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Electric Motorcycle Inventor Crashes at Wired Conference

CowboyNeal posted more than 7 years ago | from the egg-on-face dept.

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not5150 writes "The inventor of the electric 'KillaCycle" motorcycle was taken to the hospital for x-rays after demonstrating the vehicle to reporters. Bill Dube, a government scientist during the day and bike builder at night, attempted a burnout in front of the Los Angeles Convention Center during the Wired NextFest fair. Fueled by the "most powerful" lithium-ion batteries in the world, the bike accelerated uncontrollably into another car. There's a video interview (thankfully before the crash) and footage of Dube crashing."

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Electric Motorcycle + Wired (5, Funny)

deniable (76198) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600343)

My first thought was that he ran over the extension lead.

0-60 in less than a second (2)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600351)

And a top speed of 158mph?

At that rate of acceleration, you'd be at the top speed in less than 3 seconds. Then what? Then the engine gives out? Governor kicks in? The tires blow up?

As for the driver in question. Stupid is as stupid does.

Re:0-60 in less than a second (3, Informative)

Colin Smith (2679) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600373)

It's a drag bike. After you do the quarter mile you slow down & stop.
 

Re:0-60 in less than a second (1)

Barny (103770) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600797)

Would be better over the 1/8th, since it would still be accelerating at the finish then.

If you race over the quarter, you would top out about 2/3 down it.

Wow, a "Drag" bike crashes on "TGVideo"... (4, Funny)

StressGuy (472374) | more than 7 years ago | (#20601475)

I can't believe that got by my works proxy-server.

Re:0-60 in less than a second (1)

Frogbert (589961) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600387)

Well its not like you can only apply the power gradually like a petrol engine. My understanding is that when you turn an electric engine on, that's it, full power full torque.

That thing is fast.

Re:0-60 in less than a second (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20600453)

Well its not like you can only apply the power gradually like a petrol engine.

Of course you can. Do you have an electric fan? Does it always run at full speed? Or is there a little switch that lets you adjust the fan speed?

My understanding is that when you turn an electric engine on, that's it, full power full torque.

No. Electric motors can do that (which is nice in many applications), but they don't have to do that. It depends on how much voltage/current goes to the electric motor, and it's pretty easy to control voltage & current.

Re:0-60 in less than a second (5, Informative)

SharpFang (651121) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600681)

Yes and no.

You can't easily apply gradually more power with high-power engines running on AC.

There are numerous tricks like switching configuration of the coils, using high-power thyrystors etc. You can't just put some resistance because it would be enormously wasteful. Some railway engines use "convert 1-phase AC from the wire to DC, then convert back to three-phase AC of desired frequency" making them actually more efficient than running on 1-phase AC straight from the wire.

But not in this case. The batteries produce DC. They can be switched one at a time to limit voltage(->torque) if it's a DC motor, or the conversion to AC can be freely configured providing frequency (->RPM) just as desired if the motor is AC.

(also note using all kinds of resistors, pots and other "power drains" for limiting current/voltage when such powers are in use, are useless - they would have to dissipate (and waste) enormous amounts of power. Devices that limit the "average" voltage by dutycycle method ( x% of a milisecond on, 100-x% of a milisecond time off => x% power) are much better but not every kind of end-target device can accept this kind of power, plus it generates lots of electromagnetic noise from all the instant on-off action )

Simply put, getting limiting voltage by a half in a 5V 10mA DC configuration is trivial - wasting 0.25W of power is not a problem. In 500V 10A DC configuration is very tricky. Dissipating 2500W is not really an option.

Re:0-60 in less than a second (1)

pe1chl (90186) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600779)

plus it generates lots of electromagnetic noise from all the instant on-off action

Listen to what he explains in the beginnig of the video, about using a Palm Pilot because it is immune to the electromagnetic interference....

Re:0-60 in less than a second (5, Informative)

mpe (36238) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600663)

Well its not like you can only apply the power gradually like a petrol engine. My understanding is that when you turn an electric engine on, that's it, full power full torque.

You can vary the amount of power sent to the motor, it is also possible to have motors with switchable windings to give different torque and speed settings. In the case of a vehicle such as a car or motorbike an electric motor can be connected via the same sort of gearbox you'd use with an internal combustion engine. Indeed the only real difference between a regular motorcycle and an all electric one is that the latter wouldn't need a starter.

Re:0-60 in less than a second (1)

Bromskloss (750445) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600725)

full power full torque

Apart from what have been said already, I'd like to add that power is not the same thing as torque.

Re:0-60 in less than a second (5, Funny)

RuBLed (995686) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600399)

0-60 in less than a second


and vice versa

Re:0-60 in less than a second (4, Funny)

dwater (72834) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600597)

what? less than a second in 0-60??? what does that mean?

Re:0-60 in less than a second (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20600857)

60-0 in less than a second, you see he crashed you fucking moron.

Re:0-60 in less than a second (0)

Hal_Porter (817932) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600897)

I think he's referring to a crash where inventor went from 60-0 in less than a second. The joke being that the bike is designed to accelerate rapidly, but this makes it hard to control it easy to crash. And it's the rapid deceleration that makes a crash harmful.

Incidentally, I suspect for some reason you've also missed the irony of the inventor of the 'Killa'Cycle almost being killed by it.

All of which is grimly amusing. Ha ha ha. But there is a lesson here, and that is to not try to build machines that move quickly. As someone who's never built anything except for a pyramid of 42 empty ramen containers this story fills me with schadenfreude.

Re:0-60 in less than a second (-1, Redundant)

Junior J. Junior III (192702) | more than 7 years ago | (#20601339)

60-0 in less than 1sec.

Re:0-60 in less than a second (1)

Gordonjcp (186804) | more than 7 years ago | (#20601097)

Or as the Ogri t-shirt has it "Malcolm - 0-Casualty in 2.6 seconds"

Re:0-60 in less than a second (4, Insightful)

somersault (912633) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600455)

Remember aerodynamics too, 60-120 won't be as fast as 0-60 even with the same torque being applied. It does sounds awesome though, even if the inventor can't ride it

Re:0-60 in less than a second (3, Insightful)

Jeek Elemental (976426) | more than 7 years ago | (#20601279)

if its a 3 phase short circuit engine, which is likely, the torque goes down quick as rpm goes up. When rpm=0 its basically a short circuit condition, it will pull whatever power it can get (and handle for a short period of time).

Re:0-60 in less than a second (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20600537)

You're erroneously assuming a constant acceleration: real-world dragstrip acceleration-time plots are anything but linear.

As to the time, 0-60 in 1 second is standard for drag cars or bikes running in the 7s on the quarter mile.

1/4 mile times like that are pretty good for an electric vehicle though.

some pictures (4, Informative)

juventasone (517959) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600359)

While the slashdot effect kills the video, there's some pictures and comments at gizmodo [gizmodo.com]

Re:some pictures (1)

nrgy (835451) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600393)

I love the guy standing over him with the camera in that link [gizmodo.com] of yours.

I wonder is he thinking to himself... "What a dumbass this will get me more money then my Paris Hilton upskirt shot from last week"

Re:some pictures (1, Offtopic)

BronsCon (927697) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600879)

That was Britney, not Paris.

Re:some pictures (1, Insightful)

Oktober Sunset (838224) | more than 7 years ago | (#20601497)

same slut, different name.

More seriously, though (5, Insightful)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600361)

As a professional stuntman, I can't stress enough how dangerous it is to perform these kinds of antics without appropriate training, preparation, and room.

The fact that he hit a parked minivan tells me quite a bit about the kinds of stupid risks he was taking. He's lucky that he's the only one that got hurt.

Re:More seriously, though (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20600415)

I'm with you on this; if you read the comments on the linked article, under the heading, "No need for so much drama" he states that he "didn't intend the bike to move". I guess he doesn't use safety equipment in his lab since he doesn't "intend things to go wrong". I think this is why these things are called accidents?

Re:More seriously, though (0, Redundant)

KGIII (973947) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600425)

I read the article and the posts and I can say that it is my opinion that this guy is a menace to society. If he'd just been going a bit faster he could have cleaned out the gene pool a bit.

Re:More seriously, though (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20600607)

>>>I read the article and the posts and I can say that it is my opinion that this guy is a menace to society. If he'd just been going a bit faster he could have cleaned out the gene pool a bit.

okay grandma

Re:More seriously, though (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20600423)

Performing burnouts on a motorcycle is not difficult. There's a little something called a clutch that makes it pretty safe. In the video you can hear him (or someone) say 'it actually stuck on', which I assume means he couldn't cut the power to the wheel.

In fact, the only stupid risk he took was not wearing a helmet. What sort of a dick rides a bike without a helmet? (Hint: 'a freedom loving dick' is not an acceptable answer.)

Re:More seriously, though (4, Insightful)

FireFury03 (653718) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600525)

There's a little something called a clutch that makes it pretty safe.

I suspect, being electric, this wouldn't have a clutch.

In fact, the only stupid risk he took was not wearing a helmet. What sort of a dick rides a bike without a helmet?

To be fair, he was attempting a burnout - going over the handlebars at high speed isn't usually a big hazard when you're stationary with the back wheel spinning.

Re:More seriously, though (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20600639)

How the hell does the vehicle being eletric preclude it from having a clutch?

Re:More seriously, though (2, Insightful)

WindowsIsForArseWipe (990338) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600665)

A cluch is unnecessary in most electric vechicles and in most cases it is a waste in that it is extra weight asnd also that it would prevent regenerative breaking. You could put a clutch on an electric vechicle but you get penalised for it.

Re:More seriously, though (4, Informative)

pyat (303115) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600861)

You can have slip within the electric motor, so it can behave like an electromagnetic clutch. This can be pretty handy:

On diesel railway locomotives, they have a diesel engine that generates electricity, which is then used to power electric motors on the wheels. One reason for this arrangement is that using electric motors like this means you don't need a clutch and it's more compact than a fully mechanical transmission for such huge power would be.

Re:More seriously, though (4, Funny)

heinousjay (683506) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600571)

A dick who makes his own decisions and deals with the consequences.

I'm aware that's a synonym for freedom loving.

Re:More seriously, though (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20601337)

A dick who makes his own decisions and deals with the consequences.

And who drives up insurance costs for the rest of the riders who do wear helmets.

Re:More seriously, though (1)

Nexcis (962706) | more than 7 years ago | (#20601413)

Look at was he was doing the burnout on. CONCRETE, sidewalk concrete at that. Not a very smart move at all, even with the soapy water. Concrete + Burnout + Scientist Showing Off = Egg On Your Face

Re:More seriously, though (1)

somersault (912633) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600497)

Yep, when cars warm up their tyres before races don't they normally do it on a little wet patch where they have less grip? The tires on that bike are massive, so and the ground was dry.. he was being ever so slightly stupid......... so lucky to be alive!

Re:More seriously, though (2, Insightful)

SmokeyTheBalrog (996551) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600839)

There was wet patch, but he rolled off it when he made his first mistake.

Re:More seriously, though (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20600505)

Was it parked? I though the photo caption said it pulled out in front of him. If it had been a normal engine then they may have heard him coming and not pulled out...

Re:More seriously, though (1)

mpe (36238) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600573)

As a professional stuntman, I can't stress enough how dangerous it is to perform these kinds of antics without appropriate training, preparation, and room.

Not only do the professionals put a lot of effort ensuring that things are a safe as possible for anyone involved they also have emergency equiptment and crew there for the unlikely event of something going wrong.

Without a helmet!!! (2, Insightful)

hummassa (157160) | more than 7 years ago | (#20601039)

Nothing else should be said. I loved this thing, but I wouldn't get _near_ a bike that makes 0-60 in less then a second without a reinforced helmet and heavily padded/armored clothes.

Re:More seriously, though (1)

Jaknet (944488) | more than 7 years ago | (#20601457)

Just watched the video and he says that he is the builder/designer, but he is not the rider of it. I think he said this was going to be his first time.

All I can think is the guy who normally rides it must be well pissed watching the "boss" write it off. I know I would be.

Re:More seriously, though (1)

PadRacerExtreme (1006033) | more than 7 years ago | (#20601531)

As a professional stuntman, I can't stress enough how dangerous it is to perform these kinds of antics without appropriate training, preparation, and room.
He even says in the video that he normally isn't the driver. And then he tries this.....

KillaCycle? (5, Funny)

kooky45 (785515) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600367)

Does what it says on the tin.

Finally (3, Funny)

sc0ob5 (836562) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600413)

A product that can actually live up to it's name.

Re:Finally (1)

Yvanhoe (564877) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600695)

Yeah, it may be funny, but the very fact that this event occurred gives him media coverage. Probably unintended side effect, but well deserved! I, for one, had never heard of the Killacycle. This is seriously cool stuff !

Idiot (5, Insightful)

infonick (679715) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600421)

As a scientist, he should have known better than to not wear a helmet....

Re:Idiot (1)

Attaturk (695988) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600493)

As a scientist, he should have known better than to not wear a helmet....
As a fucking primate he should have known better than to not wear a helmet...
That being said, good luck to the guy. Balls, money and heart where his mouth is and all that.

Re:Idiot (4, Funny)

clickety6 (141178) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600589)

Balls... and heart where his mouth is and all that.

Thankfully it wasn't that bad a crash ! :-)

Re:Idiot (5, Funny)

mpe (36238) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600545)

As a scientist, he should have known better than to not wear a helmet....

Calling the thing "KillaCycle" probably wasn't the smartest of ideas either. It sounds more like the title of a low budget horror movie...

Re:Idiot (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20600785)

Not only that, the guy wasnt even wearing *any* type of protective motorcycle gear. Frankly, ending up in hospital seems like the most likely outcome of that little stunt. Hopefully he will recover completely, but he really has himself to blame most of all.

Re:Idiot (1)

Atario (673917) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600789)

But, being a scientist, I bet he learns from the experience. Like: when trying to burn out, keep that front brake pulled, dammit.

Scientist are just you and me. (1)

Shivetya (243324) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600827)

Too many of them think "it won't happen to me" and the end result is a visit to the hospital or worse. The number of motorcycle accidents that are single vehicle accidents is astounding.

I know high level professionals who as soon as crossing the state border take their helmets off. Some ride around locally with party helmets (the fake looking ones or just skull caps). After all "THEY" are entitled to do as they see and "THEY" are not going to get hurt and "THEY" are too skillful to need it and "THEY" are too inconvienced.

"THEY" can end up in the paper the next day too. Like the article recently about the girl killed riding a motorcycle for fun in a parking lot, she fell over and hit her head on a car. Or the owner of a Florida BMW motorcycle shop who was riding a bike in his own parking lot and crashed.

If an activity has risks you can reduce or eliminate its best to do so because you cannot control all the variables. Yet ego prevails over intelligence way too often.

Re:Scientist are just you and me. (1)

daem0n1x (748565) | more than 7 years ago | (#20601123)

I know a highly skilled motorcyclist who forgot to take his padlock from the rear wheel and fell to the left side when trying to leave the parking spot. Please note that he fell at 0 Km/h velocity.

He had all the protections in place, helmet, leather jacket and leather gloves, but his left elbow hit his left abdomen causing the spleen to rupture. He didn't notice anything, but half an hour later he started feeling incapacitating pain and passed out. He spent two weeks in the hospital and lots of time at home, recovering. The doctors said he nearly died.

This quite stupid incident makes you have respect for bykes. I always wear my safety gear and avoid having the stupid behavior I observe in many motorcyclists around here.

Re:Idiot (1)

beaviz (314065) | more than 7 years ago | (#20601037)

As a scientist, he should have known better than to not wear a helmet....
Scientists are the worst. They are always focused on the "important" work or experiment, a helmet was not in any way important to this experiment. Therefore, he left it out of the equation.

Re:Idiot (1)

Anissian (1099407) | more than 7 years ago | (#20601161)

I would even add that the fact that this guy is a scientist is just making him look more "unprofessional" to my eyes. Regardless of his profession, the moment someone rides a bike -- specially "experimental" bikes -- the helmet is a MUST, like a safety belt while driving a car. It has been proved beyond doubt that the use of helmets and safety belts *saves lifes*. Governments are spending thousands of euros in campaigns and ads. Yet, people are still driving without. On top of that, if you appear on a TV show, give example. Lots of teenagers may be looking, and it does no make you look cooler (pet peeve o'mine)

Is it just me? (2, Funny)

spazmonkey (920425) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600431)

Is it just me, or did everyone get the motorcycle clip from "PeeWee's Great Adventure" stuck in their heads upon reading that description?

Re: Is it just me? (1)

xarak (458209) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600741)


Just you.

Thankfully.

Just needed stiches (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20600473)

from the comments on the linked page:

I wasn't wearing a helment, because we did not intend the bike to even move!

We were spinning the tire in soapy water. The tire unexpectantly gripped, (water ran out?) and launched the bike. I couldn't get it shut down as quickly as I would have liked. I had to release the front brake to fully untwist the throttle. I then managed to slow it down to about 20 mph.

The positive message here is that when we crunched the battery pack, NOTHING happened. No smoke. No flames. Not even sparks. Not only are these cells more powerful, they are are the safest possible for automobiles.

Also, there was NO ONE in front of the bike or in the possible trajectory of the bike.

Bill Dube

Re:Just needed stiches (3, Funny)

jd (1658) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600631)

No sparks? No flames? Dudew, you should have added some pyros to the bike, even if you never intended it to move, to give people something to photograph. Same reason early computers were dressed in lights. Sheesh, talk about a missed opporutinity.

Re:Just needed stiches (0, Flamebait)

McFadden (809368) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600677)

Yeah... who'd expect a tire spinning at thousands of revs per minute to cause a small patch of water to evaporate? A scientist who's never heard of friction?

Best wishes, but come on buddy, common sense (5, Insightful)

fantomas (94850) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600689)

Best wishes, I hope you get better soon.

But come on buddy, a little common sense, and remember you're a role model. *You* might have known what you're doing but lots of idiot teenagers would have been watching the footage of you doing this gig and other ones similar to it. They might take home the message that it's ok not to wear helmet and body armour. The fact that something did go wrong showed that you weren't completely in control.

Please, even if you're happy taking those risks, wear a helmet and body protection. You wouldn't use DIY power tools at home without safety gear so why take risks with your superbike? You seem like a nice guy, stick around for a bit longer so you can pick up your Darwin award and don't encourage idiot teenagers (or adults) to think its ok to do burns on stationary bikes without protection. You've just proved that it's not safe...

Re:Best wishes, but come on buddy, common sense (4, Funny)

Dr. Cody (554864) | more than 7 years ago | (#20601121)

But come on buddy, a little common sense, and remember you're a role model. *You* might have known what you're doing but lots of idiot teenagers would have been watching the footage of you doing this gig and other ones similar to it. They might take home the message that it's ok not to wear helmet and body armour. The fact that something did go wrong showed that you weren't completely in control.

Won't somebody PLEASE think of the CHILDREN!!!???

Re:Best wishes, but come on buddy, common sense (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20601187)

Won't somebody ELSE please think of the CHILDREN!!!???
There - fixed that for ya ...

Re:Best wishes, but come on buddy, common sense (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20601199)

I'm not sure what qualifies more for a darwin, a guy on a malfunctioning bike or a mouthy slashdot nerd talking trash to a biker.

Re:Best wishes, but come on buddy, common sense (1)

frog51 (51816) | more than 7 years ago | (#20601517)

erm....of course I use power tools at home without safety gear! Wouldn't be half as much fun otherwise. Jeez.

Re:Just needed stiches (1)

fprintf (82740) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600727)

That thing is wickedly fast! Holy smokes, you were going very very quickly in just a few frames of that video. I am thankful you did not get seriously hurt.

Hope you get better soon, and never mind the few extra bucks to fix the bike/smashed car on top of the $40k already spent!

Re:Just needed stiches (2, Insightful)

Woy (606550) | more than 7 years ago | (#20601245)

You can't both claim there was no one in the possible trajectory as a safety measure and wear no helmet. You either considered the bike could move or not.
Cool bike, man!

In other news (4, Funny)

iamacat (583406) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600487)

The motorcyclist was using Sony cells and also suffered a bad burn to the groin.

Free press? (5, Insightful)

Alystair (617164) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600501)

This is actually very good free press for them, hope he recovers quick. Media loves accidents.

GLAYVIN! (4, Funny)

Mad Martigan (166976) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600511)

That's why Professor Frink's motorcycle flies through the air [snpp.com] -- no cars to hit.

-----

Frink tests his new flying motorcycle.

Frink: Hello, son. You want to try the flying motorcycle I just invented?
Bart: No time.
Frink: Okay.

Later, Bart loses his skateboard in the wet cement.

Bart: I could sure use that flying motorcycle now.

Frink flies by.

Frink: You had your chance. Whoa-hai.

-----

Quote of the Video (5, Funny)

adamkennedy (121032) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600513)

"I'm normally the crew chief and the owner, I don't ride it."

I was already going "oh dear..."

Killa-Minivan (3, Insightful)

Nymz (905908) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600529)

It doesn't matter if it'a KillaCycle, motorcycle, bicycle, or even a small car, because none of them are safe as long as they share the road with vehicles that are relatively so much more massive. If we want to realistically promote more efficient modes of transportation, then we should work to make the current hostile enviroments into safer ones.

Before you flame, I'm aware he wasn't wearing a helmet, was showing off with a burn out, was riding an prototype vehicle, and that the minivan was a parked. But instead of addressing the rare occurance this incident was, I wanted to address a common occurance, and provide a solution that we could actually take steps toward achieving.

Re:Killa-Minivan (2, Insightful)

Omnifarious (11933) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600653)

I agree pretty strongly with you on this. From what I've read massive vehicles aren't any safer for the people riding in them, and a lot more dangerous for everybody else. Not only that, but a lot of people who drive them drive them because they think they're safer, then drive like idiots because they think they can't get hurt. Also, many people who get them are just generally really insecure about their ability to drive which will make them bad drivers even if they don't feel invulnerable.

Re:Killa-Minivan (1)

jamesh (87723) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600985)

It doesn't matter if it'a KillaCycle, motorcycle, bicycle, or even a small car, because none of them are safe as long as they share the road with other drivers who talk on cell phones while driving. If we want to realistically promote more efficient modes of transportation, then we should work to make the current hostile enviroments into safer ones.

Before you flame, I'm aware he wasn't talking on a cell phone. But instead of addressing the rare occurance this incident was, I wanted to address a common occurance, and provide a solution that we could actually take steps toward achieving.

Look at me! I can make off topic posts to push an agenda too :p

Then what do you think the topic is? (1)

Nymz (905908) | more than 7 years ago | (#20601053)

Look at me! I can make off topic posts to push an agenda too :p
Why do you think innovations are being sought with these new top-of-the-line batteries? Why do you think people are trying to promote their usage and safe design in a motorcycle? There is a lot of interest in alternate fuels, and more efficient means of transportation. Please don't think the topic is to make fun of the designer crashing :p

In the video he says (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20600563)

In the video, as he's lying on the ground after the collision, he says: "it stuck on."

It looks like he's on concrete doing the burnout. As a drag racing fan I can tell you that concrete is much better (than asphalt) for traction, as Dube found out.

Drag strips (usually) have a big sand pit and nets at the far end in case brakes and parachutes don't work. A minivan is a dubious runaway collector.

Re:In the video he says (1)

Farmer Tim (530755) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600633)

A minivan is a dubious runaway collector.

Hey, whatever works...

Other Videos (5, Informative)

gbickford (652870) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600591)

Here is a mirror of video of the crash: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2984983237984172859 [google.com] .

There are a lot of videos of the thing in action at http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=KillaCycle [google.com] . The thing is clearly [google.com] not [google.com] a scooter [google.com]

It's really a bummer that he decided not to wear a helmet.

Re:Other Videos (2, Informative)

neochubbz (937091) | more than 7 years ago | (#20601437)

FYI, the crash starts at about 3:00 into the video.

well... (1)

dwater (72834) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600605)

*I*, for one, want one!

Re:well... (1)

ady1 (873490) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600687)

In Soviet Russia, motorcycle crashes you.

Oh wait!

Re:well... (1)

big ben bullet (771673) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600755)

man... do i want one...

Too bad the batteries are sooo big, it's a hell of a drag bike but i don't think it's a very agile circuit runner.

Still, this gets my hopes back up. Up until now I could've never imagined a blazing fast motorcycle that runs on electricity. By the time I hit my mid-life crisis I hope they've marketed some of these ;-)

Re:well... (1)

dwater (72834) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600915)

>By the time I hit my mid-life crisis I hope they've marketed some of these ;-)

yeah, and banned those stupid cars too! (or was it a van?)

Electric has grown up. (5, Funny)

Futselaar (1103511) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600617)

For a while, we have had electric cars and motorcycles that could go fast and reasonably far. Being able to crash them stupidly was probably the final thing needed to make them a success. And now that electric bikes have grown up to this level, linux on the desktop cannot be far off, can it?

Re:Electric has grown up. (1)

arivanov (12034) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600691)

Both had happened before.

The first cars to break through the 100km/h barrier as well as the first cars to break through the 100mph barrier were electric. They also crashed nicely on quite a few occasions. If it was not for the first world war which rapidly accelerated petrol engine development and allowed it to overtake the electric and steam competition we would have been all riding in electric vehicles today.

Last words as he left for the hospital (-1, Redundant)

edwardpickman (965122) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600619)

"Thank God I didn't go with the Sony batteries."

Last words as he went for the burnout (1)

srussia (884021) | more than 7 years ago | (#20601221)

"Hey guys, watch this!"

hmm. (2, Interesting)

apodyopsis (1048476) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600637)

sure as hell emphasizes the difference between an inventor, scientist and engineer...

..and a professional stunt man who will ensure adequate clearance zones, safety margins, appropriate safety gear and at least apply a basic safety audit before carrying out a start stop on such a potentially powerful bike.

I'm still waiting for my live action Akira bike
http://www.burningart.com/meico/moto/akira/ [burningart.com]
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fplusd.itmedia.co.jp%2Flifestyle%2Farticles%2F0404%2F02%2Fnews040.html&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8 [google.com]
http://negatendo.net/kmc/en_neo_fukuoka.htm [negatendo.net]
..that would be my number one fantasy vehicle from a movie. (or maybe a land speeder :-).

And the eye candy who was hired to sit on the bike was quite nice. Sorry that's amazingly un-PC of me and I apologize. :-(

Re:hmm. (1)

tiananmen tank man (979067) | more than 7 years ago | (#20601477)

No it does not emphasize the difference between an inventor, scientist and engineer. He did not demonstrate any critical thinking during the video clip. He says the bike can do 0-60mph in 0.9 seconds. With that much power, he was just not thinking about what he was doing. He was more interested in showing off and listing sponsors

May I be the first to..... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20600671)

offer words of encouragement to our latest Darwin hopeful. There's always next year. If electric motors can't get the job done think...rocket engine.

Yeah right (1)

NeoManyon (953080) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600763)

I see so many comments about this guy being stupid.... and no one on slashdot has EVER done anything stupid, yeah right.

I'm just impressed with his machine.

Too powerful? (1)

jhol13 (1087781) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600769)

Maybe next time he'll try a little less powerful batteries ...

But... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20600777)

What I want to know is, how did he become electric?

Phenominal (1)

Onlyodin (1137597) | more than 7 years ago | (#20600983)

0 to 60 miles an hour in .97 of a second! holy moly! impressive, but the bike looks like a rail engine if you ask me.

That happens when... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#20601019)

...you work your ass off and get too excited about your 15 minutes of fame.

I'm sure if he had taken time to think this through instead of being totally excited about presenting his baby on TV he wouldn't have taken this risk.

Shit happens.

New tag (1)

ddrichardson (869910) | more than 7 years ago | (#20601025)

We need a +1 Hoist by your own petard.

Success, Not Failure... (-1, Redundant)

Maljin Jolt (746064) | more than 7 years ago | (#20601299)

A spectacular crash, this is exactly something what I would expect from 'KillaCycle'.
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