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First Fossil Evidence That Velociraptors Hunted in Packs

Zonk posted more than 6 years ago | from the clever-girl dept.

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Ponca City, We Love You writes "The New Scientist reports that palaeontologists have excavated a fossil trackway in Shandong Province in China 100 to 120 million years old that contains footprints left by six Dromeosaurs, the more formal name for raptors, showing evidence of group behavior. Up until now, the popular stereotype from Jurassic Park of raptors hunting in packs has had no fossil evidence to back it up. The paths of the six 90 kilo raptors do not overlap where the animals walked alongside a river or stream. '"The odds of these tracks being made by different individuals that just happen to be moving in the same direction, without their tracks stepping on one another, are small," said Jerry D. Harris, director of paleontology at Dixie State College. "Groups that do that usually have relatively sophisticated behavior, and they're relatively intelligent," Harris added. "By moving together in groups, it's entirely possible that they hunted in groups."'"

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Fossil evidence? (5, Funny)

Kohath (38547) | more than 6 years ago | (#21173429)

Who needs fossil evidence? Just watch the movie. See? Packs.

Re:Fossil evidence? (4, Funny)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 6 years ago | (#21173457)

Who needs fossil evidence? Just watch the movie. See? Packs.
And we know those bastards are light, too! Sure, they may look like they weigh a couple hundred pounds, but a 90 pound girl can knock one across the room with the right acrobatic attack!

Re:Fossil evidence? (5, Funny)

LiquidAvatar (772805) | more than 6 years ago | (#21174365)

I bet that you're one of those people who insists on acknowledging Highlander 2...

Re:Fossil evidence? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21174787)

In other news...scientists discover that spaceships make loud whooshing sounds as they go by, and maneuver better if they bank during turns!

Re:Fossil evidence? (3, Funny)

tcc3 (958644) | more than 6 years ago | (#21175499)

They made a Highlander II? =)

Re:Fossil evidence? (3, Funny)

Darby (84953) | more than 6 years ago | (#21175923)


I bet that you're one of those people who insists on acknowledging Highlander 2...


Damn, Dude. That was harsh ;-)

XKCD (2, Funny)

dtmfdan (951283) | more than 6 years ago | (#21173481)

let the XKCD references begin

Re:XKCD (2, Funny)

physicsboy500 (645835) | more than 6 years ago | (#21173583)

Indeed [xkcd.com]

Re:XKCD (3, Funny)

celardore (844933) | more than 6 years ago | (#21175645)

google search [xkcd.com]

Re:XKCD (2, Informative)

doti (966971) | more than 6 years ago | (#21176001)

Don't forget the NO-RAPTORS t-shirt, at http://xkcd.com/store [xkcd.com]

Say no to velociraptors (and all other members of the dromaeosaurid family). By wearing this shirt, you make your position clear: you do NOT want to be hunted down and eaten by raptors.

Re:Fossil evidence? (1)

joemawlma (897746) | more than 6 years ago | (#21174045)

"clever girl"

Historical inaccuracies (0, Flamebait)

stefanlasiewski (63134) | more than 6 years ago | (#21174861)

The movie is a work of fiction. Once again, an American movie director distorts history to satisfy American audiences. This is an affront to our history-- why do we tollerate it?

The movie shows American packs. However, any history book will show that those are clearly British packs.

Re:Historical inaccuracies (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21175097)

The movie is a work of fiction[...] why do we tollerate it?
Perhaps because it's spelled correctly?

Wrong you are, limey twit (1)

A nonymous Coward (7548) | more than 6 years ago | (#21175249)

any history book will show that those are clearly British packs

Considering it was before the 1707 Act of Union (or whatever that treaty was that "united" England and Scotland),
they may have been English packs (probably rugby hooligans) but they were not British packs.

Well, I am American, so I've probably got redcoat history wrong too. But they weren't British packs.

Re:Wrong you are, limey twit (1)

owlnation (858981) | more than 6 years ago | (#21175887)

Well, I am American, so I've probably got redcoat history wrong too. But they weren't British packs.
Quite correct -ish.
  • 1603 Union of The Crowns
  • 1707 Act of Union (Parliaments)
  • 1995 Braveheart -- The Act of Gibson (the rewriting of history and the beginning of the end)
  • 1997 Scotland Act (The Act of Fools), The End.
Since Britain refers to the island also, they could still be British Packs. But judging by their behavior I'd suggest Scots or Irish in all likelihood.
(before any nationalists switch flame-on, I was born in Edinburgh, but consider myself British. There is no country of Scotland. There was, and (sadly) there may yet be. But right now, it only exists in tiny nazi-onalist minds.)

Re:Fossil evidence? (0, Offtopic)

davidsyes (765062) | more than 6 years ago | (#21175269)

I say they were HOBBITS. The tracks are their HOBBITRAILS... these were the precursors to the hunter-killer packs. These had highly-modifiable feet.

More at:

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2007-09/21/content_6124873.htm [chinadaily.com.cn]

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/10/1027_041027_homo_floresiensis.html [nationalgeographic.com]

(wink, wink)

Run, Randall, Run! (3, Informative)

ClayJar (126217) | more than 6 years ago | (#21173451)

(I hope this doesn't get in the way of my thrice-weekly xkcd [xkcd.com] entertainment.)

Re:Run, Randall, Run! (5, Funny)

mark99 (459508) | more than 6 years ago | (#21173759)

This link is more relevant: http://xkcd.com/135/ [xkcd.com]

Re:Run, Randall, Run! (4, Funny)

spun (1352) | more than 6 years ago | (#21173929)

And this one. [xkcd.com] Where are your velociraptor entry-points?

One little GOTO (3, Funny)

GogglesPisano (199483) | more than 6 years ago | (#21175129)


And this one as well [xkcd.com] .

Re:Run, Randall, Run! (1)

Fallingcow (213461) | more than 6 years ago | (#21173931)

From one of the other two comics I read aside from xkcd:

dino baby [pbfcomics.com]

Re:Run, Randall, Run! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21174281)

Question one states that Raptors reach a top speed of 25 meters a second.

Question three states that Raptors reach a top speed of 10 meters a second.

"Warning: this comic occasionally contains ... advanced mathematics (which may be unsuitable for liberal-arts majors)."

Is that right, eh?

Re:Run, Randall, Run! (2, Informative)

Fallingcow (213461) | more than 6 years ago | (#21174609)

No, in the second one, one of the three raptors has an injured leg and is limited to 10m/s. Otherwise, the problem would be much simpler.

Re:Run, Randall, Run! (1)

kayditty (641006) | more than 6 years ago | (#21175543)

I don't know how people can be so dumb. I pointed out the very same thing the grandparent did in a thread several months ago, and I got the exact same response.

You need a longer attention span, better reading comprehension, and less of a hair trigger. The problem states that raptors move at 25m/s. It is correct that 2) states one raptor is injured and limited to 10m/s as a result. However, the relevant portion is in a different section, 3), wherein it says plainly that raptors reach a maximum speed of 10m/s, contradicting 1). Have a nice day.

Re:Run, Randall, Run! (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21175571)

He meant the third question. Look at the very last line in the cartoon: "Remember, raptors run at 10 m/s and they do not know fear." The injured raptor is in the second.

While you can retcon it by saying "oh, it slows them down to run through a building", it still is inconsistent with the first question.

Duh? (4, Funny)

nih (411096) | more than 6 years ago | (#21173485)

seriously, i wish God would stop planting 'evidence' of dinosaurs, this is getting rather tiresome.

Re:Duh? (4, Funny)

Shaitan Apistos (1104613) | more than 6 years ago | (#21173921)

seriously, i wish God would stop planting 'evidence' of dinosaurs, this is getting rather tiresome.
Sigh. Why does everyone think Christians are stupid? We KNOW there were dinosaurs. Nothing in the bible says there weren't. They lived alongside man thousands of years ago and died out because they couldn't fit on the ark. Except the little ones which I can only assume were sinners.

Duh.

Re:Duh? (2, Funny)

someone1234 (830754) | more than 6 years ago | (#21174299)

But, it is somewhat curious that there is such evidence only after God had seen the movie.

Dude, it's not planted (3, Funny)

Moraelin (679338) | more than 6 years ago | (#21174629)

Well, it's not planted as such. At some point the great game designer in the sky thought it would be fun to have some big stuff running around the high level areas. And some 90 kilo birds that He planned to use later as the Blood Elves' mount.

But you know how that ends up working. You tweak a little here, a little there, and next thing you know they're whining that you've nerfed them to death and start cancelling their subscriptions in droves.

So, you know, cut Him some slack. What do you expect Him to do? Hide that they ever existed? Like that ever works. Try deleting just a post or two on a board and you end up with a whole rebellion on your hand. Try denying that the game ever had dinosaurs? Ooer... noone does... ermm...

Well, OK, so Sony's propaganda machine does try to present the new animal breeding on SWG like some revolutionary new feature, and not, say, like they had animal handlers in the first place and they removed them.

But I figure God is better than Sony, you know? (Ok, ok, so that's not hard to achieve;) He's not affraid to admit that some things weren't that well balanced in the first place and had to be changed.

Re:Duh? (1)

Hoi Polloi (522990) | more than 6 years ago | (#21174905)

According to the Creation Museum [msn.com] there should be some caveman tracks nearby too.

Re:Duh? It was the flood (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21175075)

The dinosaurs were running away from Noah's Flood.
Large numbers of entangled fossils are also found where the water swept them together.

Re:Duh? (1)

The Spoonman (634311) | more than 6 years ago | (#21176083)

I thought it was the devil that was planting them to throw us off the scent or lead us away from the "true" knowledge or something like that.

You'll never get off the Island! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21173489)

"Actually the other raptors and I have constructed a crude suspension bridge to Venezuela where I shall lie low and work odd jobs under the name Mr. Pilkington."

raptor pack prey (1)

King Gabey (593144) | more than 6 years ago | (#21173523)

I wonder what other dinosaurs would be prey for the Utah raptor... as vicious as they may be, I'd imagine some might be still too big for them (except maybe calves)

They walked in packs (1)

Wolfier (94144) | more than 6 years ago | (#21173529)

Any evidence of hunting while in packs? They could had walked to their offices to work in packs, just like we do.

Re:They walked in packs (1)

GodfatherofSoul (174979) | more than 6 years ago | (#21173623)

Pretty unlikely that they broke off as individuals to hunt. About the only analogy that would support that would be some sort of mass migration behavior like with birds. Hmmm...

Re:They walked in packs (1)

Cheapy (809643) | more than 6 years ago | (#21174845)

I'm more afraid of evidence that they could open doors.

Re:They walked in packs (5, Funny)

KidKadaver (1099449) | more than 6 years ago | (#21174949)

Yeah, this just establishes that they died in packs; perhaps also that they had cults and poor judgment.

Blasphemy!! (4, Funny)

Ronin X (121414) | more than 6 years ago | (#21173531)

They were obediently following Adam and Eve around, and it was only 6000 years ago.  Blasphemers!

6000 (2, Funny)

weirdcrashingnoises (1151951) | more than 6 years ago | (#21173613)

is the number of slashdotters that simultaneous think they should attempt to post something witty using this number.

pack hunters? (3, Funny)

trybywrench (584843) | more than 6 years ago | (#21173533)

so velociraptors may have been pack hunters? thanks for the nightmares.

Re:pack hunters? (5, Funny)

greenguy (162630) | more than 6 years ago | (#21174375)

TFA says there were six of them. I suppose that makes them six-pack hunters.

I can identify with that.

Re:pack hunters? (1)

owlnation (858981) | more than 6 years ago | (#21175595)

I suppose that makes them six-pack hunters.
Oh great! Drunken packs of savage dinosaurs... just what we need... I wonder if they evolved into Jocks?

Um, sorry... I mean, devolved.

Artisan Tracker (3, Insightful)

ChromaticDragon (1034458) | more than 6 years ago | (#21173573)

Nah... The movie that comes to my mind is completely different.

I am getting a picture of very clean cut, tall, dainty and somewhat immortal lithe man (with bow strapped across back, of course) darting back and forth across the plain. He sniffs here, looks there, describing what the signs indicate happened (all while you're seeing flashbacks to millions of years ago where the pack of raptors were hauling tail across the terrain with two little midget dinos tied to a couple raptors' backs because some dark T-Rex said "don't eat them".

That's some tracker...

Great News (5, Funny)

GammaKitsune (826576) | more than 6 years ago | (#21173599)

Now all we need to find is some evidence of raptors being able to open up doors, and we'll have proof that Hollywood knows more about Dinosaurs than Science.

Re:Great News (1)

Shakrai (717556) | more than 6 years ago | (#21174193)

Now all we need to find is some evidence of raptors being able to open up doors, and we'll have proof that Hollywood knows more about Dinosaurs than Science.

Eh, Hollywood sucks, but who is to say that they WOULDN'T have been able to figure out how to open a door, given the right motivation? My dog can open doors. Ever watch squirrels figure out "squirrel-proof" bird feeders? Ever seen a cat that was toilet trained?

Granted, the mammalian brain has tens of millions of years of evolution over the dinos, but who is to say what they would have been capable of? Imagine if we actually were able to somehow obtain an intact DNA strand, clone them and observe their behavior? It's probably not possible, because the science behind Jurassic Park was flawed in this area, but just imagine if it was?

Can you honestly say that you WOULDN'T go to a Jurassic Park if someone managed to pull it off?

Re:Great News (1)

smooth wombat (796938) | more than 6 years ago | (#21174287)

Can you honestly say that you WOULDN'T go to a Jurassic Park if someone managed to pull it off?


Every time the scene where they first see the dinos roaming about is shown, all I think is, "I'd give my entire life savings to visit such a place." I almost cry thinking about how cool it would be to walk with dinosaurs (present day birds, alligators, komodo dragons and other such creatures excluded).

So yes, in my case I would do everything both within and outside my power to see such a place. Not a zoo but a real, honest-to-goodness park where they can roam free and be who they are.

Re:Great News (1)

businessnerd (1009815) | more than 6 years ago | (#21175467)

You did finish the rest of the movie, right? I have to admit the park was pretty cool up until the dinosaurs started eating everyone.

Re:Great News (1)

Shakrai (717556) | more than 6 years ago | (#21175853)

That part of the movie was a crock of shit though. The book was at least somewhat more realistic on this. When the fences went down, the game warden guy wasn't even worried about it at first, because most of the animals had already been shocked a few times and it only takes a handful of shock events to condition an animal to avoid the fences, whether or not they are energized.

But let's look at the modern world. You know you can take a safari and get to within meters of apex predators without being attacked? You know that a lot of people go swimming in shark-infested waters all the time and you can count the number of annual shark attacks with your fingers.

For an animal to attack you it either has to perceive you as pray or feel threatened by you. Most animals are justifiably leery of human beings and don't consider them as suitable pray under normal circumstances. I see no reason why dinosaurs would be any less controllable with modern technology then any of the other dangerous animals that we interact with.

Re:Great News (1)

mcmonkey (96054) | more than 6 years ago | (#21176261)

You know that a lot of people go swimming in shark-infested waters all the time and you can count the number of annual shark attacks with your fingers.

Yes, but that's due to my fingers still being on the end of my intact hands and arms because I don't go swimming in shark-infested waters.

Re:Great News (1)

2names (531755) | more than 6 years ago | (#21175557)

So yes, in my case I would do everything both within and outside my power to see such a place. Not a zoo but a real, honest-to-goodness park where they can roam free and be who they are.

Sheesh. Lay off the dope, hippie.

Re:Great News (2, Interesting)

rucs_hack (784150) | more than 6 years ago | (#21174749)

Eh, Hollywood sucks, but who is to say that they WOULDN'T have been able to figure out how to open a door, given the right motivation?

If by motivation you mean claws you could fillet a buffalo with, then probably they could, at least with most of the doors I see.

Granted, the mammalian brain has tens of millions of years of evolution over the dinos,

The dinosaurs had no need for a large brain, they were the dominant species, most of them were big, there was food, water, it was warm, and they either ate each other or vegetation. Intelligence would not confer an evolutionary advantage.

Same's true for most mammals today. They don't need large brains because what they have gives them all the advantages they need. We only got them because we were being stomped on, chased, mauled and eaten by almost anything else alive. It was get smart or die out. Ok that's a simplification, but how many truly smart top predators are there?

Re:Great News (1)

Shakrai (717556) | more than 6 years ago | (#21176035)

We only got them because we were being stomped on, chased, mauled and eaten by almost anything else alive

And amazingly enough we survived in spite of all the disadvantages that our large brains bring. Like the complications of childbirth. How many other animals have birthing problems like we do? Or the fact that our young are completely helpless at birth, which while not exactly rare in the animal kingdom (common among mammals) is hardly an advantage.

but how many truly smart top predators are there?

Eh, off the top of my head, orcas [wikipedia.org] and wolves [wikipedia.org] both stand out as apex predators that are fairly intelligent. I could probably throw human beings onto that list, but that's probably cheating ;)

Re:Great News (1)

alx5000 (896642) | more than 6 years ago | (#21176203)

Mmmmmmmmm.... The makro sharks from Deep Blue Sea?

Re:Great News (1)

tcc3 (958644) | more than 6 years ago | (#21175623)

Sure I'd go. Just not to the special preview before the opening. Wait a few weeks.

Re:Great News (1)

meringuoid (568297) | more than 6 years ago | (#21175257)

Now all we need to find is some evidence of raptors being able to open up doors, and we'll have proof that Hollywood knows more about Dinosaurs than Science.

Raptors can open doors, but they are slowed by them. They take 5 minutes to open the first door and half the time for each subsequent door. Remember, raptors run at 10m/s and they do not know fear.

Re:Great News (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21175449)

Um, science doesn't know much either. They claim they can tell me the color of a dino's skin from the fossil. Yeah. Right.

At root, evolution is just a theory at this point and doesn't even make numerical predictions. Just, "whatever happens, was because of evolution".

Jurassic Park IV was right about 'raptors' (1)

Speefnarkle1982 (901875) | more than 6 years ago | (#21175819)

"Jurassic Park IV was right about 'raptors' " Jurassic Park had the right ideas about "raptor" dinosaurs - they were big, they were bad, and they were Grand Chess Masters...

No proof of hunting (1)

140Mandak262Jamuna (970587) | more than 6 years ago | (#21173683)

Even if you prove that they were together, it still does not mean they were hunting together. It is possible that they have just finished their end-sem examn and were hanging out together to relax with some beer around a camp fire. Or they were playing three a side basketball. Or just watching TV. Or they five of them were the chumps and the sixth one is the Amway salesraptor. There are so many possibilities, these guys are jumping to conclusion creating the image of vicious hunters and contaminating the jury pool.

Amway (1)

flyingfsck (986395) | more than 6 years ago | (#21174081)

"Amway salesraptor" Wow, that is scary. Almost as scary as a pair of bible punching Jehova's Witness raptors.

Re:No proof of hunting (2, Funny)

trongey (21550) | more than 6 years ago | (#21174641)

... they were playing three a side basketball...

This is rediculous. Have you ever tried to play 3on3 without anybody's paths crossing?
For that matter, what are the chances that six raptors with beers would be able to walk a straight line?
You clearly need to put more thought into your hypotheses before you present them. Now go and completely rewrite this paper.

Re:No proof of hunting (1)

Notquitecajun (1073646) | more than 6 years ago | (#21175403)

Starting with removing that silly "3 a side" phrase. It ain't an English sport.

China? (0, Redundant)

Numbah One (821914) | more than 6 years ago | (#21173695)

Raptors were Chinese?

Perhaps they didn't hunt together at all (0)

Lucas123 (935744) | more than 6 years ago | (#21173781)

Has anyone considered the possibility that they just died together, huddled en masse in fear as humans came along to reft their land from them?

Re:Perhaps they didn't hunt together at all (2, Funny)

vidarh (309115) | more than 6 years ago | (#21173925)

If they were so amazingly smart as to know that humans would come along a few tens of million years after their time, yet stupid enough to worry about it.... Nah, I think I'll discount that idea.

Re:Perhaps they didn't hunt together at all (1)

duggi (1114563) | more than 6 years ago | (#21174233)

Your idea might be interesting, but you spoiled it with the humans part. They might just have died together and we found the fossil record for that? From the article, It is just a collection of foot prints(non-overlapping is one key) and the group behaviour is deduced from this: The nature of the rock tells us that there cannot have been much time between the tracks being made and being buried by stream deposits in the Cretaceous period Maybe we are thinking about the group behaviour because we saw the movie? They might be hunting each other too(a possibility?). I think the above two observations are insufficient for any deduction. I would guess that they hunt alone, as all powerful non-social animals do(cheetah,tiger,crocs). But maybe thats why I am not a paleontologist.

Re:Perhaps they didn't hunt together at all (1)

Lucas123 (935744) | more than 6 years ago | (#21175113)

Yeah, perhaps. I was just trying to be funny. I'm going to have to work on that.

Dr. Grant was right! (4, Insightful)

Token_Internet_Girl (1131287) | more than 6 years ago | (#21173789)

"Try to imagine yourself in the Cretaceous Period. You get your first look at this "six foot turkey" as you enter a clearing. He moves like a bird, lightly, bobbing his head. And you keep still because you think that maybe his visual acuity is based on movement like T-Rex, he'll lose you if you don't move. But no, not Velociraptor. You stare at him, and he just stares right back. And that's when the attack comes. Not from the front, but from the side, from the other two 'raptors you didn't even know were there. Because Velociraptor's a pack hunter, you see, he uses coordinated attack patterns and he is out in force today. And he slashes at you with this... a six-inch retractable claw, like a razor, on the the middle toe. He doesn't bother to bite your jugular like a lion, say... no no. He slashes at you here... or here... or maybe across the belly, spilling your intestines. The point is... you are alive when they start to eat you. So you know... try to show a little respect.
"

Re:Dr. Grant was right! (4, Insightful)

Shakrai (717556) | more than 6 years ago | (#21174321)

He doesn't bother to bite your jugular like a lion, say... no no. He slashes at you here... or here... or maybe across the belly, spilling your intestines

I've always said that we mammals don't really have it that bad. Yeah, being eaten by a lion probably sucks, but at least he makes a halfway clean kill (closes the airway or bites into an artery and you bleed out) before him and his buds start to eat you.

Go a little lower on the chain then mammals and you'll find out just how much of a raving bitch mother nature truly is. The lion doesn't cripple you, lay his eggs inside you, to eventually hatch and consume you from the inside out while your are still alive. The lion doesn't dissolve your insides and suck them out while you lay there paralyzed from his venom.

Wow, I'm glad I'm on the top of the food chain.......

Re:Dr. Grant was right! (1)

Token_Internet_Girl (1131287) | more than 6 years ago | (#21174507)

Wow, I'm glad I'm on the top of the food chain.......
You're a CEO of a Fortune 500 company?? Can we go on a date pls :(

Re:Dr. Grant was right! (2, Funny)

PixelScuba (686633) | more than 6 years ago | (#21175567)

Token_Internet_Girl: Can we go on a date pls :(

It's a trick. Get an Axe.

Re:Dr. Grant was right! (1)

Neotrantor (597070) | more than 6 years ago | (#21175685)

I'd like to point out, if you gave someone your phone number in hex it would be exactly the same as in base 10

Re:Dr. Grant was right! (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21174735)

Yeah, being eaten by a lion probably sucks

Understatement of the week.......

Re:Dr. Grant was right! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21175717)

Good christ there is nothing in this world I hate more than spiders. THEY LIQUIFY YOUR INSIDES AND DRINK THEM AND YOU CAN'T DO A DAMN THING OH JESUS

I swear, if spiders ever got to the size of small dogs and roved around in packs, I would carry a shotgun with me everywhere I went.

Re:Dr. Grant was right! (1)

Enrique1218 (603187) | more than 6 years ago | (#21175723)

If we weren't on the top of the food chain, I would certainly be an advocate of mass extinction! (till we were on top, of course)

It was just ONE Velociraptor.. (5, Funny)

hansraj (458504) | more than 6 years ago | (#21173827)

.. with lots of free time and a sense of humor. :|

Jurassic Park (1)

maroberts (15852) | more than 6 years ago | (#21173841)

Seems to have won a number of educated guesses about how big dinosaurs were and how they acted. Its nice to see a film actually get things (more or less right).

The only thing that it seems they may come a cropper on is skin colouring and coating as it appears that velociraptors may have been feathered.

Re:Jurassic Park (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21175387)

That's largely because Michael Crichton actually read up a little on dinosaurs before he wrote the book. As I understand it, pack hunting was theorized for raptors before then, but simply didn't have any evidence.

The real motivation behind the tracks people (0, Redundant)

rubenerd (998797) | more than 6 years ago | (#21173947)

Clearly these dinosaurs weren't running millions of years ago and because they were hunting in packs... they were running 6000 years ago from great floods and packs of creationists. Even I didn't need to RTFA to know that.

Muldoon was right (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21173989)

clever girl(s)

Additional evidence (3, Funny)

Lurker2288 (995635) | more than 6 years ago | (#21174005)

"The paths of the six 90 kilo raptors do not overlap where the animals walked alongside a river or stream. '"The odds of these tracks being made by different individuals that just happen to be moving in the same direction, without their tracks stepping on one another, are small," said Jerry D. Harris, director of paleontology at Dixie State College."

Wow, they must really be smart. They travel single-file, to conceal their number.

Re:Additional evidence (1)

Chode2235 (866375) | more than 6 years ago | (#21176147)

...but the blast marks are too precise to be from raptors.

yes, they hunt in packs (1)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 6 years ago | (#21174051)

but they are not very good going after you if you hide in the ceiling tiles, they find kitchen floors slippery, and a good reflective aluminum surface should be good enough to give at least one of them a banged head

raptor math (0, Redundant)

steak (145650) | more than 6 years ago | (#21174103)

http://x008.uploaderx.net/x/details/913_raptors.jpg [uploaderx.net]

i love number 2

2. you are the center of a 20m equilateral triangle with a raptor at each corner. the top raptor has a wounded leg and is limited to a top speed of 10 m/s. the raptors run toward you. at what angle should you run to maximize the time you stay alive.

Re:raptor math (1)

dnwq (910646) | more than 6 years ago | (#21174259)

Stolen from here? [xkcd.com]

Let's find out (1)

Nonillion (266505) | more than 6 years ago | (#21174197)

So why don't we build a facility to breed them from DNA extracted from mosquitoes trapped in Amber, run the place with Silicon Graphics workstations with some smart ass obese slovenly IT guy... Oh wait..

Re:Let's find out (0, Offtopic)

Mammoth81 (1127147) | more than 6 years ago | (#21174785)

Where do I go to apply for the job of "some smart ass obese slovenly IT guy"?
I have all the qualifications:
Smart ass, check.
Obese, check.
Slovenly, check.
IT guy, check.

And do not think i am kidding, i am all of the above!

Obligatory. (1, Funny)

InvisblePinkUnicorn (1126837) | more than 6 years ago | (#21174255)

"They're moving in herds... they do move in herds!"

Best place to see dinosaur skeletons in Bay Area? (1)

cryfreedomlove (929828) | more than 6 years ago | (#21174329)

I live in the SF Bay Area. Where is the nearest place I can take my curious children to see full sized assembled dinosaur fossil skeletons? Thank you for the slightly off topic post.

Re:Best place to see dinosaur skeletons in Bay Are (1)

Kozar_The_Malignant (738483) | more than 6 years ago | (#21174671)

Try calling the California Academy of Sciences on Howard. 415-321-8000

Re:Best place to see dinosaur skeletons in Bay Are (2, Funny)

Chapter80 (926879) | more than 6 years ago | (#21174679)

I live in the SF Bay Area. Where is the nearest place I can take my curious children to see full sized assembled dinosaur fossil skeletons?
Simple. Just stay where you are.
No need to travel to a new place. Simply travel back in time 100 million years.

Re:Best place to see dinosaur skeletons in Bay Are (1)

TimToady (52230) | more than 6 years ago | (#21175577)

So you think the SF Bay Area was in exactly the same place 100 million years ago, do you? Quite apart from the motion of the earth around the sun, and the motion of the sun around the galaxy, and the motion of galaxy through space, the terranes that now comprise the Bay Area were off in at least six different parts of the world at that time. So you'll have to be a bit more specific...

Re:Best place to see dinosaur skeletons in Bay Are (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21175783)

Not quite in the neighborhood, but if you ever come to Europe, pop over to the Natural History Museum in Brussels. It has the largest dinosaurus collection of Europe and it just finished a renovation of 25mio . In the free-of-charge opening Weekend (last week). there were 18000 visitors (the museum is now closed again for refurbishing). There were 3 hour waiting lines: http://www.naturalsciences.be/index_html [naturalsciences.be]

that is not news... (5, Funny)

garompeta (1068578) | more than 6 years ago | (#21174747)

It was already known that Dinosaurs were sociable animals. They are still alive in a special place. It is called Congress.

The real question (0, Redundant)

Grandiloquence (1180099) | more than 6 years ago | (#21175125)

The real question is, can they open doors?

Eggs (1)

psychicsword (1036852) | more than 6 years ago | (#21175353)

Be sure not to take them or they will hunt you down.
Even if you hide them in... lets say a camera case [wikipedia.org] .

Screw Beowulf, here's the prior art (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21175539)

What we're imagining is a velociraptor cluster.

You call that a headline? (2, Funny)

LA Thierry (923197) | more than 6 years ago | (#21175759)

Wake me up when there's fossil evidence that Jesus had a pet dinosaur.

Military formation (2, Funny)

Bob-taro (996889) | more than 6 years ago | (#21175781)

"The odds of these tracks being made by different individuals that just happen to be moving in the same direction, without their tracks stepping on one another, are small,"

It goes way beyond that. This proves that they were marching 6 abreast. If some were walking behind the others, the footprints would still have overlapped. The theory of caveman dinosaur cavalry formations has never had any fossil evidence ... until now!

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