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Company Demos Personal Aircraft, Future Jetpack

Zonk posted more than 6 years ago | from the biggest-toybox-ever dept.

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coondoggie writes "Earlier this week researchers with the company ESG Elektroniksystem in Germany demonstrated a form of 'strap-on jet wing' that lets a user truly fly through the air. The system, called Gryphon, consists of a six-foot wing and hand-held rotary controls for the rudder. The pilot has several different instruments available to him, including onboard oxygen and helmet that features a heads-up display. 'Researchers say the final version of the flying wing will contain an electronic system that will take care of some of the steering for the pilot which today can be a little tricky, researchers say. The company also plans to add small jets to the wing making it a true jetpack in the future.'"

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yum (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20611735)

A few years ago, while browsing around the library downtown, I
had to take a piss. As I entered the john a big beautiful all-American
football hero type, about twenty-five, came out of one of the booths.
I stood at the urinal looking at him out of the corner of my eye as he
washed his hands. He didn't once look at me. He was "straight" and
married - and in any case I was sure I wouldn't have a chance with
him.

As soon as he left I darted into the booth he'd vacated,
hoping there might be a lingering smell of shit and even a seat still
warm from his sturdy young ass. I found not only the smell but the
shit itself. He'd forgotten to flush. And what a treasure he had left
behind. Three or four beautiful specimens floated in the bowl. It
apparently had been a fairly dry, constipated shit, for all were fat,
stiff, and ruggedly textured. The real prize was a great feast of turd
- a nine inch gastrointestinal triumph as thick as a man's wrist.

I knelt before the bowl, inhaling the rich brown fragrance and
wondered if I should obey the impulse building up inside me. I'd
always been a heavy rimmer and had lapped up more than one little
clump of shit, but that had been just an inevitable part of eating ass
and not an end in itself. Of course I'd had jerk-off fantasies of
devouring great loads of it (what rimmer hasn't), but I had never done
it. Now, here I was, confronted with the most beautiful five-pound
turd I'd ever feasted my eyes on, a sausage fit to star in any fantasy
and one I knew to have been hatched from the asshole of the world's
handsomest young stud.

Why not? I plucked it from the bowl, holding it with both
hands to keep it from breaking. I lifted it to my nose. It smelled
like rich, ripe limburger (horrid, but thrilling), yet had the
consistency of cheddar. What is cheese anyway but milk turning to shit
without the benefit of a digestive tract?

I gave it a lick and found that it tasted better then it
smelled. I've found since then that shit nearly almost does.

I hesitated no longer. I shoved the fucking thing as far into
my mouth as I could get it and sucked on it like a big brown cock,
beating my meat like a madman. I wanted to completely engulf it and
bit off a large chunk, flooding my mouth with the intense, bittersweet
flavor. To my delight I found that while the water in the bowl had
chilled the outside of the turd, it was still warm inside. As I chewed
I discovered that it was filled with hard little bits of something I
soon identified as peanuts. He hadn't chewed them carefully and they'd
passed through his body virtually unchanged. I ate it greedily,
sending lump after peanutty lump sliding scratchily down my throat. My
only regret was the donor of this feast wasn't there to wash it down
with his piss.

I soon reached a terrific climax. I caught my cum in the
cupped palm of my hand and drank it down. Believe me, there is no more
delightful combination of flavors than the hot sweetness of cum with
the rich bitterness of shit.

Afterwards I was sorry that I hadn't made it last longer. But
then I realized that I still had a lot of fun in store for me. There
was still a clutch of virile turds left in the bowl. I tenderly fished
them out, rolled them into my handkerchief, and stashed them in my
briefcase. In the week to come I found all kinds of ways to eat the
shit without bolting it right down. Once eaten it's gone forever
unless you want to filch it third hand out of your own asshole. Not an
unreasonable recourse in moments of desperation or simple boredom.

I stored the turds in the refrigerator when I was not using
them but within a week they were all gone. The last one I held in my
mouth without chewing, letting it slowly dissolve. I had liquid shit
trickling down my throat for nearly four hours. I must have had six
orgasms in the process.

I often think of that lovely young guy dropping solid gold out
of his sweet, pink asshole every day, never knowing what joy it could,
and at least once did, bring to a grateful shiteater.

OMG (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20611789)

lol lol lol

Wait, is he serious?

omg omg omg

Yeppers... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20611985)

I was serious. It's just another kind of lifestyle. Love it; enjoy it.

Re:Yeppers... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20612069)

Allah will punish them.

where's my flying car (-1, Offtopic)

User 956 (568564) | more than 6 years ago | (#20611759)

Earlier this week researchers with the company ESG Elektroniksystem in Germany demonstrated a form of 'strap-on jet wing' that lets a user truly fly through the air.

That's great, but where's my flying car? [youtube.com]

Re:where's my flying car (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20612009)

Wonder how it compares to the ACME Rocket that Wile E. Coyote tried to use.

Re:where's my flying car (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20612671)

...the article lost me right after "strap-on" ;)

Re:where's my flying car (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20613097)

That's great, but where's my flying car?
Next time remember where you parked.

Re:where's my flying car (2, Interesting)

Jane Q. Public (1010737) | more than 6 years ago | (#20613123)

You will not see people commuting in "flying cars" until there is fully automatic flight and traffic control. To do otherwise would be utter mayhem. Only recently -- with cell phones and their towers -- have we established that we actually have the technology to build such an automated traffic-control network. And you had better believe that it will be some years before it is built, because you will have to convince someone that they can make a profit on it.

fish =( (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20611765)

My girlfriends pussy smells like fish. Does anybody know how I can tell her politely that I don't want to go down there? She doesn't even shave the dam thing.

Re:fish =( (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20611855)

For advice like this, you might want to try a site where people actually have girlfriends.

Re:fish =( (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20612427)

Yeah, he should try 4chan.

Remember kiddies, this is not a real jet pack (5, Informative)

cmowire (254489) | more than 6 years ago | (#20611843)

If you read the article, you see that there's not an engine in the thing right now.

This is a short and unwieldy wing that straps on your back and lets you fly farther from where you got dropped out of an airplane. You still need a parachute to land. You still need a real aircraft to lift you up for you to start your flight.

Not nearly as impressive as the headline seems to indicate.

Re:Remember kiddies, this is not a real jet pack (5, Funny)

MrDoh1 (906953) | more than 6 years ago | (#20611869)

Way to burst everyone's bubble by reading the article.

Re:Remember kiddies, this is not a real jet pack (3, Interesting)

rts008 (812749) | more than 6 years ago | (#20613535)

See this link in TFA to help keep your bubble from completely bursting.http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,428830,00.html [spiegel.de]

I know it goes against /. rules to RTFA, much less check out links in TFA, but in this case I did.

Disclaimer: I was a paratrooper, and this intrigued me...I wish I could be a part of bringing this about, but my teflon kneecaps (from the last jump I ever made...#433) dissuade me from trying to keep up with the young ones now.

I wish them all of the success in the world for this, military AND civilian applications!
Fsck hang gliding, parasailing, etc...jump out of a C-130 at 20,000 ft. with a Gryphon and an O2 bottle and CRUISE like superman for more than a few very short minutes before having to 'pop the chute' and worry about the ground!

Pedants need not reply...If you haven't went HALO, you have no concept of WTF is going on here!
The only possible better physical experience than HALO, is HALO with sex...but there is that whole windchill/cold temp thing to deal with!

Re:Remember kiddies, this is not a real jet pack (2, Funny)

phoenixwade (997892) | more than 6 years ago | (#20615345)

Pedants need not reply...If you haven't went HALO, you have no concept of WTF is going on here! The only possible better physical experience than HALO, is HALO with sex...but there is that whole windchill/cold temp thing to deal with!
The Master Chief says there are Two things better than HALO - and one of them is going to be released next week.

--Wade

Re:Remember kiddies, this is not a real jet pack (0, Flamebait)

Viol8 (599362) | more than 6 years ago | (#20617985)

"The only possible better physical experience than HALO, is HALO with sex...but there is that whole windchill/cold temp thing to deal with!"

I guess being a paratrooper you never got much time for good sex then. Unless you good ole boys packed the vaseline for those "quiet" nights.

Re:Remember kiddies, this is not a real jet pack (1)

CRC'99 (96526) | more than 6 years ago | (#20612063)

If you read the article, you see that there's not an engine in the thing right now.

You just need to use your own bi-carb soda and vinegar solution. The forums are coming soon where you can discuss optimal thrust ratios.

Re:Remember kiddies, this is not a real jet pack (1)

nmb3000 (741169) | more than 6 years ago | (#20612099)

If you read the article, you see that there's not an engine in the thing right now.

You are correct, it appears to be just a more technical (and perhaps better) form of the "Flying Squirrel" suit [youtube.com] . I'm not sure how that suit would work in high-altitude drops or how it compares for surface area. Also, keeping your arms and legs spread like that over a long fall is probably pretty tiring, but being able to pull them in and drop faster might be useful.

Looks fun in any case.

this is not a real jet pack, yet. (1)

Erris (531066) | more than 6 years ago | (#20612455)

It might be with the addition of a rocket:

Skywalker Jets, has devised a rocket pack that weighs about 90 pounds and can propel a 200 pound pilot around the air for what is likely the most invigorating [last] 5 minutes of their life.

The strong part above is mine. Nothing's perfect.

Wingsuit (1)

Ranzear (1082021) | more than 6 years ago | (#20613901)

My question is if it outperforms Wingsuits already in use. The glide ratio can't be much better with the added weight.

Re:Wingsuit (1)

the_lesser_gatsby (449262) | more than 6 years ago | (#20615925)

The glide ratio (aka lift-to-drag ratio) doesn't depend on weight. Adding weight increases the speed at which a glider achieves it best glide ratio (although the ratio stays the same), hence the use of water ballast in racing sailplanes.

By the look of it it probably does have a better glide ratio than wingsuits. But still way under 10:1.

Re:Remember kiddies, this is not a real jet pack (2, Interesting)

jeti (105266) | more than 6 years ago | (#20613961)

However, it's worth to follow the link to Yves Rossy [jet-man.com] .
He has a working civilian version with engines strong enough for ascending.

Re:Remember kiddies, this is not a real jet pack (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20614011)

This is the real deal:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jet-man&search=Search [youtube.com]

This is more "conventional":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gcurwcPs3U [youtube.com]

Other people playing in a boring way:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THEcWrznicY [youtube.com]

And this is just for fun, with model rockets:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mjUZEsduIE [youtube.com]

Re:Remember kiddies, this is not a real jet pack (1)

LordSnooty (853791) | more than 6 years ago | (#20615239)

Thank you. *clicks Back*

That's not flying! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20615435)

That's falling with style!

Re:Remember kiddies, this is not a real jet pack (1)

iNetRunner (613289) | more than 6 years ago | (#20616327)

Well, there is this Finn [youtube.com] with a Wingsuit and rocket boots. =) Obvious the very limited amount of fuel he had didn't make it very spectacular, I suppose. (vs. e.g. Jet-Man)

Daedalus (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20611873)

When will they learn.

No, Icarus (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20613897)

Actually, Daedalus made it, his son Icarus was the foolish one who crashed after getting too close to the sun.

Re:Daedalus (1)

master_p (608214) | more than 6 years ago | (#20615643)

Q, is that you? :-)

We had those in the '80s (4, Funny)

Hamsterdan (815291) | more than 6 years ago | (#20611893)

Well, at least GI Joe and Cobra had them :)

This sounds like... (5, Funny)

kaan (88626) | more than 6 years ago | (#20611903)

... an advanced, high-tech way to die. Seriously, a jet-powered vehicle where the frontmost thing is your head? At 135mph?

A sickening thud. Re:This sounds like... (1)

Erris (531066) | more than 6 years ago | (#20612471)

a jet-powered vehicle where the frontmost thing is your head? At 135mph?

At that speed, I don't think heads first or tail first matters.

Re:This sounds like... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20612709)

Why not?! People do something similarly suicidal all the time balancing precariously on two wheels.

Hit a truck, hit the ground. One's really not any better than the other.

Re:This sounds like... (3, Informative)

TechForensics (944258) | more than 6 years ago | (#20614509)

This is very old news. Almost fifty years ago rigid wing assemblies, or "Batwings" as they were called, were banned in the skydiving community as simply too dangerous. Let's hope the present inventors (or maybe they are better called engineers) can do better.

Re:This sounds like... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20614907)

... the next Jackass movie!

Re:This sounds like... (1)

nobuddy (952985) | more than 6 years ago | (#20636455)

At 135MPH, you can go feet first and you will still shater your melon when you hit something. The only difference is you get to feel everything else break up to that point. I elect head first, thank you.

I, no ... well (4, Funny)

ScrewMaster (602015) | more than 6 years ago | (#20611947)

There's got to be a good strap-on joke in here somewhere but I'm too many beers down to come up with it.

Re:I, no ... well (1)

Tesla15 (834968) | more than 6 years ago | (#20612115)

A couple more and something is bound to come up :)

Re:I, no ... well (2, Funny)

YrWrstNtmr (564987) | more than 6 years ago | (#20612137)

A couple more, and it probably can't come up.

Re:I, no ... well (1)

ookabooka (731013) | more than 6 years ago | (#20612355)

All you have to do is strap this thing on, get it up, glide a little bit (perhaps back and forth (in the sky)) and then at the end, deploy the parachute

I had a few as well, but at least I tried.

Re:I, no ... well (1)

ookabooka (731013) | more than 6 years ago | (#20612387)

And 2 seconds after I submitted I realized "In the Sky" sounds a lot like "In this guy". . .damn I missed the opportunity to make that a really great pun. . oh well, serves me right for drinking on a Friday night.

P.S. Does anyone else other than coders use nested parenthesis in writing something in English?

Re:I, no ... well (2, Informative)

Em Adespoton (792954) | more than 6 years ago | (#20616375)

P.S. Does anyone else other than coders use nested parenthesis in writing something in English?
Well, the official way to do it (when you do it in English [writing, that is])is to alternate curved and square parentheses. This is similar to using nested quotes (alternating double and single quotes) where the rule tends to match in programming languages. Personally, I think that this would be useful in programming languages as well, but I don't recall seeing any that do it.

Some videos (4, Informative)

linhux (104645) | more than 6 years ago | (#20611983)

Re:Some videos (1)

samwh (921444) | more than 6 years ago | (#20612183)

German videos with Strapons? Last time I watched one of those I got a visit from the FBI's Partyvan .

Re:Some videos (2, Funny)

E++99 (880734) | more than 6 years ago | (#20613317)

My German may be a bit rusty, but I think they were saying something about a Master Race and a new air invasion of Britain.

Dude! (1)

BitwizeGHC (145393) | more than 6 years ago | (#20611987)

Now I'll finally know what it's like to be Starscream!

Buck-and-a-quarter Quarter Staff (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20612075)

Yikes, and away!

Safety..? (2, Insightful)

suv4x4 (956391) | more than 6 years ago | (#20612105)

There's a reason why the more serious engineers of personal flying vehicles claim it's not possible to make it safe without making it fully automatic (computerized).

It's not in the capability of an average man to pilot his own personal plane, be it just pair of wings on his back, unless a computer does 99.9% of the job. And if it does it, then it better be coordinated centrally with all other flying personal jets in the area. Automatically again.

If they ever release this thing with jet engines, they'll probably make you sign tons of legalese that they're not responsible if you die within one minute of flight, not to mention you'll not be allowed to fly above, or near, urban areas.

Re:Safety..? (4, Interesting)

(H)elix1 (231155) | more than 6 years ago | (#20612611)


It's not in the capability of an average man to pilot his own personal plane, be it just pair of wings on his back, unless a computer does 99.9% of the job. And if it does it, then it better be coordinated centrally with all other flying personal jets in the area.


I suspect you over estimate how hard it is to learn to fly. I flew solo after 10 hours of instruction, and that was with some pucker factor built in. Learning to crash (gracefully) and navigate ate up another 30 hours, and another 4 hours practicing for the test. The hardest part might just be the medical. (grin) Once you get past remembering to put the gear down, jet engine is not much harder than a constant speed prop.

As for signing stuff... depends on how they license this thing. They sell it as under 'sport aircraft' regs, it takes even less training to fly less than even experimental. Usually the gating factor is getting someone willing to insure you.

Re:Safety..? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20617069)

Oh, come on! You're giving too much credit to the shittastic drivers out there. Just the other day I was driving behind a guy after classes with all of his lights off. Going 20 under the speed limit. Whatever his story was, you're still going to get people like him all over the place. With or without proper training.

Re:Safety..? (1)

smellsofbikes (890263) | more than 6 years ago | (#20621941)

There are dozens, if not hundreds, of cases where a pilot has been medically incapacitated and a passenger has, with radio instruction, managed to land the plane. *Flying* a plane is not hard. They mostly fly themselves. It's the organizational and emergency stuff -- what to do when the engine catches on fire or you fly into a cloud or you get lost, how to talk on the radio, how to navigate, how to calculate whether the plane's too heavy to take off from a short runway at high altitude on a hot day, and if so how much fuel you can drain out while still making it to a lower, cooler airport to refuel -- that distinguishes a pilot from someone who can fly a plane once in an emergency situation and land it without bending it too badly. I first "flew" an airplane when I was 8 and at that time I could make it turn gracefully and line it up with the runway.

A scream through the air... (0, Troll)

xednieht (1117791) | more than 6 years ago | (#20612125)

"at about 135MPH" sound fun until you hit the ground at 135MPH.

Stupidest invention out there.

Leave it to the Germans to come up with this retarded invention. Hey I have an idea why not wipe out anyone that is not blond and blue eyed.

Guns aren't stupid... people are stupid, and sometimes there just aren't enough bullets.

If they are having trouble with the jet (4, Informative)

Clockwork Apple (64497) | more than 6 years ago | (#20612147)

Maybe they should ask Yves Rossy how he did it... a year or so ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHYXrqoS08o [youtube.com]

Re:If they are having trouble with the jet (1)

srmalloy (263556) | more than 6 years ago | (#20617139)

Thank you for digging that up; I knew I'd seen video of a similar device a while back, but couldn't remember where I'd seen it.

From the picture in TFA, though, I remember seeing a diagram of an almost identical strap-on wing about two years ago (which equals eternity in Net time) on one of the "what's happening in defense research" websites; apparently they finally got enough of the bugs out of the design to be putting people up in the air with them. The original plans for the device, though, were to have it capable of takeoff, which neither the device in TFA nor Yves Rossy's wing will do; apparently engine design hasn't gotten the power-to-weight ratio necessary to be able to make the Rocketeer.

Re:If they are having trouble with the jet (1)

9Nails (634052) | more than 6 years ago | (#20619137)

I must have missed the latest Episode of 007, because I'm certain that he would have a device just like this!

Personally, I'd really like to see something like this with ground take-off capable and 3+ hr endurance. But I can see this as a success story and not just a cool blip on the radar like hover scooters or Segway's.

Re:If they are having trouble with the jet (1)

srmalloy (263556) | more than 6 years ago | (#20629055)

Given the way people tend to zoom around on recreational vehicles like ATVs and the like, if a consumer product like that were available, I'd expect to see it become more of a dark, smokey blotch on the ground after users showboat with it and lose control. (e.g., the last words of a redneck pilot: "Hey, y'all, watch this!")

Re:If they are having trouble with the jet (1)

Big Nemo '60 (749108) | more than 6 years ago | (#20623519)

(I should check Slashdot daily as I used to do...)

More videos and photos on M. Rossy's website [jet-man.com] (and a new sponsor...)

I like M. Rossy's concept a lot. Besides the folding mechanism, the wing is very simple - no control surfaces, just a trim to adjust the angle of attack when the jets are on (and of course the throttle). All control (roll, pitch, jaw) is done through traditional skydiving techniques. That, and having to unfold the wing after the jump, requires a very experienced skydiver tho...

I bet his wing has a better gliding ratio than the Gryphon. And with the jets on, he can *climb* pretty fast!

Alas, he damaged the wing in April (he wasn't hurt) and now he is busy fixing it. I hope we'll see him flying again soon! (And seriously... Why Red Bull isn't sponsoring him?)

Ridiculous (1)

suv4x4 (956391) | more than 6 years ago | (#20612155)

Upon further inspection (understand: I RTFA), this has got to be a joke.

This is the supposed design of the Gryphon [networkworld.com] .

Apart from making the man "wearing" it look like a douchebag (what is this, an airplane Halloween costume?), it has the extra benefit putting your head right on front, so you can enjoy the potential impact at its full force.

This better be some hell of a helmet he has.

Re:Ridiculous (2, Interesting)

deft (253558) | more than 6 years ago | (#20612245)

As opposed to your design where the head is.... facing backwards?

thats where it has to go, and sorry, but if theres an impact, it doesnt matter WHERE the head is, it will shortly be smashed on the pavement. This system is designed to land by parachute, wings on back.

Re:Ridiculous (1)

suv4x4 (956391) | more than 6 years ago | (#20612429)

As opposed to your design where the head is.... facing backwards?

As opposed to a full design where you have an ejectable seat and other safety measures built in.

Let's see what's the road equivalent of this plane: a motorcycle. No airbag, belt, ability to absorb chock as a full blown automobile can. Hence you're in a much bigger risk being in an accident with motorcycle than a car (statistically, and logically).

And this is without putting your head right on front of the bike. This thing looks laughable. But if they make it look slicker, and with the help of some wires and CGI, I could be fooled an average fella could easily operate it and survive.

your new design? (1)

deft (253558) | more than 6 years ago | (#20612947)

"As opposed to a full design where you have an ejectable seat and other safety measures built in."

I think you are failing to realize that when the wings are ON YOUR BACK there is NOTHING TO EJECT FROM! You just need to unclip from the wings and you're fine... they will fly away. They you pull your chute.'

But lets examine your design enhancements:

Yeah, so you'd be sitting in a seat...good idea. Nice and confy. maybe be goos for a few gauges too.

maybe put the wings on the seat too... hmm, yes. and the fuel in the wing... jets on the back. think we need a cockpit? sure... lets do that... lets call it a jet aircraft!

I don't know why i ever doubted you.

Re:your new design? (1)

suv4x4 (956391) | more than 6 years ago | (#20613253)

I think you are failing to realize that when the wings are ON YOUR BACK there is NOTHING TO EJECT FROM!

I think you're failing to understand that for this thing to be usable, you need engines on it. And if the engines catch fire, or go otherwise wrong, the parachute will be useless if it's embedded right next to the engines.

Good thing you're not making planes I guess.

Re:your new design? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20613871)

This craft is not a plane; it is much much closer to powered hang glider. Either way, a crash is likely to be fatal regardless the location of the head of the operator. Surviving a catastrophic failure in a powered hang glider will amount to your ability to release and utilize a parachute.

I get the distinct feeling that you are not a member of the aerospace community in any way shape or form. You simply cannot get the safety you want in such a small air vehicle. There is a reason that every aspect in the professional aerospace industry from the pilots, inspection staff and maintenance crew require many many hours of training to get their certification. In addition, with proper inspection and maintenance the vehicle won't have a catastrophic failure. Although you cannot prepare for every situation, it is far more likely that the risk to the pilots will be due to their own failures instead of the failures of the craft.

So, get back in your SUV 4x4 and fuck off, dimwit.

Re:your new design? (3, Insightful)

lessthan (977374) | more than 6 years ago | (#20615519)

Of course, the actual pertinent question is "Would a person willing to strap that thing on their back going to be concerned about safety?" I am going to go out on a limb and say no. So why argue about how safe it is?

Re:your new design? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20615971)

You're an idiot

Re:your new design? (1)

Em Adespoton (792954) | more than 6 years ago | (#20616587)

I think the point with this thing is that you don't have to eject; you release the wings (with fuel and jets) from your pack, and descend with the parachute as usual.

The one thing I'm wary about is that the device will contain both jet fuel and oxygen, both in close quarters to your body. In the time it would take for the oxygen tank to explode in an equipment malfunction, you likely wouldn't have time to release the jets from the pack. At least with a jet there's a bit of shielding.

Re:Ridiculous (1)

NonSequor (230139) | more than 6 years ago | (#20612259)

And I thought people riding on Segways looked ridiculous.

Strap-on? (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20612223)

Please don't mention "strap-on" around my girlfriend. Last time, she, umm, got "ideas."

All I can say is that I didn't normally the next day.

Dumb assed drivers... (1)

Mr. Underbridge (666784) | more than 6 years ago | (#20612233)

...have enough trouble negotiating the 2 dimensions they deal with now. I can just see 'cell phone douchebag' flying all over the place without even painted lines to tell him where to go.

Re:Dumb assed drivers... (1)

rah1420 (234198) | more than 6 years ago | (#20615343)

I can just see 'cell phone douchebag' flying all over the place without even painted lines to tell him where to go.

And you really think that the painted lines help the cell phone douchebags?

Trust me, I'd much prefer to have three dimensions. If I change my flight level then there's practically zero chance of intersecting with idiots at another flight level. Remember "The Wrath of Khan." [wikipedia.org]

Re:Dumb assed drivers... (1)

mennucc1 (568756) | more than 6 years ago | (#20615853)

.Dumb assed drivers.....?.
if they use this gizmo, then Darwin will get us rid of them in one generation time

something like this before... (1)

icegreentea (974342) | more than 6 years ago | (#20612405)

wasn't there some strap-on wing and w/e developed for us special forces? i seem to recall reading about it on slashdot sometime in the past.

Re:something like this before... (2, Funny)

Jaxoreth (208176) | more than 6 years ago | (#20613853)

wasn't there some strap-on wing and w/e developed for us special forces?
You're thinking of an actual rocketpack prototype that was invented by Howard Hughes in 1938 and stolen by the Nazis for the purpose of creating a flying army, though it was accidentally destroyed soon after they acquired it. The FBI managed to keep the whole thing secret until about 1991, when news of the incident became public [wikipedia.org] .

Practical? (1)

thatskinnyguy (1129515) | more than 6 years ago | (#20612447)

How is this practical? I mean, sure I hate the 15 minute drive to work, but it's not worth my life and the money to shave a few minutes off of that.

Re:Practical? (1)

RegularFry (137639) | more than 6 years ago | (#20613895)

I'm sure your job doesn't involve a HALO drop. That's what this is for.

Well, looks like someone has to change the joke... (2, Funny)

tlhIngan (30335) | more than 6 years ago | (#20612801)

After all, the old pilot joke that goes:

Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing. Any landing where the plane can be used again is a *great* landing


since they're now one and the same...

*grin*

Kinda tricky? (1)

Pedrito (94783) | more than 6 years ago | (#20613011)

"Researchers say the final version of the flying wing will contain an electronic system that will take care of some of the steering for the pilot which today can be a little tricky, researchers say."

IANAP, but I figure the landings are probably the trickiest, followed by the take-offs. But there's also the issue of avoiding a bunch of other idiots not looking where they're flying while talking on their cell phones that kind has me concerned. Is it going to have radar and a computer that can avoid smashing into these other human missiles as well?

Re:Kinda tricky? (1)

Jim Starx (752545) | more than 6 years ago | (#20615947)

Try reading the article. Then look at what you wrote.

Funny timing (1)

DrBuzzo (913503) | more than 6 years ago | (#20613043)

I actually just wrote a long post on my website about jetpacks, the past and the possible future of "backpack flying" http://depletedcranium.com/?p=103 [depletedcranium.com]

Not to like... go around spamming my own site, but it actually pertains to this. There are issues with the "Winged" packs, which have limited them to skydiving type use.

FAA regulations and whatnot (1)

huckda (398277) | more than 6 years ago | (#20613081)

will keep this from ever becoming a reality for the common man.

That along with the number of Mid-flight deaths...but they say it isn't the fall that kills you, but the sudden stop at the end of the fall.

Re:FAA regulations and whatnot (1)

IHC Navistar (967161) | more than 6 years ago | (#20613785)

GOOD!

I don't want the Common Man to have these.....Considering that the Common Man has enough trouble driving a car to begin with.

Re:FAA regulations and whatnot (2, Insightful)

Charcharodon (611187) | more than 6 years ago | (#20614137)

Actually something like this is already regulated, but not in the way you think. There probably will be absolutley no requirements to get one other than a credit card or cash, since it's so small. The only restrictions will be where you fly it (airspace restriction) Whether it's a Rocketeer outfit or some yahoo with a lawnchair, 2 dozen helium ballons, and a BB-gun doesn't matter because the FAA could care less as long is it doesn't get in the way of regular aircraft.

You can go out right now and get the current equivalent, para-sails and hang gliders (powered or not) and go kill yourself nearly restriction free. I see no reason why this "new" jet wing will be any different.

Re:FAA regulations and whatnot (1)

huckda (398277) | more than 6 years ago | (#20637257)

because it is 'powered flight'...rather than a derigible(sp)...although it may achieve 'ultra-light' status and thus be less restricted.

Re:FAA regulations and whatnot (1)

Charcharodon (611187) | more than 6 years ago | (#20677419)

Actually Derigibles actually fall under powered flight, though powered flight is not actually a catagory used by the FAA. You are thinking of baloons. You have Fixed wing, rotary wing, lighter than air, and powered lift as catagories of aircraft.

Here are a basic list on restrictions for ultralight operation.

Used only for sport and recreation
Daylight operations only
No operations over congested areas
Used by a single occupant
Maximum five gallons of fuel
Yield right-of-way to all other aircraft
Operation in controlled airspace and restricted areas requires prior permission

You don't need a license if you are by yourself

Weight, speed, and fuel capacity are what would get you into into the FAR part 103 catagory of operating under ultralight rules, so a whether it be a hang glider, a ballon, derigible, or a sailplane as long as it falls under the max limits it's considered an ultralight.

Actually this jet pack thing might not pass muster since 24 knots is max speed allowed for ultralights and from what I've seen of other jet packs they go considerably faster than 24 knots. They probably end up falling under parachute regulations since you cannot actually take off or land from the ground in the thing.

Who knows? Call the FAA I guess.

Looks like something... (1)

LazyBoy (128384) | more than 6 years ago | (#20613191)

that should be worn in front of a fast food restaurant when passing out coupons.

Researchers say, (1)

Danga (307709) | more than 6 years ago | (#20613377)

'Researchers say the final version of the flying wing will contain an electronic system that will take care of some of the steering for the pilot which today can be a little tricky, researchers say.

Researchers say!

Looks like a fat birdie to me ;) (1)

sw155kn1f3 (600118) | more than 6 years ago | (#20613453)

http://www.networkworld.com/graphics/2007/gryphondude.jpg [networkworld.com]
Wondering this guy has big orange beak attached to the front to his helmet and white parachute as his paunch. Would be sexy ;), no? Glad to meet you Mr. Tux.

Jetpack (1)

metalcoat (918779) | more than 6 years ago | (#20613791)

The company also plans to add small jets to the wing making it a true jetpack in the future.

Great! Now I will have something to spend all those Pepsi Points on.

Another jet pack (2, Interesting)

biomass (13779) | more than 6 years ago | (#20613935)

A nice video demonstration of an
awesome jet pack [youtube.com]

Jetpack video (1)

CoolCat23 (923066) | more than 6 years ago | (#20614281)

Re:Jetpack video (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20614923)

Just wanted to say thanks for that awesome link to the Swiss jet wing video! They are alot farther along than the one shown in Germany.

Men on Fire (1)

polyex (736819) | more than 6 years ago | (#20614425)

Men on fire, flying through the air. Live leak is going to have a never ending supply of video content for free if this ever comes to market (doubt it).

I have seen this before...deja vu? (1)

Karem Lore (649920) | more than 6 years ago | (#20614559)

No, James Bond (Pierce Brosnan and Halle Berry) used one in Die Another Day...Towards the ground they eject themselves from the plane and parachute down...Hope its cheap then or my tax dollars are being wasted on James.

Karem

for sure? (1)

naam00 (1145163) | more than 6 years ago | (#20614607)

... demonstrated a form of 'strap-on jet wing' that lets a user truly fly through the air.
...as opposed to what? Untruly flying through the air?

Watch out for the demo... (1)

DieByWire (744043) | more than 6 years ago | (#20615301)

If they get Bill Dube to do a static test burn [slashdot.org] , don't get in front of him!

In the future (1)

grumling (94709) | more than 6 years ago | (#20615685)

I imagine a world where the only sound you hear is Doppler shifted screams followed by a lot of destruction. I'm going to start a roofing company.
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