Harry Potter Leaked Via Handheld Camera 427
owlgorithm writes "Salon reports that Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows has been leaked four days before it hits bookstores. It turns out that someone with access to the American edition of the book has taken a photograph of every one of the pages and made them available via bittorrent. Publishers may well be quaking in their boots, but in some places the quality is barely legible. On many pages the pirateer's hands are in the pictures with other pages needing a bit of Photoshopping just to make out the words. It appears many of the sites have been removing the content, naturally enough."
So? (Score:4, Insightful)
HERE IT IS, OCD'D (Score:4, Funny)
"I would have if I could," Harry said, "but I didn't have the O.W.L.s to manage it. Remember, her last letter said she was going to go on to post-graduate work." They waved to familiar friends and began introducing themselves to the new students. Quite a lot of the younger students kept passing them and then looking back at Harry and stopping dead in surprise.
After eight years, Harry was used to being stared at. The dark Lord Voldemort's attack on him as a baby left him a distinctive lightning bolt-shaped scar on his forehead, and the reputation of being the only person Voldemort couldn't kill outright did the rest, with some help from the reputation Harry had built for himself since. After discovering he was a wizard and could attend Hogwart's School of Wizardry, Harry had gotten wind of several of Voldemort's evil schemes and had thwarted them all. He had faced death, humiliation, basilisks, dragons, evil wizards, malicious spells, foul odors, the undead, and even the Inland Revenue and remained unscathed. Oddly enough, Voldemort's schemes seemed to be losing oomph, as if he could no longer pull together enough power to get a really good evil plan together. The last attempt had been to place Harry on a chain letter mailing list.
As more and more students kept staring at him, Harry began to realize that there was a different class of attention. He recognized the star-gazers, the well-wishers, the groupies, the jealous, and the envious, but he kept noticing female students looking at him in a funny way, almost as if they were hungry. One pretty blonde student even went so far as to lick her lips and use her hand to smooth out the front of her robe, although Harry hadn't noticed any wrinkles..
Ron noticed it as well. "Cor, Harry! You outta be able to get some serious schtank this year! And we're finally of legal age to learn Sex Magic, so you'll have an excuse and everything."
"But why are they staring at me? Why not both of us?" Harry asked, blushing furiously.
"Well, look at you. You've been playing tournament-class Quidditch for eight years, you're in fantastic shape, you've got the scar (chicks love scars, Harry), and Daniel Radcliffe turned out to be a hunk."
"What?"
"Look, there's Hermione!"
Hermione Granger was standing at the bottom of the steps to the girls' dormitories. Harry and Ron dashed towards her and then stopped dead. Hermione had changed over the summer. The difference was so great that Harry was forced to realize that he hadn't really been paying attention the last few years. The mass of curly brown hair was still there, but it was arranged in an artful way to frame her face and curl over her shoulders. Her face was more angular, with high cheekbones and clear milky skin. The prominent front teeth were still there, but they only served to push her lips forward in a very interesting manner, making her look as if she was always just about to eat a strawberry. Her robes had changed as well; they fit quite a bit better, for one, and the neckline seemed much more fascinating than before. She had a thin leather belt around her waist, from which hung several small silk pouches and which incidentally accentuated her lush curves. Heavily orchestrated music began playing. "Hi Harry, hi Ron!" she called, and went to hug them both.
"Um, cough, wow, Hermione, you're looking really, um, good," Ron blurted out. Harry just nodded and concentrated on trying to breathe normally.
She preened. "Th
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Re:HERE IT IS, OCD'D (Score:5, Funny)
If you RTFA (read the ficticious alternative)... (Score:5, Funny)
Harry Potter survived an electric shock to his wand recently after an unfortunate accident which occurred during an argument between himself and Hermione at the girl's toilets. Rumors are abounding as to the exact details of the incident, but it has been corroborated by the Ministry of Madness that a handheld PC running on high voltage cells was in the possession of Hermione at the time of the incident. Alternative accounts of the incident state that in fact Harry Potter was having a leak at the boys' toilets whilst holding hands with Hermione (hence 'hand held leak'), whereas others refer to Harry Potter misinterpreting Hermione's comment about his personal computer being rather small. "I am not pea sized!" he was quoted as saying, shortly before his wand exploded.
Harry is currently recovering in bed and is due to have laser removal of a jagged tattoo that has developed on his lower body.
(source: AFP/Routers)
Re:So? (Score:4, Informative)
and it won't cost them (Score:5, Insightful)
Encourages sales more likely (Score:2)
The same really applies to those movie rip-offs shot with a video cam from the back row. Anybody buying a fuzzy/shaky rip-off will still buy a legal version later.
Re:and it won't cost them (Score:5, Interesting)
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Re:and it won't cost them (Score:5, Insightful)
By now the book has been distributed widely in preparation for the release, coming into contact with large numbers of people many of which are Harry Potter fans who don't take corporate secrecy particularly seriously. This was likely to leak just as critics' movie screeners, and published-submitted videogames commonly leak.
There's no cause to believe the PR people did anything intentionally -- any marketer would have to be a total fool to attempt such a risky trick on a book guaranteed to sell millions anyway. If it backfired, his ass is fired.
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i highly doubt that someone will just download this and not bother with the book.
there may not be any value added with a movie or a game (there might even be negative value added with DRM or copy protection), but a book is substantially better than these pictures.
Re:and it won't cost them (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:and it won't cost them (Score:5, Funny)
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Make several of them, with incompatible spoilers, and switch back and forth every few minutes.
Re:and it won't cost them (Score:5, Funny)
the publisher and author are claiming losses of 68 trillion US Dollars in US sales alone because of the leak.
They figured the number based on the claims made by software and Music publishers over the past few years.
Unfortunately now, every man woman and child in the UK will now have no electricity, heat, water or spicy food for 15 years because of this. The economic destruction that it will cause will probably bring the roman empire back to london, Make all beer taste sour, and disrupt peace in the middle east.
See how damaging Piracy is!! SEE!
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How is that different from British beer now? *duck*
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No one is going to attempt an OCR on it and upload it in Plucker format, or HTML? I read most of my books on my PDA these days...
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heh (Score:5, Funny)
Crappy cam quality. Can't they telesync a book nowadays?
Oh wait...
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Including a link for people who are not as 31337 as j00 and !.
http://216.239.51.104/search?q=cache:_R74sLFjp0MJ: www.aboutthescene.com/releases/tags.html+http://ww w.aboutthescene.com/releases/tags.html&hl=en&ct=cl nk&cd=1&gl=us [216.239.51.104]
And who saw that ending coming? (Score:5, Funny)
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Damn you! You're supposed to put SPOILER in big letters or ROT13 your post when you give away the ending like that, you insensitive clod!
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Re:And who saw that ending coming? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:And who saw that ending coming? (Score:5, Insightful)
On the one hand, it's something like 20 years old.
On the other hand, the Star Wars movies have become pop classics, and cultural icons. Thus, it is safe to assume that many people of each generation will want to watch them, and so we should try not to spoil it.
But wait...what order will they watch them? If they start with TPM, then they are going to already know about Vader when they get to the "I am your father" scene. It is no spoiler.
However, many of them will be lucky enough to have someone tell them the right way to watch the movies. (Start with ANH, and go forward until "I am your father", then gosub to TPM, AotC, and RotS to get the story behind Vader, then return and finish the series). It would be a spoiler for these people.
I think the Harry Potter books and/or films might end up in a similar position.
The rule should probably be that for any story (whether book, movie, comic, erotic flip book, whatever), you don't give away story details that might be spoilers unless you are sure you have an audience that already knows, or won't care.
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If you're the kind of person who finds it impossible to enjoy any movie if you know how it ends, I would suggest either seeing every movie on o
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No, the right way is obviously not to watch TPM, AtoC and RotS at all. And live happily ever after.
The main problem... (Score:4, Informative)
Unexpectedly ruined? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Unexpectedly ruined? (Score:5, Interesting)
When trolls post it in the middle of a batch of comments with a deceptive title? I didn't exactly seek out spoilers. It wasn't a Harry Potter related post even.
Re:Unexpectedly ruined? (Score:5, Insightful)
Christ. Pedants.
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Hell, that sucks. Although I haven't read the books but I'm trying to avoid spoilers. Really, I don't worry that much about explicit ones. Rather I am more concerned about subliminal spoilers. Yeah, the tinfoil hat is at full power.
Don't worry about it I guess. In the end the result should be the same. Either you'll enjoy the book or you won't. Subliminal messages are what you want
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It won't be ruined. I think it's a bit of a myth that the feeling of suspense really has anything to do with not knowing a few small facts that are revealed at the end. I can't give a definition of suspense, but I know from experience that it's something you feel in pretty much the same way whether or not you've seen some spoilers, and even when you've read a book before.
Re:The main problem... (Score:5, Insightful)
Having something "spoiled" is not simply a matter of having the suspense taken away. Yes, you can still enjoy the story if you know how certain things are going to be... but you don't enjoy it *as much* as if you're figuring out things as you go along. Ever watch a movie or read a book a second time? Ever notice things you didn't notice before... certain foreshadowings, links, etc.? It's a different experience when you know what happens than when you don't.
I accidentally got the books out of order in Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars trilogy; read 2/3rds of the way through Blue Mars before I read Green Mars. Then, realizing the mistake, stopped Blue and read Green. It wasn't nearly as much fun, knowing how the war would turn out and who would die and who would get captured and have a personality transplant and whatnot. (It's not nearly as interesting as it sounds; I wish I had those dozens of hours I spent slogging through the series back.) Reading the remainder of Blue Mars was much more diverting (the first 2/3rds was sort of confusing, for obvious reasons).
In fact, my husband and I have started avoiding trailers for much-anticipated movies, because even that spoils our enjoyment some. There are some movies or books that are better if you "know what to expect," but most of my favorite media experiences have been when I went in cold, knowing nothing about what to expect or what would happen.
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An example of a good trailer was the original Matrix trailer. It showed a little bit of action and the Gothic look and ended with the enigmatic "Unfortunately, I can't tell you what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself." Awesome. I will never forget the first time I saw the film in wonder at the things that Trinity was doing as she fled the cops or the shock of the
I'll be waiting for the TC (Score:2)
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Re:Are you a complete cheapskate? (Score:5, Funny)
The buying.
> Or, waiting a few days longer and borrowing a used copy from a friend?
The waiting.
> Or, waiting a few days longer and buying a used copy via eBay?
The buying.
> Or, borrowing a copy from your local library when they have it?
The waiting.
And will this decrease sales? (Score:5, Interesting)
And for you folks that read this and/or the spoilers, too bad. You could have closed your eyes.
Great marketing (Score:3, Insightful)
I should pattent this method of advertising.
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Won't it be funny when we find out that the *WRONG BOOK* was leaked?
Honeypot???
Re:Great marketing (Score:4, Funny)
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Uberspoiler at bayimg.com (Score:5, Informative)
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More on Bayimg (Score:2)
http://bayimg.com/album/oAaADaAaB [bayimg.com]
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NO COPYRIGHT. NO LICENSE.
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So now PirateBay can be sued... (Score:2)
Swedish law protects online "caching" of several copyrighted material, the exception to the rule is literacy.
That means PirateBay, which owns bayimg and the bittorrent servers controlling the distribution network of that online book now can be sued.
I saw it. (Score:2)
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Yes, much better to have it ruined by reading the book itself rather then have it ruined by reading a scan of the book ;)
Why? (Score:2)
Full Spoilers (Score:2, Informative)
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Only downside is, it's a new book. So the paperback edition won't be out for a while, and even most discount stores will want like $25 for the hardcover. Libraries will have it for a free checkout but the local libraries here have a 7-day checkout time for "new releases" whereas other books can be checked out for just over 3 weeks.
Just Fraking Great (Score:2, Insightful)
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HA! Just testing if you actually put your self in a black out.
I haven't rad it..or have I?
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BTW, the Lone Gunmen are dead.
How do we know? (Score:5, Funny)
The hands. (Score:5, Funny)
I have slept with J.K. Rowling, and I can state, with absolute certainty, that those are her hands. They are absolutely unmistakable, so the woman has leaked her own book. Way to drum up interest!
The ending was leaked! Hermione dies! (Score:2)
It's been leaked a lot easier than that. (Score:2, Interesting)
Sad comment on society (Score:2, Insightful)
Someone shot John Lennon? Gee, thanks... (Score:5, Funny)
I was just starting to enjoy this Beatles biography but you've ruined it for me now...
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Folks Just Don't Want an Old Yeller Ending (Score:3, Interesting)
I will never understand... (Score:5, Insightful)
I have a Sorting Hat replica I won from hollywood.com years ago, and yes, I will be wearing it to the midnight Harry Potter party, looking ridiculous, embarrassing my kids, and loving every minute of it. LoL. Enjoy life, you only go around once.
** SPOILER ALERT ** (Score:5, Funny)
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Serial numbers intact! (Score:5, Interesting)
Anyone who is a fan enough to..... (Score:2)
I mean come on... Haven't pirates found out about OCR scanning and text certainly compresses better than images.
But then again, a genuine fan would want something that fits collector status in at least a minimal way. Like buy the book and hope to get it autographed.
Pirated works are not collectible except to a pirate maybe, and then its not even for the work as much as it is for the act of piracy.
Of course there are th
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Why ?
Who cares? (Score:5, Interesting)
Now if someone OCR'd it to a text file, THAT might actually cut into sales a little bit. But in order to do that, the capture would have to not suck.
This is like a
Mal-2
Possible EIGHTH book spoilers (Score:2, Funny)
In other Harry Potter news... (Score:5, Insightful)
An Insightful Guardian columnist has finally come out and said what literate people have known all along. J.K. Rowling's writing is RUBBISH. [guardian.co.uk]
(If you find that revelation shocking, just don't ask about Dan Brown, ok?)
Predictably, a chorus of twit commenters felt driven to argue that the Potter Phenomenon's sheer Scale and Success makes it self-evidently Valuable to Society (much like B. Gates must be an Important and Clever Person because he's Really Rich.) Uh-uh. Crappy writing is not good for anyone, just like crappy food [supersizeme.com] (this may also come as a surprise to some [overlawyered.com]), and on this point I agree wholeheartedly with Mr Lezard:
All the Potter franchise does, like 99% of TV and Hollywood output, is entrench the hold of pointless and mediocre culture. The only thing unusual this time, is it's Made in Britain.
Don't be a pretentious ass (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm re-reading the Potter books for the first time, and yes, Rowlings weaknesses as a writer do shine through.
So what?
It's still a fun series. Not every movie needs to be Casablanca; the occasional plot light, special effects heavy movie can be fun sometimes. Not every song needs to be the Ode to Joy, sometimes it's fun to just sing along to some mindless, repetitive pop. We should eat our veggies, but the occasional candy is just fine for our health and a pleasant treat. Not every novel needs to be Brave New World, sometimes I want to enjoy some light fantasy about a kid exploring a magical world.
As for the claim that Potter is somehow bad for kids, that is utter nonsense. The reality is that most American kids really don't like reading. Hell, most American adults don't like reading. Forcing them to read "good" books (for just about any definition of "good") will just make them resentful and believe that books are something unpleasant to be avoided. I believe that's why so many Americans don't read; their emotional response to books linked mandatory book lists full of books that don't interest them. I can assure you that absent the Potter series those kids aren't going to magically start reading the Alice books. Books that the kids enjoy, even bad ones, encourage kids to read, convince them that books and other long form reading can be good. They may not enjoy any given "enduring classic" (for whatever definition you like), but any kid whose made it through Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix isn't going to be terribly daunted when facing 1984. Indeed, during my childhood I was strongly encouraged to read, but given wide freedom in what I read. I chose to read trashy fantasy. When I grew up and was assigned, say Madame Bovary in translation*, I blew through it while my classmates were bitching about how long and hard it was. After reading the first few Shannara novels in grade school, it was nothing. Reading begets reading. People who become serious readers tend to devour anything they can get their hands on. Maybe the bulk of their reading diet is romance novels, technothrillers, or fantasy, but they do occasionally read branch out and read other things. The people who fear books never do.
You and the Guardian writer are not enlightening all us ignorant savages that Rowling is a bad writer. No, you're just being a pretentious ass. It's not enough for you to enjoy the books you enjoy, you need to reach out and actively piss on the books other people enjoy. You're not changing anyone's mind. You're just enjoying being superior by your own tortured definition of superior. That makes you an ass.
* (Unless your goal is to make kids resent books as a source of long, boring, completely pointless crap, don't assign them Madame Bovary. I promise you that high school students will not appreciate it on any level.)
Re:Don't be a pretentious ass (Score:5, Funny)
Boy, was that a mistake...
just being a pretentious ass (Score:4, Funny)
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You are not enlightening us that trolling is bad. No you're just being a pretentious ass. It's not enough for you to enjoy the posts you enjoy, you need to reach out and actively piss on the posts other people enjoy. You're not changing anyone's mind. You're just enjoying being superior by your own tortured definition of superior. That makes you an ass.
Re:In other Harry Potter news... (Score:5, Insightful)
1) people who enjoy tales of all sorts, and just have a good time escaping into an engaging story.
2) people who read books so that they can either be seen reading them, or can wave the experience about as some sort of intellectualist validation.
Reading - and the pleasure therefrom - is an intensely personal experience. While I can even agree with the critic's comments regarding Ms. Rowling's predictable, repetitive plotting, farcically two-dimensional characters, and generally unchallenging language, I take great exception to his second-level conclusion: that any respectably intelligent person must not enjoy the book. I agree, JK Rowlings' writing IS rubbish; that doesn't mean it cannot be enjoyable. Not every meal needs to be nutritionally constructive either.
And, it must also be said, for him to dismiss categorically the value of getting children INTO reading - getting them to understand that the words on the pages can convey a story as rousing, fascinating, or frightening as any movie or video game - is simply ignorant. I rather suspect that Mr. Lezard has no children nor really any interaction with same, except perhaps as frightening little beasts underfoot that must be tolerated when the family comes over for holidays.
Re:In other Harry Potter news... (Score:4, Insightful)
So you find her world cliche (I do too). While I'd agree that her writing level is extremely low (even granted she's writing mainly for children) I'd hardly call her technically illiterate. Clearly she can read, and has a modicum of writing ability - how many books have you written that have sold over a million copies?
Read my post again, and perhaps a 3rd time. There IS nothing wrong with saying a book is good or bad. The fallacy is the prescriptive conclusion: "you should/shouldn't like this ipso facto because I did/didn't".
It's really my fault: maybe I should have phrased my post to a lower reading level, and placed it in a cliche setting - then maybe it would have been clearer.
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From what I recall of the Guardian, the primary purpose of their entertainment and lifestyle columnists is to derisively sneer at everything not esoteric or unattainable. If more than six people in London like something, it is inherently crap.
I approached the Harry Potter books with a great deal of cynicism and distrust, and actually found that they're GOOD TO READ! They're not complex stories, the writing isn't Nabokov or even Gaiman, but they're better than most.
Consid
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I'd rather have mine broaden their minds with Roald Dahl, Terry Pratchett and Philip Pullman than having them end up at the level of J. K. Rowlings and Nora Roberts.
Whatever qualities Terry Pratchett has, they are not as a writer of children's books. And I would rather have my kids reading J.K. Rowling than C.S. Lewis anyday. Rowling certainly has weaknesses as a writer; Lewis has all those weaknesses plus more -- moral, as well as literary. (No argument with Dahl and Pullman, mind you; but there aren't that many other children's writers who are more worth reading than Rowling. I'd rather read Harry Potter to the kids than the Wombles, say.)
Bruce Schneier comments (Score:2)
Here's the essence of what he has to say:
"I don't think it was possible to keep the book under wraps."
"There are simply too many people who must be trusted in order for the security to hold."
"My guess is that the publishers will lose zero sales"
Harry Potter, the Action Movie (Score:2)
This thing reads like the script for a Jerry Bruckheimer action movie.
Pirateer (Score:5, Informative)
Perhaps you mean 'pirate'? 'Pirateer' is not a word ('privateer' is, of course, a word, but clearly not meant here).
Table (Score:5, Funny)
And The Last Line Is.... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:The info you are looking for: (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Sigh... (Score:5, Funny)
You mean one of your neighbors isn't running a open WAP, er, I mean 'torrent anonymizer'?
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then again, the EXIF data can be faked if one was so inclined.
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It'd be hard to prove the serial number if you put the camera through a blender
Re:I'll wait until the 21st (Score:5, Funny)
ok, you are the biggest dork, you win.
Re:I'll wait until the 21st (Score:5, Informative)
ok, you are the biggest dork, you win.
Remember kids, gazpacho soup is served cold; spiced wine is served hot.
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Thank goodness, I'm off the hook this once.
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