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Wii 'Popularity Bubble' to Burst?

Zonk posted more than 6 years ago | from the it's-a-big-one dept.

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A combination of industry and developer observations has prompted Tech.co.uk to wonder if the Wii's overwhelming popularity is due to end sometime soon. This is based on a report from Japanese business newspaper The Nikkei, which published an article recently entitled 'Software Houses Miscalculate Audience, Demand For Wii'. "The report goes on to discuss the likelihood that many Wiis are gathering dust in owners' cupboards, citing one software house president as saying, 'People bought it out of curiosity, and it's likely a lot of them haven't used it.' Given that September saw Wii sales fall sharply in Japan for the second consecutive month, it seems reasonable to speculate that the bubble inflated by the novelty factor is starting to deflate, but writing Nintendo off at any stage is a perilous course to steer." Is this just worrying, or is there validity to this?

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Nintendo's new motto: (3, Funny)

Spy der Mann (805235) | more than 6 years ago | (#20956661)

"Wii are bored".

Re:Nintendo's new motto: (4, Interesting)

woohoodonuts (734070) | more than 6 years ago | (#20956861)

Bored and worried about saving for Christmas, would be more correct. While I'm still excited about the wii, I'm also sitting around waiting for the new mario Galaxy game to be released. I finished beating Zelda, never was too fond of 1st person shooters (Metroid Prime) and so am left with a small gap until the holiday season allows my game spending budget to pick up another game or two. Since I only buy a few games a year, I don't take changes. When Brawl and Galaxy come out, I'll buy. Since Nintendo has cultivated a mostly Non-hardcore gamer market, the majority of their customers are only going to buy the AAA titles because that's what they hear about in the media. Most of those will be released in the coming months.

Re:Nintendo's new motto: (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20957089)

as far as fps's go I wouldn't throw metriod prime 3 into that category, it's really much closer to zelda TP IMO

Re:Nintendo's new motto: (1, Informative)

JoshJ (1009085) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957487)

Metroid Prime 3 isn't really a FPS. It's more of a first-person Zelda game, with less well-defined "dungeons" (there's a lot of backtracking, needing items from THIS planet in order to do stuff on THAT planet, etc); it just happens to have a FPS viewpoint+combat system.

Redirect shipments... (3, Insightful)

JayDot (920899) | more than 6 years ago | (#20956669)

from Japan to the US. I still can't get one in a major metro area of WI. And I can see at least 5 games that I want to play.

Re:Redirect shipments... (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20956693)

In other news: Wisconsin has major metro areas

Re:Redirect shipments... (1)

Neoprofin (871029) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957073)

Milwaukee is the 11th largest in the US. Madison is not, but then again I know plenty of people who got Wiis here months ago.

Re:Redirect shipments... (2, Informative)

CrabbMan (724775) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957645)

This does not even matter, but Milwaukee is not the #11 metro area in the states. Not even top 25.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_metropolitan_area [wikipedia.org]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milwaukee,_Wisconsin [wikipedia.org]

That is, according to wikipedia, so keep the NaCl handy. . .

Re:Redirect shipments... (1)

butterflysrage (1066514) | more than 6 years ago | (#20956747)

agreed, the first and only Wii I have ever seen in store was the last one in stock at a Toys 'R Us in someones cart.

if this is what a burst bubble looks like... damn.

Re:Redirect shipments... (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20957019)

The Wii will be in short supply for the next few weeks. They have postponed the current orders because they are rolling out a new model to thwart the modchips. They have told the stores that there's a fault in the design of those already being sold, and the new model will be out for the end of October.

So unless your chosen store has stock right now, it'll be a good couple of weeks before they see new inventory. Of course, there are tons on ebay.

The better question (1, Informative)

pthor1231 (885423) | more than 6 years ago | (#20956697)

is who gives a shit if this so called "Popularity bubble" bursts? Honestly, will anything be different? Will your wii not work anymore?

Dude, Where's my games? (1)

WileyC (188236) | more than 6 years ago | (#20956771)

Unpopular systems get few new games made for them. Popular systems get many new games made for them. If you have a Wii, you really should care.

In other words, when was the last time you saw an Atari 5200 game hit the market? =)

Re:Dude, Where's my games? (3, Funny)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957049)

In other words, when was the last time you saw an Atari 5200 game hit the market?

The much anticipated Adventure II [atariage.com] finally hit the market just a few months ago. Though I'll grant you that new games for the 5200 are nowhere near as common as the Atari 2600 [atariage.com] releases. The 2600 is just more popular, I'm afraid. :P

Re:The better question (4, Insightful)

XxtraLarGe (551297) | more than 6 years ago | (#20956801)

Honestly, will anything be different?
Well, people who don't have one may actually be able to find one on the shelves...

Re:The better question (2, Insightful)

Carnildo (712617) | more than 6 years ago | (#20956805)

who gives a shit if this so called "Popularity bubble" bursts? Honestly, will anything be different? Will your wii not work anymore?


No, but if the Wii becomes less popular, there might be fewer third-party games for it.

Re:The better question (0, Troll)

quanticle (843097) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957817)

As if there were really any AAA third-party games for the Wii anyway. I don't see anything like Bioshock or Gears of War on the horizon for Nintendo. Its the same as the Gamecube - the AAA titles will be from Nintendo while everyone else will make ports of games from other consoles.

Re:The better question (1)

obergfellja (947995) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957263)

Wii are saving up money for Wii-nter celebration (christmas, Honnica [sp?], other winter celebrations)

Re:The better question (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20957579)

Honnica [sp?]

Hanukkah. Did you even TRY to spell it?

That's what I thought about the Dreamcast too (4, Insightful)

Moraelin (679338) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957301)

Well, that's what I thought about the Dreamcast too. I mean, who cares if it only sold a fraction of what the PS2 was selling? Mine will still work, right? And Sega will surely keep making games for it, right?

Well, I'm proud to say, I was partially right there. My Dreamcast still works flawlessly. Hasn't had a new game made for it for a damn long time now, though.

Seriously, the prices of developping a new game are insane these days. Actually, make it: for a decade or so now, and it's only getting worse. So they need a certain market size just to recoup the costs.

And no matter what game you make for a console, not every single owner of that console will buy it. Doesn't matter what game it is. Even Hallo 3, not every XBox owner on the planet bought it. And that was a major success. You have to hedge your bets a bit for the case when it's a lot less of a success. I.e., you have to have a bit of a safety margin there.

So if a bubble bursts, it can be bad news. But, hey, your own console will keep working.

And before someone pipes up with "But Nintendo itself will keep making games for it"... well, so much good that did to the popularity of the N64, eh?

Re:That's what I thought about the Dreamcast too (2, Interesting)

orclevegam (940336) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957447)

Well, I'm proud to say, I was partially right there. My Dreamcast still works flawlessly. Hasn't had a new game made for it for a damn long time now, though.

Not strictly true. Hasn't had a US game made in a long time, but it's still possible to get new releases for it from Japan. At least as of a year ago, I think I heard somewhere that they finally stopped making Dreamcast games even in Japan recently.

Re:That's what I thought about the Dreamcast too (2, Funny)

Moraelin (679338) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957553)

Well, that's reassuring to know. Now I regret that I never learned Japanese, though ;)

Re:The better question (1)

tbannist (230135) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957379)

If some game companies end up having over-extended themselves banking on big sales for the Wii and they never appear there could be bankrupcies and cancelled games for everyone. Other than that, it's just more games related navel gazing.

If you expect that to go uncovered... Welcome to Slashdot, you must be new here.

Poor timing (4, Insightful)

Veilrap (875588) | more than 6 years ago | (#20956701)

This statement is very poorly timed and thus most likely completely inaccurate. 1. Christmas season starts soon. Christmas = high sales period. 2. Wii has 3 extremely popular games being released between now and february.

Re:Poor timing (1)

xTantrum (919048) | more than 6 years ago | (#20956757)

amen to the op. "haters!" to the japanese news paper. and "hurry up already" to my back ordered wii.

Re:Poor timing (-1, Troll)

badasscat (563442) | more than 6 years ago | (#20956963)

This statement is very poorly timed and thus most likely completely inaccurate. 1. Christmas season starts soon. Christmas = high sales period. 2. Wii has 3 extremely popular games being released between now and february.

February != the Christmas season.

The rest of your argument would only apply if the Wii existed in a vacuum. It doesn't. It's being shut out of the software top ten, its hardware sales are only 10,000 per week ahead of the PS3 at this point and that's before the 40GB model hits shelves at a lower price point. It's not as if Nintendo has no competition, and the competition's sales will rise over the Christmas season just as Nintendo's will. The trend lines for the Wii are still down, and devs are paying attention.

Re:Poor timing (4, Informative)

metamatic (202216) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957637)

The rest of your argument would only apply if the Wii existed in a vacuum. It doesn't. It's being shut out of the software top ten, its hardware sales are only 10,000 per week ahead of the PS3 at this point...


Lets look at some games sales stats for October [vgchartz.com] ...
DS 135,851
Xbox 360 129,986
Wii 95,800
PSP 91,966
PS3 29,718

And as for hardware sales: "Also worth noting - PS2 outsold PS3 2:1 this week, 360 outsold PS3 4:1, and Wii outsold PS3 3:1 this week."

Ah yes, surely victory for the PS3 is assured! The Wii is only outselling the PS3 3:1 in both hardware and games, Nintendo are doomed!

Re:Poor timing (2, Informative)

the dark hero (971268) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957429)

This statement is very poorly timed and thus most likely completely inaccurate. 1. Christmas season starts soon. Christmas = high sales period. 2. Wii has 3 extremely popular games being released between now and february.
Agreed! November is the shopping month and the new Mario comes out. Link's Crossbow training is also due out. December has a few good releases. Smash in February! Mario Kart in Spring! Mind you these are just the first party titles. We should be getting hit with the onslaught of games from developers that are just catching up(because no one expected wii to do so well) after a late start.

Re:Poor timing (2, Insightful)

ChefInnocent (667809) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957659)

Nintendo's mistake might be that many of the games people are looking forward to aren't coming out until after Christmas. I've been waiting for Smash Bros & Mario Kart. Before Christmas, the only game coming out that I will purchase is Mario Galaxy. Maybe there is something else, but they should have pushed the big titles to release before Christmas.

Another issue is that if people can't get a Nintendo, they will eventually give up on wanting one. I was lucky (and crazy enough to sit in the freezing weather) to get one when they first came out. I quite enjoy it, and play it weekly, but if I was one of the many who couldn't have got one early, I probably would have given up.

Third party developers (0, Flamebait)

EveryNickIsTaken (1054794) | more than 6 years ago | (#20956713)

Until a third party publisher releases a game that sells well on the Wii, it shouldn't be surprising that developers are shying away. (Given Nintendo's track record of dicking them over.)

Re:Third party developers (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20956865)

Like Rayman Raving Rabbids?

Shying away like Monster Hunt 3 going exclusive to the wii?

Re:Third party developers (1)

EveryNickIsTaken (1054794) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957081)

RRR was a cookie cutter mini-games fest. Fun for a few hours, but that's the extent of it.


Monster Hunt 3 will likely sell well in Japan, as expected. Do you honestly think it's going to be a hit in the US?

Re:Third party developers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20957319)

You asked some questions.

I showed you were wrong and then you moved the goal posts.

Who cares what kind of game RRR was! It sold well. I showed you were wrong.

Do game styles you don't like somehow don't count? If a game makes money from a game style you don't like, are you suggesting it's not real money.

Who cares Monster Hunter 3 is in Japan. They went to Wii because they said it was a better console to develop for. I showed you were wrong. Why does it in a different country make a difference? Monster Hunter is a HUGE game in Japan.

You don't think people play video games in Japan?

What you did was try to change the argument when I showed you were wrong. Grow up.

Re:Third party developers (4, Informative)

moderatorrater (1095745) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957253)

For the past week the top five games for the wii included Carnival Games at #1 and DDR at #3. Resident Evil's been up there, Rayman's been up there, and you have to go back six weeks to find one in which there aren't two games in their top five that are from a company other than nintendo. Developers that put out games for the wii have, so far, been reaping some nice benefits from the data that I've seen.

Sort of (2, Interesting)

orclevegam (940336) | more than 6 years ago | (#20956735)

Have I played my Wii much recently? Not really. I beat Metroid Prime 3, and that was fun, but other than that not to much out there interests me right now. Of course, by the same token I've played my PS2 even less than my Wii. I just don't have much time right now to spend on gaming consoles. When something like Smash Bros, or Mario Kart hits I'm sure it will see more use.

No dust. (4, Insightful)

Aladrin (926209) | more than 6 years ago | (#20956737)

I don't know anyone that has a Wii that is gathering dust, and that includes the one at my Mother's house.

Games for -all- consoles tend to be a bit lacking this year, as far as I'm concerned, but the Wii has definitely kept up with the others in terms of game count. If anything, they should be asking if the PS3s are gathering dust. There's hardly any good games yet, and the ones that ARE out came out later than their 360 counterparts. Gamers aren't known for their patience at the time of a game's release... They buy what's available.

Re:No dust. (2, Informative)

hansamurai (907719) | more than 6 years ago | (#20956949)

My Wii would be gathering dust, if I hadn't already sold it. I don't say this as flamebait or anything, but I beat Twilight Princess and then saw nothing on the near horizon so I sold it to my brother-in-law on the cheap in December 2006. Smash Bros. Brawl is the sequel to my most played game of all time so I will definitely be picking up another Wii early next year, but I don't miss our time apart. The only game that's out now that I even would have considered buying was Metroid Prime 3. I'm not really Nintendo's target demographic anymore but I do enjoy their first-party games.

Re:No dust. (3, Insightful)

gfxguy (98788) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957249)

I don't have a lot of time for games... I'd go for Zelda; Metroid Prime is not my cup of tea...

That doesn't seem to leave a lot. I lucked into finding a Wii last month, and I have Pirates of the Caribbean (only because I though my wife would like it after seeing a video of people playing) and Pokemon Revolution (for the kids).

I've always though those Pokemon games sucked, and still do, but they seem to like it enough. Pirates is OK, I suppose; but we still play bowling a LOT. Really, we could have gone without any other games and we'd still be enjoying it, but I want to see some interesting games soon.

So the only problem I see is that people still love their Wiis, there just doesn't seem to be a whole lot of quality games for them.

non-gamer Wii buyer expectations (1)

icsEater (1093717) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957521)

Actually this is interesting because my non-gamer friend also sold their Wii. He actually stood in line and managed to nab a Wii last Christmas. After the initial interest and curiosity died down, their 6-yrs old son (now 7), seem to enjoy the old Gamecube I lent them. I'm guessing it's because I had all the best games for the GameCube, while their Wii was limited to the Wii Sports and a handful of mediocre titles. It's all about the games you buy. There needs to be an easier way for non-gamers to learn how to choose and buy games. Right now it's more of an "appliance" or "toy" mindset. You buy it, and they're supposed to just play with it for a long time. They sold their Wii two weeks ago and bought a PS3 instead. The free demo games are a nice way for providing "unlimited" entertainment value for their son -- at least for right now.

Re:non-gamer Wii buyer expectations (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20957681)

Did they not know the Wii has full backwards compatibility with Gamecube games? Sounds like an unneeded waste.

Re:No dust. (1)

ivan256 (17499) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957039)

Hi, nice to meet you.

I have barely used by Wii since I got my PS3 in June. Why? Nothing good has come out for it, plain and simple.

Don't get me wrong, it's not like I'm running home to play with the PS3 every night either, but there has been a fairly steady stream of PS3-specific downloadable tiles for the PS3, and all the Wii's got is more mini-games, and the virtual console stuff. Stuff on the shelves at the store isn't compelling at the listed pricepoint, Zelda doesn't have very much replay value, and downloadable Wii titles don't exist...

Sure, when there are people over, we'll play on the Wii. But other than that, I'm waiting for the games.

Re:No dust. (1)

misterooga (1172837) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957057)

Yeah, mine is not gathering dust since I put it away in a plastic bag... I think I might lend it to my brother soon. Having said that, it has been great at BBQ parties where we took out our TV and set it out in the backyard so we can play wii sports without hurting each other. I think it's just the matter of how busy you are. I spend more time on DS since I can use it while I commute. PC/wii, not so much.

Re:No dust. (3, Insightful)

techstar25 (556988) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957175)

As software/hardware maker, which would you prefer: The Wii gathering dust in people's homes, or the PS3 gathering dust on store shelves.
Let's not forget, Christmas is just a couple of months away, and the Wii is the hot item once again.

Re:No dust. (3, Informative)

Wordplay (54438) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957217)

I have all of the major consoles, and of them, the Wii is the least-played, and the Xbox 360 is the most-played, with the PS3 in the middle. The PS3 only has a handful of good on-disc games, but as the other guy who replied mentioned, the downloadables save the system. Many of the downloadable games are very high quality.

Re:No dust. (1)

EveryNickIsTaken (1054794) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957237)

Games for -all- consoles tend to be a bit lacking this year, as far as I'm concerned
Well, I'd imagine you don't have a 360, then. This has been MS's year as far as AAA games being released: Halo 3, Bioshock, Blue Dragon(US), Eternal Sonata, Guitar Hero 2/3, Rock band, Mass Effect, Orange box, and more.
Of course, if you don't like FPSs, RPGs, or music games, you'd likely say that this year's games sucked then.

Re:No dust. (1)

orclevegam (940336) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957413)

I don't do FPS on consoles (Metroid Prime being an exception, but as some have pointed out it's not strictly speaking an FPS). I'm somewhat interested in Mass Effect, but like Bioshock I'll probably play it on PC instead of buying an 360. Honestly at this point I don't see a very compelling reason to buy a 360 when between my PC and PS2 I've got just about every game available for the 360 that I'm interested in.

Is your mom also buying new games? (2, Insightful)

LordZardoz (155141) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957329)

If your mom plays the heck out of Wii Sports, that is ok for Nintendo. But if that is all your mom does with it, than things could be better. Sure, Nintendo is making a profit on every Wii sold, but they also want to make yet more money. They (and Sony and Microsoft) usually do this by getting you to keep buying new games.

For a 3rd party publisher, the fact that your mom really likes Wii Sports does not do them much good. They did not make Wii Sports, and they sure as hell aren't getting a cut of the profits on the hardware. If 3rd party publishers cannot make successful games on the Wii, than there will be problems down the line for the Wii.

Most 3rd party dev's were caught off guard by the Wii. In the past year, most of those that did not jump on early have only really managed a few quick and dirty port jobs. In order for the 3rd parties to do well, they have to figure out how to make games that appeal to the Wii install base.

I am certain that the first 3rd party game that will do well on the Wii will be Guitar Hero 3. Beyond that, I am not at all sure what else is in the pipeline for the Wii from 3rd parties that will work well. I myself want more core type games (Metroid 3) to come out on that system. But if the gamers who buy those games are all on the Xbox 360, than that is where those games will come out.

END COMMUNICATION

Re:No dust. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20957513)

I don't know anyone that has a Wii that is gathering dust

That's nice. I don't know any Indian people, therefore all that stuff I've been reading about a country called "India" is just a myth, right? You are a stupid stupid stupid stupid.

strange premise... (5, Insightful)

russ1337 (938915) | more than 6 years ago | (#20956779)

The report goes on to discuss the likelihood that many Wiis are gathering dust in owners' cupboards, citing one software house president as saying, 'People bought it out of curiosity, and it's likely a lot of them haven't used it.' Given that September saw Wii sales fall sharply in Japan for the second consecutive month, it seems reasonable to speculate that the bubble inflated by the novelty factor is starting to deflate, but writing Nintendo off at any stage is a perilous course to steer
It also 'seems reasonable' to speculate that the decline in sales is because everyone has already bought one....

It also 'seems reasonable' to speculate that everyone who bought one still plays it every night...

They should have added "It 'seems reasonable' that the company the 'software house president' works for isn't selling as many games as they would like because their particular games suck balls."

Re:strange premise... (1)

Generic Guy (678542) | more than 6 years ago | (#20956941)

the 'software house president' works for isn't selling as many games as they would like because their particular games suck balls."

If I only had mod points for you.

Aside from big N's own first party titles, the Wii is suffering a lot of shovelware. After two generations of lackluster market performance, Studios practically ignored the newest Nintendo machine, only to be dumbfounded by its roaring success. Thus, when all the crappy, derivative "wagglemote" games were pushed quickly to market, the same studios are now wondering why their crapware isn't selling.

(Personally, I'd be more worried about the studios who hitched their train to PS3. Given North American numbers, I don't think a single PS3 software title has sold even a quarter-million units.)

Re:strange premise... (1)

orclevegam (940336) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957581)

Most people are probably like me and would love to own a PS3. Just as soon as the price drops below $300 for the system, a game, and a controller. Until then I don't care how nice the games are, I'm not paying $500+ for a game system. For that kind of money I'd be well on my way to a really nice gaming rig that I could also use professionally (and count as a business expense).

Re:strange premise... (1)

king-manic (409855) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957163)

It also 'seems reasonable' to speculate that everyone who bought one still plays it every night...

That is an unreasonable speculation because we have no data denying or supporting that claim and it's not intuitively correct either. Many people buy things and do not use them. Most use them but not every night. So it does not seem reasonable that people who bought wii's use them every night.

Re:strange premise... (5, Funny)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957213)

They should have added "It 'seems reasonable' that the company the 'software house president' works for isn't selling as many games as they would like because their particular games suck balls."
Given the Wii's proclivity for innovative controllers, one that sucks balls could be a huge hit.

Re:strange premise... (1)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957595)

Given the Wii's proclivity for innovative controllers, one that sucks balls could be a huge hit.

I'm in!

I have no idea what kind of game I'd play with it, but ... I for one welcome our new ball-sucking overlords.
 
:-P

Re:strange premise... (1)

repsychal (1145133) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957241)

It doesn't matter if every Wii is played 24/7 - the problem is, no one is buying games for the Wii. Wii Play had great sales (because everyone needed a second controller) - and Metriod Prime did 'ok' but your games per console for the Wii is the lowest of the three 'next gen' consoles. If every Wii owner plays Wii Sports and doesn't buy anything else for their Wii - it's a flop. It'd be like everyone buying a dvd player and never buying any dvd's for it...

Wii Bubble (2, Informative)

LightPhoenix7 (1070028) | more than 6 years ago | (#20956787)

I definitely think there's cause for caution with regards to a Wii "bubble" bursting. However, I also think that we're only just now starting to see big games come out for the platform, and that will support the popularity more and more as time passes. The only big name game we've gotten is Zelda. Metroid just came out. The Big Three Mario games (platformer, racing, fighting) haven't hit the console yet, and won't until next year. That's going to step up the support for the platform. So until then, I think it's right to worry, but I think in the long term there's not much to worry about.

Re:Wii Bubble (1)

VTMarik (880085) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957369)

There is no Wii "bubble." Those who want them have them, and they're playing not only retail games, but games from the Virtual Console as well.

There is nothing to worry about, it's the pre-Christmas lull that has always existed. It's a meager attempt to engender some kind of market fear.

Another explanation? (1)

Solra Bizna (716281) | more than 6 years ago | (#20956793)

Isn't it also possible that, given the Wii's phenomenal sales 'till now, everyone who wants one has one?

No matter how much I decide to like the Wii, I highly doubt I'll be buying two any time soon.

-:sigma.SB

Re:Another explanation? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20957055)

September and October are always the slowest times for console sales in Japan. Even the PS2 came down to 20-30k per week every September and October. The PS3 is down to a little over 10k per week. The 360 is the exception. Due to Halo it's now selling over 5k a week as opposed to its usual 2-3k per week.

Wii sales in the US are still steady at a little under 100k per week. Nintendo has promised there will be at least double the number of Wiis there were at launch this Christmas so it should be an interesting holiday season.

Yes, but not how you meant that (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20957541)

Everyone who wants one has one? I suppose you're right. I did want one, but having wasted much time trying to find one to buy, I no longer want one. Playing games on my PC is way more fun than failing to buy a Wii. And the upcoming Christmas season isn't going to make finding one any easier.

Re:Another explanation? (1)

Atroxodisse (307053) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957717)

I know lots of people who want one but haven't got one yet. Including me...

Oh please. (3, Interesting)

Naelok (1162515) | more than 6 years ago | (#20956795)

With all the heavy hitters that Wii has lined up in the next few months, one can only conclude that this article is BS. I bet these are the same 'analysts' who predicted that Nintendo would remain a distant third last year at about this time. They were wrong then and they're wrong now.

Really bad assumptions (3, Informative)

milamber3 (173273) | more than 6 years ago | (#20956797)

Suggesting that tons of people bought the Wii and have never even used it is a really awful assumption. While it's true some people will buy it and use it less often than other's that's not to say it will sit in a box collecting dust. I got the Wii on launch day and my girlfriend and I have gone through periods where we use the Wii and lot and then periods when we dont play for a while. It has more to do with our jobs then a lack of interest. Some of the games we most want to play have not even come out yet. Regardless, the Wii does not have some special characteristic that will make people lose interest and not buy games for it any more that they would for the PS3 or Xbox 360.

Balls Back In Boys (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20956827)

Wii flaccidating time :(

Who could've guessed!? (2, Interesting)

el_chupanegre (1052384) | more than 6 years ago | (#20956851)

Welcome to 4 months ago. That's the last time I bought a game for mine.

It was fun at first, and my dad still asks me to play a game of golf with him on it, but seriously, the novelty wears off very quickly.

I think most of the problem stems from the lack of original gameplay. The games that I bought were ones that just wouldn't work nearly as well with a different control scheme. Kororinpa is the best example. Using the wiimote to move the screen around is very intuitive and very fun.

But look at the raft of games coming out at the moment: Fifa 2008, Madden 08 and about 6 different kid's films adaptations. What makes me get this for my Wii instead of my 360? The control scheme is the Wii's only advantage, and what advantage does it have in anything that's coming out at the moment?

Most of the time when they do try and take advantage of the controls, it comes off worse anyway. Apparently Trauma Centre: Second Opinion is just far too fiddly and how many of us have stood spinning in a circle looking at the sky in an FPS?

I would love to see this succeed because for once someone tried something new, but with a lack of original content, what could you possibly achieve over the competition? To be honest, we all saw this coming

A similar case? (3, Interesting)

metroid composite (710698) | more than 6 years ago | (#20956857)

In the months leading up to the release of Halo 3, XBox 360s dropped and dropped in monthly sales.

In the months leading up to the release of [Super Mario Galaxy], [Wiis] dropped and dropped in monthly sales.


Not to say the Wii's popularity isn't dropping, I just think it's too early to draw a definitive conclusion here.

Not surprising... (1, Insightful)

badasscat (563442) | more than 6 years ago | (#20956869)

I hate to say "I told you so" but there are a lot of us doing just that these days. It's too early to say this is a definitive trend, and it also might really only apply to one territory, but I personally think it's going to continue to play out, and worldwide.

Nintendo's made no secret of trying to attract "casual gamers" - housewives, girls, the elderly. They appeal directly to those groups in their ads. Their most heavily hyped "games" - if you can even call stuff like "Wii Fit" a "game" - are geared towards them.

So they package "Wii Sports" in with the system (or "Wii Play", I can't remember which one Japan got), those casual gamers buy it and I guarantee half of them don't even realize there are other games available for the system. If they do, they don't care - they're casual gamers, they're not out buying a new game every week. They're content with their pack-in game, and when they lose interest in it, the system just gets stuffed into a closet and forgotten.

It's happening. Look at the Japanese software charts, not just the hardware charts. Not a single Wii game in the top ten last week, this on supposedly the most popular console in Japan. That's actually not even unusual these days. Devs have to be taking notice of this by now, and the Nikkei article suggests that they are.

The only question in my mind is whether or not it's too late to turn things around. I think that certainly a few of the big games in the pipeline will help, but then the competition's got big games in the pipeline too (not to mention a price drop). So it's not going to get any easier for Nintendo. And they've already pretty much cemented the system's reputation, through their own doing. Not many hardcore gamers in any territory are going to want to own the system that their grandma and little sister thinks is cool. That probably sounds harsh, but that's the way 18-24 year old males think, and they make up the majority of hardcore gamers.

Whether or not the Wii continues to outsell the PS3 and Xbox 360 (by whatever shrinking margin it can muster), the big problem for them is that games aren't selling, really at all. That will in turn mean less third-party support, which will in turn mean fewer hardware sales in the long run. It's basically the GameCube all over again. These trends have a way of being self-perpetuating vicious cycles once they get started.

Of course, Nintendo will always have handhelds to rely on. The DS continues to be a money machine, though it's running neck and neck with the PSP in Japan right now too (and was beaten handily week before last, with the PSP redesign and Crisis Core launch).

Re:Not surprising... (3, Informative)

Volante3192 (953645) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957015)

So they package "Wii Sports" in with the system (or "Wii Play", I can't remember which one Japan got)

Japan didn't come with a bundled game.

Re:Not surprising... (1)

LarryRiedel (141315) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957363)

Japan didn't come with a bundled game.

I think it was worth it anyway.

Larry

Re:Not surprising... (0, Offtopic)

DeepZenPill (585656) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957737)

Yeah no games, but I believe Japan's bundle at the end of WWII came with a few military bases.

Re:Not surprising... (1)

alph0ns3 (547254) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957143)

Hum...

The Wii had 4 (Play, Metroid, Strikers, Party) of the top 10 sellers in August, you know (In the US)

360: 2 (Madden and BioShock)

PS3: 1 (Madden)

Re:Not surprising... (1)

INeededALogin (771371) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957295)

So let me get this right... You are saying that casual gamers that Nintendo has targeted do not buy games and that the console gathers dust from these gamers. Yet, the Wii has dominated the Sales charts for the last 10 months. If your first statement was correct, I would of never expected any of the new games to be top 10 hits(especially when they only had a million consoles). The fact is that I own a Wii, am a very casual gamer and have visited a store looking for a new Wii game to buy for the last 3 weeks. I have bought more games for the Wii than I had for the super nintendo

I do think the novelty of carnival games has worn off. As long as 3rd party people keep releasing those(and don't do anything new) then they will be disappointed.

Also, I was surprised to see the PSP beating the DS by such a large amont last week, but you answered the question. Nobody was surprised when the XBox360 sold more consoles than the PS2. Nobody was surprised when the DS Lite sold more consoles than the regular DS. New consoles(even redesigns) generate sales. It is long-term sales that really matter and the PSP needs to repeat last weeks performance for another year or two to really matter.

Re:Not surprising... (1)

analog_line (465182) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957545)

The DS continues to be a money machine, though it's running neck and neck with the PSP in Japan right now too (and was beaten handily week before last, with the PSP redesign and Crisis Core launch).


When just about every man woman and child in Japan has a DS, you're going to see sales fall off. Only so many people need two or more of them. A redesigned PSP means that people who could afford a second console may be buying a PSP, simmilar to how the GameCube got a reputation as a "second console" in America.

Re:Not surprising... (1)

DeepZenPill (585656) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957599)

Right on. I'm a big fan of Nintendo, I'm attached to its major franchises, and spent plenty of time playing my Gamecube. I wanted to play the next Zelda, the next Mario Kart, Smash Brothers, Metroid Prime, etc, but the whole motion controller gimmick has really turned me off from the system. I go to the gym for my daily exercise; I don't sit in front of the TV waving my arm around for it. The Wiimote was interesting at first but forcing its use in every game just doesn't make sense. This view is usually written off as that of a hardcore gamers, and not Nintendo's target audience, but hardcore gamers are the ones who buy multiple games.

Casual gamers, by their very nature, only play games casually and are not likely to continually buy new games. They're not going to burn through their games and look for the next great title. The incredible number of sales to casual gamers may serve as a beachhead to get developers to notice the popularity of the system, but they need to sustain sales of games for it to be a viable platform.

I owned a total of 4 games for the original Xbox because I found the library to be somewhat lacking, I now own 18 for the 360 because of an outstanding library of good games. There are at least a half dozen Wii games I would like to own at this point, but I just want to play with a normal controller. I also don't want to commit my dollars to buy a system where the novelty is the driving sales force which might die out prematurely.

Re:Not surprising... (2, Insightful)

bigstrat2003 (1058574) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957641)

Not many hardcore gamers in any territory are going to want to own the system that their grandma and little sister thinks is cool. That probably sounds harsh, but that's the way 18-24 year old males think
No, that's the way that 13-18 year old males think, maybe 13-20. Once you get above 20 or so, in my experience, people grow the fuck up, and buy a console based on what it has available, not whether their grandma or little sister likes it. Hell, I'm 22, and a proud Wii owner.

Shoddy article (2, Insightful)

Felonius Thunk (168604) | more than 6 years ago | (#20956883)

Without a shred of evidence, this merely echoes some other newspaper article without investigation. This is no better than an "ask slashdot". The other article apparently says Wii sales declined two months in a row, without saying if other consoles gained. I assume the Halo effect (heh) help Xbox even in Japan, so we should expect to see some spike there, but I'd be more curious to hear about sales from the studios' POV. Are there any Wii titles they were late to put on the platform that have sold better/poorer than expected? Any that outsell the other platforms' version? I suspect this kind of article is mere hope from the harder core gaming crowd, trying to blow the Wii like they had done before launch.

needs more games (1)

DreadSpoon (653424) | more than 6 years ago | (#20956909)

I'll admit, I'm getting a little irritated with my Wii purchase. I've played a handful of games on it, and that's about it - there's nothing else out I want to play. Worse, the only titles coming out in the near future (within the next 6 months) that even sound halfway decent are Nintendo titles.

Where are all the 3rd party developers?

The DS had the same problem. Even now, most of the truly good DS games are Nintendo first-party titles (although I have a number of well-liked third-party titles on my DS). Hopefully the Wii just needs a little more time to build up a library, like the DS did.

Re:needs more games (1)

king-manic (409855) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957259)


The DS had the same problem. Even now, most of the truly good DS games are Nintendo first-party titles (although I have a number of well-liked third-party titles on my DS). Hopefully the Wii just needs a little more time to build up a library, like the DS did.


The wii i agree but the DS? I have a library of about 30 games only 2 are Nintendo. Nintendogs (GF compelled purchase) and Super Mario. The ones I play most are either Atlus, Konami, or square. Each releasing tons of games on the DS.

current hardware sales are a weak indicator (1)

acidrain (35064) | more than 6 years ago | (#20956925)

It's also possible that everyone who would be buying games now has a wii and things couldn't get any better for game developers. "Installed base" is much more important than current hardware sales. And finally, *the amount of people buying wii games* is what really matters. As a developer thats all I'd look at. Anyone got the numbers for that in Japan?

I agree (4, Insightful)

RogueyWon (735973) | more than 6 years ago | (#20956951)

I know my credibility on this issue is near zero around these parts, as I've not been afraid to state all along that the Wii is over-hyped, but I agree with the fundamental tennet of this argument; many Wiis are not getting used because there is very little on them worth playing for more than about 10 minutes at a time. Looking at the "new releases" reviews on the average game-site (IGN is my personal preference, but your mileage may vary), it's easy to see that games coming out for the Wii mainly fall into 3 categories; "party" games (or extended tech demos, as I tend to think of them), rushed and nasty cross-platform ports and virtual console games (whose quality varies from the stellar to the derisory - but which many games will have been emulating for free for years).

The first category are ok on occasions when you have friends over, but are no use at all the rest of the time. A brief glance at gamerankings will show just how badly Wii ports of cross-platform games tend to fare. And virtual console games... well... great... but I don't want to spend all my time on my new console playing games that came out a decade ago.

There are a tiny number of other titles which actually have some gameplay value. Zelda is ok... slightly above average for its genre. Metroid Prime 3 is pretty good, although I still have problems with the backtrackeriffic gameplay style of Metroid games. Resident Evil 4 remains one of the only two cross platform games to actually be enhanced through being on the Wii (the other being Rayman Raving Rabbids, which falls into the "insipid party games" category anyway).

I know what people are going to say at this point; the Wii isn't for me, it's for the casual crowd. Thing is, I suspect that over time, even the average Joe will realise that, cheap though the Wii is, the limited use it eventually gets still means its horrible value for money.

Right now, Nintendo have things pretty easy. They had an unprecedented hype-machine for the launch of the console and some excellent initial sales. However, it seems to me that for those of us in the UK, the comparison to Gordon Brown's political honeymoon as Prime Minister are most appropriate; there comes a point at which people realise there's no substance there and the wheels fall off spectacularly. Happily for Nintendo, Sony continue to shoot themselves in the foot at every opportunity. They have an excellent machine out there, which, despite the high price-tag, is significantly more future-proof than any of its competitors (especially with the Blu-Ray drive, which is looking like a better and better idea). However, because they've mismanaged their relationships with developers and insisted on pushing their horribly broken and unnecessary motion-sensing controller, they've yet to attract a significantly better range of games than the Wii (although at least the PS3 has slightly more in the way of "substantial" games).

My instinct still stays that when all the dust settles, the slow-but-steady pace set by the 360, with no gimmicks, few headline-grabbing features, but an increasingly solid and well-rounded games lineup will win the day.

Re:I agree (1)

king-manic (409855) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957303)


My instinct still stays that when all the dust settles, the slow-but-steady pace set by the 360, with no gimmicks, few headline-grabbing features, but an increasingly solid and well-rounded games lineup will win the day.


In the North America. Worldwide the 360 is moving like N-gages outside N.A.

Re:I agree (1)

sammyF70 (1154563) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957437)

Someho, you fail to consider the fact that people buying the Wii are perhaps looking for something to use when friends come over. Personally, if I want to play alone, I'll just boot Windows and play on my computer. Generally deeper gameplay, better controls (mouse+AWSD ftw!), mods and add-ons (Oblivion anyone?), and grafically/audio wise, if my comp isn't on par with current consoles yet, it will probably be next year. When I buy a console, it's to play with friends, and that's where party games shine (thus the name:P, and so do beat'em up. Any type of game that can only be played solo is pointless. The Wii is a party console, with party games ... and that's probably why it's been so successfull so far. We'll have to see how it fares over christmas, but I wouldn't be surprised it the sales went up a bit again.

Re:I agree (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20957511)

Thing is, I suspect that over time, even the average Joe will realise that, cheap though the Wii is, the limited use it eventually gets still means its horrible value for money.

If you're rehearsing for the role of Captain Kirk, it was already cast.

Novelty, yes, burst no. (1)

Devir (671031) | more than 6 years ago | (#20956985)

The Wii is a novelty in the sense it is new, and quite a few of the current games are novelty games. Games with minimal graphics and quick to develop and hit the shelves (monkey ball, wario ware...) and host a short short quick game play. My Wii has collected dust shortly after I bought it about 6 months ago.

Granted, the long term of the Wii will ride on "anchor" games like the Metroid and Zelda franchises. I loved Zelda, and it looked fantastic on the Wii. Metroid P3 Is also a fantastic game. It looks great and makes amazing use of the Wii Mote. Games what these will be what will become the mainstay of the Wii and give it the holding power it needs to succeed.

I had Neglected to mention the Resident Evil 4 port. I had the GC version and bought the Wii one when it came out. I would have to say it gave RE new life. Granted I haven't played it in quite some time, there is a good chance I'll be going back to finish Wii RE4.

I know analysts love to pop bubbles and spew negativity at things that are succeeding, possibly to devalue the item in question. I would really have to say that while the Wii is a "Novelty bubble" now, it will, if managed right, sweep into being a mainstay console. THey just need more high production games like MEtroid, RE and Zelda. (Not those particular franchise but High quality...)

I'll take a further step into the pointed edge of the sword and dare to say that I believe the PS3 will be here to stay as well. Sony makes stupid mistakes, that is unquestionable. But with built in Blue Ray, and upscaling/smoothing of PS2 games it has a slight edge. Sure they are releasing bargain bin PS3 with no BC but that is hopefully a market water "test". In fact for the last 3 months ownership, I've only played PS2 games on the PS3.

dusty (1)

el_coyotexdk (1045108) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957001)

hmm my wii is tretty dusty, but thats just because i dont clean it :P i still use it almost everytime i have people over. girls love it, so ya!

dusty or lusty?! (1)

freshmayka (1043432) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957197)

I read on a gamer forum that "Wii = teh sex" so... if that is indeed true, I would imagine that demand for Wii will continue to increase...

                          increase some more...

                                                        increase to a very large size...

                                                                                                              and then rapidly decrease in size, lose all interest, and begin to feel slightly guilty for playing with the Wii that way.

Re:dusty (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20957457)

All I gotta say is Mario Party 8 + beer/liquor makes for an easy, interesting, changing drinking game that anyone can play.

This same exact thing happened to... nobody... (1)

machinecraig (657304) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957109)

You remember all those other game consoles that had HUGE initial success, that had a massive game lineup and huge developer support, that everybody loved - - - and then people just got sick of it and the company went out of business?

Yeah, I don't remember any consoles like that either.

Re:This same exact thing happened to... nobody... (1)

sammyF70 (1154563) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957227)

*cough*Dreamcast*cough*

Re:This same exact thing happened to... nobody... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20957523)

"You remember all those other game consoles that had HUGE initial success, that had a massive game lineup and huge developer support, that everybody loved - - - and then people just got sick of it and the company went out of business?"

You mean Nintendo 64 and Dreamcast?

Yep, I remember those.

Re:This same exact thing happened to... nobody... (1)

spiderbitendeath (577712) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957779)

Neither of those companies went out of business. One just went out of consoles.

... in Japan (1)

Optic7 (688717) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957193)

The demand has dropped in Japan because they probably have sold one to just about anyone that was likely to ever buy a TV console system. In the US, the Wii is still very hard to find. I'm looking to buy one, and have called probably 10-20 stores around work and home and none of them have them in stock. Most stores are receiving regular shipments but they sell out within a day or two.

In other words, the Wii may be at that point in its popularity curve in Japan, but it's far from it here in the US.

Sales Fluctuation (1)

binaryspiral (784263) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957311)

Combination of Halo 3 on the Xbox 360 making a killing on the console market and the pre-Christmas season spending lull. I expected a drop in console sales for any platform that didn't have a fresh killer game like Halo 3.

Everyone I've talked to that owns a Wii is still playing the Wii sports and some of the original games, but are fully prepared to lay down some hard cash for Nintendo's holiday releases.

I love how this gets rolled into a major fud story.

Does Netcraft confirm it? (1)

smurfsurf (892933) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957517)

I don't believe any of it unless Netcraft adds the Wii to its soon-dead list.

The best is yet to come. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20957537)

Honestly. What are the killer games for the wii? One of the biggest is a port from the gamecube (twilight princess)! One isn't even out yet (and don't tell me nobody bought a wii for Brawl...)!

But seriously, it's a new system. The 360 and PS3 can say the same thing... but they are just hardware upgrades. The wii has an entirely new control scheme, and a new input device is a lot harder to adapt to then a bigger CPU. People have begun to take advantage of it (metroid...) but it still has lots of potential. The big example is always the whole star wars thing. Lightsabers just seem such a natural fit to the wii. The problem, of course, is that it *could* be done horribly. I was *not* looking forward to the the 50 different sword/lightsaber clones a week after the wii's release. But I haven't seen any *yet* which means they aren't rushing them out - so I hold out hope it will actually be done pretty well.

Already popped for me (1)

bigdady92 (635263) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957549)

I was one of the few that waited in line overnight to purchase one of these golden machines. Hooked it up and started playing it for a few hours. Took it down to the folks house for the holidays and everyone went nuts playing it, thought it was the best thing ever. Then the lack of any good games came along. Rayman raviing rabbids? Beat it. Zelda? Biggs? Played them to death. Wii play? Wii-suck. Harry potter was something the women loved to play. Me I got bored.

Then I found the Xbox360, with gorgeous graphics, fast game play, and more titles than I could play for a lifetime. I've probably spent close to a grand in buying stuff for it and hooking it up to my 1080 LCDTV, and with XBLA me and the lady can play against each other when she's at her house and me at mine (chix love hexic, don't ask me why). I look at the wii and think "Man it's got such potential, but there's NOTHING worth playing on it" then I pickup the 360 and play another round of bioshock or Dynasty warriors against people around the world.

I like my wii, wish there was more for it, and if I could sell it for $500 with 3 controllers and all the games, it'd be gone in a heartbeat.

Wii don't care (1)

Edward Kmett (123105) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957653)

Wii don't want their shovelware. Maybe if more development houses bought into the spirit of the platform rather than try to sell us the same old crap, they'd see some money from the this miraculous new demographic that is using the Wii. Most people didn't buy a wii because they want to play [Insert Old Product Here] while waving their hands in the air, when little thought has been given to the conversion and resulting mechanics and the whole package was banged out over the weekend by an intern. And I've yet to see a title that was ported to the Wii that was as playable as it was on the original platform, so I'll wait until we have more wii-centric original games to play.

My Wii is collecting dust, but mainly because it has been waiting for Super Mario Galaxy.

Two opinions here (1)

gurps_npc (621217) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957687)

The first opinion appears to be solely based on prejudice: This thing is not for the heavy gamers.

HEY LISTEN UP!

1. You have not done a survey, you are just spouting out the same bullcrap PR produced by Sony and other companies, namely "our product is more expensive therefore better". You do NOT know what most serious gamers are doing, just what you personally are doing and from the fact that only about 50% of the posters here agree with you, I would assume that only about 50% of the 'serious gamers' agree with you that the Wii is not for them. While this is not a survey, it is a lot better than than blindly repeating your own impressions as if they belong to everyone.

2. Serious gamers don't give a crap about whether their grandma or little sister also likes it. They care about the games (see other opinion below). If Nintendo comes out with some kick ass games for the Wii, that take advantage of the cool interface instead of trying to take advantage of the high end graphics, then guess what, Serious Gamers will use it.

3. What makes you think that next year, they won't come out with a cool upgrade along the same lines that seriously boosts the popularity of the old system? Merely a new, better interface will probably be just as easy to create as creating a new game that goes with it. -------------- The other opinion is basically that people really don't care that much about the system, they care about the games. Yeah, one system might have better interface and the other better video and processing power, but the truth is that the differences between them are relatively MINOR compared to the differences between the games. That is, people would rather play a good game on a bad system than a bad game on a good system. If people were to take HALO 3 and downgrade the graphics etc. to make it work on Nintendo, People would rather play HALO 3 on Nintendo with BAD graphics than playing Tic Tac Toe on a Sony machine or an XBOX, even if it had incredibally detailed graphics and animation.

This means that the game companies have no one but themselves to blame If in fact Wii is dropping in popularity it is because the companies failed to put out good games.

The game is king, not the system.

Gathering Dust (1)

r00td43m0n (796630) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957707)

Unfortunately mine has been gathering dust. I bought the Wii as soon as it came out because I was so excited to see what Nintendo was offering and experience it first hand. I enjoyed Wii Sports when the system debuted and I thought Wario was a great game that actually took advantage of the Wii's controls, but that is where my interest started to wane.

When I started to play Twilight Princess and Resident Evil 4, I really could not get past how bad the graphics were compared to games like God of War 2 and especially Gears of War. I know graphics was something Nintendo was not mainly focusing on but RE4 for Wii barely looked as good as it did on GameCube. Not to mention a huge flood of shovelware games that companies put out because they thought any game with Wii controls would be fun, only when a handful (Wii Sports, Wario Ware, Rayman Raving Rabbits) actually used the controls well. After witnessing so many customers come into EB Games and just buy the system not to get anymore games, TFA has some validity. Many people are satisfied with Wii Sports which speaks well for Nintendo because they made a game with such lasting appeal. The big issue is that other software companies have yet to make games that are appealing in their adoption of Wii controls.

For me the big question now is, Nintendo has the third party support, but can we see anyone else besides them that makes a game that take advantage of the controls and uses the additional graphics power in the Wii?

Yeah, Right... (1)

morari (1080535) | more than 6 years ago | (#20957813)

The report goes on to discuss the likelihood that many Wiis are gathering dust in owners' cupboards[...]
I'll give anyone of these people $200 for their Wii. That seems fair since it's now in used condition and they never plan on using it again.

lack of HD output makes it less appealing to me (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20957819)

last year I had an SDTV.

I was in the "graphics don't matter" crowd because I honestly thought the difference between the wii and the PS3 were minimal on my set.

I now have a 50" HDTV, and it pains me to fire up any device that is 480p on it.

It's fuzzy.

I'm not complaining about number of polys or texture resolution, it's just that anything I play on it looks like someone smeared vaseline on my eyes.

I think spending an extra 2 bucks or so per console to get the native resolution up would have been a great investment, because I don't think it will have the same lasting power with 480p output being the best it can do.

Add to it that only platform exclusives actually work well with the remote, and Nintendo could have some staying power issues. The fanboys will scream and shout that it's jsut not true, but they are probably all still using SD sets.

Gameplay is great, and I loved my Wii the first few months, but it's been stagnant, and I've only played 2-3 games I truly enjoyed.
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