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Blogging Is 10 Years Old

kdawson posted more than 6 years ago | from the or-thereabouts dept.

The Internet 108

Several readers sent us notice of an article in the Wall Street Journal in advance of the tenth anniversary of the blog (by some definitions and accounts). The Ur-blogger in this version of history was Jorn Barger and the blog was Robot Wisdom. Barger wrote, "I decided to start my own webpage logging the best stuff." The Journal article has statements from a baker's dozen of bloggers and/or blogwatchers and a handful of videos of bloggers talking about how and why they do what they do.

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108 comments

Wow amazing coincidence (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19869431)

10 is also the mental age of people who blog.

Slashbot Rhyme (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19869471)

I make a dash to the Slash to the D-O-T Coz them news for nerds makes sense to me So let this serve as a warning to the spammers and trolls You may have a fat pipe but you ain't got bawls. There's a new manifesto by ESR And the stats of the watts of a hybrid car I gots love for Perens and miguel, et al And I voted CowboyNeal on the Slashdot Poll I'm Microsoft bashin' like every single day Coz the OS got holes and Exploder's teh gay Now SCO's talkin' trash so I give firefox a ride To reply as a Coward so I can hate on McBride I will flame you with language I won't say to your face And I bet you can't guess who gots all your base There's one way to know if your server is rotting Just post a link and you'll get a slashdotting You can mod me down coz I'm a karma whore And I'm a decorated veteran of a recent flame war Where they fought about an app with a K or a G And a heated debate on what was meant by "Free" As a slashbot, when Linux receives a threat, My palms begin to sweat and my evil bit is set You best believe I'll be posting a rant And I'll be surfin' Slashdot 'til my mom says I can't.

Re:Slashbot Rhyme (1)

sharperguy (1065162) | more than 6 years ago | (#19870447)

This is pretty damn funny but it should still be modded offtopic lol

Re:Slashbot Rhyme (1)

cHiphead (17854) | more than 6 years ago | (#19870533)

Sure off topic, but the lack of hot grits and natalie portman was upsetting, i say mod down to +4 Funny. ;)

KDAWSON is a douchebag. Hear Hear!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19872237)

Stupid article by a stupid editor.

Re:Slashbot Rhyme (1)

zeath (624023) | more than 6 years ago | (#19871187)

By most definitions, Slashdot is a blog. I would say their ode to /. could be considered very on topic.

Re:Slashbot Rhyme (1)

tsa (15680) | more than 6 years ago | (#19873429)

How old is /. anyway? I have the feeling I've been here for far more than 10 years.

Re:Slashbot Rhyme (1)

beckerist (985855) | more than 6 years ago | (#19874723)

http://slashdot.org/about.shtml [slashdot.org]

10 years in a month and a half!

Re:Slashbot Rhyme (1)

tsa (15680) | more than 6 years ago | (#19876951)

Wow, and it looks like Taco hasn't had time to update his website since!

Credit where it's due. (3, Informative)

counterfriction (934292) | more than 6 years ago | (#19870619)

Come on man, give credit where it's due. Eberlin [slashdot.org] flowed that originally in this thread [slashdot.org]

Re:Slashbot Rhyme (1)

Organic User (1103717) | more than 6 years ago | (#19871217)

Mark Shaney [wikipedia.org] , is that you?

Re:Slashbot Rhyme (1)

brian.gunderson (1012885) | more than 6 years ago | (#19876545)

Looks alot better viewed as source. Next time, try "Plain Old Text" format selection...

And their moms STILL don't read their blogs. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19869485)

Nor does anybody else.

Re:Wow amazing coincidence (4, Interesting)

daeg (828071) | more than 6 years ago | (#19869505)

Depends on the kind of blog. A personal feelings blog, akin to most Live Journals/My Space/etc? I agree. Technical blogs, e.g., programming techniques/tips? Those are better, but aren't really blogs. They just allow someone to easily post information without organizing it into website.

Re:Wow amazing coincidence (1)

The One and Only (691315) | more than 6 years ago | (#19872685)

What about news blogs? Porn blogs? Slashdot? Economics blogs? Philosophy blogs? Blogs intended to keep your friends up to date on your life? There are lots of blogs that serve different purposes to different audiences.

Re:Wow amazing coincidence (1)

mdwh2 (535323) | more than 6 years ago | (#19875671)

Depends on the kind of blog. A personal feelings blog, akin to most Live Journals/My Space/etc? I agree.

What's a "personal feelings" blog? Do you simply mean "personal" blog? I'm not sure how you can sum up all personal blogs/journals/etc.

I actually find the stand-alone political and technical blogs, where people think they are posting insightful material to the world, but actually hardly anyone ever reads them, to be the sign of immaturity. Indeed it's ironic that the so-called "personal" blogs often get a far greater response from readers from political/technical posts than many political or technical blogs.

Personal blogs at least do when they are intended to do - whether that's keeping a diary, or communicating with friends. I find it odd that it's the personal journals on community sites like LJ and MySpace which get all the criticism on Slashdot, even though the criticisms (e.g., "person thinking that the whole world is interested in him") apply only to the stand-alone blogs.

Oblig maddox (2, Informative)

ascendant (1116807) | more than 6 years ago | (#19869849)

MODERATORS!!! Read this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19870277)

mod parent up

I thought it was Dave Winer that invented it (1)

sgant (178166) | more than 6 years ago | (#19870217)

I mean, the guy claims to have invented everything else, right?

Re:Wow amazing coincidence (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19870379)

I think it is the sexual level of maturity too. Oh wait, that's also all of slashdot.

Re:Wow amazing coincidence (1)

reallocate (142797) | more than 6 years ago | (#19871007)

Those who can blog, blog. Those who can't post to Slashdot.

Re:Wow amazing coincidence (1)

stonedcat (80201) | more than 6 years ago | (#19871449)

I think I'm going to write about this on my blog.

Oh, please, it's much older than 10 years (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19869461)

We all know Dr. Doogie Howser, MD, invented blogging back in 1989.

Hey, another STUPID article posted by KDAWSON! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19869771)

Journalism, anyone? I wish that they would "fire" kdawson for posting so many asinine "articles," but then again, hey, this is Slashdot, where such nonsense is obligatory.

Good DAY, sir!

Re:Hey, another STUPID article posted by KDAWSON! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19870885)

Keith Dawson makes me wish they'd re-hire Jon Katz to replace him. At least he was honest about his trolling and self-promotion. Besides, we could have "OMG DOGGIES!" to go with our "OMG PONIES!"

So I'm guessing that KDAWSON modded parent down? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19870979)

It was YOU, wasn't it, kdawson? Tool.

Sounds like the making of a Futurama joke (1)

CrazyJim1 (809850) | more than 6 years ago | (#19870731)

Captain Zapp Brannigan,"Captains blog, Stardate 3007. You suck. Yes, you the reader of my blog."

Though I think that may be too obscure for watchers. (Hint SNL skit)

He also typical of most bloggers: (3, Insightful)

Winckle (870180) | more than 6 years ago | (#19869499)

"Maintained by Jorn Barger (jorn@mcs.com). Last updated: Aug99"

Re:He also typical of most bloggers: (1)

Zocalo (252965) | more than 6 years ago | (#19869541)

That does seem to the way of most Blogs. If only this thought [blaugh.com] would occur to a few more wannabe bloggers, then there might be a higher signal to noise ratio out there.

Overinflated self-importance, however... (4, Insightful)

nuzak (959558) | more than 6 years ago | (#19869515)

... much more than 10 years old.

Re:Overinflated self-importance, however... (2, Interesting)

ByteGuerrilla (918383) | more than 6 years ago | (#19871277)

Yup. First thing that could be likened to a blog was the usenet group mod.ber, which was a guy's one-man newsgroup which he used as a blog. That was like, mid '80s.

Re:Overinflated self-importance, however... (1)

porl (932021) | more than 6 years ago | (#19874443)

what about the old .plan files? isn't a 'blog' essentially a html version of these?

Virtualkid (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19869535)

I still think that Virtualkid(.com, long since gone) was the site that made blogging popular. It had (free) online diaries for anyone who wanted one back in 98. Good stuff happened. Interesting things were started. Trends were set. We were there. And our mental ages at the time may have been little over 10, but they were still good days.

Anyone with half a brain who was there, will see through my Anonymous Cowardice and know who I am :).

Sounds about right (3, Interesting)

zaren (204877) | more than 6 years ago | (#19869567)

My son is 10 years old. I kept a series of web pages up while my wife was she was pregnant with him that were pretty reminiscent of today's blogs - quick little entries about things that happened, complete with little indicator icons about what kind of entry it was, like the "mood" icons that they use now. Sadly, the Internet Archive never made copies of my pages; all I have is hard copies.

Re:Sounds about right (2, Funny)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 6 years ago | (#19869691)

So the first blog was really this?:

April 4 - My son barfed on the curtains :-(

April 7 - My son said "daddy" for the first time :-)

May 2 - My wife forced me to change Billy's diapers. Ohhh, they stunk to high hell :-(

May 4 - Little Billy uttered a bunch of strange sounds, something like, "glergg zhlagg blog". Thus, I will name this website "blog", in honor of his utterances. I hope it catches on.
     

News flash. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19869569)

You fail mindfucking, douchebags. Cuz I obsess in a futuristic cult and stuff.

Not quite the first (5, Informative)

nemerrle (1128473) | more than 6 years ago | (#19869595)

Umm, Steve Jackson (of GURPS fame) has had a daily blog since December 1994: http://www.sjgames.com/ill/1994/ill-dec94.html [sjgames.com]

Mod parent up! (2, Funny)

Daath (225404) | more than 6 years ago | (#19870171)

They were off by 3 years :P
I just lost my 5 mod-points because I didn't use them, otherwise I'd mod you up.

Re:Not quite the first (1)

Ohreally_factor (593551) | more than 6 years ago | (#19871237)

Bah. Dogs invented blogging long before there were even computers. They call it "pissing on trees".

Re:Not quite the first (1)

the Howard Dean Camp (748694) | more than 6 years ago | (#19871811)

There was a kid at Carnegie Mellon who kept a "blog" in his .plan file, regularly updated starting in 1993. Search for "randy's .plan file"

Re:Not quite the first (1)

SEE (7681) | more than 6 years ago | (#19872411)

"blog" is short for "web log" A regularly updated .plan file is not a "web log". Therefore . . .

Re:Not quite the first (1)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 6 years ago | (#19872727)

Back in 95/96, I had a CS professor that kept weekly class news, etc in his .plan file. It was also archived on his web page. I also recall some game companies that had a web front end for current and archived employee .plan files from around the same time.

egh (1)

j_d (26865) | more than 6 years ago | (#19869613)

nobody cares.

Unintentional DDoS (1)

popejeremy (878903) | more than 6 years ago | (#19869681)

Nothing says, "Thanks for inventing blogging!" like taking down your server with a hearty slashdotting.

Re:Unintentional DDoS (4, Funny)

slughead (592713) | more than 6 years ago | (#19869765)

Nothing says, "Thanks for inventing blogging!" like taking down your server

If they did invent blogging, that's certainly how I'd repay them.

Poor Theo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19869695)

In a July 2005 Wired magazine item, writer Paul Boutin reported encountering a "homeless and broke" Theo De Raadt walking with a mutual friend in Calgary, Alberta. The article said that Theo, "living on less than a dollar a day"[1] had allowed the OpenBSD domain registration to lapse, but that Boutin found OpenBSD.org back online a few weeks later.

There were blogs on BBSes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19869699)

Tag, WWIV, Renegade and Telegard had a "blog" feature (though it wasn't called that).

"blog" == "web log" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19869825)

"BBS" != "web"

It's important to note blogs != online diaries (2, Interesting)

artifex2004 (766107) | more than 6 years ago | (#19869759)

at least according to their definition.

Online diaries [wikipedia.org] are several years older.

Re:It's important to note blogs != online diaries (1)

Sinistar2k (225578) | more than 6 years ago | (#19874807)

It's just semantics, really. I'd say that .plan files were really the first blogs.

Ziggy, we need more information!!! (2, Funny)

InvisblePinkUnicorn (1126837) | more than 6 years ago | (#19869797)

Now all we need is Dr. Sam Beckett to step into the Quantum Leap accelerator, and set right what once went wrong.

SlashBlog (1)

JonBuck (112195) | more than 6 years ago | (#19869807)

Slashdot is not so much a news site as a collective blog, IMO.

hey..! (1)

UncleWilly (1128141) | more than 6 years ago | (#19869877)

I resemble that remark!

Re:SlashBlog (1)

Carewolf (581105) | more than 6 years ago | (#19873553)

Slashdot is the quintessential blog, and slightly older than 10 years.

How much I don't know, I only started reading it 10 years ago.

more than 10 years... (1)

Orig_Club_Soda (983823) | more than 6 years ago | (#19869823)

I wrote myself a Perl script to "blog" back in 1995. Cause it was easier to update a website...

Protip (1)

fullphaser (939696) | more than 6 years ago | (#19869851)

Blogging is not some new concept invented back in 1997. I am pretty sure a great many people kept journals long before that. Blogging is not a unique concept, its simply one of the oldest concepts applied to HTML rather than pen and paper. In this matter the buzz word blog and ever possible tense there of are nothing more than keeping a journal and using HTML rather than Pen and Paper to do it.

What.....?! (1)

IHC Navistar (967161) | more than 6 years ago | (#19869895)

Blogging is 10 years old? WTF?

Someone should smack the crap out of the idiot who made that claim. That, and never let him write another 'article' again.

The only way blogging could be 10 years old is if "Blogging" is a kid that was born 10 years ago.

*sigh* I wonder what real articles the SlashDot editors passed up for this story on a bullsh*t claim.

Re:What.....?! (1)

Icarus1919 (802533) | more than 6 years ago | (#19869935)

If you check the Firehose you can find all the articles you could ever want to get your grubby little hands on.

Congratulations! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19869967)

Wow! Congratulations to him, does anyone has Blogging's email to send him a message? Maybe a toy!

try 1996 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19869991)

Thats when the wayback machine says geocities started up (or maybe when the wayback machine started?)

http://web.archive.org/web/19961022173245/http://w ww.geocities.com/ [archive.org]

I remember living in hotsprings for a while :) no one had more animated gifs than I.

Jerry Pournelle (1)

Vinegar Joe (998110) | more than 6 years ago | (#19870085)

I've been reading Jerry Pournelle since around 1995.

http://www.jerrypournelle.com/ [jerrypournelle.com]

Re:Jerry Pournelle (1)

EvilBudMan (588716) | more than 6 years ago | (#19877957)

http://www.jerrypournelle.com/#blog [jerrypournelle.com]

I wish I had mod points to day I'd MOD you up. He and others really go back before this on BBS's too.

He claims he had the first one though.

mmm not really (3, Informative)

azav (469988) | more than 6 years ago | (#19870117)

Check out the .plan files by American McGee and John Carmack and the other guys who were at Id in the mid 90's.

They are at least one case of blogging before the reported originator.

Carmack wrote about "Stupid Testarossa Adventures" in addition to the ongoings at Id. American wrote about "Stupid Contests I Get People to Do" in addition to the ongogings at Id. Others "blogged" too. Tastefully or not. Steed wrote about his stripper inspired 3d models. Cash wrote something too. Brian Hook was there writing as well, in addition to others I have forgotten.

This all was documented at BluesNews.con where you could read their plan files on a daily basis.

They're certainly older than that. (2, Informative)

vitaflo (20507) | more than 6 years ago | (#19870213)

I'm sure the *term* blog is probably 10 years old, but the idea goes back further than 10 years for sure. I know myself and others who had dated "posts" on topics dating back to '95. They were mostly links and items and opinions about a specific topic. Back then they were just generally called "news", "notes" or "thoughts" but it was not much different from any tech blog you would see today. I'm quite sure there were others who go back even further than this. The idea isn't inherently new or creative, it's just the term that was given to them that was.

Then again it all depends on what you really consider a "blog". Some people consider web logs and blogs to be different things (which may also be different from a journal, or a news site, etc). So the entire idea of pinpointing a "start" to it is sort of silly, given how similar they all tend to be.

Re:They're certainly older than that. (1)

gaffle (1126429) | more than 6 years ago | (#19877355)

I would say that blogs started when software interfaces that made it extremely easy for (non-technical-at-all-whatsoever) people to post serialized news were developed. The actual content, purpose, etc, of a 'blog' has existed since the old BBSes as far as I'm concerned.

not to brag but i've been "blogging" for eleven (1)

victorvodka (597971) | more than 6 years ago | (#19870239)

Seriously, check it out: July 31st, 1996: http://asecular.com/musings/aug96 [asecular.com] . and the day before yesterday: http://asecular.com/index.php?070713 [asecular.com]

Re:not to brag but i've been "blogging" for eleven (1)

Synonymous Dastard (1126353) | more than 6 years ago | (#19870909)

Unfortunately, archive.org does not list the page you are referring to before 2006. I am not implying that you are lying, just that it takes more than a page saying "today is such date" to actually prove that it was written on this date.

(and I began my blog in 2001)

Eight more years (2, Funny)

iminplaya (723125) | more than 6 years ago | (#19870275)

And it will be legal.

Re:Eight more years (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19870635)

And another 42 before any slashdotter even stands a chance.

Blogs predate the web (1)

davidwr (791652) | more than 6 years ago | (#19870329)

OK, Web logs don't predate the web but the concept of an online journal does.

I imagine the first such use was probably back in the '60s, maybe older.

Paper public diaries are probably as old as paper, and "what I did today" fireside chats are probably as old as fire.

History of blogging (2, Informative)

btempleton (149110) | more than 6 years ago | (#19870367)

Well, of course it all depends on definition. Most definitions of weblog require the web, but people seem to have forgotten that when Tim Berners-Lee defined the "web" he did it as a network of protocols, including http and html (which he developed) but also gopher, usenet, ftp and others. URLs were meant to tie them all together.

This puts the blog much further back in time. I personally believe the credit for first blog goes to mod.ber, a moderated newsgroup from 1983 that was effectively similar to boing boing today. Brian E Redman (after whom the group was named) and friends found interesting threads out on the net and posted pointers to them in mod.ber

Most blog definitions also require it be serial. There is some debate as to whether the people who kept running commentaries in their .plan file under finger might have a claim on being an earlier blog.

It's possible that my own rec.humor.funny/netfunny.com may be the longest still-running blog. It is 20 years in two weeks. It is serial, started on the pre-HTML web and like other blogs, has a solo editorial voice.

Some of this history can be found at Wikipedia's blog page [wikipedia.org] and I wrote about RHF's history as the oldest blog [netfunny.com] with pointers to other contenders.

Re:History of blogging (1)

ByteGuerrilla (918383) | more than 6 years ago | (#19871375)

Right on, the blog is more than 10 years old by a long shot, it's just its frame of existence has evolved. By rights you could say world war is little over 90 years old, but the definition of the world has changed a lot in the past millenia. It's a bad analogy, but I think it gets my point across. The only reason to claim blogging is only 10 years old is if you started blogging more than five years ago and want to sound like you were closer to the founding of blogging than if it started in the 80s. I think it would be prudent to keep it to the Internet though, otherwise we could claim syndicated stories in newspapers are early blogs and that's a step too far :) If I hadn't already posted what you had already said about mod.ber, I would be modding you up informative. Great post. That'll teach me to, in future, read down the page before I post.

Re:History of blogging (1)

jg21 (677801) | more than 6 years ago | (#19874269)

Brad Templeton's contributions as outlined here are now part of an article in Social Computing Magazine, "Did Blogging First Start in 1997, 1994...or 1983?" [socialcomp...gazine.com] . Thanks to Brad and to Slashdot for setting the record straight!

I hate blogs! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19870593)

Blogs are frickin' stupid. They are written by uninteresting people who think others actually give a damn what they have to say. The most ignorant comments I read on Slashdot are from idiots saying, "Oh, I bogged on that yesterday." Worse, their posts have links to their inane crap.

Re:I hate blogs! (1)

Z0mb1eman (629653) | more than 6 years ago | (#19872797)

You know, I agree! I actually blogged about this very phenomenon just the other day. Here's a link to my blog! [hahagreatidea.com] I'm sure you'll be very interested in what I had to say.

(disclaimer: above link does not contain content relevant to this post... or does it?)

Pitty he did not patent it (2, Insightful)

houghi (78078) | more than 6 years ago | (#19870633)

because that would have ment that nobody would be able to blog.

How quickly the WELL has been forgotten. (2, Insightful)

Archeopteryx (4648) | more than 6 years ago | (#19870685)

The WELL, or Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link was a forum were people were doing what we would now call blogging but LONG before the WWW existed.

Re:How quickly the WELL has been forgotten. (1)

rapiddescent (572442) | more than 6 years ago | (#19873997)

not just WELL, but also here in the UK at least) text talkers/BBS such as CheesePlants House (1990), Olajier (1991) and of course most ended up on Monochrome BBS [mono.org] which is still running today and has active user accounts that are over 16 years old. The latter has had diaries (allbeit, not web-logs) for all users since near the beginning.

one thing about the text BBS's - they are so much faster and easier to use than modern forum websites...

rd

Wrong (1)

diesel66 (254283) | more than 6 years ago | (#19870787)

Blogging is at least 11 years old! I used to blog about the impending Apple/Next merger back in '96, posting every few days with whatever new angle was in the news.

I'm certain there was somebody doing it even earlier than that.

I _stopped_ blogging in 2001 (1)

melted (227442) | more than 6 years ago | (#19870845)

I had a fairly successful, Slashdot-style blog (and forum) with around 10K unique daily visitors (and growing). I closed it in 2001 - lost interest. I believe that with a few exceptions the blog fad will blow over. Sooner or later you just run out of interesting things to say and start regurgitating bullshit from other blogs. Then you start regurgitating the regurgitations from other blogs. It becomes sort of like making sausage - you put all sorts of crap in and hope it will "sell".

what's new? (1)

trb (8509) | more than 6 years ago | (#19870877)

Well before the sites mentioned in the WSJ article, the folks at UIUC NCSA [uiuc.edu] (who begat Mosaic, from which sprung Netscape, Mozilla, and Firefox), had a What's New [netscape.com] site that did what indexed the best of the web (which the article describes as the orignin of blogging), but UIUC started doing it in 1993 - that's even before Yahoo.

The NCSA What's New index does not seem to be archived any longer at UIUC, but rather at Netscape. That's puzzling to me, since I think it's an absolutely essential part of the history of the growth of the web.

Daily Illuminator (1)

Johnny Mnemonic (176043) | more than 6 years ago | (#19870919)

Steve Jackson, of Steve Jackson Games, (best known for Car Wars and GURPS), has been running something that pretty closely resembles a blog since at least November 1994 [sjgames.com] . That has this guy beat by 2 years at least.

I was "blogging" before that... (1)

macraig (621737) | more than 6 years ago | (#19871099)

... using simple HTML and Notepad on a Web page inside my generous 10MB of personal Web space alloted with my dial-up Netcom account. It definitely qualified as a blog, it was linear and every entry was dated. Things like dynamic HTML and CM systems were still foreign terms, and those personal webpages allowed no scripting, so it was pretty crude stuff, but still a blog! I still have that old site archived... should hang it up for fun one of these days.

Re:I was "blogging" before that... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19873315)

Mine dates from March '96...
WSJ is useless when it comes to tech.

To continue the spirit of blogging... (1)

socialnetworkwhore (1128555) | more than 6 years ago | (#19871581)

To contribute to the blogging community, I've setup http://www.socialnetworkwhore.com/ [socialnetworkwhore.com] The epidemy of the social networking and blogging world!

Umm... Lileks? (1)

Wdomburg (141264) | more than 6 years ago | (#19871595)

The article states:

On Dec. 23, 1997, on his site, Robot Wisdom, Mr. Barger wrote: "I decided to start my own webpage logging the best stuff I find as I surf, on a daily basis," and the Oxford English Dictionary regards this as the primordial root of the word "weblog."


There's at least one well known blog predating that; James Lileks started the Bleat in February 1997.

Justin Hall cited by some sources (1)

miller60 (554835) | more than 6 years ago | (#19871807)

FWIW, Duncan Riley [duncanriley.com] cites Justin Hall as the first regular blogger with a start date of Jan. 1996. The disagreemnent about the first blogger will probably continue, but between Riley's documentation and the other examples cited here, it's clear that Barger was not the first and the Wall Street Journal did almost no research on the story. It's idiotic, since they could be certain the story would be fact-checked quickly by the blogosphere.

Re:Justin Hall cited by some sources (1)

sakusha (441986) | more than 6 years ago | (#19873453)

Ric Ford was blogging in early 1994 at Macintouch.com and he's still at it today.

Blog: definition (1)

popo (107611) | more than 6 years ago | (#19872095)

Blog: Idiot-proof WYSIWYG toolset for those incapable of usng HTML, FTP and other standard web technologies.

ie: Morons invaded the web approximately 10 years ago.

Re:Blog: definition (1)

mdwh2 (535323) | more than 6 years ago | (#19875781)

Blog: Idiot-proof WYSIWYG toolset for those incapable of usng HTML, FTP and other standard web technologies.

ie: Morons invaded the web approximately 10 years ago.


So you're a moron if you use existing tools rather than reinventing the wheel yourself?

Even those of us who can FTP and build our own webpage still find it immensely easier to use existing blog software.

I do hope you're reading Slashdot through telnet (preferably a telnet application you wrote yourself in machine code...)

BBS? (1)

Sir Holo (531007) | more than 6 years ago | (#19872181)

BBS's back in the 80's had threaded discussion topics. They didn't call them blogs, but I don't see how they were in principle any different than blogs. (aside from being direct-dial based vs on the internet)

And surely someone had a TurboGopher or ARPAnet "site" that posted the latest news?

Or does "blog" mean something more than "shared journal"?

... and Slashdot is 2 months away from the same (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19872507)

80-something comments and no mention of Chips and Dips? For shame...

I call bullshit! (2, Insightful)

billcopc (196330) | more than 6 years ago | (#19873013)

I'm absolutely certain (without proof) that the act of blogging predates these hypocrites!

The difference is that back in the day, you had to be well-versed in the technology to pull it off. You couldn't just download Wordpress, wear a yuppie shirt and call yourself a genius back then, you had to write your own scripts/software, or do it by hand with HTML and a whole lot of patience.

I know I was doing it, with a randy assortment of little management apps and batch files (I was a DOS geek at the time). My design skills were puke, but it's safe to say my site was updated extremely often for a vanity site; more than my present blog, that's for sure. This was in 1996, the good old days when the biggest MP3 stash online was bongo.tamu.edu and animated gifs were all the rage.

Did I make any money with that early "blog" ? Hell no! Does that disqualify me as a blogger ? To the WSJ, probably!

10 years whatever (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19873403)

I've been posting my mindless and uninformed opinions on BBS's for way more then 10 years =)

Blogging is way older... just different names (1)

ajv (4061) | more than 6 years ago | (#19873499)

John Carmack used finger to blog way back when. Before that, we used news to do stuff like what Twitter does today.

I kept an online diary older than this "date". Was it called a blog? No, it was collected ramblings, pretty much the same as today. Was it a blog? I have not really changed since I started writing my occasional entries in ~ 95 or so, so yes, it's blogging.

Andrew

And in other news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19874197)

Boinking is (almost) as old as life itself...
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