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AC = Domestic Terrorists?

CmdrTaco posted more than 6 years ago | from the you-can't-make-this-up dept.

It's funny.  Laugh. 519

Miang writes "A video from a recent FOX 11 (Los Angeles) newscast has surfaced on YouTube. In the segment, reporter Phil Shuman investigates so-called "Hacker Gangs" comprised entirely of anonymous users. The segment, which focuses mainly on users at 4chan, 7chan, and 420chan, seems to confuse /b/ raids and motivational poster templates with a genuine threat to the American public. For added FUD, the FOX team inserted an unrelated video of a van blowing up — twice! Presumably, one is intended to equate anonymous posting with domestic terror. The story and video can be found on the local FOX website, so it does not appear to be simply a clever parody." Cringe as you watch this video explain terms like 'LULZ' and show inspirational poster parodies as evidence of the evils of this terrifying "Group".

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"so-called 'hacker gangs'" (2, Insightful)

Aladrin (926209) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022109)

"so-called 'hacker gangs'"

They're only called that because you just called them that! Jeeez. There are roving gangs of hackers, lurking the backstreets of the 'net looking for sites to spray their graffiti on.

Fear the wrath of Anonymous! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20022117)

How dare you, Slashdot, call us - Anonymous, a COWARD?!

Yellow journalism at its finest (4, Insightful)

Chmcginn (201645) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022119)

The fact that it's a Fox affiliate isn't relevant, really. I've seen plenty of stories on local ABC, CBS, or NBC stations that were just as cringe-worthy. Even as computers have become more popular, people who really like (and understand) computers haven't.

Re:Yellow journalism at its finest (5, Funny)

iamdrscience (541136) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022365)

Even as computers have become more popular, people who really like (and understand) computers haven't.
Sounds like somebody couldn't get a date for the prom!

Re:Yellow journalism at its finest (2, Insightful)

goodmanj (234846) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022465)

The fact that it's a Fox affiliate isn't relevant, really
Sure it is. Whether the submitter had a "Fox News Sucks" agenda or not, you need to call institutions out by name when they're acting like morons. ABC, NBC, or Fox, they deserve to have their name in blink tags over this one.

I ... (5, Funny)

LordKaT (619540) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022121)

I ... wha ... ha ... za ... fuh?

Either the words don't exist to describe just how stupid these people are, or I'm too stupid to describe how stupid they are.

And the FOX reporters are worse!

I'm crazy! I'll do it! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20022131)

I'm serious, you all step back, or i'll blow this place SKY HIGH!

Re:I'm crazy! I'll do it! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20022313)

Alex: Hi is this Fox News? I have a story for you. It's about this website full of evil people harrassing me!

Fox reporter: How did you get this number? Get lost kid we have a war on terror to report on.

Alex: But... butbutbut... They ARE terrorists! They... they.. they once threatened to destroy stadiums with carbombs!

Fox reporter: Hmm I guess we can stretch this enough to make it Fox-worthy. Jackson, get my coat - we may have to blow up a minivan for dramatic footage just to be sure.

Re:I'm crazy! I'll do it! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20022347)

Anonymous did FOX/11

The reason why they blew up the vans (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20022139)

They did it for the LULZ!

Re:The reason why they blew up the vans (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20022527)

FOX: Do not want!

But if you carry out threats anonymously.... (5, Funny)

Durrok (912509) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022147)

.... you don't get any karma. :(

But if you carry out threats anonymously.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20022165)

.... you don't get any karma! =D

Re:But if you carry out threats anonymously.... (5, Funny)

iknownuttin (1099999) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022167)

.... you don't get any karma. :(

Yeah, but when you die, you go to heaven and get 42 brand new computers - never used!

Re:But if you carry out threats anonymously.... (1)

Joebert (946227) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022377)

Yeah, but when you die, you go to heaven and get 42 brand new computers - never used!

What the hell are they going to get from never used computers ?

Re:But if you carry out threats anonymously.... (-1, Troll)

frup (998325) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022345)

I don't give a fuck about karma. One in four Americans dies of cancer, I hope you're one of them fuck you American you fucking die.

Re:But if you carry out threats anonymously.... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20022389)

mod parent up

Re:But if you carry out threats anonymously.... (3, Funny)

click2005 (921437) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022445)

no... i'm not listening to you.. TFA says you're a terrorist so the GP must be telling the truth

Hackers On Steroids (5, Insightful)

LackThereof (916566) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022159)

Apparently, the ability to phish myspace passwords from clueless users earns you the title of "Hackers on Steroids" now. OMGWTFHAX!

There is only one solution for this problem. (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20022169)

It is the same solution that will always work: Make a law forbidding anonymous posts. Make anonymous posting on the internets a felony and not an offense, so that only criminals will be posting anonymously.

Death to all those fanatics!!!! And yes, i will post anonymously.

I actually have sympathy.... (5, Interesting)

Umuri (897961) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022171)

I actually have some sympathy for the reporters involved in this, because they have no clue what they're getting themselves in to.

Anonymous is what happens when you give people the ability to act without reprecussions, a good portion of the world turns into total a**holes. And they will surely retaliate, for two reasons. The first being the justification that "oh, we're called domestic terrorists, we better at least do something worth that name now".
The second being the justification "Umm, no. You totally misunderstand what we do here. We're just normal internet stupidity. want a sample? How about everyone in your company? We can do a mass raid if you want"

The second already is happening in droves, if you'll notice their forums.

Now, that said, the people i DON'T feel pity for are the "victims".
The male victim, who fails at trying to be anonymous, now has his name, and his story, all over all of the *chans. All he's doing is trying to get revenge because anonymous wouldn't raid his stupid girlfriend and that they told him he was being a moron. He spends most of his time actively trying to spread dirt on the *chans, including warning potential raid targets, making up lies about what raids actually are.

As for the female victim, her story is similarly stupid, but as I do not know the entire thing with all facts for certain, i will refrain from final judgement and spreading rumors.

But for most raid "victims" in general, their main flaw was that they posted too much personal information online, and made a point of either harassing others, who happened to be anonymous, or whining to anonymous for favors.

I am not anonymous, but it pays to know about them.

Re:I actually have sympathy.... (5, Insightful)

skrolle2 (844387) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022235)

If there's anything else the victims have in common is that they take themselves way too seriously.

The internet is a wonderful place, everyone can get their 15 minutes of fame, and more. However, it might not be the fame they want, and trying to control it is absolutely futile. Maybe posting some sob story on your livejournal that everyone on the internet can read isn't such a good idea, maybe posting too much skin on your myspace is a bad idea too. It's as if people forget why it's a good idea to protect your privacy when they go on the internet, and some of these people get burnt by it. I hope they learn something at least.

Re:I actually have sympathy.... (5, Insightful)

Chmcginn (201645) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022253)

actually have some sympathy for the reporters involved in this, because they have no clue what they're getting themselves in to.
If reporters don't take the time to properly educate themselves on something before reporting on it, they're not doing their job, plain and simple. I don't have any sympathy for them - mainly because plenty of grandma & grandpa types who've never even heard of 4chan before that report now think their house will get firebombed if they post to the wrong message board.

Re:I actually have sympathy.... (5, Insightful)

oohshiny (998054) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022271)

Anonymous is what happens when you give people the ability to act without reprecussions,

And "reporter" is what happens when you have sunk so low that it doesn't matter anymore what you say as long as it's controversial.

No matter how anonymity may be abused, it's an essential part of a functioning democracy and free society, because if you don't have it, the only people participating in discussions are those with nothing to lose.

Re:I actually have sympathy.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20022321)

I couldn't help but laugh when the one guy (David) blamed "Anonymous" for his girlfriend leaving him.

Re:I actually have sympathy.... (5, Funny)

notnAP (846325) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022499)

what happens when you give people the ability to act without reprecussions, a good portion of the world turns into total a**holes.


Are you referring to the hackers, the reporters, or FOX?

Anonymous, not Anonymous Coward. (5, Interesting)

Virak (897071) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022181)

Two completely different people. Anonymous Coward is a normal Slashdot user who merely has perpetually bad karma. Anonymous is, as the video states, an "Internet hate machine". He is the very personification of the deepest, darkest desires of the Internet. Which, of course, means he spends half of his time masturbating to strange pornography, the other half attacking easily-angered idiots for his personal amusement, and the other other half debating Bush, pedophilia, and quantum mechanics.

Re:Anonymous, not Anonymous Coward. (5, Funny)

Chmcginn (201645) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022193)

And the last half doing poor math? :P

Re:Anonymous, not Anonymous Coward. (1)

Virak (897071) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022225)

Anonymous's power is so great that he need not abide by logic (and generally does not), but yes, and most often in the context of threads started with this [imageshack.us] image.

Re:Anonymous, not Anonymous Coward. (1)

LaughingCoder (914424) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022205)

So if your math is right, these Anonymous types have 50% more time in a day than the rest of us? No wonder everyone is worried about them.

Re:Anonymous, not Anonymous Coward. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20022381)

Anonymous never sleeps. Anonymous is always watching.

Re:Anonymous, not Anonymous Coward. (1)

internet hate machin (1134055) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022223)

IDWTP. The pornography I enjoy goes far beyond 'strange' and I spend much more than half of my tie masturbating, easily 90% of my time. I do it while doing the other things and just about anything else except for small times when I am asleep.

Sadly,, /. silently truncates usernames to 20 characters.

Re:Anonymous, not Anonymous Coward. (1)

Virak (897071) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022265)

Of course, the English language has no words for the horrors Anonymous gets off to; I was merely using a rough approximation. (Note, however, that the vastly superior Japanese language has a wide variety of terms for such things, like "kawaii", "moe", and "loli"). And I was speaking of dedicated fap time, not including when you're doing other things.

Re:Anonymous, not Anonymous Coward. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20022267)

you call yourself far beyond strange, yet by your own admission only use half a tie. I use the whole tie. Sometimes two of them.

Re:Anonymous, not Anonymous Coward. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20022331)

so he is *EVERY* /.er

Re:Anonymous, not Anonymous Coward. (1)

Luke Dawson (956412) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022405)

Which, of course, means he spends half of his time masturbating to strange pornography, the other half attacking easily-angered idiots for his personal amusement, and the other other half debating Bush, pedophilia, and quantum mechanics.
Uhm, which one's the Slashdot AC again?

We are legion. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20022187)

Anonymous does not forgive. Anonymous does not forget.

PS. I herd it was those guys over at eBaum's World that did it.

They did bring us HP7... (5, Insightful)

rdwald (831442) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022189)

Well, 4chan did let us all read Harry Potter 7 five days early...and the video does equate spoiling popular fantasy books with domestic terrorism...so I guess they are terrorists!

oh noes :( (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20022213)

When lolcats are outlawed, only outlaws will be in ur lolcatz

Re:oh noes :( (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20022407)

It's Caturday, you fucking idiot. Not "lolcatz."

in /b clueless reporters (1)

Petkov (1011081) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022227)

420's been dead for what, at least 6-7 months now? the party is definitely over for 4chan. their servers are in USA. From now on their will be scrutinized really closely.

Hahaha... and I thought Slashdot was funny... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20022229)

...but that video was so bullshitty I really want to meet the people who get afraid because of such retarded crap and make them build a church.

Re:Hahaha... and I thought Slashdot was funny... (5, Funny)

skrolle2 (844387) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022247)

They bought a dog. How are you gonna get past their dog? Huh? Huh? Didn't think of that, did you?

When the bits hit the fan...... (1)

innatetech (1132729) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022249)

Just wait until Bill O'Reilly finds out about tentacle pr0n.

Re:When the bits hit the fan...... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20022413)

A transcript:

Bill: "Environmentalists have spared their lives, encouraged them to grow in droves, but the octopi and squid-like denizens of the deep have been so for Liberalistic ideals: tentacle pr0n. Some of you might be familiar with the concept of pornography, but this senior Fox personnel has stumbled upon a phenomena beyond porn, known as pr0n to the users of such insidious images. Worse yet, combining pedophilic desires with bestiality, our young school girls and obvious sea cadets, tentacle pr0n seems to undermine our American values and sensibility. But Fox has found the origin: It started in Japan! We now go to our token Asian reporter in Japan, Kim Robertson.

Kim: Yes, it appears that the origins of tentacle pr0n were here in Japan - in various available media such as comic books, and popular cartoons. As part of my research, I have donned this "sailor suit" (popular with most girls here in Japan) and I've purchases a live squid. No matter how many times I've rubbed this squid on my slim, trim, and perky body, it hasn't tried to rape me. Apparently there's more to it than this.

Japanese man (blacked out and translator's voice changed): Yes, we use a wide array of chemical cues and electrical apparatus to coax the squid to rape our sailor suit girls.

Bill: And how could this be used by the terrorists?

Kim: Apparently, a van could be loaded with live, horny suid, and be exploded at Ft. Lauderdale during Spring Break, distracting our young women with multi-suckered, tentacle squid as opposed to STD-laden football players.

Bill: So there is a terrorist connection to this?

Japanese man: Yes, tentacle pr0n could be used by terrorists to undermine America, but they would have to be the most twisted, sick terrorists imaginable.

Bill: So we have it here people - tentacle pr0n - the weapon of the sickest of all terrorists, bent on taking America...

Bill: Are off the air? Whew - good - now where's that video of Kim and the squids?

What's the Background? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20022259)

I've tried searching, including that tagline they show on the poster at the end: 'because none of us are as cruel as all of us'. Can't find anything relevant.

I understand that Fox News isn't really news, but isn't some of what they're saying based in reality? Am talking about the basics, like the groups they're talking about existing at all? Could some kind person please fill in those of us who're not up on 1337 h4Xx0r popular culture?

Even if you're an Anonymous Coward, just doing it for 'LULZ' :)

Re:What's the Background? (2, Informative)

Chmcginn (201645) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022327)

I understand that Fox News isn't really news,

It's not FOX's national news that did this report, it was a local affiliate. Check out your local ABC or NBC station for more examples of idiocy.

anonanon (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20022357)

Lately I've been attending a new 12-Step group, Anonymous Anonymous. It's for recovering domestic terrorists, especially ones who want to be on TV. One of our main rules is never to post anonymously. Oh shi-

Re:What's the Background? (4, Informative)

skrolle2 (844387) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022387)

There is a place on the internet called 4chan. It is an imageboard, where you can post pictures of.. stuff. There is a lot of porn on it. There is a lot of very weird porn on it. There is a lot of funny pictures, and people modifying them to become even funnier. It's home to a lot of anonymous posters that enjoy poking fun at idiots on the internet.

You might learn more here:

http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/B [encycloped...matica.com]
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Image:B_summa ry.jpg [encycloped...matica.com]
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/4chan [encycloped...matica.com]
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Image:4chan-v enn-diagram.png [encycloped...matica.com]

If you think tubgirl, lemonparty and goatse is funny, this is where they came from. If you think lolcats and ORLY is funny, this is where it came from.

Also, the biggest crime you can commit is to ask for information, just like you did. You clearly need to lurk moar.

Re:What's the Background? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20022425)

Oh wow a newfag. 4chan never had an /i/nvasion board.

Re:What's the Background? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20022433)

in b4 cap filter

NO THE BIGGEST CRIME IS TO BREAK RULES 1 AND 2

in after cap filter

/b/ raids? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20022273)

As a fellow Anonymous, I would also like to be part of a /b/ raid. I live for epic LULZ.

Unfortunately, I do not know what a /b/ raid is. What are they? How do I get phone numbers so I can call people whiney emo bitches?

I need more epic LULZ.

FOX News Comedy Central (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20022279)

It has come full circle, my friends. Comedy Central replaces news networks with more reliable news and educated viewers (ala Stewart/Colbert), while FOX news replaces Comedy Central with corrupted LOLs.

Shock News Flash - FOX panders to stupid people (1)

Ash Vince (602485) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022283)

Errrr, oh shit everyone knows this already. Maybe I should slip back into my coma.

I am not a number (1)

Midnight Thunder (17205) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022287)

I am neither a number or a named individual. Fear my anonymity. f0x 4r3 10s3rs ;)

Re:I am not a number (3, Funny)

Midnight Thunder (17205) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022301)

I am neither a number or a named individual. Fear my anonymity. f0x 4r3 10s3rs ;)

Damn, too fast to post. Damn this is what you call an unmasked AC - oh well.

Did this video come out on 4/1? (1)

b0s0z0ku (752509) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022291)

(Not the YouTube posting date, but the creation date). *Sigh*

Re:Did this video come out on 4/1? (1)

pimpimpim (811140) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022481)

I get what you mean. I also have the feeling, as things as absurd as this seem to come up ever more frequently, that reality has become mixed with a heap of April Fools jokes. Unfortunately without the joke part, instead unhealthy more of the fools part.

You got a bunch of people (5, Insightful)

iminplaya (723125) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022305)

right here on Slashdot who feel the same way. "I ignore ACs" "I don't respond to ACs" "I mod ACs to -6". I think it's sick. Those people are closed minded so-n-sos. Well, all you ACs out there, I DO respond if the comment is worth responding to. I don't care where it comes from. I derive value from the comment itself, not necessarily the author. Don't let anybody shut you down. Use whatever abilities you have to be heard.

Re:You got a bunch of people (4, Insightful)

joto (134244) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022455)

We are all more or less anonymous here on slashdot. Very few people know who hides behind a username. The problem with ACs isn't their anonymity, it's their lack of identity. It's the same thing people are discussing about certain muslim women covering their face. Not only are they anonymous (most everyone in a big city is, even if they tell you their name (which could be fake)), but they also lack an identity. If you met her later, you wouldn't be able to tell if it was the same woman, or somebody else. This makes people feel uneasy about talking to such a person, even if she is a nice religious woman, and not a bank-robber (although bank-robbers have been known to use burkas as well).

It is no doubt that anonymity, and certainly, lack of identity, leads to antisocial behaviour. If people are to be held responsible for their actions, they need to be recognized by the people around them. That's why every discussion group on the Internet is full of people behaving antisocially, from flamers to trolls to crackpots, most of those people would have shut their mouth if it wasn't for the fact that they are anonymous. People who also choose to lack an identity (such as AC) are usually even worse, and seldom worth listening to.

There is nothing wrong about being scared of anonymity. What is funny about the Fox 11 coverage isn't that they claim anonymous Internet users can behave badly. What is funny is that they compare this to actual real-world terrorism, which, to take it mildly, is quite a different matter.

Re:You got a bunch of people (2, Insightful)

iminplaya (723125) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022477)

Well, this is FOX we're talking about here. It's all about ratings. And FUD, like lesbians = ratings. Personally, I'd rather see more lesbians.

/. and slowpoke discovered to be secred twins (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20022309)

slow slashdot is slow

Ob (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20022325)

A video from a recent FOX 11!!!ELEVENTYONEHUNDREDANDELEVEN!!! (Los Angeles)
Fixed.

simply wow (3, Insightful)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022329)

Wow. That's all I can say about that piece. Just wow...

First off, wasn't the Harry Potter spoiler clip in the middle of there taken from the Daily Show? (I could swear that's John Oliver's voice).

Second, the tool with the MySpace account--it's clear to anyone that has any idea about anything that he simply ended up with a virus/keylogger installed. "Anonymous" got his passwords from that and the virus got spread to his friends. Woooooh, that kinda shits been happening on the internet for forever now. He simply appears even more foolish for not having even that much of a clue (hell, my grandparents are aware that there are viruses and nasties out there).

What I find most disturbing about this is that if anyone sends Fox 11 an email/letter/phone call/whatever explaining to them how far off base their piece is, they'll just treat it all as threats that further back up their claim. Truly truly sad....

OK, but what is 4chan? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20022367)

Is that a TV channel? Could the fucking summary perhaps mean "channel four"? What about 7chan and 420chan? Same for those? Also, what the fuck is a "/b/ raid"?. I must not be as l337 as Miang, as I cannot understand him.

I cannot RTFA as there is none to read, well unless this counts:

MyFOX Los Angeles -- Hackers... phishing and cracking passwords, defacing Web sites, disrupting people's lives... and that's only the beginning for some. Phil Shuman tracks down so-called 'hacker gangs' in this FOX 11 investigation.
That is all the text available on the story, and I do not have the time to wait 90 minutes for a flash video to download over 28.8 Kbps dialup.

The question reoccurs to me. Is the text based internet dead? It seems everything is posted as video these days, everyone is too lazy to write anything down.

Re:OK, but what is 4chan? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20022403)

You know, a simple Google search of these terms would net you quite a wealth of information.

This question reoccurs to me. Is doing your own Google searches dead? It seems everything is posted as a message asking for people to do your research, everyone is too lazy to just type the terms up there in their search box and hit enter.

HA! (5, Insightful)

iminplaya (723125) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022385)

As long as they get this kind of press, they'll never get bored. The FOX story is a great recruitment piece.

/b/ is mainstream (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20022397)

Seriously, /b/ is so mainstream now, it beggars belief. Here is a Slashdot article that mentions it in passing without so much as stopping to explain the term. This was always going to happen. A group of people focused around memes, with a subset of them bent on spreading these memes to other sites? There is no more perfect recipe for notoriety than that. Rules 1 and 2 have completely failed, just as miserably as they would fail in a real-life fight club (where did those new members come from anyway?).

It's a shame really. For a short while, /b/ was a great little internet phenomenon. Anonymity, with all its baggage, and somehow no lawsuits. Now, though, the old guard is quickly moving on. Anybody who's frequented the site can attest to this.

As for the FOX clip... pure garbage. Most /b/tards call images "pictures", and directories "folders", and get confused between wallpaper images and desktop screenshots. The /i/nvasion people are a little closer to "hacker gangs", but even then, the "hacking" only ever amounts to SYN flooding and MySpace phishing.

Despite my pessimistic tone, I predict that "Anonymous" will continue to grow. As more and more attention is given to these "secret websites", more and more people are clamoring to become "hackers on steroids". This new Anonymous will be larger, with more brute force at his call, but at the same time stupider, and less apt to create entertaining content. And paradoxically, he'll be less anonymous than before. I see threads where a bunch of high-schoolers recognize each other based on posted photos and local memes. They greet each other by name and socialize. On /b/.

They say that raiding /b/ is liking pissing in an ocean of piss. But what if the people doing the raiding aren't pissing? What if they think this is a kickass beach where they can hang out and go for a swim with their friends and not worry about taking a piss while they do? It's not cancer, it's a full-on mutation.

Re:/b/ is mainstream (1)

skrolle2 (844387) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022443)

Ah, Paradise Lost, the oldest story of them all.

It will always happen, if something is really good and funny, news of it will spread, more people will come, and for every new person that comes, the original will be somewhat diluted, less good, less funny. Some people are true creators that add value, most are just consumers unfortunately. But people move on, and there will be a new place as good as /b/ was, it probably exists even now, but you and I don't know about it, and *if* I knew about it, I sure as hell wouldn't tell you. :-)

/huh?/ (2)

Chris Pimlott (16212) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022463)

Undefined terms in Slashdot summaries are indicative of poor editorial quality, not necessarily widespread familiarity. I have no idea what "/b/" is, let alone the rest of /terms/ used throughout your post. You seem to know what you're talking about; care to provide some background for us?

What are these terms? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20022417)

What is a /b/ raid? Etc?

bigger example please... (1)

3seas (184403) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022419)

Like how about the war drum banging that was done on deceiving many americans to support the war on iraq?

I believe it was fox national that would pull stuff like using split screens showing one thing, the narrator talking about another thing and a small box showing someone speaking in another language.

It made it appear that it was all related like the non-english speaker was talking about the larger picture being shown while the narrator appeared to be a translator. But none of them were related. And this happen daily in the build up of getting american support behind Bush.

Anyone with half a mind would see thru it, many didn't. Fox tried to make it obvious, as other networks also contributed in less obvious ways. There was even the setting up of what was called the "clear channel network" composed of TV and radio station.

Propoganda!!

Why did they do this?

Anthrax threats.....

I understand the person they tried to blame sued and got more then Richard Jewel did for being publicly accused of the 96 olympic centennial bombing..

No comspiracy needed. just one person with enough clearance at the US military base in teh US that the anthrax came from.

Even an idiot would realize how the politics of the country would play off the anthrax story.

It was an intentional threat against the media to get them to play the war drums in support of US attacking Iraq.

Bim Laden and Saddam are not the same person, regardless of what most supporting the war believe.

There is more that has not been told together, but it has been told and the information is findable on the internet.

911 was the result of extreamist using a genuinely real event Americans were seriously guilty of, as an excuse to do what they did, and the excuse was real and verifiable enough that it certainly helped the extreamist to promote a following of fools to help them.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/2704stock market.html [pbs.org]

That's a lot of money that is not going to just appear out of no where and vanish into nowhere.

What other financial things happened in the 90's?

The dotcom boom and bust... money came from somewhere to finance business with out a product or service... easy come easy go... for those who were able to get out in time.

For those who didn't get out in time... enron, worldcom and the likes, hiding their losses from the gamble.

Can Americans say they are sorry? Credit card interest rate dropping to 0% was an attempt. As the world bank offered to make a loan to south east asia countries like indonesia [80% muslim by CIA reports] where the trillion dollar bet drained financials badly, but with an interest rate.... that offer fell flat.....

The information is available, but no-one has yet put it together and communicated it to the masses. And whats his name "ferinheight 911" only provided distraction from the simple occums razor of "follow the money"...

Asking someone if they trust the news media is like asking them if they are stupid.

Networks use news as a vehicle to sell advertising space to. On a slow news day they will take an any hill and make it sound like a mountain to attract viewers. See how bad the ants are to home owners....

   

Up next on FOX... (1)

Luke Dawson (956412) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022423)

Sen. Ted Stevens addresses the Congress about the dangers of homeless people sleeping in the internet tubes.

And you're surprised? (2, Funny)

edwardpickman (965122) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022435)

You expected fair and balanced reporting from Fox News? Ever watch Fox News before? They're the first news service in history to qualify in the dramatic series category for the Emmy Awards.

Fox 11 Trolled (4, Insightful)

nitehawk214 (222219) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022471)

I dont know who that "Former Anonymous" they had on there was. But he is now the greatest Troll in internet history.

Congratulations, sir. You have my undying admiration for having the balls to do a RL troll the likes of which I have never seen before.

What's wrong with people. (5, Insightful)

iamdrscience (541136) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022475)

How is it that after all these years, there are still people who don't realize that nothing that happens on the internet is real? That hot chick you've been chatting with? There's a 95% chance she is a dude and a 5% chance that she is fat, ugly and crazy. That dude who told you he would slit your whole family's throats and shit down their esophaguses because you like original Star Trek better than the Next Generation? He's 12 years old. Porn sites that say their girls are having sex for the first time? They're lying. That e-mail you got from a guy in Nigeria who wants to give you money? You're not going to get it.

ad infinitum.

Anyone Who Hacks into a computer... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20022479)

...for fun or profit should be taken out and shot.

Re:Anyone Who Hacks into a computer... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20022503)

Anyone who believes violence is the key against intelligence should be fucked back and aborted.

what a load of BS .. (0, Redundant)

rs232 (849320) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022497)

"I've seven different passwords they've got them all so far", David

Have you considered using a 'computer' that isn't so easily compromised by 'computer hackers'. Your girlfriend left you? boo hoo hoo ...

"victims are asking why is this all happening to me"

Because you are using MS Bisto ..

"this hackers who wants us to hide his identity"

Not much of a 'hacker' if they have his home phone number and address already ..

--

key BS ..

destroy, fbi, hackers on steroids, internet hate machine, anti-semetic and racist, attack, death threats, die, domestic terrorists, domestic terrorists, electronic security, phone tracer, bought a dog, hackers on steroids, kill, mother is fighting, online childerns games, rape, whole family under attack ...

AC/DT -- LOLZ 0x07'z (1)

Joebert (946227) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022509)

I'm rolling thunder, on your myspace page
I'm messin it up like a hurricane
My LULZ is flashing, across the web
You switched to Linux but I switched to deb
I won't leave no pictures, won't spare no drives
Nobody's usin, firewalls right
I got my 0x07'z I'm gonna get LOLZ
I'm gonna get ya, MSN or AIM & get ya

LOLZ 0x07'z
LOLZ 0x07'z, you got me pinging
LOLZ 0x07'z, your latency's high
LOLZ 0x07'z

New "inspirational" poster needed. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20022535)

FOX News
We prey upon luddites.

On to us! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20022545)

Shit lads, they're on to us! Quick, everyone start using our real names so they can't track us!

Is that some... (1)

Dragon By Proxy (1063904) | more than 6 years ago | (#20022555)

The segment, which focuses mainly on users at 4chan, 7chan, and 420chan, seems to confuse /b/ raids and motivational poster templates with a genuine threat to the American public.


... broken rules one and two there?
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