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$150 Linux Laptop for the Masses

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 6 years ago | from the on-the-cheap dept.

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Xemu writes "Inspired by Negroponte's laptop for children, the Swedish company Medison is now taking orders for their US$150 Linux laptop, the Medison Celebrity. The laptop is a 1.5 GHz Celeron M 370 with 14 inch screen, wireless network and it comes with Fedora Red Hat pre-installed." Update 2035 GMT by SM: As many readers have pointed out, the more you dig into the details of this company the more fishy it starts to seem. I would suggest any potential buyers be wary on this one.

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434 comments

Fedora Red Hat (3, Funny)

spiritraveller (641174) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984631)

That's nothing special.

On my laptop, I am running Fedora Red Hat CentOS.

Re:Fedora Red Hat (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19984669)

Aren't Fedora and Centos two totally different things? Fedora is what used to be the standard redhat distro for desktops and CentOS is a recompiled version of Redhat Enterprise with all the redhat logos removed?

Re:Fedora Red Hat (4, Funny)

spiritraveller (641174) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984977)

"Aren't Fedora and Centos two totally different things?"

Yes, as are Fedora Red Hat and Fedora Red Hat CentOS.

Fedora Red Hat CentOS is my special creation. I mix the artwork of Fedora, Red Hat AND CentOS.

In this way, I can have the stability of Red Hat, the currentness of Fedora, and the lack of mandatory expensive support contracts which makes CentOS such a great option.

All of this in one distribution. You should try it. It's the next big thing. Honest.

Re:Fedora Red Hat (-1, Redundant)

spiritraveller (641174) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984773)

It's probably not fashionable to complain about how your own posts get modded, but I'm curious...

How is it possible for a first post to be "Redundant"?

Re:Fedora Red Hat (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19984913)

Don't worry. All redundant moderations will be meta-moderated as unfair. Anything other than a verbatim parroting of a previous post is NOT REDUNDANT!!

Re:Fedora Red Hat (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19985013)

Don't worry. All redundant moderations will be meta-moderated as unfair. Anything other than a verbatim parroting of a previous post is NOT REDUNDANT!!


Not to worry. Meta-moderators will mark all redundant mods as unfair. It's NOT REDUNDANT unless it's a word-for-word copy of the previous post!!

Que onhda (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19984633)

First fucking MX POST

Re:Que onhda (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19984995)

First fucking MX POST

Yeah, but not first post.

Wassamatter? Not quick enough to get first post?

Ha ha, you faggot loser!!

THE OLPC IS A FAILURE! (-1, Flamebait)

ringbarer (545020) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984637)

Which self-respecting internet pedophile wants to groom ugly nigger kids?

Re:THE OLPC IS A FAILURE! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19984715)

Depends. Do they have BIG COCKS? I need a BIG COCK.

Sure... (5, Funny)

Shadow Wrought (586631) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984651)

But will it run Li- Oh. Right. Never mind.

Sure...Vigilante OS. (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19984731)

At least you didn't say "But does it run Windows?". You'd never get out of this forum alive.

Re:Sure...Vigilante OS. (1, Offtopic)

macdaddy357 (582412) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984805)

It'll run XP with a ram upgrade to 512MB, but it will never run Vista with that CPU and GPU. That would be like using a compact pickup as the cab of a tractor trailer.

laptop for children truly !! (5, Funny)

middlemen (765373) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984663)

Among all available distributions, the company has installed Fedora, which by default does not come with installations of mplayer and other music software and libraries. This is a truly educational laptop where children will have to learn to use Linux and install software just to reach the end goal of watching porn. Finally, someone is not thinking of but thinking for the children.

Re:laptop for children truly !! (0, Redundant)

BecomingLumberg (949374) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984939)

Or, you can just install that stuff...

Re:laptop for children truly !! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19985311)

That was his point... Children will have to learn how to do it.

Get them out of the way (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19984675)

But does it run... Oh nevermind. I just read the summary.
But imagine a beowulf cluser of these!
In soviet Sweden, laptop sells you.
Step 1: Sell laptop for $150
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit!!!
 
Any more I missed?

Re:Get them out of the way (-1, Offtopic)

Palshife (60519) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984797)

Hot grits, Natalie Portman, You Must Be New Here, a crack about not having a girlfriend, blaming the editors, calling for a tag, BSD is dying, goatse, GNAA, YHBT HAND, etc.

Re:Get them out of the way (0, Offtopic)

xtracto (837672) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984821)

Breasts!
Which in the case of the OLPC it seems the problem *has* been solved!

Re:Get them out of the way (0, Offtopic)

metlin (258108) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984825)

Yes.

Only old people (in Korea, no less) need a $150 laptop.

And can this laptop show me Natalie Portman and hot grits? Naked?

I'm sure I've missed a few. =)

The fine print (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19984687)

"Pricing is based on the value of US Dollar and may therefore vary between countries and may also change without notice.

Specifiactions on the laptop can change without notice. The specifications can not be lower technology, though.

Availability of the Medison Celebrity model depends on how many orders we get per day. It might take one or two weeks longer to get the laptop.

Terms (date and price) of offer may change without notice.

Taxes vary from country to country and from state to state. Medison is not responsible for paying any additional taxes in your country or state.

Fees taken by our authorized partner 2CO are U$6.45 + 5,5% and extra on the price. Some smaller fees might be taken by your bank and varies on what bank and card you have.

Shipping and handling is taken care of by our partner MK Electronics.

Re:The fine print (3, Informative)

cryingpoet (472652) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984839)

The FAQ says that it will take more like 4-6 weeks to ship your laptop. I doubt that they are in production yet.

I think I will wait to see if any laptops ship before laying down any of my money.

Re:The fine print (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 6 years ago | (#19985247)

I'm currently using an old ThinkPad as my spare laptop, and this looks like a step up in almost every way (I said it was old). Only almost, because the graphics chipset is a VIA PN800. I can't find any indication that this is supported by DRI drivers. Is a blob required, or does it just use the graphics hardware as a VESA framebuffer?

I'm highly suspicious (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19984695)

You get what you pay for, I doubt this is any exception. No reason to make a fuss just yet.

Re:I'm highly suspicious (1)

drooling-dog (189103) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984861)

It's bound to be better than a $150 Vista laptop, though...

Re:I'm highly suspicious (2, Funny)

ookabooka (731013) | more than 6 years ago | (#19985173)

I don't think half of a DVD constitutes a laptop.

Fedora Red Hat? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19984697)

Fedora Red Hat

Oh that's too cute! Is that a new Linux distro or something?

I use "OpenSolaris Sun" on my laptop.

For the Masses? right.... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19984717)

$150 Linux Laptop for the Masses
Should read $150 Linux Laptop for the Linux users who can't load Linux on a laptop

Re:For the Masses? right.... (1)

DragonWriter (970822) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984835)

Should read $150 Linux Laptop for the Linux users who can't load Linux on a laptop


Uh, really? That suggests that there are better $150 laptops on the market for Linux users that can load Linux on a laptop.

Medison? (2, Funny)

ciaohound (118419) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984733)

That's tough to swallow.

Re:Medison? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19984747)

Your mom didn't think so. She went to the root and sucked out all the juice.

Re:Medison? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19984819)

Does anyone know if this is a scam??

Re:Medison? (-1, Troll)

Usquebaugh (230216) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984875)

I prefer an apple a day

Re:Medison? (5, Funny)

Kamineko (851857) | more than 6 years ago | (#19985041)

Here:

*offers spoonful of sugar*

That should help it go down.

no 64 bit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19984785)

just in case you were wondering, it is not 64 bit.

We don't care (1)

SanityInAnarchy (655584) | more than 6 years ago | (#19985303)

Just in case you were wondering, we don't care.

It's a 1.5 ghz single-core Celeron, so you wouldn't buy it for performance -- never mind that most apps don't get much of a performance boost out of 64-bit. (Most get some tiny amount, some get something huge like 50% that makes it all worthwhile...)

It's also got 256 megs of RAM. If it had more than 2 gigs, we'd really, really want 64-bit. But it's got 256 megs and a magnetic hard drive (meaning you won't exactly want to be running more than 2 gigs worth of stuff in swap).

So, I mean, thanks for the info, but I honestly can't think of a reason I'd want it to be 64-bit.

Wish it had more details (4, Insightful)

WrongMonkey (1027334) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984791)

It's a neat looking laptop, but info on the website is pretty scarce. For instance, what kind of battery life can I expect? Is it as upgradeable as normal laptop (eg. HDD and RAM)?

Re:Wish it had more details (3, Insightful)

metlin (258108) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984853)

Quite obviously, you read the website [medisoncelebrity.com] , didn't you?

Q: Do you have other products or can I add more memory to this laptop?

A: Yes, we have other models coming up next month and if you want to expand with more memory on your laptop you can go to our 'Accessories' page and buy extra memory.

Re:Wish it had more details (1)

WrongMonkey (1027334) | more than 6 years ago | (#19985287)

By 'upgrade' I meant AFTER purchase. That's the usual parlance.

Also their accessories page is a bunch of ads from other vendors, most not in English. Hardly reassuring.

Re:Wish it had more details (1)

8282now (583198) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984889)

Actually, it does specify that the HDD is replaceable explicitly. The ram is spec'd as 256 MB upgradeable to 1G. But, then IRTFS.... ;)

Re:Wish it had more details (3, Informative)

fifedrum (611338) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984895)

I'm having a hard time believing it's a real product, just seems to good to be true

summary: seems like a decent box, upgrade ram to 1 gb and you got a deal. pricewatch says the 200 pin sodimm is going for $80ish

begin copy/paste from their specs page:

        * CPU - Intel® Celeron® M Processor 370 (1.5 GHz, 90nm, FSB400, 1 MB L2 cache, uPGA478)
        * DISPLAY - 14.0" WXGA (1280x768) TFT
        * HARD DRIVE - 40 GB
        * DIMENSION - 333(W) x 243(D) x 24/33.(H)mm (front/back), 2.2Kg with 6 cells Lithium-lion battery

        * MEMORY - 64-bit wide DDR data channel, One 200-pin SODIMM socket, supporting DDR 333/400, 256 MB Expandable up to 1GB, based on SODIMM Modules
        * STORAGE - One changeable 2.5" 9.5mm(H) HDD, Supporting Master mode IDE ATA-33/66/100/133 (Ultra DMA), One changeable 12.7mm(H) CD/DVD Combo
        * VIDEO CONTROLLER - VIA PN800 integration, Shared Memory Architecture up to 64MB, 128 bit 3D graphic engine, Support analog monitor pixel resolution up to 1920x1400, Support two displays dual view
        * KEYBOARD - A4 size keyboard, Built-in Touchpad with scrolling function

        * SOUND SYSTEM - AC'97 2.2 Compliant Interface, 3D stereo enhanced sound system, Sound-Blaster PROTM Compatible, S/PDIF Digital output (5.1 CH), 1x Built-in Microphone, 2x Built-in Speakers
        * I/O PORTS - 3x USB 2.0 ports, 1x External CRT monitor output, 1x Headphone jack, 1x Microphone jack, 1x S/PDIF output jack, 1x RJ-45 port for LAN, 1x Line-in jack, 1x DC-In jack
        * PCMCIA - 1x Type II PCMCIA socket
        * COMMUNICATION - 10/100BASE-TX Fast Ethernet on board, 802.11g MiniPCI Wireless LAN
        * POWER - Full Range 65W AC adapter - AC input 100~240V, 47~63Hz, DC output 20V, 3.25A, Removable 6-cell Smart Li-ion battery pack, 4000/4400mAh
        * SECURITY - Kensington® Lock

Limit on RAM upgrades - 1GB (2, Informative)

billstewart (78916) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984919)

The specs say it can support up to 1GB of RAM. That's enough for most people, but some people will find it limiting. (It comes with 256MB, so you'll need to spend some cash to make it more useful.)


Shouldn't be any reason there's a problem with upgrading disks. I don't know if there's any antique 137-GB limitation in the BIOS - if there is, then you might be limited to 120GB.


1 PCMCIA slot, 3 USB, built-in 802.11g, S/PDIF sound. Because it's 802.11g, you won't need to burn the PCMCIA slot immediately for wireless, though if you're doing .11n you may want to.

Re:Limit on RAM upgrades - 1GB (1)

edwdig (47888) | more than 6 years ago | (#19985061)

The specs say it can support up to 1GB of RAM. That's enough for most people, but some people will find it limiting.

If you need more than 1 GB of RAM, I would think you would be looking at a laptop that cost more than $150.

Re:Limit on RAM upgrades - 1GB (1)

networkBoy (774728) | more than 6 years ago | (#19985157)

Wireless is on a cPIC card, so when 11n comes out just replace the card and you still have an open PCcard slot.
at $150 this is a steal of a notebook, it's almost at the disposable price point. Assuming it is your "go anywhere" book and you have a primary system that you back up to, then just run an encrypting FS and if you lose it or break it, then who cares.
-nB

Re:Wish it had more details (1)

weszz (710261) | more than 6 years ago | (#19985087)

Ram up to 1 Gig, one slot.

MEMORY - 64-bit wide DDR data channel, One 200-pin SODIMM socket, supporting DDR 333/400, 256 MB Expandable up to 1GB, based on SODIMM Modules

STORAGE - One changeable 2.5" 9.5mm(H) HDD, Supporting Master mode IDE ATA-33/66/100/133 (Ultra DMA), One changeable 12.7mm(H) CD/DVD Combo

POWER - Full Range 65W AC adapter - AC input 100~240V, 47~63Hz, DC output 20V, 3.25A, Removable 6-cell Smart Li-ion battery pack, 4000/4400mAh

The battery you'd have to figure out, but a lower speed processor and non power hungry equipment, it should have a decent 5+ hours i would expect...

Re:Wish it had more details (1)

orkysoft (93727) | more than 6 years ago | (#19985099)

  • MEMORY - 64-bit wide DDR data channel, One 200-pin SODIMM socket, supporting DDR 333/400, 256 MB Expandable up to 1GB, based on SODIMM Modules
  • STORAGE - One changeable 2.5" 9.5mm(H) HDD, Supporting Master mode IDE ATA-33/66/100/133 (Ultra DMA), One changeable 12.7mm(H) CD/DVD Combo

Looks like they selected the cheapest parts -- 256 meg DDR SO-DIMM and 40 gig IDE drive, except for the CD/DVD combo drive.

Still, while I like the price of this thing, I don't trust them, I suspect it's a scam, and won't be buying until it's proven they're legit.

Re:Wish it had more details (2, Interesting)

orkysoft (93727) | more than 6 years ago | (#19985213)

Look at what the advertisers appear to pay:

Our Member programs:

- First program: U$ 15,000

- Special program: U$ 200,000

- Top program: U$ 2 million

Total number of hits on our website since April 2007: 438 576
Number of hits Per month since April 2007: 109 644

Of course, this doesn't make it true, the ads could be fake, and not paid for by those companies at all, just to make it look genuine. In fact, now that I look at it, all five ad images are hosted on the website itself, with simple URLs, not on some other site, or with a really long URL, like usual with ads.

This business smells.

It may be fraud (5, Interesting)

amorsen (7485) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984813)

There is a lot of speculation currently about whether this is fraud. They may be intending to run away with the money and not send out any laptops.

Re:It may be fraud (5, Interesting)

WrongMonkey (1027334) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984855)

Now that you mention it, one thing that should set off the fraud alarm is the 4-6 weeks delivery time. That's a eon in terms of modern service, but a long enough time to collect a lot of orders before anyone expects to receive their product.

Re:It may be fraud (1)

sumdumass (711423) | more than 6 years ago | (#19985075)

4-6 weeks is probably the time they will need to order and assemble the parts. It sounds to me like they are going to skip buying these until you buy them first then customize them to your order.

Re:It may be fraud (1)

WrongMonkey (1027334) | more than 6 years ago | (#19985191)

If this is the case, then they have some terrible supply chain problems. That kind of turn around time has been unacceptable for decades. At the very least, they should be able to overtime order the parts each day and ship out the laptops in 48 hrs or less.

Re:It may be fraud (1)

DragonWriter (970822) | more than 6 years ago | (#19985235)

4-6 weeks is probably the time they will need to order and assemble the parts.


Or maybe just the time it takes to get them on the slow boat from the Brazil plant to Sweden to you.

Re:It may be fraud (5, Insightful)

theelectron (973857) | more than 6 years ago | (#19985085)

I like how on the order page, the verified by Visa and Mastercard mastercode logos (which should have links from them to verify their authenticity) are just pictures on the site. Very fishy indeed.

No phone number! (4, Insightful)

ipjohnson (580042) | more than 6 years ago | (#19985147)

To quote the website "The phone lines are temporarly closed" all they give is an email address. You can't even call to complain if you don't get it.

If they are legit they are working really hard to seem like a scam.

Re:It may be fraud (2, Informative)

hendridm (302246) | more than 6 years ago | (#19985281)

Plus, they are using 2checkout to process credit cards, which I would consider odd for a decent size company supposedly selling revolutionary laptops. It's pretty obviously a scam, but they got our attention!

Re:It may be fraud (2, Interesting)

MontyApollo (849862) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984885)

Fraud was my first thought, especially with their pay method. The configuration is similar to a Dell I bought 5 years ago for $1600.

Re:It may be fraud (1)

networkBoy (774728) | more than 6 years ago | (#19985217)

My ISP uses 2CO and when they went belly up (I can only assume, given my inability to reach *anyone* at the ISP) I was pleasantly surprised at the customer service from the 2CO guys and how easy it was to get a chargeback to go through.
They tried contacting the ISP, and when nothing happened they issued the refund. Total time from realizing something was wrong to getting a refund, 1 week, and most of that was spent giving the ISP every possible chance to respond.
-nB

Re:It may be fraud (1)

Hitto (913085) | more than 6 years ago | (#19985257)

Maybe in five years, the price for technology has gone *down*?
Just sayin'.

Re:It may be fraud (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19984909)

One thing raised a red flag for me:

The computer is shipped completely set up and ready-to-use with Linux pre-installed
- no complicated installations or adjustments are needed -within 4-6 weeks.


Four to six weeks sounds like a long time. Maybe there's a good reason but I will wait until some people have received one before I order mine. $150 for this machine seems better than any used machine you could buy for the same price. It seems like an amazing bargain; maybe too good to be true.

Re:It may be fraud (4, Informative)

albalbo (33890) | more than 6 years ago | (#19985073)

The content is a complete rip-off of:

http://www.clevo.com.tw/products/M540V.asp [clevo.com.tw]

They say that they manufacture in Sweden, but that's a Taiwanese firm. Definitely stinky, and I wouldn't buy one.

Re:It may be fraud (1)

dmitrygr (736758) | more than 6 years ago | (#19985175)

Quite a few companies registered at that address... http://www.ukdata.com/company-credit-reports/NORDI C-MULTIMEDIA-DISTRIBUTION-LIMITED.html [ukdata.com] http://www.companiesgate.co.uk/KEN-ERIK+LIMITED.as px [companiesgate.co.uk] http://www.companiesgate.co.uk/HG+SHIPREPAIR+LIMIT ED.aspx [companiesgate.co.uk] and the address itself is a residential area (check google maps) Very suspicious...

Re:It may be fraud (3, Informative)

dmitrygr (736758) | more than 6 years ago | (#19985231)

But feel free to call the main guy behind all this, and ask. His mobile number is "+47 98 60 56 60", as seen on his personal website: http://www.ken-erik.com/ [ken-erik.com]

Re:It may be fraud (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19985209)

Yeah, this is way too good to be true, it's never going to happen.

Links from Engadget that people posted:
http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/02f0dac25c029c53 8688518e70982ba3/compdetails [companieshouse.gov.uk]
http://www.ukdata.com/company-credit-reports/NORDI C-MULTIMEDIA-DISTRIBUTION-LIMITED.html [ukdata.com]
http://www.companiesgate.co.uk/KEN-ERIK+LIMITED.as px [companiesgate.co.uk]
http://www.companiesgate.co.uk/HG+SHIPREPAIR+LIMIT ED.aspx [companiesgate.co.uk]

Check the address of the companies in question. Is there any doubt that this is a scam? Nope.

How did SPAM get on Slashdot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19984815)

There's noarticles about it, and the website doesn't even mention the $150 price point. The specifications are far too superior to cost $150

Re:How did SPAM get on Slashdot? (1)

stevobi (600234) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984877)

There's a giant gold link named "Price." And when you click it, there are giant characters that read "U$ 150."

Ohio? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19984817)

So when when I cliek "buy now" not only do I get a different price, but I get a redirect to some place on Ohio, USA? I think the website has been hacked. No sale, thanks.

Re:Ohio? (1)

Saiboogu (643207) | more than 6 years ago | (#19985093)

Different price -- Processing fees? They were mentioned by another comment above.

The payment processor is in Ohio - 2Checkout.com. Reviewing their site (and Google) they seem to be a legitimate company and their FAQ implies that consumers will receive refunds if the merchant can't prove delivery of the product.

Not to say this is all true -- I want to believe it, but as others have said - sounds like a little much for the price.

Can anyone (Swedish?) confirm this list of other projects from their corporate site: http://www.medison.se/productseng.html [medison.se] ?

Well... (1)

RockoTDF (1042780) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984823)

....I for one Welcome our new third-world hacker overlords!

Looks fake. (1)

N8F8 (4562) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984827)

Looks like a picture of an HP notebook.

Re:Looks fake. (1)

Spookticus (985296) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984931)

I thought the picture looked more like an older Sony vaio or a Toshiba satellite.

Smells fishy... (5, Informative)

Da_Biz (267075) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984833)

See comments from Engadget:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/25/medison-celebri ty-150-of-linux-laptop-for-the-people [engadget.com]

This one looks particularly concerning:

Johan Löfgren @ Jul 25th 2007 12:02PM

Hello fellas. I came across this site, when searching for information about this computer. With that pricetag, it would be a brilliant surf & chat computer for me.

I'm a swedish student, and I found an article in a larger web-newspaper in sweden and was amazed..

Sadly though, when reading comments all over, at swedish sites, this thing starts to smell very very rotten..

The speculation is about this beeing a scam, in the same way that you've mentioned above.

There's bankrupcy issues, lies at the homepage, weird and incomplete messages from the people behind this "madison" company. The screenshots of the computer, has been found at other manufacturers. Companies, that Madison claim to work with, hasn't heard of the connection..

The things above, has been discovered by many people, at different swedish sites. Even more than that.

The 4-6 week delivery time, sounds perfect to grab as much cash as possible and run.

No-one can find anyone with an example of this computer. People doesn't believe this thing even exist.

I recommend all of you, to wait and see how everything turns out here in sweden, before you buy this. As most swedes do right now.. Wait and see if the first computers arrive at all.

I hope that this isn't a scam. I'd love to buy one. I'd love if the promised "future generation" will arrive.

But this thing doesn't feel safe.

Cincearly
-Johan Löfgren. Orebro, Sweden

Re:Smells fishy... (5, Insightful)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984951)

Well there is an old saying.
If it sounds too good to be true...

But running a scam like this out of Sweden seems like a big risk to me. But then I have no idea how good the Swedish legal system is. I thought they had some very strong consumer protection laws. It is probably safer to buy this if you live in Sweden than the US.

Re:Smells fishy... (1)

lawpoop (604919) | more than 6 years ago | (#19985261)

But running a scam like this out of Sweden seems like a big risk to me. But then I have no idea how good the Swedish legal system is. I thought they had some very strong consumer protection laws. It is probably safer to buy this if you live in Sweden than the US.
Scamsters are like liars or kleptomaniacs. They just can't make an honest living. They have to cheat and lie. It's a mental disorder. It doesn't matter what the risks are or what country they live in.

Re:Smells fishy... (5, Interesting)

RAMMS+EIN (578166) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984967)

Damn. It sounded so good.

Come to think of it, maybe that should have been the first warning.

Re:Smells fishy... (0, Offtopic)

derrida (918536) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984999)

But this thing doesn't feel safe.
At $199.95 this [windowsmarketplace.com] doesn't feel safe either.

Re:Smells fishy... (1)

ME-tan (995456) | more than 6 years ago | (#19985005)

Contact information - Medison Europe Limited 27 Ruffets Wood Gravesend, Kent DA12 5JQ England Hmm based out of the UK? We are pricegouged for technology here so it costs twice as much as in the US, plus the local currency is so strong we can't export anything. http://www.multimap.com/maps/#t=l&map=51.41172,0.3 7755 [multimap.com] |17|32&loc=GB:51.41172:0.37755:16|DA12%205JQ|D A12%205JQ Aerial photo of the area looks a residential area in the middle of Singlewell. There is a hotel and a primary school very close and you dont often find those in industrial estates, even small ones. Some of the buildings look a little unhouselike so could be a small ind. est. as you find in some small places. It does mention that the company is a startup so this kind of tallies in but does not suggest premesis that can organise worldwide shipping of laptops. Rates about 8 out of 10 on the scamorama probability scale in that alone, probably 10 in 10 with the other things already said

Re:Smells fishy... (3, Insightful)

RAMMS+EIN (578166) | more than 6 years ago | (#19985195)

If this is indeed a scam...we have been trolled. Badly. I would feel they deserve kudos for getting their fake product featured on /..

On the other hand, the fact that, within minutes of the story going live, you pointed out the scammy smell and got modded up so as to be prominently near the top of the page shows the major strength of community-driven reporting: near-instantaneous corrections and additions.

Selling stolen laptops? (1)

AHumbleOpinion (546848) | more than 6 years ago | (#19985299)

I recommend all of you, to wait and see how everything turns out here in sweden, before you buy this. As most swedes do right now.. Wait and see if the first computers arrive at all.

FWIW, some scams pay/ship to the first round to ease fears and score even bigger with the second round. Unlikely in this case though, unless someone stole a shipment of laptops.

Battery life and other points... (1, Interesting)

VitrosChemistryAnaly (616952) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984865)

I read the faq [medisoncelebrity.com] on their website, but it doesn't mention battery life. I imagine that it would be pretty good considering the (relatively) low end components, but I've been wrong before.

I'm seriously interested in buying one of these guys. Not that I can't pick up an old laptop and install Linux on it, but I don't think I can pick up a laptop with all new components for $150.

Also it's guaranteed that all the components work/play well with Linux. That's a good feeling.

Re:Battery life and other points... (2, Funny)

Dr. Smoove (1099425) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984955)

Battery life is infinite on the Madison VaporTop! Just send us 150$ USD in unmarked bills, actually, mark the bills with your SSN, and send them to our PO Box in China.

Re:Battery life and other points... (1)

VitrosChemistryAnaly (616952) | more than 6 years ago | (#19985107)

Battery life is infinite on the Madison VaporTop! Just send us 150$ USD in unmarked bills, actually, mark the bills with your SSN, and send them to our PO Box in China.
Yeah, I'm starting to get that vaporware feeling after doing a little more reading. Pfft, probably too good to be true.

Re:Battery life and other points... (2, Interesting)

RiffRafff (234408) | more than 6 years ago | (#19985349)

No, you should buy it. Then report back, so the rest of us can know if it's above board. But I've never heard of this Medison company, and although it appears to be Swedish, googling "Valdi Ivancic" (the name in the whois data) shows a LinkedIn account in San Francisco. Couple that with the 4-6 week delivery time and the "phone lines are temporarly closed" of their webpage...nah, it's a scam.

$150 + order charges + s&h + ... (1)

rur (110111) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984887)

which might bring the price to the USD 250-300 range. It seems the machines will be built in Brazil.

Shipping: Scandinavia (free) ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19984893)

Is this real?

$150 for a laptop.

What's the catch.

Oh well, I bought one. We'll see if it's real or they run out ( from slashdot), and send a "so sorry".

Laptop specs (3, Informative)

AncientPC (951874) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984897)

* CPU - Intel® Celeron® M Processor 370 (1.5 GHz, 90nm, FSB400, 1 MB L2 cache, uPGA478)
* DISPLAY - 14.0" WXGA (1280x768) TFT
* HARD DRIVE - 40 GB
* DIMENSION - 333(W) x 243(D) x 24/33.(H)mm (front/back), 2.2Kg with 6 cells Lithium-lion battery

* MEMORY - 64-bit wide DDR data channel, One 200-pin SODIMM socket, supporting DDR 333/400, 256 MB Expandable up to 1GB, based on SODIMM Modules
* STORAGE - One changeable 2.5" 9.5mm(H) HDD, Supporting Master mode IDE ATA-33/66/100/133 (Ultra DMA), One changeable 12.7mm(H) CD/DVD Combo
* VIDEO CONTROLLER - VIA PN800 integration, Shared Memory Architecture up to 64MB, 128 bit 3D graphic engine, Support analog monitor pixel resolution up to 1920x1400, Support two displays dual view
* KEYBOARD - A4 size keyboard, Built-in Touchpad with scrolling function

* SOUND SYSTEM - AC'97 2.2 Compliant Interface, 3D stereo enhanced sound system, Sound-Blaster PROTM Compatible, S/PDIF Digital output (5.1 CH), 1x Built-in Microphone, 2x Built-in Speakers
* I/O PORTS - 3x USB 2.0 ports, 1x External CRT monitor output, 1x Headphone jack, 1x Microphone jack, 1x S/PDIF output jack, 1x RJ-45 port for LAN, 1x Line-in jack, 1x DC-In jack
* PCMCIA - 1x Type II PCMCIA socket
* COMMUNICATION - 10/100BASE-TX Fast Ethernet on board, 802.11g MiniPCI Wireless LAN
* POWER - Full Range 65W AC adapter - AC input 100~240V, 47~63Hz, DC output 20V, 3.25A, Removable 6-cell Smart Li-ion battery pack, 4000/4400mAh
* SECURITY - Kensington® Lock

Good idea (3, Interesting)

thebonafortuna (1050016) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984903)

The specifications on this seem pretty impressive for a laptop only costing $150:

From the website:

*Intel® Celeron® M Processor 370 (1.5 GHz, 90nm, FSB400, 1 MB L2 cache, uPGA478)
*14.0" WXGA (1280x768) TFT
*40 GB hard drive
*6 cell lithium ion battery
*64-bit wide DDR data channel, One 200-pin SODIMM socket, supporting DDR 333/400, 256 MB Expandable up to 1GB, based on SODIMM Modules
*One changeable 2.5" 9.5mm(H) HDD, Supporting Master mode IDE ATA-33/66/100/133 (Ultra DMA), One changeable 12.7mm(H) CD/DVD Combo
*VIA PN800 integration, Shared Memory Architecture up to 64MB, 128 bit 3D graphic engine, Support analog monitor pixel resolution up to 1920x1400, Support two displays dual view
*A4 size keyboard, Built-in Touchpad with scrolling function
*AC'97 2.2 Compliant Interface, 3D stereo enhanced sound system, Sound-Blaster PROTM Compatible, S/PDIF Digital output (5.1 CH), 1x Built-in Microphone, 2x Built-in Speakers
*3x USB 2.0 ports, 1x External CRT monitor output, 1x Headphone jack, 1x Microphone jack, 1x S/PDIF output jack, 1x RJ-45 port for LAN, 1x Line-in jack, 1x DC-In jack
*1x Type II PCMCIA socket
*10/100BASE-TX Fast Ethernet on board, 802.11g MiniPCI Wireless LAN
*Full Range 65W AC adapter - AC input 100~240V, 47~63Hz, DC output 20V, 3.25A, Removable 6-cell Smart Li-ion battery pack, 4000/4400mAh
*Kensington® Lock

Those specs are actually pretty close to what my OEM ThinkPad A31 was, when it was shipped. Although I upgraded the RAM, those specs are otherwise still pretty close, and that laptop still runs XP incredibly smoothly. While I'm not saying people should put XP on this thing, using a Windows product as a benchmark for smooth performance is generally a good way to determine how well linux will run on a machine. Considering the integrated wireless card, "pre-installed office and multimedia applications", and the DVD player, this thing seems like an ideal machine for someone on the go who doesn't want to worry about their equipment too much.

It's also a perfect way to learn linux, if you don't already have an old(er) computer lying around you can toss the OS onto. I will probably buy it for that exact reason. Now if somebody would just do something about that website so I don't worry I'm getting ripped off by some scam artist with poor web writing skills...

Technical Specs (-1, Redundant)

arsheive (609065) | more than 6 years ago | (#19984915)

From the site...
  • CPU - Intel® Celeron® M Processor 370 (1.5 GHz, 90nm, FSB400, 1 MB L2 cache, uPGA478)
  • DISPLAY - 14.0" WXGA (1280x768) TFT
  • HARD DRIVE - 40 GB
  • DIMENSION - 333(W) x 243(D) x 24/33.(H)mm (front/back), 2.2Kg with 6 cells Lithium-lion battery
  • MEMORY - 64-bit wide DDR data channel, One 200-pin SODIMM socket, supporting DDR 333/400, 256 MB Expandable up to 1GB, based on SODIMM Modules
  • STORAGE - One changeable 2.5" 9.5mm(H) HDD, Supporting Master mode IDE ATA-33/66/100/133 (Ultra DMA), One changeable 12.7mm(H) CD/DVD Combo
  • VIDEO CONTROLLER - VIA PN800 integration, Shared Memory Architecture up to 64MB, 128 bit 3D graphic engine, Support analog monitor pixel resolution up to 1920x1400, Support two displays dual view
  • KEYBOARD - A4 size keyboard, Built-in Touchpad with scrolling function
  • SOUND SYSTEM - AC'97 2.2 Compliant Interface, 3D stereo enhanced sound system, Sound-Blaster PROTM Compatible, S/PDIF Digital output (5.1 CH), 1x Built-in Microphone, 2x Built-in Speakers
  • I/O PORTS - 3x USB 2.0 ports, 1x External CRT monitor output, 1x Headphone jack, 1x Microphone jack, 1x S/PDIF output jack, 1x RJ-45 port for LAN, 1x Line-in jack, 1x DC-In jack
  • PCMCIA - 1x Type II PCMCIA socket
  • COMMUNICATION - 10/100BASE-TX Fast Ethernet on board, 802.11g MiniPCI Wireless LAN
  • POWER - Full Range 65W AC adapter - AC input 100~240V, 47~63Hz, DC output 20V, 3.25A, Removable 6-cell Smart Li-ion battery pack, 4000/4400mAh
  • SECURITY - Kensington® Lock

Smells like a scam (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19984969)

From the website contact page: "The phone lines are temporarly closed"... WTF??? They manufacture their own laptops in a company that only has email communication?!?

Brilliant! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19984983)

Finally, a cheap simple laptop (assuming it is real)

Now all we need is Walmart to buy them in bulk and have them in their stores by christmas at $99.99 each, and suddenly every kid in the country will have a laptop with linux!

By the time these kids grow up, Microsoft would never recover.
Go linux!

Please resist (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19984989)

Please resist the temptation to post, "It seems their Website is running on one of these"

Also, however off topic, let's also retire ...I Welcome our New .... Overlords ...But does it run Linux

Re:Please resist (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19985025)

Why? It's funny if it runs windows, right?

Now for some fine print :-( (0, Redundant)

CBob (722532) | more than 6 years ago | (#19985055)

(begin paste)
Pricing is based on the value of US Dollar and may therefore vary between countries and may also change without notice.

Specifiactions on the laptop can change without notice. The specifications can not be lower technology, though.

Availability of the Medison Celebrity model depends on how many orders we get per day. It might take one or two weeks longer to get the laptop.

Terms (date and price) of offer may change without notice.

Taxes vary from country to country and from state to state. Medison is not responsible for paying any additional taxes in your country or state.

Fees taken by our authorized partner 2CO are U$6.45 + 5,5% and extra on the price. Some smaller fees might be taken by your bank and varies on what bank and card you have.

Shipping and handling is taken care of by our partner MK Electronics.
(end paste)

Food for thought, tho I REALLY hope it is for real.

IKEA? (5, Funny)

KeepQuiet (992584) | more than 6 years ago | (#19985057)

So I guess IKEA finally got into computer business:)

I have one like this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19985127)

It's very like the same OEM machine, I installed Ubuntu and put more 256Mb, it's a good machine. I paid $750.
http://www.cceinformatica.com.br/cont_produtos.php ?id_produto=32 [cceinformatica.com.br]

Re:I have one like this (1)

Riba (21663) | more than 6 years ago | (#19985283)

Your laptop is almost totally different inside :-)
Most notably your laptop has intel chipset and DDR2 memories. Medisons VIA cheapo-chipset and older DDR1 memories.

Perfect (2, Funny)

tttonyyy (726776) | more than 6 years ago | (#19985239)

Sounds like the perfect new product for this company...

http://www.anuslaptops.com/ [anuslaptops.com]

take this off slashdot (5, Interesting)

b4thyme (1120461) | more than 6 years ago | (#19985297)

shouldn't this be taken off of slashdot to reduce free advertising for a potential scam?

VIA PN800 Chipset (1)

daskrabs (976610) | more than 6 years ago | (#19985341)

Isn't this a chipset for a Pentium 4 desktop motherboard? How'd they fit that in a laptop case? www.via.com.tw/en/products/chipsets/p4-series/pn80 0/

I'm from Missouri (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19985357)

SHOW ME!

Scam (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#19985359)

This is probably a scam : no company called "medison" can be found in the UK buisness directory.
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