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The Next-Gen iMac With Brushed Aluminum In August?

CowboyNeal posted more than 7 years ago | from the new-and-improved dept.

Desktops (Apple) 252

Alfaresy writes "As previously reported by Degadget back on June 19th, the iMac update due this summer and is expected to be available in 20- and 24-inch versions, while the 17-inch version set to be discontinued. Apple's next iMac revision is currently tracking for release in August, and will have a brushed aluminum enclosure with measure just 2-inch thick, according to ThinkSecret's sources. Furthermore, ThinkSecret's sources say, "The elegant new enclosure will somewhat resemble the current white iMac but is said to feature a shorter space below the actual display, where most of the internals are housed." The upcoming iMacs are expected to be based on Intel's Santa Rosa platform with speeds to reach the highest point at 2.4GHz."

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Cool (2, Interesting)

eneville (745111) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779327)

I can't wait to put XFCE on it :-)

Re:Cool (2, Interesting)

b1ufox (987621) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779469)

I ll prefer fluxbox to XFCE :-)

Wait... or wmii ... crap too much choices :(

Re:Cool (2, Funny)

Poltras (680608) | more than 7 years ago | (#19781141)

Wait... or wmii ... crap too much choices :(
Did you mean "too much crap choices"? /funny.

Re:Cool (1)

superbrose (1030148) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779489)

Great strategy - quenching every drop of increased processing speed from your apple. Still it looks like it won't be quite enough to make a decent cider...

Brushed alu is so 2002 (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19779331)

I want mine finished in faux-leopardskin.

Yeah! (1)

iknownuttin (1099999) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779653)

And an Elvis painted on velvet for a screen saver! Nice!

No Viral Apple Marketing On Slashdot, PLEASE!!! (2, Insightful)

pandrijeczko (588093) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779351)

It's like a moronic dwarf - it's not big and it's not clever.

Re:No Viral Apple Marketing On Slashdot, PLEASE!!! (3, Insightful)

Timesprout (579035) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779429)

This is hilarious. A tech site banging on about Apples latest and greatest and the biggest feature appears to be a different casing. Ground breaking stuff indeed. Can we also please have articles when dell start making PC's in new colours, it will really help me keep up with the latest trends in PC fashion.

Re:No Viral Apple Marketing On Slashdot, PLEASE!!! (3, Insightful)

Moby Cock (771358) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779543)

This article is silly, I concede. But the enclosures being built by Apple are particularly good. No other OEMs bother to make desktops into ergonomic or stylish designs. This work by Apple is 'ground-breaking' in a sense. Although rumour and conjecture about up-coming designs is really not worth debating.

Re:No Viral Apple Marketing On Slashdot, PLEASE!!! (-1, Flamebait)

dunkelfalke (91624) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779615)

it is about the target group, you see. other oems only make their products for heterosexual people.

Re:No Viral Apple Marketing On Slashdot, PLEASE!!! (2, Interesting)

pandrijeczko (588093) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779707)

No other OEMs bother to make desktops into ergonomic or stylish designs.

It's a *TOOL* - it performs a job, whether its wrting a document, editing pictures or playing a game. It does *NOT* need to be stylish or ergonomic, except for those insecure people who need approval and/or admiration from their peers for everything they do, and therefore need everything they own to be *NOTICED*.

Re:No Viral Apple Marketing On Slashdot, PLEASE!!! (3, Insightful)

marklar1 (670468) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779761)

You are a TOOL.

Most things in life don't NEED to be many things that they are beyond their original function. Thank god they are. Or we'd all be wearing dungarees cut to the functional specification and issued from the central distribution post...

Re:No Viral Apple Marketing On Slashdot, PLEASE!!! (5, Interesting)

marklar1 (670468) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779779)

forgive me replying too myself...but to add on, whether it's my coffee cup, my car, my clothing, the dress I want my girlfriend in and peel her out of, I want more.

That's not to say I don't buy functional tools. But if I have to stare at a computer as much as I do, I'd prefer it to be a cool tool.

Life's short, go ahead and enjoy it.

Re:No Viral Apple Marketing On Slashdot, PLEASE!!! (1, Redundant)

dissolved (887190) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780859)

This is slashdot, you're not fooling anyone with this girlfriend stuff ;-)

Re:No Viral Apple Marketing On Slashdot, PLEASE!!! (4, Insightful)

pohl (872) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779797)

Well, to be fair: one of the many functions that the device performs is that of simply being an object taking up space in one's home. In that role, aesthetics matters -- particularly among the demographic that pulls their head out of their computer every once in a while. (Because, after all, that's where the real girls are.) Lining one's nest with shiny baubles comes from deep evolutionary history, and the invention of the computer doesn't obviate it. In fact, it may have made it more essential.

Re:No Viral Apple Marketing On Slashdot, PLEASE!!! (4, Insightful)

yabos (719499) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779985)

And your house is just a place to sleep, who cares what it looks like right? Might as well be painted orange because it doesn't matter right? Who cares what your car looks like it might as well be a big box on wheels because it's just a tool to get you from A to B.

Mod parent Funny (0, Offtopic)

asCii88 (1017788) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780641)

I can really get the picture of the box car

Re:No Viral Apple Marketing On Slashdot, PLEASE!!! (2, Funny)

gb506 (738638) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780299)

Hey, pandrijeczko, we're developing a new line of ultra-low priced computers that, due to the use of low cost case material, have the shape and color of a pile of Great Dane dog shit. It appears that you fit our primary buyer profile perfectly. Can we contact you to do some in-depth consumer research? In exchange for your time we will generously compensate you with a bag of cheetos, a two liter bottle of mountain dew, and a slightly used AARP tip calculator.


But seriously, if there was a "massively moronic" mod identifier, I'd certainly use it on you.

Re:No Viral Apple Marketing On Slashdot, PLEASE!!! (1)

Poorcku (831174) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780461)

why is this a troll? acid perhaps, too acid, but not a troll. as for the tool part he is right, are u editing your documents with your casing? i never see my casing, it's under my desk and i still somehow manage to type. /and it's pretty nice too, aluminium casing 100 $ :)

Re:No Viral Apple Marketing On Slashdot, PLEASE!!! (0)

Lars T. (470328) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780537)

No other OEMs bother to make desktops into ergonomic or stylish designs.

It's a *TOOL* - It does *NOT* need to be ... ergonomic.

Errm. Whatever.

Re:No Viral Apple Marketing On Slashdot, PLEASE!!! (1)

Basehart (633304) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780765)

FWIW I just took a look through my tool box and the tool I use the most is a screwdriver. When I bought it there was a choice of colours - blue, red and yellow (and maybe an orange one). I chose the red one. Most of my other tools are made out of metal, so not many aesthetic elements to choose from there, other than maybe choose a big hunking over-engineered Molegrip as opposed to a cheaper looking Molegrip, the one you would choose :-)

Re:No Viral Apple Marketing On Slashdot, PLEASE!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19779875)

Ergonomic? My "desktop" sits under the desk and, except to turn it on, I don't touch it. Are you saying that iMacs have especially easy to use power buttons?

Re:No Viral Apple Marketing On Slashdot, PLEASE!!! (2)

gb506 (738638) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780399)

Go to an Apple store and use an iMac. Adjust the screen angle. Insert a DVD. Listen to a tune. Use the video Camera. Notice that it takes up the same amount of desk space as your monitor, or less, yet there is nothing cooking your nuts below the desk. Come back here after you're done.

Re:No Viral Apple Marketing On Slashdot, PLEASE!!! (5, Interesting)

sootman (158191) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780745)

> Although rumour and conjecture about up-coming designs is really not worth debating.

But that's just the start! By posting this dopey Mac article--or ANY Mac article--we get to debate so many other things for the Nth time! There are already integegrated-graphics-suck posts, and if-Apple-doesn't-make-X-I'm-buying-a-PC posts, and Apple's-silence-about-future-products-is-annoying posts, and so many other things that MUST be rehashed every 3 days, lest anyone forget what they think! Articles like this are a public service for the Slashdot community as a whole--let this place go a week without Apple, RIAA, or MS Security stories and it'll turn into a ghost town.

Those new Dell laptops... (1)

Aphrika (756248) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779665)

...are here [dell.com] and ironically they are in new colours. Granted, I don't see Slashdot banging on about them, but the new XPS 13" [dell.com] one looks great - HDMI output, LCD backlit screen, SSD hard drive options in a package less than 1" deep. I'd say that those technological advances Dell are shipping now are way more way more interesting than Apples brushed aluminum case rumour...

And the other thing people've gotta realise is that Intel are driving most of Apple's platform development now - as I've mentioned before, there's less ways for Apple to differentiate themselves from the PC masses now, apart from cases, OSes, and non-PC products like MP3 players and phones...

Re:Those new Dell laptops... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19780687)

in a package less than 1" deep

Except for the part at the back... what good is it if the front is thin but the back is still as thick as ever?

And it's still ugly as sin. I just don't understand why every laptop Dell markets has to be *so* ugly. Can someone please tell them that MORE colors, MORE useless design elements, and MORE textures don't make the machine look better?

Re:Those new Dell laptops... (1)

sethstorm (512897) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780753)

Nice for knockoff quality, but even the ruination that Lenovo is doing (phasing out IPS, the Reserve Edition even existing at all, keyboards of lower quality), Dell still has a very long way to go.

Re:No Viral Apple Marketing On Slashdot, PLEASE!!! (1)

mrcdeckard (810717) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780597)

you know, i think this very thing every time i see an apple article on /. -- which constitute a good 20% of them. on the other hand, apple is responsible for most of what is exciting in computing/technology right now.

mr c

A new laptop? (5, Interesting)

eebra82 (907996) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779389)

"The elegant new enclosure will somewhat resemble the current white iMac but is said to feature a shorter space below the actual display, where most of the internals are housed." The upcoming iMacs are expected to be based on Intel's Santa Rosa platform with speeds will reach the highest point at 2.4GHz."

So in other words, this is a tablet PC without the movable touch screen.

Now I am puzzled. Apple announced better gaming support at the latest WWDC, but the move to make the most common home Mac more of a laptop, indicates that high-end graphics cards are a no-no.

Re:A new laptop? (3, Insightful)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779455)

I hear the mini may be cut as well.
Is apple working on a mini-tower with desktop parts?

A mini with a real video card will be better but likely it will be a lower end laptop / low to mid-end card.
The mini needs desktop parts and a lower price. $799.00 for a system with 512mb of ram and on board video? with no mouse or keyboard? it a big rip off.

Re:A new laptop? (1)

hattig (47930) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779647)

It's $599. I know a mere 25% less than you said, when you made it 33% more expensive.

It's also very cheap for the form factor. However the form factor is quite extreme.

Apple's issue is that they need that mini-tower that you mention.

Re:A new laptop? (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780913)

That is the high end mini system the $599 should have 1gb of ram as well.

Hear, hear. Build a regular damned computer (4, Insightful)

riker1384 (735780) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780233)

I've used Apples all my life and I like Mac OS, but I'm fed up with the hardware. I'm not rich enough to spend hundreds of dollars on "style", on a Mac Mini with more expensive, less capable parts. I'm also not rich enough to just throw a monitor in the trash every time I get a new computer, buying Imacs. I just want a regular, maybe small tower with desktop parts, easily swapped RAM and maybe other parts. It should be at the same price as the Mini, but better, or equivalent to a Mini but cheaper.

Re:Hear, hear. Build a regular damned computer (2, Funny)

ben0207 (845105) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780355)

Fortunately, you're not alone in this, and that's why the G4 Cube sold so well. Oh, wait.

Re:Hear, hear. Build a regular damned computer (1)

Phroggy (441) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780985)

The G4 Cube was not a "regular computer", it was exactly the same concept as the Mac mini, except expensive.

Re:Hear, hear. Build a regular damned computer (4, Interesting)

gobbo (567674) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780613)

I'm also not rich enough to just throw a monitor in the trash every time I get a new computer, buying Imacs. I just want a regular, maybe small tower with desktop parts, easily swapped RAM and maybe other parts. It should be at the same price as the Mini, but better, or equivalent to a Mini but cheaper.

I agree with your desire for a regular microtower format, but your "throw the monitor in the trash" quip is just garbage itself. Do you really throw out a 3 year old functional Mac, or do you sell it on craigslist for 3/5 of its original sticker price?

Complainers about limited upgradeability and sticker price never seem to take the inflated used Mac market into account.

Re:A new laptop? (4, Informative)

UserChrisCanter4 (464072) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779521)

Possibly. The current 24" iMac uses an optional NVidia 7600GT MXM card (I'm not sure if the base-model 7300GT is also an MXM unit). MXM is NVidia's Portable PCI-Express video card system which is designed to be user-upgradeable. All MXM cards should fit in all MXM systems. Drivers could be an issue depending on how "universal" NVidia's OS X drivers are, and for now, the lack of EFI in the PC laptop world means that NVidia themselves or one of the old third-party Apple hardware companies would have to produce the unit. It is a step in the right direction, though. Apple did explicitly add MXM support for that iMac, and thus they have allowed for some video upgradeability in the future on 24" iMacs.

Given that even the 17" iMac will still likely offer as much if not more space than a 17" notebook, the use of an MXM module (or ATI's comparable product) in the future seems quite possible, especially when you consider that the 24" iMac didn't show up until well after the 17" and 20" models, which may have allowed Apple the extra time to go back and add some additional features..

NOT all MXM cards will fit into all MXM slots (3, Informative)

bluemonq (812827) | more than 7 years ago | (#19781159)

Not true. There are three classes of MXM cards, each with a slightly different size and power demand.

Re:NOT all MXM cards will fit into all MXM slots (1)

bluemonq (812827) | more than 7 years ago | (#19781167)

Ugh. Got cut off. To continue... If the MXM slot in the iMac doesn't provide enough space to physically fit the class 3 MXM card, clearly it's not going to work.

Re:A new laptop? (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779587)

Now I am puzzled. Apple announced better gaming support at the latest WWDC, but the move to make the most common home Mac more of a laptop, indicates that high-end graphics cards are a no-no.

Maybe the new iMacs may use the same CPU as the Santa Rosa but may not use all the same chips as the platform. Or like the current generation the base model follows the platform but others do not. In the current generation the base model uses an Intel GMA video chipset while higher end models use ATI or nVidia.

Re:A new laptop? (1)

Khyber (864651) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780035)

Did you forget about the mini pci-e slot for laptops with swappable graphics cards? HP laptops with this feature sport up to GeForce 7900 cards. Apple can just as easily use that and save space by not needing a full-sized PCI-E slot.

Sounds Decent (3, Insightful)

GizmoToy (450886) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779433)

I'm no fan of the current iMacs, but this sounds pretty interesting. The move away from the white case and the shrinking of the enclosure should be good for sales. They're putting a decent chipset in it this time at least.

Re:Sounds Decent (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19780755)

The current iMacs are ~1.5 inches.

also new from apple (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19779445)

lavender iMac with purple trim and frilly yellow lace

And the mini? (2, Insightful)

SengirV (203400) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779449)

I guess Apple doesn't want to hurt the sales of AppleTV, so they discontinue the ultimate switcher computer?

Re:And the mini? (3, Insightful)

crow (16139) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779555)

I hope the rumors of it being discontinued are false. All it needs is a switch to Core 2 and a video upgrade. I want to buy one now, but I'm not going to buy a 32-bit CPU.

Re:And the mini? (1)

phayes (202222) | more than 7 years ago | (#19781147)

Same with me. I want one but have waited for a mini with the horsepower (video & cpu) to make it worth replacing the PC I currently use for secondary tasks.

Can't they make a 12"/13" Macbook Pro instead? (4, Interesting)

ElGanzoLoco (642888) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779451)

If they could make a 12 or 13 inch Macbook Pro (or even a black Macbook with a decent graphic card) I would be the first in line. For the moment I'm sticking to my beloved 12" Powerbook. When it breaks, if Apple doesn't have a decent 12" or 13" machine, I'll have to go with a PC.

Their 15 inches MP Pros are too big for me (I travel a lot) and the Macbooks' integrated graphics are a deal-breaker for me.

I don't understand why they killed the 12" Powerbook. They sold very well.

Re:Can't they make a 12"/13" Macbook Pro instead? (1)

deke_kun (695166) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779943)

Yes! Oh god yes! Someone at apple, please! Listen to this man! I love my 12" to death, and dont go anywhere without it. Its 3 years old and still has a more powerful/useful video card than the current macbook revision! Give me a portable pro machine please!

That said, my understanding is that there was mutterings of a portable model coming along the pipeline, but it dissapeared, possibly shelved with all the iphone/appletv/leopard cafuffle. Also, afaik the 12" didnt actually sell that well, and was vastly outsold by the 15", but thats just what I am told, IANAAE.

Re:Can't they make a 12"/13" Macbook Pro instead? (0, Troll)

ir (104) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780297)

wtf are you going to do with a 12" screen? if your screen is that small, you might as well just use a cellphone instead (iphone).

Re:Can't they make a 12"/13" Macbook Pro instead? (4, Interesting)

xjerky (128399) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780411)

I completely agree with the parent poster. I love my 12 inch Pbook as well. At home I attached a monitor and USB keyboard/mouse, so that wasn't a problem. And when I was on the road (which wasnt too often), the 12 inch screen was more than enough for me. The form factor was small enough that I was able to fit it in a book bag, so I was able to be inconspicuous on the subway. When it comes to carrying around a laptop, smaller is better.

Re:Can't they make a 12"/13" Macbook Pro instead? (1)

Phroggy (441) | more than 7 years ago | (#19781229)

The MBP has a DVI port, and you can pick up a 20" LCD at 1680x1050 for $200 to plug in while you're using the laptop on your desk.

While I'm on the road, I'll gladly settle for a smaller screen if it means I get a smaller laptop. The 12" iBook I'm typing this on has a built-in full-size keyboard that I can use all 10 fingers on, which the iPhone never will. Try running SSH on your phone, and try to get any serious work done while you're sitting in a restaurant waiting for your food to arrive. This works great from my laptop (using a USB Bluetooth dongle to connect to the Internet via my cell phone, which is another thing the iPhone can't do).

Re:Can't they make a 12"/13" Macbook Pro instead? (2, Interesting)

beyonddeath (592751) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780649)

I concur whole heartedly. I have a 13" macbook, due to the form factor, however if a 12/13" macbook pro was released I would upgrade on my next payday. Price would be a non-issue, since there is no other decent system for this market, and I know its a big market, I know of personally at least 10 people that would jump at a powerful laptop in this form factor.

If they went so far as to allow my to drive two external monitors with it I would be even happier, but i guess thats dreaming :)

Re:Can't they make a 12"/13" Macbook Pro instead? (1)

rho (6063) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780853)

What's wrong with the integrated graphics of the Macbooks? I know a guy who plays WoW on his Core2 Macbook, and he gets better framerates than his (admittedly aging) PC desktop.

If you need the accelerated graphics for Aperture or something, I can see it. But I've been hammering on a 1st edition Macbook more or less since they launched, and I've been quite happy with it. I never spent a lot of time with a 12" Powerbook, but from my limited experience it is comparable WRT size and weight, except the widescreen is much appreciated. (Shoving the dock over to the right-hand side of a widescreen monitor and preventing the auto-hide makes it a lot more useful as a productivity tool.) The keyboard is a bit more comfortable, IMO, though the action isn't nearly as nice.

Re:Can't they make a 12"/13" Macbook Pro instead? (2, Insightful)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780971)

For $1500 you should get some better then a intle gma chip that uses system ram.

Re:Can't they make a 12"/13" Macbook Pro instead? (1)

Phroggy (441) | more than 7 years ago | (#19781157)

Yep, a 13" MBP is exactly what I want too.

Typing this on a 3.5-yr-old 12" iBook that I hope keeps running until Apple releases a 13" MBP.

If they made a Macbook without the glossy screen, I might settle for one; I want better graphics than that, but it'd be such an upgrade from my current machine that I could definitely live with it. Barring that, it's gotta be the 15" MBP... but that really is a lot larger than I want to haul around.

Intel Price Drops on the 22:nd (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19779463)

Intel are supposed to issue some marked price drops on the 22:nd this month.

Hm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19779471)

There is too much brushed aluminium these days. It's in my kitchen, my car, my mp3 player... and now my mac? Plz stop the madness!

Silver appliances too (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19779551)

I spent an entire weekend 2 years back looking for a black CD or DVD player... Not even local Hi-Fi specialists could get one for me (not unless I wanted to pay megabucks).

In the end I just got a portable and hooked that up to my separates. It's less of an eyesore than silver || brushed alu and the sound quality is fine for occasional use, since most all my CDs are now ripped to flac.

White was looking dated (3, Funny)

John Jamieson (890438) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779497)

The brushed Aluminum should be a good look for Apple. The old white is looking so dated, I cringe whenever I see it. It was a nice look five or so years ago, but I think it has been worn out by overuse.

(And yes, I am almost embarrased to be seen in public with my white Ipod now, so I stuck on better aftermarket headphones and keep it covered)

Re:White was looking dated (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19780343)

embarrassed by your ipod's color? you're such a woman.

Selling point (2, Interesting)

networkzombie (921324) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779509)

So, this is sold as a desktop computer that takes up less space. Why? Is a mid-tower too large for iPeople? I avoid mobile technology for my office because I don't want low power consumption, a lightweight system, or better battery life. I want upgradeability and speed. So is the benefit of this system simply to save space, have fewer wires, and look sleek? Even the mini-Mac is a mobile chipset. Are the Micro LGA 775 boards just too damn big for designing a Mac around? If I want a Centrino system, it'll be my laptop or a tablet. Am I totally off on this or do I upgrade my systems too often?

Re:Selling point (2, Insightful)

morari (1080535) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779659)

I want upgradeability and speed.
I don't think upgrading was ever a big priority for iPeople...

Re:Selling point (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780997)

Even if you are not in to upgrading people don't like build in screens.

Apple does not have a head less system with good video or desktop parts. They are a over priced mini with laptop parts and high prices + a high server / workstation with FB-DIMMS.

Re:Selling point (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19779905)

I want upgradeability and speed. ... Am I totally off on this or do I upgrade my systems too often?

I hate to tell you this, but you're not the average user; the average user never upgrades, they just buy a new computer. Neither the Mac Mini nor the iMac is targeted at you; you want a Mac Pro.

Re:Selling point (1)

xjerky (128399) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780445)

I'll agree with this, up until the Mac Pro part. Just because you want an upgradable computer, that doesnt mean that you want to pay top dollar for the fastest machine on the market (note that I realize that the Mac Pro isnt overpriced - just that much of it is wasted on the non-power-user).

Because they're not in that market (2, Insightful)

itsdapead (734413) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780895)

So, this is sold as a desktop computer that takes up less space. Why?

Current market for "desktop tower" systems:

  1. Cheap entry-level home PCs
  2. Commodity business PCs
  3. Gamers
  4. Serious Workstations

In markets (1) and (2) they're up against negligible margin $300 boxes from Dell; (2) and (3) are Windows strangleholds not well served by OSX software; the Mac Pro and 17" MacBook have (4) covered.

Apple's forte is laptops and small-form-factor PCs which can demand a "premium" price & they're sticking to it. Its hard to make a midi-tower sexy.

Avoid solipsism here - just because lots of /.ers - including myself - would have liked a cheaper single-processor "tower" Mac doesn't mean there's a viable market. Plus, many of those people might relent and (like me) buy a Pro. (My main gripe with the pro is whether it was really necessary to use the most expensive memory technology in the known universe).

Sleep Light? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19779513)

The current white iMacs have that elegant embedded sleep light that glows through the casing when on but otherwise is invisible.

Switching to aluminum can only mean one thing - Apple has invented transparent aluminum!

Re:Sleep Light? (3, Interesting)

cowscows (103644) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779975)

That'd be neat, but in truth, the current alum macbook pros have a built in camera in the frame above the screen, and when the camera is on, a green light comes out of the frame, basically out of nowhere. Literally, you cannot tell that there's something there unless the light is on. I'm not sure exactly how it works, but it's very cool.

Re:Sleep Light? (2, Interesting)

Darvin (878219) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780217)

I believe it's done by using incredibly small holes dotted in a circular pattern embedded in the aluminium, so when the light is switched off, is practically invisible without looking incredibly close to the surface.

Although, the thought of apple inventing transpraluminium is nice.

While we're rumourmongering, what about the mini? (4, Interesting)

hcdejong (561314) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779537)

The Mac mini hasn't seen an update for a while, and the rumours have been mostly negative (discontinuation of the line). I want one, and Apple's strategy of not talking about future products (or lack thereof) is annoying.

Re:While we're rumourmongering, what about the min (1)

xjerky (128399) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780475)

I think it would be a real shame if the mini was discontinued. I love mine, and it satisified my requirements nicely, I wanted a whisper quiet, low power consuming machine that also had a tiny form factor. My electric bill went down $20/month when I switched to it. I even hooked up an amp meter to it and found that under normal usage it only takes up 20-30 Watts - very impressive. I just wish it were a Core 2 Duo and the graphics chipset were a bit better.

I just bought a 55-inch HDTV, and my mini is going to go into DVR duty with my USB2 HDTV receiver. Its lack of noise and built-in remote makes it perfect for the living room.

Re:While we're rumourmongering, what about the min (1)

MMC Monster (602931) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780707)

Tell me about it. I just convinced my dad to upgrade his 70 inch standard def TV (from ~17 years ago) to a 1080p device. He wanted to get an AppleTV, but didn't realize that it wasn't a full computer, and that what he really wanted was a Mac Mini.

If the Mac Mini really gets phased out, I'll have to decide between a full-sized computer hidden behind the TV or one of those pre-made MythTV set-up boxes (which wouldn't be a big deal, except that I would likely have to troubleshoot the system occasionally).

Re:While we're rumourmongering, what about the min (1)

xjerky (128399) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780751)

Well, as I'm sure you know, the AppleTV can only do 720p anyway, while the Mini can.

Another great thing about the Intel Mini is that if you aren't happy with OS X, you can always boot linux and run MythTV off of that - the mini uses well-supported-by-Linux parts.

You know what? You're right. (1)

attemptedgoalie (634133) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780935)


I bought a mini when it first came out, and am using it now to type this reply.

My power bill is only $16 a month, and falling. It does everything I need for normal usage. Once in a while I play some games, and I have my old supercomputer for that. But it's 750W, this one's 30W. So it gets used 95% of the time.

Apple should give us another cube (4, Interesting)

Tomasset (26814) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779553)

Yes. A cube. Please give us a modern cube, or xMac or whatever you want to call it, but something fitting the gap between the (dying) Mac Mini and the massive Mac Pro. We have been crying for that mythical xMac for ages now, so it is time that Apple Inc (gone is the Computer). devotes some resources to that!

I mean, I would be even happy with the iMac hardware without the screen so they can reuse the same iMac and Mac Book Pro designs in three form factors, it is simply that I want to use an external monitor!!

Re:Apple should give us another cube (2, Informative)

mevets (322601) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779641)

All the iMacs have video out, even the originals. You can sit it on your desk screen down :)

Re:Apple should give us another cube (1)

aedan (196243) | more than 7 years ago | (#19781215)

The tray loading G3 iMacs didn't have video out unless you opened the case and disconnected the monitor. Slot loading G3s had a video port behind a panel on the back.

Time for something new. (2, Insightful)

MaWeiTao (908546) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779617)

will have a brushed aluminum enclosure with measure just 2-inch thick


The current iMac already has an enclosure 2 inches thick. And most of the internals aren't housed near the bottom of the current iMac, they're spread out all over the unit behind the display. So it's not like the new iMac is going to be this huge leap of packaging over the current model.

Regarding the brushed-metal look, although I'm sure it will look nice I think it's starting to get a bit old. I can't say I like Apple going back and forth between two design styles they've been using for quite some time now. For me personally both styles are getting a bit tired. I realize they want to maintain a brand identity but I'd prefer they choose one of the styles and evolve that look as opposed to going back and forth between the two. I'll reserve judgement until I see the design but I will be disappointed if the new iMac ends up looking exactly like an Apple display or the Mac Pro.

Re:Time for something new. (1)

thanatos_x (1086171) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779869)

Personally I like the black brushed aluminum quite a lot, at least on the nano. I don't think the brushed metal look would work well with the iMac... Apples have looked new and clean for a while. I'd say doing something similar to Sony's Vaio/iMac-esq computer would be a good change. Incorporate some clear areas on the computer, and make it look clean and futuristic, not just new/different. Also more than one color/material could do wonders. Of course I've got a beige box next to me, so...

Re:Time for something new. (5, Insightful)

Phroggy (441) | more than 7 years ago | (#19781275)

make it look clean and futuristic
Have you noticed that when the future actually arrives, what used to be futuristic looks always suddenly just look retarded?

How About a Nice Dark, Useful Color? (1)

beadfulthings (975812) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779961)

I honestly love my iMac. I didn't think I was going to, and it's the first Mac I've owned that wasn't near the top-of-the-line. But it's done everything I want and need it to do, and it's done it well.

The problem? It's always grimy-looking. I don't think I'm dirtier than the average person; things around here get dusted and vacuumed with reasonable regularity. I also wash my hands a reasonable number of times during the day. But this white case is always a nightmare of filthitude, and the keyboard always looks a bit scabrous. It's not like the old beige cases that you could swipe at occasionally with 409. And I'm never sure of what to use on the screen.

The previous Mac, a G4, was the same way--the translucent plastic became dingy pretty quickly and stayed that way for the four years I used it.

Maybe not black. But computers are magnets for dust by virtue of what's inside them and how they function. Something that can be kept clean with the swipe of a static-free cloth would be most welcome. I'm not sure brushed aluminum is it.

Oh, and the wireless mouse is abysmal. The wee little trackball is a sink for finger-cruft.

17 inch discontinued? (3, Insightful)

theurge14 (820596) | more than 7 years ago | (#19779965)

Why? The 17 was the only way I could afford one at the time I bought mine last November. If they discontinue the 17 and stick to the 20 and 24, what is going to happen to the "gateway" Mac for switchers like me? Considering the way the Mac Minis have grown in price since their introduction and now rumors of them being discontinued, I have to wonder if the iPod/iPhone "halo" is even going to matter. C'mon, say it ain't so Apple, don't screw up the momentum you have.

Re:17 inch discontinued? (1)

ddocjohn (1019028) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780277)

"what is going to happen to the "gateway" Mac for switchers like me?" You could buy the 20 inch model which will cost the same as the old 17 maybe?

Re:17 inch discontinued? (1)

Lars T. (470328) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780673)

Why? The 17 was the only way I could afford one at the time I bought mine last November. If they discontinue the 17 and stick to the 20 and 24, what is going to happen to the "gateway" Mac for switchers like me?
LCDs have come down in price so much, a 20" costs little more than a 17" now.

Re:17 inch discontinued? (1)

amyhughes (569088) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780723)

Offering fewer models saves money; perhaps enough to price the 20" the same as the old 17".

Current line price drop??? / Leopard (1)

r.c. morris (1125007) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780041)

Do you foresee a drop in the current line pricing prior or during the release of the new Imac's? With both the pending releases of the new Imac line and Leopard in October you think this would be the case? Will Leopard be offered as a free upgrade in the new line before October?

Reduced space below screen? (2, Funny)

RealGrouchy (943109) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780121)

"The elegant new enclosure will somewhat resemble the current white iMac but is said to feature a shorter space below the actual display, where most of the internals are housed."
But... where will I post my stickies?

- RG>

Re:Reduced space below screen? (1)

Maserati (8679) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780279)

Easy, in /Applications/Stickies.app. There's the most useful program Apple has ever published, and I'm counting Keynote, FileMaker (compared to Access) and Final Cut.

Why link to Degadget? (5, Informative)

1u3hr (530656) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780159)

Why is this story linked to Degadget, a "site" stuffed full of Google ads, which just repeats the story from ThinkSecret [thinksecret.com] , which doesn't even get a link?

By doing so Slashdot rewards these parasites with millions of hits, earning them a tidy sum for their plaigiarism. ThinkSecret has ads too, but they dig up their stories, not just copy and paste them from other sites.

USB port on front (2, Interesting)

pauljlucas (529435) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780449)

I hope they add (or move) at least one USB port to the front of the computer. It's annoying to have to fumble your way trying to insert a USB flash drive into one of the USB ports on the back that you can't see.

Re:USB port on front (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19780899)

what about the extra USB you have on the keyboard? there are two, one for the mice, another for those things

Re:USB port on front (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 7 years ago | (#19781093)

It does not have the power to run a flash drive and mouse at the same time

Re:no need for USB port on front (1)

Psykechan (255694) | more than 7 years ago | (#19781217)

This shouldn't be an issue if you're doing things the "correct" way according to Apple. The keyboard should have a USB hub built-in and include two ports. One USB port is to be used by the mouse and the other is free for temporary USB usage such as flash drives.

I believe this has been the case since back when USB was made standard on the original gumdrop iMacs.

Mac users (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19780591)

Mac users are idiots. They have nothing to do with IT so STFU.

Re:Mac users (1)

xeniast (575383) | more than 7 years ago | (#19780783)

Got Root ?

My only thinking is... (1)

Ranzear (1082021) | more than 7 years ago | (#19781057)

Hoshi- Brushed Aluminum man? That totally makes up for the fact its a mac!

Oh good... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#19781071)

2.4ghz.. So it's top speed is as fast as a PC, circa 2002.

ThinkSecret's had a lousy track record (4, Informative)

LyingForTheGreaterGo (990397) | more than 7 years ago | (#19781145)

Unfortunately, ThinkSecret's reputation has taken quite a beating. Most recently they came out with a prediction a month or so agou about an alleged next-day release of hardware. When the prediction failed to come to pass, TS silently deleted the prediction -- rather bad form for the rumor site. This latest 'update' from TS is merely more of the same. Aluminum or black iMac ... coming soon. They keep changing the release date when the last one doesn't come to pass. And it doesn't take someone with inside information to realize that Apple hasn't come out with an iMac refresh in more than 300 days and that one is therefore going to be out by the new school term.

I really hope... (1)

stubear (130454) | more than 7 years ago | (#19781263)

...they fired the dumbass who thought placing the speakers on the bottom, facing down?!?!?, of the enclosure was a good idea.
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