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Next Generation Zune Coming for Holiday Season

Zonk posted about 7 years ago | from the just-what-we-all-wanted dept.

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thefickler writes "Microsoft has confirmed the existence and coming launch of the long rumored Zune 2.0 or 2nd generation Zune, and it appears that Microsoft will expand the Zune family with new styles, sizes, and price points. 'Future Zune products will feature podcasting support and expanded video support. The Zune will also move into other geographic markets when Microsoft feels it has an appealing product to offer those demographics. Perhaps most importantly of all, the representative mentioned that Microsoft will build on the wireless support. Maybe we'll finally have the freedom of synching our digital audio players via wi-fi. The rep didn't mention anything specific about Microsoft's rumored answer to the iPod Shuffle. But interesting rumors from sources considered "reliable" point to a very innovative product.'"

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From TFA: (-1, Troll)

Whiney Mac Fanboy (963289) | about 7 years ago | (#19951643)

Maybe we'll finally have the freedom of synching our digital audio players via wi-fi.

I doubt it. The record companies won't like the sounds of that. People might share their music wirelessly!

Sounds like good things are coming to the anti-Apple DAP crowd (which includes me).

Yeeesh, looking to MS to improve on Apple products? I think you're better off looking towards east asia.

Re:From TFA: (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19951705)

stop being such a typical fanboi. i know you think your nick gives you the right to be but it's boring and boorish.

Re:From TFA: (1, Insightful)

Surlyboi (96917) | about 7 years ago | (#19951735)

You must be new here. WMF is, if anything, the anti-mac fanboy.

Re:From TFA: (1)

Heembo (916647) | about 7 years ago | (#19951897)

That's Steve Jobs secret sig. You didn't know? *waves to Steve, nice black polo you got there, bub!*

With faltering businesses... (4, Insightful)

denttford (579202) | about 7 years ago | (#19951663)

When in doubt, spend.

(also applies to politics)

That will fire things up. (4, Insightful)

twitter (104583) | about 7 years ago | (#19952067)

At least that's what Roughly Drafted told me [bayimg.com] .

Sometimes, spending is just throwing good money after bad. They can't make Zune a winner because rented and dissapearing music just aren't cool. Even less cool is the idea that billboards will be able to "squirt" adverts onto your player or what your player might tell them in return. Minority Report was supposed to be a horror story, not a business model.

Re:That will fire things up. (5, Interesting)

Osty (16825) | about 7 years ago | (#19952201)

They can't make Zune a winner because rented and dissapearing music just aren't cool.

On the other hand, "rented" music allows you to sample a much wider variety of music than if you had to pay for it all. $15 will buy you 15 songs on iTunes forever, or it will buy you an "infinite" (limited by what's available on the Zune Marketplace) amount of music for one month. If you like the music, you can always buy it. Personally, the music subscription is what swayed me toward Zune rather than iPod. Well, that and I can't stand Apple's software on Windows. If you're going to make a Windows app, make a damn Windows app. Don't port an OS X app over to Windows, because not only is the look and feel all wrong but the functionality of "standard" controls is different as well. I don't expecto to have to ctrl-click or shift-click on a button in Windows to make some action happen, but that's exactly how the iTunes software works. Microsoft got it right with Office on OS X, building an interface and behaviors specific to OS X. Why can't Apple reciprocate and make proper Windows apps?

Even less cool is the idea that billboards will be able to "squirt" adverts onto your player or what your player might tell them in return.

So turn off the wireless when you're not actively looking for or sharing with other Zune players. As a bonus, you'll get a longer battery life with wireless off.

With faltering willpower (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19952275)

"When in doubt, spend.

(also applies to politics)"

When in doubt, give up.

(Also applies to cynical slashdotters)

We won't get fooled again (2, Insightful)

kimvette (919543) | about 7 years ago | (#19951671)

They should use The Who's "We Won't Get Fooled Again" for their ad campaign in a form of irony.

I mean, is anyone really going to buy Zune 2.0? After all, it didn't work with the DRM scheme standard Microsoft was pushing, is inferior in every way compared to Apple's iPod, and was a flop in the marketplace, especially when compared to its competitors such as the iPod.

tagged "playsforsurenot"

Re:We won't get fooled again (2, Insightful)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | about 7 years ago | (#19951733)

is inferior in every way compared to Apple's iPod,

Not in every way, it has a larger screen, and is available for a little cheaper at many places. I hear that it has better contextual menuing. That's not very much to go on though.

Re:We won't get fooled again (1, Funny)

jcr (53032) | about 7 years ago | (#19951765)

My latest iPod has a large screen than the Zune. Of course, it's also my phone.

I'm sure the next model of iPod will have a 480x320 display, too.

-jcr

Re:We won't get fooled again (2, Informative)

rampant mac (561036) | about 7 years ago | (#19951843)

"it has a larger screen"


But it has the same resolution as the video iPod's screen.

Ha ha, bigger is not better. (2, Informative)

twitter (104583) | about 7 years ago | (#19952109)

"it has a larger screen" But it has the same resolution as the video iPod's screen.

Bigger is always better until you try to put it in your pocket. Is it also thicker and have square corners? A larger battery with less life? Woops, I think that would cover all the bases.

Oh no (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19952395)

Ali-Baba, the monitor [slashdot.org] is missing!

Re:Ha ha, bigger is not better. (1)

Breakfast Pants (323698) | about 7 years ago | (#19952545)

Yes, I really hate being able to replace my (admittedly brown) battery.

Its really not _That_ bad. (2, Informative)

aywwts4 (610966) | about 7 years ago | (#19952663)

Personaly, (I hated the zune, I ridiculed people who got them) But when someone was going to sell me their brand new one for 70 bucks I couldnt say no. (my ipod was broken at the time)

And relucantly I am starting to admit it isnt that bad.

A quick breakdown of what I am impressed with.
-The audio quality is actualy quite good, much crisper and clearer than my 4th gen ipod.
-Clicky buttons are excellent! I keep it in a little felt sock, and I can turn the volume up, and change tracks all through a layer of clothing, without taking it out of the container.
-Being able to easily set shuffle between artists, albums, genras, etc works really well.
-If you are on the album view, pressing left or right will take you to that artist's other albums, its more convenient than I expected.
-And the locked down interface you have to sync it with... Errors and crashes aside, is very close to drag and drop, (disable auto sync) find your music folder, it finds album art, drag the albums or artists you want onto the zune, click sync, and watch it upload.
-Being able to turn off random with 3 clicks, instead of having to go back to the root menu and go to shuffle, and turn it off, then go back into songs.

The bad is the battery life is... not very good, and it doesnt seem to turn on when I want it, and there is no audible confirmation you turned the beast off. And the sync software, while not as bad as itunes, I wish it were open (or cracked) so I could use whatever I want... Oh and the obvious wifi doesnt really exist. Its worthless in every way.

Personaly I would take a creative any day of the week, but since those are never sold for good prices used, I would sadly and reluctantly take a zune over an ipod, Ipods just do so many annoying things.

It's like the Xbox 360 (1, Flamebait)

Twiceblessedman (590621) | about 7 years ago | (#19952465)

Spend enough money and you'll eventually get some idiots liking your products.

Re:We won't get fooled again (1)

aichpvee (631243) | about 7 years ago | (#19952511)

The appropriate tag would have been !playsforsure.

expanding customer base? (0, Troll)

poetmatt (793785) | about 7 years ago | (#19951673)

I think I just heard the zune customer base may jump from 5 users to 6 this holiday season. Confirmed?

Re:expanding customer base? (0, Offtopic)

ceeam (39911) | about 7 years ago | (#19952033)

AKA luserbase.

Re:expanding customer base? (-1, Troll)

sethstorm (512897) | about 7 years ago | (#19952149)

Thought that was the ipod userbase's name.

Re:expanding customer base? (1)

Repton (60818) | about 7 years ago | (#19952323)

Nah, they'll just be teaming up with McDonalds on marketing.

zune vs IPOD (4, Interesting)

Riverman5 (1018024) | about 7 years ago | (#19951701)

I did my own comparison of the Zune with the Ipod last Christmas, when those two items were pretty much what everyone was buying, and I decided the Zune was better. Bigger screen, less cost.... that about sums it up for me, although I have the Ipod video, I never use it. Seems the only advantage it has is styling, although that's a light point IMO.

Re:zune vs IPOD (4, Informative)

hobo sapiens (893427) | about 7 years ago | (#19951805)

I am sure that when compared to the iPod, it's a decent product at least from a technical perspective. I always hear people talk about the better screen. Of course it has things like wi-fi ability, etc. The problem is not the device itself, it's the company pushing it. You may get a better product (although, let's be honest, marginally better) but MSFT cripples the dang thing with DRM. It's the RIAA's dream device, so buried in DRM that it's capabilities count for nothing, since you cannot really take advantage of them.

I do not know much about the actual hardware versus an iPod, so I cannot really comment on that. I am just talking about obvious hardware (like the screen) and features. I have always said that if someone could figure out how to hack a Zune so that one could take advantage of the features, I'd want one. Good capabilities, it's just that MSFT totally shackles it.

It's a shame really (from MSFT's perspective). In their greed and blatant pandering to the RIAA, they missed a valuable opportunity.

Re:zune vs IPOD (4, Insightful)

quacking duck (607555) | about 7 years ago | (#19952187)

The problem is not the device itself, it's the company pushing it. You may get a better product (although, let's be honest, marginally better) but MSFT cripples the dang thing with DRM. It's the RIAA's dream device, so buried in DRM that it's capabilities count for nothing, since you cannot really take advantage of them.

I hadn't thought about this before, but considering how some people are boycotting any CD put out by RIAA members (with help from RIAA Radar [riaaradar.com] ), they should be boycotting the Zune as well, seeing as how Microsoft kicks back a small amount to Universal Music [cnn.com] for every Zune sold.

Microsoft sold out all consumers in a failed bid to give RIAA members teeth to demand an unjustified cut for every iPod sold, just when Apple was renegotiating licensing with the music labels. Now, you may argue that Apple's on "our side" only because it's best for their bottom line... but at least they're not actively against us in this battle! The least we can do is return the favour.

Re:zune vs IPOD (1)

ericdano (113424) | about 7 years ago | (#19952401)

Which explains why Universal decided not to agree to a long term contract with Apple on iTunes. Following that sort of reasoning, shouldn't the Oil companies get a percent of every car sold? Or Nike get a percent of every sock sold? Or maybe the RIAA should demand a fee for every car sold, cause they have CD players in them? Or maybe they should do the same from Sony, and any other company that makes something that plays music?

It is out of control.

I expect the Zune to be a non-issue when the next generation of iPods hits, which could be any time now. I used to see the Zune being pushed by Office Depot, but they don't anymore. The latest circular features SanDisk players.

Microsoft should just admit defeat, and move on.

Um.... (1)

msimm (580077) | about 7 years ago | (#19952355)

It was shit brown. And boxy. At best it was like a weird experiment or something MS marketing let escape. I'm assuming 2.0 will come in more flattering colors and we can actually play the features game. But honestly, 1.0 looks like it feel straight off the shelf at your local second-hand shop. Maybe underneath the mismatched leather shoes and broken football trophy.

Re:zune vs IPOD (0, Redundant)

tiffany98121 (1094419) | about 7 years ago | (#19952417)

how is the zune's drm crippling the device any more than apple's drm cripples the ipod? you are aware that both devices also play non drm'ed music, aren't you?

Styling counts ... (1)

twitter (104583) | about 7 years ago | (#19952127)

... when you try to put it in your pocket. Tell me more about that big screen, which is reported to have the same resolution as an iPod. Tell me about corners, weight, battery life, etc.

Re:Styling counts ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19952673)

Hi willy! Howz the family doing? Everything OK? The new addition doing well? Very good. Hey, how are the boyz in the LUG? Still giving you static?

Please write soon!

Re:zune vs IPOD (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19952249)

The size of the screen on a product like the ipod doesn't matter if they have the same resolution. You just end up holding the zune further away.

Re:zune vs IPOD (1)

ZachMG (1122511) | about 7 years ago | (#19952425)

since your not using the video can i have it? No seriously

Innovative?!! (0, Troll)

gooman (709147) | about 7 years ago | (#19951703)

rumors from sources considered "reliable" point to a very innovative product

GAAA! Don't do that! I just laughed milk through my nose.

Innovation and Microsoft... too funny.

Re:Innovative?!! (1)

thePsychologist (1062886) | about 7 years ago | (#19952065)

As usual, FUD. Here's some innovation for ya: "The player can't be turned on or off as it is always in the same state."

Innovative? (4, Funny)

superphreak (785821) | about 7 years ago | (#19951707)

a very innovative product.

As compared to what...? Vista?

Well... (1)

jd (1658) | about 7 years ago | (#19952199)

Maybe we could take out a Government grant [grantopedia.com] to research how innovative it is.

Re:Innovative? (1)

QuietLagoon (813062) | about 7 years ago | (#19952227)

Innovative means that it will look like a polished turd, instead of a plain turd.

Figures they'd announce this now (2, Funny)

Osty (16825) | about 7 years ago | (#19951709)

I just purchased the Halo 3 Zune, and have an appointment next week to get my car set up with an AUX input solution [dension.com] (Porsche's stupid MOST bus Becker head units don't have AUX inputs available as standard or an option). So of course they have to announce Zune 2.0 coming "before holiday season", which most likely means "August".

Hopefully the Zune 2.0 firmware will be pushed to current Zunes.

And I got yer slogan right here... (5, Funny)

hobo sapiens (893427) | about 7 years ago | (#19951721)

"It's the second generation Zune, taking failure to a whole new level!"

It will probably be incompatible with music from the 1G Zune, and won't work with Vista. In other words, nothing new here.

So MS is pretty content... (1)

sokoban (142301) | about 7 years ago | (#19951723)

to let apple be basically a generation ahead in the OS and portable electronics markets?

Kind of lame that this is the best an admitted member of the "anti-Apple DAP crowd" can come up with for an article of nearly pure speculation. Creative and Archos look like they have better iPod killer offerings than Microsoft.

Re:So MS is pretty content... (1)

Groggnrath (1089073) | about 7 years ago | (#19952005)

In my opinion, Creative is the only competitor Apple has for the iPod. The Zen series, and it's off chutes offer flexible, licence free, or licenced play. The only thing it lacks is videocasts of popular TV shows, and Zunes wireless "share" feature, which is overrated. Podcast compatibility would be nice too, Creative has it's own version, but it's pathetic compared to the iPod offerings.

Re:So MS is pretty content... (1)

RightSaidFred99 (874576) | about 7 years ago | (#19952061)

This is completely untrue. You're blinded by the big names. Cowon and Iriver both make very competitive products. I just bought a clix2, superior in almost every way to the nano.

Re:So MS is pretty content... (1)

rtb61 (674572) | about 7 years ago | (#19952455)

Actually the big competitor for the ipod is simply technological aggregation ie. a stand alone music player will just get absorbed as a feature in other products, like a phone/PDA. So zune version 2 makes about as much sense as, well, anything else ballmer comes up with, bascially none at all.

Re:So MS is pretty content... (0, Troll)

gig (78408) | about 7 years ago | (#19952419)

Why would you expect the biggest name in typewriter replacement to be competitive in consumer electronics? What has MS ever done that was not at least a generation behind? The Zune 1.0 was a Gigabeat 2.0.

Microsoft sells to IT and business, they have no idea about consumers. Why expect them to? Did you see some promise in the Zune or the Xbox that the buying public missed? The only good news on the Xbox is they won't have to repair all the unsold ones.

What Web browser are they going to put in the Zune? Pocket IE is baby Web but IE is Intel only and as we all know is a deeply integrated part of the Windows typewriter. Where is MS in Web 2.0? They're not in any position to compete with Apple or Google.

streaming (1)

TheSHAD0W (258774) | about 7 years ago | (#19951729)

I hope they revamp their wireless sharing system so people can play the music as it streams in; it seems silly to not have that feature.

Though I doubt Microsoft would drop their stupid DRM system, which is why I still wouldn't buy one...

Re:streaming (2, Funny)

superphreak (785821) | about 7 years ago | (#19952095)

it seems silly to not have that feature.
You must be new to Microsoft...

The festive holiday atmosphere (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19951731)

will be maintained with all new colors, "Beach Brown" being replaced by "Cranberry Mauve". Hug it! Hug your Zune!

New and improved (5, Funny)

eclectro (227083) | about 7 years ago | (#19951739)

Now!! With twice the squirt!!!

Re:New and improved (1)

JonathanR (852748) | about 7 years ago | (#19952113)

[insert Olestra joke here]

Question: (3, Funny)

RedSteve (690399) | about 7 years ago | (#19951761)

How do you improve upon brown? WIll it be puke green? Or puke orange?

Marketing (0, Flamebait)

boomgopher (627124) | about 7 years ago | (#19952409)

I'm convinced the brown thing was specifically to market to blacks and hispanic markets.

Re:Question: (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19952431)

Harvest Gold

Re:Question: (1)

boarsai (698361) | about 7 years ago | (#19952657)

How do you improve upon brown? WIll it be puke green? Or puke orange?

For shame on you! Do you know how many shades of brown there are? Microsoft haven't scratched the surface of all that is brown yet. I can't wait for the brown revolution of innovation that microsoft intends to squirt at us.

innovative? (1)

timmarhy (659436) | about 7 years ago | (#19951767)

attempting to copy an existing product, can never be considered innovative

Re:innovative? (1)

nihonjon (1128009) | about 7 years ago | (#19952195)

How about innovative through improvement? Like the Japanese making the TV have color and doing it cheaper than the US companies. Unfortunately for M$, the ipod is already color.

What does Fight Club have to say about this? (2, Funny)

thatskinnyguy (1129515) | about 7 years ago | (#19951779)

"Life is working jobs we hate to buy shit we don't need" -Tyler Durden I hope you're as enlightened as I am.

Superior, so what? (3, Insightful)

ameyer17 (935373) | about 7 years ago | (#19951791)

As long as the Zune's marketed by Microsoft and the iPod's marketed by Apple, the Zune is doomed because, let's face it, Apple's good at marketing, and Microsoft's good at forcing stuff down consumer's throats.

Why sync wirelessly? (1)

RalphBNumbers (655475) | about 7 years ago | (#19951799)

I'm still baffled as to why anyone would *want* to sync their mp3 player over wifi, given that you have to plug it in to charge it anyway.
Until they get wireless power into mp3 players, wireless syncing seems like a somewhat pointless feature, to be included for buzzword-compliance only.

And there are so many more interesting things you could do with wifi on an mp3 player too...
A relatively uncrippled pull-based local ad-hoc network (like iTunes sharing as opposed to Zune's heavily crippled push "squirting") would be an obvious win.
And net radio access would be nice as well.
Buying songs online could even work with a good enough interface (I doubt either current Zunes or iPods could make it a really enjoyable experience due to the limits of their controls, but the iPhone would do nicely.)

And that's not even mentioning more general-computing non-music tasks like web browsing and such...

Re:Why sync wirelessly? (2, Insightful)

Osty (16825) | about 7 years ago | (#19951911)

I'm still baffled as to why anyone would *want* to sync their mp3 player over wifi, given that you have to plug it in to charge it anyway. Until they get wireless power into mp3 players, wireless syncing seems like a somewhat pointless feature, to be included for buzzword-compliance only.

Think of a car application, where you have the Zune basically hardwired into your car audio. As such, it'd have power already, but you'd still have to remove it from the car in order to add new music. Being able to wirelessly sync would allow you to run the Zune app on a PC in your house and sync songs out to your car without having to take the Zune out of your car at all.

Re:Why sync wirelessly? (0)

xouumalperxe (815707) | about 7 years ago | (#19952157)

Ooooh, you have a wireless router in your garage?

Re:Why sync wirelessly? (1)

Osty (16825) | about 7 years ago | (#19952299)

Ooooh, you have a wireless router in your garage?

Close enough. My house's wireless router adequately covers my attached garage. It might be more difficult for someone living in an apartment, or a condo with detached parking. For most homeowners with wireless routers, I'd be surprised if their garage didn't have wireless coverage.

Re:Why sync wirelessly? (1)

larry bagina (561269) | about 7 years ago | (#19951947)

I don't know about you, but my computer is a virtual jungle of cables. Recharging does not mean connecting it to my computer. And that's especially the case for people who use their ipod/dap with speakers (bose ipod sound dock, etc).

Re:Why sync wirelessly? (2, Insightful)

R3d M3rcury (871886) | about 7 years ago | (#19952097)

I'm still baffled as to why anyone would *want* to sync their mp3 player over wifi, given that you have to plug it in to charge it anyway.
Well, I have an iPod nano. I love it. I only have to charge it maybe once every couple of weeks (I listen to it when I bike).

So I don't really need to charge it all that often. But it would be nice if I could sync it without having to plug it in.

Re:Why sync wirelessly? (3, Insightful)

Repton (60818) | about 7 years ago | (#19952309)

If your Nano did wireless synching, you'd be charging it more often than every two weeks...

Wireless music subscriptions. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19952347)

You're talking about buying music and about net radio - but you're forgetting that the Zune has a subscription music plan.

The best use of the WiFi is going to be to pay $15 a month (which is competitive with the Rhapsody and Yahoo music subscription plans) - and to allow you to stream whatever you want to the device, on demand.

That sounds like a killer app for a portable music player, if you ask me.

Re:Why sync wirelessly? (1)

stratjakt (596332) | about 7 years ago | (#19952539)

Simple. The only use I have for an iPod or Zune, is in my car. I would like to permanently install it there, and have it silently sync while it's in the driveway.

Re:Why sync wirelessly? (2, Informative)

GotenXiao (863190) | about 7 years ago | (#19952583)

The battery on my Archos 604 Wifi will survive transferring a few hundred meg of files from Not At My Computer(TM) without being plugged in.

Similarly, I can "stream" files over the wifi from any SMB share.

And since the 604 Wifi has Opera, I could browse to (almost) any online music shop and download tracks and play them.

Plus I can use the device as a wireless fileserver.

Unfortunately I haven't seen any reports of ShoutCAST working (although the new 605 Wifi has optional Youtube/Dailymotion support).

Oh, and touchscreen.

Well, better not buy one. (1)

E-Sabbath (42104) | about 7 years ago | (#19951803)

Hm. Well, if the _new_ one is coming out, why bother buying the old one, right? New one will be way better.

It's not like Apple could ever compete with a wireless iPod.

Re:Well, better not buy one. (1)

Osty (16825) | about 7 years ago | (#19951927)

Hm. Well, if the _new_ one is coming out, why bother buying the old one, right? New one will be way better.

From the article linked by the article, the Microsoft rep flat-out says that the new firmware will be pushed to old Zunes. Since there's no information about hardware updates other than the Shuffle-like Zune, if you're in the market for one there's no reason not to buy now. Then again, there may be a price drop on old versions, or there may be a new version with a bigger hard drive.

Dammit (2, Funny)

qualidafial (967876) | about 7 years ago | (#19951847)

I always buy stuff [hideapod.com] right before the new product lines get announced.

I never thought I'd feel bad for MS. (5, Insightful)

DwarfGoanna (447841) | about 7 years ago | (#19951877)

But I suspect by the time Zune is worthy of the "iPod Killer" moniker, Apple will have already killed the iPod themselves. Sure, they'll still be selling dedicated DAPs for a while to come, but I wouldn't be shocked if a midrange "good enough" iPhone changes the playing field there. Exactly what they did before with the mini/nano. One thing I find admirable about the new Apple is that they don't seem to give a shit about cutting into their own installed base with a product that fits the market better than what they had before. By the time MS gets this right, *the market they're after is going to liken the standalone DAP to monochrome displays and 200 songs.


*no, slashdot is not this market. I know.

It still won't... (2, Interesting)

Ice.Saoshyant (993846) | about 7 years ago | (#19951881)

...support any of Vorbis, FLAC, or Speex. Is nobody else worried about that?

In a word... (4, Funny)

thatskinnyguy (1129515) | about 7 years ago | (#19951937)

no.

Re:It still won't... (1)

tiffany98121 (1094419) | about 7 years ago | (#19952435)

and you know this how?

Zune 2.0 ? (0)

Saija (1114681) | about 7 years ago | (#19951909)

Microsoft has confirmed the existence and coming launch of the long rumored Zune 2.0 or 2nd generation Zune

But will it have rounded corners and gay colors?? ohh wait !!

My question is.. (1)

qualidafial (967876) | about 7 years ago | (#19951979)

So when can I buy a 2G Hide-a-Pod [hideapod.com] ?

Maybe They Could Just Mind Their Business (0, Flamebait)

twitter (104583) | about 7 years ago | (#19951993)

Maybe we'll finally have the freedom of synching our digital audio players via wi-fi.

If the pigopolists would just leave device makers alone, we'd already have such an obvious feature. Instead they pull stunts like this to limit device features and user choice. If M$ is first to market with a wifi enabled music player it can only be because of market manipulation like the above. [theregister.co.uk]

They won't really be first, though. Zaurus and other PDAs have had both free music players and wifi for years.

And Apple? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19952107)

So, is Apple a "pigopolist" too? Too bad their name doesn't have an 's' anywhere, otherwise you could use a dollar sign and feel really cool.

That little flamebait link of yours from the register (the register!) is interesting. None of that ever made it to production, did it? Looks to me it was a mistake. I wonder if you have a more reputable source? But still, what's the problem again?

how about offering something new?? (4, Interesting)

jgarra23 (1109651) | about 7 years ago | (#19952039)

I'm no fanboi. I'll give the Zune a chance when MS offers something that is better than the iPod. I'm not looking for something as good as the iPod or an iPod with BIGGER features. How about some real innovations like: -more HD space is always nice, how about beating Apple with a 100GB or 120GB Zune? :) -intelligent shuffle that actually uses play counts, last-played, ratings & play-selection-order (and who knows what else) to intuitively determine what songs would fit together? Sort of a moodlogic for people instead of idiots & jerks? -non-platform specific compatibility -better firmware customization (that iPod linux thing is a worthy try but come on) -something that doesn't look like a blatant ripoff of the iPod -custom codec installation -API for application construction & integration I could go on & on...

Podcasting (2, Funny)

bjackson1 (953136) | about 7 years ago | (#19952047)

Anyone else think it's funny that the Zune will support "Podcasting"?

Re:Podcasting (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19952231)

It's about as funny as iPods supporting "Windows."

Re:Podcasting (1)

networkzombie (921324) | about 7 years ago | (#19952371)

I'd buy a dozen if it would abolish the term Podcasting, although Zuncasting doesn't have as nice a ring to it.

Catchier than "zunesquirting", I suppose (n/t) (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19952685)

n/t

My zune is dead ;-) see pic (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19952057)

<http://www.flickr.com/photos/7707549@N05/87352336 1/>Dead Zune</a>

Re:My zune is dead ;-) see pic (1)

jgarra23 (1109651) | about 7 years ago | (#19952173)

Pls forgive me but that is not real I hope... :)

Advanced Release Schedule (1)

_Sprocket_ (42527) | about 7 years ago | (#19952063)

Maybe they can just get this "Zune 2.0" out next month so we'll still have time to get something good released by Christmas.

Podcasting Support (1)

Aetuneo (1130295) | about 7 years ago | (#19952093)

"Future Zune products will feature podcasting support and expanded video support. ..." So Zunes will have cameras and microphones in them, so that they can be used to make podcasts? And perhaps even the ability to upload the podcasts via WiFi ...

Hmmm.... (1)

plazman30 (531348) | about 7 years ago | (#19952119)

You realized you used Microsoft and innovative in the same sentence?

What were you thinking?

Is that even possible??

Andy

This made front page? (0, Troll)

Kazrael (918535) | about 7 years ago | (#19952143)

Does anyone actually care?

I have one... (5, Interesting)

InlawBiker (1124825) | about 7 years ago | (#19952177)

Believe it or not I won it at a charity auction. I was pretty excited to get it, my 2gb mobile player wasn't cutting it for long trips. Here's the truth - they did a good job with it. It's well made. The interface is solid, easy to use and intuitive. I didn't have to read the instructions to use it. The software works pretty well, but is a little confusing. When the Zune came out it'd have been pretty hard to F*** up. With all the money in the world and dozens of business cases to study it'd be pretty difficult to come out with an MP3 player that didn't do a passable job. The Zune did just that, and now true to Microsoft form 2.0 will come out, and then 3.0 and 4.0, and it'll continue to improve. If I were voting with my own money I'd have probably bought Creative's 30gb model, but in truth the Zune is pretty good at what it does. If you can live with people poking fun at you for owning it, go ahead and buy one. It only syncs with Windows, by the way.

Here it is... (1)

plowboylifestyle (862919) | about 7 years ago | (#19952185)

The Jesus Zune... time for someone somewhere to get excited about a product that is about to revolutionize the Zune market. I for one am selling my stock in other Zunes.

But... what is it?? (4, Insightful)

wvmarle (1070040) | about 7 years ago | (#19952257)

I just RTFA, and it sais NOTHING, and that is truly NOTHING, about what is really in the pipeline. Only lines like "it's going to be better", and "we're expanding it blah blah" with a lot of marketingspeak - but really nothing on the actual product. The only concrete product mentioned, the "Zune Shuffle" or whatever, also falls short of an actual description, let alone giving me the idea that it is reliable.

Sorry folks, nothing to see here, move along. Really, there is absolutely nothing.

The only thing about this article is that it keeps the buzz going, it keeps the people talking about this device. And guessing. Just guessing. Because there is nothing really said there, everything is just a guess.

Editors, please do your job, and don't put this kind of nonsense on the front page. It doesn't belong there. I'm really interested in tech news, and also what Microsoft is doing - even though I don't buy their products, they are one of the major forces in the computer world - but this is the least informative article ever.

Ah well, let the Microsoft bashing continue.

History repeats... (1)

Shayde (189538) | about 7 years ago | (#19952317)

And the same folks who didn't line up to buy Zune 1.0 will run right out and not line up for the next one.

And the next one. And the next one. And the next one.

Re:History repeats... (1)

freedom_india (780002) | about 7 years ago | (#19952443)

What does it matter if turd is yellow or brown and was passed in morning or evening?
Its still a turd.

Ah, naievete... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#19952447)

"Maybe we'll finally have the freedom of synching our digital audio players via wi-fi."

"Freedom"? From MICROSOFT? You're kidding, right? Microsoft doesn't know the meaning of the word.

Will it run uClinux? (1)

maciarc (1094767) | about 7 years ago | (#19952493)

Probably won't if it goes GPLv3...

Don't believe the negativity (0, Flamebait)

Hey Apples (1115665) | about 7 years ago | (#19952549)

If you get past the blind Microsoft hating and Apple fanboy-ism, the Zune is a pretty descent MP3 player. Not the best, not earth-shattering, but not bad either. It's certainly not worth the torrential smear campaign and avalanche of negativity. Last holiday season I went through and critiqued over a dozen MP3 players. I compared everything from features, battery life, cost, and size. After I crunched the numbers it was surprising to see that the Zune stood up on its own.

Zune problems (2, Informative)

DECS (891519) | about 7 years ago | (#19952557)

One embarrassing footnote to the "million Zunes sold" meme is that few of those sales have been to individuals. The majority of Zunes are still sitting on store shelves. We know this because Microsoft managed to shovel an excess inventory of at least 4 million Xbox 360s on retailers. That fact that Microsoft hasn't been able to fake similar levels of sales for the Zune indicates that sales of the Zune are REALLY low.

More Articles on Zune [google.com] .

Meanwhile, Apple shipped several times as many iPhones in its first weekend, selling it only in its own retail stores and AT&T shops. That says something about Apple and Microsoft's ability to retail.

Apple has also been selling iPods at a profit; Microsoft's Zune + Xbox division has lost BILLIONS every year. Think about that for a moment.

-
Ten Fake Apple Scandals: 1 - Phony Rage About iPhone Price and Profits [roughlydrafted.com]
Reality: The iPhone costs less than any smartphone, and will have a higher resale value after two years than any phone. Here's why.

Tag (1)

Fizzl (209397) | about 7 years ago | (#19952595)

whogivesashit

Poor niggers (-1, Flamebait)

Fizzl (209397) | about 7 years ago | (#19952631)

The Zune will also move into other geographic markets when Microsoft feels it has an appealing product to offer those demographics.

We're going to make it big time when the sand niggers decide to buy Zune instead of three years supply of rice!
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