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Intel Releases Mashups for the Masses

Zonk posted about 7 years ago | from the applying-data-to-the-situation-for-the-win dept.

The Internet 180

News_and_info writes "Intel has released an online tool called Mash Maker with the intent of allowing anyone to create mashups. They offer some training on how to use it, but the tool is fairly easy to use out of the gate. I see it more as a rudimentary semantic browser. From the article: 'Mashups have still not really penetrated the mainstream. My mother is not using mashup sites, and she is definitely not creating them. Even if there was a mashup out there that did exactly what she wanted, the chances are that she wouldn't know it existed, and would be confused by it if she tried to use it ... With Mash Maker, mashups are part of the normal browsing experience. As you browse the web, the Mash Maker toolbar displays buttons representing mashups that Mash Maker thinks you might want to apply to your current page.'"

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more info in the summary (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20720765)

what is a mashup for those of us who dont subscribe to all this web2.0 nonsense?

Re:more info in the summary (1)

rogutes (1141559) | about 7 years ago | (#20720899)

Re:more info in the summary (2, Informative)

Gnavpot (708731) | about 7 years ago | (#20721515)

Actually, the word "mashup" does not exist on any of those pages. But at least we now know that "mashup" has something to do with the semantic web.

Re:more info in the summary (4, Funny)

Simulant (528590) | about 7 years ago | (#20721153)

Not sure... Last month I thought it was sort of a remix using multiple songs. Something must have happened while I was on vacation.

Re:more info in the summary (0, Troll)

assassinator42 (844848) | about 7 years ago | (#20721791)

I say it's still a type of remix combining multiple songs. I demand Intel changes the name of whatever they're doing to something else.

Re:more info in the summary (1)

QMalcolm (1094433) | about 7 years ago | (#20721937)

Imagine how much the term 'remix' has been abused. The same is going to happen for 'mashup'. Musicians always get screwed when it comes to new terms!

Re:more info in the summary (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20721767)

Well... seing the video's in Quicktime on a Mac, i still have no idea as the video's itself are quite mashedup :):)

Guess their using a codec that's not so well known or so?

Re:more info in the summary (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20722021)

I don't know. But Cory Doctorow loves it, which means that it's smug and has bad hair.

Re:more info in the summary (1)

opusman (33143) | about 7 years ago | (#20722307)

Something Boing Boing keeps going on about, basically. That says all you need to know.

Re:more info in the summary (-1, Offtopic)

postmortem (906676) | about 7 years ago | (#20722399)

LADIKA DANILO (in contemplation) The Dragon see, with seven mantles red, Wielding two swords and crownèd with two crowns; Great-grandchild of the faithless Turk, with Koran! Behind him hordes of that accursèd breed, That they may devastate the whole wide earth, As locusts pestilent lay waste the fields! Had not the Rock of France its onrush curbed, Arabia's flood had surely deluged all! Osman - infernal dream - was monarch crown'd; The pale moon wedded, she his apple fair; From whom sprang Orkan, Europe's evil guest; And now Byzantium's realm is nothing more Than the youthful Theodora's dowry - The star of destiny hangs darkly over her. Now Paleologos bids Murat in, To bury in one grave both Greeks and Serbs. Their own ends sought both Brankovitch and Gerluka - Meet recompense Mohammed gave to Gerluka! From out far Asia where they have their nest, This Devil's brood doth gulp the nations up; Each day a nation, as night-owl takes bird: Murat takes Serbia, and Bosnia Bayazed; Murat Epirus, and Mohammed Greece; Then the two Selims Africa and Cyprus - Each takes something till nothing is there left! Dreadful the deeds that happen day by day; Too small is this wide world for Hell's great maw, Which, though feeding ever, never knows repletion! Yanko doth fight for Vladislaus dead; But why fight on when fighting gives not aid? Brave heart Obilitch beats in Skenderbeg, And yet he pines in pitiless exile. - But what can I! What helper is me nigh? We have but few strong arms; our strength is small; We are as wisps of straw tossed on the wind; As orphan'd sad, forsaken of the world, I see my people sleep a deadly sleep, No parent's hand to wipe away my tears; God's Heaven is shut above my head, Giving no answer to my cries and prayers. This world is now become a hell, And men but demons in disguise. Oh, dark, dark Day! oh, outlook ever black! My fearing folk held ever underfoot! Sure I have seen thy woe and all thine ill, Yet 'gainst the worst I now must set my will! When deadly wound is given in the head, The quivering frame doth painfully expire. Plague of mankind! May God make end of thee! Is half a world so small, to thee so small - A half-world filled with horror of thy deeds - That pois'nous stenches from thy demon soul Thou now must bring to spue upon our rock? Is it small offering - of Serbia the whole, From Danube river to the deep blue sea? Thy seat thou hast, all wickedly to ride; Thy blood-stained sceptre is thy boast and pride, From sacred altar thou insultest God, And where was outrag'd Cross dost rear a Mosque! - Our very shades and relics would'st defile, Those relics which to shelter men have brought, And screen'd amid to eternal hills, Dear shrines reminding of our heroes' deeds? These all have been o'erwhelmed in blood, A hundred times in thine, ten times ten in ours! The work of that accursed monarch see - He whom the devil teaches all things bad! - "This Montenegro, which I cannot tame, "By means or fair or foul shall own my name: "With it, on this wise must the method be." Thus spake the Devil's Sent One; the began Sweets of false faith to proffer unto man. The curse of God be on this brood unclean! What is the aim of Islam's creed 'mongst us? How will ye 'scape from our ancestors' curse? However dare 'fore Milosh to appear, Or how before each other Serbian knight, Whose names shall last while ever sun hath light? ... While pondering o'er this council for to-day, Hot horror burns within my soul: Shall brother brother ever thus war down; Shall not such strife so bloody and so long Destroy the very seed within the womb! O cursèd day! - may God blot out thy light - That thou didst bring me forth upon the world! Last year a hundred times I curs'd the hour Those Turks did fail to make an end of me, Lest I should falsify my people's hope. (Vuk Mitchunovitch, reclining near the Vladika, has feigned to be asleep, but has heard everything, and proceeds to arouse the Bishop to action, jerking Vladika with trenchant sentences from his purely contemplative poise.) VUK MITCHUNOVITCH If God thou knowest; Bishop 'tis not so! What miseries are these now come on thee, That thou should'st weep and wail with woman-soul, And sink beneath the waves of all our woe? Is not to-day a solemn festival, A day to counsel take with all thy people, That they may rid their land of Islam's yoke? Apasrt from that, our Slava falls to-day, When all our noblest youth do gather Their strength to test and put to trial their worth, Their biceps' power, the fleetness of their feet, And with the bow contending skill to show; Who best can strike the knife through roast ram's shoulder; To hear also the liturgy at Church, And round about the precinets dance the kolo; And chests expand in knightly exercise. Best incense this to every hero-soul, Forging in supple youth an iron heart! Banish, Bishop, all these black discourses; For men should bravely bear while women weep: What wailing chief e'er wrought his people's good! Thou art not chief without some good support: See these five hundred agile lads, What feats of manly strength and power Were on this field displayed to-day! Have they not winged the arrow to her mark? With what agility they played at grada! How nimbly all did catch the capitsa! Soon as wolf-cubs around the she-wolf sport, Full well they know in roughish gambols how Their teeth to

Re:more info in the summary (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20722605)

Don't post this shit on slashdot. Can mods mod parent down?

What's REALLY needed (5, Insightful)

Colin Smith (2679) | about 7 years ago | (#20720769)

Is to wire the balls of whoever thought up the word "mashup" to the mains supply and to shock them until they repent and take it back.


Re:What's REALLY needed (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20720979)

Yes. Use the electric probe things mentioned. No, not the happy kind, definitely not the happy kind.

Re:What's REALLY needed (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20720985)

What if that person is a girl and doesn't have balls you insensitive clod!

Re:What's REALLY needed (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20721253)

Then some cutting to gain access to the ovaries is required.

Re:What's REALLY needed (1)

SCHecklerX (229973) | about 7 years ago | (#20721015)

'Mashup' is far better than 'blog'. But, I still prefer "Web Page"

Re:What's REALLY needed (5, Funny)

springbox (853816) | about 7 years ago | (#20721103)

That didn't work for "podcast" ..

Re:What's REALLY needed (1)

StikyPad (445176) | about 7 years ago | (#20722633)

Or blog. Really? Vomiting sound? That's a word?

Re:What's REALLY needed (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20721703)

How the hell is this +5 Insightful??

Re:What's REALLY needed (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20722751)

How the hell is this +5 Insightful??
Well, the parent obviously recognizes the term as another one of those most annoying web buzzwords and provides a suitable way to possibly rectify the situation.

please type the word in this image: trembles

Re:What's REALLY needed (4, Funny)

GreyPoopon (411036) | about 7 years ago | (#20722127)

Is to wire the balls of whoever thought up the word "mashup" to the mains supply and to shock them until they repent and take it back.

Don't tase me, bro!

Re:What's REALLY needed (1)

Ant P. (974313) | about 7 years ago | (#20722355)

Oh come on, that's just nasty.

At least do it till they're sterile.

Re:What's REALLY needed (1)

Goaway (82658) | about 7 years ago | (#20722509)

There's nothing wrong with the word "mashup". It's a handy word for remixing several songs into one.

Didn't know IBM was into music, though.

Where "mashup" came from. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20722621)

mashup [] It's a DJ (discus jockious) term that refers to a form of remixing done by playing at least two different musical recordings (usually on analog vinyl discs) at the same time... blending them into one hybrid sound. The most well known example would be DJ Dangermouse's "The Grey Album" [] which combined The Beatles' White Album w/ Jay-Z's Black Album. Though that was produced in a studio, chopped up and remixed. Most of the time you're just going to be trying to beatmatch/blend two tracks on the fly using the pitch control on your pair of technics 1200 turntables. Some dude probably went to a club with some cooler friends and had his mind blown by some 80s track mixed w/ something he heard off of MTV; then decided to use that as a buzzword at work for his new project.

Re:What's REALLY needed (1)

Wiseman1024 (993899) | about 7 years ago | (#20722749)

True. The web is getting filled with crap from these "web 2.0 designers". Webcast, podcast, webinar, blog, blogosphere, and now mashup. Will the stupidity end?

The least bad thing about it is that I can safely skip all the stupid crap I don't understand -- it's going to be web 2.0 wankery anyways, so it's not a problem if I don't give a damn and stick to getting things done.

What's a "mashup"? (2, Insightful)

HateBreeder (656491) | about 7 years ago | (#20720799)

Besides, you'd expect something like this (Software Research) from Microsoft or Google... But Intel?!

Re:What's a "mashup"? (5, Funny)

427_ci_505 (1009677) | about 7 years ago | (#20720835)

Web technology flexibility amazes me. Now we can boil it, mash it, stick it in a stew...etc.

Re:What's a "mashup"? (1)

BorgCopyeditor (590345) | about 7 years ago | (#20721265)

"Boil 'em, mash 'em, stick 'em in a stew." Are you trying to sound like Samwise Gamgee?

Re:What's a "mashup"? (1)

427_ci_505 (1009677) | about 7 years ago | (#20722119)

Not just trying, boyo.

Re:What's a "mashup"? (1)

Movi (1005625) | about 7 years ago | (#20722587)

Sounds like a track from a Daft Punk album...

Re:What's a "mashup"? (1)

Pollardito (781263) | about 7 years ago | (#20722727)

and blend it, you forgot blend it

Re:What's a "mashup"? (4, Informative)

crush (19364) | about 7 years ago | (#20721105)

you'd expect something like this (Software Research) from Microsoft

The dude behind this (Rob Ennals) worked for SCO after training in a lab funded by Microsoft. []

Re:What's a "mashup"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20722379)

All we need now is for him to have invented AIDS or something like that...

Re:What's a "mashup"? (1)

lakiolen (785856) | about 7 years ago | (#20722529)

He worked for the SCO before it was bought by some other company that renamed themselves to SCO. SCO hasn't always been evil. They only turned that way after being bought by an evil company trolling for IP.

Re:What's a "mashup"? (1)

lakiolen (785856) | about 7 years ago | (#20722583)

Forgot to include the obligitory Wikipedia backing up evidence

In 1993, SCO acquired two smaller companies and developed the product line that was named Tarantella. In 2001, SCO sold its rights to Unix and the related divisions to Caldera Systems. After that the corporation retained only its Tarantella product line, and changed its name to Tarantella, Inc. Caldera subsequently changed its name to The SCO Group, which has created some confusion between the two companies. The company described here is the original Santa Cruz Operation. Although generally referred to simply as "SCO" up to 2001, it is now sometimes referred to as "old SCO" or "Santa Cruz" to distinguish it from "The SCO Group". []

Re:What's a "mashup"? (3, Informative)

Wiseman1024 (993899) | about 7 years ago | (#20722765)

Intel does a lot of research. They've researched video codecs, face recognition, complex optimizers, and similar technologies in the past. Their goal is to generate demand for faster processors, though it's more honourably done (research of useful technologies) than the usual (fill the next version of Windows with shit).

Abusable? (2, Insightful)

rancher dan 3 (960065) | about 7 years ago | (#20720821)

This seems like it's ripe for abuse by people trying to drive web traffic to their sites. If the signal to noise ratio doesn't get out of hand almost instantly, I'll be surprised.

Joyous Day! (4, Funny)

Jane Q. Public (1010737) | about 7 years ago | (#20720823)

Wow! Now I can have give me definitions of the names of all the streets in my town via Google Maps. Just what I need!

Legal issue.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20720851)

abusing sites this way can open you up to all sorts of legal problems. this is deep hyperlinking all over again... which is illegal btw....

Re:Legal issue.... (3, Funny)

Minwee (522556) | about 7 years ago | (#20721007)

Actually, saying that things are illegal when they aren't is illegal.

Re:Legal issue.... (2, Funny)

Zero__Kelvin (151819) | about 7 years ago | (#20721395)

"Actually, saying that things are illegal when they aren't is illegal."
Seems like you just broke the law in your little fantasy reality :-)

Re:Legal issue.... (1)

astrotek (132325) | about 7 years ago | (#20721139)

Deep links is such a non issue with modern web servers. Any modern sandbox implementation can deny people access to files that they shouldn't be looking at directly.

Mashups are... (5, Informative)

Dr. Stavros (808432) | about 7 years ago | (#20720855)

Karma-whoring Wikipedia-link explanation of mashups [] . Thanks!

Re:Mashups are... (3, Funny)

ystar (898731) | about 7 years ago | (#20720919)

You don't need wikipedia to whore karma this time. Imagine reading two or more websites at once, maybe even with some ajaxy instant messaging stuff, all kind of mixed together.

This is useful because you don't get excess cheeto dust in your keyboard by having to type in multiple URLs.

Re:Mashups are... (1)

Verteiron (224042) | about 7 years ago | (#20722571)

So, like tabbed browsing except more confusing?

Re:Mashups are... (5, Insightful)

glwtta (532858) | about 7 years ago | (#20721077)

That's what I love about Wikipedia - often you don't even need to read most of the text, just the quality of writing tells you everything you need to know.

"a Mashup is used in order to make a certain source of information exponentially more useful", translation: "complete bullshit; a nearly nonsensical term made up by some 14 year-old with a hard-on for MySpace".

I sure hope these Mashups will be all Web 2.0, and lets not forget to crowdsource some folksonomies, too.

Re:Mashups are... (1)

Non-Huffable Kitten (1142561) | about 7 years ago | (#20721359)

You beat me to it. At first I thought this would be interesting, since I find the semantic web an interesting idea.

Then the first sentence of the WP article contained the word "experience". I looked at the talk page to see whether someone called BS already. I gave the article another try. Then it came: "exponentially more useful". Thanks, that's all I needed to know, I won't touch this topic with a ten-foot pole again.

I've noticed... (3, Informative)

TerranFury (726743) | about 7 years ago | (#20721967)

Businesspeople have taken to using the phrases,

  • "exponentially"
  • "order of magnitude"

The problem is, none of them seem to know what either of the above actually mean...

Re:Mashups are... (1)

RealGrouchy (943109) | about 7 years ago | (#20721925)

Thanks Wikipedia.


- RG>

The "2.0" ness escapes more than newbies. (5, Interesting)

Chonine (840828) | about 7 years ago | (#20720891)

More power to those out there that edit wikis religiously, blog daily, use and create mashups, get their news through an RSS reader, can name their favorite 10 podcasts, share their Google calendars with their friends, have a FlickR and Delicious account, use 100 firefox plugins, and have an application-loaded Facebook among their many social networking sites - these can be some great tools with great utility to people.

But for some reason, this newfangled web doesn't seem to appeal to me, my friends, or anyone I know. I'm a Computer Science Masters student, and my friends work in industry. Am I backwards? Antiquated? Should I be mashing it up? I do it like I have for years - an xterm, an email app, an IM app, and a tabbed-to-the-hilt browser.

Re:The "2.0" ness escapes more than newbies. (4, Insightful)

Blackknight (25168) | about 7 years ago | (#20720927)

Sounds like most of the people I know. I think web 2.0 appeals to a younger crowd, seems to be mostly teenagers on those sites.

Re:The "2.0" ness escapes more than newbies. (1)

ceoyoyo (59147) | about 7 years ago | (#20721987)

Web 2.0, except for a couple of notable exceptions (like Google Maps) appeals mostly to a crowd who likes to waste time.

I've got a zillion "application" invites on Facebook to prove it. No practical use, every one.

Re:The "2.0" ness escapes more than newbies. (1)

Blackknight (25168) | about 7 years ago | (#20722067)

And who do you think has the time to waste? Kids.

Re:The "2.0" ness escapes more than newbies. (1)

Sancho (17056) | about 7 years ago | (#20722485)

Honestly, I'd suspect that it's more like an old dog not interested in learning new tricks. Web 2.0 has a large social aspect. It's about communicating when you aren't in person (like IRC, only flashier.) It's about getting the information you want out of a website and ignoring the chaff.

To take an example from the grandparent post, RSS is a great tool for keeping up on website content. Rather than going to every site you wish to keep up with, every day (this includes news sites, not just fluff), you can check one place to see if there is any updated content. If there is updated content, you can scan headlines to see if they're worth reading. If any are worth reading, then you can go to the article. It's honestly a pretty big time saver if you visit any websites regularly.

Another example, Wikipedia (specifically editing it) is akin to volunteer work. It's about helping your community. It may not appeal to you, but that doesn't mean that there isn't value in it.

Flikr is just a filedump. Yeah, you can comment on the photos, but realistically, it's a place to put your photos so that other people can see them. I'm not surprised that it doesn't appeal to everyone. I only visit it when someone puts a slideshow of their vacation or their kids up there.

Anyway, it's just new stuff. New ways of publishing and consuming information.

Re:The "2.0" ness escapes more than newbies. (3, Insightful)

sarahbau (692647) | about 7 years ago | (#20720981)

Same with me. I hadn't even heard of a mashup before. I had to look it up to find out what this news post was talking about. I really don't understand the point of most of this Web 2.0 stuff, but some people seem to like it.

Re:The "2.0" ness escapes more than newbies. (3, Insightful)

grommit (97148) | about 7 years ago | (#20721013)

Just keep doing your own thing. There's always going to be people that want to be a part of the "Next Big Thing" and are more than willing to bash the rest of us over the head with how great it is. Personally I, much like you, prefer a few simple apps that get minor refinements from time to time and just get my work done while MashRails and RubyUps and so on burn brightly for a few months only to be replaced by the "Next Big Thing."

Re:The "2.0" ness escapes more than newbies. (3, Insightful)

Myopic (18616) | about 7 years ago | (#20721191)

Yeah I agree. I have my CS degree and I love my internet, but I came of web-age in 1997, 8 and 9, so I like email and web pages more than the techs that have come out to replace them.

Social networking sites are starting to grow on me, but only a tiny bit. I do love podcasts, because ever since I was a child I thought TV with commercials, no pause/record/playback, and on someone else's schedule was folly. Some people call them podcasts, I just call them radio: now I listen to my radio/tv from a menu (the menu on my iPod) instead of from a guide (the TV Guide).

RSS feeds are pretty sweet but frankly not sweet enough for me to go out and discover on my own, so I appreciate ones that come to me for free (specifically, Firefox's RSS news link). My calendar hangs on my wall, and I find that more convenient than any computer calendar I've ever found, but that's probably because I'm a simple guy and don't need to schedule more than a couple things on any given day, at most. I can understand the benefit of a Google Calendar to people who are very busy and need to coordinate with lots of other people. Also, for egoists.

Same with Flickr. I love my digicam but I don't have much of a compulsion to show my pics to the rest of the world. They're on my own site, they're not hidden or anything, but I don't need to share them actively.

I never got into chat either. I've used it as a tool and it's okay, but I much prefer email because it is non-live. I like audio chat when it works with something else I'm doing. For instance, when I play card games online (I like euchre), I can audio chat with the other participants, and that improves the experience.

Web 2.0 stuff is pretty compelling. Google Maps is the bomb (true that, double true). I appreciate the more complex and compelling interfaces offered on the web today. There was a time in 2000, 2001 and thereabouts where companies were putting all kinds of applications on the web, but the web wasn't up to the task, so we were all doing things on the web that we should have been doing on desktop apps. Now things are a lot better. My bank's website has animated windows that fade in and out and overlap, and it's an interface just about as compelling as any desktop app I've used.

This is trite and perhaps obvious, but one thing the internet is fantastically perfect for is... porn. My god, what if we all still had to go out and walk to a porno theatre to see stag films? That would be terrible.

Re:The "2.0" ness escapes more than newbies. (5, Insightful)

klenwell (960296) | about 7 years ago | (#20721331)

But for some reason, this newfangled web doesn't seem to appeal to me, my friends, or anyone I know.

I hear you. I actually had an idea the other day that I thought would be perfect for Yahoo Pipes. The thing was, the web page that was the source for the key data to be mashed-up, though a classic HTML data table, didn't offer an RSS feed. And Pipes doesn't seem to offer even the most basic page scraping utility. (If it does, I couldn't find it.)

After playing around with Yahoo Pipes for a half-hour trying to make it work, I realized that with my knowledge of PHP, I could do this just as easily on my own. And have much more control over the process and end product.

The conclusion I came to: anyone who is capable of imaginatively using these tools is probably more than capable of just rolling their own mashup using open-source scripting tools. I don't imagine most ordinary users are going to be able to create anything more inventive than a regurgitated RSS feed.

Please correct me if I'm wrong. Anyone have any interesting examples of something produced with this kind of pre-packaged mashup tool?

Re:The "2.0" ness escapes more than newbies. (1)

oblique303 (848812) | about 7 years ago | (#20722669)

Here are some screencasts of some pretty neat stuff being produced with a mashup tool:

Combining and People Search []

Adding Better-Business-Bureau Reports to Yahoo Yellow Pages Listings []

Adding 10-day Weather Forecast to Google Homepage []

These mashups weren't made with MashMaker, but another competing mashup tool [] .

Re:The "2.0" ness escapes more than newbies. (1)

heinousjay (683506) | about 7 years ago | (#20721383)

You know, I could probably visit any retirement home in the world and roll up a bunch of old people who will tell you that computers are useless and stupid. Would that parallel help back up your argument?

Re:The "2.0" ness escapes more than newbies. (2, Insightful)

krbvroc1 (725200) | about 7 years ago | (#20721621)

You know, I could probably visit any retirement home in the world and roll up a bunch of old people who will tell you that computers are useless and stupid. Would that parallel help back up your argument?
I don't think its really a fair comparison. The issue here is not technology versus a non-technology generation. It is an evolution of companies trying to package what used to require more thought/skill/programming/configuration into something that is a simple tool for the masses. It a layer of abstraction that seems to be more hype than anything. The problem with a lot of this stuff is that by adding extra layers of abstraction the users of the technology forget/never learn what is really going on behind the scenes.

Re:The "2.0" ness escapes more than newbies. (1)

Sancho (17056) | about 7 years ago | (#20722511)

If you're a programmer, you shouldn't complain about this. It just means that when the time comes to customize something like this, you'll have a better chance at getting the job :)

Re:The "2.0" ness escapes more than newbies. (2, Interesting)

geekgirlandrea (1148779) | about 7 years ago | (#20721555)

Same here (well, I use RSS). I still use a pretty minimalist fvwm config to run Firefox, xterm and emacs, and that's about it. I just don't get how most of this "Web 2.0" stuff is supposed to different from, you know, hypertext like we were all doing in about 1995.

Re:The "2.0" ness escapes more than newbies. (1)

Threni (635302) | about 7 years ago | (#20721839)

> But for some reason, this newfangled web doesn't seem to appeal to me, my friends, or anyone I know. I'm a Computer Science Masters student, and my
> friends work in industry. Am I backwards? Antiquated?

We're developers. Mashups and all that WEB 2.0 bollocks is for the other lot. You know...users...

+5 Insightful (1)

TuringTest (533084) | about 7 years ago | (#20722117)

Sorry I don't have mod points today. You seem to be the only one on this whole thread that happens to, actually, get it.

so.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20720901)

Did that demo video give anyone else an instant headache?

Firefox only (4, Interesting)

Animats (122034) | about 7 years ago | (#20720973)

Note that it's Firefox-only. No Internet Explorer support.

Intel has lately started to move into Microsoft's space. Microsoft used to object when Intel did much with software on mainstream platforms, and Intel used to back off. Intel isn't backing off any more. Interesting.

Re:Firefox only (1)

Bieeanda (961632) | about 7 years ago | (#20721159)

That's particularly funny, given that the example videos on the site are WMV. I don't know about anyone else, but getting WMV files to play through Firefox is like pulling teeth.

Re:Firefox only (1)

Teun (17872) | about 7 years ago | (#20721329)

As I've never had much of a problem watching WMV in FF and Linux I went to the site, it's caved in...
Maybe it's hard on the servers too :)

Re:Firefox only (2, Interesting)

allcar (1111567) | about 7 years ago | (#20721927)

This gives me wood! A massive commercial outfit like Intel producing stuff for FF only is really exciting. As an enterprise Web Developer, I know how much easier it is to develop for one browser only (especially if that browser is standards compliant (ie: not IE)) and this may well be just laziness on behalf of Intel's devs. Anyway, more power to their elbows.

Re:Firefox only (3, Funny)

jez9999 (618189) | about 7 years ago | (#20722393)

Note that it's Firefox-only.
This gives me wood!
This tells us all we need to know about you.

Good reason for that (1)

Gonoff (88518) | about 7 years ago | (#20722303)

There will be a larger number of IT tinkerers running Firefox than IE. Most IE users run it because they think it is "the internet". Anyone who has had the initiative to install FF or actually run a different operating system will be much more likely to give this a try.

WTF is a mashup? (5, Insightful)

noidentity (188756) | about 7 years ago | (#20721029)

Article summary could have had a few extra words summarizing what a "mashup" is. To me it sounds like what I do with my potatoes before I eat them.

Re:WTF is a mashup? (4, Funny)

LighterShadeOfBlack (1011407) | about 7 years ago | (#20721585)

From TFA:

Mashups [allow] us to transform the Internet from being a collection of separate website islands, into a unified intelligence in which knowledge from one web site can be automatically combined with knowledge from another.
...uhh... so now you know.

I smell synergy.

Re:WTF is a mashup? (1)

rhizome (115711) | about 7 years ago | (#20721825)

I smell synergy.

I don't know about that, I couldn't find any key stakeholders in TFA.

Re:WTF is a mashup? (2, Informative)

acoster (812556) | about 7 years ago | (#20721589)

Mashup = Buzzword for "site that mixes contents from more than one site".

Re:WTF is a mashup? (1)

techno-vampire (666512) | about 7 years ago | (#20721831)

That's just what we need: a way to create even more webpages that have no original content whatsoever.

WTF is a Portal? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20721971)

Hey, you leave Slashdot out of this! :)

Re:WTF is a mashup? (1)

kaizokuace (1082079) | about 7 years ago | (#20722205)

yea but its liek potatoes with bits of fried up bacon in it. neither the potatoes nor the bacon had planned to be in the same dish but you made it happen!

lol wut (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20721067)

> Intel Releases Mashups for the Masses

So is Slashdot the new BoingBoing?

the truth is (5, Insightful)

pair-a-noyd (594371) | about 7 years ago | (#20721113)

older folks such as myself don't use this mashup crap because it sounds STUPID.
The name alone implies that it's some sort of hap-hazardly created frankenstein stuff that 10 year olds create.
The name does not indicate at all, in any way what a mashup is or does.

It just sounds stupid and totally un-professional.

No, I'm not trolling, this isn't flamebait, I'm giving MY take on it from the perspective of someone near 50 years old.

Why not call this stuff, what ever it is, by a name that gives people a sense of what it's about?

Re:the truth is (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20721311)

A mash-up never does any useful work nor contains any useful content itself. It's just a parasitic combination of two or more existing web services or databases that other people and companies put a lot of hard work and time into developing. Usually mash-ups are programmed by 10-to-17-year-olds who are trying out Ruby on Rails for the first time. Because they serve the higher purpose of inspiring people to learn to program, they are generally a good thing.

Re:the truth is (0)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about 7 years ago | (#20721373)

older folks such as myself don't use this mashup crap because it sounds STUPID.

That's because you're too busy using email.

The name alone implies that it's some sort of hap-hazardly created frankenstein stuff that 10 year olds create.

Welcome to Web 2.0. Now don't go telling anybody else about this.

The name does not indicate at all, in any way what a mashup is or does.

You must be new here....

No, I'm not trolling, this isn't flamebait, I'm giving MY take on it from the perspective of someone near 50 years old. Why not call this stuff, what ever it is, by a name that gives people a sense of what it's about?

If you're truly in the demographic you describe, you can't tell me you've not played with this [] . Lighten up, give the kids a chance. We had ours and look what we did with it.

Re:the truth is (2, Insightful)

crush (19364) | about 7 years ago | (#20721385)

Yahoo has a nicer name: Pipes [] . Admittedly it's just a straightforward rip-off of the UNIX concept, but it's more expressive of what's happening really. Someone pointed out that the whole Web2.0 thing is just taking whatever good CLI stuff worked nicely and slapping a webpage interface on top of it. So:
  • email --> GMail, YahooMail, Hotmail
  • chaining commands through pipes --> mashups
  • usenet --> webforums

Re:the truth is (2, Informative)

zullnero (833754) | about 7 years ago | (#20721861)

It does have its uses.

For example, when I was looking for my current apartment, I wanted to see all available apartments on craigslist that were within sane walking distance from where I worked. By mashing up google maps and craigslist, you get a pushpins on the map type of view, without having to grab 30 or so and search them individually. Saved me a lot of time and a heck of a lot of web searches.

One could apply the same thing to trying to find the closest veterinarian, closest hospital, bike repair shop, etc. Closest shoe store that sells some line of shoes that you like. Heck, you could take that and combine it with Cityguide/Citysearch descriptions or reviews, and you could make an interactive nightlife map a whole lot faster, and with probably a lot less plagiarism, than making one from scratch.

It's just a way of tying together various services and making something that serves a more specific purpose. That's all it is. There's no reason to whine about how the world is leaving you behind.

what the hell ?!? (1)

unity100 (970058) | about 7 years ago | (#20721175)

"my mother" "mashup" "tools" "mashup bars" "intel release" "mashup here, mashup there" "mash the mashing mash up" .....

your mother's mashup with what tools ? and intel ? what kind of slashdot pos is this ?

dont play games with /.ers' minds in the dead of the night.

Mashup security (1)

Rastafario (1083239) | about 7 years ago | (#20721221)

All it takes is one malicious content source for a mashup site's security to be compromised.

Advice to users, stay away from mashups unless you trust its makers ensure third party content is 100% safe.

If you do end up using a mashup site, make sure that you observe all safe browsing tips, especially logging out of you web mail/banking services before entering.

buzzzzzz wordsssss (1)

Sczi (1030288) | about 7 years ago | (#20721237)

Slashdot and Fark are the closest thing I need to a mashup. The second my life gets so complicated that I need 18 web site portions shoehorned into the next frankenstein's monster, that will be the day I move to the country and open a bakery.

Coincidentally, the day the computers can read what we're looking at and know us well enough to offer an even remotely successful guess at what comes next will be the day the computer decides it doesn't need me anymore. And I think we all know what happens when the computers decide they don't need us anymore.

And while I still have a bad attitude, I'll add that I'm getting tired of kids thinking they "made something". Listen, kid, did you actually make ANYTHING on that page? Besides the poorly written prose reflecting on whether or not Vanilla Ice really can dance better than any Kidd or Play, your page mostly looks like a combination of non-anti-aliased animated gifs that clash with your background and a few youtube videos that you didn't write, film, produce, rip, or even upload yourself, and only 50/50 chance you even found it yourself. Well job, newb, well job. Nevermind that you contributed maybe a fraction of a fraction of a percent of the total time it took to create that page.

Sorry for the ot in the third p, I'm still a little upset after being eye-raped by some myspace pages at work last week and then being told mine sucks because it's too plain. Heh, elegant simplicity, young padawan. Wisdom comes from typing less and reading more.

They did the mash... (4, Funny)

Chris Mattern (191822) | about 7 years ago | (#20721447)

...they did the website mash
The website mash
It was a network smash!

Chris Mattern

We did it! (5, Funny)

redcaboodle (622288) | about 7 years ago | (#20721529)

We actually slashdotted Intel.

Re:We did it! (1)

i.of.the.storm (907783) | about 7 years ago | (#20722203)

Next Microsoft, then Google, and then The Internets!!111

Re:We did it! (1)

Pollardito (781263) | about 7 years ago | (#20722781)

i think you mean mash[up]dotted

Mashup: Opentable and Zagat (1)

MBraynard (653724) | about 7 years ago | (#20721663)

Those two are the ones I notice a lot of jumping back and forth from, but any such 'mashup' would have to be approved by both parties.

I get the sense that if there is a large population of people who desire a site with a common set of features from two different sites one of those sites would simply add them on their own. Otherwise a third party would wind up simply ripping off the other's content.

Another mashup platform also released this week (1)

oblique303 (848812) | about 7 years ago | (#20721751)

Orchestr8 [] also released its personal mashup platform this past week, AlchemyPoint [] . It's similar to MashMaker in some ways but also offers a bunch of capabilities MashMaker doesn't, like the ability to visually scrape or cut-and-paste [] web content, even dynamic content (search results, etc.). The tool was reviewed favorably on Mashable [] earlier this week.

cock-ups and mashups (1)

themushroom (197365) | about 7 years ago | (#20721991)

Just when you thought Java and Flash banner ads, streaming audio/video imbedded, and other cruft out the arse made so many pages out there look overbusy and poorly arranged... enter mashups! Woohoo, look out MySpace, you're gonna get even more garbage-filled pages!

I had to look the word up. I was pretty sure this wasn't about combining two different artists' songs into one funky unit.

My Life (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20722165)

Hihi! My name is Iyoshi Miasaki and I love turkey. I wear a pretty pink and black polk a dot skirt with stripped yellow and blue leggings. It's HOTT! I don't know what kind of top to wear with that. Any suggestions? Other than that....I like really big hot dogs too. I'm trying to lose three pounds. Although it's hard when you're a thick madame. I love taking short walks with my kitty. I call my kitty 'Kitten' it suits her. My puppets name is Mr. Fingers. He's a blast to play with. We watch foreign films together and sometmes he joins me in the bath. He floats. I think he enjoys it. Kitten doesn't ever like the bath. She just looks at us and moans. I thow her Mr. Fingers sometimes, and she likes him, I think he may like it. It's fun to be tickled! OK well to sum things up here....I'm pretty happy with my life the way things are. I need to make a new friend. I'm up for any suggestions on a new puppet name. I want a girlfriend. To play dress up and have tea time with. Mr. Fingers might like her. They can have pleasures. Maybe make babies. I will be grams. Oh treats.

Love, Iyoshi

Mash Maker thinks (1)

SlashV (1069110) | about 7 years ago | (#20722241)

As you browse the web, the Mash Maker toolbar displays buttons representing mashups that Mash Maker thinks you might want to apply to your current page.
Mash Maker thinks ?? I prefer not to let my computer do my thinking for me. It's like asking it for a cup of tea. You know it's gonna give you something that is almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea !

Excuse me ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20722599)

What in the fuck is a mashup ?
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