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Space Hotel to Open in 2012

Zonk posted more than 7 years ago | from the l5-or-l4 dept.

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blackdefiance writes "The New York Times is reporting that firm plans for the first hotel in space are now in the works. Slated for a 2012 opening, 'Galactic Suite' will cost about $4 million for a three-day stay. 'They may have solved the issue of how to take a shower in weightlessness -- the guests will enter a spa room in which bubbles of water will float around. When guests are not admiring the view from their portholes they will take part in scientific experiments on space travel. Galactic Suite began as a hobby for former aerospace engineer Claramunt, until a space enthusiast decided to make the science fiction fantasy a reality by fronting most of the $3 billion needed to build the hotel. An American company intent on colonizing Mars, which sees Galaxy Suite as a first step, has since come on board, and private investors from Japan, the United States and the United Arab Emirates are in talks.'"

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2012? Damn. (4, Funny)

OmgTEHMATRICKS (836103) | more than 7 years ago | (#20193439)

The new space hotel sounds great, but a flight to space conflicts with the part of my schedule where I'm slated to die during the apocalypse.

Re:2012? Damn. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20193601)

All of the apocalypse stories that I've heard talk about some doom that is going to happen on the Earth. It seems like that would be the perfect time to take a vacation in orbit.

Re:2012? Damn. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20194037)

Only billionnaires need apply!

Re:2012? Damn. (2, Insightful)

somersault (912633) | more than 7 years ago | (#20194239)

Don't worry, we're all going to get rich selling avatars on Second Life! Haven't you heard?

Re:2012? Damn. (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 7 years ago | (#20194971)

IT would be nice for the apocalypse to wipe out a lot of the billionaires like the evil ones like mr burns.

Re:2012? Damn. (1)

somersault (912633) | more than 7 years ago | (#20196807)

Psst.. Mr Burns isn't real.

He's just an animatronic device controlled by Smithers. Smithers is the true evil.

Re:2012? Damn. (1)

Wolfrider (856) | more than 7 years ago | (#20196575)

--Erm... It's said that Teh Apocalypse may actually involve ASTEROIDS // debris from space... Guess who gets hit 1st then?

--Regardless; I may apply for an Ops position at the Space Hyatt (or whatever) if this really happens. Instead of paying $millions, I get paid to WORK IN SPACE. How freakin' cool would that be? ;-)

Re:2012? Damn. (1)

Proofof. Chaos (1067060) | more than 7 years ago | (#20197067)

Actually, I think OmgTEHMATRICKS is referring specifically to the apocalypse stories based on the end of the Mayan calender. December 21st, 2012, is the last day of their 5,125 year calander, leading some to believe that that date signifies the end of time (and the universe i gather). If that were true, it wouldn't matter where you were, as long as you were still in the universe.

The theory is pretty convincing if you look at all the other weird things expected to happen that year at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012 [wikipedia.org] .

* Second and last solar transit of the planet Venus of this century
* July 1 -- The first possible government in Hong Kong elected by Universal suffrage take office - Like the Chinese will ever let that happen.
* October 19 -- at 1:36 UTC, the Earth will be home to 7 billion people
* November 6 -- United States presidential election, 2012 - Like Emperor Bush will ever let that happen
* NASA's new Orion spacecraft is scheduled to become fully operational for International Space Station support flights - Like NASA will ever actually complete anything.
* the Sun will also reverse its own magnetic poles during 2012 as result of reaching the end of the current 11-year sunspot cycle
* The Canadian Navy receives the delivery of the first Joint Support Ship - Canada has a Navy?
* asteroid 2004MN4 comes into view again to recalculate odds of impact. - Scientist: "is that 2004MN4, that fiery thing that takes up half the sky."
And finally,
* Charles Manson will be eligible for a parole hearing again - Nuff said.

First Space HOTEL, then Universities, AWESOME !! (2, Funny)

posys (1120031) | more than 7 years ago | (#20194355)

The sooner the better and this little room in the sky will give people a healthy perspective on the BIG PICTURE, and how we each need each other, how beautiful the earth is, how we each need the same things, and how similar each culture is.

This small step will help open the flood gates similar to when ships set sail in the maritime revolution, and bars and inns sprang up in new ports all over the world.

We talk about this and how ROBOTS will soon be doing ALL our work ushering in what we call

The Age of Recreation via the Emancipation of Humanity from the Machinery of Economy via the "ROBOTIC WAGELESS ECONOMY" [teaminfinity.com]

read more here: http://teaminfinity.com/ROBO_SPACE_HOTEL [teaminfinity.com]

We need your help to make it happen in our lifetimes... Talk it up, spread the great news/memes

Posys did you cause a /. DDoS for teaminfinity.com (1)

OldHawk777 (19923) | more than 7 years ago | (#20196017)

Yes you did, it is all your fault, they will thank you tomorrow, I will thank you today for something that pricked my curiosity.

Yes, I am human; Therefor, my curiosity may get me in to unknown situations sometimes,
and fycked at other times (some sort of possibly pleasurable quantum effect), but it
will never intentionally get me killed or stuck in a wall.

Re:2012? Damn. (1)

morari (1080535) | more than 7 years ago | (#20195299)

Though a Mayan prediction (and not even really of the End but a new beginning), I can't wait for the Apocalypse, or more specifically the Rapture. The moment when all the Christians world over suddenly disappear will be a great day!

Re:2012? Damn. (1)

nyekulturniy (413420) | more than 7 years ago | (#20195461)

But then, if the Christians disappear as they say they will, wouldn't it mean that they were right? And there would be an Antichrist and a Great Tribulation? If only Christians disappear, it infers that their POV is the correct one, everyone else is wrong, and things go bad quickly.

Re:2012? Damn. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20196845)

On balance though, it would still be a positive thing.

Re:2012? Damn. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20196819)

Everyone always looks at this Mayan 2012 shit as an apolcalyptic prediction, but afaik it's not really that specific. It just talks about the end of a major era. Even though we all know this space hotel deal isn't really going to happen in 2012, it'd be cool if it did. The mayans would be on to something if we look at 2012 as the year we begin to seriously begin civilian space exploration. Think about it, I think that counts as a dawn of a new age.

About time (2, Insightful)

Eesu (903236) | more than 7 years ago | (#20193459)

Its about time some private people and companies start taking a major interest in space.

Re:About time (-1, Troll)

TodMinuit (1026042) | more than 7 years ago | (#20193669)

Yeah, 'cause there's just SUCH a business opportunity in space... Wait, no there isn't!

Re:About time (1)

satoshi1 (794000) | more than 7 years ago | (#20193945)

Not yet there isn't. They'll find a way to make money off it, I'm sure.

Re:About time (2, Insightful)

drooling-dog (189103) | more than 7 years ago | (#20194399)

Yes, and since private companies will face none of the safety and testing issues that folks like NASA have to contend with, they should be able to just slap this together and start shuttling paying tourists up there in no time. I'm surprised it's even going to take 5 years!

5 years? Bullshit? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20195393)

I'll believe that when they get the first pieces of equipment up there. In the mean
time, I'll chalk that time up to the usual corporate smoke blowing.

Re:About time (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20196277)

>> Yes, and since private companies will face none of the safety and testing issues that folks like NASA have to contend with, they should be able to just slap this together and start shuttling paying tourists up there in no time.

And, just WHO is the company going to call to save the tourists' asses when things get fscked-up up there? I hope to hell MY tax dollars aren't spent for NASA to attempt something - at present, THEY don't even have the tech to save their own people.

Re:About time (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20194773)

Since companies serve people on Earth, it's a bit nonsensical for them to have an interest in space.
So far, communications satellites are profitable. What other money making schemes are there in an age where sending anything into space is extremely expensive?
Big fricken' lasers on the moon and blackmail?

Should we entrust space travel... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20193467)

...to someone who uses the phrase 'shuttle rocket'


Did he design this station on his PC computer?

Re:Should we entrust space travel... (1)

tomhudson (43916) | more than 7 years ago | (#20195507)

"...to someone who uses the phrase 'shuttle rocket'"

... you mean like the Delta Clipper project? [wikipedia.org] .

Higher paying jobs. (1)

cyanyde (976442) | more than 7 years ago | (#20193477)

This is how we keep the economy afloat.

Launch Vehicle (1)

Fenresulven (516459) | more than 7 years ago | (#20193479)

How are they going to get people on and off the station?
My first thought was Dragon, but according to the SpaceX website the price for even the cheapest Falcon9 to LEO is 35 million, with a suggested price of 4 million for a three day stay and the Dragon capsule being capable of carrying 7 people this can't possibly be profitable (or even close to break even).
Anyone know what launch vehicle they're planning to use?

Re:Launch Vehicle (4, Funny)

pluther (647209) | more than 7 years ago | (#20193503)

the price for even the cheapest Falcon9 to LEO is 35 million, with a suggested price of 4 million for a three day stay and the Dragon capsule being capable of carrying 7 people this can't possibly be profitable

$4 million is just the room charge.

Transportation is extra.

You don't want to know what delivery costs for the pizza.

Re:Launch Vehicle (4, Funny)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 7 years ago | (#20193763)

You don't want to know what delivery costs for the pizza.

I bet Chinese food will be quite economical by that time.

Re:Launch Vehicle (1)

tazsl (1133503) | more than 7 years ago | (#20195561)

Winguardium Leviosa !!

Ron,would you like to see my magic wand?--H.P.

Re:Launch Vehicle (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20194049)

You don't want to know what delivery costs for the pizza.

But you won't have to pay unless they can get it to you within 30 minutes

Skeptical (4, Insightful)

FleaPlus (6935) | more than 7 years ago | (#20193505)

Despite being a pretty hardcore private space proponent, I'm rather skeptical about this. I could be wrong, but it seems that all Claramunt has is a design and backing from an anonymous funding source. Meanwhile, Bigelow Aerospace [wikipedia.org] has a couple of working prototypes in orbit right now, and by 2012 plans to lease entire orbital facilities for $88 million/year (or $18 million for an 2-month stay).

Also, I'm guessing the cited figure of "$4 million for a three-day stay" doesn't include the cost of getting to orbit in the first place. For a Soyuz flight, that's at least $20 million per person.

Re:Skeptical (1)

swokm (1140623) | more than 7 years ago | (#20193627)

Yes, but who's going to pay to enter an inflatable when he could get inside the real thing for the same price?

Re:Skeptical (1)

FleaPlus (6935) | more than 7 years ago | (#20193701)

> Yes, but who's going to pay to enter an inflatable when he could get inside the real thing for the same price?

Huh? What do you mean by "real thing"?

Re:Skeptical (1)

swokm (1140623) | more than 7 years ago | (#20193879)

Er... it was a joke. You know, how Bigelow's habs are sort of tough, inflatable fabric as opposed to the traditional "tin can" style.

You know what ELSE some weirdos could 'enter' that is inflatable... ;) I'm apparently the least funny mofo on the damned planet. :(

Sigh. I am so depressed now.

Re:Skeptical (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20193975)

I understood your joke immediately. Cheer up.

Slashdot is a notoriously tough audience. Its hard to tell jokes to geeks becuause their inherent autism causes them to disect gags all the time.

Re:Skeptical (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20194013)

I'm pretty sure he was making fun of the fact that for slashdotters, inflatable is the real thing...

Re:Skeptical (1)

FleaPlus (6935) | more than 7 years ago | (#20196909)

You know what ELSE some weirdos could 'enter' that is inflatable... ;) I'm apparently the least funny mofo on the damned planet. :(

Oh, hah, sorry, I -totally- missed that joke. ;)

Re:Skeptical (1)

pipingguy (566974) | more than 7 years ago | (#20194061)

The cost is staggering, but hey, there are a helluva lot worse ways to spend 45 million dollars for those that have the resources.

Re:Skeptical (1)

tomhudson (43916) | more than 7 years ago | (#20195565)

Regarding your sig: "Morality is doing the right thing; ethics is doing the right thing even when you know no one is watching you."

So, we could say that paranoid people are the only people who are ethical by nature :-)

Re:Skeptical (1)

pipingguy (566974) | more than 7 years ago | (#20195703)

I guess that's one way of looking at it. By the way, how did you get my email address, are you the CIA again?
:)

Re:Skeptical (1)

WindBourne (631190) | more than 7 years ago | (#20194575)

I am guessing that the article is talking about bigelow's. Keep in mind that bigelow will sell a module for 100 million (and that was the ba-330) in 2005 money. But the 3 man version is suppose to be in orbit around 2010-2011 and is known as the Galaxy. Bigelow is probably looking to get one of the galaxies attached to the ISS for a year or 2 (you did notice the attempt to allow private enterprise to make use of the ISS). Later, it will be replaced with a BA-330. After that time, they will be leasing AND selling modules, as well as the assembled version (2 ba-330's, 1 galaxy, and an assembly truss.

Re:Skeptical (1)

FleaPlus (6935) | more than 7 years ago | (#20196925)

I am guessing that the article is talking about bigelow's.

Actually, that sounds quite possible, especially since Bigelow has stated that he emphatically doesn't want to get into the space hotel business directly, but would rather lease it to somebody else to do so. I would've thought the article would've mentioned something like that, though.

Re:Skeptical (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20196571)

Maybe they're going to be buying or leasing one of Robert Bigelow's habs? Bigelow isn't particularly in the space hotel business; he's in the space real estate business. Maybe this is the vehicle they're using.

Maybe the just want investors (4, Funny)

backslashdot (95548) | more than 7 years ago | (#20193507)

Just because they don't have a practical idea doesn't mean they can't rip off investors.

Bull (0)

slobarnuts (666254) | more than 7 years ago | (#20193511)

So If Nasa does not plan on going back to the moon until 2018 [space.com] , one just has to contest the validity of their claims. In 5 year i doubt the private space companies will develop technology to LAND on the moon AND build anything there. If you cant get to the moon cost efficiently, all else fails.

Re:Bull (1)

qbwiz (87077) | more than 7 years ago | (#20193529)

"Fly me to the moon" is just the headline of the story and the name of a song; it does not, in fact, have anything to do with the location of the hotel. The hotel would probably be built in low earth orbit.

Re:Bull (2, Informative)

slobarnuts (666254) | more than 7 years ago | (#20193551)

holy crap, they were not even talking about on the moon. They were talking orbital. $3 Billion is not enough to build a hotel, considering the ISS is cost at least 1 BILLION dollars per year to operate.

Re:Bull (3, Interesting)

FleaPlus (6935) | more than 7 years ago | (#20193839)

holy crap, they were not even talking about on the moon. They were talking orbital. $3 Billion is not enough to build a hotel, considering the ISS is cost at least 1 BILLION dollars per year to operate.
As I've mentioned in another comment, Bigelow Aerospace already has a couple of one-third-size habitat prototypes in orbit right now, and he's stated that he doesn't plan to spend a total of more than $400 million on the project over the next several years.

Keep in mind that most of the $1.8 billion annual cost of the ISS [wikipedia.org] is spent on space shuttle flight operations. Of course, since the space shuttle is used almost exclusively for the ISS, a good part of the $4 billion a year it costs to keep the shuttles running should probably be added to that as well. In any case, NASA's ISS spending figure isn't a good indicator of how much it would cost to run a for-profit orbital habitat.

Re:Bull (1)

flyingfsck (986395) | more than 7 years ago | (#20193727)

You forget that the majority of present day space vehicles are in fact built by private sector companies: Boeing, Lockheed-Martin, Arianne, Energia and so on. NASA doesn't have factories.

I believe you to be wrong (1)

WindBourne (631190) | more than 7 years ago | (#20194627)

They are putting up a hotel, not putting up a building. Almost certainly, it will use the bigelow modules. Roughly, Bob Bigelow is selling westerners who can actually buy the modules what to use these for. Bob will also have 1 hotel up there, but would like to see some competition up there. If more groups announce that they are building hotels up there AND on the moon, then private enterprise will rush in to fill the void. As I said on another posting, I believe that private enterprise will be on the moon by 2015.

You wouldn't believe it, but... (0, Redundant)

wamerocity (1106155) | more than 7 years ago | (#20193531)

Even with all that money paid, they still have to get stuck on a 3 hour layover on the MIR! What a ripoff!

Re:You wouldn't believe it, but... (5, Funny)

sentientbeing (688713) | more than 7 years ago | (#20194343)

Worse than that, none of the electrical sockets are compatible. Its worse than travelling to Europe.

Hmm... (1)

zCyl (14362) | more than 7 years ago | (#20193545)

Do they have valet parking?

Re:Hmm... (1)

owlnation (858981) | more than 7 years ago | (#20194337)

Does it have blackjack and hookers?

Typical Scenario... (1)

raftpeople (844215) | more than 7 years ago | (#20195597)

Hotel Employee: "Hello and welcome to the Space Hotel, are you checking in?"
Guest: "Yes, name is Wilson"
Employee: "Ok great, let me find you on the computer, this will just take a second {clickity clickity clack clack click clack...)"
Employee: "Hmmm, and your reservation was for today?"
Guest: "Yes"
Employee: "Ok, hold on, (click clack clickity click...)"
Employee: "Hm. Uh, how do you spell Wilson?"
Guest: "W I L S O N"
Employee: "Yes, that's what I was trying, but I just don't see it. Do you have your confirmation code?"
Guest: "Sure, let me dig through some stuff and get it...ok, it's 178QXT534"
Employee: "Great, let me bring that up...(click click click clickity clack clack click...)"
Employee: "I'm not finding that either, are you sure that's the code?"
Guest: "Yes, I printed this off your website before I left, see"
Employee: "Yes that's the code, but it just doesn't seem to be in our system. I'm sorry sir."
Guest: "So what do we do?"
Employee: "Well we are completely booked up, unless you have a reservation I can't give you a room."
Guest: "But...I just flew 20,000 miles...FROM EARTH...THERE IS NO WHERE ELSE TO STAY!"
Employee: "I can probably sneak you in next week, IF you are willing to take the smoking room junior suite with 2 doubles instead of a queen. This room does not have a wet bar, but under the conditions, I would recommend taking it." ...

Vaporware (5, Interesting)

Lon Star (998458) | more than 7 years ago | (#20193589)

I'm surprised how much play this story is getting considering how little evidence there is that this is little more than someone's joke design project for fun. Especially when there is another, more legitimate company like Bigelow Aerospace that also intends on having a private space station by 2012 but can back that up with TWO test modules actually in space and actually has a manufacturing facility.

I mean, the reporter takes their word for it when they say some American who they can't name is giving them $3 billion. I figure I could got to the same reporter and say someone is giving me a couple billion to build the world's biggest saussage and it will make the headlines the next day.

Not sure how much competition to Bigelow they really are, and I also have doubts about their $3 billion funding figure. I think we need more proof than their word.

Bigelow has: - A manufacturing plans currently building the modules for its stations - A corporate structure - Two test modules currently in space - A concrete business plan - More than 100 employees

Galactic Suite has: - A Web site with nice illustrations. Though its strange title font looks like it was done in Microsoft Paint.

This seems like little more than a nice Web site and fancy illustrations. Galactic Suite also seems to indicate it would use the Space Shuttle for construction, which would be news to NASA, which plans to put the orbiters in the Smithsonian by 2010.

Seems like more vaporware to me. I'd rather put my money on Bigelow to build the first private space station.

Bigelow put up some cool, REAL pictures from space on this page: http://bigelowaerospace.com/out_there/view_photos. php [bigelowaerospace.com] .

Vacuumware (2, Funny)

flyingfsck (986395) | more than 7 years ago | (#20193755)

There, fixed it for ya...

Re:Vaporware (2, Funny)

swokm (1140623) | more than 7 years ago | (#20193913)

Sir! I think that a flabbergastingly preposterous accusation! I have seen these resplendently detailed plans with my very own eyes!

I will be most delighted to share them with you: Behold! [venganza.org]

PS. Please address checks to "My Kool Space Howse", P.O Box...

Re:Vaporware (1)

aquabat (724032) | more than 7 years ago | (#20196913)

I mean, the reporter takes their word for it when they say some American who they can't name is giving them $3 billion.
I bet the secret investor is Darl McBride.

2012? (4, Insightful)

SageMusings (463344) | more than 7 years ago | (#20193591)

3 megabucks per passenger would not pay for it even if they had the lift and an orbiting facility. Gosh, 2012? It is going to take longer just to figure out cheaper launch vehicles. Also the first time a rich "astro-tourist" gets killed (1st or 2nd flight), the whole operation sinks.

Wait... (2, Funny)

iamdrscience (541136) | more than 7 years ago | (#20193713)

How will they keep the mints from floating off the pillows?

Re:Wait... (4, Funny)

Hogwash McFly (678207) | more than 7 years ago | (#20193867)

It's obvious: put the mints underneath the pillows. How they then stop the pillows from floating off the mints is another matter entirely...

Re:Wait... (1)

smoker2 (750216) | more than 7 years ago | (#20194365)

Velcro.
Message ends.

Re:Wait... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20194671)

Maybe put a mint on top of it?

Re:Wait... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20195783)

How will they keep the mints from floating off the pillows?

It's obvious: put the mints underneath the pillows. How they then stop the pillows from floating off the mints is another matter entirely...
Or, if you're a student of this science called physics you'd know that neither the mint nor the pillow would float away unless it was acted on by an outside force. This is a pet peeve of mine when I watch sci-fi shows, because they always seem get weightlessness and microgravity wrong, wrong, wrong. You don't magically float into the air the second gravity is removed, neither do all the untethered objects on the rest of the spaceship.

The biggest problem I see with this. (1)

iamdrscience (541136) | more than 7 years ago | (#20193729)

Okay, I could imagine that *maybe* there are people willing to pay that much to stay in a space hotel. The problem is, what good is having a luxury space hotel suite if you can't hire strippers to dance in it, much less drink champagne in your hot tub with them. Face it folks, besides watching all your friends vomit, weightlessness is no fun.

Way to spend ! (1)

in2mind (988476) | more than 7 years ago | (#20193845)

What a way to spend money!

Earn in Earth.Spend in Space !!

(c) :)

Showers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20193881)

If you're only going to be there for three days, why even bother taking a shower at all?

Too stupid for me and you (-1, Flamebait)

ydra2 (821713) | more than 7 years ago | (#20193885)

Only $14,000,000.00 a night. Sure, thats chump change for most of us, but what about the rest? And their laughable solution to showering? How about a wet rag with some soap rubbed on it, like you use here on earth if you don't have a shower handy? What are you people, stupid or just plain dumb?

Next thing they're going to talk about weightless eating like you have to go after floating morsels in the air like fish or something. How about just holding a hot dog in your hand and eating it? Is that too complicated for you space travel nuts?

Ok, next they make out like pooping is going to be a big deal. Sorry folks, even that is trivial. It just squirts out and you scoop it off with toilette paper, same as you always did. The suction sucks it down just like gravity does here on earth. If you can't make it to the toilette, then you have the same problem you have here in gravityland, poop in your pants. Maybe even an easier problem to deal with in microgravity.

Space travel is ultimately about being weightless and seeing a view. If you like that fine. But if you think it's a big hassle and lots of training to adjust to, I'm sorry, you are beyond help. Go hike in the woods or something.

why thankyou (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20193919)

yeah right 2012;

well i'd like to book a room please, with a fast internet connection so i can go online with duke nukem forever.

I have a story for you... (1)

gr33nlantern (623996) | more than 7 years ago | (#20194125)

This just in!:
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Do they offer free wifi service? =/...

Re:I have a story for you... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20195625)

Shut up.

Gideons (1)

Gizah (887392) | more than 7 years ago | (#20194157)

How are they going to stop those bibles floating away? hmm?

Re:Gideons (1)

Anonymous McCartneyf (1037584) | more than 7 years ago | (#20196835)

Normally, I believe, the Gideon Bible is stuffed into a drawer. I believe that the drawer will keep the Bible in place until someone wants or needs to read it.

Colonizing Mars is not possible (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20194197)

Long term colonization on Mars is impossible without major terraforming, and we are no where near able to do that. http://www.philforhumanity.com/Terraforming_Mars.h tml [philforhumanity.com]

Funny thing happened on the way to the moon (1)

WindBourne (631190) | more than 7 years ago | (#20194725)

Large number of folks back in the 60's believed that we would never survive a landing on the moon. Many of them believed that it was 10' of dust. So a number of common folks who fancied themselves as experts were announcing that we could not land on the moon. After we did, then they said that it must have been a trick. I am guessing that long after we have started a colony on mars, ppl like you will declare that it was all a trick.

BEARD! (1)

orangesunglasses (1140459) | more than 7 years ago | (#20194225)

This is just like the news stories that 'predict' that we will all have walking robots in our homes in a years time.

Try Clicking On 'Blog' (1)

SilentOneNCW (943611) | more than 7 years ago | (#20194249)

You get a username/password dialog box. WTF?

I think Roald Dahl already addressed this. (2, Funny)

Shag (3737) | more than 7 years ago | (#20194251)

I, for one, welcome our new Vermicious Knid overlords.

Re:I think Roald Dahl already addressed this. (1)

Big_Monkey_Bird (620459) | more than 7 years ago | (#20194467)

HAHA!

I was going to bring up the Vermicious Knids, but you beat me, and did it in true /. fashion. Cheers!

Re:I think Roald Dahl already addressed this. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20197021)

They don't welcome you. SCRAM!

*sigh* (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20194303)

With poverty deeply entrenched across most of the earth, it's good to see the wealthy of the world have their priorities straight in spending millions and billions on this misguided effort. Colonize Mars? Try colonizing the Gobi desert first. It's a lot closer and far more habitable. But then you wouldn't be able to brag to your friends about staying at a hotel in space.

this is generating billions in jobs (1)

WindBourne (631190) | more than 7 years ago | (#20194731)

Here is a suggestion. Since this is creating lots of jobs (with many more to come), you could get rich off of this AND do the colonizing of the gobi.

what are guests paying for? (5, Funny)

3seas (184403) | more than 7 years ago | (#20194347)

Eight weeks of training at a james bond style camp on a tropical island.

and while up in space for three days...
During that time guests would see the sun rise 15 times a day...

costing $4 million for a three-day stay.

and then there is a bill correction afterward..

15 sunrises a day for three days = 45 sunrises.

I'm sorry sir, according to our corrected calculations you were up there for more than 3 days...

45 days to be correct.

At 4 million per three days that comes to $60 million dollars.

here is you after bill of $56 million.

Now its beginning to make financial since...

Just announced- the MC of the grand opening wil be (3, Funny)

jconley (28741) | more than 7 years ago | (#20194385)

DJ Ruby Rhod!

About time (1)

proxy318 (944196) | more than 7 years ago | (#20194443)

Will I be able to ride my hoverboard there?

It's very cold... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20194537)

It's very cold to shower in space.

Objection! (-1, Flamebait)

chitchat98765 (1141227) | more than 7 years ago | (#20194603)

Outer space belongs to all earthlings. I believe all businesses in space must be publicly owned, and profits too. http://www.unoosa.org/oosa/en/FAQ/splawfaq.html [unoosa.org] Space is more like a giant public park than it is like "real estate". Will there be a Beverly Hills and a Compton ghetto on the Moon and on Mars????? Will the maids live in tin cans while the rich investors have gold tooth brushes??????? Any profits made by these "wealthy investors" should be put in trust for humanity. As a final matter, all earthlings should have equal access to THEIR property, just like they do to the Grand Canyon. It is NOT to be bought or monopolized for wealthy earthlings.

Re:Objection! (1)

AdmiralLawman (1073516) | more than 7 years ago | (#20195979)

Move along, nothing to see here people. Blarg.

4 million? (2, Funny)

rdean400 (322321) | more than 7 years ago | (#20194743)

Sheesh, where's PriceLine when you need it?

Re:4 million? (1)

azander (786903) | more than 7 years ago | (#20196371)

I believe Orbits will have better deals on this one.

Timewave/Mayan Long Count nuts can relax finally (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20194889)

Timewavers and Tzolkiners can breathe a sigh of relief as this clearly signals a major transition for the human race from merely exploring outer-space to actually living in it. This will be the moment our planet leaves the starting gate. Not the end, but instead the beginning of a new world... The line goes flat because it's just a small section the greater whole. The count ends because the next phase is beginning.

Somewhat OT (1)

noradninja (1141243) | more than 7 years ago | (#20194895)

So, is there a reason this has not been tagged getyourasstomars yet?

Don't do it! (1)

Mr. Vage (1084371) | more than 7 years ago | (#20194909)

Colonizing Mars will lead to Hell on Earth!

ISS orbits at 5 miles - five mile high club ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20195173)

I assume there are a few members already

economics (1)

abes (82351) | more than 7 years ago | (#20195497)

I think this is one of the first steps for a human presence in space. In many ways it follows how international airflight became economical. With that said, there are a couple of issues.

Firstly, unlike international flights, there is no ultimate functional destination (yet). The only reason to be there currently is because you have money to waste. Other business ventures need to be set up to create a supportable ecosystem. Two other businesses that may be sensible would be: research, though getting the government grants to do so would be difficult, so the research would have to have some economical return; and possible mining on the moon (hydrogen).

Longer term, I think it is worthwhile of thinking of the universe being a very large tappable energy source. Large enough to be considered infinite for now. The big issues with this are: (1) how difficult is a particular resource to harvest, (2) how long will it take, (3) can it converted to energy easily, or must it be transferred first to be processed. The last point is important, because the harvesting shuttles themselves could in theory power themselves on these resources. This could extend their distance and speed.

Secondly, zero-g living will only be fun for so long. You can already experience it without going up. While (AFAIK) we still don't have any anti-gravity engines, it is still possible to simulate gravity using centripetal force. Unfortunately, if I remember correctly, this requires a rather large ring rotating at a decent velocity. This will also solve the issue of the toliets.

$500k for macadamia nuts? (1)

mikeasu (1025283) | more than 7 years ago | (#20195535)

I'd hate to see how much they charge for the in-room bar...

Bout time! (1)

crhylove (205956) | more than 7 years ago | (#20195737)

Can we PLEASE spend some of the money we are currently wasting in Iraq on something like this?

Artificial (1)

Travelsonic (870859) | more than 7 years ago | (#20195935)

We need artificial gravity, dammit!

Just one problem.... (1)

EricTheGreen (223110) | more than 7 years ago | (#20195937)

....what to do about the vermicious knids?

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