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Pluto Probe Makes Discoveries at Jupiter

CmdrTaco posted more than 6 years ago | from the only-wears-red-spot-on-special-occasions dept.

Space 125

Riding with Robots writes "No, it's not an accident due to a metric-to-English-units error. In February, the New Horizons probe passed through the Jupiter system on its way to Pluto, and we saw some spectacular pictures. Now, the science teams have published detailed scientific results, along with new images and movies. The probe's instruments saw clouds form from ammonia welling up from Jupiter's lower atmosphere, and heat-induced lighting strikes in the polar regions, and fresh eruptions on the volcanic moon Io. New Horizons also captured the clearest images ever of the tenuous Jovian ring system, where scientists spotted clumps of debris that may indicate a recent impact inside the rings, or some more exotic phenomenon." I bet Neil DeGrasse Tyson will be on 7 Discovery channel specials talking about these new discoveries inside of the week. Hope he's nicer than he was to poor Pluto :)

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Pluto probe makes discoveries at Uranus (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20925527)

NASA scientists arrested for bestiality, story at 11.

Re:Pluto probe makes discoveries at Uranus (2, Funny)

somersault (912633) | more than 6 years ago | (#20925743)

It would have sounded a lot better if this were about Uranus:

"In February, the New Horizons probe passed through Uranus system on its way to Pluto, and we saw some spectacular pictures. Now, the science teams have published detailed scientific results, along with new images and movies. The probe's instruments saw clouds form from ammonia welling up from Uranus's lower atmosphere, and heat-induced lighting strikes in the polar regions, and fresh eruptions on Uranus' moons. New Horizons also captured the clearest images ever of the tenuous Uranian ring system, where scientists spotted clumps of debris that may indicate a recent impact inside the rings, or some more exotic phenomenon."

Kind of difficult to take space seriously since Uranus was named.

Re:Pluto probe makes discoveries at Uranus (0, Offtopic)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 6 years ago | (#20925767)

Kind of difficult to take space seriously since Uranus was named.

OMG... Who told you it was named??

I propose a name change (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20926099)

Urectum seems like a pretty good choice.

Re:I propose a name change (3, Funny)

somersault (912633) | more than 6 years ago | (#20926523)

I dunno - Sphincter Majoris has a certain ring to it

(pun not actually intended, but hey, it works)

Re:Pluto probe makes discoveries at Uranus (3, Funny)

Nimey (114278) | more than 6 years ago | (#20926417)

We should give up and rename Uranus to Goatse.

Re:Pluto probe makes discoveries at Uranus (2, Funny)

fr4nk (1077037) | more than 6 years ago | (#20928425)

Fry: Hey, as long as you don't make me smell Uranus.
Leela: I don't get it.
Professor: I'm sorry, Fry, but astronomers renamed Uranus in 2620 to end that stupid joke once and for all.
Fry: Oh. What's it called now?
Professor: Urectum. Here, let me locate it for you.
Fry: Hehe, no, no, I think I'll just smell around a bit over here.

Oblig Futurama (1)

burtosis (1124179) | more than 6 years ago | (#20930007)

Kind of difficult to take space seriously since Uranus was named.

I'm sorry, Fry, but astronomers renamed Uranus in 2620 to end that stupid joke once and for all.

Re:Oblig Futurama (1)

burtosis (1124179) | more than 6 years ago | (#20930103)

Professor: "I'm going to build that smelloscope!" *later* "Eureka!"

Fry: "Did you build the smelloscope?"

Professor: "No, I remembered that I built one last year."

Fry: "Hey, as long as you don't make me smell Uranus." *laughs*

Leela: "I don't get it."

Professor: "I'm sorry, Fry, but astronomers renamed Uranus in 2620 to end that stupid joke once and for all."

Fry: "Oh. What's it called now?"

Professor: "Urectum. Here, let me locate it for you."

Fry: "Hehe, no, no, I think I'll just smell around a bit over here."

Re:Oblig Futurama (1)

burtosis (1124179) | more than 6 years ago | (#20930227)

Professor: "I'm going to build that smelloscope!" *later* "Eureka!"

Fry: "Did you build the smelloscope?"

Professor: "No, I remembered that I built one last year."

Fry: "Hey, as long as you don't make me smell Uranus." *laughs*

Leela: "I don't get it."

Professor: "I'm sorry, Fry, but astronomers renamed Uranus in 2620 to end that stupid joke once and for all."

Fry: "Oh. What's it called now?"

Professor: "Urectum. Here, let me locate it for you."

Fry: "Hehe, no, no, I think I'll just smell around a bit over here."

Re:Pluto probe makes discoveries at Uranus (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20936015)

In Soviet Solar System, Uranus renames YOU!

yeah, I'l say (0)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 6 years ago | (#20925535)

bet Neil DeGrasse Tyson will be on 7 Discovery channel specials talking about these new discoveries inside of the week. Hope he's nicer than he was to poor Pluto :)
Or those poor frozen chickens.

Re:yeah, I'l say (1)

mrami (664567) | more than 6 years ago | (#20926111)

It takes a tough man to make a tender planet

Betting starts here (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20925569)

I bet Neil DeGrasse Tyson will be on 7 Discovery channel specials...

Oh, yeah?

I bet 400 quatloos he won't.

Is it just me, or? (-1, Offtopic)

Big Nothing (229456) | more than 6 years ago | (#20925579)

"The probe's instruments saw clouds form from ammonia welling up from Jupiter's lower atmosphere, and heat-induced lighting strikes in the polar regions, and fresh eruptions on the volcanic moon Io."

Why is this description making me think of porn movies? What's wrong with me?

Re:Is it just me, or? (0, Offtopic)

MyLongNickName (822545) | more than 6 years ago | (#20925727)

Why is this description making me think of porn movies? What's wrong with me?

Do you want the list alphabetically or in order of importance?

Re:Is it just me, or? (1)

ObsessiveMathsFreak (773371) | more than 6 years ago | (#20925791)

You've been watching too many porn movies instead of reading more astrology magazines... or possibly vice versa.

Re:Is it just me, or? (2)

Stooshie (993666) | more than 6 years ago | (#20925907)

... instead of reading more astronomy magazines ...

Ahem! There, fixed that for you.

As any astronomer would tell you, mixing up the two is a capital offence.

Re:Is it just me, or? (1)

Gr8Apes (679165) | more than 6 years ago | (#20930247)

I'm sure if he's watching porn movies, astrology magazines would be the more commonly associated reading material....

Re:Is it just me, or? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20934857)

Ha..... that's almost as clever as placing a numeral in one's name as a substitute for... oh, sorry.

Re:Is it just me, or? (1)

hyades1 (1149581) | more than 6 years ago | (#20927675)

What's wrong with you? Hmm. Let's see...Ammonia...Polar (which has gotta mean snowy and white)...Got it! You're gay for Mr. Clean! Or straight for girl polar bears, maybe.

Just trying to help.

Oblig (3, Funny)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 6 years ago | (#20925601)

All these worlds are yours.
Except Europa.
Attempt no landings there.

Re:Oblig (4, Informative)

Phanatic1a (413374) | more than 6 years ago | (#20925825)

Did you catch a look at those Io shots?

Jesus. We've sent, what, 5 probes close enough to get a look at Io, and every one of them saw significant vulcanism? Pretty safe bet then that it's erupting like that constantly, huge lakes of glowing lava and sulfur plumes 200 miles high.

I'll take my chances with Europa.

Re:Oblig (1, Informative)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 6 years ago | (#20925879)

...huge lakes of glowing lava and sulfur plumes 200 miles high.
It's not that warm there. The vulcanism is due to tidal forces. More like lakes of liquid water and 200 foot plumes of vaporous methane.

Re:Oblig (1)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 6 years ago | (#20925949)

More like lakes of liquid water and 200 foot plumes of vaporous methane.

Sounds like a great place, eh!

Re:Oblig (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20926573)

I hope they have hockey there!

Re:Oblig (1)

JohnVanVliet (945577) | more than 6 years ago | (#20931913)

A very short game . The radiation will kill you in 5 min.

Re:Oblig (1)

innerweb (721995) | more than 6 years ago | (#20928853)

I'm going to solve the Earth's energy problem and get rich at the same time. All I need to do is build a trans-solar-system pipeline from that moon to the Earth to bring all of that beautiful methane here. Voila. No concerns for a very long time. As far as global warming goes, its a double win. Soon all of my Alaskan and Canadian beach front property on the northern shores will be prime warm vacation land. And to top it all off, I have a pipeline to attach a space elevator to to bring people up to the hotel/mid-stations in orbit for extra profit!!!

InnerWeb

[idiot tag]This is humor[/idiot tag]

Re:Oblig (4, Informative)

locofungus (179280) | more than 6 years ago | (#20926047)

From the linked article:

In addition, New Horizons spotted the infrared glow from at least 36 Io volcanoes, and measured lava temperatures up to 1,900 degrees Fahrenheit, similar to many terrestrial volcanoes.

Tim.

Re:Oblig (2, Informative)

volcanopele (537152) | more than 6 years ago | (#20929333)

I should point out that the "at least 36 Io volcanoes" number comes from the LEISA instrument, a near-infrared detector on the New Horizons spacecraft and does not include the field of bright spots seen near the sub- and anti-Jovian points (the points on the surface of Io that point directly toward and away from Jupiter, respectively). These spots are likely caused by gases above volcanoes in this area excited by Jupiter magnetic field. They could still be active volcanoes, but their thermal emission is too slight to be seen by the LEISA instrument.

Re:Oblig (1)

aldo.gs (985038) | more than 6 years ago | (#20927213)

It's always better than "All your worlds are belong to us".

Re:Oblig (1)

jagdish (981925) | more than 6 years ago | (#20933243)

All these worlds are belong to us.

A Classic (0, Offtopic)

bostons1337 (1025584) | more than 6 years ago | (#20925623)

Ah yes, yet another metric to english/english to metric error........

Twin planets (0)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 6 years ago | (#20925677)

Neptune and Uranus are twin planets in our solar system, in that they very closely resemble each other.

Unfortunately, Uranus has a ring of dust, so the Pluto probe wasn't going to be risked checking out Uranus.

Uranus Uranus Uranus

Re:Twin planets (1)

paleo2002 (1079697) | more than 6 years ago | (#20926221)

All together now: yur-en-us - Uranus.

Re:Twin planets (2, Funny)

stdarg (456557) | more than 6 years ago | (#20927539)

Interesting! I didn't know you could get urine out of Uranus.

Re:Twin planets (1)

paleo2002 (1079697) | more than 6 years ago | (#20928171)

Do you people have any idea how hard it is to teach astronomy when half the class snickers every time the 7th planet is mentioned?

In light of the public's growing familiarity with anatomy and diminishing mental age, the IAU should rename Uranus.

New name under consideration (1, Funny)

Namlak (850746) | more than 6 years ago | (#20928347)

Do you people have any idea how hard it is to teach astronomy when half the class snickers every time the 7th planet is mentioned?

In light of the public's growing familiarity with anatomy and diminishing mental age, the IAU should rename Uranus.


I heard the IAU is considering "Urasshole"...

Re:New name under consideration (1)

slugstone (307678) | more than 6 years ago | (#20929187)

DAMN IT! I got coffee all over my shirt. Thanks you very much.

Re:New name under consideration (1)

thelibrarian (10631) | more than 6 years ago | (#20934047)

I think your source is wrong on that one.

They've going to rename it Urectum.

Re:Twin planets (1)

pnewhook (788591) | more than 6 years ago | (#20932701)

Do you people have any idea how hard it is to teach astronomy when half the class snickers every time the 7th planet is mentioned?

Just pronounce it YUR-uh-nus

Re:Twin planets (1)

TriggerFin (1122807) | more than 6 years ago | (#20934367)

Pass on "Your-anus" and "Urine-us" and try "UHR-uh-nuss'". Not all words that start with U need a "you" sound.

Re:Twin planets (1)

butterwise (862336) | more than 6 years ago | (#20928659)

Interesting! I didn't know you could get urine out of Uranus.
It's true. Know something else? If you're American when you go in the bathroom, and American when you come out, what are you when you're in the bathroom? European.

money well spent (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20925689)

Whenever a camera is hurled near solar system big planets, it catches something interesting. We should establish permanent automatic research stations in orbit(s) of at least Jupiter, if not all of them. It is scientific treasure-trove.

unlikely (1)

someone1234 (830754) | more than 6 years ago | (#20925823)

This stuff is new only for us, otherwise it has been happening for millions of years.
So, if a permanent automatic system was installed there, it would give us exactly the same day by day, year from year.

Re:unlikely (1)

Dachannien (617929) | more than 6 years ago | (#20926259)

Actually, a research satellite in orbit around Jupiter would be useful for studying atmospheric processes there, which change on the order of days to decades.

Re:unlikely (2, Funny)

thsths (31372) | more than 6 years ago | (#20927209)

> Actually, a research satellite in orbit around Jupiter would be useful for studying atmospheric processes there

Ok, but who is going to listing to the Jupiter weather forecast? I would much rather have a reliable prediction for the weather right here during the week to come.

Re:unlikely (1)

Hucko (998827) | more than 6 years ago | (#20933895)

lisp programmers?

Re:unlikely (1)

StikyPad (445176) | more than 6 years ago | (#20934805)

On the serious side, studying atmospheric phenomenon on other planets can give us a better understanding of our own weather.

Re:unlikely (3, Interesting)

camperdave (969942) | more than 6 years ago | (#20926739)

So, if a permanent automatic system was installed there, it would give us exactly the same day by day, year from year.

Maybe it would, and maybe it wouldn't. We don't know. Does the vulcanism on Io go through seasonal variations? Does it only happen on Io, or are there other geologically active moons in orbit? The Cassini probe showed that we can park a satellite in orbit around these far planets, and obviously a permanently stationed device is going to give far more detailed data than one that's whizzing past. I think it's wasteful to launch these probes and have them leave the solar system when they could be inserted into orbit around a planet and give us years worth of useful data. As far as I know, apart from Earth, the only planets we have probes around are Mars and Saturn... and maybe Venus.

Re:unlikely (1)

quanticle (843097) | more than 6 years ago | (#20929533)

We did have a probe parked around Jupiter for a while. It was called Galileo [wikipedia.org] . It spent 8 years documenting Jupiter before it was decommissioned by sending it into the Jovian atmosphere.

Re:unlikely (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20931801)

I think it's wasteful to launch these probes and have them leave the solar system when they could be inserted into orbit around a planet and give us years worth of useful data.
Inserting them into an orbit around the planet is not free. It requires significant added complexity and cost. Without doing a thorough cost-benefit analysis you can't say whether it's wasteful to put the probe into orbit or to let it go flying past.

Re:unlikely (1)

iamlucky13 (795185) | more than 6 years ago | (#20934009)

I think it's wasteful to launch these probes and have them leave the solar system when they could be inserted into orbit around a planet and give us years worth of useful data. As far as I know, apart from Earth, the only planets we have probes around are Mars and Saturn... and maybe Venus.

While I agree with the first part of your post about the value of long-term observation, the quoted part of the comment is much easier said than done, especially for such a distant target as Pluto. New Horizons will fly by Pluto at about 13.8 km/s. Escape velocity from the surface of Pluto is only 1.2 km/s, meaning it would have to decellerate at least 12.6 km/s. This compares to the 16.2 km/s of delta-v achieved by the entire 1.2 million pound, 190 foot tall Atlas rocket that launched it originally. Obviously you don't have to get there so fast, but it already is a 9 year flight.

As is, however, New Horizons will provide data and images hundreds of times more detailed than what we currently have, even though it will only be obtained over a short couple of weeks. See the wikipedia page [wikipedia.org] on Pluto to get an idea how little we can see from earth. The best pictures are about as good as a Windows desktop icon. In comparison, New Horizons will map almost the entire body at 1.6 km/px [google.com] and parts of it as detailed as 50 m/px [google.com]

Assuming I converted the scales right, the above links to Google Mars show approximately the equivalent resolution from Mars images. Assuming everything works, we'll be seeing that from Pluto in 8 years.

Of course, you were talking about Io, but that wasn't New Horizon's destination. It's much easier (although not trivial) to place a probe in orbit around Jupiter, which NASA did with Galileo. Jupiter and Saturn are the only outer planets that have had orbiters, and both of those were very expensive missions.

There are currently orbiters circling Mars (Mars Reconnaisance Orbiter, Mars Odyssey, and ESA Mars Express), Venus (ESA Venus Express), and the moon (JAXA SELENE), plus one on the way to Mercury (Messenger), and one on the way to the asteroid Vesta (Dawn).

Re:unlikely (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20927325)

did anyone else read that as;

So, if a pneumatic system was intalled there, it would give us exactly the same day by day, year from year.

Re:money well spent (1)

quanticle (843097) | more than 6 years ago | (#20926521)

Well, we already have something like that in the Cassini probe for Saturn. The issue with having a "permanent" research stations is lack of power. That far out, there is very little solar radiation, so power has to come from nuclear batteries, which have a limited lifespan.

Re:money well spent (1)

icebrain (944107) | more than 6 years ago | (#20927455)

And we used to have Galileo [wikipedia.org] around Jupiter. The problem is not just lack of power (RTG's aren't the only things solar panels degrade, too...), but the spacecraft as a whole wears out. Micrometeoroid impacts, radiation (especially around Jupiter), and Mr. Murphy all take their toll. And sometimes, they just run out of fuel.

Re:money well spent (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20926831)

Actually, a better idea would be to do what the Brits did, and send all of our convicts off to found a colony on the Moon or Mars.

Then they can come back a hundred years later, dressed in outlandish Martian crocodile-skin, and start beating us at every sport....

Re:money well spent (1)

aproposofwhat (1019098) | more than 6 years ago | (#20926981)

Apart from rugby, that is...

Only the French and the Boks to knock over, and it'll be Swing Low Sweet Chariot all the way home :-)

Re:money well spent (1)

bytedruid (1171529) | more than 6 years ago | (#20927633)

The point of the new horizons craft is to get out the Kuiper belt [wikipedia.org] , Jupiter is just being used as a sling shot. Of course while your there why not take a few pictures...

Re:money well spent (1)

GodfatherofSoul (174979) | more than 6 years ago | (#20929729)

Speaking of which, why don't probes ever have true color cameras? What's with all the false color images from probes?

Re:money well spent (1)

oatworm (969674) | more than 6 years ago | (#20932115)

I don't know, but I would suspect it would be due to the relatively low levels of light out there. Since there isn't an atmosphere in space to diffuse light and since there is less sunlight out there anyways, I would think that looking at Jupiter with a normal camera with normal coloration would be akin to looking at a model of Jupiter at night in your bedroom.

Re:money well spent (2, Informative)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 6 years ago | (#20932421)

Speaking of which, why don't probes ever have true color cameras? What's with all the false color images from probes?

Most probes don't use the same kind of color capture technique that "house cameras" offer. They use filters. If you want color, you take images under different filters (select a given wavelength to "see" with). This increases the sensativey range. New Horizons is certainly capable of using many filters to produce color images, but it may have had to weigh different factors. For one, NH does not have independent instrument platforms like Voyagers did. Instead, it has to rotate the whole probe body to aim many of its instruments. This was done to cut costs and increase reliability (stuck joints were common in the Voyagers).

Thus, the camera may have had to share time with other instruments, meaning they may have had to sacrafice multi-wavelength imaging. Generally they will very roughly make one in ten images be multi-wavelength as a compromize, or pick a single "best" wavelength most of the time. It just may be that most of the interesting events happened between the multi wavelength images.

When you are the fastest probe ever launched, you risk missing something when you "blink".
     

Re:money well spent (3, Interesting)

rbanffy (584143) | more than 6 years ago | (#20929877)

Galileo was pretty much a "permanent" monitoring station, at least as far as space probes go. It was around Jupiter from 1995 to 2003 and gathered a whole lot of information. So is Cassini around Saturn and Mars has a good couple of them orbiting it.

That said, I agree it would be clever to design and assemble generic space probes with a generic instrument package and launch them towards some promising targets. If we can assemble a dozen of simple probes (or modular ones - i.e. inner solar system solar power module x deep space RTG power, custom instrument packages) instead of one twelve times more complex and launch them towards interesting targets it would give us a lot of coverage on a lot of other nearby objects for the same price (and in far less time). If something turns out to be more than an uninteresting lump of rock or ice, we could always send another probe with a custom instrument package. And, if the original one still has propellant on board, it could always be re-missioned to something else.

Maybe we could focus not on "Back to the Moon", "See Pluto" and "Probe Mars" specific projects and create a continuous exploration infrastructure that could serve us well for decades. If we focus too much on learning how to build a better spacecraft while building the spacecraft, the exploration becomes the least interesting thing in the project. If we focus more on the destination than on the vehicle, chances are we will get spacecrafts out to the launch pad on less time, within budget and more frequently than today. And by building more of them, launching more of them and testing more of them, we will end up learning just as much about how to build a better spacecraft.

This one-off custom-designed space probe business can become costly real quick.

Re:money well spent (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 6 years ago | (#20932165)

Galileo was pretty much a "permanent" monitoring station, at least as far as space probes go. It was around Jupiter from 1995 to 2003 and gathered a whole lot of information.

But Galileo did have a big antenna problem that greately reduced the amount and detail of images it could send back. Bleep happens.

But as far as "more permanent", there are two major limiting factors. The first is propellant to navigate the moons. Without navigation propellant you are limited from the different targets you can examine up close, stuck in a fixed orbit. The second limiter is radiation. Jupiter cooks the crap out of probes with its heavy radiation. After a few years, radation is bound to take its toll. It may be cheaper to send multiple fresh probes than send a single super-hardened one.

Re:money well spent (1)

dbIII (701233) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936347)

This one-off custom-designed space probe business can become costly real quick.

Compare it to launch costs. It's worth spending a bit extra so you have exactly what you want and no more instead of spending a lot extra getting extra mass out there. A "standard model" also implies that you have a very good tried and tested design and not continous improvement.

Re:money well spent (1)

Pearson (953531) | more than 6 years ago | (#20930461)

I absolutely don't understand their approach at all. Putting a satellite into orbit around each and every planet in the solar system should be one of their top priorities. The costs are small enough that it should be an ongoing process to replace each one as they wear out, without affecting any of the other programs at NASA. And as you mention, the return on investment is ridiculously high.

Compare that with the ISS which, while cool, can't compare on ROI.

Re:money well spent (1)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 6 years ago | (#20930803)

Permanent is a bit much. Sending new missions from time to time would be a good idea. Permanent is kind of like saying that the computer you buy today is the one you will use indefinitely. After a while, you don't get the returns as you used to.

Science instruments improve at a rapid pace, and I think this is why New Horizons found things that Galileo did not.

I think there is something going there in the 2010s that will replace the Galileo mission. It's going to have 10x the scientific payload, 10x the power, 10x the bandwidth and will be able to move between the moons, orbit one for a while, then another.

Re:money well spent (1)

CodeBuster (516420) | more than 6 years ago | (#20933967)

That is basically what the probes are albeit in a limited way. They cannot survive indefinitely because of the intense radiation in the space immediately around and out to a large distance of Jupiter. Even if the radiation problem could be solved, the orbit of Jupiter is too far out for solar panels to be very effective (i.e. extremely large area of panels would be needed) and nuclear batteries, while compact and long lasting, are none the less a finite energy resource. The current technology does not allow for permanent research stations or probes.

And as a result of these new findings... (4, Funny)

dpbsmith (263124) | more than 6 years ago | (#20925759)

... the IAU has decided that Jupiter is not a planet.

Re:And as a result of these new findings... (3, Informative)

Billosaur (927319) | more than 6 years ago | (#20926005)

Actually, many people have called Jupiter a failed star [sciam.com] .

Re:And as a result of these new findings... (4, Funny)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 6 years ago | (#20926333)

LEAVE JUPITER ALONE!!!

(yes, just like yelling)

Re:And as a result of these new findings... (1)

sharkey (16670) | more than 6 years ago | (#20927067)

You're lucky Jupiter even showed its red spot for you! If anybody has a problem with Jupiter, you deal with me!

Planets != People (1)

JudgeSlash (823985) | more than 6 years ago | (#20925763)

Hope he's nicer than he was to poor Pluto :)

Look this whole Anthropic Principle is getting ridiculous...

Re:Planets != People (4, Funny)

mooingyak (720677) | more than 6 years ago | (#20926097)

Careful... anthropomorphic doesn't like it when you confuse it with anthropic.

Re: Planets = People (1)

Kelsey-GrammerNazi (1170857) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936167)

>> anthropomorphic doesn't like it when you confuse it with anthropic.

... as he slowly turns into Anthracite.

Re:Planets != People (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20926151)

Now, how did you made that leap from Anthropomorphism to Anthropic Principle? Agreed, both begin with "Anthrop...", but that is about all that there is to it.

Monolith? (1)

couch_warrior (718752) | more than 6 years ago | (#20926125)

Yes, but where's the monolith? It has the opening to the wormhole that leads to the solar system where we achieve enlightenment. It must be true, I saw it on TV.

Re:Monolith? (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 6 years ago | (#20932489)

Yes, but where's the monolith? It has the opening to the wormhole that leads to the solar system where we achieve enlightenment. It must be true, I saw it on TV.

I saw lots of little monoliths with white spots on a table in Vegas. Vegas is where the enlightenment is. They free you from your money so that you can focus on your inner self.
     

You know (1, Funny)

JanneM (7445) | more than 6 years ago | (#20926189)

I bet Neil DeGrasse Tyson will be on 7 Discovery channel specials talking about these new discoveries inside of the week.
You know, if he would happen to disappear, a victim of foul play, and his body found long after the crime, the forensic people need to be thourough. If they want to determine when he died by looking at the amount of mold on the body they need to turn it over; DeGrasse is always greener on the other side.

Re:You know (3, Funny)

argStyopa (232550) | more than 6 years ago | (#20926261)

Even if they found he was beaten to death by a wolflike humanoid, they'd deny it or cover it up, because the government knows that nobody believes theories about DeGrasse gnoll anyway.

Re:You know (0, Flamebait)

JoshJ (1009085) | more than 6 years ago | (#20926293)

You know, sometimes you should just keep your mouth shut and not make the bad pun. Take the high ground instead, it's not like everyone can be as good a comedian as Carlos Mencia. ...maybe I'm being a bit too harsh?

Re:You know (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20934219)

You are being a bit harsh. It was a great setup and pun.

Re:You know (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20926431)

>>DeGrasse is always greener on the other side.

That was truly horrible. I congratulate you.

COG

Re:You know (1)

WilliamSChips (793741) | more than 6 years ago | (#20933663)

David Morgan-Mar, is that you?

All irreverance aside, fantastic stuff! (3, Interesting)

decipher_saint (72686) | more than 6 years ago | (#20926503)

I mean, each paper sounds completely intriguing:

Polar Lightning and Decadal-Scale Cloud Variability on Jupiter
Kevin H. Baines, NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Io Volcanism Seen by New Horizons: A Major Eruption of the Tvashtar Volcano
John R. Spencer, Southwest Research Institute

Clump Detections and Limits on Moons in Jupiter's Ring System
Mark R. Showalter, Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI) Institute

Jupiter Cloud Composition, Stratification, Convection & Wave Motion: A View from New Horizons
Dennis C. Reuter, NASA Goddard Space Flight Center

Io's Atmospheric Response to Eclipse: UV Aurorae Observations
Kurt D. Retherford, Southwest Research Institute

Energetic Particles in the Jovian Magnetotail
Ralph L. McNutt Jr., Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory

Diverse Plasma Populations and Structures in Jupiter's Magnetotail
David J. McComas, Southwest Research Institute

New Horizons Mapping of Europa and Ganymede
William M. Grundy, Lowell Observatory

Jupiter's Nightside Airglow and Aurora
G. Randall Gladstone, Southwest Research Institute

These are all highly fascinating subjects each worth a read let alone the fantastic gallery: http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/gallery/sciencePhotos.html [jhuapl.edu]

I completely support the New Horizons team, they're doing amazing things from behind a computer screen. Something I honestly wish I could do.

Re:All irreverance aside, fantastic stuff! (2, Interesting)

Hatta (162192) | more than 6 years ago | (#20929249)

So here's what I don't understand. They captured some beautiful images the fluid dynamics of gasses mixing in jupiter's atmosphere. How is it that these gasses can keep mixing and not reach equilibrium? I see the same schlieren patterns if I add some glycerol to some H2O and invert the tube a couple times. But invert it a little more and they're gone. What is jupiter doing to keep its atmosphere from doing the same? Are some of the gasses in its atmosphere immiscible or something?

Re:All irreverance aside, fantastic stuff! (1)

rbanffy (584143) | more than 6 years ago | (#20929921)

They probably will. It will just take a couple more billion years, so, be patient.

Re:All irreverance aside, fantastic stuff! (1)

StikyPad (445176) | more than 6 years ago | (#20934829)

Get yourself a Jupiter-sized test tube, a few billion years to observe, and you'll have your answer.

Re:All irreverance aside, fantastic stuff! (1)

volcanopele (537152) | more than 6 years ago | (#20929407)

And of course the most interesting is Io Volcanism Seen by New Horizons: A Major Eruption of the Tvashtar Volcano :) Not that I am biased or anything ;) (in the interest of full disclosure, I'm author number 11).

Re:All irreverance aside, fantastic stuff! (1)

sighted (851500) | more than 6 years ago | (#20931135)

Fascinating, all of it. Keep up the great work.

Re:All irreverance aside, fantastic stuff! (1)

decipher_saint (72686) | more than 6 years ago | (#20931681)

Excellent! I can't wait to get home and start reading.

I have to say that all of you folks keep putting the stars in our eyes, great job!

Funny. (1)

pionzypher (886253) | more than 6 years ago | (#20926845)

I'm watching 'Passport to Pluto.... and Beyond' on the Science channel, they've been talking about the Jupiter flyby for the last five minutes or so. Interesting stuff. No... Dr. Tyson wasn't a part of the program. ;) It's towards the end, so if any of you have TSC, keep an eye out for it.

heat-induced lighting strikes (1)

OrangeTide (124937) | more than 6 years ago | (#20927037)

Are obviously a result of global warming. You can now understand the impact our cars have on the environment.

The Jupiter System? (2, Funny)

Boronx (228853) | more than 6 years ago | (#20928553)

Jupiter's not a system, he's a god ... a scoundrel. He'll smite you for calling him a system.

fp tac0o! (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20929633)

Perhaps the most facinating thing (1)

agrippa_cash (590103) | more than 6 years ago | (#20929941)

is the contrast between the amazing photos and sophisticated graphics and the Powerpoint 95 quality of the rest of the presentation. This slide (http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/news_center/news/pictures/100907_pressGraphics/files/Stern/SternHi-Res/Stern_11.jpg [jhuapl.edu] ) could almost be a cat macro.

Demoted (1)

PPH (736903) | more than 6 years ago | (#20930199)

Did the creators of this probe know of Pluto's demotion from planetary status at the time of its launch? Maybe they should just turn it around and bring it home.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

Neil DeGrasse Tyson (1)

Asterra (1087671) | more than 6 years ago | (#20933603)

I used to add documentaries to my DVD collection quite regularly. But then I discovered that the once sacred world of the documentary is gradually being overtaken by the plague of the lowest common denominator. And this fellow, Tyson, seems to be the go-to guy for covering that bracket of the audience. His narration and explanations are always, ALWAYS simplistic - the sort of dialog anyone who watches the Science Channel could have provided if prompted. It never fails to make me feel dumb just watching it. And so now I make it a point to avoid this guy and any documentary he has any involvement with.
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