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Sony Runs Walkman Off Sugar-Based Bio Battery

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 6 years ago | from the sweeeeeet dept.

Sony 204

StonyandCher writes "Sony has created a battery that produces electricity by breaking down sugar. The bio cell, which measures 39 millimeters cubed, delivers 50mW — a world record for such a cell, according to the company. 'In the bio cell sugar-digesting enzymes at the anode extract electrons and hydrogen ions from the glucose. The hydrogen ions pass through a membrane separator to the cathode where they absorb oxygen from the air to produce water as a byproduct. The electrons flow around the circuit outside the device producing the electricity needed to power it.'"

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And just why won't this work for.... (3, Interesting)

Bomarc (306716) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345181)

Laptops, cars etc?

Re:And just why won't this work for.... (5, Funny)

dapsychous (1009353) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345211)

I can't wait for the Dell-Biobattery recall: My laptop popped, then began to digest itself on the desk.

Battery Product Name? (4, Funny)

WED Fan (911325) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345381)

Sony refers to the sugar powered battery as a "Teenager".

Note: Purchasing teenagers is illegal in every country except Saudia Arabia and Nigeria.

Re:Battery Product Name? (5, Funny)

skeevy (926052) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345907)

Sony refers to the sugar powered battery as a "Teenager".

Yes, but it's been conclusively determined that you can't get any useful work out of a "Teenager" no matter how much sugar you feet it.

Now if you could harness the power that comes from the laser-like glare of contempt they constantly produce, you could probably power a small town...

Re:And just why won't this work for.... (5, Interesting)

iamdrscience (541136) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345443)

This battery can only output 50mW of power. A laptop could easily be consuming 50W when it's rather busy so to satisfy those requirements you would need a thousand of these cells. The article says that the cells are 39mm squared so that would take up a volume of over two cubic feet (somebody check my math on this). Similarly, the size you would need to power a car is also far too large.

Besides that though, the article makes no mention of how much power the battery actually holds, i.e. who cares if it can put out 50mW if it can only do it for two minutes.

Math double-check (1)

benhocking (724439) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345677)

If we assume the cubes are 39 mm for all 3 dimensions, each one is 59 cm^3. Therefore, you could fit 1,000 of them in 59,000 cm^3 (2.1 ft^3, agreeing with your calculation), which would be a cube that was 39 cm (1.3 feet) for all 3 dimensions. So yes, a wee bit big.

Re:And just why won't this work for.... (2, Interesting)

Arthur B. (806360) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345693)

the article says 39 milimiters cubed, I read that as 39 mm^3. 39,000 mm^3 would be 39 cm^3 that's a bar of length 3.9cm, height 1cm and width 1cm, actually much smaller than current laptop batteries. Of course maybe the article meant 39mm x 39mm x 39mm then it would take 1521 times more space. Also I don't think the volume of the fuel is taken into account.

Re:And just why won't this work for.... (1)

iamdrscience (541136) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345831)

the article says 39 milimiters cubed, I read that as 39 mm^3
I'm pretty sure they meant a cube that was 39mm on all sides, if they meant 39mm^3 they probably would have said "39 cubic millimeters". It's not 100% clear though, they could just be using imprecise language.

Re:And just why won't this work for.... (2, Informative)

sholden (12227) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345927)

It means the 39x39x39 version but was written by someone partially illiterate. See http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/08/24/sony_sugar _battery/ [reghardware.co.uk] for a picture and the dimensions specified correctly.

Re:And just why won't this work for.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20345737)

A 10x10x10 would have 1000 cells. 50mW * 1000 = 50(mW*1000) = 50W

39mm cubed = 3.4mm x 3.4mm x 3.4mm (dimensions of cube)

10 cells * 3.4mm = 3.4cm

So cube is 3.4cm ^ 3 (or 0.1feet) in all 3 dimensions

Re:And just why won't this work for.... (1)

GreyPoopon (411036) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345827)

The article says that the cells are 39mm squared so that would take up a volume of over two cubic feet (somebody check my math on this).

But how much of the 39mm^3 volume is required for the fuel, and how would the size of the components change as you scale up the output? Maybe it's possible to build a 50W device that is not tremendously bigger than this one.

Re:And just why won't this work for.... (1)

MeBot (943893) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345639)

Anyone else picturing a line of people at the airport waiting for a long flight... each with a laptop and a 5 pound bag of sugar? And the TSA agents freaking out because everyone's stuff has a thin coating of white powder?

Re:And just why won't this work for.... {DHLS} (2, Interesting)

Bomarc (306716) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345875)

Ok, but CAN you bring the sugar bags onto the flight? It can be used as a rocket [jamesyawn.com] fuel [popsci.com] and here [psu.edu] ; and as an explosive [flashback.se] Sugar [msn.com] has a LOT of energy! [calorieking.com]

Re:And just why won't this work for.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20345919)

An old joke

An Soviet Russian engineer invented a battery powered watch, and Stalin wanted to see the watch, so the engineer went to Kremlin. When the time was ready, the secretary told the engineer "Stalin is ready to see you... No, no, you don't need to carry your luggage, it is perfectly safe here." And the engineer said, "This is not luggage, this is the battery pack."

And a new one

A group of engineers made the sugar powered car into the NASCAR, and the president of the United States acclaimed "Ladies and Gentlemen, start your... No. 33, please remove your facility truck from the track, we are about to start... What? That's your battery pack?"

Re:And just why won't this work for.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20345939)

What I really want to know is how long is it going to take before they issue a recall?

Re:And just why won't this work for.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20345977)

Strike One: I actually read TFA

Strike Two: It mentions water as a by-product. Are we going to need a condensate line to remove this water from our laptops?

Strike Three: I can see the new Warranty Info on laptops powered in this manner. Damages caused by clogged condensate lines are not covered under your warranty.

Yer out!

Consistency? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20345191)

One thing that I think would be a problem with "bio"-anything is consistency. What if it gets too hot, too cold, too humid, whatever? Do the biological components start behaving differently? Will the power output stay consistent under extreme vibration, etc?

but.... (1)

duanco (958176) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345193)

but...can they use sugartwin....

Sony batteries (4, Funny)

syrinx (106469) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345195)

The bio cell, which measures 39 millimeters cubed, delivers 50mW -- a world record for such a cell, according to the company.

The real question is, how much force does it create when it explodes?

Re:Sony batteries (4, Funny)

kevinx (790831) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345621)

will it blend? that would be sweet.

I propose this become the new standard in battery (1, Funny)

netsavior (627338) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345197)

No sony device will run on anything else, sure it is less efficient and probably won't work for very long, but sony brand SugarRay is now the only power you are allowed to use in your house. Old standards and new technology aren't important.

This just in HighDefinitionBatteries have been adopted by the biggest battery studios SugarRay is now dead.

Re:I propose this become the new standard in batte (1)

TheNinjaroach (878876) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345747)

but sony brand SugarRay
Rhino Records [rhino.com] , the Warner Music Group and the RIAA resent this statement. Don't bother running, they've already released the lawyers on you.

FSPP! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20345209)

First sugar powered post

Lovely (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20345217)

OH great, now I'll have to pay higher sugar prices. Oh wait, I already am... :(

Thank you Ethanol!!!!

Though this means I could concievably harvest my own sugar and store away enough to power a small generator capable of taking over the world. :)

Screw that (5, Funny)

Arthur B. (806360) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345225)

I can convert glucose to energy very efficiently, just give me a crank.

Re:Screw that (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20345687)

Good. You can power my coach then.

Am I not merciful?!

Re:Screw that (5, Funny)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345805)

I can convert glucose to energy very efficiently, just give me a crank.
*sigh* Leave it to the Slashdot crowd to turn every story into a masturbation joke.

Re:Screw that (2, Informative)

Arthur B. (806360) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345843)

You have a twisted mind. I would *genuinely* appreciate the ability to power mobile devices with a foldable crank.

Re:Screw that (4, Funny)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345903)

You have a twisted mind. I would *genuinely* appreciate the ability to power mobile devices with a foldable crank.
So I'm the one who turned it into a masturbation joke? Then my fall to the dark side is complete. Where's my red fucking lightsaber?

Re:Screw that (4, Funny)

Arthur B. (806360) | more than 6 years ago | (#20346001)

Right there in your hand.

Argh now I've fallen too.

Let me be the first to say... (5, Funny)

Davenport Spiff jr (1076315) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345233)

Sweet!

Oh, great ... (4, Funny)

trolltalk.com (1108067) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345241)

After months an all-sugar diet, your Walkman becomes obese and sluggish, then you need to give it regular insulin injections, etc.

Re:Oh, great ... (1)

arth1 (260657) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345649)

I'm more interested in where the amp and headphones are that can be powered by what's left over from 50 mW after the D/A converter does its job (decoding MP3 or Sony's love format, ATRAC, is clearly out of the question).

Seriously, they would have to serial couple so many of these that it would indeed be an obese device.

Regards,
--
*Art

Re:Oh, great ... (1)

master_meio (834537) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345829)

Repeat after me, [slashdot.org] "I am not entitled to a large network of friends. No one should be forced to like me or associate with me. If I want to meet people and gain friends I will have to make myself more appealing to those people in some way."

Now, continue repeating that until you stop being a jackass.

I am a geek now, I have always been a geek. My definition of "Party" has always been slightly different that many other peoples. There was no shortage of social opportunity for me. I was just pickier about which ones I chose. There is NO REASON for the people I chose not to socialize with to have to allow me to participate in their group activities.

Bah. Why am I even responding to you...

Big deal (3, Funny)

HeavensBlade23 (946140) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345255)

...my body's been doing that for years.

ANOTHER FOOD-BASED FUEL CELL (2, Insightful)

Mr.Fork (633378) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345265)

I hate be a bit of a troll on this but Economists are already warning about food-based sources for fuel. Using grains to create ethanol could have a negative impact on the food market by driving up prices - especially for poor countries. Now Sony, in their infinate capatilsitic wisdom, have created a way to power a device, using suger. Nice. So in 15 years down the road, families around the world start starving so I can power my power-hungry laptop with a few pounds of suger, and dump a tonne of ehtanol into my gas guzzling HUMMER to get 10MPG. It's nice to know that my own personal power needs can determine whether or not the worlds poor can feed themselves. It's time to move away from this as an alternative power source because it's the 'right thing to do.'

Re:ANOTHER FOOD-BASED FUEL CELL (4, Insightful)

iggymanz (596061) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345309)

sugar doesn't have to come from grains, that's the stupid way. All plant cellulose is a bunch of sugars hooked end to end.

Don't forget chitin (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20345433)

we wouldn't want bugs and mushrooms to feel left out.

"Yeah, my notebook runs on insect exoskeletons and fungi."

It'll work!!! (1)

porkThreeWays (895269) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345357)

Just ask Mr Fusion.

Re:ANOTHER FOOD-BASED FUEL CELL (1)

Harmonious Botch (921977) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345417)

Your use - or, for that matter, everybody's use - of sugar to power a laptop won't have nearly the effect on starving third worlders as their own government's corruption and mismanagement. There is enough food to go around, the problem is allocation, not your laptop.

Food subsidies (5, Insightful)

vlad_petric (94134) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345431)

If food prices are driven up, many poor countries are in fact going to benefit. With their very cheap labor, they could, at least in theory, produce cheap food and even export it. However, food subsidies in the developed world essentially kills their markets. Not only are they not able to export, they end up importing cheaper, subsidized food.

Re:Food subsidies (2, Interesting)

good soldier svejk (571730) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345697)

This model has been disastrously unsuccessful [wikipedia.org] in the past. Exportable cash crops crowd out domestic food production [wikipedia.org] leaving agricultural workers poor and malnourished. The technology sounds like fermentation to me. My car gets forty rods to the hogshead, and that's the way I likes it!

Re:Food subsidies (1)

dslauson (914147) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345849)

You've heard of the Great Potato Famine [wikipedia.org] of Ireland, right? The thing is, there wasn't a true shortage of food, it was just so profitable to export that the poor in the country couldn't compete, and thus couldn't afford to purchase the food their own country produced. People starved.

I'm sure they would have loved to buy cheaper food from other countries as you say, but that food was being exported to the more affluent countries as well.

Re:Another Food-Based Fuel Cell (1)

pete-classic (75983) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345513)

That is a valid concern, but you don't propose an alternative. If reducing consumption was going to save us it would have started improving things by now. So we're left with supply.

As far as I can tell, plants are the only practical, sustainable way to extract the solar energy we need. Planting inedible plants would make the problems you cite worse, since it would decrease the flexibility of the market. (Specifically, "fuel" crops couldn't be used to feed people in the short term if there was a food crop failure.)

The answer "solar cells", in this case, would be the logical inverse of, "Let them eat cake."

There are a lot of up-sides to plant-based fuel. It forms a closed carbon cycle. It can be produced near where people live. It creates local work everywhere. It's sustainable.

-Peter

Re:ANOTHER FOOD-BASED FUEL CELL (1)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345523)

Heh. Well, 50 more years of burning gasoline in your 10 MPG HUMMER and burning coal to power your 2-hr battery life Sony laptop, and world hunger will be the least of your concerns. The entire world economy will be collapsing under its own weight as the few remaining superpowers burn even more oil fighting wars over the last few remaining drops of oil. Adding to it, due to fact that the polar ice caps will have melted so much, the home you bought next to the ocean is now under water. Chaos and panic are setting in as people struggle to figure out exactly what it is they're going to do now that the governments have failed to maintain order.

Good luck with that!

Oh yeah...and you don't need to take sugar from grains or cane, either. Sugar can be acquired from almost any plant cellulose.

Re:ANOTHER FOOD-BASED FUEL CELL (1)

FlatLine84 (1084689) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345553)

That's a very good point. You also have to look at what resources are used to produce that sugar, most of which as in fact fossil fuels. It's a nice little vicious cycle, we need to use resources to produce other resources. The only advantage of agriculture based resources is they are "renewable" and it creates job for people in the US if they want it... But, it takes a lot of land, which is something we're coming up short on....

Re:ANOTHER FOOD-BASED FUEL CELL (1)

avatar4d (192234) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345607)

You don't think there would be an incentive to innovate new ways of producing the materials, possibly synthetically?

Re:ANOTHER FOOD-BASED FUEL CELL (1)

Colin Smith (2679) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345683)

Using grains to create ethanol could have a negative impact on the food market by driving up prices - especially for poor countries.
Poor countries will become farmers... They'll make a bundle.

 

Re:ANOTHER FOOD-BASED FUEL CELL (1)

king-manic (409855) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345723)

Using grains to create ethanol could have a negative impact on the food market by driving up prices - especially for poor countries.

One of the major problems in many of those countries is they now have more people then they can actually feed from local agriculture (IE. over the local carrying capacity). This over population tends to diminish the local carrying capacity over time and results in things like desertification and ecological stress. If for some reason the food stops coming (economic instability, the whims of donor nations, war, natural disaster etc...) you have a massive famine on your hands. Cheap food is used as a weapon as well to keep nations under thumb (ie. egypt) and ensure only the ones that back the food rich west (ie. dictators in most of Africa) stay in power.

In the long run for these nations it'd be better if essential food crops sky rocket in price and cash crops diminish. Coffee and most cash crops can't feed the hungry and many of these poor nations grow little else. If grain were incredibly expensive then they would have an incentive to grow that instead which may get them better sustainability and autonomy.

Re:ANOTHER FOOD-BASED FUEL CELL (1)

The Slashdot Guy (793685) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345735)

In 15 years, you'll have grown up and you won't care.

Re:ANOTHER FOOD-BASED FUEL CELL (1)

TheTick21 (143167) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345797)

Why wait? I'll put sugar in your hummer right now. Just tell me where its parked!

Re:ANOTHER FOOD-BASED FUEL CELL (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20345953)

For fuck's sakes why does no one get it. MORE FOOD = MORE STARVATION. Ecology 101.

But does it... (0, Offtopic)

hax0r_this (1073148) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345273)

play BluRay discs? And does it have DRM so as to protect the consumer?

Re:But does it... (1)

Stormx2 (1003260) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345685)

Listen, we already have a bunch of stories on /. about the evils of DRM. On one of those stories, your comment would be redundant at best. Right now it's offtopic, stupid, attention-seeking _and_ redundant. Epic fail.

The New Overlords (3, Funny)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345311)

That's all we need: unkillable devices competing with humans for food. That can lull us to sleep or drive us crazy just by playing the same song over and over.

We'll go out not with a bang, or a whimper, but a "shuffle".

Re:The New Overlords (3, Funny)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345845)

That's all we need: unkillable devices competing with humans for food. That can lull us to sleep or drive us crazy just by playing the same song over and over.

We'll go out not with a bang, or a whimper, but a "shuffle".
Do you not remember the slugbot story from a while back? Robotic slug killer crawls through the garden scooping up slugs to be digested and converted into robot fuel. Yeah, they started with slugs because we feel they're icky. They'll move on to cockroaches and nobody will care, then lobbyists and politicians and lawyers. And then when they come for the humans, there will be no one else to save us...unless we live upstairs. But God help us if they assimilate the design for that stair-climbing wheelchair.

Are these in use yet? (4, Interesting)

Phat_Tony (661117) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345317)

Someone who follows this field please reply- how are they doing with using these things to run implantable medical devices? Are they on the market, in human testing, in animal testing, in design, still just a glint in a venture capitalist's eye?

I know they're planning to have all sorts of implantable blood-powered sensors that send radio signals out to monitors. So, for one example, a diabetic can have a continuous blood glucose meter implanted in their wrist, which is powered by something like this, and sends wireless signals to a wrist-watch that gives continuous readings of blood glucose, bypassing all the finger-pricking blood tests. And the watch could then store that data and send it to the computer, where they can track it, graph it, correlate it with diet and exercise, recognize trends in the disease, etc. I'm sure there are endless cool potential medical uses. But I've been hearing about this for many years now, and while I'm sure I could Google up how it's going with a few hours of reading, would some knowledgeable Slashdot reader like to just cut to the chase and tell us where things stand?

Re:Are these in use yet? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20345789)

Well I'm a biomed eng. student and as far as I know, medical devices such as the ones you describe are mostly still not being tested except for a few exceptions.

Captcha: Scandals

AAAAH!! VAMPIRE! (1)

josquint (193951) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345891)

bypassing all the finger-licking blood tests.

Nano-confusion (1)

davidwr (791652) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345331)

Two friends chatting:

"I love your new iPod Nano"

"Oh, that's just the battery."

Considering... (4, Informative)

Bullfish (858648) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345359)

What happened for example in Mexico with tortilla prices http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6319093.stm [bbc.co.uk] and the threat to tequila production as well(!!), I wonder about the wisdom of converting our food supply to slake our thirst for energy. I would far better like to see alternative energy products like hydrogen fuel cells and the like rather than turning over arable land to energy production.

These batteries may have the potential to be good, but the impact on people, especially in the third world where food prices are a large obstacle has the potential to be nasty.

Re:Considering... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20345557)

Isn't the most economical plant->energy product good old simple hemp? Isn't it 18x better than corn for generating ethanol? I'm sure it's full of sugars too, and then after that you can turn it into clothes or packaging.

Of course sensibility has no role in modern life, with paid off politicians. In this light, refactoring the use of food (an essential basic) for energy uses (not as essential as food) is fucking retarded.

Re:Considering... (1)

Valar (167606) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345593)

I suspect that will be a wholly temporary phenomena. Contrary to popular belief, we haven't used nearly all of our arable land. I expect to see corn production increase soon (after all, why wouldn't you want to get into a market for a good that's prices are supposedly up 400%).

And where do hydrogen cells get the hydrogen? (4, Informative)

Sycraft-fu (314770) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345709)

Remember: Hydrogen fuel cells are just batteries in effect. They aren't a method for producing power. You have to have hydrogen gas to make them work and that doesn't occur in quantities such that we can just gather it. It must be separated from another compound, water for example. Ok, but that requires energy. Where does that energy come from?

Supposing that the biogenesis theory of fossil fuel production is correct (the classic theory, that says it comes from living things over long periods and as such is not renewable) we are going to run out of it at some point. Unless you think we should all go live in the wilderness without power (in which case I say you first) we need to find alternate energy sources. Biofuels may well be a good one.

Hydrogen isn't a solution by itself. We may start using it as a more efficient way to store and transport power, but to get it we need to get energy from somewhere.

Unless we are going to take the Luddite answer of saying we need to stop using technology that requires power (which will lead to millions, perhaps billions of deaths as we cannot sustain the current population on preindustrial means) then we have to look for alternate power sources. We can't stick our heads in the sand and just whine about problems. Any energy source will come with problems, that's just life. The problems have to be weighed against the benefits.

Also please remember: Biofuels are in their infancy. Maybe we should keep investing and working, see if we can't figure out ways to make it more efficient. Plants are pretty efficient little solar cells, when you get down to it, we just need to work on getting ones that we can then efficiently turn in to other forms of energy.

Water as a by-product? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20345361)

So my walkman will need to tinkle?

So... (1)

Cutie Pi (588366) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345373)

So Sony is cool again, right?

Re:So... (1)

Humorless Coward. (862619) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345437)

uh...
no.

Please put all "That's pretty sweet" jokes here. (4, Funny)

nobodyman (90587) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345377)

Please put your "That's Sweet" jokes under this thread, and be sure to include your home address and the specific way you would like me to kill you.

Re:Please put all "That's pretty sweet" jokes here (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20345489)

That's Sweet!

1600 Pensylvania Avenue
Washington DC 20500

ask for "W"

Re:Please put all "That's pretty sweet" jokes here (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20345491)

Folks, don't listen to the parent murder conspirist. Post all the sugar jokes you want.

Re:Please put all "That's pretty sweet" jokes here (3, Funny)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345871)

Please put your "That's Sweet" jokes under this thread, and be sure to include your home address and the specific way you would like me to kill you.
234 Elm Street, Amityville, Florida. Heart attack after an orgy involving the entire swedish bikini team. Making this happen is an exercise left for the assassin. Oh, and "Sweet!"

sugar? we don't get sugar here... (3, Funny)

SomeGuyFromCA (197979) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345387)

Unfortunately, the American version will run off of high-fructose corn syrup.

also, there's an Obvious Simpsons Reference here which I am too lazy to make.

Re:sugar? we don't get sugar here... (3, Funny)

GreatRedShark (880833) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345547)

"In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women"

Bioreactor-cure for Diabetes? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20345403)

They should try to make a self powered mini bioreactors which consume sugar from blood.

Imagining the potetial (2, Interesting)

downix (84795) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345407)

I one day forsee this technology being paired with a highly efficient food processing machine, breaking down foods into their component sugars.

Turning your garbage, old moldy food, etc into your households electricity needs!

Re:Imagining the potetial (1)

tomstdenis (446163) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345633)

Mr. Fusion?

Re:Imagining the potetial (1)

downix (84795) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345701)

Well, nobody ever said that Mr Fusion actually was a Fusion reactor.

Re:Imagining the potetial (1)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345949)

I one day forsee this technology being paired with a highly efficient food processing machine, breaking down foods into their component sugars.

Turning your garbage, old moldy food, etc into your households electricity needs!
But how will it look when mounted to the back of a DeLorean?

Homer's theory of Sugar Power (2, Funny)

decipher_saint (72686) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345413)

First you get the sugar, then you get the power, THEN you get the women!

Re:Homer's theory of Sugar Power (1)

iamdrscience (541136) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345521)

So you're saying that Japanese corporations are trying to steal our women?

Re:Homer's theory of Sugar Power (1)

decipher_saint (72686) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345791)

Have you ever met a girl who didn't like Hello Kitty?

Re:Homer's theory of Sugar Power (1)

f00dif00 (769342) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345911)

All you women are belong to us!

Welcome (1)

Daimanta (1140543) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345419)

I for one, welcome our C12H22O11 overlords

Everything I needed to know I learned in 2nd grade (1)

heroine (1220) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345473)

Who would think those lemon batteries would B the power source of the future.

Medical uses (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20345509)

I wonder if there's potential for medical uses? Like powering pacemakers or other internal electronics, or burning off excess glucose in type II diabetics, or just burning off glucose for weight control

Better use (0, Offtopic)

tie_guy_matt (176397) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345535)

Well I think we have found a better use for carbs: an energy source for walkmen. When I ate a lot of carbs I ended up being over 100 lbs overweight. Cut them out and the weight drops off.

Sony robot name: (1)

openright (968536) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345555)

I think Sony should name their humanoid robot in development "PlayMusic".

bah... old news (1)

s4ck (895807) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345579)

Sony have been "sugar" powered for years. How do you think all those execs get that idea that they are "top of the world" and got the "best products of all time ever" ideas? ... and all those ideas that we'll screw them customers with our proprietary products and they won't notice, they'll beg for more. MORE! **throw face in bag**

(Technical) Art Imitates Life (2, Insightful)

MenTaLguY (5483) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345631)

I think this reflects a trend that we're seeing more of lately: technology using materials and processes taken from biology. This shouldn't be too surprising, as biology is optimized for the particular physics and chemistry of our universe.

First a corn shortage, now sugar (2, Funny)

alta (1263) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345645)

The price of corn went up thanks to all these 'green' autos. Now the price of sugar is going to go up because of personal audio devices!

They need to concentrate on getting power out of byproducts like veggie diesel. Now gimme a walkman with a small diesel engine running a small generator and then I'll be happy. Granted i'll have to stand in one place because it'll be too heavy to carry. And my hands will stink after fueling. At least grease doesn't explode to readily.

Hey, here's a question. Would a Vegan drive a volkswagon that runs off of animal fat grease? What a delimma... it's already dead, and it would be 'green.' What about a car that runs off of roadkill. Ok, this is going to be modd'd offtopic ;)

Oblig Dell post (1, Funny)

Bearhouse (1034238) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345661)

This just in, "Sony and Dell in sweet new deal that promises explosive new laptop experience!"

Thanks, Sony, you bastards. (1)

argStyopa (232550) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345669)

Well, that's the end of free packets of sugar.

Solar energy (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20345715)

I think we have just found our ultracheap solar panels, Sugar Cane!

on/off (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20345769)

How does it not react when youre not using it? This seems like something that would keep reacting all the time until it ran out.

Mr. Fusion (1)

Lord Ender (156273) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345909)

I'm single, and food in the US is only sold in "family size" portions. That means 50% of the stuff I buy spoils or gets moldy before I have a chance to eat it. Today, this goes in the trash or garbage disposal. But once this sort of battery becomes common, we will just have sugar processors. Dump your moldy food in, and fuel cells come out for use in your phone, iPod, laptop, and whatever else.

It really is like the Mr. Fusion! Garbage powered devices!

And for the people saying this will lead to food shortages in poor countries: No, using food I would have otherwise thrown away is not going to affect them at all.

High Fructose Corn Syrup (2, Funny)

cerelib (903469) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345943)

So will the US version need to use high fructose corn syrup instead to avoid the crazy sugar industry restrictions?

made one in kindergarden myself (1)

2ms (232331) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345979)

Psh, this is supposed to be news? I made one of these with an apple, two wires, and a digital clock in kindergarden.

The perfect biofuel? (1)

Spy der Mann (805235) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345983)

For children, this means your kid can have his mini-toy robot run off sugar. So when it gets tired you just have to actually feed him with sugar, and ta-da!

But what's the efficiency of sugar? I found in a diet site the following data:

  • 1 gram of carbohydrate (i.e. sugar) = 4 calories
  • 1 gram of protein = 4 calories
  • 1 gram of fat = 9 calories (this is equivalent to burning gasoline)
  • 1 gram of alcohol = 7 calories


So sugar is very inefficiency compared to other fuels. But at least it's a start. In any case, this reminds me of the times where we had to depend on animals to do the heavy work. How did you recharge animals? With plants, of course! Maybe that should be our goal, to have all our machines running on biofuel, hence becoming carbon neutral.

All you can do is complain? (0, Flamebait)

hike2 (550205) | more than 6 years ago | (#20345993)

/rant
Reading all these responses makes me think that all you can do is complain about this or that. What about, this is neat, maybe battery life will be longer, maybe I don't have to cry Noooo when I'm on a plane and my battery died. Also I have noticed that just about everyone turned into some sort of activist. Discussions are mostly about *impact* on this or that, not that much on the technology. Also it seems that on every opportunity a political slant is added to every comment. I thought this was mostly a tech site ... I must be wrong.

On that note, the huge impacts with food price changes and all that hinge on one HUGE assumption: mass adoption. Not to mention the time until this will actually be sold and OTHER inventions/technological advances made at the same time. Who knows, we may find a way to produce said sugars from OTHER sources ... anyone think of THAT?
rant\
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