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Water Vapor Seen 'Raining' Onto Young Star System

Zonk posted about 7 years ago | from the the-weather-outside-is-frightful dept.

Space 53

tonganqn writes "Using NASA's Spitzer Space Telescope scientists have discovered huge amounts of water vapor in the young star system, called NGC 1333-IRAS 4B. From the article: 'The water vapor is pouring down from the system's natal cloud and smacking into a dusty disk where planets are thought to form. The observations provide the first direct look at how water, an essential ingredient for life as we know it, begins to make its way into planets, possibly even rocky ones like our own.'"

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Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20429649)

Pirst Fost

Re:YEAHHHHH (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20429819)

Please quit posting this shit! (literally!)

A few years ago, while browsing around the library downtown, I
had to take a piss. As I entered the john a big beautiful all-American
football hero type, about twenty-five, came out of one of the booths.
I stood at the urinal looking at him out of the corner of my eye as he
washed his hands. He didn't once look at me. He was "straight" and
married - and in any case I was sure I wouldn't have a chance with

        As soon as he left I darted into the booth he'd vacated,
hoping there might be a lingering smell of shit and even a seat still
warm from his sturdy young ass. I found not only the smell but the
shit itself. He'd forgotten to flush. And what a treasure he had left
behind. Three or four beautiful specimens floated in the bowl. It
apparently had been a fairly dry, constipated shit, for all were fat,
stiff, and ruggedly textured. The real prize was a great feast of turd
- a nine inch gastrointestinal triumph as thick as a man's wrist.

        I knelt before the bowl, inhaling the rich brown fragrance and
wondered if I should obey the impulse building up inside me. I'd
always been a heavy rimmer and had lapped up more than one little
clump of shit, but that had been just an inevitable part of eating ass
and not an end in itself. Of course I'd had jerk-off fantasies of
devouring great loads of it (what rimmer hasn't), but I had never done
it. Now, here I was, confronted with the most beautiful five-pound
turd I'd ever feasted my eyes on, a sausage fit to star in any fantasy
and one I knew to have been hatched from the asshole of the world's
handsomest young stud.

        Why not? I plucked it from the bowl, holding it with both
hands to keep it from breaking. I lifted it to my nose. It smelled
like rich, ripe limburger (horrid, but thrilling), yet had the
consistency of cheddar. What is cheese anyway but milk turning to shit
without the benefit of a digestive tract?

        I gave it a lick and found that it tasted better then it
smelled. I've found since then that shit nearly almost does.

        I hesitated no longer. I shoved the fucking thing as far into
my mouth as I could get it and sucked on it like a big brown cock,
beating my meat like a madman. I wanted to completely engulf it and
bit off a large chunk, flooding my mouth with the intense, bittersweet
flavor. To my delight I found that while the water in the bowl had
chilled the outside of the turd, it was still warm inside. As I chewed
I discovered that it was filled with hard little bits of something I
soon identified as peanuts. He hadn't chewed them carefully and they'd
passed through his body virtually unchanged. I ate it greedily,
sending lump after peanutty lump sliding scratchily down my throat. My
only regret was the donor of this feast wasn't there to wash it down
with his piss.

        I soon reached a terrific climax. I caught my cum in the
cupped palm of my hand and drank it down. Believe me, there is no more
delightful combination of flavors than the hot sweetness of cum with
the rich bitterness of shit.

        Afterwards I was sorry that I hadn't made it last longer. But
then I realized that I still had a lot of fun in store for me. There
was still a clutch of virile turds left in the bowl. I tenderly fished
them out, rolled them into my handkerchief, and stashed them in my
briefcase. In the week to come I found all kinds of ways to eat the
shit without bolting it right down. Once eaten it's gone forever
unless you want to filch it third hand out of your own asshole. Not an
unreasonable recourse in moments of desperation or simple boredom.

        I stored the turds in the refrigerator when I was not using
them but within a week they were all gone. The last one I held in my
mouth without chewing, letting it slowly dissolve. I had liquid shit
trickling down my throat for nearly four hours. I must have had six
orgasms in the process.

        I often think of that lovely young guy dropping solid gold out
of his sweet, pink asshole every day, never knowing what joy it could,
and at least once did, bring to a grateful shiteater.

No Ice Metorites? (-1, Redundant)

fishybell (516991) | about 7 years ago | (#20429661)

Aw...and I was always welcoming our old icy meteorite overlords.

Re:No Ice Metorites? (0, Redundant)

cstdenis (1118589) | about 7 years ago | (#20429783)

Well I for one welcome our water vapor overlords. Its about time our old icy meteorite overlords were replaced.

Oxygen and Hydrogen (4, Interesting)

OrangeTide (124937) | about 7 years ago | (#20429681)

I can imagine large clouds of thin Oxygen and Hydrogen gas. But how do you get the gas dense enough to actually react. In those gaseous nebulas, the "gas" is nearly a vacuum. And water isn't going to come from anywhere but gaseous hydrogen and oxygen.

Re:Oxygen and Hydrogen (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20429925)

You're thinking backwards. What is actually thought to be the case is that this water vapor is the result of the destruction of a large ice-body, typically a comet. There have been documented cases of two comets colliding, with the result being a relatively concentrated volume of hydrogen and oxygen. These comets are themselves thought to be formed from the polar regions of planets or satellites that have themselves been damaged or destroyed by impacts with other objects.

Re:Oxygen and Hydrogen (1)

OrangeTide (124937) | about 7 years ago | (#20430597)

No it got me thinking. If we can see the water vapor from so far away then it suggests that it is a massive amount of water. I suspect it is a staggering unimaginable amount of water. But suns don't just throw water out, you can't have water vapor in a sun, it would turn to plasma and you'd just end up with hydrogen and oxygen. We know that stars eventually produce all the elements from a source of hydrogen, over many generations of stars for the heavy elements.

I don't think a comet is going to be big enough. I'm imagining more like a Neptune-mass worth of water, minimum.

Re:Oxygen and Hydrogen as Water Vapo(u)r (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20431997)

is never seen.

(Someone deserves an (image word) for their inaccuracy!)

Re:Oxygen and Hydrogen as Water Vapor (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20434887)

What? Your post doesn't make sense.

You might not like this definition(it's not the scientific one), but I'll post it anyways:

              n 1: a visible suspension in the air of particles of some substance [syn: vapour]

Re:Oxygen and Hydrogen (3, Interesting)

MichaelSmith (789609) | about 7 years ago | (#20429933)

But how do you get the gas dense enough to actually react.

And then, how did our solar system get gas dense enough to form solid ice in massive planet size bodies like Pluto, et al?

I don't know either. Perhaps we are only seeing a minute fraction of the gas in that area. The water is a minor condensate, and the comets/planets are a minor condensate from the water.

Re:Oxygen and Hydrogen (1)

netsavior (627338) | about 7 years ago | (#20429987)

much of the ice in the universe also contains methane. When you burn methane it produces heat, CO2 and water. Crash that into a large cloud of oxygen and hydrogen, and you have a fairly likely situation of a sustained set of reactions that melt down the comet, produce water, and leave a nice mix of oxygen and CO2 so that life has a bunch of the key ingredients.

Re:Oxygen and Hydrogen (1)

OrangeTide (124937) | about 7 years ago | (#20430615)

That's a lot of comets I would imagine for water to "rain" on a young solar system.

Where did the comets get their water? Eventually a lot of gas is going to have to clump together and react, it's pretty thin stuff. I guess the coldness of space might limit oxygen's ability to act like an ideal gas and expand to fill the volume of space.

Re:Oxygen and Hydrogen (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20434227)

Bet its all forming around some dark matter. Didn't you get the memo? If you cant explain it, its dark matter!

It's a Steam Punk thing. (3, Funny)

ScentCone (795499) | about 7 years ago | (#20430137)

*clears throat, goes for slightly maniacal tone*

Electric Universe! Come on, man, just think about it. It takes time to develope these things. Before we had the fancy, new Electric Universe, we had the Water-Powered Universe.

Re:Oxygen and Hydrogen (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20430225)

how do you get the gas dense enough to actually react. In those gaseous nebulas/

It's too nebulous a process to explain here.

Re:Oxygen and Hydrogen (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20430975)

Hmm. Send the question to Astronomy Cast :)
They'd be happy to answer it (or go to the Universe Today website).

My guess... billions of years is long enough to make rare events commonplace. (I'm imagining oxygen and hydrogen ejected from dying stars, followed by cosmic rays causing oxygen radical formation (singlet oxygen is quite easy to make), reacting with any hydrogen coming in contact).

Gases (1)

Mark_MF-WN (678030) | about 7 years ago | (#20444817)

Strictly speaking, there aren't any gases in space. It's all ionized -- the universe is mostly plasma.

As for density, the article is about a star-forming region, where densities are much higher. That's the whole point; gravitation is bringing all this matter together into a big cloud, and densities are becoming high enough that molecules -- especially ultra-stable ones like water -- can form.

Behold for it is I (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20429687)

This is your God speaking. Stop watching me piss before I become an angry god......

Re:Behold for it is I (1)

Penguinshit (591885) | about 7 years ago | (#20429771)

If your bush is burning, you need penicillin...

Hot wet young star systems?? (5, Funny)

Froboz23 (690392) | about 7 years ago | (#20429731)

How does NASA let this kind of filth be posted on their websites? Doesn't the Administration have censors to prevent these kinds of morally dubious scientific discoveries?

Like hell if I'm ever going to let my children visit that star system.

MODS ON CRACK (1, Offtopic)

Captain Splendid (673276) | about 7 years ago | (#20429861)

Man, somebody's been a little happy with with the negative mods today. Parent is funny, not a troll.

Re:MODS ON CRACK (1, Informative)

MichaelSmith (789609) | about 7 years ago | (#20429995)

Now that the GP has been modded Funny your post is OT ;)


k8to (9046) | about 7 years ago | (#20432599)

Amusingly, in my personal settings "Funny" is larger markdown than "Troll", so you just downgraded it (subjectively).

(The background to this is that the collective slashdot sense of humour underwhelms me significantly.)


Captain Splendid (673276) | about 7 years ago | (#20434905)

And I have Flamebait and Troll mods set to +5. Sometimes they're the most insightful comments.

Re:Hot wet young star systems?? (2, Funny)

MichaelSmith (789609) | about 7 years ago | (#20429881)

Like hell if I'm ever going to let my children visit that star system.

But they will be thousands of years old by then.

Re:Hot wet young star systems?? (2, Informative)

cstdenis (1118589) | about 7 years ago | (#20430203)

Rule 34?

Re:Hot wet young star systems?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20430259)

Like hell if I'm ever going to let my children visit that star system.

What is this? The R. Kelly star system [] ?

Ultimate Test Case (0, Offtopic)

cmacb (547347) | about 7 years ago | (#20429815)

'The water vapor is pouring down from the system's natal cloud and smacking into a dusty disk where planets are thought to form.

Would this "disk" be Blue-ray or HD DVD?

I'm wondering because the resistance to dust and water (mud) could be a deciding factor in the format wars.

Nobody proved Einstein wrong... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20429817)

The more I read about the discoveries in the solar system the more I'm inclined to believe Einstein's remark: "The micro cosmos is the macro cosmos". iow; we might be all part of an enormous chair or other substance. Think about it; even if you burn a chair you might destroy the object but what about the molecules or better yet; the individual atoms? What if the 4th dimension simply lies in size which, in some unknown scheme, is "wrapped" and thus endless ?

Or, alternatively... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20429847)

What if you stopped taking drugs for five minutes?

Re:Or, alternatively... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20430635)

Or everyone else could take more drugs than G.P. for 5 minutes. Relativity blows the mind.

Re:Or, alternatively... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20432113)

If this gets more recursive, we're going to end up goosing reality the wrong way.

So... (3, Funny)

Pluvius (734915) | about 7 years ago | (#20429931)

I guess this means that Spitzer has discovered a spritzer?


If we had better telescopes . . . (3, Funny)

StefanJ (88986) | about 7 years ago | (#20429945)

. . . we'd see giant terraforming spacecraft from competing interstellar coalitions laying down clouds of spores among the proto-planets in the hopes that life that arises on future worlds will be of their bio-tradition.

Well, not really, but it's cool to think of.

rocky planets like our own... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20429959)

you mean there could be hot wet vapor coming from Uranus?

I love the picture (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20430029)

I read this in a book somewhere... the sequence of events are eerily familiar, what was it called... Oh, yes thats right! - gasp - the BIBLE.

also like the quote "We have captured a unique phase of a young star's evolution, ..."

Re:I love the picture (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20431169)

Shit, not again. Before we know it, girls start raping their fathers again [] .

uh huh (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20430099)

You know the universe is nothing like we perceive it. If the universe is so large that it takes light millions of years to get here then we only know the universe of yester-million-year. We have no clue what it is actually like today.....

In light of this, I would like to say that we should all just give up and be glad that god gave us beer. Now that is the path to true enlightenment.

I'm confused! (1)

jvollmer (456588) | about 7 years ago | (#20430249)

How does water vapor even exist in a vacuum?

Re:I'm confused! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20430729)

I would think that the water would have to be in that phase in a vacuum if it is warm enough to melt.

Re:I'm confused! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20430929)

How can water vapor exist in an atmosphere? What's the difference?

Re:I'm confused! (1)

Daniel Dvorkin (106857) | about 7 years ago | (#20436223)

Um, vapor is one of two ways water can exist in a vacuum. (Ice is the other; liquid water is right out.) "Water vapor" just means a bunch of individual H20 molecules floating around.

One in Thirty (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20430263)

"Why did only one stellar embryo of 30 show signs of water? The astronomers say this is most likely because NGC 1333-IRAS 4B is in just the right orientation for Spitzer to view its dense core. Also, this particular watery phase of a star's life is short-lived and hard to catch."

IANAA. Is this a reasonable explanation?

In Space... (1)

Octopus (19153) | about 7 years ago | (#20430415)

...No One Can Hear You Stream!

re: In Space... (1)

KevinColyer (883316) | about 7 years ago | (#20431955)

... no-one can hear you steam!

oh noes! (2, Funny)

larry bagina (561269) | about 7 years ago | (#20430447)

I just hope it's not chocolate rain!

Re:oh noes! (1)

caol.kailash (1004401) | about 7 years ago | (#20438665)

I just hope it's not chocolate rain!
I'm pleased to report it is not chocolate's purple. But since it's vapor: purple haze.

"like our own..." (1)

posterlogo (943853) | about 7 years ago | (#20431103)

Is this really like our own? From what little I know about planetary geology, I seem to recall that water did not just rain down on our planet, but was possibly created at or near our early planet from constituent atoms. Could someone clarify this?

life (1)

Tsiangkun (746511) | about 7 years ago | (#20431669)

I wonder if this high energy, water rich, dust rich, environment
could provide an environment where basic building blocks of life like
amino acids, lipids, and such could form.

Then these blocks could get frozen into the water vapor,as comets, and sent roaming.

water + dust ... (2, Funny)

ozbird (127571) | about 7 years ago | (#20431717)

... = mud. You might have thought Glastonbury was muddy, but that's just peanuts to space...

Seriously, this might solve how a disc of cigarette smoke-sized particles can condense to form planetesimals, and thus planets.

Water Vapor Seen 'Raining' Onto Young Star System (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20433515)

They're watching us, water in our solar system, raining down upon the rock planet, 3rd from the sun.

Don't be too thrilled about this news (1)

lord_rob the only on (859100) | about 7 years ago | (#20433741)

This could as well be vaporware

fire hose confusion (1)

icepick72 (834363) | about 7 years ago | (#20433845)

Below the story Slashdot has "Related Stores - Firehose: ..." At first I thought it was being suggested by submitter that a fire hose is being used to inject water into new planets.
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