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Apple Releases New Touch Screen iPod

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 7 years ago | from the apple-loans-to-afford-all-the-new-toys-coming-soon dept.

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JSM writes to tell us that Apple released a new version of their popular iPod music player today that boasts, among other things, an iPhone-like touch screen and Wi-Fi capabilities. "The iPod Touch will feature the Safari Internet browser and, like the iPhone, play YouTube videos. Apple also announced a new version of its iTunes music store that will allow users to buy songs wirelessly. iTunes will also sell customizable 99-cent ringtones for the iPhone."

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Take That (5, Funny)

psychicsword (1036852) | more than 7 years ago | (#20483997)

Take that Zune!

Re:Take That (5, Funny)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484017)

The Zune just squirted itself.

(Sorry, sorry)

Re:Take That (3, Informative)

toQDuj (806112) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484099)

But really, this looks like a little more than "just" an ipod. I mean, which ipod comes with a (fully functional) web browser? I assume it also runs on this iphone lean OS X. So it's like an UMPC. No microphone though, not yet (although some ipods have them as acc.), I'm thinking skype here...

B.

Re:Take That (4, Insightful)

caramelcarrot (778148) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484237)

Yeah, it's notable that they've kept the "iPod Classic", as well as this new model, which seems to be aiming for a market between the iPod and WiFi tablets like the Nokia 770. Also the new iPod Nano looks a bit... retarded.

Skype that! (4, Interesting)

EccentricAnomaly (451326) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484379)

I bet Apple plans on keeping VOIP on the IPodtouch as a threat to keep ATT in line on the iPhone.

Re:Take That (1)

ePhil_One (634771) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484075)

They also released a new video enabled iPod Nano [apple.com] .

Cue the battery trolls!!

Re:Take That (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20484159)

What ?!!! And then you are locked into their battery replacement thing ? No way!!

Re:Take That (1)

mastanoodle (810796) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484087)

Well said.

Re:Take That (1)

dashslotter (1093743) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484279)

No thanks, but I will take this [crunchgear.com]

What's that noise? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20484025)

It sounds like the bleating of sheep...

Re:What's that noise? (0, Flamebait)

Deadguy2322 (761832) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484065)

Yes, the sound of the brainless iPod haters is quite annoying, isn't it?

Re:What's that noise? (0, Flamebait)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484225)

While I am more of a Rio Karma kind of guy, my ladyfriend has an 80 GB 5th gen iPod...First, the reasons why I like it. I like the sound quality, as well as the screen quality. It is top notch in these areas.

Now, the reasons I hate it.

First off I DESPISE that I cannot change the volume if I am scrolling through the menus...I also hate that unless I navigate back to the song I am listening to, I have to actually wait for the screen to darken and for it to return to the "player" screen in order to adjust the volume/go back to what is playing. Another issue? The mutilated nipple. Yes, I know that this is a major selling point of the iPod, but compare it to the controls of a Karma or a Carbon and you will see just how frustrating it can be to use. iTunes is quite a thorn...then again, I hate the Rio Karma's manager as well and miss the "drag and drop" of my Carbon...

iPod's may sound good and look good, but I just cannot get passed their interface. It's absolutely horrid.

Re:What's that noise? (1)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484285)

Uh oh, I'm just asking for a grammar nazi on this one...

iPods may sound good and look good, but I just cannot get past their interface.
Fixed.

Re:What's that noise? (1)

Carthag (643047) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484425)

nipple? Anyway, the new iPod has a completely new interface so your complaints are kindof moot.

Re:What's that noise? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20484419)

don't forget the brainless iPod/Apple fanbois.

Both groups are obnoxious.
The knowledgeable on both sides however, are tolerable.

Re:What's that noise? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20484095)

d00d, u r so rite. BAHHHHH! Bleet mac-haters, bleet!

argh (1)

toQDuj (806112) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484033)

Now I have something to want (tm) for christmas.

no e-mail client, but I guess web-based e-mail would work too.

B.

Re:argh (4, Interesting)

psychicsword (1036852) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484089)

I have one thing to say... Gmail

Re:argh (1)

toQDuj (806112) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484165)

weren't there still issues with the iphone and gmail?

Re:argh (2, Informative)

djh101010 (656795) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484359)

weren't there still issues with the iphone and gmail?
Dunno, been using it since week 2 (didn't want to wait in line), haven't seen a problem - what's the nature of the issues that I should be seeing?

Re:argh (1)

Tibor the Hun (143056) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484117)

Now I have something to want (tm) for christmas.

Like what? ..A Zune?

Re:argh (1)

detex (447314) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484131)

this is the main thing I was looking for. I want to get out of my lifedrive but I like the email elements of it. My brother has an iPhone, it is cool but what do I need a phone built into my iPod for?

I like the touch but does anyone know if yuo can add programs like a web browser, word, excel?

Re:argh (1)

toQDuj (806112) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484229)

Well, the browser is already there, word and excel will most likely not ever get on there.

I think we have to take it as it is, and not try to make too much of an otherwise also pretty neat machine.

B.

p.s. I hate this bloody 2 minute limit on the slashdot comments system. Some people just type short messages, mkay?

Here's an idea! (5, Funny)

Rob T Firefly (844560) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484035)

While they're at it, they should build mobile phone capabilities into the thing as well. Then they'd have something!

Re:Here's an idea! (4, Funny)

techpawn (969834) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484149)

An iPod with a phone? That will never sell! Now give me a phone with an iPod and we'll talk

Re:Here's an idea! (0)

mblase (200735) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484199)

While they're at it, they should build mobile phone capabilities into the thing as well. Then they'd have something!

Look, for the last time: the iPod is a dedicated music player. If you want a mobile phone, you're better off buying a device devoted exclusively to phone-like functionality.

Re:Here's an idea! (4, Funny)

UbuntuDupe (970646) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484243)

Yeah ... then that would be an iPod, a phone,

AND A PORTABLE INTERNET COMMUNICATIONS DEVICE! OMG!!!!!!!1111 lim(x->0,sin(x)/x)

(Someone link the Maddox piece)

Why not update the official ipod site? (1)

zymano (581466) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484041)

Checked it and said nothing.

Re:Why not update the official ipod site? (1)

mister.f (1114537) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484071)

It's updated now! I like the look of the iPod Touch, but the new Nano looks awful!

Re:Why not update the official ipod site? (1)

toQDuj (806112) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484301)

I think the new nano looks wrong as well. It used to be tall and sleek, but they apparently sacrificed the monolith design in order to fit a bigger screen. I'll pass judgment as soon as I've had one in my mitts though.

B.

wrong name (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20484051)

The should have called it the "iPod Newton"

4GB iPhone on sale for $299 (5, Informative)

elysian1 (533581) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484057)

For those that are interested, the 4GB iPhone is on sale for $299 while supplies last: http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/A ppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=BC784DCD&nplm=MA501LL/A [apple.com] The price of the 8GB iPhone dropped as well to $399.

Re:4GB iPhone on sale for $299 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20484113)

Alright, everybody start masturbating now!

Re:4GB iPhone on sale for $299 (1)

flanksteak (69032) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484427)

Interesting. If T-Mobile had these I'd be all over it. Love my T-Mobile.

so close.. needs more GB (4, Insightful)

acomj (20611) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484059)

For a device that seems to play video well (and made for it) 8/16 GB doesn't seem like enough. Especially since the "ipod classic" comes in 80/160GB flavors at the same price point( with a small not so good for video screen).

Otherwise it looks nice.

Re:so close.. needs more GB (1)

mblase (200735) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484431)

For a device that seems to play video well (and made for it) 8/16 GB doesn't seem like enough. Especially since the "ipod classic" comes in 80/160GB flavors at the same price point( with a small not so good for video screen).

Agreed. I'm assuming they were going for a price point, because the extra thickness/weight of a hard drive inside an iPod Touch (iTouch? tPod?) would be a small price to pay for increasing storage tenfold. Note that you can now buy a new iPod for about $80, $150, $200, $250, $300, $350, or $400, depending on what you want from it.

Apple's not going to make it easy for Skype to work with an iPod Touch, thanks to the cellphone deal -- or else they'd have done it already with iChat software. OTOH, keep in mind WiFi isn't nearly as ubiquitous as cellphone towers. Yet.

All in all, I consider the iPod Touch to be just as drool-worthy as the iPhone ($200 price drop? Suck it, early adopters), but I still wouldn't buy one until the second or third iteration of the hardware. There's so much the technology is begging to achieve, if only their corporate partners would allow it.

Re:so close.. needs more GB (1)

nine-times (778537) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484493)

Especially since the "ipod classic" comes in 80/160GB flavors at the same price point( with a small not so good for video screen).

Yeah, that's why it's at the same price point... more space, smaller screen, less-advanced hardware. They can make the iPod Touch small, fast, and durable by using Flash memory, which means less storage space.

All I'm saying is, it's a trade-off. They could have put the 160GB disk in there, but it would be bigger, slower, easier to break, and more expensive. And there might also have been greater engineering problems (heat dissipation?).

The bigger story of the day.. (4, Insightful)

jcr (53032) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484069)

iPhone 8GB price drop from $599 to $399.

At that pricing, they could sell 5M units by the end of the year. That's a very aggressive move for market share.

-jcr

Have they started with the subsidizing? (4, Interesting)

hypermanng (155858) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484283)

That truly is a steep drop in price. Have their supply and production costs dropped that much, or are they sacrificing margin in the expectation of recovering it in subscription fees? I tend to suspect the latter, which amounts to subsidized pricing.

Of course, it's also possible that they inflated the initial sale price a little to allow for the steep drop. This would seem like a good way to make a little extra money and reinforce the exclusivity of iPhone ownership, but dropping the price now has to piss off existing customers, who must feel like they've been had.

Re:Have they started with the subsidizing? (2, Informative)

Lally Singh (3427) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484407)

It's always costed them ~$250 to make.

Thus we witness the death of the iPhone... (1, Troll)

EraseEraseMe (167638) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484073)

An iPod Touch, with almost the same feature set as the iPhone, without the stupid Phone part, at a much cheaper price. Tough choice there... Feel sorry for the people who actually bought the iPhone now :/

Re:Thus we witness the death of the iPhone... (1)

Nixoloco (675549) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484265)

It is not really that much cheaper now, actually the 8GB iPhone is the now the same price as the 16GB iPod Touch. They dropped the price of the 8GB iPhone to 399 and are dropping the 4GB iPhone completely.

Re:Thus we witness the death of the iPhone... (1)

EraseEraseMe (167638) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484375)

Plus a contract with AT&T...that's significant ching right there. I'm definitely up for the Touch.

TOUCH ME PLEASE!

reports of the iPhone death are exaggerated (2, Informative)

objekt (232270) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484371)

An iPod Touch, with almost the same feature set as the iPhone, without the stupid Phone part, at a much cheaper price. Tough choice there... Feel sorry for the people who actually bought the iPhone now :/

Not so much cheaper. The iPhone 8Gig is now just $399. The 4Gig is $299 while supplies last.

I am very happy with my iPhone (3, Interesting)

dhamsaic (410174) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484471)

If you are going to feel sorry for iPhone owners, do it because of the price drop today - Apple's way of saying "fuck you" to early adopters.

Don't feel sorry for the million of us that have iPhones, though. They have combined a number of features we have been clamoring for and have done a damn good job of it. Honestly, the phone part of the iPhone is its best part. It is still the best phone I have ever used, even without features I used to rely on - such as the excellent voice dialing of the Motorola E815, Bluetooth synchronization, etc. To be quite honest, the iPod part of the iPhone is where it falls down - not able to manually manage music, not able to create new playlists even though there is a software keyboard, etc. SMS and calling features are pretty awesome.

And with the iPhone dropping to $399... (1)

ferrellcat (691126) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484091)

...it gonna be a tough decision between getting the new iPod Touch, or just swinging for an (unlockable?) iPhone! Either way, I'm dancing around the office like a schoolgirl!!!

Will it be able to run the same 3rd party apps.... (5, Interesting)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484093)

Will it be able to run the same 3rd party apps as the iphone?

AAPL down 3.5% (4, Interesting)

roaddemon (666475) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484097)

Interesting that Apple shares are down 3.5% with this news. Was there a financial disclosure, or were investors expecting something different?

Re:AAPL down 3.5% (1)

everphilski (877346) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484203)

can't keep up the hype forever

Re:AAPL down 3.5% (3, Informative)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484287)

http://www.thestreet.com/s/iphone-shift-bruises-ap ple/newsanalysis/techtelecom/10378004.html?cm_ven= CBSM&cm_cat=FREE&cm_ite=NA [thestreet.com]

"The iPhone buzz is wearing off.

"AT&T (T - Cramer's Take - Stockpickr - Rating) shares dropped 2% Wednesday after Apple (AAPL - Cramer's Take - Stockpickr - Rating) made two moves that took a little more sparkle off this summer's heavily hyped smartphone debut. "

Re:AAPL down 3.5% (5, Informative)

Mononoke (88668) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484381)

Due to pre-anouncement speculation, Apple stock always rises, then fall immediately after the event. Jobs could announce a cure for cancer, and the stock would still fall.

Re:AAPL down 3.5% (4, Informative)

Mattintosh (758112) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484437)

Just some (attempted) profit-taking. Everybody buys AAPL right before an announcement, then sells shortly afterward to get some fast cash. Only the ones that buy several days in advance make anything, but the effect is tried-and-true. It's been happening around every Apple product announcement for the last couple of decades, with varying share prices of course.

meh. (5, Funny)

TMonks (866428) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484111)

So its got wireless, but still less space than a nomad. lame.

Re:meh. (2, Informative)

Constantine XVI (880691) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484313)

According to the WP, the original NOMAD Jukebox had 6GB of memory, and the Jukebox 2 had 10GB.

The iPod is no longer lame.

Boned and cool (5, Insightful)

SilentChris (452960) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484115)

Phatpod iPod Nano - Like your sleek device for workouts? Too bad, go get a Shuffle - BONED
$.99 ringtone on top of $.99 to buy the song (certain songs only) - BONED
Starbucks "integration" - now my iPhone will spend a few extra seconds every time I hook up to a Wifi access point looking for coffee music - BONED
We managed to fit really nice HDs in iPods, but not the new Touch iPod - but you get a few millimeters back - BONED
$599 to $399 price drop in 2 months - EXTREMELY BONED

iTunes Store wireless - kind of cool. Wish they'd do the same thing with TV shows in music (that's what I'd be inclined to buy in an airport somewhere)

All in all, a particularly boneworthy afternoon.

Re:Boned and cool (2, Insightful)

anthonyclark (17109) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484267)

"Ask not for whom the bone bones, it bones for thee!"

- Bender Bending Rodriguez, circa 3000AD

Re:Boned and cool (3, Informative)

chriss (26574) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484321)

Phatpod iPod Nano - Like your sleek device for workouts? Too bad, go get a Shuffle - BONED

Don't get fooled: The new nano isn't that much wider: 52mm vs 40mm for the old version, but it's much shorter: 70mm instead of 90mm. Thickness remains the same with 6.5mm, weight goes up to 49g from 40g. So it looks much fatter, but actually it isn't, it's just slightly bigger.

Re:Boned and cool (1)

Applekid (993327) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484393)

It won't fit in my coin pocket, though. :(

Hopefully there'll be a shakeout of clearance 8GB Nano slims soon and I can nab one before it's gone.

Re:Boned and cool (2, Interesting)

JoeFromPhilly (792856) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484439)

$599 to $399 price drop in 2 months - EXTREMELY BONED

I don't think the type of people who spend $599 on a phone are all that worried about it, though. Not that I'd know...

Perspective (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484453)

Yes I bought an iPhone at launch.

But if you think about it, it's kind of hard to get too upset - I knew what the price was, and willing to pay it for the features offered. Obviously I would have waited had I known, but there's a lot of things in life like that and you can't wait forever for everything.

I think it's hard to really call it "boned" when the rest of the world without iPhones suddenly gets them $200 cheaper. And who knows, Apple may well step up to the plate with some kind of rebate like they did when they dropped the price of Aperture.

The ringtone deal is a little screwy though... I agree it feels odd to pay $.99 for the pleasure of remixing a song you already own and putting it on the device. And the limitation on which songs will work is quite puzzling. Is Apple editing for taste? Perhaps we will all thank them when we see the songs not on the list!

Less space than a Nomad... (1)

Rude Turnip (49495) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484123)

no wire,....ah fsck. OK, we can retire that one now!

On a more serious note, the ringtone news was the only bad news to come out of this. Ringtones can be made in iTunes, but they charge you an additional 99 cents, even if you've already purchased the song. This is beyond assinine, paying for a feature that, by common sense, one would assume is a simple built-in function of the iphone.

Re:Less space than a Nomad... (1)

psychicsword (1036852) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484311)

Ringtones can be made in iTunes, but they charge you an additional 99 cents, even if you've already purchased the song. This is beyond assinine, paying for a feature that, by common sense, one would assume is a simple built-in function of the iphone.
Oh and paying $2-3 for half a song is any better?

Newton Redo (1)

computechnica (171054) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484127)

It seems almost perfect. What other Apps can it run?
The picture shows a Calender Icon. Can it Sync with outlook?
It needs Bluetooth for wireless headphones, but it does not to prevent you from web surfing on a standard phone.

Re:Newton Redo (1)

QuantumRiff (120817) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484299)

I don't own an iPhone, but if I remember correctly, the "Syncing" between apps and your phone are handled by iTunes. I would assume that the iPod Touch would work exactly the same, since they both require iTunes to work correctly on your PC.

Its a PSP (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20484133)

PSP did all these features ages ago and has proper games.

current round-up (5, Informative)

chriss (26574) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484135)

iPod shuttle
just new colors
1GB, $US79

iPod nano
all new with 320*240 2" screen, can play video, coverflow, brighter display
4GB $149, 8GB $US 199
slighly wider, but much shorter, 20% heavier than previous model

iPod classic
like the old iPod, now with 80GB/160GB instead of 30GB/80GB, coverflow
80GB $249, 160GB $US 349

iPod touch
like the iPhone without the phone
slightly smaller and slimmer: iPhone is 45% thicker
8mm thin
WiFi, Safari
8GB $US 299, 16GB $US 399

iPhone
killed the 4GB version
reduced 8GB version from $US599 to $US 399
11.6mm thin

Re:current round-up (4, Funny)

sootman (158191) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484377)

Yes, that's right--a 33% price drop after just two and a half months. Existing iPhone customers can bring their phone to their local Apple retail store and get a white-on-black shirt that says 'Chump' or 'Sucker', your choice.

(I bought a 4 GB refurb model last week for $399. However, that does not qualify me for a shirt.)

Re:current round-up (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20484413)

Rebuttal for Tuttle?

Re:current round-up (1)

mblase (200735) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484491)

iPod Touch: touch screen, WiFi, web browsing, widescreen video, third-party apps (well, theoretically).
versus:
iPod Classic: none of that, but ten times the storage capacity.

Nasty choice you've left people with there, Apple.

Changes the Web (2, Interesting)

Lally Singh (3427) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484137)

Now we'll start seeing a real mobile web.

How many hands is this new iPod going to go into? How many of them will start really doing mobile web browsing as a day-to-day activity? Mobile facebook is digital crack, that you can't leave at your home or in your laptop now.

Man I wish these things had GPS...

$399 iPhone! (1)

Reverberant (303566) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484147)

IMO, the biggest news is the price drop of the 8GB iPhone to $399. At $599, it wasn't even an option for me. At $399, I'm starting to think about it.

I'm happy (okay, satisfied) with my current AT&T wireless service, so "switching" isn't a big problem for me.

I'm disappointed... (2, Insightful)

PJ1216 (1063738) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484153)

They didn't bring the touch screen to the larger capacity "classic" models. I'm curious as to why they're striving towards dropping actual hard drives in favor of flash memory. Some of us like the large capacity, but would also like some of the nifty features that they're bringing in to the flash models. Why can't they drop the "classic" models and just make them touch screen as well?

Re:I'm disappointed... (2, Insightful)

Tumbleweed (3706) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484239)

I'm not sure how useful a touch screen would be with a screen as small as the iPod classic has...maybe if you used a stylus or something...

the first iPod I'm impressed with (0, Troll)

Tumbleweed (3706) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484167)

Now that it's got WiFi. (Plus there's some sort of deal for free access to the iTunes store if you're at a Starbucks).

It can surf the web, not just the iTunes store or YouTube, which is the killer part for me. Basically, a phone-less iPhone that's thinner and with 2x the storage.

Also note the $200 price drop on the 8GB iPhone (now the same price as the 16GB iPod touch).

The only real question is - is the battery user-replaceable, or will we have to go through the class action lawsuit with every portable device Apple puts out?

Re:the first iPod I'm impressed with (1)

Lally Singh (3427) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484479)

The battery will be just as hard to replace as every other thin device apple makes -- it's a space saving decision. But, iPod batteries haven't ever been that hard to replace, either. $25 usually got me a new battery and a cheap plastic tool to do the job.

iPhone batteries require some soldering. The price from 3rd parties is ~$50.

Keyboard display? (1)

Average_Joe_Sixpack (534373) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484175)

Any word on this being released with a pop up keyboard like the iphone? Seems like it would be a killer PDA.

OMG! OMG!! OMG!!! I'm as happy as a little girl (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20484181)



OMG! OMG!! OMG!!! I'm as happy as a little girl!!!!

160 GB (1)

sithkhan (536425) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484195)

IANAAFB (I am not an Apple fanboy), but the 160 GB iPod Classic is sweet, even if the Archos 605 was the first to that memory density. Time to upgrade! I looked at the gallery at Apple.com and there were no pics of the op or bottom of the Classic - is the headphone jack on bottom as the rumors claim?
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But what about battery life? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20484205)

Any word on how long the battery will last in one of these things?

I like the 24h life of my Creative Zen, and I don't need these battery-draining gizmos!

Not impressed with the new Fat Nano (4, Interesting)

bogie (31020) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484215)

Way to ruin the Nano Apple. It was in no way a good idea to bloat the Nano so we could have video on it. Honestly, most of us simply don't want to watch video on a 2" screen. We wanted a cheaper Nano with more memory.

Nice job on the other ipods though. Hacked Ipodtouch + Skype = Goodness? Boy would that put a stick in Apple's craw.

Best comment heard so far regarding the Nano: "Does it do the truffle shuffle?"

Re:Not impressed with the new Fat Nano (3, Informative)

Wesley Felter (138342) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484327)

Hacked Ipodtouch + Skype = Goodness?

What good is Skype if you have no microphone?

Re:Not impressed with the new Fat Nano (5, Funny)

blantonl (784786) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484457)

You give it to your wife.

Overall, not a bad event (4, Insightful)

Clockwurk (577966) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484223)

Apple released some nice products today, but had some disappointing moments as well. First, the new ipod classic looks nice and the bump to 160gb is nice. The other announcements were not as exciting. The new nano looks ugly and didn't get a storage bump. The ipod touch looks very nice, but they should have used the 160gb hdd from the classic instead of flash.

The iPhone news was the biggest let down. For all the talk of Apple "redefining" the cellphone industry, the event today showed that they have no intentions of being anything other than just another gouger. The write-up was wrong. Ringtones aren't $0.99, they are $0.99 for songs that you purchased already from itunes, so they are $1.98 and you can't use music that you got from other sources.

The other nice move was dropping the price on the iphone. I personally think this is a great move, even if it is a slap in the face to all the early adopters (henceforth referred to as "suckers"). It was also a nice fuck-in-the-ass to all the ebayers who are sitting on $200 losses now.

There you go (5, Funny)

Spy Hunter (317220) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484233)

All those people (you know who you are) who kept saying "I'd buy an iPhone without the phone", you better step up.

Awesome! .99 Ringtones! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20484235)

Now I can pay for 30 seconds of a song I already paid for once! Who needs fair use?!

Special Message For Spiderhole Man (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20484247)


Impeach THE White House with the middle finger For President-VICE Richard B. Cheney ( The World's Most Dangerous Person).

P.S. Fuck yourself and your war mongering hoodlums.

PatRIOTically,
K. Trout, M.D.

Now Commander Taco can get an iPOD (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20484269)

"No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame."

Direct competitor to the nokia N800 (4, Interesting)

dgerman (78602) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484273)

Now we have a direct competitor to the N800, and the "Touch" is actually cheaper (at least in Canada) than the N800.

I am not suggesting a "Touch" will have an open platform, ready for hacking. But for the regular folk, who just
want Wifi, and an agenda/calendar, the Touch will be enough. Wifi, in my opinion, is the killer app for those who
don't want a cell phone (yes, we exist) but want an agenda. Others will prefer to continue to use a phone as a phone
and get an ipod for its wifi. The greymarket of iphones being shipped overseas (even before the hacks) are evidence
that there is a market for this.

Also, I own a N800 and an Ipod video, and in my opinion the sound quality of the N800 is lower than the ipod. But that is just my opinion.

--dmg

iTouch = loss of functionality? (4, Insightful)

Creosote (33182) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484317)

I don't understand the impetus behind removing all tactile controls from a portable audio player.

The iPod is already harder to use than many other brands with buttons if you're driving, cycling, jogging, or walking and want to be able to adjust volume or start/stop without looking at the device. With a fair amount of practice you can learn to orient the iPod and manipulate the scroll wheel without looking at it. Is this even theoretically feasible with an iTouch? Or am I going to have to dodge imbeciles swerving all over the road while scrolling through their playlist even more than I do already?

Yes but... (1)

Kildjean (871084) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484329)

It doesnt have email and it doesnt have google maps... :(

for its price id rather buy an iphone...

When? (1)

whisper_jeff (680366) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484331)

Ok, I love the new iPods (160 gig? Sweet!), but whet _I_ would really like to know is when the iPhone is coming to Canada...

A few things (0)

Joe Jay Bee (1151309) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484357)

1) Bastard bastard fuck you Apple, for releasing shinies in the same week that I get approved for a credit card and swear to myself that I will only use it for small purchases in emergencies. You fucking, fucking fuckering fuckers.

2) Apple's servers are melting like butter in a nuclear war.

3) Because of point 2), does anyone know if the new iPod Classic will fit in my Universal Dock, because Apple's now molten servers don't want to say.

Transition (4, Insightful)

Belgand (14099) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484387)

Apple really seems to be in a state of flux right now with their iPod/iPhone lines.

The release of the iPhone went well, but it's really pricey and historically first gen Apple products do little more than set the paradigm and show future promise. By the time we get second and third gen iPhones they'll probably be pretty amazing and a lot cheaper. Just comparing my second gen iPod to the advances made in say, the fourth generation (third introduced major changes, but fourth is where it stabilized design, went color, and started to move more heavily into video) are pretty staggering.

At the same time they're trying to reconcile the popularity of the iPhone with their ongoing iPod line and their iPod Nano line, but without dropping the core functionality of the iPod to such a degree that they lose business (i.e. by cutting the space to make room for the new features). As a result we have a mish-mash of product lines going on right now each of them with flaws.

If anyone out there is interested in purchasing a device now is probably the worst time. Give Apple a year or so and we'll start seeing further consolidation into a more stable product line that better integrates the features of each of their currently available products. Eventually I expect we'll be getting an 80 Gig iPhone with wi-fi and third-party apps, probably in only a year or two based on the way things have been moving so far.

When they stop making changes and start introducing only gradual improvements (like when the video iPod simply came out in a model with more storage) that's the time to go grab it. Based on their past performance though, I'd suggest waiting until then.

Excellent (1)

Jethro (14165) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484397)

Cool. I've been wanting a phoneless iPhone to use as a wifi-enabled web browser. I was considering trying to build one, but since I have no idea how to do that that might've taken a while.

So... (1)

Zak3056 (69287) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484403)

Now that they've got built in wireless (and more space than a Nomad) does that mean Taco no longer thinks that they're lame?

iPhone is selling very bad.. (2, Interesting)

traveller604 (961720) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484405)

There's no way they'd otherwise drop the price of it by 33% less than 70 days after launch.

Ring Tone Rip Off! (1)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484409)

$.99 (song) + $.99 (ringtone conversion of song) = $1.98 = RipOff!!

Now you can pay twice as much for a fraction as much music as you paid for the whole song before. And just how is this Apple making things better for the rest of us?

And I'm surprised Apple hasn't learned about the non-replaceable battery issue yet. Or maybe it's just us consumers who have yet to learn our lesson here, as we line up to buy yet again.

Bluetooth! (2, Insightful)

SteelWheel (769945) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484421)

Now if the new iPhone-without-the-Phone-part had bluetooth, all my problems would be solved..I could tether it to my Verizon Treo 700WX, and have a good, usable web browser, without the crappy speeds from AT&Tingular. So close..

ah! yes! interation ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20484467)

i want a iPHONE shuffle. no screens,
no buttons, voice commands only.
"call bob" and off it goes.
"any new mails?" starts reading them aloud ... weeh, oh wait,
that would be iiiih then =)

dang, were to put the simcard?

general wifi or just for key kiosk apps/sites? (1)

Speare (84249) | more than 7 years ago | (#20484489)

It wasn't clear to me if the iPod Touch (soon to be called the iTouch by everyone and their brother, but I think I'll go with iPoke instead) had full Safari and WiFi for whatever you wanted, or if it was limited to the partner apps and sites?

The other thing that seemed incredibly lame was the idea that it should cost a $0.99 service charge just to turn a four-minute .aac file into a ten-second proprietary file for a ringtone. Pay for MORE bits, I can sorta stomach. Pay for a file conversion that crops out most of the content?

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