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What Do You Want In iPhone 2.0?

Zonk posted more than 6 years ago | from the you-know-its-coming dept.

Communications 436

Ian Lamont writes "The predictions about the iPhone being a bust have so far been way off the mark, but that doesn't mean the device is perfect. Besides the dependence on the AT&T Edge network and the lack of an iPhone SDK, there are a boatload of UI, software and hardware issues that should be addressed in the next-generation iPhone. Some complaints include GPS functionality, allowing iPhones to be used as hard drives, adding RSS support, and turning auto-correct into auto-complete. What would you want to see in the next generation of iPhone?"

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436 comments

Less. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20703179)

Less gay and more frosty piss!

Re:Less. (1, Troll)

UnixRawks (705739) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703293)

I don't think they could be less gay but more gay! They need it in a rainbow fa^H^Hflag colour! Seriously, cutting the cord of at&t would be the best thing, and opening it up w/ an SDK.

be carful (1, Insightful)

ttapper04 (955370) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703211)

It could be like the PSP, once you upgrade the firmware your homebrew stopped working.

I don't want much more (4, Informative)

blantonl (784786) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703215)

But this would do it for me:

1. Native iChat functionality
2. Ability to tether the device
3. Some level of copy and paste.
4. Ability to clear all SMS conversations

That's about it.

Re:I don't want much more (3, Insightful)

powerpointmonkey (840630) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703391)

I'm in the UK, and for me the killer feature would be HSDPA. My 2year old HTC phone has 'propper' 3g, why was the iPhone crippled?

Re:I don't want much more (4, Informative)

bstadil (7110) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703801)

It was not deliberately crippled. The current chips uses too much power and would make the battery life unacceptable. Google for more info and Jobs' comments on the subject. 3G with less power is scheduled for 2Q08 if I remember correctly.

Re:I don't want much more (-1, Troll)

UbuntuDupe (970646) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703845)

5. Wait for early adopters' dicks to fit back into their pants before a price drop.

Re:I don't want much more (1)

adisakp (705706) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703857)

I don't want much more either.... oh except for it to work better as an actual phone. Right now the max volume is ridiculously for both the speaker phone and the regular phone speaker. If you're in a crowded place, you won't be able to hear the normal speaker and if you're in your car on a noisy road, the speaker phone is barely loud enough to work. The three most important things for a multi-media phone should be:

#1) Does it work well as a phone ?

#2) Does it work well as a phone ?

#3) Does it work well as a phone ?

Everything else should be second unless you want to carry around a second phone to actually make calls on. My other (much more minor) gripe is that it's way too easy to mistype on the built-in keyboard.

Re:I don't want much more (1)

montygreen (870808) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703867)

I don't want much more either. Multi-line support would be way cool. Voice dialing doesn't seem to far fetched.

Errr, yeah, GPS is just what it needs... (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20703237)

GPS functionality? How about moving to this side of Y2K when it comes to cellphone technology first? I don't know, maybe start with MMS?

A user-replaceable battery? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20703241)

<grin>

Battery door, native SDK, unlocked (2, Insightful)

MacDork (560499) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703505)

And drop the glass or drop the price of glass repair from $250.

Well, for one... (2, Funny)

Daimando (842740) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703247)

removable flash memory would be a start.

Re:Well, for one... (1)

Romancer (19668) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703619)

Ah, but then you'd go down that slippery slope and people whould start asking for removable batteries again. :)

Seriously though, the built in battery only really works when the device itself is a consumable, most poeple use their phones the two years and toss them before the battery goes completely flat and they get a new phone. These phones though are next to free and can be considered consumable to the masses. The higher tech devices on the other hand are not. Think people replace their PDAs and (non apple)MP3 players every two years? Not likely, these have better lifespans and are used for more functions that are long lasting, listening to music and organizing information and future events. It's one thing to transfer your phonebook from one phone to another but a PDA is a pain to get synched up again with different software or a new model with (sigh) different version of Outlook. PITA!

The iPhone is combining these devices together and still carrying the baggage and shortcommings from the devices it's supposed to surpass. Removable battery, high speed data connections (including wireless since that's it's main functioning state). And the highest neglected feature request that has stumped corporate america so far: User enhanced functionality. Get it right this tiem apple, give us the ability to improve your product for you, For FREE no less! Let us make spiffy programs and features that will propogate with demand across your sleek foundation hardware. Give us the chance to make you money.

Re:Well, for one... (1)

JazzyMusicMan (1012801) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703657)

or better yet...removable battery...

The only reason I haven't purchased one (0, Redundant)

Yold (473518) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703255)

Hardware keyboard + Unix Apps.

Nuff said...

Re:The only reason I haven't purchased one (1)

Yold (473518) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703355)

BTW my brick-of-a-phone (aka. HTC vx), runs anything, has wifi, and a keyboard. But, again, it is a friggin brick with the shitty IE mobile browser. In my opinion, safari is the iPhone's killer app.

Re:The only reason I haven't purchased one (1)

Mascot (120795) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703537)

There are some pretty nifty keyboard phones available at the moment. The HTC S710 [htc.com] for example (Opera supposedly works on it). That's what I'm getting. iPhone is too much bling, too little... phone.

Oh yeah, and after getting burned by the 3G iPod battery, I'm not getting anything Apple again unless it comes with user replacable battery.

Re:The only reason I haven't purchased one (2, Interesting)

empaler (130732) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703679)

BTW my brick-of-a-phone (aka. HTC vx), runs anything, has wifi, and a keyboard. But, again, it is a friggin brick with the shitty IE mobile browser. In my opinion, safari is the iPhone's killer app.
I have a HTC Wizard (locally known ad QTek 9100) - the killer app for the is the Opera browser. Opera Mini for Java is okay, but Opera Mobile for Windows CE/Mobile is totally FTW.

That being said, it's also a brick, so I use it twice a month.

That's funny... (4, Interesting)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703675)

Hardware keyboard

Funny, the lack of a software keyboard or renewed form of Jot was the reason I never purchased a Treo.

After you use a virtual keyboards, and you find that it changes to symbols that make sense for the context you are in... I never ever want to go back to a real keyboard. Even desktop keyboards I find annoying in the rigidity they offer, especially when playing games.

UNIX apps? Already got 'em.

Re:That's funny... (1)

HartDev (1155203) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703987)

I love the software keyboard I can type soo dang fast on it! If you already got UNIX apps, maybe it would be fun to see Windows apps, not that I would ever code them, but would try it out if someone else did.

Be Cheap and Unlocked (0)

weav (158099) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703267)

Have it cost $100 and work with any carrier (OK, that can be after a limited lock-in period say a year or two).

Easy answer (4, Funny)

obender (546976) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703271)

In iPhone2 I want OpenMoko.

That's what you want in OpenMoko 2.0 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20703643)

Being able to install on an iPhone is a feature lacking in OpenMoko. iPhone is just hardware. Hardware doesn't care. If OpenMoko won't run on it, then fix your OpenMoko.

Drag & Drop, Ogg & AVI.....Linux? (1)

HartDev (1155203) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703273)

The best thing, without a doubt, and desperately wanting.....is drag and drop! Let me drag and drop my music, iTunes is not a good UI for managing a device! Also the ability to play more video audio and video formats like ogg and avi. I think the only way this will happen, is somebody port Linux to this thing........please port Linux! Is there somewhere I can donate $100 to the Linux on the iPhone project?

Re:Drag & Drop, Ogg & AVI.....Linux? (1)

Qubit (100461) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703465)

Is there somewhere I can donate $100 to the Linux on the iPhone project?


How about the OpenMoko? I figure that they could use $100 to advance development on that hardware/software.

Speaking of which, what does the iPhone have that the OpenMoko doesn't have (or won't have when they do the v2 release)? What needs to be done to get people to choose the OpenMoko over the iPhone?

Re:Drag & Drop, Ogg & AVI.....Linux? (1)

HartDev (1155203) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703601)

I will admit I was extremely impatient, yes the OpenMoko looks like it will rock up all the way. But I was carrying a palm pilot, phone and iPod, I needed music to get through work, the calendar to remember anything, and the phone goes without saying. All that and the moko isn't out for the normal consumer yet, not that I would love to code and hack away, I just don't have the time, and the whole point of this device is to say time and make things easier by combining technology......Besides how wonderful would it be to flaunt Linux on the iphone to Apple(the new wanna be Microsoft)? What would be wicked awesome would be getting the Openmoko OS on the iPhone!

Re:Drag & Drop, Ogg & AVI.....Linux? (1)

Kenshin (43036) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703769)

I drag and drop my music... in iTunes.

I find the music I want in my library, drag it to the iPod icon on the side, and drop.

You can do that, you know. "Syncing" is only optional.

Re:Drag & Drop, Ogg & AVI.....Linux? (1)

HartDev (1155203) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703875)

I know about that, but I want to have a folder named "Songs from Prom" (just and example...haha) and then drop whatever songs into that folder, not playlists and not after iTunes allows me. I wanna file browse in Windows, Linux, Mac OS X with or without iTunes.

Re:Drag & Drop, Ogg & AVI.....Linux? (1)

heinousjay (683506) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703953)

I haven't tried 7.4.2 yet, but as of 7.4.1, drag & drop of music wasn't working for me. I had to make playlists and sync those to get the music on the phone. Perhaps I'm missing the magical modifier key?

The perfect OS (3, Funny)

gardyloo (512791) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703283)

Windows Me.

Re:The perfect OS (1)

WwWonka (545303) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703955)

"Windows Me."

waves magic wand...

***poof***

"There! you are now a bloated over hyped supposed media killer operating system!"

uhm.. open to all providers (1)

deftones_325 (1159693) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703287)

At+T must have some sort of stranglehold on apple for now.. but when thats up.. then i might buy one. But.. by then i'm sure some rip-off version or the newest Linux phones will be out.

Exchange Active Sync Support (1)

sybarite (566454) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703305)

I am hoping for Exchange Activesync support. I have several clients who will switch from Windows Mobile-based phones to the iPhone in droves if this were available.

Re:Exchange Active Sync Support (1)

mergy (42601) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703417)

Agreed on this. Heck even Palm OS can do this now. My Treo 700p does just fine with Activesync and Kerio. Once you have your calendar, contacts and email syncing to your phone, you really don't want to abandon that fuctionality. If the iPhone had that, and I could get a command line and ssh, I would be set.

What kind of boat are we talking about!? (1)

Orig_Club_Soda (983823) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703307)

A freakin dingy?

ichat+flash (0)

trybywrench (584843) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703321)

ichat and flash, that's all i ask. (I'm aware that Flash is really up to Adobe)

Flash is up to Apple... (1, Informative)

MacDork (560499) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703699)

Without a native SDK, Adobe is pretty helpless in offering Flash. Bitch to Apple, not Adobe.

Really? (5, Interesting)

jvagner (104817) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703325)

We just went through months and months of iPhone discussions. Then we re-hashed half of those details in the way that the iPod Touch is a little disappointing. A lot of progress has been made in terms of getting unofficial 3rd party apps installed to the device. Do we really have to talk about this already?

Here's the thing: Apple, and Steve Jobs, will do exactly what they want and nothing more. We may get iChat support, we may get video at some point, but we're probably not getting an official SSH client. We're probably not getting VOIP, even though Apple has made obvious their disdain for the cell industry.

Once a product is launched, Apple tends to make small, incremental improvements. I don't see the iPhone 2.0 as a huge step up. In his "Steve Takes Europe" tour, the timelines for a 3G iPhone seem to be pointing more towards the end of next year, not sooner.

Be happy with your iPhone now. I won't be getting one, but that's okay. But I *am* done thinking about the iPhone, because for me it really is short of the mark. I'm in love with the interface, the form factor, and the degree to which Apple was able to think very differently than the rest of the industry. But, Apple's self-imposed product limitations are too annoying for me. It's just not going to be the device I really want.

It really only needs two things (4, Insightful)

StarKruzr (74642) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703579)

which will enable everything else (short of 3G).

1) SDK
2) Uncrippled Bluetooth.

Re:It really only needs two things (1)

HartDev (1155203) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703799)

Is there gonna be a hack for the bluetooth? Nothing irks me more then a useless bluetooth feature.

Re:It really only needs two things (1)

MacDork (560499) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703869)

1 could solve 2

Voice dialing (1, Informative)

sxltrex (198448) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703331)

EVERY phone made today should come with this feature. Many states have or are soon going to have laws that require using a hands-free set to talk while driving (CA's takes effect July 2008). While the iPhone does work with bluetooth headsets, requiring a driver to take their eyes off the road in order to initiate a call is inexcusable. I personally will not be purchasing an iPhone (although I do want one!) until this feature is added.

Re:Voice dialing (1)

SCHecklerX (229973) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703831)

That's a dumb law. It encourages using a phone while driving. Something that falls under driving distracted and shouldn't be done.

Ummmm (1)

amohat (88362) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703333)

Yes, please.

All of the above.

Re:Ummmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20703523)

||oooh... some of that down there looks good too!
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International Availability (1)

c_sd_m (995261) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703367)

To be able to buy it in Canada? At least it should be easy to set the pricing now...

email deletion (2)

zaimor (675077) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703369)

the ability to delete multiple emails at once

Voice Synthesizer/Modulator (5, Funny)

kwabbles (259554) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703429)

I want to be able to change my voice when I call people.

Options must include:

Barry White
Liz Hurley
Megatron
Gary Coleman
Jerry Lewis
R2D2
Bobcat Goldthwait
Herve Villavechaize
Smeagol (post-ring)

I'd switch to AT&T for that.

Re:Voice Synthesizer/Modulator (1)

tholomyes (610627) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703639)

Add in K.I.T.T. and Groucho Marx, and I'm in!

Developers! Developers! Developers! (1, Interesting)

iamacat (583406) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703433)

Keep the hardware as it is, release an SDK integrated with XCode. It's really a shame to pay so much for hardware and not be able to play an occasional chess game.

Killer feature: (1)

Alwin Henseler (640539) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703437)

Well, I don't have an iPhone myself yet, but there's 1 feature, that (like its predecessor) it MUST have:

It should blend [willitblend.com] !! (fragile souls: please don't go there)
I mean, how else are you gonna make money off it, reselling it on eBay?

I hate when people call me on their iPhone (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20703455)

I don't have one so I can't tell them what they are doing wrong. What happens is apparently their face starts pushing numbers on the touch screen while they are talking which then makes the touch-tone sounds. Ugh, so annoying.

It's a piece of shit design if that can't be disabled. I'm thinking there is something you need to push after dialing to deactivate the touch screen. In any case this is a mark against touch screens on phones.

Re:I hate when people call me on their iPhone (1)

dgatwood (11270) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703817)

The iPhone has a proximity sensor specifically to prevent that. It's not Apple's fault if your friend is using a poorly designed case that blocks the proximity sensor.... Either that or your friend has a defective iPhone---I couldn't tell you which. I've never experienced that on my iPhone.

In my experience, false button presses are much more likely to occur on button-based phones than on the iPhone.

Re:I hate when people call me on their iPhone (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20703965)

They are not using a case. Besides, I don't know what type of proximity sensor the iPhone uses but it's probably the RF type which means you would need a metal cage to block the signal.

It's not just one person either, I know several people that have iPhones and they have all exhibited this problem at least once while I was talking to them.

what i want in an iphone (1)

overcaffein8d (1101951) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703461)

is a hard disk that is at least 80 gb.... or like the new 160.

though it may be fairly hard to do, i want to actually use it as an ipod.... that's when i would buy one.

Features (1)

bloatboy (170414) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703469)

What would actually get me to buy it is an SDK along with acceptance and even encouragement of 3rd party applications.

Changing the UI (among other things) would also be a requirement if they want my cash.

Re:Features (1)

Trillan (597339) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703949)

I actually really like Apple's approach to 3rd party software. However, it needs a way to bundle the pages and scripts up as an "application" that's stored on the device and shows up on the main menu. Native API access isn't really necessary, they just need a bit of structure around what's already there.

WiFi Only Mode... (1)

nweaver (113078) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703481)

One thing: I occasionally travel to Europe.

There are two reasons I didn't get an IPhone a couple days ago:

The first is "all need landscape entry", as mentioned in the article.

The second is "WiFi Only mode": When out of AT&T, I don't want it to transmit data over the cell network, only on the WiFi. There is "airplane mode" (no net) and "no wifi mode", but there is no "no cell" mode that I was able to find in 15 minutes of trying with a demo unit.

Re:WiFi Only Mode... (1)

Fnkmaster (89084) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703667)

This has been solved by one of the third party apps, called something like "NoEDGE" that has already come out. It gives you a handy quick switch to activate and deactivate EDGE.

A lot of the other complaints I see have also already been addressed by third party native apps (no iChat? There are already some nice AIM clients out there, in active development).

Now if Apple would just support a real SDK and get out of their absurd mentality, we'd get even better, more well-supported third party apps. Nobody I know is buying an iphone just to use the built-in apps. Every early adopter type I know who bought one has jailbreaked it and is running third party apps. Apple, get a clue.

Also, cut and paste would be nice and really needs Apple to develop it. And IMAP IDLE built in to MobileMail.app (though I think there'll be a good solution for IDLE soon enough if Apple doesn't come out with it).

Nothing (0, Offtopic)

roman_mir (125474) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703515)

didn't care about the first one, don't care about the rest. But I don't have an ipod ither.

What I really want is a vacation, so that's where my money will go to...

How about less control (0)

div_2n (525075) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703535)

1) Run it on any cellular network
2) Sync it to Linux (also add iTunes for Linux while you're at it)
3) 3G

Add all that and I'll consider buying it. If not, I'll never buy it.

Short list. (4, Interesting)

mypalmike (454265) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703557)

- SW: Todo list.
- SW: WiFi SIP phone application that I can use with any SIP provider.
- SW: Dev kit. (Partly so I can implement/port these if Apple or "official 3rd party developer" doesn't.)
- HW: HSDPA (3G).
- Service: Wireless sync calendar/contacts over WiFi or Edge/3G.

I was one of the naysayers, but I ended up buying one of the $300 4GB models a couple weeks back to try it out. Now, it's "from my cold dead hands." Web browsing and email on the iPhone are simply leaps and bounds better than what I had on my Samsung Blackjack.

Physical keyboard w/ 2nd battery (1)

G4from128k (686170) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703559)

A modest-size physical keyboard with a supplementary battery would make the iPhone (and iPod touch) a very nice ultra-ultra-portable. I'm thinking something analogous to the LandWare GoType Portable Keyboard or the Stowaway Portable Keyboard that was so nice on the old Palm Pilots. An added battery could boost the iPhone life to 10-20 hours of active screen and data use for a full day's (or long-flight's) use of the machine. Sitting on the keyboard in landscape mode, the unit would work well for email, taking notes, webmail, chat, discussion forums and other text-based editing. (I'd also love to see OmniOutliner on the iPhone).

I know Apple probably won't make this product, but (please, please, please) I hope some third party creates this.

You can already use an external battery (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703885)

Actually there are a lot of external battery packs already for the iPod, that also work with the iPhone (though you might want to check for compatibility to be sure).

It would be cool if they would support external Bluetooth keyboards, but really if they'd just support rotated keyboards in all applications that would be plenty good enough for me.

What would be cool is an external keyboard that also displayed keys dynamically, but on a larger scale...

BlackBerry Ad (2, Insightful)

c_sd_m (995261) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703565)

Is anyone else getting ads for the newest blackberries on this page?

Mike Lazaridis' view on the 'essence' of the blackberry is that a core team designed and engineered every aspect of the product. The integrated full-picture approach led to the difficult to duplicate product. This seems very close to Apple's design philosophy. In the blackberries it's led to lots of proposed features tested by employees using prototypes. Which ideas were (or weren't) successful is often surprising. So we can list lots of things we think we'd like but hopefully Apple takes their time properly considering and evaluating new features before launching a new product.

Re:BlackBerry Ad (1)

mysterious_mark (577643) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703943)

You forgot to mention that Blackberries have a really good SDK and extended J2ME API's and much optional JSR support where as the I-Phone has no SDK at all. I'll keep my Blackberry until the I-Phone gets an SDK , which could of course be a while. MM

Features Wanted (1)

FatherOfONe (515801) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703577)

I want the following: Note I just bought one for my wife, so I am no expert on the iPhone but here is my list.

1. Java - I can't believe this phone doesn't have it.
2. Flash - It may have it, so if so then remove this one.
3. 3G network speed
4. Ability to buy songs on 3G network.
5. Easy sync with Google applications - Calendar, Contacts etc. It sucks now.
6. Todo list. Perhaps it has one but I haven't found it yet.
7. Warranty if the phone gets damaged.
8. Warranty if the phone gets damaged.
9. Warranty if the phone gets damaged.
10.Warranty if the phone gets damaged.
11. Open up the freaking APIs!!! Then Google et all could write apps that I want on the phone. I understand that Apple doesn't want to "support" API's and they want to be able to swap out whatever they heck they want, but that will never happen in the long run. I wouldn't even mind if they forced every 3rd party app to be written in Java and then they just support the JVM, and can swap out whatever low level crap they want.

Re:Features Wanted (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 6 years ago | (#20704021)

Java & Flash - I've not really missed them in real use. There are few flash things that are must-haves in my book, and Java would be cool for programming but being able to write native Objective-C apps targeted to the phone would be just as good.

3G - WiFi is faster, EDGE is OK. I've not really missed 3G and EDGE has had good coverage as far as I have seen.

Ability to buy songs on 3G network. We'll have to see how the implementation works out, perhaps you'll be able to sample/buy but not download on EDGE. The Touch where the store currently works doesn't have EDGE as an option so we don't know yet what other choices they will make.

ToDo list - crazy omission. Definitely not there. It even syncs with iCal which does have one!

Warranty if the phone gets damaged.

Isn't that called "insurance"? They already have Applecare to cover device failure for an extra period. I don't really know of any other electronics that will honor a warranty for a device that has obviously undergone physical abuse.

Balmer wasn't wrong (1)

vosgienne (840792) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703585)

If you look at the number of phones that have been sold since the iPhone came out and the future projections, Apple isn't grabbing any huge market share. Windows runs on more phones sold by over an order of magnitude.

How about true multi-OS support? (1)

r_jensen11 (598210) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703595)

How about truly supporting multiple operating systems? Like allowing BSD, Linux, Windows, and Mac users have the same functionality. This doesn't mean that Apple has to provide the functionality, merely make it available (think ipod support for people not using iTunes.) Oh wait, this is Apple....

My short list (1)

Atticka (175794) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703607)

Removable battery
3G
Better data usage control
No lock in to AT&T
Use the contacts on the SIM card

The SIM card contacts issue is a big one.

Help design your own (1)

bstadil (7110) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703611)

If you have some innovative ideas. Head on over to IT|Redux [itredux.com] and post them as a comment. It|Redux is the organizer of the Office2.0 Conference [o2con.com] . This year they gave everyone an Iphone and had special applicatiions made to handle the conference. Next year they will design their own device and the process is on going. They have the money and smarts to do it well.

How about a delete user function? (0, Troll)

Sir_Ace (147391) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703615)


That way all of you; GUI-loving, latte sipping, look-at-me look-at-me, yuppies can remove yourselves from the planet.

If we were meant to be high tech we would have evolved to have cups attached to our ears, and strings between us...

Have a rotten iDay.. Ohh wait, is that trademarked too?

A source other than Apple and ATT (1)

Anomalyst (742352) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703627)

So we can make our own decisions about what code it runs, who it get service from and all the other things they want to lock away from us. (Yes I know about OpenMoko and will be taking a close look at it when it gets past v1.uhoh.

bubye AT+T (1)

haggus71 (1051238) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703631)

There is only one change that matters for a cell phone: dump AT+T.

Verizon and All-Tel are rated #1 in customer satisfaction every year, and what does Jobs do? Go with the company rated LAST in customer satisfaction. With that choice, he made a statement about his touch with consumers: it's gone.

Re:bubye AT+T (1)

overcaffein8d (1101951) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703889)

damn. they obviously didn't ask me about how much i like my alltel phone.

but i'm not complaining- my dad's company pays for it.

hi i'm new here (1)

R00BYtheN00BY (1118945) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703645)

hi i'm new here

3G (1)

mixenmaxen (857917) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703653)

The first version should have had it... In Europe it is standard for even low-end phones nowadays. What good is a phone with a great browser, a great screen and an excellent interface if it takes me forever to see ther frontpage of slashdot...

More space (1)

Belgand (14099) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703661)

If I get a convergence device like this I want it to be able to legitimately replace my iPod. Not one of those dinky little Nano things that can hold a couple of albums either, a proper iPod. Especially since they've pushed into video more heavily.

This means that I'm going to require it meet the (modest by today's standards) requirement of at least 20 GB of space that was their top of the line 2nd Gen. Moving it up into something far more current would be nice (I barely have enough room now) but until I can fully replace my iPod with an iPhone I don't see a reason to go with it.

Want to really make it a worthwhile purchase? While third-party software is a complete necessity a Palm emulator (even if it's not available on the CD) would bring in a ton of good applications even if it would be missing the massive benefit of functional pen input (though Graffiti 2 was a distinct step backwards).

My list (1)

Monkeys with Guns (1002565) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703663)

1. Ability to be a bluetooth modem.
2. Terminal
2.5 SSH client
3. On screen ESC, Ctrl, and | keys
4. Flash
6. XCode SDK

For $600, again? (5, Funny)

RingDev (879105) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703713)

Hell, I'm still waiting for iPhone 1.0 to give me a blow job. For another $600, iPhone two better come with a twin.

-Rick

freedom (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20703721)

I bought a P800 a few years ago, the first cool phone that can do everything ... well, not really. I was so stupid and bought the P990 a few month ago, and if i ever meet somebody from Sony again i hope he will wear flameproof underwear. In .de a lot people complain that they want a phone, nothing else. I want a phone that can do everything, but back to topic. - FREEDOM! I want to be able choose the carrier, the software, everthing. This is my biggest concern about the iphone right now. I bought the Pxxx phones because it's not some M$ crap, and i now there is a big library of 3rd party software. - gps, i already use it on my P990 with an external gps device and this is so usefull. - 3g, i have it already and there is no way i will go back. - RAM, my phone lacks of RAM, dunno how the iphone is. Multitasking? - speed, i don't want to wait seconds until an application starts. - Keys, you can't play games without proper keys, thats my experience with the P800. A dpad with 2 or 4 buttons on the other side. - SIP/skype/whatever client, very usefull when you have wlan and you are or have to call other countries. - External storage, like sd-cards. (and i hope they will not invent something like iCards like sony with the memorystick duo) disclaimer: i never touched an iphone, this is based on what i read.

trustworthiness, crypto (1)

Sloppy (14984) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703749)

  1. Apple, try to remember you're a hardware company. Of all your products, the phones are arguably the ones that most desperately need to be made trustworthy. So open up the software, and don't try to lock anyone into anything (other than getting them to buy your phone).
  2. This should be done by anyone who is doing a massive (i.e. popular) deployment of smart phones: alternate connectivity. When a smart phone is talking to another smart phone, they should use a protocol that totally leaves the POTS system behind, passing completely mysterious datagrams between one another, from the network's point of view. Let people load each other people's public keys into their phonebooks, have the phones exchange a few megabytes of random OTP (phones should be great entropy collectors) whenever two of them happen to be in the same room, etc. And the of course use that capability. But yeah, you'd need to standardize it, so that iPhones can talk to OpenMokos, etc. Don't try to own the protocol or else it will be useless.

lame article, fit for Digg only (3, Informative)

Jeremy_Bee (1064620) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703751)

I was struck by how stupid most of the 15 things listed in the ComputerWorld article were and how the list seemed to be a big confabulation of every complaint we have ever heard about the iPhone. Don't we know enough already to steer clear of any article that starts with "15 things..." or "10 great ways..."? :-)

Several of these "things to fix" are things that only third parties can accomplish, several more require entirely new hardware, and most of the rest are already slated to appear when Leopard comes out. At the very least, the article could differentiate between things requiring new hardware, and things that could be 'fixed" on the original iPhone.

For software related issues, it's hardly worth talking about until Leopard is out as it's pretty clear at this point that the iPhone was originally intended to be released in a post-Leopard world and is not "all that it was meant to be" at the moment. For hardware related stuff, GPS, G3, better camera, and second camera are too obvious to really mention (over and over again).

Ho-hum (yawns)

iChat!! (1)

ElGanzoLoco (642888) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703759)

-Please, please, please give us iChat, even if only through WiFi (that way the carriers don't lose too much business). I'm not even considering buying one if it doesn't have iChat. I can live without videoconferencing, but it would be trivial to add, so... -Ability to install any 3rd party applications, including Skype and SIP software. Not considering buying one as long as I have to hack it to install stuff on it. -As long as it doesn't get a lot more storage (over 40 gigs), it won't replace my current (60gb) iPod, so I still would have to carry 2 devices. -Being able to use all your songs as ringtones should be a given. My understanding is that the music majors don't want that to happen, but then why can I do it on my 2-year-old Sony Ericsson? -GPS would be kind of nice, sort of, but I can live without it.

Freedom (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20703763)

It isn't hard at all.

Freedom.

You already have a powerful embedded OS and a decent input system. Sure, some extra default apps might be nice; but it doesn't really matter.

Let us use our hardware without playing your damn lockdown games and we'll make the device what it ought to be.

(Note to Apple apologists and fanatical corporatists: I acknowledge Apple's right to lock down their device however they want; but It'll be a cold day in hell before I buy one.)

hype (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20703765)

I'd like less hype. I can't even get one in my country, and I've been swamped with this crap.

two things off the top of my head (1)

wickedsteve (729684) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703771)

I don't need a lot of stuff. I would never use GPS or IM.
What I want is a video camera and stereo bluetooth support for playing music.
Of course a video camera would need more capacity like 32GB or more. Who would not want a cheaper price and more storage?

Oh, I Have a Suggestion! (0, Troll)

morari (1080535) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703783)

How about a microscopic explosive device, which is implanted into the skull of an iPhone 2.0 consumer upon use. Once a sufficient amount of people have been "tagged", we press the big red button back at HQ and watch in glee as everyone stupid enough to pay such a ridiculous price for a telephone dies a very messy death.

Blue Tooth Profiles (1)

altarity (238277) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703811)

I bought one after the price drop. I'm seriously considering going back to my Treo 650. I'm totally flabergasted that the iphone hardware supports the 2.0 Bluetooth Standard and only the Headset profile is turned on. I totally understand what people are talking about now, when they say Apple is a control freak with their Kit.

It's almost like they haven't been able to make using Bluetooth "Apple Easy" so they just don't turn it on.

Verizon (1)

justfred (63412) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703819)

0. Verizon, or preferably carrier-independent
1. More OSX apps
2. Pocket Quicken
3. GPS
4. Bluetooth keyboard compatibility
5. Combo stereo headset/microphone for mp3s or phonecalls.
6. Bluetooth sync
7. More memory. 80GB should be fine.
8. Development kit (or development tools with XCode/Mac).

Basically I need it to be equal to or better in functionality to my 4-year-old Treo 650.

Let me count the ways... (1)

SpeedBump0619 (324581) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703851)

Well, there's only a million billion possibilities, but some highlights:

1) Haptic response (specifically for the keyboard)
2) Stereo bluetooth
3) Swappable battery
4) Geolocation (GPS, AGPS, tower triangulation, celestial navigation for all I care)
5) Non-AT&T
6) Use accelerometers for more than just view rotation...maybe press and hold home button for pan and zoom
7) Video recording

Most of these could be (or *are being*) accomplished with:
8) SDK for third party drivers/applications (solves 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, and maybe 7)

and maybe:
9) open source core drivers/applications (keyboard, Bluetooth stack, video) to kickstart #8

my list (1)

Srsen (413456) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703865)

I have had an iPhone for a couple of weeks. While it's almost a perfect device, there are a few minor things I'd like to see added:
  • 3G - EDGE is painfully slow
  • a VOIP client
  • a native IM client
  • voice memos - could be an add-on to the Notes app
  • games
  • a scientific calculator
  • true multiple calendar support in the Calendar app
  • "landscape" keyboard support in more apps
  • Blackberry support

Annotate pdf files using a stylus (1)

maynard (3337) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703873)

Some of us want to do work with the thing. Not even considering to buy until it serves a purpose.

what I'd like to see right now (1)

ed1park (100777) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703913)

is the ability to SMS groups and multiple people.
And copy and paste function would be nice along with the tilting/sideview for the email function like safari.

Any one have any solutions for the SMS problem? I hear you can use websites, but you gotta pay. What a pain...

Some functionality I want is: (1)

beef curtains (792692) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703923)

1) the ability to send a text message to more than one person at a time. If I'm meeting 7 people at the bar, I don't want to type & send "I'm at the bar, I got us a table in the back" 7 times.

2) the ability to forward a previously-sent text message to someone else.

3) drag-and-drop song/video transfers from iTunes (which is how iPods already work...I drag-and-drop songs from iTunes to my wife's 2nd-gen iPod nano all the time, so why can't I do the same thing with my iPhone?!).

4) the AutoCorrect functionality to be reversed - if I want to use the suggested word, I select the popup. Right now it's the other way around, which doesn't make sense.

5) the ability to change the order that in which phone numbers show up for a contact - for example, if I want "Work" to show up before "Home", I should be able to press "Edit" and move them around, the way I can move songs within an On The Go playlist.

6) to be able to specify which alerts I hear for new text messages, new e-mails, etc..

7) better native Gmail support.

8) a headphone jack that accepts most headphone cables without an adapter (seriously, would it be so bad to make the diameter of the recess in the case a few millimeters bigger?)

9) the damn thing to work with my Griffin iTrip Auto. Why is it incompatible? Was it necessary to make the iPhone's dock connector function differently than the iPod's, at least as far as audio output is concerned?

10) the option to turn off specific aspects of syncing...for example, I want it to sync contacts, calendar entries, songs, videos, and always backup e-mail & text messages, but I'd prefer to manually sync photos (I don't use the camera feature very often, so it's annoying to have iPhoto popup everytime I sync).

Unless there's something I don't know (which is very possible), I think these are all pretty reasonable requests that could easily be fixed in the next version. Hell, a lot of these are software-related and could be fixed for this version. I've never sent or received an MMS, but I see a lot of people calling for this functionality, so I guess it would be nice if they threw that in too.

As far as improvements, I'd love to see GPS & 3G. I know, I should join the club.

iphone 1.0 (1)

neuroPuff (923273) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703937)

The iphone just came out this summer - can't we just live in one generation at a time?

a cupholder (1)

JazzyMusicMan (1012801) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703989)

obviously it needs a cupholder, everything new and shiny does, damn, my $499 laptop brought a retractable one, and the iphone initially cost just as much or more!

Just Got an iPhone Last night... (1)

pjludlow (707302) | more than 6 years ago | (#20703991)

I got my iPhone last night, I was upgrading from a 4 year old sony erickson model (free with activation), so it is quite the upgrade. However after running it through a few things over the period of about half a day this is what I'm surprised isn't there.

No support for dragging/dropping a song/movie in iTunes. This was strange since I've been doing it for ages on an iPod. I now have to create a playlist, add my songs into that playlist, then sync the playlist to the iPhone. Too many steps in my opinion to add a few songs. Please make the behavior similar to the iPod.

Would like to have support to delete multiple emails at a time, and an option to delete all the emails in the trash at once. For some reason when adding my gmail account it loaded up all of my emails for the past 3 weeks (around 300) so I had to go and manually delete each of them. I'm not sure why it loaded so many as I had most of the conversations archived on my gmail account and there weren't many in my gmail inbox when the iPhone started retrieving them.

There has been some strange behavior connecting to WiFi routers. At my home it could see my network, and I typed my password since it was locked. After trying, the iPhone said it could not connect. After trying multiple times I ended up changing the security on my router to WEP from WPA and it worked. However my friend had the opposite problem and changed it from WEP to WPA and it did work for him. This could be a router issue, but I don't understand why my iPhone had problems when my mac didn't connecting to the same WiFi.

If you are talking to someone on the phone you cannot edit contact information. This is a pain since sometimes I am getting a new address or phone number that I need to add while I'm talking on the phone to someone. Wish this would be implemented.

Other than that I've been impressed with quite a few features I've stumbled across. I'm sure I'll find other things I'd like updated but I've only had it for less than a day.
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