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Simon Pegg to Play Scotty

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 6 years ago | from the take-ship-go-to-mum's-kill-phil-sorry dept.

Sci-Fi 233

In response to yesterday's casting news about Chris Pine possibly taking the captain's chair for the new Star Trek movie, apparently Simon Pegg will be playing the role of Scotty. Simon Pegg is known for his role as Shaun in Shaun of the Dead and more recently for his leading role in Hot Fuzz. "Pegg joins Zoe Saldana as Uhura, Anton Yelchin as Chekov, John Cho as Sulu and Zachary Quinto as Spock in the film which reportedly, and logically, 'chronicles the early days of the Enterprise crew.' Leonard Nimoy will also put in an appearance, while Eric Bana signed up this week as the movie's villain, Nero."

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The name is Shaun, not Sean! (5, Insightful)

F-3582 (996772) | more than 6 years ago | (#20960935)

www.imdb.com is your friend.

Re:The name is Shaun, not Sean! (3, Funny)

HTH NE1 (675604) | more than 6 years ago | (#20960963)

Other acceptable titles are:
  • L' Alba dei morti dementi
  • Muertos de risa
  • Shaun dei morti
  • Shaun et les zombies
  • Shaun of the Dead
  • Shaun of the Dead - Ein Zombie kommt selten allein
  • Tea-Time of the Dead
  • Todo Mundo Quase Morto
  • Ein Zombie kommt selten allein
  • Zombies Party

Re:The name is Shaun, not Sean! (4, Funny)

stefanlasiewski (63134) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961155)

Shaaaaaaaaaaaun [khaaan.com]

Oh noes (4, Insightful)

KEnderK (1171753) | more than 6 years ago | (#20960951)

The Shat is really going to hit the fan now!

Script Link (2, Funny)

AssCork (769414) | more than 6 years ago | (#20960961)

SCOTTY DIES ON PAGE 43!
Spock kisses him ever so softly and he comes back to life - as a zombie - then Nick Frost is tasked with killing him while muttering "Can I bring any of you cunt's a drink?"

different take on Scotty (1)

hguorbray (967940) | more than 6 years ago | (#20960979)

Well....He will have less Gravitas -at least less than Doohan had in later years -and less gravity too......

I'm just hoping that he will actually speak with a Welsh accent (cf. Futurama)

After Shaun I wouldn't have been so sure about this, but Simon did a great job of character acting in Hot Fuzz and hopefully he can bring a little of the twinkle-in-the-eye humour that Doohan evinced in the TV series.

-I'm just sayin'

Re:different take on Scotty (1)

sqldr (838964) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961407)

I'm just hoping that he will actually speak with a Welsh accent (cf. Futurama)

well, for one thing, "i cannae change the laws of physacs, captain" is definiately scottish, but i'm confused at this one. I'm an englishman, and doing an authentic scottish accent (either glaswegian graawl or edinburgh posh) is tricky. Either he's been practicing, or he's got a lot of work to do. bollocks.. give the job to a scot! i love simon pegg, but not here!

Wrong guy to do Montgomery Scott. (4, Insightful)

MsGeek (162936) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961513)

Get a REAL Scot to do it. Ewan McGregor for the win. Sure, it would mean paying him silly money for it, but it would mean Ewan would get to leave his mark on not just one, but the EXACTA of geek icon movie series.

Besides, Scotty always seemed older than everyone except Bones McCoy on TOS.

Although one thing...could Ewan still do the thick-as-porridge Scots brogue he did in "Trainspotting" that required anyone not from north of Hadrian's Wall to put the closed-captioning on when watching the movie? One wonders.

Re:Wrong guy to do Montgomery Scott. (4, Funny)

meringuoid (568297) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961693)

Get a REAL Scot to do it. Ewan McGregor for the win.

Cast Obi-Wan Kenobi as Chief Engineer Montgomery Scott?

You do realise you just exploded the brains of at least two distinct sets of geeks, right?

Re:Wrong guy to do Montgomery Scott. (1)

Wandering Wombat (531833) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961935)

No kidding! I mean, they CLEARLY got the first Scotty wrong, by casting an Irish-Canadian to play a Scot. Now we're getting someone who actually HAS an accent to play a Scot? INSANITY!

Re:Wrong guy to do Montgomery Scott. (2, Interesting)

Darinbob (1142669) | more than 6 years ago | (#20962009)

Get a REAL Scot to do it. Ewan McGregor for the win.

The drawback is if Ewan insisted on doing another nude scene.

Re:Wrong guy to do Montgomery Scott. (5, Informative)

DudeTheMath (522264) | more than 6 years ago | (#20962015)

Besides, Scotty always seemed older than everyone except Bones McCoy on TOS.

Give MsGeek a cigar! For completeness: In 1966, Doohan and Kelley turned 46, Shatner and Nimoy 35, Barrett and Nichols 34, Koenig 30, and Takei 29. I had forgotten how much older than the others Doohan was until I checked IMDB last week (The Blonde & I were rooting for Paul McGillion). If we're shooting for "eight years before" ST:TOS, Pegg is just the right age (and so is Pine, who's 27). Spock, of course, doesn't age the way humans do, so should be played by someone just about Nimoy's age; Quinto just turned 30, so that's not too far off. Yelchin is 18, which isn't too far off, but Cho is 35! Well, as long as he looks the part....

Re:different take on Scotty (1)

mattcoz (856085) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961793)

It's a reference to Welshy from Futurama.

Nimoy: Nichelle! George! Walter! DeForest! [A token redshirt steps out.] Welshy!
Fry: Welshy?
Nichols: We did some musical reunion specials in the 2200's but the guy who played Scotty had trouble yodelling.
Takei: Ever since then, Welshy has been a welcome participant in our escapades.

Re:different take on Scotty (1)

thebonafortuna (1050016) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961521)

I read somewhere that James Doohan actually faked his accent while playing "Scotty"...

Re:different take on Scotty (1)

mikefoley (51521) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961707)

That's because Jimmy Doohan was Canadian.

English Scotty??? (2, Interesting)

lobiusmoop (305328) | more than 6 years ago | (#20960985)

As a Scotsman, I'm somewhat miffed that an Englishman is playing the role... This is almost as bad as Mel Gibson (an Ozzie) playing William Wallace for goodness sake!

Re:English Scotty??? (5, Informative)

Asshat Canada (804093) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961007)

Doohan was Canadian

Re:English Scotty??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20961943)

You dont seem to understand, an english person playing a scot, for any scot is a grave insult.

Re:English Scotty??? (5, Funny)

soundonsound (829141) | more than 6 years ago | (#20962025)

"Brothers and sisters are natural enemies! Like Englishmen and Scots! Or Welshmen and Scots! Or Japanese and Scots! Or Scots and other Scots! Damned Scots! They ruined Scotland!"

-"You Scots sure are a contentious people."

"You just made an enemy for life!"

Re:English Scotty??? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20961035)

Get off your high horse (or should I say bagpipes), that's why they call it ACTING sucka.

Re:English Scotty??? (1)

Daffy Duck (17350) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961039)

Doohan wasn't Scottish either. He wasn't even Canadian, for Pete's sake. Oh wait, yes he was.

And Korean Sulu (2, Informative)

richdun (672214) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961049)

And a Korean Sulu - John Cho was born in Seoul.

Re:And Korean Sulu (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20961321)

For that matter, why would a character of Japanese descent have a name including a sound that doesn't occur in Japanese? (In a similar strangeness, Ricky Ricardo in _I Love Lucy_ would say "Lucy, you got some 'splainin' to do," even though Spanish never starts a word with "sp" or "st".)

Re:And Korean Sulu (5, Funny)

porcupine8 (816071) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961451)

You think that's bad? I hear Zachary Quinto is from Earth. Pssh.

Re:English Scotty??? (1)

ndogg (158021) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961141)

Which might actually mean that Scotty might not have such an obviously fake Scottish accent that's being spoken by someone who's actually Canadian!!! :O

Re:English Scotty??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20961143)

mels family is from america. they transplanted - his father didnt want his kids going off to vietnam. not an ozzie.

Re:English Scotty??? (2, Informative)

Amiga Lover (708890) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961153)

> This is almost as bad as Mel Gibson (an Ozzie) playing William Wallace

Mel Gibson, the "aussie", who was born in new york.

Re:English Scotty??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20961209)

Well, the first one was a Canadian.

Re:English Scotty??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20961245)

As someone who knows an english las who married a scott, yer all the sameGet off your high sheep.

Re:English Scotty??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20961257)

In the words of John Campea at WWW.THEMOVEBLOG.COM

Simon Pegg Is Mr. Scott - Great News... Or Is It?

Simon-Pegg-ScottGood... Freaking... Goodness. Seems like the amazing Star Trek cast announcement from yesterday (Eric Bana being cast as the main bad guy "Nero") is continuing on the momentum by a HUGE announcement coming out of the Hollywood Reporter today.

First of all, Harold and Kumar's John Cho has been cast as Mr. Sulu. Not bad... not bad. I've never been thrilled with anything Cho has done, but at the same time I've never been put off by any of his performances either... so I'm neither here nor there on that one. But the BIG news is this:

Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz star Simon Pegg has been cast as Mr. Scott. You've got to be kidding me!!! That's extremely cool news. I love Simon Pegg and seeing him move to the full blown main stream is neat to see. However... and I'm going to take a lot of flack for this... but I have to ask:

IS THIS A GOOD THING? I'm not 100% sure it is.

I know that every other fanboy site out there is panting like a dog at this news and think it's the best news ever, but think about it for a second. I love Pegg, but is he really the right guy for this role? Remember, I'm not asking if Pegg is great. I'm not asking if Pegg is talented. I'm not asking if you love Pegg. I'm asking if he's the right fit... is Simon Pegg really the right guy to play the role of Scotty? I'm not really convinced he is.

Is Scoty going to be a comic relief character in the movie? Remember, in the original show, he did have some funny bits, but aside from Spock, he was also the most no-nonsense and serious character (until the later movies that is when he got really fat and jolly). The only time I've seen Pegg try to look hard and serious is in Hot Fuzz... and that didn't work... even came off as comical (even in the parts that weren't supposed to be comical).

Please understand, I'm not saying this is a bad move... not at all. I'm just wondering if this is the right fit... and what casting Pegg in the role says about the nature of the movie itself. Maybe something... maybe nothing.

Either way, good fit or not, it'll be fun to see Pegg up there.

Re:English Scotty??? (3, Funny)

Kelson (129150) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961365)

Yeah, and they cast a human as Spock! Given how underrepresented Vulcans are in the entertainment industry (I challenge you to name one, just one Oscar winner), it's only logical that they should cast a full Vulcan in that role!

Re:English Scotty??? (5, Funny)

Bill, Shooter of Bul (629286) | more than 6 years ago | (#20962065)

I do believe a one Albert Gore is Vulcan, is he not?

Lets see:
  1. Vulcan Attributes
  2. Enjoys Science - Check
  3. Emotionless robot - Double Check
  4. Uses Logic to save the earth -Triple Check

Re:English Scotty??? (1)

Oktober Sunset (838224) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961533)

Gibson's accent was more realistic than the storyline.

Re:English Scotty??? (1)

pete-classic (75983) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961569)

Technically, Gibson is a Yank [imdb.com] .

-Peter

Re:English Scotty??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20961573)

Do you really think it's safe to assume regional accents won't have drifted a bit by the 23rd century?
Perhaps Scotsmen in the future will sound like Englishmen do now, and vice versa.
Thanks to Captain Picard, we already know that 24th century Frenchmen sound like modern-day Englishmen.

Re:English Scotty??? (1)

meringuoid (568297) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961607)

As a Scotsman, I'm somewhat miffed that an Englishman is playing the role...

Read Garth Ennis's 'The Boys'. Our hero is Wee Hughie, a Scot who is blatantly based on Simon Pegg...

Re:English Scotty??? (0, Redundant)

coaxial (28297) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961749)

Yeah, no one can play a Scotsman like that Canadian James Doohan huh?

Re:English Scotty??? (0, Redundant)

STrinity (723872) | more than 6 years ago | (#20962073)

As a Scotsman, I'm somewhat miffed that an Englishman is playing the role... This is almost as bad as Mel Gibson (an Ozzie) playing William Wallace for goodness sake!


Doohan was Canuckian, and Gibson's a Merkin.

Shatner is the greatest (1)

toddbu (748790) | more than 6 years ago | (#20960989)

Say what you will about William Shatner, but I just can't ever imagine anyone else playing Kirk. His cheesy, over-the-top style will be impossible to duplicate.

Re:Shatner is the greatest (3, Funny)

JustinKSU (517405) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961053)

What do you want, Jim Carrey?

Re:Shatner is the greatest (1)

user (88235) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961081)

>Say what you will about William Shatner, but ... His cheesy, over-the-top style will be impossible to duplicate.

But.... so... *easy*... to.... *imitate*!

Re:Shatner is the greatest (3, Funny)

moderatorrater (1095745) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961093)

Say what you will about William Shatner
That sounds like a big fat challenge...kind of like shatner...

Re:Shatner is the greatest (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20961597)

Did you hear that Lieutenant Uhura got an infection? William Shatner.

Re:Shatner is the greatest (5, Interesting)

Rogerborg (306625) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961879)

Those who mock the Shatner, those who dub him 'cheesy' or 'over the top' should ask themselves this: at what point during his performance of Kirk do you ever, even for one second, doubt that you are watching the captain of the starship Enterprise?

Shatner - like Doohan - is a method actor. When the camera is on him, he actually believes that he is in command of a starship, and his belief is what drags us kicking and screaming along with him. Love him or hate him, you could never catch him playing it at one iota less than warp 9 [memory-alpha.org] . This new guy? Pwwwpt. He's just an actor. He's not the captain of the Enterprise.

Shatner. Is. Kirk.

Star Trek: The Documentary Series era. Is. Shatner.

It's should've been Carson Beckett of SG Atlantis (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20961023)

This is a travesty.

let it die (3, Insightful)

kylemonger (686302) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961029)

I hate to say it but this isn't 1977. Your typical Trek fan has been gorged to satiety on Star Trek TV and movies. And considering the last efforts, the execrable "Nemesis" and TV's "Enterprise", nausea might be a better word for it than satiety. The cast is irrelevant at this point. Trek must be allowed to die instead of continuing in this horrible parody of life.

Re:let it die (5, Funny)

jgarra23 (1109651) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961059)

I heard they cancelled Enterprise when Mr. Bakula started calling his tricorder "Ziggy"

Re:let it die (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20961237)

No funny mod? Thought we had a funny mod for that.

Re:let it die (4, Insightful)

moderatorrater (1095745) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961073)

Apparently they've started from scratch on everyone working on this so that there's the slightest chance of this being a decent movie.

What I don't understand is why we need a story on every single person that's cast for a role. Do you think that, maybe in a week, we can just post one story on the entire cast instead?

Impossible. (5, Insightful)

khasim (1285) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961147)

The problem with making a Star Trek Babies movie is that there is absolutely NO THREAT to any of the characters.

So what if baby Kirk is shot in the head causing him to fall into an erupting volcano at the moment the planet's sun goes nova?

It was all a dream sequence. Or it was a clone. Or a robot. Or the evil baby Kirk from the mirror dimension.

And the more characters you take from TOS, the less the threat is.

It's going to be like there's a HUGE TARGET painted on the one person on the bridge that isn't in TOS. And here is chief security office Ima Goingtodie.

Re:Impossible. (4, Funny)

Generic Guy (678542) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961259)

It's going to be like there's a HUGE TARGET painted on the one person on the bridge that isn't in TOS. And here is chief security office Ima Goingtodie.

Well, as long as he's wearing the requisite red shirt...

Re:Impossible. (2)

pluther (647209) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961275)

The problem with making a Star Trek Babies movie is that there is absolutely NO THREAT to any of the characters.

Well, I'd say there are many, many problems with making such a movie, but I don't know if a complete lack of threat is one of them.

I mean, did you, at any moment, think that any of the characters in the original movies were actually going to die?

And even when one did, did you expect him to stay dead?

Besides, it's grand Star Trek tradition anyway:

"Kirk, Spock, McCoy, and Ensign Gomez beam down to a planet. Guess which one isn't coming back."

Re:Impossible. (1)

GnarlyDoug (1109205) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961789)

I think you've made a good argument for why, even if well done, it will be impossible for the movie to revitalize the franchise. Even if you didn't believe the characters were going to die in the main show, you couldn't be positive. That little bit of doubt is enough for you to have enough willing suspension of disbelief to get a vicarious thrill when they are in danger. Also even if they weren't going to die, they could still suffer other hardships and changes. Fall in love, make a realization about themselves, a dark secret could be exposed, and so forth. In other words you also had the dramatic element of what life changing events and realizations could arise for a character.

In other words, there was an element of suspence at various levels that were in play because the show was new and carving it's won path. All of that will be missing from this movie. Not only will characters not die, but they can't even have something happen or be revealed that dramatically changes the nature of the character. We know, with perfect hindsight, who these people are.

The only way this movie can mean anything is if they set it up so that it turns into a new timeline with everything wide open again. If they don't do that then it's just another prequel.

Re:Impossible. (1)

Stormwatch (703920) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961921)

"Kirk, Spock, McCoy, and Ensign Gomez beam down to a planet. Guess which one isn't coming back."
You just gave me a silly idea... a cameo of John Astin.

Re:Impossible. (1)

MMC Monster (602931) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961947)

I thought the same thing before seeing _Serenity_.

Re:Impossible. (1)

Volante3192 (953645) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961287)

Since when, outside of Wrath of Khan, was there ever a *real* threat on ANY Star Trek: TOS character? (No, I don't count Generations...that was just ass.)

Hell, Spock even had his brain removed and he got over that fine.

Re:Impossible. (1)

Kelson (129150) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961411)

The problem with making a Star Trek Babies movie is that there is absolutely NO THREAT to any of the characters.

And this is different from a typical episodic series how?

You don't watch a show like Star Trek to see how things change from the beginning of the season to the end, and worry about who's going to survive. That's for arc-driven shows like Lost, Heroes, etc. You don't watch it to see whether the heroes are going to succeed, you watch it to see how they succeed.

This is the show that gave us the term, "red shirt," after all.

Re:Impossible. (4, Funny)

raehl (609729) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961603)

This is the show that gave us the term, "red shirt," after all.

I thought that was from College Football.

Note for Star Trek Fans: Football is a form of athletic contest between two groups of players, each group fielding twelve* players at one time. The game is divided into a series of downs, where each team lines up on opposite sides of a brown ball called a 'football', and one group tries to take the ball and advance it past the other group, by carying or throwing the ball, without getting tackled. If they advance it far enough, they get more attempts, and eventually score. But if they don't advance the ball at least 10 yards in 4 tries, the opposing team gets the ball.

Secondary Note for Star Trek Fans: An 'Athletic Contest' is an event in which multiple participants compete under a set of rules designed to compare the relative motor skills and/or strength/endurance possessed by the participants, although many athletic contests also include a strategy component.

* If you are not a Star Trek fan, shhhhh.

Re:Impossible. (1)

Kelson (129150) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961735)

How is any of that relevant to the trope that regular characters are all-but guaranteed to make it through the episode, but extras have a good chance of dying horribly?

Please +1, Funny parent (1)

siglercm (6059) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961815)

And I have no mod points. Damn you, /. moderation distribution!

Funniest post I've read in a good while. Extra style points for the '*' -- reminds me of:

Zapp Branigan: People of Earth.... Shhhhhh!

Re:Impossible. (1)

coaxial (28297) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961869)

Secondary Note for Star Trek Fans: An 'Athletic Contest' is an event in which multiple participants compete under a set of rules designed to compare the relative motor skills and/or strength/endurance possessed by the participants, although many athletic contests also include a strategy component.
See Kalifee [memory-alpha.org] in TOS: Amok Time [memory-alpha.org] .

Re:Impossible. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20962001)

Note for Americans: that's what you call football, but the rest of the world calls that "American football"; what we call football is what you know as "soccer".

Re:Impossible. (2, Interesting)

DragonWriter (970822) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961589)

The problem with making a Star Trek Babies movie is that there is absolutely NO THREAT to any of the characters.


Is this really an issue? I mean, seriously, was there such a threat in the series (any of them) to anyone but anonymous redshirts? None of the major cast were killed off during the series except Tasha Yar. Really, the Trek format isn't about serious threats (from the audience point of view) to major characters, even though there are occasionally such threats from the characters POV.

Yeah, so we know they aren't going to pull (without breaking continuity, which perhaps shouldn't be considered inconceivable in a Star Trek prequel) a TWoK -- if only because reversing it in a subsequent movie has been done before; but then how many times in hundreds of TV episodes and dozens of movies has a major character death (or departure to join the Q, whatever) happened in Trek anyway? The rare occasion when it does happen it gets its power from the fact that the fans "know" its not going to happen, even if the overt situation is one which seriously threatens it.

So, really, I don't think much is lost by making that slightly more inconceivable than normal.

Re:Impossible. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20961915)

Others have pointed out that threats of death aren't really all that believable in series television anyway.

I'll add that this is a common problem in fiction. Any third-person POV that has a flashback can't have a believable death threat in the flashback. Nor can any first-person POV have such a threat, because the person is telling you _now_ what happened _back then_. Clearly they survived.

That doesn't stop a skilled writer from creating suspense, nor does it prevent any number of bad things short of death from happening to a character. Happens all the time in writing and film. This movie is nothing unique in this regard.

Re:Impossible. (1)

coaxial (28297) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961939)

No. The problem with Star Trek Babies is that it's Star Trek Babies. It's unoriginal, and features every freakin' character from the original series. It's pure nostalgia remake.

And what the hell is up with prequels? Sadly, I suspect it's because Star Wars made some that made money, so that's what's hip now. ("Prequels are the new sequels baby!")

For an in-universe gripe: how the hell is it even possible to have a story with everyone together in the past on the same ship?

Baby Kirk: Dude! When I get my own ship, you guys are so going to be my crew!
All except Spock: Yeah!
Spock: Highly illogical. We will have our own careers and serve wherever Starfleet deems us most useful.
Baby McCoy: Cram a sock in your vulcan mouth Spock!
All except Spock: HA! HA! HA!
*freeze frame mid laugh. roll credits. Green light two sequels and a prequel.*

Fuck Star Trek. Give me something new. (Ironically, Galactica actually works.)

Re:Impossible. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20962003)

Do characters need to die in order for it to be a good movie? I always thought a good story revolved around good character development first and an interesting plot second. The worst types of movies are ones where the audience doesn't care at all for the characters. Even if you were to surprisingly kill off one of these "boring" characters, it wouldn't rescue the movie...

The black dude always gets it. (0)

edwardpickman (965122) | more than 6 years ago | (#20962017)

I just want one shot where the alien says one of their crew is going to die, so the whole whole crew turns to the one black guy on the bridge.

Re:let it die (2, Insightful)

B3ryllium (571199) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961217)

Go watch both seasons of Spaced, and then you'll realize why this news deserves its own article on Slashdot :)

Re:let it die (1)

roc97007 (608802) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961251)

Understand completely. You're right, it's not 1966, or 1977, or 1987 or even 1993. I'm so horribly tired of Star Trek I can't even begin to express it.

Still... I was horribly tired of that campy travesty that was the James Bond franchise until reluctantly seeing Casino Royale. The approach was fresh enough that I actually had a good time and might even see the next film.

There's nothing really wrong with the Star Trek concept, it's been recent execution (movies and tv) that's been appallingly banal.

This franchise reboot could really suck -- it could do for the movies what Enterprise did for Trek on TV -- finally driving the last nail into a coffin that should have been inhumed a decade earlier.

And yet... And yet... With a fresh cast and decent writing, it could be decent. I'm not betting anything either way; just reserving judgement until the trailers start coming out.

Re:let it die (2, Interesting)

Belacgod (1103921) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961327)

Bond started sucking when they ran out of Ian Fleming novels. Casino Royale, being originally written by Fleming, restored the guiding force to the series. Expect it to suck again now that they're out of books again.

Re:let it die (1)

roc97007 (608802) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961595)

Oh man, with all due respect, I have to disagree. Bond started sucking long before they ran out of Ian Flemming novels. Remember Moonraker? Octopussy? For Your Eyes Only? The (shudder) Living Daylights?

If Casino Royale is a true reboot, they're free to remake/update all those early Ian Flemming novels, do them in order, so the overall story arc (yes, there is one) makes sense, and, you know, make films that don't suck.

Re:let it die (1)

roc97007 (608802) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961889)

"The (shudder) Living Daylights?"

Oh carp, I mean "A View to a Kill". "The Living Daylights" was ok as far as Bond films go, more closely following the original story than most of them.

This isn't relevant to the Trek reboot, of course, because there's no original novels to use as source, and... how do I say this politely?... novels written since vary, um, wildly in quality. I would rather see well-written, original stories within the Trek universe, with cues from past works instead of slavish devotion. Of course, we'll get what we get. Will have to wait and see.

Re:let it die (1)

fiendie (934679) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961389)

I actually liked the last two seasons of Enterprise. They killed it too early as it was just getting interesting. Longer story arcs, better writing, but I digress...

I think there are still plenty of stories to tell Star Trek universe. It's Berman's grip that nearly killed the franchise. I think everyone will agree with you on the Nemesis debacle. The TNG-cast pretty much jumped the shark by then.

However, a fresh start with a director that doesn't have a classical Sci-Fi background could very will revive the series. There's definetly plenty of talent involved in the project.

We'll have to wait and see.

Who??? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20961045)

I got nothing else. Never heard of him. Is this because I have a wife and 2 daughters? Is it because I am 38? Or is it that I do/do not have a life?

Or is it somebody that I shouldn't have heard of?

Re:Who??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20961083)

Oooooooh you have a wife and 2 daughters! Is that supposed to imply that you have a life and can't be bothered to keep up with pop culture?

I see you do have time to post about your ignorance on Slashdot, though.

Re:Who??? (1)

vidarh (309115) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961101)

Most of his major roles have been in British movies and series, such as Shaun of the Dead, Hot Fuzz and Spaced that hasn't really been major successes outside Britain - that's probably why you haven't heard of him.

Re:Who??? (1)

Larry Lightbulb (781175) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961241)

Dr Who has been pretty much a sucess.

At least they'll be ready... (1)

ndogg (158021) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961183)

...for alien zombies.

Re:At least they'll be ready... (1)

tcolberg (998885) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961605)

If that's the case, Pegg would have been more useful on this one episode of Enterprise called "Fusion"-- there were Vulcan zombies!

Maybe now (1)

sqrt(2) (786011) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961255)

I've never seen an episode of Star Trek, or any of the movies. I loved Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz though. Maybe I'll check this one out when it's on Netflix.

Re:Maybe now (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20961539)

I've never seen an episode of Star Trek, or any of the movies. I loved Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz though. Maybe I'll check this one out when it's on Netflix.

How the heck did you end up on Slashdot without ever having seen a Star Trek episode or movie?

Who?? (-1, Troll)

rudy_wayne (414635) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961325)

Who is Simon Fagg?

Re:Who?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20961615)

There's no such thing as a "Native American". We all came from somewhere else.

Actually, I was born in the US. That's as native as it gets.

I might just give this a chance... (3, Insightful)

downix (84795) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961329)

When I heard of the movie project, I could do nothing but groan. "No more, Nemesis and Enterprise ruined it" was my thought. The franchise had been going down ever since the Dominion war in DS9. But, as time went on, and more details came out, I paused, and thought on it a bit. Rather than rehashing an existing concept, or trying to "expand" with jelly-sex-rubdown scenes, the producer is actually trying to reinvigorate things, but not by some highbrow concept that blew up in our faces with Enterprise and Voyager, but with a return to what makes the show stick with us after all of these years. It wasn't the TNG intellectualism, or the DS9 anti-heroism, or Voyagers attempt at survivalism, or Enterprises horrible attempt at merging all 3. It was the original series, sticking to the basic storytelling engine based on classic westerns, using Freudian psychology paired with Jung archetypes, all with the "Bandwagon to the Stars." By ripping away the layers of overdone polish and returning to the core essence of the show, then maybe, just maybe there stands a chance. Every casting choice made shows a deep understanding of this core concept. The actor choices being ideal canidates for the archetype or the psychological core element of the role being played. This gives me hope for the series I have not held for a very long time.

Nero (1)

davidc (91400) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961331)

So the villain is called Nero, eh?

I suppose violins will be well represented on the soundtrack.

Stop it already - Let Kirk rest in peace! (4, Insightful)

NJVil (154697) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961357)

Is the science fiction genre so fscking bankrupt for ideas that it needs to rehash ToS? ToS was a good enough series in its time, but who is this abomination of a movie designed to appeal to? What demographic wants to see this? Who wants to see Kirk played by anyone but Shatner? The man has all but ruined the role for anyone else. Why not take these actors and cast them in roles they can make their own instead of hamstringing them with the legacies of Nimoy and Shatner?

It's just like the abysmally stupid "Bionic Woman" nonsense; some bonehead executive decided to trot an old standard (for which some people have nostalgia) of carbonite and to "reimagine" it for a new generation... whatever the hell that means... Or the moronic Underdog movie. Or one of any other cinematic turds splattered across the big screen in the past few years. Damn.

There have been worlds of awesome science fiction written in the past few years that could easily be adopted to the big screen. For example, "The Golden Compass" is being released this winter and looks promising. However, what do we usually get? More of the same unimaginative crap that's driven people away from the major networks and theatres.

Re:Stop it already - Let Kirk rest in peace! (1)

Scrameustache (459504) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961405)

who is this abomination of a movie designed to appeal to?
Anyone familiar with the trademark.

Re:Stop it already - Let Kirk rest in peace! (1)

NJVil (154697) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961505)

From my admittedly small sample size of three, people familiar with the trademark are not pleased with this. All three are following the details, but none has said anything positive about this new movie. They are set in their minds that Shatner is Kirk, and will not pay to see someone else play Kirk differently (or even... worse... copy/lampoon... Shatner's... acting).

As far as they are concerned, this is not appealing.

As I think I said in my original post, I'm more annoyed that there is so much good fiction out there, and that there is no need to trot out the old, dead horse and beat it a few more times.

Re:Stop it already - Let Kirk rest in peace! (3, Insightful)

Scrameustache (459504) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961663)

From my admittedly small sample size of three, people familiar with the trademark are not pleased with this.
And the chances that, sooner or later, these three people will pay good money to see it are... what, 100%?

Re:Stop it already - Let Kirk rest in peace! (1)

Larry Lightbulb (781175) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961891)

Usually it's "for the kids" - all the actors in the old series are, well, old. and they're not hot. Get young, and hot, actors in the roles, and make sure they're ones who are in the news and gossip magazines, or at least have the potential and personality to be in the gossip magazines as soon as they're in this summers blockbuster.

Re:Stop it already - Let Kirk rest in peace! (1)

Have Brain Will Rent (1031664) | more than 6 years ago | (#20962031)

I agree. Especially on Shatner owning the role. Still perhaps there will be a crossover with an appearance by space lawyer Denny Crane...

Re:Stop it already - Let Kirk rest in peace! (1)

GnarlyDoug (1109205) | more than 6 years ago | (#20962071)

It's not the science fiction genre that is bankrupt. It's Hollywood and the American veiwing public. They'd rather make remakes and the public would rather watch remakes. Read this discussion and you'll find plenty of posts about how it looks like this movies going to be better than expected, how it looks like it might actually be decent, etc.

IMO these people are like (mentally/spiritually) old men. They'd rather remember an old highpoint in their life than go to the effort and possible pain that comes from experiencing new high points. This movie will allow them to remember anew the joy and fun they had when they first found the show. They can cast this into a forward looking frame, hiding from the fact that they're doing nothing more than watching the same thing over and over again.

Zachary Quinto as Spock? (1)

portforward (313061) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961359)

I guess instead of the Vulcan mind meld or that nerve pinch that Spock uses, he is just going to use his fingers to take the top half of the skulls of Aliens.

Is there a Doctor in the house? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20961491)

Do we not have a Dr. McCoy yet? Is this Trek movie to be Bonesless? Stay tuned!!

Not Who I Expected (1)

coaxial (28297) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961781)

When I heard the guy from Hot Fuzz and Shaun of the Dead was going to play Scotty, I immediately thought of Nick Frost.

Nick Frost would have been great.

Nick Frost needs a red-shirt cameo (1)

Paul Burney (560340) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961965)

I also thought Nick Frost would have been a good Scotty... Of course, Scotty didn't plump up till the movies, so I guess this makes sense.

I'd love to see Nick Frost with a red-shirt cameo. Give him maybe one line and have him get blasted first when they land on the alien planet.

Starfleet Academy? (1)

Megane (129182) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961841)

So with the pick of comedic actors (from what I've been reading; I don't recognize any names other than ZQ), is this going to be the long-predicted Starfleet Academy movie, with Academy as in 'Star Trek does Police Academy'?

Icooooooooon! (1)

Trogre (513942) | more than 6 years ago | (#20961969)

Slashdot really needs a Star Trek icon. If BeOS and the GIMP can get one, why can't the canonical nerdy TV series?

I'm tagging this one startrekneedsanicon

Re:Icooooooooon! (1)

Stavr0 (35032) | more than 6 years ago | (#20962019)

Are you trolling??!?

The icon for Sci-Fi, that's Balok [wikipedia.org] .

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