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Dateline NBC Mole Outed At DefCon

Zonk posted more than 6 years ago | from the bunch-of-cranky-hackers dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "Dateline NBC allegedly attempted to infiltrate the DefCon hackerfest with a producer using a hidden camera. The show hoped to tape hackers admitting to illegal activities, but DefCon got wind of the plot and displayed the would-be-mole's photo before every presentation. Dateline refused to deny the planned infiltration. 'All journalists covering DefCon sign an agreement upon registering for the conference that outlines the rules, but the DefCon organizers say the mole apparently registered as a regular attendee, thereby bypassing the legal agreement. Dateline NBC is best known for its controversial To Catch A Predator series, which uses hidden cameras to tape men who are allegedly seeking to have sex with minors they met online.'"

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Despicable (1, Insightful)

boyko.at.netqos (1024767) | more than 6 years ago | (#20108807)

Not that "To Entrap A Predator" was good, but this hidden camera, secret registration bull goes against just about every ethical journalistic rule I can think of. They should be charged with violations against wiretap laws for pulling this stunt.

Re:Despicable (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20108855)

A picture of the mole is available here [tinyurl.com] .

Re: ATTN slashdot admins (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20109135)

Please detect and replace links to tinyurl.com with links to preview.tinyurl.com. This will help prevent trolls like the parent from getting away with "goatse" like images.

Media believes it is above the law ... (5, Insightful)

AHumbleOpinion (546848) | more than 6 years ago | (#20108959)

They should be charged with violations against wiretap laws for pulling this stunt.

The media believes it is above the law, and from a practical sense it often is. The media confuses the absolute right to print whatever they discover with a right to do anything they care to, legal or not, in order to obtain that info. They have the former (print) but not the later (discover). However many in power are so dependent on the media to obtain or keep their positions of power they rarely go after the media.

Don't get me wrong, I believe the media is an important check to the power of government. However the law is supposed to be a check on the media's abusive behaviors.

"That'll make good TV." (5, Interesting)

Original Replica (908688) | more than 6 years ago | (#20108987)

Speaking of "Entrap a Predator" and to give you an idea of what passes for journalistic ethics at NBC:

NEW YORK - The sister of a man who was suspected of being a sexual predator and killed himself as the cameras of "Dateline NBC" closed in on him sued NBC Universal Inc. on Monday for $105 million, accusing it of taking over police duties and then failing to protect her brother...She said in the lawsuit NBC "steam-rolled" police to arrest her brother, also known as Bill, after telling police he failed to show up at a sting operation 35 miles away. http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/07/23/ap394307 9.html [forbes.com]


Ratings are more important than real news, truth, or helping someone with an obvious problem. I love how when a TV station is selling ad space they market the ablity to influence the public, but when they air programs that serve to lower the ethical or intellectual standings of America, tehy claim "We just give the people what they want." Which is it? Does the public control the TV or does the TV control the public?

Re:"That'll make good TV." (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20109047)

Some pervert off'ed himself? Why the fuck should I care? Good riddance.

Re:"That'll make good TV." (5, Insightful)

MikeBabcock (65886) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109265)

Nobody ever proved he was a pervert, nobody witnessed him committing a crime, and arguably someone else's actions caused him harm. Sounds like you need your brain wiring fixed.

Just because someone can be almost entrapped (he didn't show up) doesn't mean they're a criminal, that's why entrapment's illegal in the first place. Take a psychology course, then one in ethics and come back to the argument with your neurons working at full speed.

Re:Despicable (3, Insightful)

TheSHAD0W (258774) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109007)

I think that, in any sort of event with open registration, you're fooling yourself if you don't think you're subject to covert surveillance. What would your opinion be if a private person, not a member of the media, used a hidden video camera to tape the proceedings?

Dateline NBC is an obnoxious show but come on, we've already achieved the surveillance society, and big brother, little brother and all the brothers around and in between are watching you.

Only be honest to your clergy, doctor or lawyer (2, Insightful)

AHumbleOpinion (546848) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109075)

Only be honest to your clergy, doctor or lawyer. Well with respect to past events that could get you into trouble, don't mention future plans to do so. ;-) Hmmm ... what if a journalist impersonated a member of the clergy, a doctor or a lawyer to get info. You know, I bet they have done it already.

Lets hope the nbc tech team can handle 'security' (1)

sjwest (948274) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109089)

I don't she will be doing tv for a while, lets just hope nbc can handle the problems that mismanged stunts bring.

revenge is dish best served cold

Re:Despicable (1)

zussal (1058116) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109271)

Are they supposed to say, "Hey Hackers, I wanna ask what illegal activities you do. Can we talk?".

Brilliant (5, Insightful)

Alchemist253 (992849) | more than 6 years ago | (#20108809)

Attempt to carry out what is basically technological espionage against some of the best technological espionage people in the world... real smart move.

Re:Brilliant (5, Funny)

Asmor (775910) | more than 6 years ago | (#20108863)

Seriously, I think merely being outed is probably the best that this guy could have hoped for. Woulda rocked if they'd fucked around with him instead.

"Whoa, never seen you before. Ah, what the hell, you look trustworthy. But before I tell you the details of my pub with 4 TB of CP I need you to do something for me... First, I need to know what size hat you wear and if you have any food allergies."

Re:Brilliant (4, Funny)

RobertLTux (260313) | more than 6 years ago | (#20108895)

and next year Defcon will mod its civilian signup to close this loophole.

Note to the Muggles DO NOT TRY TO OUT TRICK A GROUP OF WIZARDS

this is darwin grade 2 guiness guys F[redacted] Brilliant!!

Now watch some NBC server will go wheels up "for no reason"

Re:Brilliant (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20109059)

You wanna know something? I'm tempted to set up something like this so I can sell the film to NBC. I find it despicable that you guys are siding with the people who learn these things so that they can cause harm.

Re:Brilliant (3, Funny)

Starteck81 (917280) | more than 6 years ago | (#20108935)

I guess they'll be adding "spot the undercover journalist" game to go along with the traditional "spot the fed" game.

Seriously, how do they expect to blend in with nerds, we can smell non-nerds a mile away. Sexual predators are dumb compulsion driven. Nerds are for the most part smarter and more aware, you may get one or two to say something stupid but that's a long way from catching a room full of 'hackers' plotting to bring down the Pentagon.

Re:Brilliant (5, Funny)

wytcld (179112) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109025)

Ah, but NBC doesn't have to worry about hackers out for retaliation. What with their history of partnership with Microsoft (MSNBC) they must have the most secure computer systems on Earth.

Re:Brilliant. Brilliant. (0, Redundant)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109099)

Ah, but NBC doesn't have to worry about hackers out for retaliation. What with their history of partnership with Microsoft (MSNBC) they must have the most secure computer systems on Earth.

Most. Secure. Computer. Systems.

ROFLMAO.

Oh, man, that was funny!

Re:Brilliant (1)

spiffmastercow (1001386) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109107)

Maybe smarter than you'd think... If I were going to try this stunt, I'd throw in a few decoys like her to keep the spotlight away from the real infiltrator. But still, all you're going to get doing that is a few script kiddies admitting to outrageous hacks that never really happened. On a side note, does anyone actually use the term 'script kiddie' anymore? I haven't heard it in years..

Re:Brilliant (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20109173)

Got to admit though, she has balls. (ducks)

Hack (1)

Blue Stone (582566) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109219)

Not a 'predator' - but a hacker: she tried to hack the system - by registering as a regular attendee and thereby bypassing the legal agreement). OK, so she failed - miserably - but at least she deserves the tag of 'hack' on /. :-)

Just think of what the ratings would have been... (2, Funny)

Pfhortytwo (1024837) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109259)

...had they pulled this off.

I mean, how could the average Dateline viewer *not* want to see this? What viewer in their right mind wouldn't relish to chance to see a group of balding overweight hackers, garbed in black t-shirts (with obligitary armpit stains) working on laptops for _hours_ on end?! It's TV magic!

First clue (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20108813)

Should have been that she's a woman

Here's some of their hidden camera footage (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20108819)

Re:Here's some of their hidden camera footage (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20108949)

How can something that sounds so good, be so evil?

Still, if nothing else, that song gives me strength to stay together with my tubby girlfriend, if only to not give her up!

How unoriginal (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20108825)

They could've had some real fun with her had they not exposed her so quickly.

The real question is... (3, Funny)

DreamingReal (216288) | more than 6 years ago | (#20108827)

... did he bring the condoms and beer? In the producer's defense, I'm sure he just wanted to be friends with the hackers and talk with them, nothing more.

Re:The real question is... (3, Funny)

HaeMaker (221642) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109195)

Um, yea. Read the article, and check out the cleavage. Those aren't man-boobs.

Great way to not attract attention... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20108837)

By sending a -woman- to a computer hacking event. :)

to catch a predator (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20108853)

you know why you haven't seen pederast Neil "Cowboy Neil" Pater on "to catch a predator?" Because they've only gone after heterosexuals.

Hmmmm (5, Informative)

atari2600 (545988) | more than 6 years ago | (#20108871)

Which makes you wonder (3, Insightful)

fistfullast33l (819270) | more than 6 years ago | (#20108957)

How was she going to fit in at a hacker conference?

A hacker of sorts (2, Insightful)

megaditto (982598) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109013)

Women tend to be good at social engineering and networking. She might be pretty good at 'hacking' horny geek brains.

Re:Which makes you wonder (1)

buswolley (591500) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109181)

After seeing her picture, I realize that NBC is dumber than I thought. Then again.. they hired her.

Re:Which makes you wonder (1)

markov_chain (202465) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109269)

Well she was a professional actor, if necessary she could impersonate a 14 year old girl, or a boy, or whatever.

Re:Hmmmm (4, Funny)

megaditto (982598) | more than 6 years ago | (#20108971)

Wouldn't it be funny if she were outed as the original tubgirl? Ultimate payback for nosing around, eh?

Journalistic Standards (5, Funny)

mdenham (747985) | more than 6 years ago | (#20108879)

Aside from the fact that what Dateline does can only be called "news" in a very loose sense, isn't this the kind of BS we should be expecting from Fox News?

Or would they already be trumpeting how they got kicked out by the HACKERS ON STEROIDS?

Re:Journalistic Standards (1, Informative)

WilliamSChips (793741) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109085)

4chan deserves any slander it can get. 4channers are the scum of the internet, and the sooner that site is taken off the web, the better.

Re:Journalistic Standards (1)

mdenham (747985) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109121)

If you really believe that 4chan is where the scum of the Internet is, you obviously haven't visited any of the other *chans.

I suggest you visit Gurochan. It might raise your opinion of 4chan.

Re:Journalistic Standards (2, Funny)

weak* (1137369) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109167)

... what Dateline does can only be called "news" in a very loose sense...
I think you mean lose sense.

That's clever (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20108887)

Dateline refused to deny the planned infiltration.
So there was someone trying to get them to deny the whole thing? Is that some kind of reverse psychology?

Dateline Sucks Now (0, Offtopic)

Lost Engineer (459920) | more than 6 years ago | (#20108893)

Dateline NBC is best known for its controversial To Catch A Predator series, which uses hidden cameras to tape men who are allegedly seeking to have sex with minors they met online.'
I used to like this show, but it has gone way down hill. The stories are no longer news, and the predator shows get old fast. Apparently they're the only thing that get ratings though, because they keep on making them.

Please stop.

Dateline NBC isnt news. Its just another TV show (5, Insightful)

Jackie_Chan_Fan (730745) | more than 6 years ago | (#20108905)

Good for the Hackers. Fuck NBC and their bullshit. They wouldnt have presented a fair story anyways. They were out to paint all hackers in a bad light and produce yet another sensational story which i'm sure would have ended up with the word terrorism in it.

Dateline should stick to entrapment. It seems that they're far better at entrapping lonely horny guys and ruining their lives for tv ratings.

Re:Dateline NBC isnt news. Its just another TV sho (4, Insightful)

sqrt(2) (786011) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109093)

I hate their To Catch A Predatory series. The questionable legality should be obvious to anyone. I don't like being in a position where I'm defending alleged pedophiles, but the law is there to protect everyone, even the accused (who sometimes need extra protection because of their vulnerable position). Never at any point was there an actual child who was in danger, no actual crime was committed. It's staged from end to end and yet they completely gloss over that part when their over dramatized edited version of what happens gets aired. This sort of vigilantism is not helpful to society. NBC are the real pornographers here, and sadly it seems people can't get enough of it.

Keep on catching the predators! (1)

Man in Spandex (775950) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109227)

There is nothing wrong with a horny guy but there is something very wrong with a horny guy who wants sexual relations with a kid. Does it ruin their life to be on national television? Possibly. I say so be it, make them understand how serious it is.

I say if it takes something "illegal" such as using hidden cameras that no one agree's with to catch something even "more illegal", then that's fine. Catch them and make them understand. The worst is when in the early shows when there were no cops, the molester would leave and within 24 hours would try again and was caught again. I donno about you but I can't see how you can defend the man who wants sex with a kid versus the hidden cameramen spying and trying to catch these people.

And ruining their lives for tv ratings? Well, at least at the same they're showing to the viewers how molesters pull it off and then you might hopefully have parents who are more aware of what their kids do on the internet and not do jack shit until it happens to them.

ROFL (4, Insightful)

drix (4602) | more than 6 years ago | (#20108915)

LOL! You mean.. you mean to tell me that that [wired.com] was going to pass as a DefCon hacker [mccullagh.org] ? That is just a great end to my Friday.

The only thing surprising here was that they had to be tipped off.

Re:ROFL (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20108963)

The DefCon guys probably didn't look at her face long enough to realize she was female.

They probably just saw the cleavage around the nametag and thought, "Man, if that was a dumb girl who had boobs like that, and she went to DefCon, I bet I could get into her pants. It's too bad that the girls who go to DefCon are usually smart."

And then they saw that she was an idiot and a woman, and realized it was too good to be true.

NBC executives: Their mothers tie their shoes. (2, Funny)

Futurepower(R) (558542) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109033)

Thinking that she would not be detected certainly puts an upper limit on the intelligence of NBC executives.

Re:ROFL (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20109101)

LOL! You mean.. you mean to tell me that that [wired.com] was going to pass as a DefCon hacker [mccullagh.org]? That is just a great end to my Friday.

She's only a decoy, the wizard's distraction to hide the prestige.

Re:ROFL (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20109103)

They've obviously never been to DefCon, or they would have stuck her in a basement for a year or two with only Fritos to eat before even attempting to send her undercover there.

And talk about low hanging fruit. The people doing the newsworthy illegal stuff online aren't the ones going to DefCon in trench coats and bragging about it.

Well, maybe one or two. But half the people there now are security consultants or feds, and most of the other half are just there to be in on the cool hacker scene.

simple freedom of the press (5, Insightful)

aka-ed (459608) | more than 6 years ago | (#20108917)

should Journalists identify hemselves to the chef before eating at a restaurant under review? Reporters are representatives of their readers; I want MY reporters to be able to go anywhere without revealing their identity. When ABC's hidden cameras revealed that Food Lion was deliberately selling "iffy" meat, Food Lion sued on the basis of reporters falsifying employment applications. The courts eventually found in ABC's favor, as they should have! I'm sympathetic to hackers, but they deserve no special protection from the press.

Re:simple freedom of the press (0, Troll)

Kazymyr (190114) | more than 6 years ago | (#20108967)

And I am sympathetic to you and your wife, but that doesn't mean the press shouldn't be allowed in your bedroom.

Re:simple freedom of the press (1)

aka-ed (459608) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109079)

If the activities in my bedroom had any effect on the public weal, I would consider it a duty of the press to investigate, even while the government is constitutionally prohibited from doing so.

Re:simple freedom of the press (2, Interesting)

JamesRose (1062530) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109003)

It's a totally different thing. The reason is that the hacker case is they are recording people talk about crimes, the talk may or may not be true. The recording you talk about second is an actual recording of a crime taking place-it's a completely different thing. I know many people who would claim to do something illegal if it were socially advantageous (unfortunately that doesn't say much, I'm 16). I would agree that if ABC had gone in with the intention of recording someone actually carry out a crime and had reason to beleive a crime would be committed, that would be true, but instead basically what they were trying to do was talk the people into confessing.

Re:simple freedom of the press (1)

aka-ed (459608) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109119)

They are pursuing a story, not a conviction; when someone brags of breaking the law, it's newsworthy, even if it's only talk, and even if the law is ridiculous.

Re:simple freedom of the press (2, Insightful)

HeaththeGreat (708430) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109081)

I don't see wired pleading for special treatment. If dateline had been smart enough to catch a hacker talking about illegal activities, more power to them. The point of the story is that you need to be really good at subversion to outsmart the most subversive and paranoid among us.

The moral of the story is that hackers are smart; child molesters are dumb.

Re:simple freedom of the press (4, Funny)

Bassman59 (519820) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109247)

The point of the story is that you need to be really good at subversion to outsmart the most subversive and paranoid among us.

I'm sure the git and the bitkeeper people might have something to say about that.

It's fine to out her... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20109109)

but the only way to insure that DefCon can report and publish what they want is to permit MSNBC (and anyone else) to report and publish what they want.

Re:simple freedom of the press (1)

masdog (794316) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109115)

should Journalists identify hemselves to the chef before eating at a restaurant under review?

Usually, they do. Why? They get a free, or reduced cost, meal and the best food in the house. That, and restaurant usually begs the local food critic to come through and review because it would draw people in.

This case is different, though. As another poster in this thread stated, they are trying to get people to confess to crimes they may or may not have committed. In a situation like DefCon, you're bound to get a few people talking about real hacks, but you will also get some people who make outrageous claims in order to boost their standing and/or self-esteem.

Re:simple freedom of the press (1)

aka-ed (459608) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109163)

"usually they do." Yes, if they work for the penny shopper. Call a respectable newspaper and they'll be glad to explain things to you.

Re:simple freedom of the press (1)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109165)

Yep, I agree. And I think that the people at DefCon have every right to hunt for and catch moles too. Let the games begin!

Re:simple freedom of the press (1)

aka-ed (459608) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109215)

I have no objection to outing the mole and warning attendees, but the way they went about it suggests they're hiding something. I would have put up his picture with a message to welcome the NBC reporter, and encourage everyone's cooperation in NBC's coverage.

Have some fun with him (0)

halcyon1234 (834388) | more than 6 years ago | (#20108921)

I would have thought that they'd have some more fun with him before outing him. Give him a false itinerary that keeps him moving back and forth through the hotel to rooms that don't exist. Stage-whisper around him about "the meeting at 4pm in Meeting Room C". Stuff like that.

Hell, at the very least, they could have man-in-the-middled his wifi connection. Read his report before he filed it. Maybe make some tweaks to it and see what gets overlooked and put on the air. Redirect his Google.com to goatse or something.

Posting his picture is so-- boring.

best known? (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20108933)

Dateline NBC is best known for its controversial To Catch A Predator series, which uses hidden cameras to tape men who are allegedly seeking to have sex with minors they met online.

Best known for that? I think they are best known for rigging a pickup truck to explode [whatreallyhappened.com] when they crashed it so that it would look good on tv.

Their credibility is a wee bit low.

Was there really a mole at DL or.... (1)

UncleTogie (1004853) | more than 6 years ago | (#20108941)

...were our brethren simply walking around with bug-sweepers? It'd be nice to find out what equipment she was using to record... Our shop also does CCTV work, and I've seen some scary new models/combos of concealed cameras/DVRs available. Shirt buttons, pen cams, wall clocks, ties, even sprinkler heads...

What really happened: (3, Funny)

Spy der Mann (805235) | more than 6 years ago | (#20108955)

Hacker: Look! Behind that mask hides a reporter from Dateline NBC!
Reporter: And i would've gotten away with it, if it weren't for these meddling kids!

Fox News (5, Funny)

ZeroFactorial (1025676) | more than 6 years ago | (#20108985)

Their first tipoff was her "Windows Vista" t-shirt.

I can see the NBC headline now... "EXPLICIT picture of Dateline journalist EXPOSED at hacker conference!"

Bad NBC (4, Insightful)

dotslashdot (694478) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109021)

That dateline guy is really annoying and smug. He seems to take pleasure at lording over others' predicaments/fear. The predator series is just plain wrong for many reasons. It's pretty much entrapment, especially because the men are convinced by the girl at the end to enter the house even though they seem apprehensive. And what's up with the tackling every guy by the cop, even the ones who surrender? Does NBC host the show Big Brother? Because these jackasses seem to be helping bypass civil liberties by unlawfully spying on everyone and inducing them to commit and confess to stuff that is probably not even illegal, or that they would not have done/followed through on, but for the shows.

Re:Bad NBC (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20109083)

by even soliciting a what they think is a minor for sex they have already committed a crime

Just meet in a two party consent State (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20109027)

And then they would have to get consent to make an audio recording of anyone. And if they didn't, then it would be the MS NBC reporter going to jail or paying a fine.

Re:Just meet in a two party consent State (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20109273)

They could still run transcripts and keep everything anonymous. It would still be an interesting piece and if anything shady was uncovered, it might still prompt investigations.

Nevada is a One-party Consent to Tape State (4, Insightful)

redelm (54142) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109045)

Unlike California, Nevada (and most the rest) are One-Party Consent to Tape [pimall.com] jurisdictions. So the NBC observer broke no law.

And I rather doubt DEFCON can impose any boilerplate contractual terms on its' attendees. Most would revolt! Few would agree the sky is blue.

OK (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20109051)

The fact that she's a she already stretches credibility, but then she had to attempt the impossible: disguise herself as a blonde as well.

Spot the NBC Reporter! Get a t-shirt! (1)

Bluesman (104513) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109149)

Ok, first one who can replace an on-the-air Dateline program with scenes from "Hackers" wins.

Can't be just an affiliate in the middle of Kansas though, it has to be a major metropolitan area.

Re:Spot the NBC Reporter! Get a t-shirt! (1)

rahvin112 (446269) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109217)

On the contrary. Their terms require that members of government agencies, or working for government agencies or the press must identify themselves. These terms are quite welcome by the attendees of the conference. In fact IIRC they have a spot the fed competition every year.

Sore thumb (2, Funny)

Joebert (946227) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109153)

I want to know who the genius that decided to send a blue-eyed blonde haired female to a computer hacking event "undercover" was.

NBC Dateline is FAMOUS for playing fast and loose (1)

stevew (4845) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109157)

I do believe it was Dateline - but definately NBC news division anyway that back in the late 80's was trying to make a case against Ford for their pickups blowing up during side impacts. They showed footage on the air of this happening....forgetting to mention the TNT they added to make sure they got good film.

Don't remember all the consequences - but haven't trusted NBC news since then.

Gender gap? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20109209)

Interesting how many non-RTFA'ers just assume it's a guy as the mole.

Of course, my suspicion is they send a ringer.. and some other passable mole from another network (or worse) never gets outed...

Can you say WRIETAP (1)

kevorkian (142533) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109233)

In this day and age when you get charged with a felony for taping a police officer while he performs his duty. Wouldn't something like this violate wiretapping laws. I assume that there must be a "attempted" version of the crime.And im SURE she meant to record audio in addition to the video.

NBC Voyuerism (4, Insightful)

ThatsNotPudding (1045640) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109251)

There is something deeply disturbing about this trend that NBC is spearheading. It is sick and twisted in itself to want to watch and see (AND BAIT) the 'scum of the earth' that are arrayed against You and Your CHILDREN!!! You know where the children are most safe from crime? Police States. And sadly, there are so many stupid, scared people in this country who make that deal in a heartbeat. Provided they are still regailed by entertaining tales of cruelty, sadism, and murder.

"They Thought of The Children" will be carved on the tombstones of free societies.

When Journalist is Justice.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20109255)

we are doomed. I vote for Separation of Media and State Amendment.

"Why don't you have a seat right here." (1)

INeedAttention.com (958052) | more than 6 years ago | (#20109281)

Don't the conference rules specifically prohibit cameras? Isn't Dateline all about exposing frauds (and perverts)? Did she not falsely, nigh fraudulently, misrepresent her identity for personal gain? If you are as shocked and outraged as I that <sarcasm>journalists of such high regard</sarcasm> would sink to levels that one would expect from Rupert Murdoch's News Corp, contact Michelle and let her know how you feel! Michelle.Madigan@nbcuni.com
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