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Y2K Rollover - Post Your Experiences Here!

Roblimo posted more than 14 years ago | from the live-from-the-front dept.

News 719

fredm8 writes "Since the Slashdot article, When Does Y2K Begin, New Zealand has experienced the Y2K rollover. Yes the power still works, the water still flows, my Windows98 PC still runs, my Linux box rocks, and my supported *nix boxes still run." We're getting lots of stories like this one submitted. We might as well have them all in one place, so please post yours below instead of sending it in as a story submission. This thread ought to make an interesting chronicle of Y2K events -- or non-events, as the case may be.

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Computers still running? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1429203)

Yes, but it's not midnight GMT yet. Similarly, I don't expect anyone to be Raptured until then. 7PM EST! I'll be eating dinner when that happens.

Y2k != millenium (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1429204)

Y2k != millenium

the NZ power outage (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1429205)

Actually, according to the US ABC network, NZ *did* have an outage--but it was a temporary thing due to a strong wind :)

Then again, ABC also talked about "welcoming in the second millenium"... I knew they couldn't count when they kept claiming that the new millenium starts in 2000, but I thought they could at least count to 3. Or wait, maybe they consider the first one the "0th" millenium, eh?

Re:Server b0rked (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1429206)

Hehe. I am never buying a Swiss watch again.

Damn daylight savings time! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1429208)

I live in Brisbane, and because Queensland doesn't have daylight savings time, Sydney celebrated it all first even though it's further east here!

Humph! Always knew that daylight savings thing was evil... :-)

Re:Y2k == millenium damnit! (troll) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1429209)

Ok, on the OLD calendar yes, but on the CURRENT calendar (Common Era) 2000 is in the new millenium since on the CE calendar there is a year zero. So there! :-)

Re:Y2k != millenium (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1429210)

I have heard others say that this is not a new millenium. Can anyone explain to me why this is not going to be a new millenium. I have posted this anonymously to avoid showing my ignorance ;-)

Re:oh yea, first post of the millenium (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1429211)

The southeast part of Australia is now about half an hour after midnight. No major obvious problems yet. But i haven't had a close look at the Windows boxes yet. Also there could be minor problems at 11am local time because a lot of stuff runs GMT. And i was here at 10pm local time to see if New Zealand disappeared off the map, just to get 2 hours early warning :-)

Re: SURE they were! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1429212)


millenium != millennium (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1429213)


Re:Y2k != millenium (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1429214)

Y2K + 1 = new Millennium Basicly when they came up with the Christian Calender that most of the world follows, they didn't start with year 0. Instead it would have been Jan 1, Year 1. So a thousand years would have put the new millennium starting at Year 1001 and a thousand years after that would be 2001 or the start of the next millenium. So what most people are actually celebrating is the start of the last year of this millennium. Happy not the new Millennium!

bummer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1429215)

Does this mean I cant loot the vending machines here at work tonight??? That was the only things I was looking foreward to... Bummer!! Sitting in a room with 16 server racks, and changing DLT tapes to get 4 backups of everything for NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh well, at least I get to set up the corperate overhead projector screen to watch the ball drop on a 20' screen :-) Who says you cant take advantage of technology in corperations!!!

Help! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1429216)

Civilization.. Collapsing! Rioters.. everywhere! Wounded.. by.. rabid.. Hemos..!

Light growing.. brighter.. Beam me up.. God..

ISSUE: Posted AT the roll: ORACLE DBMS_JOB (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1429217)

NOTE: 93696.1
LAST UPDATED: 31 DEC 1999 12.05 P.M. GMT

see http://metalink.oracle.com (if you have access) Note the date and time of the note (5 minutes after GMT+12)

When a dbms_job is submitted, the current nls environment (in particular
nls_date_format) is bound to the job permanently. This is done by populating
the nls_env column of dba_jobs. If an invalid date format was in place when
the job was submitted then subsequent job executions may run into problems
if the procedure being executed contains date logic.

This will not effect the scheduling of jobs of when they are executed, but may
cause problems during execution.

This may get people who have recurring jobs that have not been re-created since they moved to a Y2K compliant NLS_DATE_FORMAT. I suspect anyone who did a rollover test would have caught this already, but the (late) timing of this alert does worry me a little.

I understand that this is not actually a bug in oracle's RDBMS. You do not need to explain that to me.

New Zealand Y2k - Buhh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1429218)

I hit refresh and it's back down to 1... what was that all about?

Uh-oh! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1429219)

Here in Melbourne, the Linux box on my desk at work appears to have died. No idea why at the moment -- I'll go in tomorrow to check it.

All the other linux severs are fine, though (as I expected they would be).

please, let me say it (rtsctsAThotmail.com) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1429220)


I'm in Sydney and it's: Sat Jan 1 00:49:51 EST 2000. Everything is still working just fi#$&%@#$!

Y10K (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1429221)

Meanwhile no one is working on fixing the Y10K bug.


Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1429222)

I work for major credit card company, and all of our Asian servers are fuckin crashing. HOLY SHIT! Some transactions are being recorded with 19100 dates. We're running out of time. THE WORLD IS GOING TO END. REPENT YOUR SINS!

Re:Y2k != millenium (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1429223)

  • 2000 is not the new millennium because there was no year 0
  • 2001 is not the new millennium because christ was not born on 1/1/1
  • January 1st (any year) is not the millennium because days have been added and removed throughout time.
I am sure there are more that I have forgotton. Anyway, I say celebrate 2000 cause it is a nice round figure or celebrate every possible date.

Vogon Constructor fleet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1429224)

You'll need this fish in your ear ...

http://www.swissinfo.net/cgi/worldtime/clock.pl?Au (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1429225)

http://www.swissinfo.net/cgi/worldtime/clock.pl?Au ckland,New=Zealand

Wow, your Amiga has a clock?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1429226)

Damn..mine still thinks its 1978. Well, it always did, so no problem there.

Re:It's not the millennium! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1429227)


Could you be a more cynical bastard?

You sure told us, oh omnipowerful righteous boy.

I fear thee.


Celebrations around the world (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1429228)

This is a pretty cool link [cnn.com] to what the rest of the world are doing. (cept for programmers who are celebrating in their offices)

Seems Saudi Arabia isn't partying though:

Saudi Arabia has banned all New Year's celebrations.

"Celebrating the holidays of the infidels is not allowed, even if it's out of courtesy," said Sheik Abdullah bin Jabrain, a member of the Saudi Islamic legal committee.

Re:Y2K yes, New Millenium NO (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1429229)

God damn. You are so right. That's the best argument I've ever heard against the cynical, preaching, perfectionist, "it's not the new millennium; I'm smarter than you cause I know this," crap that people keep spitting out.

Thank you.

Re:As a matter of fact... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1429230)

Just wait... the real computers use GMT, not localtime.

The real Y2K starts at GMT, so that would be 19:00 SST (Slashdot Standard Time.) This is the real time to start popping the tops of those beer bottles.

New Zealand Power did go out... In part... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1429458)

I live in Auckland, New Zealand in a suburb called Remuera where the power went out at 9pm for a couple of hours - not y2K though, a car hit a power poll and took out the suburb's power until a new poll was installed. My GSM Digital mobile still works fine, and so does the TV and my home pc which is (for reasons that shall remain confidential) still running windows 95. However, due to the above mentioned power cut, it was powered down at the turn of midnight. Still, after the champagn breakfast in the morning I'll head to the office and see if the NT or Linux servers need re-booting.... Bets are that NT will... Still, NZ survived the turn of the Mil ok...

New Zealand Y2k (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1429459)

http://www.y2k.govt.nz/home/Navigati onpage.htm [y2k.govt.nz] supposedly has relatively up-to-date info on Y2k troubles in New Zealand...
Currently up to four incidents (up from the one water station a few hours ago)... and the map still thinks it's 9 seconds to midnight- wonder if that's a bug, or a precautionary measure?

In the true spirit of procrastination, I head out in a few hours to install some compliant billing software... and the man in charge just told me he'd like to see that office network wired to the internet before the end of the day... Had to pick the worst day of the year to want it done, and I know jack about firewalling or IP masqing and don't intend to learn while doing something that actually has to stand up under fire.


P.S. - Someone tell me why that space appears in the link text when it's not in the entry field- and why it DOESN'T appear in the actual HREF..?

Why There's No Year Zero... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1429460)

The number zero was introduced, along with the Arabic numerals we use today, in the 13th century, but the church refused to allow them to be used, simply on the grounds that they were invented by Muslims.

However, zero and the numbering system we use today did eventually make it into acceptance by the 16th century, and greatly simplified mathematics in Europe.

We can't really blame the church for 2000/2001 issue, because the current year numbering system that we used (2BC, 1BC, 1AD,...) was originally designed by a monk in either the 7th or 8th century, before we even heard of the Arabic numbering system or zero.

Y2K rror (2)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1429466)

I'v found that for som r ason my comput r is no long r abl to print out th l tt r " ". And wh n I s t my syst m tim back to 12/31...
it once again works! Unbelievable! Well, I'll just have to keep rolling back the date, I guess.

Server b0rked (1)

xpurple (1227) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429484)

Check this link
http://swissinfo.net/cgi/worldtime/clock.pl? Chatham,New=zealand
The server seems to have a small problem with the date change

Re:19100?? (2)

bjb (3050) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429498)

Obviously a Perl script written by a programmer who didn't RTFM!

For those who don't know, perl gives you back a year value which is the number of years SINCE 1900. Therefore, you calculate your year with $year = $perlYear + 1900; .. they probably just did "print '19$perlYear';"



Re:19100?? (1)

thulldud (4406) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429506)

Yeah, I had a couple of scripts that did that. I had said something like:

printf( "%s%02d", $cent, $year )

The variable $cent contained either "19" or "20", depending on the value of $year. Looked fine, but when you get to y2k, that thing prints "19100". Ugh. RTFM time. Now it's like this:

printf( "%d", ( $year + 1900 ) )

Not the first time I have felt as stupid as a brick. But it made me feel a little better yesterday when the support team called me in a panic because they found the reference to "1900" in those scripts, "Oh, no! Hard-coded century! Fear! Fire! Foes! Awake!!"

I should have told them I had had to change it because it infringed the "windowing" patent >:-P

Re:Server b0rked (2)

Vivek (4851) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429511)

Not strictly true, actually it's the underlying C localtime (or gmtime call), or rather
the definition of 'struct tm' in time.h [or equivalent], on which the return list from localtime/gmtime is based. It could be written in C, or Perl, or just about anything that uses struct tm or a data structure based on it.

Well, all is sweet so far in NZ... (3)

Colitis (8283) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429531)

Coming up 3am and doubtless a few other countries now have had midnight come and go without the world collapsing in a chaotic heap of doom. Come 2000/01/01 12:00:01 the power was still on, TV still broadcasting (although after a few minutes of the moron they had doing the presentation I was starting to wish the TVNZ studios would have a localised Y2K power problem), just checked and water is still flowing from the taps (I don't need to go wee-wee or poo-poo just now so I'll take it on faith that the sewage system is still working). My main Linux box is running and knows what time it is, Internet connectivity is fine, ssh'ed to work and all the servers are up and know what time it is, the work web site is happy as Larry etc. Haven't turned on the other PC or the Amiga yet. Will be interesting to see what the SparcStation 2 running non-Y2K-compliant SunOS 4.1.3 does when I try booting it up...

Oh, in other news, I might've been on track for the first road accident of the new millenium when I found myself going sideways on a *very* slippery corner on a wet and windy road coming home a couple of hours ago. Managed to straighten up safely though, would have been heaps of fun if I'd done it deliberately :-)

Of course it's the new millenium tonight. (1)

bbcat (8314) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429532)

Apparently the morons who started to count the
years since christ didn't know about the number
zero and started to count at one.
Following their way the years would be from
1-2000 to get 2000 complete years.
On the other hand they also didn't know how to
count as they screwed up by 4 or 5 years or even
Considering that nowadays many of us know how
to count we ignore this bullshit and count
correctly and yes the new millenium starts

The power is down here in Oslo, Norway.. (1)

vr (9777) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429539)

.. but it only affects the subway and trams, and the rumours say that it has nothing to do with Y2K. Anyway; we haven't crossed midnight here yet. ;-)

Re:Y2K yes, New Millenium NO (1)

vr (9777) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429540)

Ah.. yes, well. We already know this (most of us anyway). BUT! We do not care!

Let us celebrate in peace. Don't bother us about small technicalities.


It's not the millennium! (1)

TomG (9985) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429541)

No, you have not been the first person to ring in the new millennium.
You have not been the first person to scream happy new millenium.
You have not been the first person to send new millennium e-mail.
You weren't the first to check your phone line and your computers for millennium downtime.
You didn't make the millennium's first fart.
You didn't crack the first joke of the new millennium.
You did _not_ make the first slashdot post of the new millennium.
You were not the first of the new millenium to turn off the main power switch as a practical joke.


Re:Y2K yes, New Millenium NO (1)

Geek In Training (12075) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429552)

I'd just like to remind everyone that while it IS, obviously, the year 2000, with all the inherent problems that may/may not cause, it is NOT the new millenium. So can we, as supposedly intelligent people, stop with the propagation of all this "first * of the millennium" crud.

Gee, that gives you a whole 'nother year to learn how to spell MILLENNIUM! :) Yay!

/set trollmode off


First Y2K issue, where no man has gone before.. (4)

eshefer (12336) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429553)

according to [cnet.com]
this story on News.com, Startrek- voyeger's web site claims that the next episode will be aired.. 99 years and 364 days ago.

check it out here. [startrek.com]

(and it's running a ASP script... why isn't this suprising?)


Re:oh yea, first post of the millenium (1)

Cadaver (12501) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429555)

We didn't drop off the map. Although if we had, I probably wouldn't have noticed at the time...

Listening on the IOPS bridge (1)

Uriel (16311) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429576)

This is a big conference call/telephone bridge. AT&T, Sprint, AOL, UUNet, Earthlink, Cisco, etc etc etc..

Nothing actually happened in the call of technical import, but the following quotes were pretty funny:

"But we really don't think that's Y2K-related, being as Germany is still in 1999, right?"
"Not Germany, Jamaica."
"What about that cable problem in Japan?"
"No, it's not in JAPAN, it's in JAMAICA."

Re:19100?? (1)

demi (17616) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429583)

Well, perl hands you whatever it got in its
struct tm, which is the number of years since 1900
(point being it isn't perl-specific, this is a
feature of standard unix date-handling routines). So it's not necessarily a perl script.

pretty boring really... (1)

DJPenguin (17736) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429584)

Well I'm in a hotel in Dusseldorf keeping an eye on CNN and wishing I could have a drink tonight. I'm supposed to be here in case of y2k problems with our systems but all that's happened so far is that I've realised just how bad CNN actually is... and I can't get BBC here!

Re:19100?? (1)

Gerund (17746) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429585)

I'd say the program is just prepending "19" to a date that starts from year 00 == 1900, but isn't limited to 2 date digits, so 2000 == year 100, and with "19" prepended, you get 19100. Someone really made a mess of the seconds-since-epoch date system here.

Re:First Y2K issue, where no man has gone before.. (1)

Quarters (18322) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429588)

Is ASP as date hobbled as JavaScript? JS gets the 4 digit date from your system clock and then automatically subtracts 1900 from it before it puts it into a variable for your use.

IE Homepage is down (2)

GC (19160) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429592)

My IE homepage [msn.co.uk] is currently down with ERROR 312.

Perhaps this is a Y2K problem.

Well done Micros~1 :)

UK Government Y2K-monitoring website (2)

Stephen (20676) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429602)

This website: www.millennium-centre.gov.uk [millennium-centre.gov.uk] claims to be monitoring things around the world.

Although judging by the leaflet every home in the country got sent, they may be more into the business of reassurance than information. Choice extract from that leaflet (paraphrased from memory): Q. Will nuclear weapons go off because of the Y2K bug? A. Don't worry! All of the UK's nuclear missiles have been tested and found to be safe. Phew.

An observation (3)

Stephen (20676) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429603)

Why is the Y2K problem known as the millennium bug? Leaving aside the issue of when the millennium begins, it's still only a centenary bug!

It's to do with the second digit of the year changing, not the first. It would only have been a millennium bug if programmers had used the last three digits to represent the year!

Surprise! '95 barfed (1)

Mowog (20830) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429605)

Well, just got back from the fireworks here in Melbourne (Aust), and guess what -- my '95 box had crashed and rebooted, something it doesn't usually do without my help. Anyone surprised? :o)

Re:Server b0rked (1)

Blitzkopf (21587) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429610)

This is perl, localtime gives years since 1900. So you have to add them to 1900 arithmetcaly (-is this a word or what) not prefix with 19.
Just some last minute Y2K fix for you fixers out there.

Stating the obvious . . . (1)

Greyjack (24290) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429616)

Of course, those who have significant outages and so forth will likely be unable to post, which sort of ensures this will be a chronicle of non-events :)

Re:An end to stupidity. (1)

Mickut (31426) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429638)

According to what I've been told, "millenium" is approximately latin. Millennium means a span of thousand years (year=annus in latin). I'll leave the supposed rest of this post for you as homework.

Re:Server b0rked (1)

half clued aussie (32023) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429640)


gives me;

Location Not Found
Timezone Lookup Failed For ,

[Back to the Overview]

btw it's 12:03AM here in Queensland.. and all's quite.. well almost MS Proxy Server seems to have died on our NT box.. squid still kicking but it's set to GMT..

Re:19100?? (3)

iCEBaLM (34905) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429650)

http://www.swissinfo.net/cgi/worldtime/clock.pl?Au ckland,New=Zealand

Current time in Auckland, New Zealand is: Saturday, January 1, 19100 - 00:34:31

I dont think many people anticipated the 19100 problem, heheh.

-- iCEBaLM

Re:end of millenium (1)

9th (37374) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429654)

Ok I for one am tiring of folks with these snide comments, er excuse me revelations... For one thing by the CE (Common Era) Calender this is indeed the start of the new millenium as there was a year 0 on this respective calender. And secondly you are exhibiting a very revealing characteristic about your personality, we've all heard this before and it can be debated all you want.. but there isn't a point to it, we just want to have some fun. Happy new years, happy new millenium, happy birthday, it doesn't make a difference, just enjoy life.

Date: Sat, 1 Jan 100 00:50:01 +73100 (4)

thogard (43403) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429674)

So my old sparc is just a few years behind.... but what a timezone offset. Well, its not sunos's fault, its that damn copy of elm compiled back in 1996. I am wondering about the old copy of innd which could have a few of these kinds of problems as well. Is it too late to start y2k fixes? If it is, I'll be heading down to the local pub to have a brew to two...

Everyone have a happy 19100!

Y2K from the front line... (4)

Nigel Bree (45256) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429677)

Lessee, 2:48AM here in Kaiwaka, New Zealand and no Y2K-related outages of any kind yet reported... the Win98 and Win2K boxes here at home went through it all fine.

Just talking about general Y2K readiness, it was amusing to watch on TV how people living in cities behaved, with stocking up on water, toilet paper and batteries on the 31st. I'm in a rural community where we can get by without technology anyhow - our water supply is rainwater collected from the roof into a 20,000 litre tank and even without electricity all we need is a siphon hose :-).

Anyhow, on general Y2K readiness it's been amusing since I used to work for a company that made the point-of-sale systems for the local oil companies. 20 years ago, most of the staff could deal with not having power at all, manually pumping the stuff using hand cranks. 10 years ago after we had computerised everything, that knowledge of how to operate had basically vanished. It's amazing how quickly people forgot how to operate in a manual world.

See, that's pretty much what I'm worried about (2)

fable2112 (46114) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429679)

Basically, especially in the US, when ANYthing goes wrong tonight (and something inevitably will), it will be blamed on the rollover, whether or not that is actually the case. Not good.

Mother Nature might not be Y2K compliant, and some storm somewhere could very well knock power off. And in Rochester, the local telephone company has been telling people "Don't pick up your phone at 12:01 to see if it works; you might overload the circuits," which leads me to believe that people might not be Y2K compliant even if machinery is.

Re:Y2K yes, New Millenium NO (1)

David Byers (50631) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429685)

This year, next year, who cares?

After all, it's only an error of one year in 2000. That's an 0.05% error. Not bad in this day and age!

I must say, I'm pretty impressed with how ahead of the times The Times must have been. E-mail in 1799 indeed!

Y2K compliant ... (1)

jalbinet (53248) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429692)

Can't be sure, but I am probably victim of the bug : I've got an horrible headache since I drank a few bottles of French Champagne.
Take care of non-Y2K compliant food&drinks !!!

Happy new year folks! (1)

NtG (61481) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429710)

What better to do on new years than post to slashdot?? Happy new year from Canberra, Australia, where I'm happy to announce that everything is fine and dandy!

Of course, I didnt update my clocks for daylight savings, so the real test is in 10 mins (1am)!

Happy new year, century & millennium

Re:Y2K yes, New Millenium NO (1)

sspiff (63371) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429716)

Yes, You are correct and I've heard all this before.

No, I don't particularly care.

Dating systems are completely arbitrary. Only because of the Judeo-Christian tradition are we hitting a year with three zeros this time.

The reason for all the "millenium hype" is that most people are too stupid to handle anything other than nice round numbers.

I'll be glad when its over because I'm sick to death of hearing about it.

Time be time, man!!!

No armageddon... frankly i'm dissappointed (1)

froz (69551) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429731)

Everything seems to have passed smoothly in Australia; in the eastern states at least. Power, telephone services, water, etc, still work.
I sincerely hope everyone else around the globe experiences a equally trouble-free rollover at midnight wherever you may be. I wish a very Happy New Year to everyone. See you all 2000!


Re:19100?? (1)

KGBear (71109) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429744)

Probably a programmer error. Ansi C returns date - 1900. It's up to the programmer to add 1900 to the date. Apparently this guy made a typo and added 19000...

Great Idea (2)

KGBear (71109) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429745)

The executive officer of a bank here in Brazil had a great idea: he went to Australia to spend the weekend, all expenses payed by his employer, to "observe the Y2K onset and report back to headquarters". Why didn't I think of it??

An end to stupidity. (1)

Inoshiro (71693) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429748)

Well, I'm assuming we'll see a lot of pissed off survivalists and terrorists soonish.

On a more useful (but pedantic) topic..
Millennium and "Millenium"

Two Ms, two Ls, two Ns, two Is, an e, and a U is the correct number of letters (if not spelling). So all single Ned "millenium" people can go on spouting about how this is the start of a new "millenium" as we can get the Webster people to add it:
"Millenium (n):
1. A thousandth anniversay of years, on the Gregorian calendar, since the time 1 BC."

This would make it proper to say "01/01/2000 is the start of the third millenium." Of course, I'm still going to have to resist the urge to curse and/or attack the person who says/writes these things ;-)

The other millennium has no such definition of a fixed window of time (from dictionary.com [dictionary.com] ):
"1. A span of one thousand years."
"4. A thousandth anniversary."

So (im)proper spelling will count. I'm not sure how the pronunciation thing will work out, as we'll probably have to muddle through via context.

It Appears that, (0)

Spazmoid (75087) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429756)

New York New York

It seems that as the Y2K line passes that important abilitites such as pouring hot grits down your pants requires full Y2K compliance. John Smith of Lexington, Kentucky reports, "I am a frequent AC at the popular 'geek site' slashdot and as the Date crossed over I found myself unable to pour hot grits down my pants anymore."
John believes its because of a Nural Net upgrade he never received shortly after birth that is to blame for his lack of compliance. We also believe this is the problem that makes him pour hot grits down his pants anyway. "It just goes to show how important achieving 'personal' Y2K complienace is." Said Bruce Dickens, patent holding inventor of one of the most widely used Y2K fixes, windowing. "People asked for these type of problems." He added.

In related news, both the Open Source Natalie Portman and Open Source Drew Barrymore projects seem to have come to a complete standstill. No word yet on wether this is a Y2K caused issue. Both the petrified Natalie Portman and petrified Drew Barrymore projects still seem to be fully operational.

A computer without A Microsoft Operating System is like a dog without bricks tied to it's head.

Re:An observation (1)

Krollekop (86346) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429775)

So you'll be the only one to wake up tomorrow finding yourself back in Jan 1 1000.

If it's not a millenium bug, not need to worry about the millenium's digit...

Re:Y2K yes, New Millenium NO (1)

Krollekop (86346) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429776)

If we follow your logic and agree to begin a millenium with the year 0, and not the year 1 as it is in use in the Christian Era calendar, then we must also apply this to months and days. And tomorrow, we will be the 0 Jan of the next millenium!

And that's a spot in the espace-time continuum where we certainly don't want to be! But do we really care? We'll be drunk anyway.

Happy new year!

End of the World Bingo Cards. (1)

mcrandello (90837) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429789)

Right HERE [islandnet.com](refresh for a different one each time.) Those who haven't had the New Year hit already can pass them out at work for a good chuckle...

rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.

Auckland's Undernet server had problems.. (2)

Ikari Gendou (93109) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429792)

!Run! one minute till auckland.nz.undernet.org (the machine) realizes it is 2000 (auckland.nz.undernet.org 946638231 255 : Friday December 31 1999 -- 23:59 +13:00(from auckland.nz.undernet.org))
!Run! Or did it just halt there?
!Run! *** auckland.nz.undernet.org 946638290 255 : Saturday January 1 2000 -- 00:00 -35:00(from auckland.nz.undernet.org)
!Run! ROFL!!! Note the -35:00 :))))

Re:the NZ power outage (1)

drnomad (99183) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429801)

New Zealand does have this Swiss clock which now says 1-1-19100 Errr.... They can't help it, 3000 Swiss are now out of electric power..

Fine in Melbourne, Australia. (1)

Tamriel (100637) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429805)

Water, gas, phones lasted fine. Except the expected overload on the mobile network. And a mate's place on a farm in the country lost power and land-line phones. We're on daylight savings here, so the big moment for power was 1am. 5 minutes ago. And it's all still fine. Except I have a headache.


end of millenium (0)

BrightSun (100649) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429807)

Ok, so everyone and their brother thinks that today is the end of the millenium. and that tomorrow is the dawn of the next. but it not, the entire year 2000 is the end of the millenium and the next does not begin until 2001 and if we want to get really technical it began in 1997 because our calendars are off by 4 years! where did our societies brains go to?

We've got Y2K problems. (3)

c+era (102193) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429816)

I live in Minnesota, US (CST), and when I came into work this morning I was told that some people can't login to the NT workstations. It turns out that last night the server team decided they needed better security (they should of switch to Solaris, we have very few problems with Solaris). Unfortunately they hosed the DNS for the domain controllers and now the part of the NT network is down (but the suns run just fine). Luckily only administrative assistants are on NT, all of our critical systems are on Solaris.

I think the biggest Y2K problem will be quick changes that are not thought through.

Re:Y2K yes, New Millenium NO (1)

harlows_monkeys (106428) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429833)

Interesting, but wrong. As they note, a millennium is an interval of 1000 years. Thus, every instant, a millenium is ending.

We can choose any set of disjoint millenniums whose union covers all time we want to use for our millennium celebrations. All such choices are equally valid. Thus, the question boils down to what set should we choose and bestow the label of the millennium upon.

The fact that people approximately 2000 years ago decided to start a new count does not seem to me to be particularly important, especially since they had no clear idea of when the event they were trying to sync to (birth of Jesus) actually took place, and so definitely missed by at least a few years.

We might as well do our millennia so they end in x999 years.

As a matter of fact... (1)

neoatmaweapon (121408) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429862)

ùíù spirit.nsw.au.ircd.net Saturday January 1 2000 -- 01:24 -37:00(from spirit.nsw.au.ircd.net) There is a *real* problem with IRCD :>

Re:Apocalypse Wow! Tips for the post-Armageddon Er (1)

Triscuit (122259) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429864)

This one received a lot of laughs at work this morning. Keep it coming!

A good way to start my day.

Anyone else seen any "Comical" Y2K readiness posts
like this one?

Y2K yes, New Millenium NO (0)

Scriven (123006) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429866)

I'd just like to remind everyone that while it IS, obviously, the year 2000, with all the inherent problems that may/may not cause, it is NOT the new millenium. So can we, as supposedly intelligent people, stop with the propagation of all this "first * of the millennium" crud.

Here's an e-mail that I got that details out the reason why, for anyone who doesn't know, (or can't count):

Produced by the Information Services Department of the Royal Greenwich Observatory
Robin M Catchpole, December 1997, last revised December 1999 (Jim O'Donnell).

When do the 3rd Millennium and the 21st Century start?

A millennium is an interval of 1000 years and a century is an interval of 100 years. In the Gregorian Calendar, which we use, there is no year zero and the sequence of years near the start runs as follows; ..., 3BC, 2BC, 1BC, 1AD, 2AD, ...

Because there is no year zero, the first year of the calendar ends at the end of the year named 1AD. By a similar argument 100 years will only have elapsed at the end of the year 100AD. Since 2000AD is the 2,000th year of the Christian calendar, it will be the last year of the Second Millennium. So the 3rd Millennium and the 21st Century will begin at the same moment, namely zero hours UTC (commonly known as GMT) on January 1st 2001.

We have received a great deal of e-mail regarding the start of the 21st Century. It is interesting to note that this is not the first time that this controversy has arisen. The Times must have received many letters towards the end of 1799, since its editors felt moved to make the following comments about the beginning of the 19th Century:

"We have uniformly rejected all letters and declined all discussion upon the question of when the present century ends, as it is one of the most absurd that can engage the public attention, and we are astonished to find it has been the subject of so much dispute, since it appears plain. The present century will not terminate till January 1, 1801, unless it can be made out that 99 are 100... It is a silly, childish discussion, and only exposes the want of brains of those who maintain a contrary opinion to that we have stated"
The Times, 26 December 1799

Apocalypse Wow! Tips for the post-Armageddon Era (5)

arc.light (125142) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429869)

"Well, well, well. Less than twenty-four hours 'til Ragnarok and I haven't a stitch to wear."

Billions of people around the globe are thinking this very thought. Don't be part of the mass of cannon fodder awaiting their fate on January 1st. I'd like to help others survive and prosper after the Y2K "situation" by describing the preparations I've made over the past year for tonight's Big Event.

1. The Car
Nothing says "I'm a survivor!" like a cool set of wheels, which is why I have a 1971 Plymouth HemiCuda [prodigy.net] with a 426ci/425hp V8.
I took out the rear window and rear seats, and welded in two 55-gallon drums as reserve fuel tanks.
I filled the trunk with cement so I could ram other vehicles in reverse during "Road Warrior"-type scenarios.
Due to the weight of the cement in the trunk, I had to replace the rear shocks with solid steel bars, so the suspension is pretty stiff, but boy does it have some range!
I've mounted a 20mm cannon (originally from a AH-1 Cobra helicopter) - that I bought on eBay [ebay.com] for $35K - to the roof of the car so it faces forward.
It fires when the left turn signal is activated.
I use a Xybernaut [xybernaut.com] wearable PC for aiming, and I adapted the anti-wobble feature of my camcorder to stabilize the cannon during vehicle movement and firing.
There is a radiacmeter attached to the grill, so I'll know when I'm approaching former urban areas.
I didn't have time to cut a hole in the hood to accommodate the huge intake of the supercharger attached to the engine, so I just left the hood off.
The exhaust system has been removed as a vestigial performance-hindering remnant of a civilized era.

2. The Duds
I have a fire-resistant Nomex jumpsuit dyed to match desert terrain, as all terrain will soon be desert terrain.
For formal occasions, black leather chaps are acceptable, but the buttless kind will make you the laughing-stock of Bartertown.
Accessorize with low-slung pistol holster [brigadegunleather.com], gas mask [gasmasks.com], and black leather jackboots [dehner.com].
Bandoleers are in this year, but only for survivors with crew-served weapons.
Fine-grain leather driving gloves will assist you in controlling your vehicle when driving through fallout-blighted areas.

3. Food
Pound-for-pound, dry dog food has ten times the nutritional value of boiled potatoes, and it can be stored longer, too!
Dog food for older dogs is often packed with fillers that you just don't need, but Puppy Chow [puppychow.com] is geared towards growing dogs, and has more than enough nutrition.
I'm towing a U-Haul trailer [uhaul.com] full of it, with a few cases of surplus MREs from the Gulf War for special occasions.

I hope I've provided some insight into the preparations necessary for surviving the coming hard times.
I am interested in having a traveling companion to help with driving.
Any fertile females interested in repopulating the planet should contact me at TheSurvivor@militia.mt.us

Re:19100?? (1)

sh (125304) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429870)

Ahhh, but if this is the case it wouldnt have been reporting something similar to the following before y2k:

[t/v] [client.oz.org] 946644450 0 friday december 31 1999 -- 23:47 +11:00

More likely they have just tacked the number of years since 1900 onto the end of the "19". It still seems to be reporting the number of seconds since epoch fine tho, obviously just a formatting error somewhere in the code, I dont see it bringing down the power grid =>. Then again the world does revolve around irc right? =>.

19100?? (4)

sh (125304) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429871)

one interesting thing after a /date on my local irc network:

[t/v] [client.oz.org] 946646223 0 saturday january 1 19100 -- 00:17 -37:00


Dam (3)

jbarnett (127033) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429886)


Everything is burning, my servers are all crashed and there are thousands of the undead on my door step. The HORROR the HORROR of it all. Please God save me from this world. There is massive amounts of radation leaking in though the vents, and the smell of Death is all around me. Most of my fellow brothers are dead, and those still living are praying and begging for the sweet grip of death to choke out their last breaths. Please death save me from this. Pleaes death, take it all away. The End is Here

Oh, wait. Dam, sorry false alarm. I forgot I am in Central time zone and it is only 8:02AM on Dec 31/99 still. Sorry my bad. I still got 15-16 hours left.

I will keep your posted.

Y2k is people! (1)

decefett (127257) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429887)

I'm at work in a tv station in Australia, we're 1.5 hours into 2000. The only errors we have had are due to people screwing up manual operations.

The automation worked perfectly but management insisted that everything was done manually, even though all the tests came out ok.

We're drinking chamapagne now and getting pissed :)

Pre-millenium Crash (1)

mtfbwy (131640) | more than 14 years ago | (#1429902)

I work in a manufacturing environment and all of our level-2 systems run Compaq/Digital OpenVMS. Last night just one out of 7 of our systems (in my area of the plant) crashed at midnight on the transition between 12/30 and 12/31. Perhaps the OS uses the date of the next day when it rolls over? Who knows...the system came right back up.
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