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Ex-HP CEO Carly Fiorina Hired By Fox News

CmdrTaco posted about 7 years ago | from the definitely-a-downgrade dept.

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neutrino38 writes "The International Herald Tribune reports that Fox News hired Carly Fiorina, ex-HP CEO. Such an interesting move will certainly bring support to those who viewed her as the over-hyped CEO who killed the original corporate engineering culture know as 'the HP way.' The article, off course, does not elaborate on this aspect of things. Slashdot has previously reported her demise from HP and some comments mentioned some HP employee dancing in the cubicles then."

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Despite this news (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20927081)

It is observed that Fox News is not in charge of Gundam.

Re:Despite this news (1)

Jarjarthejedi (996957) | about 7 years ago | (#20927371)

Well they weren't...with this development? Who knows what they'll do... :P

Don't blame me... (-1, Offtopic)

shrubya (570356) | about 7 years ago | (#20927089)

...I voted this story down in the Firehose as Offtopic.

Oh well, let the "Faux News / Liberal Media" flame wars begin.

ORGINAL?? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20927181)

Someone was in a hurry to post this article, you douche bag, cmdrtago [sic].

A Question for Current HP employees.. (4, Interesting)

pentalive (449155) | about 7 years ago | (#20927097)

Do you think that the "original corporate engineering culture know as 'the HP way'" is returning or has returned to hp?

Re:A Question for Current HP employees.. (4, Interesting)

rubycodez (864176) | about 7 years ago | (#20927263)

no, they finished laying off all the good engineers over a year ago, they're going down the crapper. still pushing technology customers don't need and don't want, like itanium2 and freakin' ethernet NFS/CFS NAS appliances in front of fibre SAN for "high performance databases" to protect the customer "from having to deal with complexity of fibre SAN and disk arrays".

Re:A Question for Current HP employees.. (1)

cplusplus (782679) | about 7 years ago | (#20928387)

no, they finished laying off all the good engineers over a year ago, they're going down the crapper.
What a dumb thing to say. Really. I'd hold the engineering talent in my lab up to that of any other top tier organization in any other company. Interestingly enough, and counter to your argument, it's most often the case that when a lab or product line is shuts down (and this is the same for almost any employer), the top 10%-20% are readily scooped up somewhere else within the company. The rest? Well...

Re:A Question for Current HP employees.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20927289)

Sadly, HP is now a mish-mosh of "old HP", Compaq, DEC and Indian outsourcing - there is no HP anymore.

Re:A Question for Current HP employees.. (5, Interesting)

gaffle (1126429) | about 7 years ago | (#20927439)

I agree with this totally.

As an employee of HP only because they bought my company, I can attest to the fact that HP is no longer a monolithic institution, but rather a bunch of components jammed up against each other operating largely autonomously.

It's what the stockholders want I guess, and will only become more prevalent as HP continues its pace of rapid acquisitions.

Re:A Question for Current HP employees.. (2, Interesting)

Austerity Empowers (669817) | about 7 years ago | (#20928075)

Actually, I'm pretty sure the stockholders don't want that as clearly you have some inefficiencies to cut.

But speaking as someone who worked in that environment in the past, but now works in a large monolithic company...count your blessings ;) There's a high "corporate tax" on each employee, such that I do almost 100% less daily, due to spending so much time "maximizing synergy". The sad part is my manager thinks that's great, he's annoyed when i spend a day in the lab developing and testing our new product.

-1 Flamebait (-1, Flamebait)

l2718 (514756) | about 7 years ago | (#20927105)

Ms. Fiorina's past behaviour notwithstanding, the story submission is rather incendiary. Surely a more civil account of the situation could have bdeen found?

Re:-1 Flamebait (0, Flamebait)

Penguinisto (415985) | about 7 years ago | (#20927153)

No kidding - this reads more like an editorial than a news item.

Cue the hordes of political flame-fests in 3... 2... 1...

/P

Re:-1 Flamebait (1)

trolltalk.com (1108067) | about 7 years ago | (#20927207)

>"Ms. Fiorina's past behaviour notwithstanding, the story submission is rather incendiary. Surely a more civil account of the situation could have bdeen found?"

Why? This is Faux News we're talking about. You can be sure that everyone over at CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, BBC, etc., are dancing in their cubicles!

Re:-1 Flamebait (1, Funny)

Caball (58351) | about 7 years ago | (#20927425)

Yep, I am sure they are all dancing in the streets with their rating trailing Fox's.

Re:-1 Flamebait (1)

sumdumass (711423) | about 7 years ago | (#20927869)

That's the point silly. They think their ratings won't be trailing after she had been at Fox for a while. They can finally ask for a raise and act like they deserve one for competing with Fox News.

Re:-1 Flamebait (2, Funny)

YU Nicks NE Way (129084) | about 7 years ago | (#20928265)

You might want to fact-check your data there, Mr. Cavuto.

Re:-1 Flamebait (1)

falcon5768 (629591) | about 7 years ago | (#20927317)

Funny and the way I looked at it her past behaviour as a evil sith lord in training was all the flamebait needed. I mean its like Faux news and Fionia are made to complement each other.

Re:-1 Flamebait (3, Insightful)

hey! (33014) | about 7 years ago | (#20927697)

It's not incendiary. It's opinionated and sarcastic.

Incendiary would be if it were implied that she and her new employers were going to do something bad to you in the future. Incendiary evokes new negative emotions. Sarcastic just rehashes old ones.

After, this is all just the story of a third rate CEO being hired by a third rate news organization. It's not as if she were being hired by some covert arm of the Republican Party...

Re:-1 Flamebait (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20928279)

It's not as if she were being hired by some covert arm of the Republican Party...
Not according to Bill O'Reilly... http://chocolatenews.ytmnd.com/ [ytmnd.com]

Now if she can.... (1, Funny)

HerculesMO (693085) | about 7 years ago | (#20927121)

Screw up FOX News as badly as she screwed HP, we would be in good business!

Re:Now if she can.... (1)

jellomizer (103300) | about 7 years ago | (#20927191)

To keep things more fair and ballanced we will get fatter democrats to give their issues so we can get more slim republicans to debate against him.

Best of luck! (5, Funny)

griffjon (14945) | about 7 years ago | (#20927127)

I hope she brings Fox the same integrity and good business sense that she brought to HP.

Re:Best of luck! (4, Insightful)

sg3000 (87992) | about 7 years ago | (#20927235)

> I hope she brings Fox the same integrity and good business sense that she brought to HP.

I'm sure we will.

Now we'll finally get the answer to the question "Which is harder? Running a first rate company into the ground, or being a Bush economic policy apologist?"

For those of you keeping score at home, in this corner, we have the person who helped bring down HP's stock by more than 50% [wsj.com] and missed earnings targets [news.com] . In the other corner, we have the economic policy that turned $250 billion budget surpluses under Clinton into $300 billion budget deficit [nytimes.com] in just two years!

Sounds like a perfect match.

Re:Best of luck! (-1, Troll)

sumdumass (711423) | about 7 years ago | (#20927663)

Lol.. If you think that turn of events was from economic policy, then you really don't know much do you?

There are factors present in those 2 years that would have done the exact same for clinton if he was still president in those two years. Try being a little more realistic.

Cheney and Bush have wreaked economic havoc. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20927923)

Quote: "... you really don't know much do you?"

SumDumAss, you sound like a typical superior feeling, but ignorant Republican.

Cheney and Bush have wreaked economic havoc on the U.S., and want that to continue. The Iraq war is intended to be exactly what oil and weapons investors want: Destruction of the reputation of the U.S., so that there will be constant war, and huge increases in gast prices.

[OT] Re:Best of luck! (3, Insightful)

hal9000(jr) (316943) | about 7 years ago | (#20927667)

In the other corner, we have the economic policy that turned $250 billion budget surpluses under Clinton into $300 billion budget deficit in just two years!

While I am not a fan of Bush, the deficit slide can't be blamed entirely on Bushes economic plan. The magnitude, sure, but the slide started long before. The forecasters of the OMB were overly optimistic about the dotcom boom and expected it to last forever. When the bust happened, not only did a lot of money dry up, but the expected capital gains taxes forcast dried up too. That and the balanced budget bill lapsed. Congress started spending. So alot of things happened in the span of a few short years some of which can be blamed on President Bush.

BTW, The Age of Turbulence: Adventures in a New World by Alan Greenspan has a pretty good overview of that happened in addition to prividing insight into how the guy got to be so smart. It's good reading.

Re:[OT] Re:Best of luck! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20928099)

Who should we blame for the fact that the US dollar is now worth less than the Canadian dollar? http://www.xe.com/ [xe.com] It is $1.02 to get a Canadian dollar. I know all my paperback books from a few years ago have prices on them like $5.99 US, $7.99 Canada. So this is a rather large event...

Re:[OT] Re:Best of luck! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20928235)

Who should we blame for the fact that the US dollar is now worth less than the Canadian dollar?

This makes American goods and services CHEAPER for foreigners meaning, US stuff becomes more price competitive. Also, it drives up tourism as America becomes a lower cost destination.

Although, economics is not my thing, so I don't fully understand how it all balances out, such as oil costs, particularly since the world market is usually stated in American $. I guess that means that the cost of oil also increases as the value of the dollar decreases to maintain balance. Yadda yadda yadda, inflation increase.

Anyone have more insight?

Re:[OT] Re:Best of luck! (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20928327)

You're conflating issues.

The claim was the recession that followed the Clinton administration that erased the projected surpluses cannot be blamed upon the Bush administration. The economic decline had already begun during the end of the Clinton administration. Had he remained president for a third term, the same events would have transpired. There were numerous layoffs across the economy, earnings were weak, and everyone except venture capitalists and greedy day trader was projecting the end of Greenspan's "irrational exuberance" with pain. Indeed it would have been even worse had idiots not moved into a housing bubble right afterward, which surprise, surprise, has resulted in a "credit crisis" that is oozing all over the economy.

The U.S. economy has been floating on nonsense for quite a while. It's a sickness that predates the the Bush administration. 'Real wages' have been falling since the '80s.

The Bush administration is retarded, for sure. It ramped up spending and cut taxes, in some perverse amalgam of Keynesian and supply-side theory that we'll call "mortgaging the country's future and then looting the capital, while using our power to reduce the financial liability for our interest groups." The disease that afflicts America is just bigger than any one administration's looting, even if this one is ridiculously egregious.

Re:Best of luck! (1)

deniable (76198) | about 7 years ago | (#20927301)

Wait until they hire Patricia Dunn. You could have the Carly and Patti show. They could give advice on how to run a business the right way.

Re:Best of luck! (2, Insightful)

jimicus (737525) | about 7 years ago | (#20927457)

You could have the Carly and Patti show. They could give advice on how to run a business the right way.

So presumably all a budding exec would have to do would be to carefully watch the show, then go into work and do the exact opposite?

Sounds like a plan to me.

Re:Best of luck! (5, Funny)

jollyreaper (513215) | about 7 years ago | (#20927653)

I hope she brings Fox the same integrity and good business sense that she brought to HP.
So now I'll need a 500mb driver every time I tune in to Fox? Just another reason not to.

Re:Best of luck! (3, Funny)

WindowlessView (703773) | about 7 years ago | (#20927753)

And Lucent. Let's never forget the fine job she did there.

It's an astounding accomplishment to drive two of the world's premier engineering organizations into the ground within a decade. Truly Fox worthy.

Re:Best of luck! (1)

deniable (76198) | about 7 years ago | (#20927895)

Truly Fox worthy.


Jeff Foxworthy? [imdb.com] I feel a "you might be a redneck joke coming." Either that or is she smarter than a fifth grader.

What for? (1)

Opportunist (166417) | about 7 years ago | (#20927811)

Fox already has the quality and integrity that HP acquired during her stay.

Fox News the News you want to hear. (-1, Troll)

jellomizer (103300) | about 7 years ago | (#20927129)

Well at least she is doing something wich doesn't matter. Fox News is just for people want to hear what they want to hear. They are not interesting is differnt views just conferming what they think is right so they feel good.

Re:Fox News the News you want to hear. (-1, Troll)

Lally Singh (3427) | about 7 years ago | (#20927197)

Watch 'Outfoxed,' the network was *literally* founded as a mouthpiece for the Republican party. Hell, it's first president used to be the PR Head for the GOP.

Carly's taking over Fox? There is justice and there is a God who loves us.

Re:Fox News the News you want to hear. (1, Insightful)

t0rkm3 (666910) | about 7 years ago | (#20927337)

Would you care to contrast that with the other media outlets who are currently run by major contributors and/or political beneficiaries of the DNC?

Media is the currency by which political capital is exchanged in this country. If you want an informed opinion you have to form your own.

FoxNews was founded to fill an entertainment gap. A news channel with a fundamentally conservative outlook, in contrast to the liberal outlook promulgated by most other outlets.

Re:Fox News the News you want to hear. (1)

Enry (630) | about 7 years ago | (#20927445)

You find me reporters for the non-FNC that are directly affiliated with liberal causes and you might have a point. Most of the talking heads on FNC either identify themselves as conservative or write/appear/work for organizations that identify themselves as conservative.

Re:Fox News the News you want to hear. (1)

jdgeorge (18767) | about 7 years ago | (#20927501)

Would you care to contrast that with the other media outlets who are currently run by major contributors and/or political beneficiaries of the DNC?

Hmmm... Which are the DNC-oriented media outlets you describe? I'm curious; it would be interesting to know how the news I'm seeing is being shaped.

Re:Fox News the News you want to hear. (2, Insightful)

Jawnn (445279) | about 7 years ago | (#20927777)

He won't, because he can't. The entire "liberal media" rant, so regularly trotted out by the right whenever they are confronted by actual facts that put the lie to their "fair and balanced reporting", is a myth. Right our wrong, "the media" is, for the most part, television, and broadcast media has been almost entirely subsumed by corporate interests, interests whose political leanings really need no discussion.

Re:Fox News the News you want to hear. (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20927791)

in contrast to the liberal outlook promulgated by most other outlets.

Show me a single news channel half as left-wing as Counterpunch.org and I might believe you.

Oh wait, you can't. [whatliberalmedia.com]

Re:Fox News the News you want to hear. (1)

Bassman59 (519820) | about 7 years ago | (#20928355)

Would you care to contrast that with the other media outlets who are currently run by major contributors and/or political beneficiaries of the DNC?

Media is the currency by which political capital is exchanged in this country. If you want an informed opinion you have to form your own.

FoxNews was founded to fill an entertainment gap. A news channel with a fundamentally conservative outlook, in contrast to the liberal outlook promulgated by most other outlets.

Who modded this guy insightful? Inciteful, perhaps, meaning troll.

Re:Fox News the News you want to hear. (1)

Beyond_GoodandEvil (769135) | about 7 years ago | (#20927223)

They are not interesting is differnt views just conferming what they think is right so they feel good.
Ask yourself in an era of declining subscription rates, how is the different from just about any other media outlet? They all try to coddle their viewer/readship and reinforce the worldview that keeps them(the reader) buying the paper/tuning in etc.

Re:Fox News the News you want to hear. (0)

jellomizer (103300) | about 7 years ago | (#20927365)

I never said Fox wasn't like the others. NPR does the same thing for the Democrats, sure they change the structure so it makes them feel more intelectual. But other stations try a little harder to be fair. I remember the last time I watch fox news and they were debating the War, They had a well informed Political Analysis to support the war, and a college student half high on pot to support the other side, after that I stopped watching.

Re:Fox News the News you want to hear. (0, Troll)

cthulu_mt (1124113) | about 7 years ago | (#20927685)

Except NPR does it on the tax payers dime.

...one of these things is not like the others....

Re:Fox News the News you want to hear. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20928315)

Yeah, that 6% of NPR's total funding that comes from state and local governments is really a heavy burden on the tax payers.

Re:Fox News the News you want to hear. (4, Insightful)

WindowlessView (703773) | about 7 years ago | (#20928391)

Except NPR does it on the tax payers dime.

So does Fox News, just with a level of indirection. You think many of their corporate advertisers aren't sucking the public tit dry? That the farm bill doesn't subsidize ADM, or the perverse medicare prescription policy isn't a handout to Big Pharma, etc.?

Re:Fox News the News you want to hear. (2, Insightful)

Capt James McCarthy (860294) | about 7 years ago | (#20927609)

"Fox News is just for people want to hear what they want to hear. They are not interesting is differnt views just conferming what they think is right so they feel good."

You can swap out "Fox News" with pretty much any/all "news" media outlets, local, regional, and national. If the news was reporting just facts without slanted commentary, from any side, 6 people may watch the news. People watch based upon their belief system, if Fox fits the bill, they watch Fox, if CNN does it for them, they watch CNN, and so on.

However, trying to tell people to sift all the BS to get to the facts...well...that's too much work for them.

Re:Fox News the News you want to hear. (1)

knewter (62953) | about 7 years ago | (#20927775)

Let's try that comment out again, this time with preview!

Well at least she is doing something wich doesn't matter. Fox News is just for people want to hear what they want to hear. They are not interesting is differnt views just conferming what they think is right so they feel good.
Well, at least she is doing something *which* doesn't matter. Fox News is just for people *who* want to hear what they want to hear. They are not *interested* *in* *different* views, just *in* *confirming* what they think is right so they feel good.

Whew. Now, that doesn't actually make your statement grammatically appropriate, but at least now it can be read.

Re:Fox News the News you want to hear. (1)

uniquename72 (1169497) | about 7 years ago | (#20928025)

Well, at least she is doing something *which* doesn't matter.
If you really want to be pedantic, it should be "that", not "which".

One organization's rubbish... (3, Funny)

mfh (56) | about 7 years ago | (#20927149)

... is another organization's treasure!

They should have got her for Surreal Life [wikipedia.org] , but I'm sure Fox News will find something stupid for her to say.

...and here it comes.... (1, Funny)

UncleTogie (1004853) | about 7 years ago | (#20927163)

In other news, Fiorina will push to aquire the "We Network", rename it to "You" to make it more personal, and later merge it with Fox.

The new network, of course, will be:Fox-You

Coming soon to a boardroo^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hcable provider near you!

Re:...and here it comes.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20927567)

LOL! How do you do it? I'm just awed by the subtlety and simplicity of completely changing names of unrelated channels around and combining them with the name of the channel in the story, to make a NEW channel that sounds almost, but not quite, completely unlike the phrase, "Fuck You!"

With jokes like that, I think Fox should seriously consider hiring you to create your own show to compete with the Daily Show.

Re:...and here it comes.... (1)

spectro (80839) | about 7 years ago | (#20928277)

sir, you're a genious. I which I had mod points

The article, off course (1, Funny)

rob1980 (941751) | about 7 years ago | (#20927167)

Oblig. Final Fantasy 7 reference:

Keep goin'?! Current battle points: 10
Off course! No, way!

Position? (1)

bostons1337 (1025584) | about 7 years ago | (#20927169)

Fox did not specify her role at the new channel.

I don't see what the big deal is about telling people her role at the company. Its not like there telling everyone her salary even though well all know its well into the 6 figure ballpark.

Re:Position? (1)

krog (25663) | about 7 years ago | (#20927517)

I'm not sure she'd wave a fart in your direction for six figures. HP gave her $21,000,000 just to get rid of her... just before losing $21M more to her in court.

My only hope is that she brings the same quality of guidance and direction to Fox News as she did to HP.

Re:Position? (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | about 7 years ago | (#20928163)

Considering how good she is at reading markets, she'll probably decide that Fox needs to be 100% fair and balanced. I can't decide whether this would be a good thing or not...

hopefully she's just a writer (0, Troll)

rubycodez (864176) | about 7 years ago | (#20927171)

that is one ugly and evil-radiating bitch to put on camera, drive away viewers for sure.

Re:hopefully she's just a writer (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20927345)

Any worse than Ann Coulter?

Fox News, home of untalented women (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20927179)

Not that any woman is talented, beyond the kitchen and bedroom.

Is this the 'real' Carly Fiorina?? (2, Funny)

jkrise (535370) | about 7 years ago | (#20927221)

Or will it be someone else pretending to be her, but pocketing the money nevertheless?

I forget the interesting euphemism they had for 'lying' on the phone... anyone remember?

Re:Is this the 'real' Carly Fiorina?? (2, Informative)

Dielectric (266217) | about 7 years ago | (#20927409)

That would be pretexting.

Obligatory "screw you!!1!" to Carly for messing up the calculator division.

Re:Is this the 'real' Carly Fiorina?? (1)

krog (25663) | about 7 years ago | (#20927581)

Can I blame her for the HP-33S [hp.com] ? Because I'd really like to pin that abomination on someone I already hate.

Re:Is this the 'real' Carly Fiorina?? (1)

644bd346996 (1012333) | about 7 years ago | (#20928395)

Nope. Other than the display and the keyboard, the 33s is a good calculator. It isn't worthy of Fiorina.

But you can blame her for completely killing their calculator business for several years. (They left the assembly lines running for a while, but fired all the engineers at ACO). She's also responsible for making sure that none of the good bits of HP were left after the spin-off of Agilent (excepting the aforementioned calculator business she killed) and she is responsible for the assimilation of Compaq (for which she also killed off all the good bits of the company, including what was left of the Alpha business).

Vampire in a company full of ghouls (5, Funny)

pzs (857406) | about 7 years ago | (#20927309)

According to this comment [slashdot.org] , Carly feasted on the souls of thousands of decent tech workers at HP. Where is she going to find a soul at Fox News?

I have visions of her, the arch-liche and Bill O'Reilly, some kind of undead bear, chucking mega spells at each other across the office.

Peter

Re:Vampire in a company full of ghouls (0, Troll)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | about 7 years ago | (#20927843)

Peter,

Such hate is best not paraded in public.

One fine editing job, there... (1)

damn_registrars (1103043) | about 7 years ago | (#20927357)

From the summary:

corporate engineering culture know as 'the HP way. The article, off course does not elaborate on this

Thats three typos in two sentences, taking up barely a full line of text. Is that a new record for a lousy summary?

Re:One fine editing job, there... (2, Funny)

swordgeek (112599) | about 7 years ago | (#20927441)

Take a step back, one word to be specific, and you add another one: "orginal."
Literacy is a dead art.

Re:One fine editing job, there... (1)

dave420 (699308) | about 7 years ago | (#20927521)

You missed the lack of hyphen in "over hyped" in the previous sentence, and the missing comma after "course" in the sentence you quoted.

Re:One fine editing job, there... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20928233)

In other words, it's perfectly adequate for Fox News.

Clearly staffing up for battle w/CNBC (4, Informative)

Presence1 (524732) | about 7 years ago | (#20927381)

As mentioned in TFA, Fox is planning to start a new business news channel, to compete with CNBC. Interesting that TFA makes no mention of her anticipated role in the new organization.

The man they hired to run the new news channel, Roger Ailes, also helped start CNBC.

The WSJ has an agreement with CNBC to provide content. The WSJ also just got bought by Rupert Murdoch's empire, which also owns Fox. Ailes says that there won't be a conflict.

Ailes also gives a lot more info here in this interview:
http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB119160938630350371.html [wsj.com]

Should be interesting.

Re:Clearly staffing up for battle w/CNBC (1)

Rogerborg (306625) | about 7 years ago | (#20927643)

I'd imagine that her contribution will be to answer really tough questions, like "Carly, would you view the latest White House economic policy as merely really great, or super hyper great?"

It would be a waste to make her an anchorperson (1)

TechForensics (944258) | about 7 years ago | (#20927717)

..wouldn't it? She's good enough to do a lot more for Fox News.

Re:Clearly staffing up for battle w/CNBC (1)

sumdumass (711423) | about 7 years ago | (#20927829)

Hmm, so the WSJ did actually sell out. Last I heard, the controlling family was holding out for more money and Murdoch walked away and everyone else interested did the same.

Maybe he was just calling out the chickens who where attempting to bid the cost up on him. But I'm glad to finally hear that he got it.

Re:Clearly staffing up for battle w/CNBC (1)

Knara (9377) | about 7 years ago | (#20928267)

I don't *really* get how they could compete. CNBC is already fully staffed with market cheerleaders, "free market conservatives", and amoral trading shows (not that I necessarily think those things are bad).

It *would* be pretty funny if they created a network that was based on "values investing", or better yet, "socially responsible" investing. Would really show in a brighter light how FOX isn't news, just entertainment for the neo-con crowd.

Uh... (1)

Kabuthunk (972557) | about 7 years ago | (#20927537)

So wait... working for Fox News is supposed to increase her support?

Evil Empire (0, Troll)

Doc Ruby (173196) | about 7 years ago | (#20927577)

"Fox" is just the TV channel that Murdoch uses to promote the same global fascism that his new ownership of the Wall Street Journal will bring to print. The "Fox Business Channel" is yet another face. There's plenty of evil business/political people out there to fill the seats, and plenty of people paying money to get their badly skewed content with which to pay the staff.

What I like is that all of these incompetent liars are accumulating in one place, which makes it convenient to ignore them all at once. Maybe they'll achieve critical mass and collapse into total conversion to whatever negative energy crapons degrade to.

I already said my piece(s) (2, Interesting)

Groo Wanderer (180806) | about 7 years ago | (#20927597)

Re:I already said my piece(s) (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20928187)

Hahaha... The Inquirer. Say no more.

(No really, I mean it.)

Carly did NOT practically wreck HP first.... (3, Insightful)

pandrijeczko (588093) | about 7 years ago | (#20927623)

...she got in a lot of good practice at Lucent Technologies also.

Carly Fiorina is a cunt. (0, Flamebait)

Jackie_Chan_Fan (730745) | about 7 years ago | (#20927647)

Carly Fiorina is a cunt. It is well known that she pissed away HP. She has been trying to reinvent herself, taking credit for things wherever she can, but the truth is, she ran HP into the ground and destroyed it. HP barely supports their products, and that is the Carly Fiorina way. She's a cut throat cunt, that destroys companies.

Foxnews? She'll fit right at home there.

Re:Carly Fiorina is a cunt. (1)

harshmanrob (955287) | about 7 years ago | (#20927809)

Agreed...flamebit...but Agreed with 100% of everything you just said.

She Didn't Happen to Bring a Gold Ring, Did She? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20927695)

"He is gathering all evil to him. Very soon he will summon an army great enough to launch an assault upon Middle-Earth."

Well... (1)

Cleon (471197) | about 7 years ago | (#20927731)

At least we know that Fox's new business venture isn't going to go very far.

Do you suppose they'll hire someone from Enron to manage programming?

Fox keeps strange company (1)

chaffed (672859) | about 7 years ago | (#20927757)

Fox news also has Oliver North [wikipedia.org] . Fox news keeps strange company. I question their choice in consultants. I'm glad I do not get my news from Fox.

Let Fox News have her! (5, Insightful)

harshmanrob (955287) | about 7 years ago | (#20927761)

Let's hope she can succeed at running Fox News into the ground. Fortunately, she was unable to do that at HP but if she had stayed any longer, she would have. She can get on the economic segments and tell people how ordering Compaq to fire workers and rehire them at half the pay and no benefits as contractors is a good model for a takeover. And then fired HP employees after the merger, keeping those contractors. She can say how outsourcing is good for the economy as she fired MORE HP workers for those Indian call centers.

Carly, you're a FUCKING BITCH! (and go ahead, moderate me down to a score of zero, I do not care. She is a bitch who destroyed lives and everyone here knows it).

Last Days of HP (4, Interesting)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | about 7 years ago | (#20927779)

I was a contractor at HP for 2-1/2 years that covered the last days of Lew Platt and the first days of Carley. From what I observed, the decline had started, due to the economy weakening during that time, before Carley.

When I started at HP they were much like the way Google is described to be now. While I'd have to say that Google is HP on steroids, since HP offered great coffee, tea, and often sweet rolls in the well-equipped snack nooks around the cubical farms, and a well-subsidized cafeteria -- in contrast, Google offers free meals and transportation, among other amenities -- but the idea was the same. HP employees had a lot of freedom towards arranging their own transportation to other HP sites as they determined their requirements to be, specified and ordered their own personal computer equipment including printers, and generally were given a lot of freedom to do their jobs.

Over the next year and a half under Lew, much of that went away in ways that make it clear it would never return. It was belt tightening time, and a lot of it happened in areas like this one, including two job freezes.

When Carley did arrive, she was very warmly received by all of HP. There was great enthusiasm -- and perhaps not too much looking back at what she'd (un)accomplished at Lucient. Right up to the time I left, pretty much everyone was behind her, and much jazzed about having a woman CEO -- and a relatively young woman at that.

Yes things got worse after that in ways are that well known. But in fairness, I saw the first signs of decline before she ever arrived.

Best Carley joke from that era: After she visited our facility (contractors not allowed to attend the actual meeting) we were told that the lovely palm trees in the courtyard were going to be cut down after Carley had found out that they weren't going to meet their 15% growth target for the next year.

Fox Severence Pay (1)

digitaldc (879047) | about 7 years ago | (#20927797)

I hope she can get at least $21 million severence pay when she leaves Fox News, sounds like a great retirement plan IMHO

Why not? (3, Insightful)

ObiWanStevobi (1030352) | about 7 years ago | (#20927835)

Fits right in with Oliver North [wikipedia.org] , Mark Fuhrman [wikipedia.org] , Geraldo [wikipedia.org] ,etc.

Welcome to the team!

Skank Was Always On the Dark Side (2, Informative)

curmudgeon99 (1040054) | about 7 years ago | (#20927855)

This is no surprise. Having worked under the skank when she was at HP, I'm not surprised she's in league with the slime over at Fox. She was the worst imperial style CEO who--though HP had just inherited several new Gulfstream jets when they purchased Compaq, Carly went out and bought two brand new jets (one which was reserved for she and her husband alone) at the same time that several thousand contractors and employees were getting axed. She was a nightmare.

Not so sure she was that bad - Compaq anyone? (2, Insightful)

Morky (577776) | about 7 years ago | (#20927885)

HP now dominates the Windows server space, and is #1 in PC sales and printers. They were #1 only in printers before the Compaq merger/acquisition. Maybe she didn't do so bad by HP in the long run?

Re:Not so sure she was that bad - Compaq anyone? (1)

Ant P. (974313) | about 7 years ago | (#20928343)

Dominating in the windows server space counts for about as much as dominating in the Mac desktop space.

Let's ponder this (1)

Opportunist (166417) | about 7 years ago | (#20927905)

She's managed to turn HP from one of the most efficient and highest quality manufacturers of hardware into a cheap crank-out-the-crap shack. Fired all the quality staff and hired clueless wannabes (mostly 'cause the latter are cheaper). Turned slick, quality-driven production into cumbersome, bureaucratic molasses and relied on PR and marketing as selling point instead of quality and integrity.

Maybe she believes in karma and wants to undo in Fox what she did to HP. Because, well, Fox is already where she left HP, what else could she do for the company?

FOX needs a domestic spying expert. (1)

SQLz (564901) | about 7 years ago | (#20927933)

Who better than Carly?

look at it this way... (1)

v_1_r_u_5 (462399) | about 7 years ago | (#20928027)

since she layed off thousands at HP, maybe she'll lay off thousands at fox too and we'll all be saved.

Can they also hire Darl? (5, Funny)

vtldtlm (723885) | about 7 years ago | (#20928087)

Please, please.....

Ignoring the emotional opinions of the moment.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 years ago | (#20928111)

If she had something else to do, she would be doing it by now. It will be interesting to see if she can use this opportunity to leap back into a CEO position. I wouldn't bet on it, but stranger things have happened.

Don't have a problem with FOX, but... (1)

Lumenary7204 (706407) | about 7 years ago | (#20928301)


... this is still a bad move for Roger Ailes & Co [wikipedia.org] .

Some people can throw too much emphasis on Carly's involvement with the "Investi-Gate" scandal (where she authorized the investigations to pinpoint who was leaking privileged information to the outside). She may have authorized the investigations, but in a bit of turnabout, she herself became a subject of her own boardroom's paranoia [typepad.com] ; the actual (mis)handling of the investigation fell largely to Chairwoman Patricia Dunn [businessweek.com] , who was indicted as a result. (At best, she ended up being a scapegoat.)

From a leadership perspective, I compare Ms. Fiorina with former U.S. President Jimmy Carter: untried, uninspiring, and unimaginative. Her guidance of HP during Investi-Gate at the corporate political level can be compared with Carter's decision-making during the Iran hostage crisis at the government political level. She essentially authorized the board to "do something," and then failed to keep control of the situation and take decisive action when necessary.

Fox News is based on fast-paced, hard-hitting, "damn-the-torpedoes"-style reporting, where journalists try to wrap a riveting story around a collection of often incomplete or unverified facts (and so are most other 24/7 news channels).

Given her otherwise okay but hardly noteworthy performance in leading HP, I'm not sure she's the one for the job...
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