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Voltron Headed For The Big Screen

CmdrTaco posted more than 7 years ago | from the thank-god-its-the-lion-voltron dept.

Sci-Fi 283

An anonymous reader writes "Following the success of the Transformers movie, Hollywood is preparing to make another live-action film featuring giant robots from the 1980s: 'Voltron: Defender of the Universe'. The script, by Justin Marks, is described as '...a post-apocalyptic tale set in New York City and Mexico. Five ragtag survivors of an alien attack band together and end up piloting the five lion-shaped robots that combine and form the massive sword-wielding Voltron that helps battle Earth's invaders.' Let's go, Voltron force!"

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God Smack Your Ass !! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20202421)


God Smack Your Ass !!

Let there be lions. (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20202443)

"The script, by Justin Marks, is described as '...a post-apocalyptic tale set in New York City and Mexico. Five ragtag survivors of an alien attack band together and end up piloting the five lion-shaped robots that combine and form the massive sword-wielding Voltron that helps battle Earth's invaders.'"

Wonder how he's going to address the creation of the lions?

Re:Let there be lions. (1)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202553)

Wonder how he's going to address the creation of the lions?

I'd guess it'll be stolen (and possibly modified) alien technology.

Original (4, Funny)

Bibz (849958) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202447)

My god, I can't believed that I found the PowerRangers original when they came out... It's the "same" thing as Voltron!

Re:Original (1)

sentientbeing (688713) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202677)

I must be much younger, but it sounds like my 80s favourite - Star Fleet [sfxb.co.uk] and their flying robot Dai-X

Re:Original (4, Informative)

falcon5768 (629591) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202729)

There is a good reason that it is the same thing. Go-Lion (the anime Voltron came from in Japan) was a anime version of the Super Sentai shows there... which is what eventually power rangers was developed out of.

Technically Power Rangers is much older. The series had started as early as the mid 70's

Re:Original (5, Funny)

garett_spencley (193892) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203009)

I used to watch Voltron when I was around 4 or 5 years old. I had the toy robot that you could assemble / dissemble etc.

Around the age of 11 or so the Power Rangers became "huge". Being a young, impressionable kid with no free will I watched it after school with my friends even though I thought it was "total crap". Anyway at that time I had completely forgotten about Voltron yet I KNEW that it was a rip-off of something that I used to watch as a young(er) child.

I remember absolutely loving Voltron and for years I tried to figure out what that cartoon I used to watch as a kid with the cat-like vehicles that could assemble into one. Every person I described it to, in hopes that they would remember, could only think of "power rangers!" to which I'd respond "no definitely NOT the power rangers ... it was a cartoon!" and they'd just think "err... transformers ? :\"

It was actually thanks to this /. article that I've discovered ... it was Voltron! :) ... and now, thanks to another poster, I know why the Power Rangers was so similar. Some days it pays it to slack on work and just hang out on /.

Shit my boss is calling me ... oh well, he'll understand when I tell him "it was Voltron!"

Re:Original (1)

KrayzieKyd (906704) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203027)

Power Rangers is just an American rehash of Sentai Rangers from Japan. Japan's got 15 years on the American Rangers.

Re:Original (4, Funny)

Capt James McCarthy (860294) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203173)

Screw that, it's all a copy of the Banana Splits. Just with different a different agenda.

don't buy in. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20202449)

Lame. Transformers got away with novelty. Voltron will tank.

Volt-who? (2, Interesting)

Dogtanian (588974) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202731)

Lame. Transformers got away with novelty. Voltron will tank.
I don't think that I'd ever heard of Voltron before this. My first thoughts were "wasn't that the baddie's name from Battle of the Planets?" (Apparently that was "Zoltar", whatever...)

Going by the YouTube link to the 80s Voltron cartoon in the summary, it looks almost exactly like someone created carbon copies of the Transformers cartoon and Battle of the Planets and welded them together.

Transformers were massive in the UK when I was about 10, so it's obviously going to benefit from nostalgic parents and thirtysomething media types. By contrast, I don't know how big Voltron was in the US and Japan, but it's pretty unknown here, so I doubt it's going to get the same free pass. It can't even have been *that* big elsewhere, because I'm sure I'd have come across more about it on the net if it had been.

Re:Volt-who? (1)

Turn-X Alphonse (789240) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202987)

It's big in Japan and in the English speaking fanbase. It often features in Super robot Taisen which is a game like advance wars using lots of mecha animes. :)

Re:Volt-who? (1)

Dogtanian (588974) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203127)

It's big in Japan
Yes, but so are lots of things; it doesn't mean that it's so big elsewhere

and in the English speaking fanbase.
That just means that "amongst the English speakers who are fans of it, it has a major following". Pretty tautological, and not really enlightening. How big is awareness of it amongst the US population in general- or even just amongst the late-twenty/early-thirtysomethings?

Re:Volt-who? (1)

vidarh (309115) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203051)

My impression was pretty much the same. I'm from Norway, and can't say I'd ever heard about Voltron before, though Transformers were huge despite only being available on satellite and cable at a time when only a relatively small part of the population had access to it.

I used to live literally right next door to school, and we used to gather up at my place to watch the old Sky Channel (which is what ultimately morphed into Sky One, but which then was then mostly/only available outside the UK) and end up running out the door when the bell rang...

As popular? (1)

biocute (936687) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202451)

I believe I'm not alone to still own both Transformers and Voltron toys from the 80's, but somehow Voltron doesn't do me as much as Transformers does.

I don't know how to explain it, but does anyone feel the same? Or do you think Voltron has a stronger, more emotional and deeper storyline?

Re:As popular? (1)

tim_darklighter (822987) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202547)

When I was a kid, I really didn't care too much about storyline, but I did like the art of Voltron (pseudo-anime) compared to Transformers and the Voltron lions were cooler toys. And looking back at it, I can get behind 4 guys and a lady who band together to stop an evil empire more than I can get behind a bunch of alien robots who can't get along and decide to rip up our planet and screw us in the meantime. Both are pretty campy story-wise, but I don't think Voltron will do as well as a Transformers movie mainly because 1) Voltron won't get the big name backing (Spielberg, Bay) that Transformers did since 2) less people knew about Voltron when they were kids, or so it seems with the people I've talked to. I's love to see some new Voltron, but instead of "The Third Dimension" type crap, it may be better treated by an anime studio who could give it an interesting (at least not laughable) story line and some nice art. I'm already quite sick of the "let's use the 80s kid's nostalgia to sell tickets" method. It's going to be just like superhero movies: X-Men and Spider-man were great, and most of the later ones are either good enough to watch once (FF4) or crap (Daredevil). And unfortunately, Voltron will probably one of the latter two types.

Re:As popular? (1)

neapolitan (1100101) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202667)

>I believe I'm not alone to still own both Transformers and Voltron toys from the 80's

You would only be alone if you still *played* with those toys from the 80's. :) My Voltron assembly sits somewhere in storage in a basement...

I think the franchise will do fine -- these movies have a dual appeal of nostalgia from us late 20's - 30 somethings, in addition to the timeless appeal to kids. How many young parents will take their kids to see it, or just see it with their old buddies for old times' sake?

As pointed out here, Gobots http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gobots [wikipedia.org] were actually the original adaptation of the Japanese toy.

Re:As popular? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20202725)

"My Voltron assembly sits somewhere in storage in a basement..."

Let's be honest, it sits right next to your computer. In your parents basment!

I was a *major* Voltron nut as a child. (1)

numbski (515011) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202931)

As an adult, not so much. :(

The reason is simple. When I sit down to watch the original, I can clearly tell where GoLion was hacked up and spliced with Dairugger XV to give us the story we have. Amazingly, no one is ever killed in an attack. Funny, I thought that guys head just got ripped off? Oh lookie, killer mutant frogs...good thing those are actually just little robots! :\

Voltron.com had mention of GoLion getting a subtitled, uncut release here in the states this summer, but I've seen no signs of it. Transformers became somewhat plausible because the big robots came from "someplace else". GoLion was a sentient being that was punished and split up into 5 component parts. I don't see how that story will get told, nor do I see someone explaining away how someone on earth thought it was a good idea to build 5 giant robot lions.

Dairugger XV would be more plausible, but not as popular. This scares me. :\ World Event Productions is here in St. Louis. Perhaps I should go to their office and express my fears? :P

Re:As popular? (2, Insightful)

zakezuke (229119) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203167)

I believe I'm not alone to still own both Transformers and Voltron toys from the 80's, but somehow Voltron doesn't do me as much as Transformers does.

I don't know how to explain it, but does anyone feel the same? Or do you think Voltron has a stronger, more emotional and deeper storyline?
It's hard to tell as Lion Voltron was a somewhat bastardized version of Hyakujuu Oo GoLion, a series that doesn't seem to exist in a dubbed DVD form. Even worse, the English version, they after a main character died (The prince), they rewrote another 10 or 16 episodes.

Reviewing "Transformers" I can't say there was really a deep emotional storyline in the English version, but rather it seemed to be a vehicle to sell toys. Voltron is however a better example as an obvious attempt to adapt a short lived cheap Japanese series to the American market, and an excellent example of how stupid marking things the average sub-teen is.

Now Macross is another animal. It was well well writen, and even the first part of the English version Robotech was very much watchable. It's not seen as being as popular as there was a dispute over the rights to the toys. It seemed in the early 80s the yen was somewhat weak and kids who were interested had a choice to buy either Robotech toys, or Macross toys, where Macross Toys were slightly cheaper.

"Live Action" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20202459)

Unless they're actually going to build the robots, then its just another Who Framed Roger Rabbit.. they may as well rotoscope the whole thing.

Good old Holywood (5, Insightful)

hine_uk (783556) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202495)

...a film does well and they start looking for the next easy cashin. Think back to how the recent comic adaptions were kick started by the likes of Xmen, one does well and all of a sudden there is a bandwagon trundling down the hill.

Now a giant robot film has done well so the bandwagon looks for the next passenger it can send down. Personally I think voltron will tank. Hardly anyone knows what it is and it lacked that 'cool' factor when I was a kid growing up, even my father knew what transformers were then and wanted to see the film now. But Voltron?

Its over reaching and says straight to dvd.

I know I know, flamebait, troll, whatever you want but this is just my opinion from the UK, in the US it might be different.

Re:Good old Holywood (4, Interesting)

Overzeetop (214511) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202575)

A comic (whos name I cannot recall now) commented on the amazing popularity of March of the Penguins a couple of years ago. He pointed out that this was a turning point for Hollywood, to see a well-shot documentary with a solid actor doing narration and a storyline to hold the piece together. He felt that with the commercial success of this documentary we would see many more like it in the coming years. Not other documentaries, of course, but lots of penguin movies.

Re:Good old Holywood (5, Insightful)

Ecuador (740021) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203265)

<offtopic>
Actually, "March of the Penguins" was not a Hollywood documentary, but a French production. What's more, having seen both the original French version and the English
translation, I have to say that all Hollywood did to the movie, by adding the narration of Morgan Freeman, was to destroy one great and original aspect of the film. You see, the French version doesn't have a narrator, but voices for Mother, Father and Baby penguin. It sounds very silly doesn't it? Well, apparently it was very hard to make it good enough, so that it doesn't sound silly, and the translated versions followed the easy route of narration. Now in the original French version, the voice over was done brilliantly so that it does not sound like a "animals are talking" kids movie, but rather an alternate and more "personal" narration that added more feeling to the movie.
</offtopic>

On the current topic, I always thought it would be very hard to make a good live action Transformers movie. They pulled it off very well. But Voltron? Come on! From the far-fetched Transformers we are going to ridiculous lion headed fighters (or even worse, lionhead-limbed when combined as Voltron). If you want giant mecha, do Macross or something...

Re:Good old Holywood (4, Funny)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202635)

Gabe and Tycho saw it coming the whole time. Here's 2 approriate comics

Part 1 [penny-arcade.com]
Part 2 [penny-arcade.com]

Re:Good old Holywood (1)

TheMeuge (645043) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202739)

As long as they don't find the Voltron parts buried on the ocean floor, preserved in the SUB-FREEZING depths of the OCEAN.

P.S. If you're reading this, Mr. Bay, I implore you to consider that at least some of your audience has education beyond the 3Rs... or you know, common sense...

Re:Good old Holywood (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20203063)

P.S. If you're reading this, Mr. Bay, I implore you to consider that at least some of your audience has education beyond the 3Rs... or you know, common sense...
See, there's your problem, your assuming Michael Bay has an education beyond the 3Rs, or common sense.

Maybe they aren't patronizing us... maybe they are just that dumb!

Re:Good old Holywood (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20202789)

To be sure, Voltron was on the table BEFORE Transformers and has been since like early 2004.

Huh, huh I'm headed to the bank right now.

Re:Good old Holywood (1)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203059)

I think your point is valid. I used to love watching Voltron, but frankly, now that I've seen it twenty years later, it's basically cliché-ridden dreck. Nostalgia doesn't do me any good here. It's quite irritating and predictable.

I probably said the same thing of Transformers, but I think the recent movie was an improvement on the original. It's decent except that I wish the movie wasn't sponsored by GM.

Re:Good old Holywood (1)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203149)

Then why the hell did SIN CITY, a movie that did far betterthan the tripe that was Transformers not spark a Johnny the Homicidal Maniac movie?

Hollywood only makes movies that do not require hard thinking. Honestly it's so bad lately that I cant wait for the Star wars episodes to start being remade. Oh and a remake of stripes, They already are doing an urban remake of caddy shack.

This summer is full of cartoons trned into movies and movie remakes. yet anything that would have any risk because it's a new idea or not a bubblegun slam-dunk is ignored?

Re:Good old Holywood (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20203151)

Bewitched & I dream of Jeannie?
Beverly Hillbillies & Green acres?
Gomer Pyle & Hogan's Heroes?
CSI & Law & Order?
A Bug's Life & Antz?
Happy Feet & Surf's Up?
Disney's Sequelitis?

The shit has gone on for an eternity.

Re:Good old Holywood (1)

Amorpheus_MMS (653095) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203271)

I was hoping that Hollywood discovers Battletech if Transformers scored big. That could really make for a bunch of great movies, and I think it could be done nicely without messing things up too much.

just stop (3, Interesting)

radarsat1 (786772) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202505)

I,Robot, Transformers, all the comic book movies lately.. ... When is the movie industry going stop pissing all over my childhood?

One would hope that they at least write a decent script this time.
From the summary though, I doubt it.

Sorry to be a downer. I just find that this trend of ransacking all our 80's childhood memories is starting to get on my nerves. It feels like they've just made some kind of list, with $$ next to each item, and they will continue down that list until the $$ gets lower than the expenses of creating CG effects. (And the latter is constantly getting lower.)

They don't pick these movies to make based on good scripts, good ideas, or good director/writers, they are just knocking them down one after the other because people will go see something they have good memories of. They're completely taking advantage of everyone's misplaced hope that the next one will be better, because "that was sooo awesome when I was a kid." (Perhaps they have the right to do so... you can only vote with your wallet.) I went to see Transformers hoping it would be something decent, but these movies are constantly disappointing. (X-Men wasn't bad to be completely honest..)

I think, this time around, at the very least I'll wait and heed the reviews instead of going to see it on opening day. (The hard part is finding a reviewer that usually agrees with you.)

Re:just stop (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20202537)

"Spy Game" and "Spiderman" (the first one) are the only two movies I've ever gone to see more than once in the theatre. The new Ninja Turtles movie, "TMNT," sucked so bad and blighted my childhood memories so badly, that I skipped out on transformers. I won't be seeing this one either. I completely agree with you.

Re:just stop (4, Insightful)

garett_spencley (193892) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202831)

They don't pick these movies to make based on good scripts, good ideas, or good director/writers, they are just knocking them down one after the other because people will go see something they have good memories of. They're completely taking advantage of everyone's misplaced hope that the next one will be better, because "that was sooo awesome when I was a kid."

If one single person feels obligated to pay his/her hard earned cash on a movie for that reason alone and then feels "duped" afterwards then they got what they had coming.

Come on, seriously! I realize it's cliche on /. to bash big money but it's not like they're employing slave labour to produce these films or robbing money right out of people's wallets at gun point. You're talking as if they're exploiting a group of people and forcing them to do something against their will. They're bloody movies! If you don't like them don't go see them. It's really as simple as that.

Honestly, for a crowd who is so vocal about free speech and copyright law I get the feeling that the same group of people, if given the power, would strip the rights of anyone to make movies based on anything that they feel close to. It's like, they just can't do right. No matter what. Even though Transformers was a huge success you just can't escape the bitching and whining and, in this case, total exagerated teenage drama queen hyperbole about evil corporation raping some childhood memory and forcing you to consume it "mwuhahahahahaha we're rolling in money and it's all at the expense of some Joe Blow's precious childhood interpretation of a corny and cheesy cartoon who's sole purpose was to sell a line of toy's and make massive amounts of money anyway..."

But then, I supposed it really is the "geek" thing to do. To quote Kevin Smith / Ben Affleck "The Internet is a communication tool used the world over where people can come together to bitch about movies and share pornography with one another".

/ rant

Re:just stop (1)

morari (1080535) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203065)

If one single person feels obligated to pay his/her hard earned cash on a movie for that reason alone and then feels "duped" afterwards then they got what they had coming.
But they don't ever feel duped. People go just because it is a new film, not because it looks particularly enthralling. They pay the ridiculous admission price, sit with a group of friends and then go eat Buffalo Wings afterwards. They talk about the few flashy parts where CGI explosions happened and don't even remember just how much the movie sucked because their brain wasn't clicked on during that whole area. People are inherently stupid, the films they go to see and the music that choose to listen to is just an ideal example of such. The fact that the only way you can get people en mass to read is by heavily marketing a book for elementary school child is beyond pathetic.

Re:just stop (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20203205)

Another interpretation is that it is not the same people responding in each story. I'm convinced the comments for a given article show the subset of the Slashdot readership who most want to bitch about the topic in question.

Feel free to cry "Hypocrisy!" when individuals contradict themselves, but a series of self-selected samples which are a tiny fraction of the readership will not be at all representative or having anything like a consistent opinion.

Re:just stop (1)

JockTroll (996521) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203237)

"Honestly, for a crowd who is so vocal about free speech and copyright law I get the feeling that the same group of people, if given the power, would strip the rights of anyone to make movies based on anything that they feel close to."

You got it ALMOST right. If given the power, nerds would strip away everybody's rights to do anything that doesn't fit in with their loserboy delusions. They have the mistaken impression that they are some kind of uber-intelligent "elite" that is destined to do great things, to rule humanity, to enlighten all of us.

But they are not. They are sub-par specimens with no skills and no usefulness to the community. They are losers, they exist at the margins of the Real Worls, raving and ranting against the "system" that forced them to take on menial jobs, "refusing" to "recognize" their "superiority".

We tolerate their self-aggrandizing delusions only as long as they do not become too bothersome. When this happens, we beat them up. Aye, we grab them by their scrawny necks, we bash their heads against walls, we dunk them into unflushed toilets, we beat them up and shit on their faces.

Let the nerds know: they have no hope. With a slap of the hand they'll be thrown, flying, into the air like the rotten leaves they are. We'll drown them in their own feces if need be.

Re:just stop (1)

owlman17 (871857) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203075)

And after they ransack our 80s memories, they'll pillage our 90s memories. I'd love to see a Starblazers or Robotech movie though.

Re:just stop (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20203245)

Then you should see if you can find Robotech: Shadow Chronicles. As far as I know, it was direct to DVD. It wasn't too bad, but it helps if you've read the books, and I kind of wish it had been a bit longer.

Re:just stop (1)

Capt James McCarthy (860294) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203183)

Just think in 10 years you'll be able to see a 'live action' pokemon movie. The best crap is yet in our future I'm afraid.

Re:just stop (1)

zakezuke (229119) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203283)

I,Robot, Transformers, all the comic book movies lately.. ... When is the movie industry going stop pissing all over my childhood?
Cinderella, Snow White, all the classic Grimm tales... I'd say never. Pissing on your childhood is what pays the bills.

Re:just stop (1)

Pyrrhic Diarrhea (1061530) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203389)

In that case, can't wait for Jem! /gags. The studio tie-in with the spice girl of the moment will be too much to pass up. Synergy, baby, Hollywood style! /continued gagging until the end of time.

No originality (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20202517)


Once again Hollywood shows it has no originality left. And once again I'll download it and turn it off 30 minutes into the show.

Voltron is Japanese.. (0)

Turn-X Alphonse (789240) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202523)

Why the hell is America trying to push into the giant robot market? Transformers was the worst movie I have ever seen and I sure as hell don't want them to do crap like that to the classic Japanese series (Could you even picture a PG Getter robo?).

Lets be perfectly honest here, Americans suck with mecha, they don't understand how to do a deep plot involving robots nor do they have the history of super robots to pull off a decent Super robot movie either (There is also an argument about Japanese voice actors over English ones because they don't hold back and really do scream unlike most American ones I've heard). So I would rather they left the whole thing alone and didn't do more harm than good to the genre.

This is going to be like the Super hero movies we're seeing, none of them are very good but "OMG THEY SELL TICKETS!" so they get made on mass to the point where it's impossible to even hear about half of them coming out. The only difference will be mecha is much easier to exploit because they can destroy entire cities (or planets if we include the really powerful ones) and the audience will lap it up even if it goes against the entire character of the pilots or the heroic side's ideals.

Re:Voltron is Japanese.. (2, Funny)

Bombula (670389) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202545)

they don't understand how to do a deep plot involving robots

You mean like a giant alien robot made out of five smaller robots shaped like lions that wields a sword?

Re:Voltron is Japanese.. (0)

Turn-X Alphonse (789240) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202593)

Well done, you fail at mecha just as I mentioned.

The mecha fanbase sorts mecha into 2 types. "Super robot" which do that sort of thing, where screaming, justice and courage win fights and "Real robots" which are more military use where 1 or 2 hits will blow them up, they have limited ammo and no matter how much they scream it won't do them any good in a fight if they lack the skill/luck/support.

I'm a mecha geek, my passion is robots and it's painful to see that America doesn't grasp there is a different between 70s super robots and modern real robots or vice versa, even though you had stuff like Macross (Robotech) as part of your childhoods in the 80s and Super Sentai (power rangers) in the 90s, both of which show 2 different types of mecha use.

And super robot shows can have deeper plots than you suspect. It can come down to just looking cool but if you watch something like Getter robo you will see that you can have a plot where the mecha are important but the entire story doesn't revolve around them.

Re:Voltron is Japanese.. (3, Funny)

Chineseyes (691744) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202649)

I dub thee Comic Book Guy [wikipedia.org] .

Go forth and overstate the seriousness of children's cartoons wherever you shall go. Be a menace to all those who may decry the merits of such entertainment for this is your calling!!

GoLion was anything but deep. (1)

Valdrax (32670) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203393)

And super robot shows can have deeper plots than you suspect. It can come down to just looking cool but if you watch something like Getter robo you will see that you can have a plot where the mecha are important but the entire story doesn't revolve around them.

However, GoLion was NOT one of these shows. GoLion was utterly derivative crap that just happened to mix sentai and giant robots into a formula that sold well to little boys.

There is no depth and no subtlety to get -- all you do is combine, pull out the super weapon, and the episode is over. Everything else is just episodic filler of villians cackling, teammates bickering, and teammates unnecessarily getting injured because they're too stupid to combine and do their super attack until the right amount of time has been wasted. There was no deep metaplot, no social commentary, and no real character growth.

As long as the movie studio doesn't try to make it edgy, introduce unnecessary inter-party conflict, ditch the mystical elements of Voltron for "hard" science, or pick the most talentless actors they can for it, it's going to be hard to screw up. Of course, I have faith in Hollywood to do every single thing I just described, so...

Re:Voltron is Japanese.. (2, Informative)

alexgieg (948359) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202863)

You mean like a giant alien robot made out of five smaller robots shaped like lions that wields a sword?
No, he means something like this [wikipedia.org] or this [wikipedia.org] .

Re:Voltron is Japanese.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20202583)

Lets be perfectly honest here, Americans suck with mecha, they don't understand how to do a deep plot involving robots
Hahahaha...I love you Japanophiles. You "like" the worst kind of shit, you yourselves oh so seriously about the most trivial things in the whole fucking world.

Re:Voltron is Japanese.. (1)

Po6oT (1038024) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202721)

Both Transformers and Voltron have origins in Japan. Optimus Prime is known as Convoy in Japan. Ask yourself which you think is a better name. Personally, I think that, not only is Optimus Prime, a much better name, it is also one of the most memorable names of any cartoon series, period. The debate about American vs Japanese voice actors is not relevant to highly mainstream 80s series, where presumably there was a lot more money and quality control. Just look at the fans reactions when they heard that Peter Cullen was going to voice Optimus Prime. Fans were ecstatic. I have had the misfortune to watch Transformers with Japanese dub and it was awful. I haven't seen the recent Transformers film however, but from the looks of it, and the reviews that I trust, I will agree with you that it looks to be an awful film.

Re:Voltron is Japanese.. (1)

vidarh (309115) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202981)

I loved the Transformers movie. But then I expected action, losts of explosions, and big shiny robots, not a meaningful plot. After all, the original Transformers cartoons had nothing resembling a meaningful plot. They were little more than badly disguised toy ads.

And so the movie was fun because it made no pretense at all about being a serious movie, and kept making playful jabs at the series by throwing in lots of comments pointing to the original title song, and showing lots of action, explosions and big shiny robots.

I'm 32. I was at the right age when Transformers were airing in Norway where I'm from. I loved it, as I loved lots of the other toy commercial cartoons of the 80's. But I have no illusions now that there was anything deep there. As such I have no problem disassociating the Transformers movie, which I considered lighthearted entertainment and nostalgia, from "serious" sci-fi and the portrayal of robots in stories with serious plots.

The two simply have nothing in common.

I just saw the Transformers cartoons at near giveaway prices at my local DVD store... I resisted exactly because I know I'd probably cringe if I saw them again. The Transformers movie on the other hand was near perfect in balancing the cheesiness of the original series, the nostalgia, and updated action. And of course really fucking big shiny robots...

Are there any original ideas in Hollywood anymore? (1)

imadork (226897) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202539)

I know that Voltron on the big screen sounds cool, and that everything piece of creative work borrows from the ones that came before it. But when was the last time a truly original story (that wasn't a remake of a book, TV show, or other form of media) made it out of Hollywood?

Re:Are there any original ideas in Hollywood anymo (1)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202683)

Just because a movie is made from a book doesn't mean it's terrible. Kubrick is considered one of the greats, but many of his movies are based on old novels. Clockwork Orange, The Shining, Full Metal Jacket, Eyes Wide Shut, from the 5 movies that I know, all say they are base on or "inspired by" some other novel. The only one I own that doesn't say it's based on some other piece of work is Dr. Strangelove. So, while I would like to see some original stories. Seeing movies based of books isn't all that bad, assuming they are using interesting books and the movie is done well.

Re:Are there any original ideas in Hollywood anymo (1)

Walt Dismal (534799) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202877)

Well, *I* thought that the Saturday morning kids show, Tux Invaders, was awesome. I mean, who could have predicted that a story about five penguins from another planet who transform into operating system components and then load themselves into a giant PC to do battle with a giant Steve Ballmer robot would win so many awards?

...Cindi Lou? WTF did you put in my COFFEE this morning, you bitch! There appear to be enormous spiders on the ceiling, writing code, and I for one am not amused.

Re:Are there any original ideas in Hollywood anymo (1)

deniable (76198) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202973)

Starship Troopers?

Nope and here is why (1)

JRGhaddar (448765) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203117)

I work in the film industry, and the reason why the hollywood executives aren't going for original stories is simple. Risk / Reward. Hollywood is about making money. It is a business. It's not art. Here is a little insight into the exec's thought process.

1. Is there a preconceived interest?
- Does the audience already know about the subject matter.

Hollywood doesn't like gambling. Espicieally if there are millions at stake. They want a sure bet. They believe that a film that the audience already knows about and likes will be a better risk than a totally new storyline.
This is why you see all the remakes. Transformers, Starsky and Hutch. etc. etc. and it is also why sequels are made. If they bought tickets for the first one then they (the audience) are more inclined to by tickets to see the second.

2. Do we have existing rights to the material?

Another reason why you see remakes and sequels is that Hollywood already owns the rights to the work. No new expenditures are necessary to secure a story, and this is a way to extend there copyright on the original work.

3. Can we tie in "Big Name Talent"

Actors and actresses are considered as "assets" by the studios. If you put together the right stars (even though the script and store are complete crap) you can get profitable film. These individuals may not be the "most talented" but they have the "most recognizeability" with audiences and thus generate more ticket sales.

4. Are there opportunities for product placement?

This is crucial for Hollywood to make films. Spielberg is the worst with this one...seriously he is an incredibly talented director, but just watch Minority Report, Jurasic Park, or his latest Executive Produced project Transformers. Count the company logos and insignias. All of that pay for the high budget projects and all ticket sales are thus gravy. It's clever and definitely business saavy but often I find them very distracting.


If you can ask those 4 questions and find projects that are favorable to those questions than YOU can be a Hollywood Exec today. I don't hate them or dislike them for that matter. I just understand the business from working in it. If you want to watch something insightful, original, uninhibited, and artistic you have to go to independent film for that. And there are some incredible pieces out there. You just have to go looking for them. They won't be dropping into theaters anytime soon.

Here is a gem I saw earlier this year in march that is coming to theaters. "The King of Kong" [apple.com] a great documentary about the 80's that makes me remember my childhood but also tells an entertaining story. Most of the people here on /. will love it.

Re:Are there any original ideas in Hollywood anymo (1)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203293)

Might I direct you to your nearest Art Movie-Theater? Of course, most of them suck, but there are a few gems.

Robotech Please!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20202559)

Hello Holloywood,

We need to see a pretty little Lynn Minmei in a short skirt dancing on the big screen. Also, Veritech Fighters would be a plus.

CoPA bait (1)

TheConfusedOne (442158) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202753)

IIRC Minmei was something like 13 years old in Robotech.

Re:CoPA bait (2, Informative)

countjared (919257) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203239)

No, she was fifteen at the start of the series. She turned 16 (Sweet Sixteen episode) around episode 7 or 8. Then she would have been like 18 or 19 by the end of the series.

Form blazing sword (1, Offtopic)

deniable (76198) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202607)

Anyone want to bet what the last move in the final fight will be.

For some reason I always liked the vehicle force better. Planet Drool were a more competent enemy than Doom.

I was home one afternoon and caught the Power Rangers. I swear they were using Volton toys in that show. It sure looked like it.

Re:Form blazing sword (1)

Robotech_Master (14247) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202761)

The funny thing is, it's actually the other way around. The first Super Sentai (the live-action rubber-suit series that has provided the grist for all the Power Rangers incarnations) predates GoLions (the Japanese name for the Voltron lion series) cartoon by several years. If anything, it's GoLions that was the "ripoff" (if you can call "Hey, let's use the sentai formula in animation instead of live action) of Sentai. (So was Gatchaman/Battle of the Planets, for that matter.)

Voltron is a TV Series (1)

in2mind (988476) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202619)

The original Voltron is a Japanese TV Series.Not a Film.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086824/ [imdb.com]

But...Voltron got SERVED! (3, Funny)

SCHecklerX (229973) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202625)

For some reason... (3, Funny)

david.given (6740) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202645)

...I can't get this sequence from ReBoot [youtube.com] out of my mind when reading the story...

My God!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20202651)

Think of my childhood!!!!

the old show (1)

jgarra23 (1109651) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202679)

I remember liking the cat version of voltron when I was a kid... then I watched it with my kids recently (who love it) and for some reason the storyline seemed like some nutty commie propaganda.

Now wasn't there some other space-ship based show also called voltron that had nothing to do with metal cats?

Re:the old show (1)

garett_spencley (193892) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202951)

I remember liking the cat version of voltron when I was a kid... then I watched it with my kids recently (who love it) and for some reason the storyline seemed like some nutty commie propaganda.

I feel the same way about pretty much every single show that I watched as a child.

My wife is a uber comic / cartoon / movie geek. She went and bought the Thundercats season 1 box set. I LOVED the Thundercats as a kid and was very eager to watch a few episodes and bring back some childhood memories. "Yawn" is pretty much the only word I can use to describe my experience "reconnecting with my youth".

I loved the Transformers movie. But I can't sit through the cartoons any more. Any film that tries to put an adult twist on cartoons or shows from the 80's to attempt to appeal to the children of that time who are now grown up I can certainly relate to and get into. But there are tons of movies and cartoons and music that I loved as a child that I am not the slightest bit interested in anymore as an adult. But I assume that's normal.

I'm not in the least bit religious but Corinthians 13:11 comes to mind "When I was a child, I used to speak like a child, think like a child, reason like a child; when I became a man, I did away with childish things".

Nothing against people who still enjoy cartoons from their childhood, though. In fact I envy them slightly.

Re:the old show (1)

cbreaker (561297) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203047)

Well, if they make a remake of Thundercats, I just hope they put some thought into who will play Cheetara =)

Re:the old show (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20203083)

Now wasn't there some other space-ship based show also called voltron that had nothing to do with metal cats?

Yes, there was, and I guess in one episode both the lion Voltron and the space car Voltron battle side by side to defeat whoever it was.

A friend send me a YouTube link once, so you might be able to find it if you look around there.

Oblig. (1)

caylem (1014541) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202681)

I, for one, welcome our new robotic overlo- oh wait...

Blazing Sword FTW (1)

Junior J. Junior III (192702) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202719)

Spoiler alert: At the end of the movie, Voltron defeats the Ro-beast using the Blazing Sword.

Related trailer? (1)

Dani Filth (677047) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202795)

What's next??? (4, Funny)

Ctrl-Z (28806) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202799)

What could possibly follow up a Voltron movie? Thundercats?

Re:What's next??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20203003)

Thundercats?

Hopefully not! Thundercats suck!

Re:What's next??? (1)

Maxite (782150) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203067)

No. It'll be Gigantor.

Re:What's next??? (1)

m0nkyman (7101) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203295)

Battle Of The Planets

Re:What's next??? (1)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203397)

Ancient spirits of evil, transform this decayed form to Thundercats: The Movie!

Re:What's next??? (4, Informative)

gatzke (2977) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203485)


Thundercats is in pre-production, slated for 2010.

http://imdb.com/title/tt1047015/ [imdb.com]

Oh dear... (1)

heroicnonsense (876263) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202853)

I wonder when the online petition to get Peter Cullen to read the intro will start.

Smell that? It's a DUPE! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20202905)

For the love of all things holy (1)

nuclearpenguins (907128) | more than 7 years ago | (#20202915)

Please leave the 80's alone! We don't need more remakes and revisionings. Of course there are gobs of morons who pay to see this shit. I would personally like to smack everyone who comes out of theater after having seen the new Alvin and the Chipmunks. Oh, did you know they're making a Smurfs movie too? WHEN WILL IT END HOLLYWOOD?!

Something to think about... (2, Interesting)

PJ1216 (1063738) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203049)

A lot of you are complaining that they are basically strip mining our childhood and taking these awesome shows and turning them into mediocre movies with big-budget special effects. Well, yea, they are, but I don't think its completely their own fault. We're blaming them for not having decent story lines, but lets think about this for a second. Do you *remember* the story lines these shows used to have? We grew up in a different time back then. Personally, I think it was because we were better at having an imagination. We didn't need things like "realism" and "believability". We were fine when some guy was shot in the face, had plastic surgery, and became a crime fighter along with his sidekick: a pontiac grand am that can talk and had a cool red light that flashed back on forth on his hood.

Yea, these guys see nothing but dollar signs with these things. They're not trying to bring a childhood memory to the big screen to make us happy. However, lets remember the scripts the original writers of these shows used to throw at us and realize that maybe the script that went along with Transformers wasn't so bad. In this day and age, people need realism and all that and they *tried* to do that with Transformers. But, come on, how many plausible ideas can you think of for the creation of a talking semi?

I for one am going to see this movie and I'll probably be pleased by the special effects and the nostalgia that will come to mind from my childhood. Let them strip mine my memories... I for one think that awesome explosions, great advances in CGI, and fight scenes are a decent trade-off. Let's not forget Underdog was from our childhood as well. At least they didn't do *that* to Transformers...

Re:Something to think about... (1)

crankyspice (63953) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203091)

along with his sidekick: a pontiac grand am

Grand Am?! Um, no. The Knight Industries Two Thousand (K.I.T.T.) was a Firebird Trans-Am. Compare and contrast: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/88 /800px-83firebird.jpg [wikimedia.org] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a /'85-'88_Pontiac_Grand_Am.jpg [wikimedia.org]

But you're right, the plots of those shows (including Battle of the Planets, aka Voltron) were simplistic and preposterous. "Together with the good planets of the solar system..." Evil witches, coffin-shaped star ships, helpful mice...

Anyway, we al know KITT was built using captured Cylon technology as part of the Battlestar Galactica's crew's attempt to bring Earth up to technological parity...

Re:Something to think about... (1)

IL-CSIXTY4 (801087) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203323)

A lot of you are complaining that they are basically strip mining our childhood and taking these awesome shows and turning them into mediocre movies with big-budget special effects. Well, yea, they are, but I don't think its completely their own fault.
You're right, there are sinister forces at work, and the results could be disastrous [csixty4.com] .

Forget Voltron (1)

jcorno (889560) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203103)

How about some Tranzor Z?

Re:Forget Voltron (1)

tmortn (630092) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203217)

Dottie Fire 1....

Tranzor Z will be the porno version of Voltron.... that show was hysterical

Who? (0, Troll)

mlk (18543) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203229)

Never seen it before. Looks like that crap Power Rangers.

In other news... (1)

zakezuke (229119) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203325)

Hollywood will take it upon them selves to create a feature length version of
Battling Seizure Robots [youtube.com]

Voltes V (1)

RichiP (18379) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203339)

I'd watch it if it were Voltes V [wikipedia.org] they were making. It's the first anime I saw that featured vehicles "volting" into each other to form a larger robot. Not to mention I kinda dig the sappy underlying story.

I'm not the only one who says this... (1)

Lisandro (799651) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203375)

...but fuck Voltron. Where is my Centurions [wikipedia.org] movie?! That one has been overdue for years now!

Re:I'm not the only one who says this... (1)

Wilson_6500 (896824) | more than 7 years ago | (#20203429)

Hey, if you get your Centurions movie, why can't I get my M.A.S.K. movie?

Now all we need is live action Gundam. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20203377)

I dont care if its new or based on one of the anime series; There needs to be a good live action GUNDAM.

As the Brokeback Mountain sequel? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20203427)

After all, I can't imagine anything being gayer than live action Voltron.

fuck this shit (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20203501)

comic books are for fags.
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