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Review of Asus Linux-Based Eee PC 701

kdawson posted more than 6 years ago | from the two-pounds-of-power dept.

Portables 227

Bongo Bob writes "CNET.co.uk has up a review of the Asus Eee PC 701 that runs Linux. According to the reviewer. 'It's hard to fault the Eee PC, mainly because of its price. It can be difficult to use because of the cramped keyboard, but it's better than similar-sized laptops like the Toshiba Libretto. If you're in the market for a second PC, or looking for something you can take with you almost anywhere, the Eee PC is definitely worth buying.'"

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227 comments

Smalll inexpensive linux thin client - fantastic! (3, Interesting)

mrbill1234 (715607) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146271)

This is just what I want - a small, cheap thin client. I think this one will be on my xmas list.

Being solid state - i'm thinking that this thing will be ultra quite too.

Re:Smalll inexpensive linux thin client - fantasti (5, Informative)

NeoSkink (737843) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146321)

And the Gutsy Gibbon seems to run great on them too! http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,1000000567,10006278o-2000331777b,00.htm [zdnet.co.uk]

Re:Smalll inexpensive linux thin client - fantasti (4, Informative)

kripkenstein (913150) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146913)

And the Gutsy Gibbon seems to run great on them too! http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,1000000567,10006278o-2000331777b,00.htm [zdnet.co.uk]
Well no, not according to that article:

There are some problems to fix. The wi-fi adaptor isn't working (it's an Atheros I haven't encountered before), there have been a couple of odd battery messages, and selecting power down from the desktop doesn't actually turn the PC off.
No wifi would be a showstopper for me personally. But anyhow, it does seem like this might be workable. Perhaps somebody will throw together an Eeebuntu? :)

Re:Smalll inexpensive linux thin client - fantasti (4, Informative)

ydrol (626558) | more than 6 years ago | (#21147277)

See first comment in TFA :)

Re:Smalll inexpensive linux thin client - fantasti (1, Informative)

this great guy (922511) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146395)

It is more than quiet, it is completely silent. There are no moving parts: no fan, no hard disk, no DVD drive.

On a side note, the Eee PC has the same size and weight (within +/- 10 mm in width and 50 g) than the Panasonic R series (I have the R3, this year's model is the R7): http://panasonic.jp/pc/products/r7b/index.html [panasonic.jp] However the R7 chooses another compromise: more expensive and more powerful.

Re:Smalll inexpensive linux thin client - fantasti (4, Informative)

mrbill1234 (715607) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146561)

The wikipedia article [wikipedia.org] implies that there is a fan and the next version of the Eee due in April 2008 will be without one.

Re:Smalll inexpensive linux thin client - fantasti (1)

this great guy (922511) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146681)

Oops, you are right. (I read a misleading article claiming it was fanless a few month ago.)

Before someone asks (4, Funny)

mrjb (547783) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146273)

Yes, it does run Linux.

Re:Before someone asks (1)

stonedcat (80201) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146323)

Damnit! What a spoiler!

Now what reason to I have to RTFA??

Re:Before someone asks (2, Funny)

creimer (824291) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146341)

It runs Windows XP. :P

Re:Before someone asks (1)

CrossChris (806549) | more than 6 years ago | (#21147167)

If you installed XP on it, you'd have little drive capacity left. After you've installed the anti-malware, anti-virus, anti-this and anti-that which are essential with Windows, you might be left with a few kb for applications and data! Leave the poor thing alone, and let it run its small, efficient, reliable and secure operating system. It works very well straight out of the box!

Re:Before someone asks (1, Informative)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 6 years ago | (#21147223)

After you've installed the anti-malware, anti-virus, anti-this and anti-that which are essential with Windows, you might be left with a few kb for applications and data!
But at least the wireless will work.

Re:Before someone asks (1)

vtcodger (957785) | more than 6 years ago | (#21147433)

***But at least the wireless will work***

Ehrrrrrr. The correct phraseology is "At least the wireless MIGHT work". I made my living for a decade before I retired out of the reality that not everything that should work in Windows does work in Windows. I've had two "identical" brand new Windows machines with consecutive serial numbers exhibit significantly different behavior after Ghosting in an applications image. More than once, in fact.

I'd agree that 'might' is better than 'won't'

Re:Before someone asks (3, Informative)

stuntpope (19736) | more than 6 years ago | (#21147617)

The wireless already works with the Linux that it ships with. According to the thread, it's Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon that has a problem with the wireless on it.

Re:Before someone asks (1)

dc29A (636871) | more than 6 years ago | (#21147427)

If you installed XP on it, you'd have little drive capacity left. After you've installed the anti-malware, anti-virus, anti-this and anti-that which are essential with Windows, you might be left with a few kb for applications and data! Leave the poor thing alone, and let it run its small, efficient, reliable and secure operating system. It works very well straight out of the box!
I run Windows without any anti-malware thank you very much! Just because the majority of people run Windows as administrator, use IE and blindly click on every retarded "OMG YOU WON AN IPOD!!!!oneone111!!!!" flashing banner, doesn't mean all people do. You can run Windows fine quite safe and secure without anti-malware software clogging your computer's arteries.

Re:Before someone asks (1)

Finallyjoined!!! (1158431) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146443)

The Eee PC is theoretically fast enough to run Windows XP, which is great news for those of us without beards.

Beards?

Dear CNET's Rory Reed, go fuck yourself. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21147171)

"for those of us without beards."

Hey Rory Reed, your comment is perfectly shitty and out of place. And I guess you don't have a beard since you phrase is as "those of us" and so I guess that means you find it far more convenient and useful to use Windows on this machine. So instead of just making obnoxious stereotyped comments, and let's not forget you and your editors at CNEt chose to start down this path kiddo, put your money where your mouth is.

Instead of just talking smack, go ahead and do a write up about how this machine works when you install Vista on it. Then you got something to say. Tell us all about the wonderful user experience you get when you do it. Put up or shut up you bald faced bitch.

Re:Before someone asks (1)

ozmanjusri (601766) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146449)

Yes, it does run Linux.

Have you imagined a Beowulf cluster of them already?

Re:Before someone asks (1)

ppc_digger (961188) | more than 6 years ago | (#21147001)

Have you imagined a Beowulf cluster of them already?
Not yet, but I, for one, would like to welcome our new Linux-powered overlords.

Re:Before someone asks (1)

aurispector (530273) | more than 6 years ago | (#21147639)

In Soviet Russia linux runs YOU.

There. Happy?

Re:Before someone asks (1)

ppc_digger (961188) | more than 6 years ago | (#21147707)

There. Happy?
I'm a vulcan, you insensitive clod!

...but will it run Vista? (5, Funny)

adamofgreyskull (640712) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146649)

Seeing as everything from a battleship to your grandparent's electric blanket will run Linux, I think we need a new meme...

Re:...but will it run Vista? (1)

Per Abrahamsen (1397) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146719)

With 512 MiB in the "large" model? Not likely.

Re:...but will it run Vista? (4, Funny)

solevita (967690) | more than 6 years ago | (#21147029)

But can it perform cunnilingus on a hardwood floor?

Re:...but will it run Vista? (2, Interesting)

the_brobdingnagian (917699) | more than 6 years ago | (#21147097)

Yes, but does it run OpenBSD? Seriously, I would like to know if all devices (wireless, graphics...) work under OpenBSD.

Re:Before someone asks (0, Offtopic)

Mistlefoot (636417) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146755)

Actually, it comes with Linux.

It also comes with instructions on how to install XP as well as a disk containing all the needed XP drivers.

Wouldn't it be nice if all PC's were like this? Support for more than one OS.

At 8" x 6" x 1.5" and 2 pounds this is truly a device that is easily portable as well.

Excellent (1)

inflex (123318) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146277)

Just want I've been wanting, something that's super light/portable but has enough facilities to let me reconnect to the world and/or do service work, throw it in the brief case or the car. Price is a nice change too (usually expect things like this to be 2~4x the price).

The Official CmdrTaco Review of the Asus EeePC 701 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21146313)

No tablet capabilities. Less RAM than a Thinkpad X41 Tablet. Lame.

In other words... (1)

kiddygrinder (605598) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146607)

It's not a tablet.

Re:In other words... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21147381)

Nor a moon.

Student market (3, Interesting)

meatflower (830472) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146317)

If they advertise this right they could see big sales among students. I'm going to be taking some programming classes next semester and this looks like it would be great to carry around to practice with.

Re:Student market (1)

MBHkewl (807459) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146453)

I'm sorry, but you are mistaken, somewhat.

This laptop is for non-IT students, since compiling on the Solid State Disk (SSD) will kill it with-in a few months.

Re:Student market (1)

Kelvie (822725) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146527)

That's what SSH is for.

Re:Student market (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21146533)

> This laptop is for non-IT students, since compiling on the Solid State Disk (SSD)
> will kill it with-in a few months.

Not true, with proper wear levelling (jffs2 on bare flash or a proper
hardware FlashTranslationLayer), it lasts as long as any hdd.

Re:Student market (3, Insightful)

afroborg (677708) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146771)

Hmm - despite the fact that this is no longer true with current wear-levelling techniques, you could quite easily compile to a RAM disk if you were really all that worried.

Re:Student market (1)

marcansoft (727665) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146897)

Compiling isn't much different than any other disk activity. Now if you run Gentoo it might make a difference, but random one-off programs from class? That's probably equivalent to saving your average OOo document a few times.

Asus Eee PC 701 vs. Alphasmart Neo (2, Interesting)

creimer (824291) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146329)

For general word processing, how would the Asus Eee PC 701 compare against the Alphasmart Neo [alphasmart.com] ?

Re:Asus Eee PC 701 vs. Alphasmart Neo (4, Informative)

OrangeTide (124937) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146405)

Eee PC is slighty more expensive and has a shorter battery life. And the Alphasmart's keyboard is better for normal adult sized hands.

But the flexibility of applications and significantly more powerful wordprocessors available for the Eee PC makes it pretty attractive. Plus the ability to use wireless internet to have access to very complete online dictionaries, thesauruses and encyclopedias makes the EeePC a bit more versatile for writers. assuming you can get used to the keyboard.

I'm planning on getting two EeePCs, one for a writer and one for a programmer(myself).

Re:Asus Eee PC 701 vs. Alphasmart Neo (2, Insightful)

MBHkewl (807459) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146463)

Do you really use a laptop to just type" nowadays?

You're more likely to have a copy online (GMail?), to keep it in a safe place, and/or share it with certain people. So, the wifi comes in handy.
Having a general purpose tool is better than a restricted one, especially when they come at the same price.

Then again, you might have issues with the keyboard.

Re:Asus Eee PC 701 vs. Alphasmart Neo (1)

creimer (824291) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146493)

Do you really use a laptop to just type" nowadays?

No, I got a manual typewriter. :)

Then again, you might have issues with the keyboard.

That's something I'm concern about. I want something that's small enough to throw into a bag without worrying about it too much. But I also don't need another gadget/paperweight to add to my collection.

Re:Asus Eee PC 701 vs. Alphasmart Neo (1)

Simon Brooke (45012) | more than 6 years ago | (#21147119)

That's something I'm concern about. I want something that's small enough to throw into a bag without worrying about it too much. But I also don't need another gadget/paperweight to add to my collection.

I used a Toshiba Libretto (with Debian, naturally) for years, and loved it. You very quickly get used to a small pitch keyboard, and within a couple of weeks will be touch-typing on it without difficulty. Keyboard feel, of course, is another issue, and I'd need to actually type on an EEE before I will know whether I want one. But it seems like an ideal package, and companies who are prepared to bring Linux products to the masses deserve to be supported.

Re:Asus Eee PC 701 vs. Alphasmart Neo (1)

GreatBunzinni (642500) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146785)

Since it is a full fledge PC and runs any text editor that you may think of along with software like TeX and LaTeX without a single problem, not to mention WYSIWYG office suits like OpenOffice and KOffice, I'd say that that the Eee PC deprecates that little toy in every single category possibly imaginable.

Re:Asus Eee PC 701 vs. Alphasmart Neo (1)

Rob Simpson (533360) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146909)

Except for the 700 hours of battery life (versus up to 4 hours) and desktop-sized keyboard parts.

Re:Asus Eee PC 701 vs. Alphasmart Neo (1)

vtcodger (957785) | more than 6 years ago | (#21147465)

***I'd say that that the Eee PC deprecates that little toy in every single category possibly imaginable.***

I don't know about the Alphasmart Neo, but when I did school IT, we bought the old Alphasmarts instead of real laptops for Special Ed students for one reason. The Alphasmarts are virtually indestructible. Like military computers, they may be mediocre at computing, but they are still mediocre rather than dead after being dropped, stepped on, used as weapons, or otherwise abused.

Re:Asus Eee PC 701 vs. Alphasmart Neo (1)

DrXym (126579) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146793)

For general word processing, how would the Asus Eee PC 701 compare against the Alphasmart Neo?

It probably wouldn't compare at all if the one and only thing you want to do is write documents. I would hope that any word processing device is going to focus heavily on keyboard comfort, text input because it doesn't have much else to worry about. I would expect a $220 word processor to feature a very comfortable keyboard.

Whereas the Asus eee pc is a small form factor PC that runs a word processor amongst other things. I doubt it would win a typing test, or a battery life test either. The keyboard is going to be cramped and the word pro has to be fired up by navigating through menus. But then again, the eee does a hell of a lot more than just text. It can browse the web, make calls, text, spreadsheets, presentations, edit photos, games and more besides. It is a full blown but very small PC.

Take your pick depending on your needs.

Re:Asus Eee PC 701 vs. Alphasmart Neo (1)

CrossChris (806549) | more than 6 years ago | (#21147139)

The Neo is a wordprocessing appliance. The Eee is a fully fledged Linux based laptop computer. No comparison.

The Eee works wonderfully well here on my network as a wireless client - it's just the right size to carry with you, and is very robust. I just need to find supply of a larger capacity SDD - 4 Gb is filling up very quickly!

Re:Asus Eee PC 701 vs. Alphasmart Neo (0, Redundant)

david.given (6740) | more than 6 years ago | (#21147367)

I've always been rather intrigued by the AlphaSmart Dana [alphasmart.com] (where do they come up with these names...). 25 hour battery, full sized keyboard, decent sized touch screen (looks like 640x200), wireless, USB, some mysterious expansion slots (can't figure out what kind), and above all it runs PalmOS. Which means you can use your own applications on it.

Does anyone actually have one? Or has seen one?

Alphasmart makes me sick. (1)

Fantastic Lad (198284) | more than 6 years ago | (#21147369)

The two things which have kept me away from Alphasmart have been. . .

1. The small LCD screen. --I find it very hard to write on something where I cannot see the whole paragraph I'm working on. And. . .

2. Their outrageous prices. $600 for a keyboard and a very small LCD screen? What's that? Like $10 in parts? --It was obviously a greed-inspired ploy to sell lots of units to schools on government contracts. This seemed criminal enough that I swore I'd never buy one of their products until their pricing dropped to non-criminal levels. The funny thing is that they panicked with these new small notebooks coming out, like the OLPC, and dropped their prices so that they're only making a 2000% profit, but even in so doing, they are not a company with even a shred of actual altruism.

The only two things Alphasmart has going for it are battery life and a big keyboard. But their business practice still makes me want to drop them like a warm bag of shit, and I sincerely hope their business goes belly up. Also, I picked up a used HP Jonada810 for my portable word processing, and it does a great job. The 4 hour battery life on that thing suits me just fine, since I'm rarely away from a power outlet for that long.

So, depending on the keyboard qualities, I'll either be picking up one of ASUS' machines or an OLPC. --And I don't think I'd mind taking a small tech disadvantage (if there is one), so that I can make sure that when I buy a machine, a kid somewhere can benefit from a free laptop. Connecting the world is a great idea!


-FL

Link to the photos (4, Informative)

cerberusss (660701) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146385)

Here's a .

And if it's slow, here's the coral cache: pic1 [nyud.net]
pic2 [nyud.net]
pic3 [nyud.net]
pic4 [nyud.net]
pic5 [nyud.net]
pic6 [nyud.net]
pic7 [nyud.net]
pic7 [nyud.net]
pic7 [nyud.net]


I've gotta say, this is one lovely machine. Full Linux installation etc. What irritated me was the comment that 'you can install Windows XP, for those of us who don't have beards'.

Ha. Ha. Ha. It's funny. Laugh.

Re:Link to the photos (3, Informative)

eddy (18759) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146779)

How about some videos, complete with size comparison against a 15.4"'er... [notebookreview.com] . Note the funny 'hey, a USB-memory just works on linux, huh?!' stuff in there. Hilarious if it weren't so sad.

Re:Link to the photos (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21146815)

This eBay auction [ebay.com.au] also has a bunch of pictures and close-ups of the interface.

Re:Link to the photos (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21147633)

Is the kitten [coolaler.com] included? Want kitten! Kitten!

Re:Link to the photos (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21147013)

How about the preceding "It's Linux so there's open source software available". As in, Linux equals open-source, and open-source equals free-of-charge? Clueful, C|Net, indeed...

Re:Link to the photos (1)

dominux (731134) | more than 6 years ago | (#21147187)

my kids aged 3,5 and 7 all use Linux and have never used Windows. None of them have managed to grow a beard. I don't have one myself. Neither does my wife.

Re:Link to the photos (1)

muyuubyou (621373) | more than 6 years ago | (#21147189)

I wonder why didn't that guy use a real camera. Horrible pics.

Few nit-picks about this machine:
- a lot of real-estate wasted to the sides of the screen. Couldn't they put there thumb-pointers like those in the VAIO UX50? or at some cursor buttons? For reference: http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/08/unboxing-the-sony-vaio-ux50/ [engadget.com]
- a second, fanless, merom-based generation is already coming in April. If they keep the same price I'm in. http://www.digitimes.com/systems/a20070904PD215.html [digitimes.com]

Going down to 7W from 11W looks pretty big to me.

User Site (5, Informative)

MrCopilot (871878) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146427)

http://www.eeeuser.com/ [eeeuser.com]

Great Unboxing / Hands on review.

Can't wait for them to go on sale stateside.

Re:User Site (2, Informative)

AncientPC (951874) | more than 6 years ago | (#21147173)

According to that site, the 4G will launch in US on 11/1/07. I wonder when the 8G will be available, and the prices for each model ($245 for 2G / $440 for 4G?).

But (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21146441)

does it run Vista?

A slashvertisment about Linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21146455)

Is still a slashvertisment.

It looks very promising (2, Informative)

fredboboss (1059056) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146457)

This ASUS EEE looks to be very promising, small, light, it fills the gap between PDAs and UMPCs. And it's all about reliability, low power, almost no moving parts, and Linux (Xandros). A lot of people (like me) are getting really impatient, some are about to get mad. This site has also neat reviews of the thing : http://www.blogeee.net/ [blogeee.net] (translation) : http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blogeee.net%2F&langpair=fr%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools [google.com]

What about installing fave Distro? (2, Interesting)

mooterSkooter (1132489) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146477)

So, yeah, how simple would it be to install another distro and what distro is on there now? I mean, would ubuntu run well on it or would I have to use DSL (which I'm tinkering with right now)

Re:What about installing fave Distro? (1)

MBHkewl (807459) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146529)

Your question is redundant, as someone [slashdot.org] already pointed that out.

Fantastic niche market machine (2, Interesting)

asc99c (938635) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146569)

There's my new support laptop sorted out. This looks very well targeted at the ever expanding groups of people who always just might need to get to a PC at any given time. I spend half my life on out-of-hours support for various systems.

There's a 15 minute response time so I can normally just throw the laptop in the car boot - as a result I've got a fantastic 17" laptop which is great for working on. But it's more luggable than portable. The occasions when I'm going to be more than 15 mins from the car, it's a real pain carrying a laptop weighing over 4 kilos.

I've been in the market for an ultra-portable for the last year. All it needs to do is run Putty, have a web browser, and VNC back to the office for any specialist applications. It'll probably only be used once or twice a week - and by used I mean carried around with me just in case - it'll get switched on less than that. Finally got something on the market at the right price.

Not that good value now (2, Insightful)

reclusivemonkey (703154) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146571)

I saw the news about this a while back before it was released. However I was recently bought a laptop by my sister for £300 from Tescos here in the UK. Its a Gateway ML3108b [gateway.com] and runs Linux just fine (although the soundcard doesn't seem to work). When you look at the price of fully fledged laptops now, this doesn't seem much of a deal.

Re:Not that good value now (2, Insightful)

mrbill1234 (715607) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146585)

I think the issue here is the size of the Eee, not the features. You won't find something of the Eee's side for that price.

Re:Not that good value now (1)

the grace of R'hllor (530051) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146875)

Bad points:
- It's got a 14.1" screen
- It weighs 2.4kg ("System unit only". Does that mean without battery?)

From what I've found, the Eee PC 701 has a 7" screen and weighs under a kilogram, all inclusive. Normally you pay through the nose for that kind of size.

Not through the nose (1)

DingerX (847589) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146999)

Asus, for example, makes an UMPC with the same processor, 7" 800x480 screen, and a 60GB drive, plus all kinds of bonuses for twice the price of an Eee.

I debated waiting for the Eee, but watching the prices climb and the features drop, I ended up getting a Nokia 800 (4.1" 800x480 screen), which you can equip with memory and a keyboard for the price of an Eee. Even smaller size and weight, slower processor, but an "always on/rarely plugged in" philosophy that is better for certain tasks.

So it's not that "you pay through the nose", but that, in the race for power and portability, the measuring stick has been Windows. Once you junk it in all its forms (Vista, Tablet Edition, CE), you can put together a slim OS that does exactly what you need the hardware to do, and does it with a lot less overhead.

So normally you'd pay through the nose for a super PC shoehorned into a tiny box. Here, we have an underpowered PC in a tiny box. And it is enough to start the revolution.

This and the OLPC are going start a revolution (5, Insightful)

DrXym (126579) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146609)

The Asus EEE is the perfect device for using on planes, coffee shops, lecture halls, holidays etc. It has a decent suite of apps, has wifi, can (in theory) run anything Linux has to offer, it's tiny and it's very, very cheap. I imagine you could even use one of this on an airline tray which is impressive in itself.

The price is also important. It sucks if it gets dropped or stolen but not as much as if it happened to a Vaio costing 4x as much. I expect people will be tossing these eee devices into backpacks rather than hauling around enormous laptop cases. If I were Microsoft I would be very scared by the trend these ultracheap laptops will start. Not only do they demonstrate that Windows is not a necessity, they'll act as a wedge for Firefox, OpenOffice, and Linux too.

The same applies to the OLPC assuming they produce a commercial variant. They really should since I predict there is a lot of money to be made if they did.

Re:This and the OLPC are going start a revolution (1)

Alioth (221270) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146759)

I can use my 12in PowerBook on an airline tray (in steerage). But it did cost 4 times as much :-)

My trouble with airline trays is that I usually have some kid sitting in the seat in front, who insists on not slowly reclining their seat, but slamming it back to the stop at close to relativistic speeds. I've nearly had my display broken by that (trapped between the seat and tray), and nearly had my airline dinner on my lap because of that too. They should put a damper in the seats to limit the speed at which a passenger can recline them.

Re:This and the OLPC are going start a revolution (1)

vtcodger (957785) | more than 6 years ago | (#21147495)

***My trouble with airline trays is that I usually have some kid sitting in the seat in front, who insists on not slowly reclining their seat, but slamming it back to the stop at close to relativistic speeds.***

They should ship those things (kids) as luggage -- or, at the very least, tie them up and stuff them into the overhead bins. It'd make air travel much less stressful for non-related adults.

OLPC is better. This is a tepid deal at best. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21146615)

For the same price you can buy and OLPC and give one away. This used to be a deal
when it was announced back in June that the eee would cost $199, now it's not even
competitive given its undersized screen and keyboard. You could also buy Nokia 800
internet tablet now for about $240

Too bad it has Xandros aboard (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21146617)

Sorry Asus, I'm not giving a single cent to companies that bend over to Microsoft.
The day you sell the Eee PC without a preloaded distro, or with a different one, is the day I'll start considering this machine.

Call me trollish, but it's the only known way customers can use to discourage Linux businesses to get in bed with Microsoft.

Re:Too bad it has Xandros aboard (1)

Vinegar Joe (998110) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146641)

Asus has also been making notebooks for Apple for many years.

Re:Too bad it has Xandros aboard (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21146777)

Yup, but my complaint was about the Xandros adoption, not Asus itself. If I buy this laptop it's possible that some money goes indirectly to Microsoft, therefore my choice to not buy it until they remove/change Xandros.

Re:Too bad it has Xandros aboard (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21147289)

Jesus, you can't fucking please some people.

2 steps forward, one jump back. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21147441)

For years we couldn't get reasonably priced, current-spec laptops without paying the windows tax. Thankfully that's largely changed and now this nifty, desirable, linux installed sub-notebook comes along -- complete with a more sinister variant of the Microsoft tax we waited years to be rid off.

I'd order one of these things today but I'm lending no credence to the idea that linux distros contain anything that requires users pay a tax to Microsoft. Those of us who know about the Microsoft deals would be how many levels of stupid to fall into the trap? Hopefully Asus can offer an alternate vendor or OS-free special orders for the second generation memron based machines.

Re:Too bad it has Xandros aboard (1)

walter_f (889353) | more than 6 years ago | (#21147723)

Asus has also been making notebooks for Apple for many years

Even worse.

Another foe to GNU/GPLed FOSS software.

But as long Asus doesn't pre-install Windows, billing me the usual rate, _and_ as long as I can install my favourite Linux distribution instead of Xandros... ;-)

TV Output (1)

adderofaspyre (800203) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146675)

Does anyone know if the D-Sub VGA connector could be used for TV output? Watching movies from an USB drive on the TV with this small thing would be nice.

Re:TV Output (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21146745)

Why would you ask something like this? Why would you ask in this way? VGA D-sub is meant for VGA D-sub. What are you _really_ asking?

Costs as little as £169 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21146703)

"Costs as little as £169"

[http://www.google.co.uk/products?q=eee+701+asus&um=1&ie=UTF-8 not really]

Yay! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21146709)

Understatement: This is among the most exciting new things in a long time.
(i.e. 'I am so happy', etc.)

Re:Yay! (1)

coastwalker (307620) | more than 6 years ago | (#21147565)

I'm impressed. I have been living with a JVC mininote laptop for the last two years. It cost £700 and runs XP, has a 7" screen, WiFi and goes everywhere with me. Plugs into a usb dock fed by 3 hard drives, 20" monitor and keyboard & mouse at home. I think every man and his dog will be buying one of these - if it edits video then it will go in the hand luggage along with the digital camera on holiday.

I am suprised that it took so long for this form factor to come in at a low price. Portable computing power just rocks. Add a 2.5" portable hard drive and you can take your entire (300Gb?) media collection with you too.

Alto I'm going to buy one of these because it has a linux distro on it and I'm not ever going to buy a Vista machine, so I'm going to change the market by voting with my wallet.

Hm.. (1)

Hsien-Ko (1090623) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146935)

no one mentioned the video hardware, or i'm too tired to find where at least. Hope it does OpenGL :/

Re:Hm.. (3, Informative)

Aladrin (926209) | more than 6 years ago | (#21147009)

You are correct, nobody talks about it. All of the technical specs only say 'Intel chipset' and don't actually say that includes the video, but it does. Downloading the Chinese WinXP driver and extracting it shows it's either:

Intel GMA and part of the G965 series.
Mobile Intel(R) 910GML Express Chipset

I'm betting on the latter, and the rest is just stuff they forgot to remove when they were hastily throwing together the XP driver.

Just one little drawback ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21146963)

Given the smallish keyboard real estate, it would have been nice to put an IBM trackpoint instead of the bulky 'laptop scanpad' ... I even find them easier to use on the long run ...
But, who am I to complain while it's preloaded with Linux ... and at such a low price tag ...

Travel computer (1)

Error27 (100234) | more than 6 years ago | (#21146971)

I'm thinking about buying the Nokia n810 for something to dork around with while bike touring. The advantage to the Eee is the large keyboard and possibly lower cost. It looks slightly sturdier too. The advantage with the Nokia is the built in GPS and longer battery life.

I'm conflicted.

Btw. It would be cool if someone sold a battery powered external usb DVD drive. Like say if I bought a DVD on the road but I didn't want to run my main battery down.

Re:Travel computer (1)

Ceres54 (609053) | more than 6 years ago | (#21147713)

I also was conflicted when I first saw the eee pc line, but less so now. I have seen 1 review that said the shell was thin and the reviewer didn't think it would stand up to books in a back pack. The second along these lines showed one with a cracked screen after, reportedly, normal treatment. I think I will go for the Nokia 810. I have a 770 that I have been very happy with. It has terminal and ssh, browser and pdf reader, and a fantastic developer community. The only thing that worries me is that the 810 has no screen cover. My 770 has a metal shield that slides over the screen. I really can just toss it in a back pack. Other than that, if the 810 is made of the same stuff as the 770, it will be very sturdy.

pointer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21147033)

Touchpad? No pointing stick? Reject :-(

Microsoft patent tax (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21147059)

I wonder if Asus realize that they'd have sold more if they didn't pick some fringe linux distro run by morons? Companies that do deals with Microsoft are taking money on the understanding it's their suppliers and customers pants they are being paid to drop. So unless someone is a complete idiot, they're going to avoid these companies products.

Asus, please supply the Eee PC without an OS.

Re:Microsoft patent tax (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21147205)

That's right, I'm a troll for wanting an Eee PC but not wanting to encourage greedy linux distributors to sell us all out to Microsoft.

No way on Earth will I ever pay for a distro that pays* protection money to Microsoft.

* Although currently Microsoft pay-off the distributor so they get to claim everyone has some financial obligation to Microsoft if they use linux. How else can they build a successful extortion racket based on unsubstantiated and nonspecific threats?

Speech recognition (1)

ladoga (931420) | more than 6 years ago | (#21147101)

What speech recognition software does Eee PC 701 use?

I'm asking as I couldn't find it mentioned anywhere. It seems and sounds like something that would be fun to launch apps with on my Thinkpad X41.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aK3PVacIXc [youtube.com]

You mean ... (1)

MPAB (1074440) | more than 6 years ago | (#21147125)

The EeCC1701 runs on Linux?

go figure ...

RE:["the Eee PC is definitely worth buying"] (1)

FudRucker (866063) | more than 6 years ago | (#21147279)

except it comes preloaded with xandros, and i wont buy the Asus Eee because Xandros signed a deal with Microsoft...

i refuse to support any Linux Distributer that signs deals with the enemy of GNU/GPLed FOSS software, the friend of my enemy is my enemy too...

Eclipse (2, Interesting)

Bloater (12932) | more than 6 years ago | (#21147409)

But can I run eclipse on it? and fit the gcc/g++ toolchain and all the intermediate build files for my projects on its flash storage?

Re:Eclipse (1)

realdodgeman (1113225) | more than 6 years ago | (#21147627)

On the 4GB version the OS itself uses 33% of the storage space, so fitting eclipse wouldn't be to hard.

I want one. (1)

babbling (952366) | more than 6 years ago | (#21147705)

I'm in Australia. Does anyone know how I can get one within the next few weeks?
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