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Google to Acquire Postini

CmdrTaco posted about 7 years ago | from the must-be-a-monday dept.

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Dynamoo writes "Google has announced that it is to acquire Postini, company best known for its corporate spam filtering and security service, but also active in Instant Messaging and compliance area. The deal is to purchase Postini for $625m in cash. The acquisition is slated to enhance Google's application portfolio, and Google will also acquire several very large Blue Chip customers that have previously eluded it."

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what does Google want with a male stripper? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19800167)

I'm really surprised that Google has decided to buy out a male stripper. Male thongs have been losing value by the day lately.

Then again.. It's Google. They must be up to something.

Re:what does Google want with a male stripper? (1)

hey! (33014) | about 7 years ago | (#19800295)

You've got that wrong. They're acquiring a truly nasty coffee substitute made from burned wheat flour and molasses. Obviously, they're afraid of their geeks getting coffee nerves [] .

Re:what does Google want with a male stripper? (2, Interesting)

MindKata (957167) | about 7 years ago | (#19801125)

I wish it was just nasty coffee. Google owning a company that handles things like email "information security" is like a wolf owning a Chicken Farm. So I guess that means the emails etc.. will be secure (provided you don't mind Google also taking a look as well).

So Google takes one more step along the road from "Do No Harm" to "1984 Big Brother"

Italian or gay? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19800223)

If Postini is not an Italian company, then that is the gayest name ever.

Re:Italian or gay? (1)

enjerth (892959) | about 7 years ago | (#19800989)

At first, I was thinking it was some type of pasta.

Coming soon: Google Airlines (3, Funny)

LibertineR (591918) | about 7 years ago | (#19800239)

Hey! It could happen!

No lines, no waiting, free food and drinks, but the windows are replaced with screens showing advertisements 100% of the time.

Re:Coming soon: Google Airlines (1)

SolusSD (680489) | about 7 years ago | (#19800321)

shh!! dont *give* google these ideas!! they come up w/ them on their own fast enough! At least charge a consulting fee!

Re:Coming soon: Google Airlines (1)

hey! (33014) | about 7 years ago | (#19800355)

Nope. The next step is Google Enhanced Reality. You strap on goggles that make everything so much more convenient and simple, but you get ads floating in your peripheral vision like a bashful maiden.

Re:Coming soon: Google Airlines (2, Informative)

iago-vL (760581) | about 7 years ago | (#19800783)

I believe you mean "strap on the googles".

Dear hey!: that wasn't funny or original (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19800937)

Recycling 70s sci-fi ideas and plastering Google on them does not make for an interesting, informative or funny post.

Please try harder.

Re:Dear hey!: that wasn't funny or original (1)

hey! (33014) | about 7 years ago | (#19801303)

Actually, enhanced reality is considerably more interesting than virtual reality.

Example: the copy machine is jammed. The goggles give you a kind of x-ray vision showing exactly where the jam is, and a line drawing superimposed on the copier animates the next step in removing the jam.

Example: Take the cell phone company idea of location based services, but instead of sticking it on the phone, overlay the information on the user's perception.

If you imagine a generalized service of this sort, Google is better positioned than anybody with its technological infrastructure. Not that I think that's what they are doing.

Microsoft better positioned for enhanced reality? (1)

tjstork (137384) | about 7 years ago | (#19802537)

I would lean towards saying that Microsoft might be better positioned to do that kind of reality, because they have better relationships with all of the hardware vendors. I could see them building something into Windows that has a standard way of obtaining .x files from attached devices on the network, indicating various repair states and problems, and Microsoft would then work with other hardware vendors to come up with a closed spec for making the goggles and wireless actually work.

Re:Dear hey!: that wasn't funny or original (1)

CrazedWalrus (901897) | about 7 years ago | (#19803029)

We truly are becoming The Borg. Just add in RFID implants, cell phones in our teeth, a laser range-finder/scanner, and an exoskeleton [] , and the transformation will be complete. It's all current or near-future tech.

By the way, I think this is called augmented reality [] .

Re: Google Enhanced Reality, Sinicized. (1)

sethstorm (512897) | about 7 years ago | (#19802405)

It also informs the Chinese government of the exact location of those who search for forbidden terms/subjects or put them on blogs- then it provides options on how to best allocate resources to "plug the leak".

Re:Coming soon: Google Airlines (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19800457)

Google: We're not evil. Resistance is futile.

Re:Coming soon: Google Airlines (1)

amias (105819) | about 7 years ago | (#19802311)


Re:Coming soon: Google Airlines (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19800699)

and depending on who's looking there will be a different ad.
this, of course, required you to have a special cookie-chip implanted which is free with the first visit.

Re:Coming soon: Google Airlines (2, Interesting)

darkmeridian (119044) | about 7 years ago | (#19800795)

Google would run an airline if doing so would give its computers access to all of the mail and data emanating from random users. Postini software screens the e-mails received by thousands upon thousands of employees of huge corporate entities. Depending on the licensing agreement Postini has in place with its customers, Google may be acquiring a huge database of mail to run its search algorithms through.

Re:Coming soon: Google Airlines (1)

kypper (446750) | about 7 years ago | (#19801457)

That's actually a fantastic idea.

With the introduction of RyanAir [] and EasyJet [] in Europe, air travel has taken off, forcing the standard companies such as British Airways to drop their prices and offer more affordable travel. A passenger on there one said to me, "I travel home to Rome once a month because it's cheaper than driving there."

My point being, nothing here in North America comes close; we are desperately in need of a discount airline that provides affordable travel. Google could leverage this need with their advertising model to produce something pretty damned reasonable, and they ARE the types to do something that radical.

Re:Coming soon: Google Airlines (1)

LibertineR (591918) | about 7 years ago | (#19801557)

I know. I wasnt kidding. This is the future.

Re:Coming soon: Google Airlines (1)

Overzeetop (214511) | about 7 years ago | (#19801711)

Yeah, but the distances are short. I can get a $145 round trip ticket from NY to Ft. Lauderdale, FL, which is nearly 200km further. I don't know how much that fare is to Rome, but $77 each way for 1700km is cheaper than the price of gas here in the US for an efficient sedan.

Re:Coming soon: Google Airlines (1)

j79zlr (930600) | about 7 years ago | (#19802099)

I was thinking the same thing, you can pretty much fly anywhere in the continental 48 for less than $200 with an advanced purchase of a month or more.

Re:Coming soon: Google Airlines (1)

PPCzee (1125797) | about 7 years ago | (#19801703)

Enhanced reality....and interesting concept for the world of SEO and PPC....

Re:Coming soon: Google Airlines (1)

mgblst (80109) | about 7 years ago | (#19801763)

Did you know that the windows are actually the weakest part of the airplane, so this wouldn't be such a bad idea. As long as you can still pull the curtains across, of course.

Re:Coming soon: Google Airlines (4, Funny)

MalHavoc (590724) | about 7 years ago | (#19801765)

And when you buy your ticket, you can click "I'm feeling lucky" and end up in the middle of nowhere. Awesome!

Re:Coming soon: Google Airlines (1)

rand0mbits (1085639) | about 7 years ago | (#19802995)

After flying American Airlines recently, I wouldn't mind your scenario at all.

Additional commentary (1)

babooo404 (1019760) | about 7 years ago | (#19800293)

There is some additional commentary [] on the deal on Centernetworks.

OT but yikes (1)

jshriverWVU (810740) | about 7 years ago | (#19800335)

Mark me as OT, but damn. I really wish I could make a startup and sell it to google for $1million let alone the $500M+ these smaller companies seem to be getting.

Re:OT but yikes (1)

hey (83763) | about 7 years ago | (#19800345)

I agree, that seems like waaaay to much for a spam filter.

Re:OT but yikes (2, Informative)

jshriverWVU (810740) | about 7 years ago | (#19800463)

Especially when they have their own wonderful top of the line spam filters. The first year I used gmail I never received a single spam. Then I started using my email more publically and after a couple years I might get 2-3 a day but they end up in my spam folder. In the past couple years I can say probably less than 20 spam emails have made it into my inbox. So not sure why they would want to buy this, unless it was to keep competition low. While I like google, and hope this isn't the case, I dont see any other reason.

Re:OT but yikes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19801139)

I seem to recall that Postini did spam filtering for Google. At least, that's what their sales rep told me. Glad I never bought it, though.

Re:OT but yikes (1)

tommertron (640180) | about 7 years ago | (#19801723)

I was stupid enough to provide my gmail address as a mailto: link in a Slashdot submission that got accepted. I now get about 200 spam messages a day in my inbox. Luckily, there seem to be few false positives, and probably only about 0.5% slips through to my inbox. It seems to learn really well.

Re:OT but yikes (1)

rumith (983060) | about 7 years ago | (#19800385)

Why, making a startup and earning the said $1million by yourself is no longer an option? Just curious.

Re:OT but yikes (1)

MontyApollo (849862) | about 7 years ago | (#19800529)

You get a quicker payoff if someone buys you out. For a million dollar buyout, the company might only be making profits of $200K/year or so.

I think there is also the perception of Google buying companies to add to their portfolio, not necessarily ones that generate a good profit. I think there might be some hope that you could come up with an interesting idea, not necessarily a very profitable one, and Google would buy you out for the cool factor alone.

Postini's been around a while (2, Informative)

winkydink (650484) | about 7 years ago | (#19800439)

They have a large customer base and I am told that they were preparing to go public. So this isn't 2 guys in a garage, more like 300 people or so.

Re:Postini's been around a while (2, Funny)

Qzukk (229616) | about 7 years ago | (#19800493)

So this isn't 2 guys in a garage, more like 300 people or so.
Must be a large garage

Re:OT but yikes (2, Informative)

SatanicPuppy (611928) | about 7 years ago | (#19801607)

Well they're 8 years old and they passed 10 million users and a billion messages a day last year, so they're a bit more than a startup.

Re:OT but yikes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19801993)

Postini is far from a startup. Most who haven't heard of them have never been in the market for Enterprise spam and virus solutions. Their smaller customers are invoiced $4K to $6K annually for their services.

Name change for Postini (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19800349)

Postini is not a word that's easily googleized. Best I can come up with is Googlini.

Re:Name change for Postini (1)

Dekortage (697532) | about 7 years ago | (#19800597)


Yeah, it has a better sound to it than some of the alternatives. Anybody wanna Poogle?

Re:Name change for Postini (1)

vigmeister (1112659) | about 7 years ago | (#19801091)

How about Postle? Usage:"I have a Postle running on my email account to filter out all my spam except for unobtrusive,targeted ones specifically catering to my internet usage".


Re:Name change for Postini (1)

mrbooze (49713) | about 7 years ago | (#19802383)

The vessle with the Postle holds the brew that is true!

Re:Name change for Postini (1)

Hanners1979 (959741) | about 7 years ago | (#19801895)

Anybody wanna Poogle?

Maybe when I'm done with my Wii.

Re:Name change for Postini (1)

ZaSz-RH (923115) | about 7 years ago | (#19801207)

Sounds like a pokemon :/

Re:Name change for Postini (1)

Big_Monkey_Bird (620459) | about 7 years ago | (#19802531)

I think it's what the Jawas yell it out several times in Star Wars. "Postini!"

In cash? (2, Funny)

krazo (220290) | about 7 years ago | (#19800403)

Google will acquire Postini for $625 million in cash

Mr. Postini: You have the briefcase, Page?

Brin pulls an uzi from under his jacket.

Page: Just sign the papers, Postini.

Re:In cash? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19800935)

hehehehe good one !

Hmm... (3, Insightful)

js290 (697670) | about 7 years ago | (#19800411)

The institution I work has been using Postini for almost a year now. It works pretty well. But, I've also used DSPAM and Spamassassin, and Postini is definitely not $625M better than either of those two.

Re:Hmm... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19800689)

So that's your thinking? You won't buy a $30,000 car because it's not $30,000 better than the $29,000 car? Do you ever buy *anything*?

Re:Hmm... (1)

bjourne (1034822) | about 7 years ago | (#19800737)

They don't buy it because it is superior technology. They pay for the customers. Aquiring thousands of customers to which you can sell a product you didn't even have to develop yourself is worth a lot. They are probably also trying to cultivate those customer relationships. Maybe some of those that wants a Google Postini might also want a Google Search or a Google Office?

Re:Hmm... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19800741)

"Postini is definitely not $625M better than either of those two."

Yes, it is. Imagine if you ran spamassassin, and DSPAM on a few hundred million messages a day, and had a dedicated staff specificly to deal with spam. thats basicly what postini does.

I bought ten grand worth of CPU to do our spam filtering a few years ago, with exactly the setup you describe. I ended up taking a free trial of postini, and never looked back or regretted the $1300/month payments. not even a little.

Aside from filtering with a higher accuracy rate than i could ever DREAM OF on my own, i was able to reduce my existing mailservers load by about 40% simply due to the MX based filtering. The crap, especially viruses, never even get to my servers to clutter.

Believe me, i fought the good fight with my business partner. Im a geek too. but the plain facts are that unless you have a lot of time to dedicate to the task, you just cant "keep up" as well as a dedicated company can. Check your stats a little closer. Check your mailserver load a little closer. And add up all the hours you /dont/ have to spend building and maintaining all that spamassassin CPU.

Re:Hmm... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19802543)

Not only do they off load your spam filtering, they are your highest priority MX servers. If your mail servers go down, Postini will cache it until you pick it up and makes it easier to redirect your mail to an emergency mail like MessageOne if your sites are down. As much as we would all like to believe we can maintain our mail servers and network connectivity at our own sites, having a business dedicated to this function that has many mail servers and multiple backbones to get your mail sense for most companies.

Re:Hmm... (1)

smchris (464899) | about 7 years ago | (#19801439)

The institution I work has been using Postini for almost a year now. It works pretty well. But, I've also used DSPAM and Spamassassin, and Postini is definitely not $625M better than either of those two.

I'm guessing you're the one who's right. Results talk. The local ISP I use has been pretty sharp and customer-responsive. They just completed their move AWAY from Postini (I could almost say the other "day" for amusing timing) after several years to a product they believe will be more flexible and responsive.

Re:Hmm... (1)

*weasel (174362) | about 7 years ago | (#19801477)

Yes but DSPAM and Spamassassin don't fit perfectly into Google's plan to co-opt small to mid-size corporate email.

As a spam-filtering go-between, Google gets right back to their earlier push to get corporate users using for-pay gmail. But now it's a value-added service and doesn't require that you give up exchange (initially).

When the rest of the google apps catch up, it'll be that much easier to pitch a cut-over.
I'd imagine the next step would be more application-glue to integrate exchange calendars and public folders with google apps.

Re:Hmm... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19801847)

Yeah but you don't value a business on how well it's tech works. You value a business on business factors, like customer base, cash on hand, assets, sales pipeline and a hundred other things. The quality of the product is important but once you said "it works pretty well" you basically said from a company valuation standpoint that it's acceptable. Unless one of these others is tearing up the market and making customers switch products the relative quality of the competitors is almost inconsequential to the value of a given company.

Re:Hmm... (1)

Penguin Programmer (241752) | about 7 years ago | (#19802483)

But it's $625M more enterprisey!

Re:Hmm... (1)

C_Kode (102755) | about 7 years ago | (#19803217)

Umm. Postini != DSPAM + Spamassassin.

Postini is a fully managed service. DSPAM and Spamassassin is not.

I have used Spamassassin and Postini (not DSPAM) Postini is a cakewalk, Spamassassin while good, is not. Postini offers many things that DSPAN and Spamassassin does not. Like email spooling among other things. I think the best part of Postini is that I don't have to manage the hardware and software. I create Postini accounts and thats about it.

Also, I do not allow any connections originating from the outside to connect to our Exchange servers except Postini's. That alone to me is worth the price by itself. Top it off with virus and spam filtering and I'm happy. I have almost zero management concerning virus and spam filtering.

Google buys (4, Insightful)

symes (835608) | about 7 years ago | (#19800441)

Googling "google buys" provides a pretty rich and varied list of Google's acquisitions: YouTube, Grand Central, Feedburner, Measure Map... and on and on and on. There's even rumours in some parts that a tie up between Google and Apple might be on the cards. Sorry, but it's getting to the point where "Google buys" stories just aren't informative anymore.

Re:Google buys (1)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | about 7 years ago | (#19801027)

Sorry, but it's getting to the point where "Google buys" stories just aren't informative anymore.

Just you wait until they launch their gBuy service...

Re:Google buys (1)

shaggy43 (21472) | about 7 years ago | (#19801117)

Unfortunately, they are to some people....

I read this, and IM'ed one of my friends who works for Postini, and they found out about the deal from me. :(

Re:Google buys (1)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | about 7 years ago | (#19801195)

Yeah, I mean, it's not like Postini is touting the buyout on the front page of their website [] or anything...

Re:Google buys (1)

shaggy43 (21472) | about 7 years ago | (#19801605)

Do you wake up and immediately check your company's web site every morning for news of a takeover or merger? Or do you assume there will be an internal, all-hands type of meeting to tel you *before* your friends find out?

If your answer is the first one, you either haven't worked yet, or need to go find a better job, fast.

Re:Google buys (1)

shawngarringer (906569) | about 7 years ago | (#19801849)

No, I have alerts programmed on Google News to alert me to when the name of my company is in a news story. So far I've known several days in advance to all the major things our company has done compared to when the rest of the employees are notified.

Re:Google buys (1)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | about 7 years ago | (#19801893)

I would assume that I'd receive some sort of internal notification. However, I've also worked with a bunch of people who trash most internal messages without reading them first. I've witnessed co-workers being surprised to find out some big new days after everyone else who bothered to read their email did. I'm not saying that's what happened to your friend, but it does happen...

Re:Google buys (1)

3mpire (953036) | about 7 years ago | (#19801245)

So when do the "they can't innovate so they just buy their way into new markets" comments start?

Re:Google buys (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19801647)

wtf? "just aren't informative anymore"? If every few months Google purchased one of the world's 196 countries, you wouldn't want to know about it after the first couple of dozen??

Re:Google buys (1)

Night Goat (18437) | about 7 years ago | (#19801869)

It's still informative, just not interesting. I was informed by reading this article that Google bought Postini, but I don't care anymore.

Re:Google buys (1)

kripkenstein (913150) | about 7 years ago | (#19802733)

Sorry, but it's getting to the point where "Google buys" stories just aren't informative anymore.
You are correct in general, but wrong about this particular case.

Google Apps is Google's attempt to make money from Corporate America, selling software-as-a-service. Were this ever to work, it might be a very lucrative venture, and finally wean Google off of their single money-making business (ads). It would also mean that Google is competing directly with Microsoft in Microsoft's home turf. So, the reason why this purchase is interesting is because Postini is described by Google as a way to achieve that goal. Aside from anti-spam, Postini offer services to large corporations that need to comply with various regulatory practices, which Google Apps currently doesn't offer.

Google reports 'thousands' of small businesses using Google Apps, but apparently very few if any large ones (where the big money is). Perhaps Postini is their way to reach that market; time will tell.

Sometimes (2, Interesting)

Jaaay (1124197) | about 7 years ago | (#19800487)

I wonder if big companies awash with cash wouldn't be better off doing stuff themselves instead of paying ridiculous premiums. The other interesting thing is how profitable this company is and if google would've earned more buying 625 million $ of government bonds than whatever they'll make during the next few years of this.

But this isn't always the case, I remember reading "you idiots" comments after news ltd bought myspace for 300(?) million and then reading a few months later how google was paying 800(?) million for their search box and other stuff to go on myspace, that was truly mind-boggling.

It's like they feel the need to spend cash if it makes sense or not sometimes.

Re:Sometimes (1)

mveloso (325617) | about 7 years ago | (#19801367)

Google is paying for the customer base, not the tech. Getting customers is the hard part, not the engineering.

fp bit3h (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19800507)

paranoid conspiracy Hal7. Eve8 Emacs

In cash!? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19800511)

Does "in cash" really mean what I think it means? (Posting as AC, as I am too embarassed to admit I don't get this language as much as I thought I did)

Re:In cash!? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19800643)

I assume it just means "as an outright sum, with real money" as opposed to "partly with money, partly with $X shares in Google, partly with $Y shares in other stuff owned by Google, partly with...."

I don't necessarily understand it either, but that's how I've always interpreted it.

Re:In cash!? (1)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | about 7 years ago | (#19800645)

Does "in cash" really mean what I think it means? (Posting as AC, as I am too embarassed to admit I don't get this language as much as I thought I did)

No, it doesn't mean that they'll show up with a suitcase (or truck) full of bills. It simply means that the purchase will happen with currency of some sort (likely bank transfers and such), rather than paying for it with Google stock (the value of which fluctuates--well, it fluctuates moreso than hard currency).

Re:In cash!? (1)

x_MeRLiN_x (935994) | about 7 years ago | (#19800693)

It doesn't mean cash as in coins or notes; a cheque or bank transfer is very easily converted to cash in comparison to paying with shares. Google bought YouTube for $1.65bn in shares for example.

Re:In cash!? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19801857)

Thanks for clearing that up, people.

- Parent Coward.

Oh, well... (1)

mrcgran (1002503) | about 7 years ago | (#19800515)

"The acquisition is slated to enhance Google's application portfolio,"

... hope they do not become another Jotspot and vanish into thin air.

Good News (3, Interesting)

Rydian (29123) | about 7 years ago | (#19800583)

We've been using Postini for the past few years, and have had great results with it. I just hope the Google interface design team does some work with Postini. Not that the Postini interface is horrible, but it could use more of the polish that Google brings to their apps.

Re:Good News (1)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | about 7 years ago | (#19800669)

Not that the Postini interface is horrible, but it could use more of the polish that Google brings to their apps.

I wasn't aware that Google outsourced their interface design to Poland...

What Google Mail *REALLY* needs... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19800987) a way to *easily* download copies of your emails from your gmail inbox onto your local hard drive, and do it from the web interface with simple point and click. Their POP interface doesn't count.

Doesn't make any sense (-1, Flamebait)

Adult film producer (866485) | about 7 years ago | (#19800661)

the company is not worth $625 million, so I'll go out on a limb here and suggest this is just a way to launder CIA money. The CEO(s) of this company are probably linked to CIA much like George Bush Sr was, they hide their subterfuge of democracy by engaging in what looks to be legitimate businesses (with george bush sr. it was oil drilling in the caribbean.) google execs are deeply involved with the CIA and NSA, these guys are all cut from the same cloth, it's a fraternity... like skull & bones (both George Bush sr. & jr. are members of) members masturbating each other in coffins in a room lit by black candles, just weird shit. But here they are again.. trading companies back and forth to one another like chips on a poker table, in the end democracy loses and you the taxpayer get screwed. learn the truth about the JFK assassination and you will find the money trail leads to Bush and Google.

Re:Doesn't make any sense (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19800809)

Actually Postini probably are worth that amount, easily. They own extensive IP and have a lot more than just spam filtering in their portfolio. They have also been profitable for the last few years, something which their competitors can't claim, most of which operate in the red continually. They are just about the biggest mail filtering company in the world and google were about to impliment them on all their mail services anyway. By all accounts Microsoft were sniffing round them a couple of years ago but the owners told them to get stuffed, so MS just went and bought a smaller competitor.

Re:Doesn't make any sense (1)

ezekieldas (315741) | about 7 years ago | (#19801297)

Sir, just mind your own business please. Carry on.

Google to acquire Jet Ski maker (1)

140Mandak262Jamuna (970587) | about 7 years ago | (#19800675)

It is hoped that the speed of the jet ski will help it jump the shark really well.

Damn Microsoft (5, Insightful)

MyLongNickName (822545) | about 7 years ago | (#19800679)

Always buying companies instead of innovating.

Oops (2, Insightful)

MyLongNickName (822545) | about 7 years ago | (#19800711)

It is Google. Nevermind. This is the greatest news of the week! Yea, Google!

Google has the potential for evil. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19800717)

Yes, they say they aren't but let's consider the list of the ever-growing stuff they control.

*Website Index that they will restrict depending on your border.

*Email, both Gmail and now filtering (which if they have postini can strip marketing data)

*Image search that is also filtered by

*Metrics and marketing data available to anyone with a search warrant.

We use Postini and it is GOOD. (2, Informative)

IGnatius T Foobar (4328) | about 7 years ago | (#19800837)

We use Postini here and it's really really good. It reliably filters out nearly all the spam that arrives, and it's fairly inexpensive ($1 per mailbox per month). Scaling it to the size of Google will make it even better. I'm looking forward to it.

Cash? (1)

caluml (551744) | about 7 years ago | (#19800939)

Cash - so a suitcase of dollar/euro/pound notes then?

Re:Cash? (1)

palfreman (164768) | about 7 years ago | (#19801565)

Cash in this context means a bank transaction, as opposed to buying for so many Google shares

Re:Cash? (1)

ashitaka (27544) | about 7 years ago | (#19802223)

As was noted in another thread:

"Any sufficiently advanced sarcasm is indistinguishable from offtopic" (or ignorance in this case)

Hopefully I'm not giving too much credit to the grandparent.

Re:Cash? (1)

edmicman (830206) | about 7 years ago | (#19802381)

No, I'm pretty sure it's really a suitcase with bills and c-notes. The suitcase probably *does* have a Google logo on it, though. Really. I've seen these things in movies.

Scale comparison (1)

vigmeister (1112659) | about 7 years ago | (#19801039)

Postini was bought for an amount roughly 83 times the price AMD paid of Transmeta. That just completely screws with my perceptions of scale regarding the value of companies. And I thought I had a pretty good idea of the number system we use.

Maybe these companies should just start publishing these numbers in milliards and crores and I would still grasp the value of the transaction about as well...


Re:Scale comparison (1)

Horn (517263) | about 7 years ago | (#19801417)

Perhaps this is because AMD only invested in Transmeta and didn't buy them out?

Re:Scale comparison (1)

vigmeister (1112659) | about 7 years ago | (#19802021)

True... I forgot that but even so, the difference in the relative values of the companies seems unworldly... Worse is that it makes logical sense to me economically (Postini on the up, Transmeta down and out for the count), but just the fact that I can't really visualize or internalize it is bothering me. Whatever happened to the days when code was cheap?


Google OS (1)

Diabolus Advocatus (1067604) | about 7 years ago | (#19801071)

It's most likely another step towards Google creating their own OS, where all machines are thin-clients and applications are run from a server such as the way Google Apps are at the moment.

From the article:

Like Google Apps, Postini's services are entirely hosted, eliminating the need to install any hardware or software.

Personally I wouldn't go for it, but it makes sound economic sense to a lot of companies. Thin clients are alot cheaper than standard PC's and instead of paying thousands of euro to microsoft for licensing, they can pay a small subscription to Google instead. Maybe they will receive the service free from Google, with Google making money from advertising within it's OS.

Clueless email admins untie! (1)

Gothmolly (148874) | about 7 years ago | (#19801579)

This will be greeted with cheers by countless Exchange-Server-In-A-Box admins, who can't configure any sort of spam or content filtering on their side, or by those too frightened by Unix to implement their own relays. "If it has Google goodness, it must be ok - lets just use Postini! (while I make myself less and less relevant)".

Sorry, bitter today, mopped up after too many bad mail admins.

PS Find the joke and win the prize!

Email Down (1)

Bellum Aeternus (891584) | about 7 years ago | (#19802083)

Oh the irony! My company's email service is hosted by Postini and is down this morning.

I had my previous firm using Postini (2, Informative)

ashitaka (27544) | about 7 years ago | (#19802157)

I started off with Spamassassin+CLAMAV and something else and some Exchange server-based rules but the upkeep was time-intensive and the spam were still coming down our wire.

Then I got Postini and the world changed. Upkeep was mindless, the product was really cheap per mailbox and a huge portion of the spam was stopped at Postini's servers hugely reducing the load on our Spamwall and Exchange servers. In addition, it also gave us mail spooling for when we had to take the Exchange server down or if our Internet connection went out. Nothing was ever lost.

This is another case of Google finding an excellent product that fits in with their business direction and will enhance their products, not just a Microsoft-type acquisition intended to stifle competition.

I'm not happy about this. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19802801)

The ACM redirects all of my personal email through Postini to my Yahoo account, and it's been a great service. Catches all kinds of garbage that Yahoo is incapable of filtering. But the idea of all of my personal mail now going through "do no evil" Google is really disquieting. I evaded gmail, but it's apparently found me.
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