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OLPC Used to Browse Porn

CowboyNeal posted about 7 years ago | from the extracurricular-activities dept.

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youthoftoday writes "The OLPC project to bring the internet to third world has worked well — too well, it seems. Yahoo reports that Nigerian Children are already using the OLPC to browse for porn." This is why as kids we couldn't look at National Geographic issues without being supervised. A rep from OLPC said, understandably, that the laptops would now be fitted with filters.

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338 comments

Then it is true (5, Funny)

Broken scope (973885) | about 7 years ago | (#19938325)

We have finally brought the joys of the internet to those less fortunate.

Re:Then it is true (2, Funny)

Adambomb (118938) | about 7 years ago | (#19938355)

Fry: It's immense.

Leela: It's got every piece of information anyone could ever want.

[Fry sees the porn sites.]

Fry: So I see!

[He flies down to the porn sites and Bender and Hermes follow him.]

Zoidberg: What? What's going on here?

[He sees a sign advertising "Sardine-on-Mackerel Action", warbles and flies towards it.]

Just give them a few weeks (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19938897)

Fry: "Well, thanks to the Internet, I'm now bored with sex!"

W3llcum 2 teh intarweb (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19938361)

Why don't OLPC do the decent thing and set goatse as the browser homepage?

Yeah, and the total disasters as well... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19938513)

Internets [goatse.cx]

Re:Then it is true (1)

acidrain (35064) | about 7 years ago | (#19938539)

And now like the rest of us, they know why they are the less fortunate. (What did OLPC expect?!?)

Re:Then it is true (5, Funny)

Tribbin (565963) | about 7 years ago | (#19938613)

Yes we HAD brought the joys of the internet to the less fortunate.
It's not fair.
These fortunate black males will now also see ads for penis enlargers. We will never be able to catch up with them... ever.

Re:Then it is true (4, Insightful)

kripkenstein (913150) | about 7 years ago | (#19938685)

Just think... a generation of children in the third world will learn programming just in order to hack around the anti-porn filters.

The end of 419 scams? (2, Funny)

Joce640k (829181) | about 7 years ago | (#19938829)

Maybe they'll chill out watching porn and stop sending all those email scams.

Re:Then it is true (2, Interesting)

Divebus (860563) | about 7 years ago | (#19938705)

Next, they figure out how to use the camera to make and sell their own porn.

First page view? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19938329)

404 File Not Found
The requested URL (hardware/07/07/21/1353241.shtml) was not found.

If you feel like it, mail the url, and where ya came from to pater@slashdot.org.

Re:First page view? (0, Offtopic)

Qubit (100461) | about 7 years ago | (#19938699)

yeah, that used to happen all the time to me as well. Because it would only happen when an articles was REALLY fresh -- no comments, nothing -- I figured it was some bug in Slash (the slashcode) that didn't atomically generate the page and the link to the page at the same time... or something.

national geographic? (1)

larry bagina (561269) | about 7 years ago | (#19938331)

cowboy neal has jungle fever!

Yeah right (4, Funny)

HalAtWork (926717) | about 7 years ago | (#19938333)

I really can't take the story's word for it without photographic evidence.

It's only fair... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19938339)

Americans looked at naked Africans as kids, so African kids should be able to look at naked Americans now.

Re:It's only fair... (2, Funny)

Calydor (739835) | about 7 years ago | (#19938453)

So the OLPC is a torture instrument?

Re:They are not allowed to. (5, Interesting)

arthurpaliden (939626) | about 7 years ago | (#19938693)

A few years back I was watching a documentary on TV dealing with stone age peoples somewhere in the world. At one point it showed all the the women (white scientists and black natives) and their children in the river bathing. Breasts of all shapes and sizes were visible as they all frolicked in the water. That is, on the black women, on the white women their brests were digitally obscured.

Re:They are not allowed to. (5, Funny)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | about 7 years ago | (#19938707)

That is, on the black women, on the white women their brests were digitally obscured.

So whose fingers were being used to cover the breasts?

big deal (2, Insightful)

heptapod (243146) | about 7 years ago | (#19938341)

I'd rather those Nigerian children would browse porn instead of sending out 419 emails.

Re:big deal (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19938597)

I'd rather those Nigerian children would browse porn instead of sending out 419 emails.

Hello, this is MR. JOE EBOH, the Chariman of the "Pamela Anderson Association of Nigeria." It has been brought to my attention through an official at the NIGERIAN NATIONAL BANK that there are funds in excess of $3,000,000 THREE MILLION DOLLARS and 15 DVDs protraying Ms. Anderson in an account in our name, that cannot be released without your help.

In other news (5, Insightful)

Deadplant (212273) | about 7 years ago | (#19938345)

It has been reported that the sun has risen in Nigeria today.
Analyst are in agreement that the sun will almost certainly rise again probably once each day for the next few weeks.

Also: filters? get a fucking clue.
How about instead we just use these internets to send the offending officials some biology texts so that can learn about human sexuality and stop trying to stifle it.

Re:In other news (4, Funny)

larry bagina (561269) | about 7 years ago | (#19938365)

better yet, point them to goatse and tubgirl.

Re:In other news (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19938599)

Yeah, let those kids learn about unprotected ass-to-mouth sex. That'll keep the HIV rates down!

It's a good thing... (5, Insightful)

Original Replica (908688) | about 7 years ago | (#19938725)

Yeah, let those kids learn about unprotected ass-to-mouth sex. That'll keep the HIV rates down!

Let them learn about every kind of sex, stop treating sex and masturbation like freakish taboo abnoramalities and let them have open honest dialogue about sex. That will bring HIV rates down. Alot of guys in porns wear condoms. Nobody every got AIDS from masturbating. If (while they actually stay monogamous) they can close their eyes and fantasize about some porn starlet and that fulfills their natural male desire for a variety of partners, then that too will help control the spread of STDs. Maybe some men there will learn to appreciate women who have orgasims, and the practice of female circumcision will stop. All in all this will probably be a good thing.

porn advances the adoption of new technolgies (1)

reversible physicist (799350) | about 7 years ago | (#19938669)

If all they do is watch porn, that's a problem. But if the existence of something they're very interested in (porn) on the Internet prompts them to learn how to make the computers work and to use search engines and to find out how to get around porn filters, etc., that's obviously motivating them to learn some useful skills! And while they're on that search engine, they may have some other questions that they're interested in...

Is it only rich countries that are allowed to benefit from porn providing motivation for the adoption of new technologies?

Re:In other news (1)

laejoh (648921) | about 7 years ago | (#19938761)

... trying to stifle it.

Now that's an interesting choice of words considering the subject!

Porn first, (1)

Michael Koh (1124105) | about 7 years ago | (#19938367)

email next.

Proxies (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19938369)

Soon these kids will learn how to walk through Torpark, and, as the OLPC distributors clog the the computers with even more filters and blocks, a new generation of extremely computer-able hackers will come of age.

Porn is inevitable (5, Funny)

Shabbs (11692) | about 7 years ago | (#19938371)

No matter where you go on the 'net, chances are you're going to hit some kind of porn sooner or later whether you meant to or not. Since these were originally destined for children, I'm surprised they did NOT come equipped with filters from the start. A big oversight for sure.

OLPC Project: "Here children, I give you THE INTERNET... totally unfiltered. Enjoy."

[5 minutes later...]

Children: "What is Goatse?"

Sigh...

Get those filters on!

Re:Porn is inevitable (5, Insightful)

Eudial (590661) | about 7 years ago | (#19938411)

Get those filters on!


If they truly only blocked porn, then maybe it would be a matter of discussion, but certain filters' habit of censoring all sorts of irrelevant contents, political and otherwise really makes porn the lesser of the two evils.

Re:Porn is inevitable (5, Insightful)

Tuoqui (1091447) | about 7 years ago | (#19938493)

As much as I hate to say it. You're right.

If you start blocking porn because of its content (porn) then the people who have the power will demand other things be blocked too which leads to the Great Firewall of China problem... Except this one would be in Nigeria.

The internet was supposed to free everyone and allow them to think for themselves. Naturally those in power decide to try and force it into a tool for control just like everything else from Income Taxes to Drivers Licenses.

Re:Porn is inevitable (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19938797)

Except here we're only talking about filtering software on the LAPTOPS.

This isn't something controlled by the government, it's controlled by those supporting the OLPC project. Not very likely that it will be used as a political tool.

And think about the demographic you're dealing with. Do the politician's even care right now?

Re:Porn is inevitable (1)

rlp (11898) | about 7 years ago | (#19938547)

Some time later:

OLPC Project: The filters are in place.

Children: Why is everything in Chinese?

No way! (5, Insightful)

Viraptor (898832) | about 7 years ago | (#19938377)

Seriously... who would've thought... Why was it reported at all? Maybe another title would be better - "Shocking revelation: Nigerian boys also want to see sex". I'm not surprised - are you? I'd say that great majority of males on the intertubes browsed porn sites at least once - keyword statistics from search engines seem to agree.

the question is why is this news (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19938391)

obviously children are going to be naughty.. Looking at "naughty" pictures is inevitable. The question is why was this news out so early??

  • because the filter manufacturers nood more sales?
  • because the OLPC opponents think it'll help their cause?
  • because the church wants to control knowledge about sex?
  • or because the states it's going to want to control the kids access to news?


what will OLPC do to protect free speech???

ha ha ha oh wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19938431)

because the filter manufacturers nood more sales?
manufacturers nood more sales?
nood more sales?
nood

That's one helluva Freudian slip there,chief!

Re:ha ha ha oh wow (1)

TheEmptySet (1060334) | about 7 years ago | (#19938461)

I recognise the grandparent's mistake. I bet he/she/it was using a Dvorak keyboard layout. It happons to mo all the timo.

Re:the question is why is this news (1)

TheSHAD0W (258774) | about 7 years ago | (#19938469)

Because a lot of countries are much more strict concerning pornography, and are likely to eschew the whole computing thing if the kids are seeing hooh-hahs and breastuses and weenies. I think censorware is more distasteful than pr0n, myself, but I understand where the OLPC people are coming from.

in other news... (5, Funny)

teknikl (539522) | about 7 years ago | (#19938395)

latex balloon sales to Nigeria skyrocket overnight!

Understandably? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19938399)

A rep from OLPC said, understandably, that the laptops would now be fitted with filters.

No, sorry, I do not understand. There's nothing evil about porn and those filter won't work anyway.

Re:Understandably? (1)

marcosdumay (620877) | about 7 years ago | (#19938823)

Well, if the children are free to mess with the filters, I see no bad :)

Re:Understandably? (1)

MontyApollo (849862) | about 7 years ago | (#19938917)

>>There's nothing evil about porn

These computers are for schooling. They can't learn as much if they are too busy whackin' it.

Time to end the OLPC project then (5, Funny)

maynard (3337) | about 7 years ago | (#19938421)

I mean - think of the children!!!

Re:Time to end the OLPC project then (1)

Original Replica (908688) | about 7 years ago | (#19938849)

I mean - think of the children!!!

Yes every single one of those children, and most every child in the world is a result of fucking. Why again do we need to protect them from this knowledge? Aside from protecting the tender egos of the older men and women who are past thier sexual prime and hate to be reminded of that fact?

419 training not going as expected? (0, Flamebait)

grapeape (137008) | about 7 years ago | (#19938423)

I'm all for helping the poor and supporting 3rd world countries etc, but I can name at least 50 nations more deserving of the OLPC program than Nigeria and yes I know that not everyone in Nigeria is a scammer but why are we so eagar to help a country that does so little to help itself? The reason the 419 crap continues is because they have government that looks the other way, hold them accountable then give handouts.

Re:419 training not going as expected? (1)

Lemmy Caution (8378) | about 7 years ago | (#19938565)

I hate to break it to you, but OLPC is being run as a business. Which means that if the Nigerian Ministry of Education comes up with the funds for the laptops, they get the laptops.

If patronizing naivety could be harnessed as an energy source, the OLPC would be able to light up the eastern seaboard.

Re:419 training not going as expected? (3, Insightful)

physicsnick (1031656) | about 7 years ago | (#19938819)

I can name at least 50 nations more deserving of the OLPC program than Nigeria
More "deserving"? Why, of all people, should we hold the children accountable for what their government is doing?

If anything, they are a better target for the OLPC, because these children can now get a better education to change their own government when their generation grows up.

Re:419 training not going as expected? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19938879)

If anything, they are a better target for the OLPC, because these children can now get a better education to change their own government when their generation grows up.


And get those porn filters removed!

Re:419 training not going as expected? (1)

1u3hr (530656) | about 7 years ago | (#19938851)

The reason the 419 crap continues is because they have government that looks the other way, hold them accountable then give handouts.

And obviously those primary school children should be punished because you got some spam from some asshole in Lagos at an Internet cafe. Taking laptops away from rural children will send a message to those scammers all right.

understandably? (5, Insightful)

nurb432 (527695) | about 7 years ago | (#19938425)

So its understandable that we will start enforcing our concept of morality on others right off the bat?

Remember, morality is relative.

Re:understandably? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19938479)

It's all good unless it's with a relative?

Re:understandably? (1)

MemoryDragon (544441) | about 7 years ago | (#19938967)

Well the biological aspects aside (which are obvious to anyone in the northern hemisphere), sex with a relative used to be quite a common phenomenon and still is in certain societies. The classical example for this in our societies history is the classical inbreeding of the so called blue blood, which in the end resulted in a degenaration and inherited siknesses among our "beloved" former overlords. Moral values probably is one of the most diversive things on this planet.

Re:understandably? (4, Insightful)

ScentCone (795499) | about 7 years ago | (#19938521)

Remember, morality is relative

Relative to what?

Reality isn't very relative. A system of values ("morality") that's grounded in reality and reason is fairly straightforward. People can (and of course, do) certainly dream up philosophical frameworks based on all-powerful invisible friends that still dole out the occasional case of childhood cancer just to keep us all on our toes, and operate as if some magic representation of your firing synapses are going to keep echoing through time after the meat computer that allowed them to come up with that bit of whimsy in the first place is being eaten by worms... but certain moral decisions that are anchored in imaginary consequences (or the lack of them) aren't "relative" - they're wrong. They may frequently overlap with a framework based on reason and reality, but they're going to suffer the rot of mixed premises, and the symptoms of that are the attempts by their holders to act in accordance with contradictions... which can't exist, and which produce sometimes tragic results.

Re:understandably? (1)

The Living Fractal (162153) | about 7 years ago | (#19938711)

Einstein would've probably taken offense to your statement that reality isn't relative, but I agree with your post. Also, I wouldn't necessarily call moral decisions wrong per se, but misguided. In truth, you could make a decision based on ethereal moral values which is a 'right' decision, even though you made have made the decision for the 'wrong' reasons -- though based on your previous statements I would venture to say you probably lean towards a deterministic philosophy (meat computer..) thus negating the ability to truly 'decide' anything and rather being determined based on the intrinsic flow of space and time through which we all find ourselves moving.

Then again, this is only about pornography, which is my mind is a natural thing. Or is it?

Re:understandably? (5, Insightful)

smallfries (601545) | about 7 years ago | (#19938735)

Well done you. You've described why your own view of reality is an objective fact that everyone could base their own morality on. You're in popular company there, with many dictatorships, religions and cults. But most people are capable of seeing that their own subjective view of objective reality differs from other peoples. Hence, morality being relative to the observer. Sure, for most of the big life and death questions most people's view of morality overlaps, but that doesn't make it an absolute.

How is that autism working out for ya?

PS The idea that morality is timeless and external to the human race pretty much died out with Kant.

Re:understandably? (2, Interesting)

ScentCone (795499) | about 7 years ago | (#19938889)

You've described why your own view of reality is an objective fact that everyone could base their own morality on.

Nonsense. I've asserted that reality is what reality is, and it doesn't give a damn whether, or how well, or in what way I perceive it. The better one is equipped to grasp reality (through critical thinking, better tools like the scientific method, etc) the less that wishful/magical thinking tends to drive one's perceptions. I don't CARE if someone's born-of-ignorance (or foisted-on-them-by-supersitious-parents) misunderstanding of reality causes them to embrace the I'll-get-40-virgins-if-I-die-killing-YOU view of the world, or if someone thinks that the main reason not to rob their neighbor - rather than being the rational understanding that it's ultimately a self-destructive act - is because they're sure they'll burn in the classical Christian hell. I mean, I care in the sense that people with those world views impact my life, and their poorly-wrought decisions are something about which I may need to be aware... but I don't care, academically. That doesn't change reality. No matter how bent they are in their ability to grasp causal relationships, and no matter how fanciful/delusional they are about their pet mythology, the universe doesn't give a crap one way or the other.

There is no pre-existing blanket-o'-morality waiting for you to see it and embrace it... there's just the universe, as it sits. It's utterly ambivilant and without regard for you, and only you can bring meaning to your own existence, or squander it, etc. BUT: a moral framework based on a misunderstanding (to say nothing of a willful denial) about the nature of reality is, by its nature, flawed. I don't really care about Kant, one way or the other. You don't need to make this that complicated. When you build some BS about the universe into your approach to carrying on within the universe, you're lying to yourself and producing a value system that is, to that same degree of BS-inclusion, a failure. Will you probably still do most macro-level things in the same way? You'd think so, but not everyone does.

Re:understandably? (1, Troll)

CdBee (742846) | about 7 years ago | (#19938703)

If you're an American or Western European your morality's probably a hell of a lot more lenient than that imposed from within Nigeria - the country's spiritual ethic seems to be firmly under the control of either radical Islamists in some areas and the kind of Christian churchmen who even Genghis Khan would consider to be a bit right-wing (death to gays, no women prists, etc) everywhere else!

A little big of filtering might save those kids from getting in very serious trouble with their local moral taleban

Re:understandably? (2, Insightful)

Kjella (173770) | about 7 years ago | (#19938833)

Look, while different cultures have different opinions on what should be blocked, I think *every* culture agrees that the Internet as-is, unfiltered is not safe for minors, unless you're one of those laizze-faire parents that think all forms of age limits on movies, games, pornography and so on are bunk. For example I've seen raunchier pics that Janet Jackson's nipple on the front page of our national newspapers (not to mention the nipple itself enlarged when it was news) but that doesn't mean we think showing preteeners group sex orgies is ok. Probably neither does Nigeria.

Re:understandably? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19938995)

Look, while different cultures have different opinions on what should be blocked, I think *every* culture agrees that the Internet as-is, unfiltered is not safe for minors

Safe? They're safer on the Internet than they are walking to school.

Chat-room stalkers and sexual predators are a separate issue, but I don't think anyone ever died from looking at porn.

huh (5, Interesting)

nomadic (141991) | about 7 years ago | (#19938433)

I don't know why the OLPC project is giving internet access anyway. If I were them I'd create a closed network with educational sites alone. They don't need access to the internet universe.

Re:huh (2, Insightful)

Socguy (933973) | about 7 years ago | (#19938641)

On the whole you may be right. However, I do remember that one of the goals was to allow farmers and independent business people to access the internet to market their products worldwide and gather information regarding their occupation. Besides, with all the negative comments I've just read on /. regarding censorship, how would an isolated network of approved information be any different than applying filters? Add to that any complaints that poor countries are being held back from the internet and a separate network may not be worth the effort.

Think of the children!! (3, Insightful)

Cynical_Dude (548704) | about 7 years ago | (#19938441)

Don't forget to export your morality with the laptops.

Thanks, thats exactly where this is heading (1)

BibelBiber (557179) | about 7 years ago | (#19938489)

Never trust anybody to meet your own morality standards. When you ship the internet to the third world, make sure they only see what _you_ want them to see.

Re:Think of the children!! (1)

dAzED1 (33635) | about 7 years ago | (#19938545)

"insightful?" How is this post "insightful?"

The very act of what they're doing is exporting their morality. The OLPC folks think it is morally wrong for some people to be so poor, they don't have access to things which, in today's day and age, are considered completely necessary for success. They have moral qualms with the disparity of knowledge, wealth, etc that their program seeks, as a moral imperitive, to lessen to some degree.

So you don't want the OLPC program to exist at all?

Re:Think of the children!! (1)

merreborn (853723) | about 7 years ago | (#19938571)

Many of the areas of the world these things are going to are generally *less* liberal about sex than we are -- e.g. several are predominantly Muslim.

Re:Think of the children!! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19938755)

Many of the areas of the world these things are going to are generally *less* liberal about sex than we are -- e.g. several are predominantly Muslim.

Then I'm all for shoving some of our morality down their throats. And my "our" I mean mine: sex is good, censorship is bad, and god does not exist.

Re:Think of the children!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19938577)

Hm. It's my understanding that Africa on the whole is very conservative on sex issues, and the political systems there are such that you can easily undo a world of good if you let a perceived threat stand. Sounds more like diplomacy than cultural imperialism.

I almost did a spit-take (1)

j0e_average (611151) | about 7 years ago | (#19938445)

This is why as kids we couldn't look at National Geographic issues without being supervised.
Ha! National Geographic IS porn for Nigerian kids!

Oh Yeah! Look at the hangers on that one!

"Nigerian Children" (0, Offtopic)

nlitement (1098451) | about 7 years ago | (#19938455)

Why are "children" capitalized? Is "Nigerian Children" some kind of a scammer group? What a funny name..

And in further news... (1)

dpbsmith (263124) | about 7 years ago | (#19938465)

...it will emerge that the pornographic material the kids were browsing was J. D. Salinger's "The Catcher in the Rye," Titian's and Disney's "The Little Mermaid." [wikipedia.org]

Oops, should've pressed Preview (1)

dpbsmith (263124) | about 7 years ago | (#19938483)

Sorry, Disney... I meant J. D. Salinger's "The Catcher in the Rye," Titian'sVenus d'Urbino [wikipedia.org] and Disney's "The Little Mermaid."

Well, you made two vaid points (1)

Flying pig (925874) | about 7 years ago | (#19938601)

First, it's very easy to link to pictures of naked women on the Internet. And second, any society that wants to prevent children from looking at Titians has something very, very wrong indeed with it. Don't get me wrong; I don't believe anybody ought to be allowed to profit from the depiction of sexual cruelty and violence. But the fuss that some factions in the US make about a bare nipple or two makes the US look ridiculous in most of the developed world. So don't apologise to Disney for accidentally linking them with a great picture. Apologise to the shade of Titian for accidentally linking him with Disney.

Perhaps it was not their intent? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19938473)

Has anyone thought that perhaps they didn't seek out porn, but it's so common and easier to access than most legitimate content?

Therapy (3, Insightful)

Brian Ribbon (986353) | about 7 years ago | (#19938503)

"A rep from OLPC said, understandably, that the laptops would now be fitted with filters."

I think they should also send out therapists. Those children will clearly be traumatised by viewing evil images of naked women.

Censorship in this case is wrong. (5, Insightful)

3seas (184403) | about 7 years ago | (#19938551)

There is an AIDs issue to deal with here!

A question to ask: Does porn help promote AIDS with viewers or help to demote it?

Perhaps there is an age of threshold but that is something that should be determined by the current living environment.

So what is an indicator of that threshold? What gave the kids the idea of looking for porn on the internet in the first place? Seems to me the threshold was already passed before they looked for it on the internet.

I'm almost 50 years old and my email is filtered, not by my choice, such that I still get the porn promotion emails but the urls are changed to be random character strings. Whether or not I would access such sites is not the issue.

The issue is of censorship of what is in fact a part of human nature.

If you make something as natural as sex bad then you'll guarantee the typical rebellious teen age person will find a way. And maybe that way is such an act as to spread disease and unwanted pregnancies.

What can porn teach? proper safe sex? It can perhaps remove some level of curiosity ...

But porn or not, there is the natural human sex drive. Deny it and you'll have problems develop from ignorance and un-natural guilt. Such acts as rape included.

And how about the history of porn? What can it teach? The dangers of AIDs and other STDs?

If kids already know to look for porn on the internet, maybe its time the subject matter be properly addressed instead of being swept under the rug filter.

The biggest problem, the biggest contributing factor with the spread of AIDs in Africa, is ignorance.

Wait a minute, I live in Atlanta, I'm white...

Forget everything I said above.....
     

Re:Censorship in this case is wrong. (1)

Adelle (851961) | about 7 years ago | (#19938815)

...Also, what if the "porn" being censored is actually a web site which explains how AIDS is spread. Filters have a lower IQ than the people recommending them.

obvious quote (1)

FlashBuster3000 (319616) | about 7 years ago | (#19938559)

[Fry, Prof. Farnsworth, etc. watching a documentory in the internet]
Fry: In my days, the internet was used only for porn.
Farnsworth: Yes, that's what it's like today.
[Scientists in the documentory begin to undress]

(translated out of memory)

Making them faster, stronger (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19938561)

Filters and other barriers will just place a new pressure on the users who will adapt to avoid the filters. This will turn out to be a never ending struggle since as long as there is a will, there is a way. What a stupid waste of resources.

I'm also pretty certain that this is not the first naked person these kids have seen, and I doubt its the first time they've seen someone have sex. I know that I saw both those things before I saw porn - so what exactly are we saving here?

I am sure pornography viewing has ruined lives and caused people problems before, and I'm sure it will in the future, but I like to think it had a positive role in my development. I began my serious computer usage the evening that I was at a friends house who showed me you could download naked pictures from BBSs. When I went home I immediately dug out the 1200 baud modem that had been gathering dust in the basement. I spent the next few days figuring out how to operate the terminal programs and finding software to view these magical gifs and jpegs (I had an Amiga, so I had to work a little harder). This pursuit of naked girls eventually led me to the internet, and shell accounts (which I used to grab the newsgroups) - back in the early 90s. So I'd like to say thank you to the women who posed naked for a couple hundred bucks, if I could buy you all a round of beers I would.

is that it ? (3, Insightful)

rs232 (849320) | about 7 years ago | (#19938563)

Is that all they can find to say about the OLPC. When was the last time you read a headline about schoolchildren viewing porn under MS Bisto? How about a story about an international news organization partnering up with US cable company's to deliver quality porn to cable and satellite subscribers. Here in Euroland we can always can rely on Murdochs Sky Adult channels.

Comcast cashing in on porn [sfgate.com]

AT&T porn channel challenged by religious investors [theregister.co.uk]

All we need now is OLPC contributes to a) terrorism, b) money laundering and c) contributes to third world poverty. Scratch the last one, its the GPL that does that [techworld.com] , according to Jonathan Schwartz.

Porn indicates freedom, freedom implies porn (3, Insightful)

Djatha (848102) | about 7 years ago | (#19938579)

Watching porn by those childres is a positive sign. It clearly is an indication that they are able to connect to the world-wide community and explore their new freedom the internet gives them. Clearly, they took initiative to find new things and porn may be a first, but I am certain that they will use their laptops to explore other areas of the internet, freedom and knowledge.

The article is tendentious, characterising the whole OLPC project as a failure because children use their laptop to look for porn. As if that is the only thing they will do with it. But it get worse: they want to filter the contents of the internet. Censoring the internet, limiting the freedom of these children. Instead of the possibility to gain unlimited access to information, they get (state/organisation) controlled access.

I thought the idea of this OLPC project was to close the digital divide. Instead, these kids get only a surrogate. Charity comes with a morality, hypocrites!

Porn indicates freedom, freedom implies porn.

Good! (2, Funny)

Tribbin (565963) | about 7 years ago | (#19938587)

We will see a tremendous AIDS drop within a few decades.

Sexy Asian girls to the rescue! (1)

coren2000 (788204) | about 7 years ago | (#19938607)

Maybe the sexy Asian girls can now help the Nigerians get their money safely out of the country.

And coming soon to Slashdot (1)

dgun (1056422) | about 7 years ago | (#19938609)

OLPC Used to Pirate Music

RIAA files suit against hundreds of third world OLPC children

they might as well (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19938631)


after all sending Email or IM from Nigeria is as good as useless thanks to their brethrens 419 attempts
just about every corp i have worked with blocks ALL Nigerian originated email, no exceptions
if you are a freemail provider iam suprised you just dont block all Nigerian web access as the legitimate users must be a tiny percentage of
their userbase and every 419 sent from your service puts you deeper into the blackholes
i already block Nigeria from all our web services due to abuse, its just not worth the hassle

sad really, give them access to the world and the first thing they want to do is steal and scam instead of directing that thinking into opening a store or selling products/crafts/services legally

there really is no helping people sometimes

The Internets Is Like A Bunch Of Tubes (2, Funny)

NeverVotedBush (1041088) | about 7 years ago | (#19938633)

Turgid, erect, throbbing, tubes...

I guess old Senator what's his name was right, eh kiddies? ;-)

Well duh! (1)

Fractal Dice (696349) | about 7 years ago | (#19938635)

Opening new forms of communication is always going to result a wild rush of memes, propaganda and fetishes until the culture adapts, whether its porn, religion, radical hatred or lolcats.

They're learning... (1)

thatskinnyguy (1129515) | about 7 years ago | (#19938637)

... about the mating rituals of the North American albino people!

This indicates a larger problem (1)

tlevine (863948) | about 7 years ago | (#19938647)

Not completely on topic, but if looking at porn is a problem, maybe we should figure out why people are doing it rather than just punishing people who look at or restricting it. Alfie Kohn has written a lot on how rewards and punishments don't work.

I'm sure the kids are doing other stuff with the computers too anyway--stuff that is more generally accepted.

Re:This indicates a larger problem (1)

NeverVotedBush (1041088) | about 7 years ago | (#19938671)

"I'm sure the kids are doing other stuff with the computers too anyway--stuff that is more generally accepted."

Like masturbation?

Actually, I don't understand (5, Interesting)

Tim C (15259) | about 7 years ago | (#19938677)

Could someone explain to me, preferably without recourse to religious argument, what is wrong with these kids viewing porn? I mean, they're actively seeking it out, and so must already be interested, so you can't argue that the laptops are somehow corrupting them - they're already corrupt (by that definition)...

Really? (1)

Aetuneo (1130295) | about 7 years ago | (#19938681)

I would be more surprised if it wasn't. And, besides the fact that it's about a cheap computer, how is this news? Every other type of computer in the world, over the last, say, 5 or 10 years, has been used by someone, somewhere, to browse porn. Would it be news if someone used a dell, or a mac, to browse porn?

Humanity (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19938689)

Surprise, Nigerians are human (and horny), too. What's wrong with that? The topic is brought up as if somehow these unfortunate people are "ungrateful" for their gift of technology.

Stupid Liberals (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19938767)

Welcome to the world

This is WRONG! (1)

janrinok (846318) | about 7 years ago | (#19938775)

I object to the inclusion of filters by the OLPC. What is required in this instance is that the children be educated as to what is expected of them, learning what is right and wrong, personal responsibility etc. Who decides what the filters should filter? The US? Does that mean that sites discussing evolution should now be denied to Nigerian children?. Or how about letting a strict Muslim nation choose? Then we can ban cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed. Or how about Russia or China? I'm sure that they will always want the world to see only the good side of the West. The filters can be applied only, in this instance, by the Nigerian Government as they are best able to decide what should be permitted on computers used by their school children. But the choice should not rest with the OLPC aid group otherwise the computers could easily become nothing more than a convenient method of disseminating one country's specific viewpoint rather than letting children learn for themselves. By all means provide the computers but no-one should dictate to the recipients what web sites they may visit and which ones are banned. Assist other countries, but don't tell them what they should do. After all, we don't like being told what to do by someone else, why should they?

Dont blame the technology (1)

bl8n8r (649187) | about 7 years ago | (#19938825)

Ignorance in the supervision is where the blame lies. It's the same as if you gave a child a blowtorch to light a barbecue and the kid burns down the garage in the process. Only an idiot blames the torch.

Re:Dont blame the technology (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19938853)

"Only an idiot blames the torch."

Jack Thompson blames Tomb Raider. There were torches in the game, and now pixelantes all over the world are burning down garages.

Man, this is teaching these kids coordination! (1)

antifoidulus (807088) | about 7 years ago | (#19938867)

One hand to turn the crank, and the other to well, slide the rod... truly an amazing feat!

exactly .... (1)

ryanw (131814) | about 7 years ago | (#19938883)

Why do children need laptops anyway? People think that technology is power. Knowledge is power. People think that technology is knowledge. So you hand these kids a laptop and expect them to then become knowledge able. Personally I think that education has gone down hill ever since technology has been allowed in the classrooms.

When doing research in a library (with physical books) you'll probably stumble across 15 different topics and learn several things rather than just immediately finding that paragraph you need to quote about the topic you're researching.

Sure, technology brings precision and ease. But the person driving doesn't learn anything. They just learn what questions to ask and where to find information. I suppose the argument could be made that if you know where to find it, then you know everything. I personally would feel like a moron if I couldn't answer any questions if my internet died.

DRM and now censorware (1)

J'raxis (248192) | about 7 years ago | (#19938979)

So not only is this project a major supporter of digital rights management, but now it's going to be supporting censorware, too? Am I the only one who sees how dangerous this project is on the whole?

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