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Led Zep should be FREE by now (4, Interesting)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990317)

Under the original terms of copyright in the USA, which I believe was 17 years + 17 more optional renewal if author was alive and wanted it, much of Led Zep's catalog would be in the public domain by now.

Re:Led Zep should be FREE by now (2, Interesting)

garcia (6573) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990485)

Under the original terms of copyright in the USA, which I believe was 17 years + 17 more optional renewal if author was alive and wanted it, much of Led Zep's catalog would be in the public domain by now.

Well, when AllOfMp3.com was popular they were nearly free and that's why my wife has all their albums now.

Re:Led Zep should be FREE by now (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20990547)

Copyright in sound recordings expires either 50 years after the recording is made, if the recording is published during that period, 50 years from the publication or if during the initial 50 years the recording is played in public or communicated to the public, 50 years from said communication or playing to the public if the author of the broadcast is an EEA citizen. Otherwise duration under the laws of the country of which the author is a national applies, unless such a duration would be longer than offered in UK law, or be contrary to treaty obligations of the UK in force on 29 October 1993.
from wikipedia [wikipedia.org] Led Zeppelin is still played regularly, so it's not becoming public domain anytime soon. I don't know why USA copyright laws are relevant(both led zeppelin and their record label are based in the UK), but they don't only last 17 years as you said, they last 70 years AFTER the artist's death.

Re:Led Zep should be FREE by now (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20990595)

He was speaking about the ORIGINAL terms for copyrights, which Congress has gotten into the habit of extending whenever they are about to expire for anyone with some power, and have become in effect perpetual. And even if they are from the UK, they were still published in the US under US law, their citizenship or country of origin has nothing to do with it.

Re:Led Zep should be FREE by now (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20990601)

How regularly a work is performed or used has no bearing on the term of copyright for it.

USA copyright laws are relevant to people in the US. A UK performer's works are covered under US law for people in the US.

The original poster very explicitly stated the original US copyright laws, which were in fact 14 years plus another 14 years as an optional extension if the copyright holder wished to put forth the time and money to obtain it. You are correct that they last a very long time now, but that is just confirming his point.

You do know how bad that'd be right? (1)

/dev/trash (182850) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990549)

The boys would need to have written new hits and not glided along on a fluke

Re:You do know how bad that'd be right? (0)

conteXXt (249905) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990617)

Whoa!!!

Hang on a sec.

Led Zeppelin WASN'T a cover band?

All these years I NEVER knew that they wrote any ORIGINAL songs and now I hear they have copyright on COVERS?

The mind, it boggles.

Re:Led Zep should be FREE by now (2, Informative)

Peaker (72084) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990581)

14+14, I think.

+1 correct (1)

TomatoMan (93630) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990881)

14 + 14 is correct [wikipedia.org] .

slashdot is dying (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20990325)

the new layout is killing it.

Re:slashdot is dying (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20990353)

Blame the green.

Typical.

your mother is dying (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20990355)

the syphilis I gave her is killing her.

Re:slashdot is dying (1)

continuouslife (934428) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990821)

I won't believe it until Netcraft confirms it...

May I be the first to say... (1, Insightful)

thatskinnyguy (1129515) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990341)

FINALLY!

Re:May I be the first to say... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20990407)

> FINALLY!

...the levee breaks.

(Fixed it for you.)

Re:May I be the first to say... (1)

thatskinnyguy (1129515) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990683)

How is it redundant when I was the first to say it? Moderators: check the timestamps.

the best rapper in soviet russia (1)

User 956 (568564) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990343)

In the US, the only digital holdouts that outsell Led Zeppelin are the Beatles and Garth Brooks.

What, you mean Ill Mitch [youtube.com] doesn't rank?

AC/DC (4, Funny)

Hao Wu (652581) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990359)

No AC/DC on iTunes, last time I checked.

(I check several times each day.)

Re:AC/DC (1)

ectotherm (842918) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990541)

No, but iTunes will soon have A Whole Lotta Love for Led Zeppelin... ;)

Re:AC/DC (1)

ibentmywookie (819547) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990935)

Bogan... ;-)

Re:AC/DC (1)

MojoStan (776183) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990975)

No AC/DC on iTunes, last time I checked.

(I check several times each day.)

I know you're joking (I hope so), but for all you Butt-heads [wikipedia.org] out there waiting for AC/DC on iTunes (or any other digital store not owned by Verizon), check in April 2008.

Garth Brooks may never go digital (5, Interesting)

ubernostrum (219442) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990361)

IIRC when he went into retirement he inked a deal which granted exclusive distribution rights, going forward, to Wal-Mart; unless they get into downloadable music in a big way, or can grant digital rights to a big online player like Amazon or Apple, that may come back to bite him pretty hard.

Re:Garth Brooks may never go digital (2, Informative)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990391)

Um, Walmart.com does have an online music store. And, IIRC, [walmart.com] they recently announced they are offering DRM-free music [officialares.com] , as well.

Re:Garth Brooks may never go digital (1)

ubernostrum (219442) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990513)

Yes, but that's why I said "unless they go online in a big way". They're still a pretty small fish in the online music business.

Re:Garth Brooks may never go digital (1)

StikyPad (445176) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990791)

It's sort of ridiculous that a successful musician would be retired before the age of 40. I can understand athletes retiring because their bodies can't keep up (though many go on to other careers), and one-hit-wonders moving on, but why would a popular musician retire at all, let alone at such a young age. Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, Neil Young, Carlos Santana, B.B. King, Bob Dylan, Hank Williams Jr. and Sr. -- all of these people are either still going, or played till the end. I don't even care for his music, but honestly, it would make more sense for Britney to retire (but there's still hope for that I guess).

Re:Garth Brooks may never go digital (4, Funny)

StikyPad (445176) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990807)

LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE! PLEASE.

(Hey, somebody was gonna say it.. might as well be me.)

Re:Garth Brooks may never go digital (1)

ubernostrum (219442) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990811)

I don't know whether it's true or not that this was the reason, but publicly he stated it was because he wanted to spend time with his kids while they grew up instead of constantly being on the road/in the studio. And it's not like he was hurting for money at that point...

Re:Garth Brooks may never go digital (1)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990963)

It's an open question whether he would have done as well. As I understand it, a lot of long-running bands gradually fade away in sales and popularity. The band that might have filled stadiums in the 70's might still be together, but playing at county fairs today if they thought it was still worthwhile to do so.

Re:Garth Brooks may never go digital (2, Insightful)

lpcustom (579886) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990967)

Retirement for me will come if I ever make enough money to sustain me for the rest of my life. Garth Brooks had more than enough. Why shouldn't he retire? What I don't get is people like Bill Gates or any other businessman who is rich enough that his great great great great grandchildren won't have to work and they still get up every day and go to work. It's not that I'm lazy and they are workaholics. I work to make money. There are many many other things I'd rather do with my life. As far as being a musician, he can play and sing to people anytime he wants.

The real news... (5, Interesting)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990367)

...is that Garth Brooks outsells Led Zeppelin?!? Who knew?

Re:The real news... (1)

johkir (716957) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990587)

That didn't sound right to me. And although I don't have access to the full Billboard charts [billboard.com] , who I guess would have all that data, the next best would be wikipedia [wikipedia.org] , which shows Garth selling more then 100 million, but behind Led Zeppelin, selling more the 250 million.

Re:The real news... (3, Interesting)

maeka (518272) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990607)

That didn't sound right to me. And although I don't have access to the full Billboard charts, who I guess would have all that data, the next best would be wikipedia, which shows Garth selling more then 100 million, but behind Led Zeppelin, selling more the 250 million.

Led Zeppelin has had many more years to sell so many more than Garth Brooks, the interesting numbers would be current sales, not lifetime.

Re:The real news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20990775)

Country music - it's what the rest of the country listens too. And let's hope they stay right where they are in their cousin marrying death spiral of downward mobility cause if I hear Garth Brooks coming from a pickup stopped at a red light in Manhattan I'm going to have to open up with my glock. Lets see if the hick can swing that oduble barrel duck gun off the rack behind him before I can put a red dot on his temple. Just kidding - but I fucking hate country music.

Re:The real news... (0)

shawb (16347) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990951)

Nascar and wrestling are extremely popular and profitable sports. Budweiser makes up about half of beer sales in the U.S. Bush was re-elected.

I think you underestimate the number of rednecks out there... look at a map and see how much area is densely urban. The rest of the country is primarily rednecks.

Heh, n00bs... (5, Funny)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990377)

The true Led Zap fans rip their vinyls to Mp3 :)

Shameless plug: (2)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990443)

Yes, I am aware that Thinkgeek [thinkgeek.com] sells devices which facilitate the ripping of analog music to digital.

Re:Shameless plug: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20990799)

Random coincidence, I'm ripping III just now.

Re:Heh, n00bs... (1)

Kesch (943326) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990521)

True fans wouldn't settle for mp3 quality. True fans rip to a lossless format.

Re:Heh, n00bs... (2, Funny)

Brian Gordon (987471) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990571)

From vinyl?!

Re:Heh, n00bs... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20990703)

Yes, and since vinyl has infinite data and resolution, I have set up a RAID which allows me to keep adding drives on the fly. Two problems. I have to move because I am running out of room and I started ripping Supertramp first.

Re:Heh, n00bs... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20990827)

yes, with a laser turntable http://www.elpj.com/ [elpj.com]

Re:Heh, n00bs... (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990911)

The true Led Zap fans rip their vinyls to Mp3 :)

The true Led Zep fans are still too stoned to flip over the record. Ripping to anything (other than their brain) would simply be out of the question.

Led Zeppellin is a great band (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20990393)

for me to poop on!

Re:Led Zeppellin is a great band (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20990475)

It's only flamebait of there is a possibility of disagreement. But it is a tautology that shit deserves to be shat upon. QED

Led out? (1)

tesmar (1033054) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990399)

What took so long to get the led out?

Re:Led out? (5, Funny)

wasted (94866) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990809)

What took so long to get the led out?

My thoughts on possible reasons:
  • Technology left them Dazed and Confused .
  • They resisted when they had plenty of money during the Good Times, Bad Times currently prevail, though.
  • They wanted to ensure that The Song Remains the Same during the analog to digital conversion.
  • They wanted to do it earlier, but there was a Communication Breakdown - during the discussions, it seemed that one of the parties would just Ramble On .
  • They weren't sure what the analog to digital conversion would do to their Rock and Roll , and were considering Going to California to get it all straightened out.

Beatles -Apple (1)

Cryophallion (1129715) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990401)

Well, the fight with Apple music and apple computer is well known [wikipedia.org] .

So it obviously makes sense that they won't be on itunes anytime soon (although as of last week, they are all on there solo). I wonder if apple would fight back if they did digital distribution, as it is now apple stepping on the toes of what they are doing.

Either way, it should be only a matter of time before the other guys realize that the old way of doing music is over, and it is time to embrace the new-fangled technology. I'm surprised it's taken them this long, but on the other hand people still want cds of their music as they are some of the most famous bands of all time, so it probably hasn't hurt them as much as it hurts the little guys who are just coming out.

Re:Beatles -Apple (1)

Apple Acolyte (517892) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990457)

Apple Inc. settled with Apple Records, so there's no reason why the Beatles shouldn't be on the iTunes Music Store. In fact, that's been expected for quite some time.

Re:Beatles -Apple (1)

Cryophallion (1129715) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990507)

Well, while I think it would fiscally be a good move, how many companies that have been in lawsuits with one another for decades tend to want to work together? I'm sure some bad blood still exists, and that working together would chafe at apple music's egos.

Not saying it won't happen, but I think I understand why it hasn't happened yet.

Re:Beatles -Apple (1)

Smurf (7981) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990629)

Well, while I think it would fiscally be a good move, how many companies that have been in lawsuits with one another for decades tend to want to work together? I'm sure some bad blood still exists, and that working together would chafe at apple music's egos.

Maybe, but the solo works of ALL four Beatles are now on iTunes. George Harrison's catalog was the only one missing and it was added maybe last week.

Re:Beatles -Apple (1)

adona1 (1078711) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990885)

Neither of them especially needs the other. iTunes is obviously hugely successful as far as digital sales go, and all of the original Beatles albums still sell well enough (without discount, usually) as CDs.

Sure, they'll probably launch their catalogue online soon enough, most likely announced by Steve Jobs at a keynote, but Apple & Apple are still doing fairly nicely as it is, so there's no real need to rush.

Live shows (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20990427)

What Zeppelin REALLY needs to do is stop being dicks about their live recordings. They should release some of the soundboard recordings they've got in their archives, and stop buying up master tapes from classic-era audience tapers to keep them off the bootleg market (not positive that's true, but I've heard about it happening a lot).

Re:Live shows (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20990579)

If you could live off the proceeds of stuff you did 20, 30, 40 years ago, legally, wouldn't you at least try?

Re:Live shows (1)

AuMatar (183847) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990923)

No. But I have ethics.

Beatles? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20990439)

the only digital holdouts that outsell Led Zeppelin are the Beatles and Garth Brooks.
Apple, the recording company that had contractual control over The Beatles, held an auction years ago and sold off the copyrights to Beatles and other groups. Michael Jackson purchased most of the Beatles copyrights. He also owns copyrights to the music of many other artists and whomever wants the rights to use those will have to negotiate with him, at least till his control of the copyrights expire.

Re:Beatles? (5, Funny)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990481)

Michael Jackson purchased most of the Beatles copyrights. He also owns copyrights to the music of many other artists and whomever wants the rights to use those will have to negotiate with him, at least till his control of the copyrights expire.

Which means it'll cost you an arm, a leg, and a white-woman's nose.
       

Re:Beatles? (1)

r_jensen11 (598210) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990523)

Don't forget to bring a twelve-year-old boy or two with.

Re:Beatles? (1)

value_added (719364) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990841)

Which means it'll cost you an arm, a leg, and a white-woman's nose.

Urban myth. There is no such thing as a a poor black child who wants to grow up to become a white woman.

It's a Dianna Ross [encycloped...matica.com] nose.

who to talk to when michael jackson falls apart ? (2, Funny)

unity100 (970058) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990577)

cuz he is falling apart piece by piece. nose is dropping somewhere, ear in another and so on. will one need to talk to individual pieces of michael jackson or the falling pieces have decided on a spokesperson/representative among themselves ?

No spokesperson. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20990739)

Though if I remember my video games correctly, I think we're supposed to gather all the parts up and destroy them [wikipedia.org] . :P

Re:Beatles? (2, Informative)

Waffle Iron (339739) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990707)

Michael Jackson purchased most of the Beatles copyrights. He also owns copyrights to the music of many other artists and whomever wants the rights to use those will have to negotiate with him, at least till his control of the copyrights expire.

IIRC, Michael Jackson purchased the publishing rights to the songs, which controls royalties on covers made by other artists, usage in ads, etc. The copyrights on the original Beatles' audio recordings, which determines online availability, are still under control of record labels. (And the earliest Beatles' recording copyrights were set to expire soon in the UK unless that got the Mickey Mouse treatment since I last checked).

Re:Beatles? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20990953)

IIRC, Michael Jackson purchased the publishing rights to the songs, which controls royalties on covers made by other artists, usage in ads, etc. The copyrights on the original Beatles' audio recordings, which determines online availability, are still under control of record labels. (And the earliest Beatles' recording copyrights were set to expire soon in the UK unless that got the Mickey Mouse treatment since I last checked).
Mostly true, however he also had the rights to any royalties on the play of the songs on radio, jukeboxes, etc. Any new releases of those same Beatles songs would still have had to go through Jackson, especially due to McCartney and Lennon's formation of Northern Songs which they establish as a tax dodge to hold the copyrights and Jackson gained control of later. However in checking your statements I found that Jackson has sold his rights to the Beatles copyrights to SONY [nytimes.com] in an effort to avoid bankruptcy. McCartney may be unhappier then ever over this.

Having grown up (4, Insightful)

gillbates (106458) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990461)

listening to Led Zeppelin, I can say they are easily one of the best rock bands of all time. Unlike a lot of recent 'talent' which seems to be concerned only with imitating others, Led Zeppelin pioneered rock and roll and actually brought creativity back to a genre which many had dismissed simply as hippie music.

Good to see their catalog online; however, a few years ago I had a rather revealing experience after buying one of their earlier works on CD: I could definitely notice the limitations of the analog equipment used for recording. I hope that the tracks offered online are of better quality, or it will be a little bit of a disappointment.

Re:Having grown up (2, Informative)

Tyler Eaves (344284) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990553)

I think it has more to do with the state of Led Zeppelin on CD. The currently released CDs are a circa 1992 masters. Hardly the peak of sonic fidelity, although the situation isn't nearly as dire, as, for instance the Beatles.

Re:Having grown up (1)

AuMatar (183847) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990941)

Most people don't give a shit. Notice how popular mp3s are despite the "quality difference". Most people don't even know there is one, and can barely tell its there when someone points it out. People were and are quite happy with low bitrate encodings. The fact that they're old masters don't matter a bit.

"hippie music" (2, Insightful)

unity100 (970058) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990609)

whats wrong with hippie music, pal ?

Re:Having grown up (1)

aztektum (170569) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990637)

How did they pioneer rock and roll when other rock acts, particularly the Beatles, predate their existence by almost 10 years? Maybe the pioneers of "art rock" or a sub genre

Anyway, personally I recognize Zep for the contribution to music as a whole, but find most of their stuff to be over done. I guess that's why I'm a big punk fan though.

Beatles... (1)

gillbates (106458) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990961)

The Beatles were certainly original, and creative, but they were more of a pop-music kind of band. Led Zeppelin explored a lot of different styles, and did all of them well.

But just a few examples:

  • The guitar solos on Led Zeppelin, particularly Good Times Bad Times and Communication Breakdown. No one but Jimmy Page was playing guitar like that in 1969.
  • The Angels of Everlorn?! And this from a rock band - only Zeppelin could have pulled this off and not come across as cheesy. Granted, everyone loves Stairway to Heaven, and it was good, but it wasn't the most original track on the album.
  • The vocals on Whole Lotta Love are entirely unlike anything before it.
  • The Ocean is likewise original, and it works. Where was Fusion before this? I'm not sure I can name any (fusion) bands prior to 1980 that were anywhere close to this level of excellence.
  • Hot Dog - so country isn't original, but not something you'd expect from them. It's completely out of the blue, not even a variation on anything else they'd done previously.

Yeah, so Willie Dixon sued them for copying him. They still produced a lot of completely original and very inspiring tracks.

Re:Having grown up (3, Insightful)

conteXXt (249905) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990705)


"pioneered rock and roll and actually brought creativity back to a genre which many had dismissed simply as hippie music"

Creativity? How creative is it to BLATENTLY rip off blues musicians from 20,30,40 years before they were BORN?

If sampling were available in Led Zeps time, I don't think they would have even bothered "trying" to disguise the theft.

Methinks you were looking for a different word. Plagiarism comes to mind.

No credits (initially) to the songwriters they stole from?

World's biggest cover band.

Sorry, this one makes my sick and is EXACTLY why I hate the music industry.

Re:Having grown up (4, Funny)

gooman (709147) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990765)

Time Travel.
That's how you rip-off a Blues musician 20, 30 even 40 years before they are born.

Re:Having grown up (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20990859)

ok fair enough.

Drop the "ian" from musician and you should be able to get the meaning.

Re:Having grown up (1)

flar2 (938689) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990921)

Pretty much all musicians copy those who influenced them. Led Zeppelin took the blues music that inspired them in new directions and to new heights. They created a harder more intense sound and influenced virtually every rock band since. You could similarly argue that later rock bands were blatant rip offs of Zeppelin.

Re:Having grown up (1)

TheCrayfish (73892) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990977)

That may be an accurate description of how Led Zeppelin got their start, but how can you deny the creativity and craftsmanship behind songs like "Kashmir" and "All of My Love" and "The Ocean" and "The Rain Song"? And you must admit that the opening bars of "Good Times, Bad Times" represent one of the best -- if not THE best -- debut tracks on a debut album ever recorded.

Re:Having grown up (1)

bogjobber (880402) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990835)

Sweet zombie Jesus, I hope you're being sarcastic. If not your ignorance regarding rock music is staggering. Although I agree to the extent of their awesomeness, to claim Led Zeppelin isn't derivative is absolutely ludicrous. In fact, they have been taken to court at least once and criticized many more times for outright plagiarism. Some of their most famous songs are directly credited to other artists (Dazed and Confused, Lemon Song, Moby Dick, Gallows Pole, Babe I'm Gonna Leave You, When the Levee Breaks). Take off the nostalgia goggles, gramps.

Some [turnmeondeadman.net] more [artofthemix.org] reading. [artofthemix.org]

Re:Having grown up (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20990955)

This is missing the point. On the radio, Led Zeppelin is one of the most instantly recognizable of all bands. They are probably the greatest arena rock band ever. They didn't invent the genre as there were a few acts such as Cream before them, but they were the ones (or specifically Jimmy Page, the music director) who really thought about the possibilities of arena rock and architected their sound from the ground up to meet the challenge. It wasn't just four guys with long hair and dazzling chops jamming with stacks of Marshall amps.

There's a radio station in Boston that plays a run of seven Led Zeppelin songs every night during drive time. It's a great gimmick, somehow it doesn't seem stale like the standard oldies radio fare of Motown, Stones, Elton John, etc.

ringtones?!? (5, Insightful)

russellh (547685) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990463)

Ok, from tfa:

Under a series of new agreements expected to be announced today, the band will make its songs available first as ringtones and similar mobile features starting this week in an exclusive deal with Verizon Wireless.
WTF? This to me says one of two things: either they don't care about the artistic integrity of their music at all, or they don't understand or don't have any respect for digital distribution, digital music players. I'm going with the former, as the latter has big $$$ attached now, apparently. mp3 players already devalue music generally, but nothing kills integrity like ringtones. Especially stairway to heaven ringtones. OMFG. kill me now.

Re:ringtones?!? (1)

jasenj1 (575309) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990561)

Agreed. Ring tones!?!? Sounds like someone finally put enough zeros on the check and Led Zep couldn't resist.

It'd be nice if one of these hold out bands would agree to a CD lossless, 96kHz 24bit or higher resolution distribution. MP3 and other heavily compressed formats may have been great when bandwidth was something that needed to be conserved, but now it is just holding back the quality of digital music.

- Jasen.

Re:ringtones?!? (1)

Null537 (772236) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990647)

Oh god, please please, absolutely NO Stairway. (as ringtones)

Re:ringtones?!? (1)

Kesch (943326) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990727)

On the upside. Maybe we'll see some Zeppelin in Guitar Hero/Rock Band.

Re:ringtones?!? (1)

HanzoSpam (713251) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990833)

WTF? This to me says one of two things: either they don't care about the artistic integrity of their music at all, or they don't understand or don't have any respect for digital distribution, digital music players. I'm going with the former, as the latter has big $$$ attached now, apparently.

So, WTF is wrong with giving people what they want, in the format they want it, at a price they're willing to pay? That a few pretentious clowns lose their status as arbiters of "art"? And what makes them authorities?

Re:ringtones?!? (1)

ScrewMaster (602015) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990873)

And what makes them authorities?

They have more money than we do. That's pretty much about it, I'd say.

Re:ringtones?!? (1)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990937)

I've never really understood this need to take a tiny clip of a track and use it as a "ring" tone. I've always figured it to be a novelty at best. There is an element of personalization, but I question that because they end up sounding very bad through a ringer.

Garth Brooks?!? (1)

Mac_8100_g3 (662248) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990479)

Christ that's pathetic [google.com] .

And real Led Zeppelin fans would never admit to listening to anything but vinyl [google.com] .

Sorry no change from me (0)

WillRobinson (159226) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990491)

I absolutely will not purchase any music in any form. Until the bands start distributing via a company that is DRM less, and passes MAJORITY of the moneys back to the bands.

Re:Sorry no change from me (1)

Technician (215283) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990615)

absolutely will not purchase any music in any form. Until the bands start distributing via a company that is DRM less, and passes MAJORITY of the moneys back to the bands.

Don't forget that part about using a label who is a member of a trade association suing people in mass. I know you didn't mention it as unimportant as they don't pay their artists much.

Re:Sorry no change from me (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20990897)

I absolutely will not purchase any music in any form. Until the bands start distributing via a company that is DRM less, and passes MAJORITY of the moneys back to the bands.

That is hypocritical of you. You've got the right to not purchase any music, but bot purchasing music until the bands start distributing via a company that is DRM less, and passes MAJORITY of the moneys back to the bands? I can see it if the labels use contracts and what not to nickel and dime the money that's suppose to go back to the band, but who are you to tell the band how to share their profit?

CDs (4, Interesting)

Winckle (870180) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990515)

Don't CDs store data digitally?

Also why do marketeers always cal them "digital downloads", when can I get them on analogue downloads? :-)

Re:CDs (1)

zerojoker (812874) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990657)

> when can I get them on analogue downloads?

They already are available. You could always _listen_ to the music :-)

Re:CDs (1)

Anthony (4077) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990723)

Hey. I used to do analog downloads from AM radio to my trusty cassette. Lots of "backup tapes" of Yes, David Bowie, Led Zep, Bob Marley from the Album show in the 70s. No idea where those tapes are, all been binned I suspect. Quality, who needs quality when you know no other sound. This new-fangled stereo radio is a revelation though.

Vinyl (1)

bigbadunix (662724) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990559)

Wait a second...

Does this mean I have to put all my Zeppelin albums back in their sleeves and download brand new digital copies of the much superior-sounding vinyl discs?

Say it isn't so.

Re:Vinyl (1)

Mac_8100_g3 (662248) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990677)

I must really be screwed up. I rip my CDs onto open reel analog tape.

When she gets there, she knows (4, Funny)

ross.w (87751) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990565)

if the stores are all closed, with a click she can get what she came for.

Amazon patents notwithstanding

Re:When she gets there, she knows (4, Funny)

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Woot (1)

kjzk (1097265) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990585)

Now they only need to go on tour and my life would be complete.

little wonder they held out (2, Funny)

MrKaos (858439) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990643)

The group is one of the last superstar acts to hold out against the digital tide.
They've been dazed and confused them for so long it' not true.

Thank god.... (0, Troll)

hedkandee (1148031) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990665)

I have everything by the Beatles and Zeppelin on vinyl, and I don't give a shit about Garth Brooks. So, all the big things are taken care of regardless.

Re:Thank god.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20990773)

And I have everything by Garth Brooks, and I don't give a shit about Zeppelin or the Beatles. So we've both got all our bases covered.

Re:Thank god.... (1)

ScrewMaster (602015) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990893)

And I have everything by Garth Brooks, and I don't give a shit about Zeppelin or the Beatles. So we've both got all our bases covered.

You two should get together. You have a lot in common.

Arghh (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#20990749)

Led Zepplin bullshit rock music and slashdot...bullshit nerd site

fuck you all

ha, anonymous, ha.

The plus side of their Luddism (2, Informative)

Dachannien (617929) | more than 6 years ago | (#20990849)

I was annoyed that Led Zeppelin wasn't on iTunes a while back, but it did lead me to the London Philharmonic Orchestra's Led Zeppelin cover album. Highly recommended (and they did a Pink Floyd cover album, too).

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