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Complete Set List for Guitar Hero III

Zonk posted more than 6 years ago | from the wanna-rock-and-roll-all-night-and-have-a-wonderful-day dept.

Music 84

Wowzer writes "Early leaks have revealed the complete 74 numbers set list in Guitar Hero 3: Legends of Rock . Developer Neversoft had hoped to keep the last remaining 14 songs a secret until the American launch of the game on October 28th for PS2, PS3, Xbox 360 and Wii. From the article: 'Tier 1 - Slow Ride (Foghat), Talk Dirty to Me (Poison), Hit Me with Your Best Shot (Pat Benetar), Story of My Life (Social Distortion), Rock and Roll All Nite (Kiss), Sabotage (Beastie Boys). Tier 2 - Mississippi Queen (Mountain), School's Out (Alice Cooper), Sunshine of Your Love (Cream), Barracuda (Heart), Tom Morello's Original Boss Battle Recording, Bulls on Parade (Rage Against The Machine), Reptillia (The Strokes).'"

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84 comments

Happy but more exicted for Rock Band (1, Insightful)

nrich239 (790194) | more than 6 years ago | (#21130371)

Unfortunately, now that Harmonix has given up the GH franchise, I doubt it will get better from here. Harmonix invented this genre (Amped, Guitar Hero, GH2) and they have moved on to do Rock Band, which will sell for fairly decent if nothing more than fan loyalty to Harmonix.

gay (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21130541)

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Re:Happy but more exicted for Rock Band (2, Insightful)

Fozzyuw (950608) | more than 6 years ago | (#21130847)

Unfortunately, now that Harmonix has given up the GH franchise, I doubt it will get better from here.

I have some worries about GH:III due to this fact, but I'm still more than willing to give it a shot. The track list, at over 70 songs, is just simply killer and according to Wikipedia, it appears GH:III will have several new gameplay additions [wikipedia.org] , particularly for competitive play, which really does sound like some nice touches.

Likewise, I'm actually MORE excited for Rock Band. I've only recently picked up Karaoke Revolution and really enjoy it. I can imagine adding Drums and 2-3 friends would really kick butt. Except... I only own a Wii and PS2. Rumors are they'll release a Wii version, but no concrete details and if and when. There's a PS2 version which I might just break-down and buy until a Wii version arrives (at whatever cost I'll loose by trading in the PS2 version). Though, I want to avoid the PS2 due to no downloads and I don't feel like dropping $400 for a 360/PS3 to buy a $200 game. So, I'm hoping GH:III will tide me over until more details on a Wii version arrive.

Cheers,
Fozzy

Re:Happy but more exicted for Rock Band (1)

jkmullins (643492) | more than 6 years ago | (#21131389)

I actually liked the demo of GH3 better than GH2. They've made the aforementioned gameplay additions to multiplayer, but they have also cleaned up some things in the single player game that I always hated (e.g., screen no longer shakes when going into star power mode), and they've made some nice informational additions to the interface. Also, the difficulty seems generally harder due to the inherently faster pace of the game, and the set list is phenomenal. All in all, a worthy sequel. I'm intensely curious about Rock Band, however, I can't see myself buying it. I just don't get together to game with friends often enough to make the whole set worth it.

Re:Happy but more exicted for Rock Band (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21130951)

...Harmonix invented this genre (Amped, Guitar Hero, GH2)...

I know quite a few Bemani fans who would rather loudly disagree with that assertion.

Heck, Guitar Freaks came along in 1998. It's got a good 7 years on GH.

Re:Happy but more exicted for Rock Band (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21130961)

Actually, if my history facts are straight, Konami had Beatmania out in 1997 before Harmonix created their first game.

Re:Happy but more exicted for Rock Band (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21131401)

Harmonix never made an exclusive snowboarding game for the Xbox.

Re:Happy but more exicted for Rock Band (4, Informative)

Dorceon (928997) | more than 6 years ago | (#21132035)

I'm not sure why it's only Anonymous Cowards who are pointing this out, but it's an important point that should be seen by everyone. Harmonix didn't invent the rhythm genre. Harmonix didn't even invent the hold-one-or-more-neck-buttons-while-strumming-the-bidirectional-lever guitar rhythm genre. Konami released the first version of Guitar Freaks [wikipedia.org] in 1998.

Re:Happy but more exicted for Rock Band (1)

NevermindPhreak (568683) | more than 6 years ago | (#21140821)

my friend found a copy of CH3 on sale at Meijer, i believe. some employees put it out on accident and he bought it. i can definately say that this game still lives up to the Guitar Hero series. i plan to get both, though. :D

GH3 PC (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21130429)

Man I can't wait for the PC version; admired all my friends with PS2's & Xbox's for far too long.

Re:GH3 PC (0)

StarvingSE (875139) | more than 6 years ago | (#21132635)

Your wait has been over for a while my friend: Frets on Fire [sourceforge.net]

Re:GH3 PC (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21134307)

I think I'll wait and pay $90 for the real game with an actual guitar controller and non-fucked up timing.

smoked (2, Funny)

echo465 (574642) | more than 6 years ago | (#21130503)

And I'm sure the streaming video will work beautifully now that they've been slashdotted.

Re:smoked (1)

trezima (1168921) | more than 6 years ago | (#21130879)

It's Youtube. They can handle /. traffic.

is this topic really slashdot worthy? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21130545)

is this topic really slashdot worthy?

i say no.
news for nerds, stuff that matters.
right....

Re:is this topic really slashdot worthy? (4, Funny)

Reason58 (775044) | more than 6 years ago | (#21130655)

Good call. Nerds definitely aren't interested in video games. All we do is play chess, do calculus in our heads, and argue the merits of Kirk as the original captain.

Re:is this topic really slashdot worthy? (4, Funny)

kilo_foxtrot84 (1016017) | more than 6 years ago | (#21131183)

Not true. It is plainly clear that Picard is superior.

Re:is this topic really slashdot worthy? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21131985)

But what about Kirk's rough and tumble style of command?!

Re:is this topic really slashdot worthy? (1)

Kratisto (1080113) | more than 6 years ago | (#21136645)

Bah, what good is that measured against a true intellectual genius of a less and less violent age?

Re:is this topic really slashdot worthy? (1)

UncleTogie (1004853) | more than 6 years ago | (#21131941)

...argue the merits of Kirk as the original captain.

As Archer came before Kirk in the ST timeline, he'd be the original captain, unless ya count Cochrane...

What's to argue? ;)

Re:is this topic really slashdot worthy? (3, Funny)

Jarjarthejedi (996957) | more than 6 years ago | (#21132799)

Christopher Pike was the original Captain, Kirk was second

*Notes what he just wrote, and what it implies about his social life...*

Re:is this topic really slashdot worthy? (1)

jx100 (453615) | more than 6 years ago | (#21133147)

Actually, the first was Robert April. The second was Chris Pike, then Kirk was second.

Re:is this topic really slashdot worthy? (1)

brouski (827510) | more than 6 years ago | (#21136893)

<nerd>That's only if you count the animated series as canon.</nerd>

What's next? (1, Interesting)

deftcoder (1090261) | more than 6 years ago | (#21130677)

Guitar Hero: Clear Channel Top 40 edition?

Guitar Hero 2 has the best set list of all the games so far... by a long shot.

Re:What's next? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21131045)

You're kidding, right?

Re:What's next? (1)

deftcoder (1090261) | more than 6 years ago | (#21133067)

No?

The only song that would top Hangar 18 + Free Bird as a finale would be Dueling Banjos.

Re:What's next? (4, Interesting)

twistedsymphony (956982) | more than 6 years ago | (#21131191)

What I really like about the GHIII set list is the fact that only 19 out of the 70+ song are "as made famous by" with the rest being recordings from the original artist. IMO this is the biggest benefit to this edition over the previous installments which were closer to the other way around. Either Activision has more $$ to pay for the originals, or more artists (read: copyright owners)are realizing that supporting Guitar Hero does wonders for the good will of their fans.

Re:What's next? (1)

jZnat (793348) | more than 6 years ago | (#21140253)

I heard that Harmonix preferred to do covers of the songs because it made developing the game more fun. Also, since the game puts the player as the lead guitarist of a new band doing covers of other bands' music, it seems to make more sense that your band doesn't sound exactly like the original. I guess Rock Band might follow along that line considering you're getting a band together in the first place rather than just one instrument.

Re:What's next? (1)

bigstrat2003 (1058574) | more than 6 years ago | (#21133625)

Disagree. Guitar Hero 2 has the worst set of all the games by a long shot, in my book. Too much damn metal, I can't stand playing about half the songs in that game. GH3 may or may not be a lot better, but at least GH1 and GH 80s had more than 50% tolerable songs.

Re:What's next? (1)

deftcoder (1090261) | more than 6 years ago | (#21135819)

Metal requires skill to play though, isn't that the point?

Why plunk along with Smoke on the Water when you can sweep pick through Hangar 18?

Re:What's next? (1)

bigstrat2003 (1058574) | more than 6 years ago | (#21136167)

I play Guitar Hero to play songs I actually enjoy listening to. I am not about to play a song I hate, no matter how challenging or fun it is to play. Not to mention that in Guitar Hero 2, I feel that the harder songs aren't even fun to play due to being so hard (I have no aversion to hard, I cleared GH1 on expert after all, but GH2 is too damn hard for my taste).

Re:What's next? (1)

deftcoder (1090261) | more than 6 years ago | (#21136467)

Based upon your username, I'll assume you're a fellow guitarist.

I found Bark at the Moon and Cowboys from Hell to be MUCH harder than Hangar 18 and Free Bird. This is probably due to the lack of proper hammer-ons/pull-offs in GH1.

Or maybe it's because I pretty much play nothing but death metal solos (on real guitar) which use a lot of sweep picking/sweep tapping. My hand coordination/timing is quite good...

This is an example of the stuff I play: http://youtube.com/watch?v=pehhwVQID3U [youtube.com]

Re:What's next? (1)

bigstrat2003 (1058574) | more than 6 years ago | (#21136543)

I am, indeed, a guitarist, although quite amateur and unpracticed (I unfortunately haven't played my Strat in 3 or 4 years, although I should get back to it). The name is actually an old one that I reused (I'll let you guess when it's from ;)).

That aside, I learned to cope with the lack of hammerons/pull-offs in GH1 by strumming all the time. In GH2, the solos are too blistering for me to be able to finger. Example: the beginning of the solo in Free Bird, where you get a pattern of B-Y-R-Y, repeating for quite a while. I can't play that. My fingers just can't move quickly and accurately enough (Can you tell I was never a great guitarist? I could do it if it was two alternating notes, but my motor skills aren't up to snuff for this one), so I fail out very quickly after that part. And the solos in GH2 tend to be longer, for that matter. Maybe I just didn't have a lot of patience for it (I got good at GH1 when I was jobless, so I literally spent all day playing GH, which was not the case when GH2 came out), but GH2 feels incredibly hard to me compared to GH1.

Re:What's next? (1)

deftcoder (1090261) | more than 6 years ago | (#21136627)

I found that Jessica was the best song to practice on to get good at sweeping.

There is one advantage to being good at the epic solos... you can draw crowds in stores like Best Buy. I 98%'ed Hangar 18 on expert (missed a few notes towards the end) and by the time I finished a crowd of about 10 people were standing behind me watching. When I finished it and turned around, they applauded.

It was cool. :)

I can usually 99% Jessica in stores, but I haven't played in months so I probably can't anymore. :/

Anyways, good luck, and play guitar more!

Re:What's next? (1)

Kratisto (1080113) | more than 6 years ago | (#21136691)

Meh. I've found that being able to play guitar and being able to play guitar hero aren't necessarily related. You may pick up the rules faster, but there's a big difference between pressing a button and actually holding a note. Mostly; I'm not required to reach seven inches and five buttons since notes repeat themselves nicely and logically in any scale you'd want to solo.

Re:What's next? (1)

deftcoder (1090261) | more than 6 years ago | (#21138739)

I don't know why people put so much emphasis on learning scales. Modes are far more important.

You should learn musical theory in this order: modes -> scales -> chords

Playing metal guitar helps with timing/left hand dexterity if anything. Sweep picking sort of requires perfect timing to pull off, so translating that skill to Guitar Hero does help quite a bit.

Re:What's next? (1)

ResidntGeek (772730) | more than 6 years ago | (#21135685)

What the fuck? What Clear Channel Top 40 station have you ever heard playing Sunshine of Your Love, or Raining Blood? Paranoid? One? Number of the Beast? La Grange? The Seeker? Sabotage? Half the fucking songs on there?

Shut the fuck up and enjoy the music. They're good songs.

Free Mod Points (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21130731)

For the first man/woman who posts the list... Blasted Websense!!!

Re:Free Mod Points (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21131297)

It's been on the wiki [wikipedia.org] page for quite a week or so...

1. Starting Out Small

        * "Slow Ride" - Foghat [33]
        * "Talk Dirty to Me" - Poison[34]
        * "Hit Me with Your Best Shot" - Pat Benatar[35]
        * "Story of My Life" - Social Distortion[36]
        * "Rock and Roll All Nite" - Kiss [33] (Encore)
        * "Sabotage" - Beastie Boys[33] (Co-op Encore)

2. Your First Real Gig

        * "Mississippi Queen" - Mountain[37]
        * "School's Out" - Alice Cooper[33]
        * "Sunshine of Your Love" - Cream[36]
        * "Barracuda" - Heart[33]
        * Guitar Battle vs. Tom Morello
        * "Bulls on Parade" - Rage Against the Machine[38] (Encore)
        * "Reptilia" - The Strokes[37] (Co-op Encore)

3. Making The Video

        * "When You Were Young" - The Killers[39]
        * "Miss Murder" - AFI[40]
        * "The Seeker" - The Who[36]
        * "Lay Down" - Priestess[33]
        * "Paint It, Black" - The Rolling Stones [33] (Encore)
        * "Suck My Kiss" - Red Hot Chili Peppers[41] (Co-op Encore)

4. European Invasion

        * "Paranoid" - Black Sabbath[37]
        * "Anarchy in the U.K." - Sex Pistols (Re-recorded) [42]
        * "Kool Thing" - Sonic Youth[43]
        * "My Name Is Jonas" - Weezer[33]
        * "Even Flow" - Pearl Jam[33] (Encore)
        * "Cities on Flame with Rock and Roll" - Blue Öyster Cult[40] (Co-op Encore)

5. Bighouse Blues

        * "Holiday in Cambodia" - Dead Kennedys[36]
        * "Rock You Like a Hurricane" - Scorpions
        * "Same Old Song and Dance" - Aerosmith[36]
        * "La Grange" - ZZ Top[41]
        * Guitar Battle vs. Slash
        * "Welcome to the Jungle" - Guns N' Roses[33][44] (Encore)
        * "Helicopter" - Bloc Party[36] (Co-op Encore)

6. The Hottest Band On Earth

        * "Black Magic Woman" - Santana[36][45]
        * "Cherub Rock" - The Smashing Pumpkins[33]
        * "Black Sunshine" - White Zombie[36]
        * "The Metal" - Tenacious D[33]
        * "Pride and Joy" - Stevie Ray Vaughan[36] (Encore)
        * "Monsters" - Matchbook Romance[36] (Co-op Encore)

7. Live In Japan

        * "Before I Forget" - Slipknot[36]
        * "Stricken" - Disturbed[36]
        * "3's & 7's" - Queens of the Stone Age[46]
        * "Knights of Cydonia" - Muse[33]
        * "Cult of Personality" - Living Colour (Re-recorded) [33] (Encore)

8. Battle For Your Soul

        * "Raining Blood" - Slayer[37]
        * "Cliffs of Dover" - Eric Johnson[36]
        * "The Number of the Beast" - Iron Maiden [41]
        * "One" - Metallica[47]
        * Guitar Battle vs. Lou
        * "The Devil Went Down to Georgia" - Steve Ouimette rendition, inspired by Charlie Daniels Band (Encore)[36]

Bonus Tracks

        * "Avalancha" - Héroes del Silencio[48]
        * "Can't Be Saved" - Senses Fail[33]
        * "Closer" - Lacuna Coil[48]
        * "Don't Hold Back" - The Sleeping[33]
        * "Down n' Dirty" - LA Slum Lords[33]
        * "F.C.P.R.E.M.I.X." - The Fall of Troy[33]
        * "Generation Rock" - Revolverheld[48]
        * "Go That Far" - Bret Michaels Band[34]
        * "Hier Kommt Alex" - Die Toten Hosen[48]
        * "I'm in the Band" - The Hellacopters[48]
        * "Impulse" - An Endless Sporadic[33]
        * "In Love" - Scouts of St. Sebastian[33]
        * "In the Belly of a Shark" - Gallows[48]
        * "Mauvais Garçon" - Naast[48]
        * "Metal Heavy Lady" - Lions[33]
        * "Minus Celsius" - Backyard Babies[48]
        * "My Curse" - Killswitch Engage[33]
        * "Nothing for Me Here" - Dope[33]
        * "Prayer of the Refugee" - Rise Against [49]
        * "Radio Song" - Superbus[48]
        * "Ruby" - Kaiser Chiefs[48]
        * "She Bangs the Drums" - The Stone Roses[50][51]
        * "Take This Life" - In Flames[48]
        * "The Way It Ends" - Prototype[33]
        * "Through the Fire and Flames" - DragonForce

Known already, for a while. (1)

EveryNickIsTaken (1054794) | more than 6 years ago | (#21130869)

Honestly, I'm not sure which 14 songs people weren't aware of. The full set list has been available for some time on joystiq, kotaku, and gamefaqs.com, along with hundreds of other sites.

sabotage? (2, Interesting)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 6 years ago | (#21131035)

I find it hilarious that they put Sabotage on the list. Give the guitar part a good listen sometime--all it is is nonstop heavily distorted muted eighth notes (with a handful of unmuted hits in there). Nearly the entire "melody" is the bass.

Re:sabotage? (1)

SageinaRage (966293) | more than 6 years ago | (#21131237)

Nearly the entire melody is in the bass GUITAR. Guitar Hero includes bass parts.

Re:sabotage? (1)

mpathetiq (726625) | more than 6 years ago | (#21131265)

I'd guess that's why it's a Co-op Encore. The bass can actually do something interesting. (Bass player here...)

Re:sabotage? (2, Informative)

NereusRen (811533) | more than 6 years ago | (#21133175)

You know you can play the Bass part in Guitar Hero, right? Some of the songs in GH2 had much more interesting bass parts as well... John the Fisherman, War Pigs, etc.

I agree that it's funny to point out the inclusion of such songs in "guitar" hero games, but it's not quite as silly as you might think if you hadn't played it.

Finally a song nobody can beat (4, Interesting)

keithpreston (865880) | more than 6 years ago | (#21131253)

Through the Fire and Flames (by DragonForce)
You might think you are good at guitar hero, but this will be the ultimate challenge. This is got to be the most hacked in song into the previous versions. I love just watching people play it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZutgOyA9EY [youtube.com]

Re:Finally a song nobody can beat (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21132069)

Through the Fire and the Flames is overrated. Dragonforce's first two albums were great, Inhuman Rampage exists simply as an excuse for them to jack off their fretboards. And there are songs that are harder to play, too. Technical death metal FTW.

Re:Finally a song nobody can beat (1)

Prod_Deity (686460) | more than 6 years ago | (#21134397)

Have you ever seen them live? I haven't because they're not my cup of tea, but my cousin has.
He said that they are "alright" live, which leads me to believe that they are way beyond over produced.
If you want techical guitar playing, look elsewhere.
On a side note, I'm totally stoked that Slayer is gonna be on it!

No Dream Theater... (2, Informative)

7Prime (871679) | more than 6 years ago | (#21131339)

Third outing on a "guitar rock gods" package, and still no John Petrucci, wtf? Not buying it until they give me some Metropolis action.

Re:No Dream Theater... (1)

KlomDark (6370) | more than 6 years ago | (#21132415)

No shit, I'm waiting for some John Myung bass tracks too. That guy is the most underappreciated member of DT.

Now if we could just the singer to quit. I used to really like him, but any more he seems just kind of whiny and off-key by a fraction.

Re:No Dream Theater... (1)

Goose42 (88624) | more than 6 years ago | (#21132919)

Screw "Metropolis", bring on "A Change Of Seasons". Completing a 23-minute song with 100% accuracy should be worth just a few bragging rights. :-P

Re:No Dream Theater... (1)

Nephroth (586753) | more than 6 years ago | (#21133287)

I'd love to see any Dream Theater in a Guitar Hero game, but the longer and more intricate the track the better. Personally I think that "Under a Glass Moon" would be an excellent choice, at least for the Rock Band game--torment the keyboard player a bit.

If you want to go further down the "incredibly long song" category, they could always put one of the Jethro Tull concept albums on there. I would definitely like so see someone play Thick as a Brick without missing a note.

Re:No Dream Theater... (1)

7Prime (871679) | more than 6 years ago | (#21135421)

Damn straight! Under a Glass Moon would be great.

I think ACOS would be highly improbable though, just too long. Quite a few people would love to tackle Metropolis or UaGM, maybe even some sick shit like Dance of Eternity. The fact is, DT has so many tunes that would be PERFECT for Guitar Hero. I mean, John Petrucci is like, THE current raigning guitar God who isn't simply a solo artist.

Somehow I think a couple of punk rockers got on board and basically said, "down with prog". Oh well, you know they'll be some of the first custom builds and downloadables.

It's about time! (3, Insightful)

bckrispi (725257) | more than 6 years ago | (#21131349)

We got some Fucking SLAYER!!!!!

Re:It's about time! (1)

grub (11606) | more than 6 years ago | (#21131879)


We got some Fucking SLAYER!!!!!

Agreed, but you know deep down that Jack Thompson will be raising a stink about kids playing "satanic" music or some other superstitious nonsense.

Re:It's about time! (1)

dextromulous (627459) | more than 6 years ago | (#21133691)

We got some Fucking SLAYER!!!!!
Agreed. I wasn't going to buy this game until I saw that! If only Motorhead's Ace of Spades was on this one as well.

Re:It's about time! (1)

grub (11606) | more than 6 years ago | (#21134427)

Ace of Spades is on a previous Guitar Hero. You can find videos on YouTube of people playing it.

Re:It's about time! (1)

darkhitman (939662) | more than 6 years ago | (#21134359)

Now we have a clear counter to hippies [myconfinedspace.com] built right in to GH3!

I dedicate this next song, to my Girlfriend (0)

EmperorKagato (689705) | more than 6 years ago | (#21131441)

Oh wow my girlfriend's favorite song, "Slow Ride" as made famous by FogHat, is the first song listed and in Tier 1. I can do Tier 1 songs in sleep!

Looks like I'll be rocking out to GHIII in my underwear while wooing my girl at the same time. ^_^

Re:I dedicate this next song, to my Girlfriend (1)

KlomDark (6370) | more than 6 years ago | (#21132475)

There's already been a game for Slow Ride for decades - it's called "Can the D.J. get done taking a shit before the song is over?" If there's dead air at the end of the song, you know the DJ lost the game.

Slow Ride sucks. I hate it. The only reason it's still on the air is because DJs have to defecate too. Every time you hear it, you know that the DJ is taking his kids to the pool while you listen. Definitely turns me off too the song.

"Childbirth is no more a miracle then eating food and a turd coming out of your ass." - Bill Hicks

Re:I dedicate this next song, to my Girlfriend (1)

CaseCrash (1120869) | more than 6 years ago | (#21132907)

This is no longer true as radio is no longer live. I worked at a Clear Channel station for close to minimum wage where the djs came in, recorded their talk in like 20 minutes, and then left. The song list was selected by a computer halfway across the country or something, and I got to watch TV and make sure the system didn't freeze or something. I'm pretty sure I was only there because of FCC regulations saying that somebody had to be there.

Re:I dedicate this next song, to my Girlfriend (1)

EmperorKagato (689705) | more than 6 years ago | (#21167079)

It's great that you hate the song yet, "this is my girlfriend's favorite song".

There's more to this song than an opportunity for the Disc Jockey to drop kids off at the pool.

Outsourced (1)

slummy (887268) | more than 6 years ago | (#21131549)

I wonder if everyone realizes Harmonix outsourced the development of Guitar Hero III to free up time for them to create Rock Band [rockband.com] .

Re:Outsourced (1)

typobox43 (677545) | more than 6 years ago | (#21133155)

"Outsourcing" is a bad word for it. They totally sold off the franchise. They have no rights to Guitar Hero anymore.

Re:Outsourced (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21133377)

To expand/correct:
Activision bought Red Octane, and the rights to the franchise along with it. Neversoft filled in Harmonix's shoes for Guitar Hero 3. That's why Guitar Hero 3 has a completely different engine and a different "feel" to the way the songs are charted.

Harmonix was purchased by MTV and set to work making Rock Band.

Re:Outsourced (1)

Evilducks (1159239) | more than 6 years ago | (#21135085)

The Guitar Hero name and franchise is owned by Red Octane, a publishing company now owned by Activision. Harmonix was bought by EA. The two companies are now competitors with Harmonix developing Rock Band and Neversoft (of Tony Hawk fame) now developing Guitar Hero. Harmonix pitched the Rock Band idea to RO but in the end RO decided that the drum kit idea wasn't as easy for players to pick up and wouldn't do as well as their guitar hero franchise and so passed on the idea.

Army of Anyone - anyone? (1)

EricR86 (1144023) | more than 6 years ago | (#21131657)

I thought I had read earlier that it was pretty certain that one of their songs from their new self-titled album was going to be on that list with "It Doesn't Seem To Matter" as a prime candidate. This was back a few months after the release of their new album. So what happened? With Army of Anyone, there was a disappointing amount of sales, and now there's rumors of a break-up as Richard Patrick is going to work on his new Filter album. So does album sales drive what goes into the game and what doesn't? The album rocks. The songs rock. So what gives? Army of Anyone has the Deleo brothers from STP + Richard Patrick from Filter FYI.

Whilst I may have got previously excited about (1)

goldcd (587052) | more than 6 years ago | (#21131667)

track listings for GH3, after having played the demo I feel sad.
GH3 just doesn't 'feel right'. I'd have been quite happy if Neversoft had just picked up Harmonix's GH2 code and swapped out the tracks - but they didn't :(
Think I may hang on for Rock Band (although I'm never going to get all the kit as the gf already takes the piss enough of me, a grown man, with my little Fisher Price-stylee guitar)

Bah (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21131809)


Motorhead - Ace of Spades
The only song in the Guitar Hero series worth writing about.

GH3 vs Rock Band (1)

syrinx (106469) | more than 6 years ago | (#21131869)

GH3: Coming out for the most popular current console (Wii).

Rock Band: Not. (At least not any time soon.)

Well, guess I know which one I'm getting.

However great Harmonix is, they completely missed the boat there -- music games like this are certain to appeal to Wii gamers more than others.

In any case, looks like a pretty good track list. I'm just hoping they get their shit together as far as downloadable content for the Wii, so I can play some of the songs from the older games. (And better pricing than what the 360 GH2 had would be nice; that was a bit ridiculous.)

Re:GH3 vs Rock Band (1)

Divide By Zero (70303) | more than 6 years ago | (#21132001)

This is exactly why I'm buying GH3 for Wii - put the sales numbers up there and we'll get a Wii version sooner than later.

And I am ABSOLUTELY with you on the DLC from previous games. I missed a lot of good songs by trying not to give Sony any money for that whole rootkit thing.

Re:GH3 vs Rock Band (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21132143)

You're a damned fool. Wii's audience is casual gamers. Does a $200 game sound casual to you? I love the Wii too, but you're just being ridiculous.

Re:GH3 vs Rock Band (1)

toleraen (831634) | more than 6 years ago | (#21132693)

Yeah, but how many people do you think picked up three extra Wiimotes + Nunchuks at $180 to play 4 player Wii Sports? Classic controllers for the VC? Game Cube controllers (for those that didn't have a Gamecube)? Charging stations? Wireless Sensor Bars? Wiimote protectors?

The Wii is an accessory makers dream...Rockband should fit right in.

Re:GH3 vs Rock Band (1)

hibiki_r (649814) | more than 6 years ago | (#21132903)

As if casual was defined by price. Casual is all about the game's content. Oblivion for 5 bucks is not casual. Guitar hero isn't exactly a cheap game, but it's the definition of casual.

But, if you don't believe me, look at the November and December figures early next year. Chances are GHIII sells about as much in the Wii as the 360 in the US with a smaller install base.

Casuals for Guitar Hero... (1)

trdrstv (986999) | more than 6 years ago | (#21134125)

You're a damned fool. Wii's audience is casual gamers. Does a $200 game sound casual to you? I love the Wii too, but you're just being ridiculous.

Casual games are defined by the type of game rather than the price. The type of people that the Wii attracts, fits right in with are largely the same demographic that would buy a Guitar Hero, DDR, or Karaoke game.

Re:GH3 vs Rock Band (1)

meringuoid (568297) | more than 6 years ago | (#21134905)

Wii's audience is casual gamers. Does a $200 game sound casual to you?

A pretty good slice of the Wii's audience is people who are cash-rich and time-poor. They want games they can pick up and play without having to commit a large amount of time at any one session.

A lot of people were happy to pay £270 for a Wii with three extra wiimotes just so they could play Wii Tennis doubles. No damn joke. They bought the console because their fanboy relative who bought it for Zelda brought it home over Christmas and they all wanted in on Wii Sports. You see that low attach rate for Wii game sales? These people are why. Wii Sports alone was worth it for them - any other games are a bonus.

This then is the casual gamer. They'll spend that much money if the game's right. I think the kind of person who would buy a novelty machine to play a four-way novelty sports game will be quite likely to be interested in a four-way novelty music game, too.

Re:GH3 vs Rock Band (1)

Plekto (1018050) | more than 6 years ago | (#21135061)

The number of really good bands that are missing is large, though. Most of them stayed with Harmonix/MTV (Rockband). It just somehow seems flat. A few good songs, and then tons of B side fillers. Loads of 70s and 80s stuff. None of the cutting-edge modern feel that Harmonix did so well. It really IS Dance-Dance-Hero. Good job, Sony.

Rock Band will cost more, but it's well worth it.

Oh, Rockband will cost the same as Guitar Hero III if you just want the game and a guitar controller. The $200 package has the drums, mic, and guitar. The drums kit is essentially a MIDI drum pad setup with a little bit or reworking, which is quite a deal, considering what they usually run.

Re:GH3 vs Rock Band (1)

xero314 (722674) | more than 6 years ago | (#21134757)

GH3: Coming out for the most popular current console
True GH3 is coming out for PS2. But without the downloadable content option I'm betting it forces a number of hold outs to finally upgrade.

However great Harmonix is, they completely missed the boat there
What harmonix is doing is not alienating there current fans (all PS2 and/or XBox 360 owners) and maintaining focus on just a couple consoles rather than all three. There will probably be a Wii version eventually but it's always better to appeal to your existing fan base first.

Personally I'm getting both (and had to finally make the jump to the current gen systems to do it).

Re:GH3 vs Rock Band (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21144773)

GH3 and Rock Band are both coming out for the console with the highest install base - PlayStation 2.

Carl Brutananadilewski (3, Funny)

everphilski (877346) | more than 6 years ago | (#21132179)

I don't need a set list to know how to ROCK!

/dons the Foreigner belt

Re:Carl Brutananadilewski (1)

Jesterboy (106813) | more than 6 years ago | (#21137019)

dons the Foreigner belt
Speaking of Foreigner, why hasn't there been a Foreigner song yet? Juke Box Hero? Urgent? Feels like the first time? Other ones that were mentioned on ATHF?

I can't imagine they're very expensive to license, either...

whats with guitar hero? (2, Interesting)

shlepp (796599) | more than 6 years ago | (#21136417)

Seriously, you can get a decent guitar from a pawn broker from $100, then all you need to do is visit http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/ [ultimate-guitar.com] and find the tab to your favorite song and literally be ACTUALLY playing it in minutes. All you need to do is start out with the Major and Minor scales, then the rest comes naturally and you will be actually be rocking and will be able to impress the ladies.

Re:whats with guitar hero? (2, Insightful)

Annymouse Cowherd (1037080) | more than 6 years ago | (#21136781)

No. Playing guitar is not easy like guitar hero.

Re:whats with guitar hero? (1)

jZnat (793348) | more than 6 years ago | (#21140299)

Speaking from experience, there are many songs in Guitar Hero that are easier to play on guitar than in expert. There are many "tricks" and techniques one can use while playing guitar that can't be done on a GH controller.

Yes! The DKs! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21139155)

All young people should play "Holiday in Cambodia" over and over and over again. Bonus: Jello Biafra is also an outspoken critic of DRM, abusive copyright laws and other idiotic ideas. Punk will save your sole. =)

Great music can make a great game immortal. It's like having music giants Brand Nubian and Cypress Hill (among others) in GTA:SA.
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