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Japan Moon Probe Snaps First Photos

samzenpus posted more than 6 years ago | from the space-godzilla dept.

Moon 184

mrcgran writes "Space.com reports, "Almost one month after Japan's successful launch of the Kaguya lunar probe, the unmanned observatory has begun its first major activities in orbit around the moon. In addition to snapping its first lunar images, the probe jettisoned one of two 110-pound (50-kilogram) "baby" satellites that will help create a detailed gravity map of the moon." The major objectives of the "KAGUYA" mission are to obtain scientific data of the lunar origin and evolution and to develop the technology for the future lunar exploration. "KAGUYA" consists of a main orbiting satellite at about 100km altitude and two small satellites (Relay Satellite and VRAD Satellite) in polar orbit."

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Not me. (4, Funny)

plover (150551) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936305)

I, for one, am sick to death of welcoming 50 kilogram robotic overlord after 50 kilogram robotic overlord, only to have them fly off to the moon after a month or so, leaving us high, dry, and overlordless back here on Earth!

Re:Not me. (1, Funny)

Sentri (910293) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936327)

With that welcoming attitude its a wonder they ever turn up at all!

haha, now I have an image in my head of those people on the roofs of skyscrapers in Independance Day, except they are all japanese and asking for their moon-probe-robotic-overlord back

Re:Not me. (2, Funny)

cookieinc (975574) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936951)

From all the Japanese videos I've seen on the net, I can be 100% sure that they have sent this probe solely to hunt for more tentacled space aliens. I guess the aliens just do it for the money

Then quit whining.... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20936407)

...SPAWN MORE OVERLORDS!

Prettier webpage (4, Informative)

Sentri (910293) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936313)

More user friendly version here: http://www.selene.jaxa.jp/index_e.htm [selene.jaxa.jp]

"KAGUYA" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20936707)

What is savage word? Why must we always have stories about what some barbaric race is doing?

Meanwhile, the Linux server marketshare has dropped 20% in the last quarter and no stories on that...

Re:Prettier webpage (1)

cookieinc (975574) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936897)

Can anyone explain why the photos are extremely low resolution? Here's the largest I could find: http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/10/img/20071009_kaguya_07l.jpg [www.jaxa.jp]

Judging from the lack of detail even at this relatively small size, it looks like these photos are the original resolution it was captured at.

Why not install a higher resolution camera? Are space cameras much different from Earth cameras?

Re:Prettier webpage (4, Informative)

Karthikkito (970850) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937191)

There's a high res camera -- this one is just meant to observe the antenna that's right in the middle of every shot (make sure it's oriented fine, etc, in the event of communications troubles). Just happens that the moon is in the FOV.

Re:Prettier webpage (1)

digitalchinky (650880) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937263)

I guess they could only afford to send up one of their fancy 3G dual camera phones - Probably forgot to tape it on the right way around and ended up with the vga cam all arse about instead of the 5mega-pixel jibber at the back.

Re:Prettier webpage (2, Insightful)

Whiteox (919863) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937419)

So they sent up a moon satellite with a B&W camera?
That's pretty dumb... but at least they put a blue filter on it to make it like a movie.

Hey! Down in front! (4, Funny)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936319)

Nothing like a freaking high gain antenna smack-dab in the middle of every freaking shot.

That's no High Gain Antenna (5, Funny)

RuBLed (995686) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936333)

That's supposed to be the tripod, I believe someone got fired...

Re:Hey! Down in front! (3, Funny)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936367)

Nothing like a freaking high gain antenna smack-dab in the middle of every freaking shot.

The capricious manager who proposed moving the antenna at the last minute before launch must feel pretty stupid right now.
       

Re:Hey! Down in front! (1)

pizzach (1011925) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937833)

Well actually, the original plan was to remove the antenna using SGI effects before going public with the pictures. What a management bungle this was!

Re:Hey! Down in front! (1)

sykopomp (1133507) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936383)

Even rocket scientists do stupid shit sometimes.

Re:Hey! Down in front! (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20936863)

As it says the camera is for monitoring the high-gain antenna, I think it might not be such a stupid idea to actually have it in the photos.

Re:Hey! Down in front! (3, Informative)

phantomcircuit (938963) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936563)

The camera is to observe the high gain antenna, not to take pictures of the moon.

Re:Hey! Down in front! (1)

Cassius Corodes (1084513) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936871)

At first I thought he was joking but then I read the article. How curious.

Re:Hey! Down in front! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20937475)

Not really... if you want pictures just stick your camera on the end of a telescope. There are many more things we don't know about the moon that can't be seen by a camera. Like, for example, getting a detailed gravity map.

Re:Hey! Down in front! (3, Informative)

achurch (201270) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937439)

Don't worry; Kaguya has a better camera [www.jaxa.jp] , too.

Weapons (-1, Flamebait)

The_Mystic_For_Real (766020) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936323)

How long will it be before Japan insists on being allowed to maintain an offensive military?

With China on its border, and the US treating it as a sock puppet, Japan must be looking for ways to reassert the Imperial power they once possessed. They are developing high powered fighter jets, and advanced space technology that has obvious military implications, plus they control a vast amount of US debt. Meanwhile we are just complacently buying cheap cars and sending all the wealth our forefathers gave their blood, sweat, and tears (well, not much crying in that generation) to earn.

Can we trust them? They were really friendly once we started glassing their cities, but once they have the power to return the favor, old nationalist sentiment is sure to follow.

Re:Weapons (0, Troll)

RuBLed (995686) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936355)

Yeah I don't trust them too, considering that we are not in charge of Gundam.

Re:Weapons (1)

Sentri (910293) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936359)

For a well measured and written comment, that certainly harbours alot of fear and mistrust. Do you have a basis for those fears or are they more of a phobia? Im wondering because when a country is destroyed and then left to moulder I can see why it would harbour resentment, but I was under the impression the US helped with Japan's rebuilding efforts.

Re:Weapons (1, Insightful)

ArcherB (796902) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936385)

For a well measured and written comment, that certainly harbours alot of fear and mistrust. Do you have a basis for those fears or are they more of a phobia? Im wondering because when a country is destroyed and then left to moulder I can see why it would harbour resentment, but I was under the impression the US helped with Japan's rebuilding efforts.

And that is the key. Defeated enemies tend to become the strongest allies when you take the time to stick around and rebuild the country so that it is nicer than it was when you first showed up. Japan is an ally because we were allowed to finish the job and did not "cut and run". Hell, we are still there!

Re:Weapons (1, Insightful)

cong06 (1000177) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936493)

Don't even start using that as an excuse to stay inside of Iraq. What are we accomplishing? Maybe we should drop nukes on Iraq as well? I'm sure that would overall increase our reputation. That way instead of not only creating more hostility between America and the Middle Eastern Nations, or even simply creating a general anger towards America's ignorance and atrociousness, we would be showing off to the whole world that indeed, America is just as evil an empire as all the Radical Muslims are attempting to fight against.

Maybe then you'll have given the whole war to these Radicals. This war needs to be fought person by person. Through Discussions between people, and by understanding the "enemy" to the point of reasoning with them.

Back to Japan though, I wonder how much of the "peaceful relations" that we have with them aren't so much because we helped rebuild (we had better help rebuild...after blowing a big crater in a densely populated area) but because we are the current world power. I'm sure most countries just "play along" with all the things we do simply so that they don't get lost in the shuffle.

Re:Weapons (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20936697)

You're a fucking idiot.

Re:Weapons (0, Offtopic)

rucs_hack (784150) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937149)

Maybe we should drop nukes on Iraq as well?

No way, we don't want an Iraqi Ishiro Honda Creating more Godzilla, and an endless stream of city destruction analogue cartoons that all seem to require the technical expertise of schoolgirls.

'Ah yes, we need the schoolgirls because their purdah wearing panty flashing abilities, um, well, we just need them, ok?'

Re:Weapons (1, Insightful)

dltaylor (7510) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937257)

"to the point of reasoning with them" makes the erroneous assumption that humans (other than a rare few) are consistently capable of reason. On any subject where "belief" is involved (religion, political and economic theory, child-rearing, ...), reason is literally not possible by the believer. You can no more reason with an Islamic fundamentalist or George W. Bush regarding their respective delusions, than a significantly afflicted schizophrenic off his medication, and probably less.

"Peaceful relations" with Japan are a product of the advantages that they perceive and American delusions. When either of those factors changes, then the Japanese would quite willingly return to their Imperial behavior, or the US will go back to the arrogant pre-war behavior that made the war with Japan inevitable.

Re:Weapons (-1, Offtopic)

cong06 (1000177) | more than 6 years ago | (#20938101)

"to the point of reasoning with them" makes the erroneous assumption that humans (other than a rare few) are consistently capable of reason. On any subject where "belief" is involved (religion, political and economic theory, child-rearing, ...), reason is literally not possible by the believer. You can no more reason with an Islamic fundamentalist or George W. Bush regarding their respective delusions, than a significantly afflicted schizophrenic off his medication, and probably less.

I didn't really want to bring Religion specifically into this, because that would bring all of the connotations of a ignorant American who believes in God and country, etc.

But I do have the privilege of interacting with a man who goes out of his way to interact with Muslims on a faith level. I've never traveled with him, but I've heard some amazing stories from him how he has explained the Mennonites point of view, being a peace loving denomination, and opening the discussion about religion and war in general. He's done a considerable amount of work against George Bush, to bring people together. Fascinating stories about connecting Mennonites and Muslims in a way that can only lead to more peaceful relations between Muslims and Americans. Examples such as the Iranian President sending a letter addressed to President Bush dealing with George Bush's so called "Christian Faith."

Everyone is "Reasonable" to an extent. I'm sure in some twisted way George Bush thinks he's doing something good. (poor soul)

Re:Weapons (4, Insightful)

vux984 (928602) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937135)

And that is the key. Defeated enemies tend to become the strongest allies when you take the time to stick around and rebuild the country so that it is nicer than it was when you first showed up. Japan is an ally because we were allowed to finish the job and did not "cut and run".

Oh for crying out loud, the thinly veiled reference to Iraq is ludicrous.

We didn't unilaterally invade Japan. They were at war prior to our involvement with them.

Japan wasn't harboring long term resentment over American oppression and manipulation at the individual level the way many Iraqi's 'hate america'.

Japan wasn't already on the point of a civil war due to multiple mutually hostile internal factions that were barely being contained by the brutal dictator we installed and propped up.

So it was largely the government that was at war with the US, not the 'people'.

So when Japan surrendered after the nuclear weapons attacks, and the government was dissolved and reformed they really did surrender, and the whole country especially the average civilians were pretty unified in their desire to get on with the rebuilding. Iraq has gone a completely different direction; with multiple competing hostile factions that were there all along going at each other with America caught in the middle of it.

Even if the US manages to ultimately succeed, it will be by siding with one of the factions and helping them become dominant and rebuilding with them... this will only alienate the other factions who will just become even more hostile to the US, and they will gather with allies in Afghanistan, Iran, etc.

At -best- its going to be Israel all over again. Sure we have a great ally in the faction we helped dominate and claim and rebuild the space, but at what cost? perpetual war and festering anti-american sentiment from the displaced/neighboring factions.

Re:Weapons (0, Flamebait)

vtcodger (957785) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937917)

***Japan is an ally because we were allowed to finish the job and did not "cut and run". Hell, we are still there!***

If the US had mismanaged the occupation of Japan and Germany to the extent that it has bungled things in Iraq, we'd have ended up fighting and losing 20 year long guerilla wars in both places. And we'd be looking at two important rearmed and hostile enemies.

Like Kenney Rogers says "You gotta know when to hold em and know when to fold em." In the case of Iraq we should have stayed out of the game and it's long past time to fold our hand just walk away. Stay a few more years and it'll be time to run.

BTW, I don't have any problem with sending the Iraqi's a bunch more money eventually to fix up their country. We broke it. We should pay for the damage. But they probably need to have (a) real functioning government(s) before air-dropping money will do any good. In the meantime, how about we focus on what went wrong in the US, and why, and how do we keep the clowns who are responsible from ever doing any decision making again?

Re:Weapons (-1, Flamebait)

The_Mystic_For_Real (766020) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936411)

Certainly, the older generation in Japan (the one with power), heard stories of murder and abuse at the hands of the Americans, and so could very well harbor a strong resentment that they have suppressed to be allowed to rebuild over the years. They have the power to crash our currency on a whim, and are physically and culturally linked to China, one of our gravest threats.

And like all international problems, Japan wants oil, and preventing the US from getting the oil we need would serve them just fine. It is cheaper to pipe oil drilled in West Asia to East Asia rather than America.

Re:Weapons (2, Insightful)

timmarhy (659436) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936547)

"and are physically and culturally linked to China, one of our gravest threats."

umm i hate to rain on your parade there kiddo but china and japan hate each other. there's a few centuries of mistrust and ill will between them - they love america far far more.

Re:Weapons (0, Offtopic)

adona1 (1078711) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936375)

I call paranoia. With a strong economy [wikipedia.org] , a military isn't really needed. They can rule you wholesale [wikipedia.org] instead.

Let others boast of martial dash
For we have boldly fought with cash

Re:Weapons (1)

akasch (1159557) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936379)

so Japan got to the moon finally with an unmanned vehicle - good for them

Re:Weapons (1, Redundant)

wanderingknight (1103573) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936417)

Yay! Let's do the preemptive war on them, too!

</sarcasm>

Hiya, I live in Japan... (0, Offtopic)

patio11 (857072) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937457)

There are very few countries I would trust in a foxhole, and only one of them doesn't speak English as the national language. That one is Japan. Japan is so intimately tied with the United States politically, economically, and culturally that to suggest that Japanese rearmament (a frog that has LONG since boiled -- they now have something like the world's 5th largest military) leads to military conflict with the United States is like suggesting that Canada is planning to continue the War of 1812 grudge match at the first provocation.

In some bizzaro world where Japan and the United States had economic hostilities (as opposed to the odd disagreement among friends over import levels, tariffs, and the like), Japan cutting off trade with the US would ruin the nation in a matter of months. (And that is assuming we didn't respond by having the Navy cut off their oil supply, in which case she would quite literally cease to have a modern economy in a matter of weeks.) That is the flipside of them being economically dependent on exports to America and their other overseas markets.

Additionally, debt is a weapon that goes both ways. There is a nice expression -- "When you owe the bank $100,000, the bank owns you. When you owe the bank $100 million, you own the bank." The economic nuclear option for the United States is having a midlevel Treasury functionary say one catastrophically important sentence: "We will not pay interest on the T-bills held by the Japanese government, or anyone they should sell them to, for the duration of the hostilities." Oh, we owed you a trillion dollars? Sorry, our mistake -- the accountant has been fired.

That is a heck of a lot more important with regards to China than it is to Japan, by the way. I really don't mind China investing their profits in the US debt (*somebody* is going to own it, who cares who) -- should they decide to have an attack of stupid and talk about nuking Los Angeles again, we can just threaten them with causing a financial panic on a scale unheard of in history. All of the devastation with many less bodies than threatening to match them in megadeaths.

I call this the economic nuclear option because it would NOT be consequence free -- it would pretty much guarantee a worldwide financial panic. But, hey, if you're talking about a major conflict between two of the richest nations in the world the worldwide financial panic is a given.

I for one... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20936361)

welcome our Japanese mooninite overlords.

Re:I for one... (1, Offtopic)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936467)

welcome our Japanese mooninite overlords.

[insert Asian version of goatse link]
         

Re:I for one... (0, Offtopic)

Paktu (1103861) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936645)

welcome our Japanese mooninite overlords.

[insert Asian version of goatse link]

I'm pretty sure you're talking about www.lemonparty.org [lemonparty.org]

Re:I for one... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20936829)

[insert Asian version of goatse link]
A gaping asshole is pretty much a universal symbol for all cultures.

On the other hand, Tubgirl probably needs a couple more tentacles to suit Japanese tastes.

Re:I for one... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20937003)

[mod down -1, gross]

Welcome home, baby... (0, Offtopic)

wezeldog (982156) | more than 6 years ago | (#20938307)

I say this to all your things, for this is a robbery.

Got a snap of the American flag they left behind? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20936365)

What about the buggy thingamees that they left up there? And the coke can. I jest, but seriously folks, I want to see if these conspiracy theories can be put to rest for good. Can they photograph the equipment left behind?

Re:Got a snap of the American flag they left behin (4, Funny)

Farmer Tim (530755) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936641)

What about the buggy thingamees that they left up there?

Everything left on the moon worked perfectly! (That slapping sound you hear is a horde of retired NASA engineers throwing down gauntlets)

I want to see if these conspiracy theories can be put to rest for good. Can they photograph the equipment left behind?

These are people who don't accept the existing film, photographs, hunks of moon rock, etc, as evidence; more photos won't make a scrap of difference. The only way to refute conspiracy theorists is to take them to the moon and push them out an airlock without a space suit so they can experience the low gravity and hard vaccuum first hand (and even then they'd probably use their last breath attempting to argue that it couldn't have been done in the 1960's...).

Re:Got a snap of the American flag they left behin (1)

edwardpickman (965122) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937061)

Yes but if you took them all you could end the argument. I vote ship two we load up with middle management types and phone sanitizers.

Re:Got a snap of the American flag they left behin (1)

Whiteox (919863) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937445)

What! You want us to die from a virulent disease from a dirty telephone????
Geez the nerve of some people!

Re:Got a snap of the American flag they left behin (1)

Farmer Tim (530755) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937617)

To be fair to the plan, death by dirty telephone is only a possibility, while ridding ourselves of middle management is guaranteed.

Worth the risk, IMO.

So the big question is.... (3, Funny)

ChangeOnInstall (589099) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936389)

....did they find our fake moon landing set yet?

Re:So the big question is.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20936457)

Shouldn't be hard to find, it's right next to the alien base.

Re:So the big question is.... (2, Funny)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936491)

did they find our fake moon landing set yet?

Their probe is using the same studio, so of course they'll find it all right there as expected.
     

Re:So the big question is.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20936659)

I don't know how you expect them to find it in all that cheese.

Re:So the big question is.... (1)

ggvaidya (747058) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937745)

A fake moon landing set ... on the moon?

Proof of the moon landing maybe? (4, Interesting)

The Tonester (1162829) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936401)

Perhaps the Japanese can provide some unbiased evidence of the (alleged?) moon landing site. Put those pesky theories to rest...

Re:Proof of the moon landing maybe? (3, Insightful)

RuBLed (995686) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936459)

Conspiracy theories are designed to persist even against overwhelming evidence against it.

Re:Proof of the moon landing maybe? (1)

pv2b (231846) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936481)

There isn't really any controversy over whether the Americans went to the moon. Pretty much every single claim that they didn't has been convincingly debunked. And if the conspiracy theorists don't believe those debunkings -- do you really think they are going to believe some images from an unmanned Japanese space probe?

Re:Proof of the moon landing maybe? (1)

davmoo (63521) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936639)

Nah, won't change a thing. The "it was faked" whack-jobs will just swear up and down that the American government bought off the Japanese to doctor the photos, the American government doctored the photos themselves, or that the Japanese lunar mission itself is fake.

Re:Proof of the moon landing maybe? (1)

timmarhy (659436) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936687)

watch the penn and teller bullshit ep. on conspiracy theories. fucking funny.

Re:Proof of the moon landing maybe? (1)

evanbd (210358) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936855)

XKCD [xkcd.com] put it quite eloquently. These are not theories that any amount of rational evidence or logic will refute.

Re:Proof of the moon landing maybe? (4, Insightful)

niklash (1134135) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936943)

There already is.

Why don't people think of the soviets?
The one country on earth that desperatly wanted usa to fail.
The one country that had the technology to check if there really was a spaceship flying to the moon.

If there was anything even remotely fishy about the moon landing they would complain to no end.

And still they said nothing. They diden't even *try* to discredit the moon landing.

Re:Proof of the moon landing maybe? (1)

Mattsson (105422) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937757)

If a reliable source can verify the landing-sites, it's obvious proof that the US government secretly has launched unmanned probes to set up faked landing-sites on the moon. =)
Complete with fake moon-boot print makers and all.

For real. No lie.

FTW (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20936423)

I believe that Japan should be allowed to do whatever the hell they want to do. Come on, now. That "imperialist" thing is bullshit. How could anybody see what the US is doing and call Japan "imperialist"? I believe that a nation should be able to do whatever the hell they want as far as cosmological exploration goes.

troll food (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20936653)

Was somebody arguing otherwise?

Is it me or... (3, Insightful)

BTWR (540147) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936621)

Is there also an air of nerdy excitement about this new-sorta "Space Race II" (new character... Asia!) in the rest of you guys too?

Re:Is it me or... (1, Funny)

mstahl (701501) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936673)

On the moon, nerds are spanked with moon-rocks!

In Soviet Russia (0, Offtopic)

mrbluze (1034940) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937891)

On the moon, nerds are spanked with moon-rocks!
The rock moons you!

Re:Is it me or... (1)

DerekLyons (302214) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936945)

Nah. I don't generally get excited about internet memes.

Re:Is it me or... (1)

Mattsson (105422) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937817)

The highly competitive sport of Space Race [acc.umu.se] is always exiting.

Yes but also... (1)

maillemaker (924053) | more than 6 years ago | (#20938037)

>Is there also an air of nerdy excitement about this new-sorta "Space Race II"
>(new character... Asia!) in the rest of you guys too?

Yes, but also I have this nagging fear that we won't be able to dominate like we used to. We're lazier and more expensive than we used to be.

Re:Yes but also... (1)

bkr1_2k (237627) | more than 6 years ago | (#20938245)

More to the point, though, do we even want to dominate this particular race? Getting to the moon [again] is a big deal, but is it worth the effort? Unless we're going to develop a lunar base, what would be the point of racing to the moon again? We've already proven we could do it with technology from 40 years ago, why would doing it again really prove anything?

Certainly it would generate some new technologies and possibly even support for the space program, but our current space program is so wrapped up in its own importance that I doubt that would happen.

"Space-worthy" equipment is ridiculously expensive these days and NASA won't send anything up that isn't hardened to ridiculous standards. People would focus too much on the failures and the cost to recognize any true benefits, and thus, there would be no real benefit because the program simply wouldn't get off the ground.

Kaguya Hime (4, Informative)

Bonker (243350) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936669)

Princess Kaguya is the traditional main character in The Tale of the Bamboo Cutter [wikipedia.org] . She's something of a Japanese 'Tom Thumb'.

Kaguya is a golden-haired princess sent to the Earth from her Moon kingdom to learn about the joys and sadness of life. In various versions of the tale, she's required to return to the moon once she reaches adulthood.

Anime fans will note that the 'Moon Princess' motif is used repeatedly in modern stories, such as 'Sailor Moon', 'Mammotte Syugogetten' and more recently, 'Oh, Edo Rocket!'.

Re:Kaguya Hime (1)

giorgiofr (887762) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937409)

And don't forget Shingetsutan Tsukihime, even though it had some kind of fallen angel connotation as well.

HD (4, Interesting)

FrostedWheat (172733) | more than 6 years ago | (#20936853)

These pictures are fairly low quality, probably from an engineering camera rather than a scientific one.
One thing I noticed on the website is that they also carry an HDTV camera [www.jaxa.jp] ! Can't wait to see some nice HD video from lunar orbit.

Re:HD (1)

MikeyVB (787338) | more than 6 years ago | (#20938113)

You are correct, it is an engineering camera. The article states (http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2007/10/20071009_kaguya_e.html#at01 [www.jaxa.jp] ) that the images are from a camera specifically there to monitor the high gain antenna. I can't wait for the HD camera photos, those ones will probably be really nice!

Re:HD (1)

PhotoGuy (189467) | more than 6 years ago | (#20938203)

These pictures are fairly low quality, probably from an engineering camera rather than a scientific one.

Indeed, the fact the antenna is right in the middle, and the linked web site refers to a "on board camera for monitoring the high gain antenna", I would say this is pretty much confirmed. I look forward to the high def shots.

WOW slashot got way less hard to reply (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20936959)

two 110-pound (50-kilogram) "baby" satellites that will help create a detailed gravity map of the moon

This is when we find the monolith.

*This post brought to you buy me FINALY finding the stupid javaascript shit with the reply button.

Re:WOW slashot got way less hard to reply (1)

TarZ (954747) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937105)

Regrettably, "baby" satellites doesn't have the ability to find the Magnetic Anomaly.

The main satellite has the ability. Lunar Magnetometer [selene.jaxa.jp]

Re:WOW slashot got way less hard to reply (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20937245)

Regrettably, "baby" satellites doesn't have the ability to find the Magnetic Anomaly.
Is that where the Monolith is buried?

Re:WOW slashot got way less hard to reply (1)

TarZ (954747) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937285)

Tycho Magnetic Anomaly-1 [wikipedia.org]

Tycho Magnetic Anomaly-1 (also known as TMA-1) refers to the apparent magnetic irregularity found at the Tycho crater on the Moon's surface by American astronauts. ...

Anyone for Engrish? (4, Funny)

Crypto Gnome (651401) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937007)

All I want to say is hopefully their science is better than their english and/or translators.

At the CCD device, pixel defects (white blemishes) generate by space lay, so, it is expected the cyclic observation makes clear the effect of the space lay around the moon orbit. It is difficult to protect the CCD from the space lay. So we have been developed the grand system be able to compensate the white blemishes of max 20 thousands from the pick-up image.

Re:Anyone for Engrish? (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937389)

I had similar issues with the asteroid mission which is still running. Their press releases can be a bit hard to understand, but it is pretty clear that the Japanese have a lot of engineers working on these programs who really know their stuff.

But they do it all in Japanese, the way Australians like me do everything in English.

Re:Anyone for Engrish? (1)

ignoramus (544216) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937991)

All I want to say is hopefully their science is better than their english and/or translators.

Wow.

You seem to be under the impression that we native English speakers are and will continue to be the center of the world.

We'll be lucky if the countries that are actually interested and doing real science and exploration keep bothering to tell us what's going on, even if the english is bad. We're too busy catering to the lowest common denominator by pouring all our collective energy into making every single part of life drool proof and safe, encouraging the impression that anything that's difficult or complex should be avoided.

Re:Anyone for Engrish? (2)

orcrist (16312) | more than 6 years ago | (#20938365)

You seem to be under the impression that we native English speakers are and will continue to be the center of the world.


Oh cut the politically correct crap. Translating to English isn't generally for the benefit of the native speakers, it's to allow for as broad of an audience as possible. Why the fuck do you think we're typing this in English? Hint: it's not just because Slashdot is from the U.S. And now, think about who will have the most problems reading poorly translated English? Hint: it's not native speakers.

I've travelled around quite a bit -- and lived abroad for at least a third of my life -- and I've heard many more complaints about poor English from non-native speakers than from native speakers because the non-native speakers are the ones who have more problems with it.

Incidentally, I would agree with you if the GP had been criticizing, e.g. a Slashdot post or spoken English (anyone can make a mistake), but this is from their space agency and is presumably meant for international consumption. There must be plenty of Japanese/English translators who can manage better than that. Why don't they hire one?

Gravity map? (1)

Slurpee (4012) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937037)

I wonder how long it will take them to find TMA1

On a *gravity* map? Never! (1)

apodyopsis (1048476) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937315)

A very, very long time on a gravity map - they'd need a MAGNETIC plot. Remember, TMA1 stands for "Tycho Magnetic Anomaly - One" thats how they found it.

Of course the gravity map *might* find the buried Atlantean spaceship because of its mini-blackhole power source, but I doubt it....

Re:On a *gravity* map? Never! (1)

Slurpee (4012) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937477)

damn - stand back while the penny drops.

I read your comment - and it clicked - stupid.

and you know what? I even reminded myself what TMA stood for before posting....

Magnetic force - gravitic force....same thing right? ;-)

Re:Gravity map? (2, Interesting)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937479)

I wonder how long it will take them to find TMA1

Time to read the book again. It was the magnetic field which made it stand out, possibly maintained by current in a loop of superconductor.

There is a pretty good chance we would have found it by now. [springerlink.com]

Re:Gravity map? (1)

Slurpee (4012) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937541)

or at least let the difference between gravitic force and magnetic force

Too much psycho-AI on the mind (1)

Black Parrot (19622) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937125)

At first I read that as "Japanese moon probe snaps: first photos"

Protoss?? (1)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937139)

In addition to snapping its first lunar images, the probe jettisoned one of two 110-pound (50-kilogram) "baby" satellites that will help create a detailed gravity map of the moon.
This is the precursor to a Protoss-like Carrier in World War IV [uncyclopedia.org] . I'm just saying.

That was nice BBS software by the way (1)

maillemaker (924053) | more than 6 years ago | (#20938059)

WWIV. Ah, the good old days. :)

Apollo 20..? (1)

xx01dk (191137) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937189)

I wonder if they are planning on taking a closer look at the backside. Look it up, seriously.

When do the giant alien monsters attack Tokyo? (1)

gbulmash (688770) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937199)

Don't a handful of the Toho rubber-suit-monster movies start with a Japanese space launch getting the attention of unfriendly aliens?

Moon landing set? Yeah what ever you say. (2, Funny)

asm2750 (1124425) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937311)

President Truman: Get this saucer to Area 51.
General: But that's where we're building the set for the fake moon landing.
President Truman: Then we'll have to really land on the moon. Invent NASA and tell them to get off their fannies.

Remember... (3, Funny)

apodyopsis (1048476) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937329)

When they snap the Apollo landing sites and see two sets of footprints leaving the capsule..

..and three returning that you need to start worrying.

Nah, I'm no so amused about the landing site, it's the enormous "Kilroy was here" on the darkside of the moon I'm wait for....

Google (1)

AkumaReloaded (1139807) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937747)

Why do we need these pictures anyway. Everyone knows that when you get close enough, you will find out the moon is made of cheese.

What a vain probe! (3, Funny)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937781)

Geez, nothing but pictures of itself! Should have named it PRINCESS.

Rapid approach (1)

janap (451953) | more than 6 years ago | (#20937853)

I wonder what the speed of that little thing is. I noticed that the moon just about doubled in apparent size in the space of twenty minutes, according to the comments under the photos.

--

Oblig. (1)

tygerstripes (832644) | more than 6 years ago | (#20938299)

"That's no moon..."

So I am guessing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20938355)

That *this* is the ministry in charge of Gundam.
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