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Wal-Mart's Terrible Nintendo Wii Knock-Offs

Zonk posted more than 6 years ago | from the anything-for-a-buck dept.

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MaryAlan writes "Wal-Mart is now selling an electronic LCD game in the kid's section that resembles a Wiimote so closely that even Wal-Mart employees can't tell them apart in a picture. But the games — made by ToyQuest out of L.A. — are complete and utter crap, to the point of being unplayable. Their only redeeming feature is that they look like the Nintendo Wii, which means Wal-Mart is relying on brand confusion to sell any of these things to unsuspecting customers. There is a gallery of photos online, so you can take a look at side-by-side pictures with a true Wiimote, down to the fake speaker on the front. "

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490 comments

What? (1)

stevenvi (779021) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228261)

Where's the article? The entire story appears to be a photo gallery. Not even a blog post of someone ranting over buying crap.

Re:What? (3, Informative)

macshome (818789) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228371)

If you click on the images you will find the text...

Obvious (4, Interesting)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228265)

Hey, Wal-Mart is always looking for the lowest price on items - even to the point of telling manufacturer's to make a cheaper, lower quality, unit. So they found it. Where can they go from here? A picture of a Wii in a box? (Worked on eBay for another gaming console.)

Re:Obvious (4, Interesting)

ILuvRamen (1026668) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228553)

not even just lowest price, some of their decisions just plain evil/stupid. Have you heard the story about the whole meat issue? Ever wonder why Walmart ground beef smells, looks, feels, and tastes like some sort of rotting roadkill compared to respectable grocery stores? It's because as I understood the explanation, they refuse to buy meat from any meat processors that are unionized which leaves absolute crap companies. Don't eat Walmart meat...in fact, don't even shop there. They'll pick up any product if it's cheap and they think it will sell. Soon they're going to have way too many people with the feeling that Walmart sells 100% cheap crap products, which somehow they've been able to somewhat avoid so far.
P.S. I actually know the person who sold just a console box on ebay for retail price of a new unit cuz the bidder didn't read carefully.

Re:Obvious (1, Insightful)

torkus (1133985) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228637)

Ok, I hate walmart as much as anyone.

That said, hating them because they don't deal with unions is utter crap. In fact, I think I've actually found a single thing I can respect them for. Yes, they sell cheap crap. Buying from a union shop just ensures you're buying overpriced cheap crap.

Re:Obvious (0, Flamebait)

God_Retired (44721) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228749)

Says someone showing their absolute ignorance of capitalism in the U.S..

Re:Obvious (4, Insightful)

silverkniveshotmail. (713965) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228771)

Union made products cost more because their workers are treated better and are given benefits that places like wal-mart and target avoid. The price difference between Fred Meyer and a Super Wal-mart aren't worth the actual costs to the workers.

Re:Obvious (4, Interesting)

xrayspx (13127) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228683)

My wife and I pointed out an entire 8' section of the WalMart meat cooler that was at least 10 days out of code, and very brown/green/fuzzy. The employee did nothing about it and went back to what they were doing. I (in my former capacity as a supermarket employee) would have flown over there and scooped it all out, no matter what department I worked in. So would any of my coworkers. I've happily spent less than $1/year at WalMart in the last decade, but I feel that even that is too much.

Caveat emptor (1)

RelaxedTension (914174) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228271)

The subject says it all...

How can you confuse them? (1)

master5o1 (1068594) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228283)

Too easy to distinguish between those example pics.

Re:How can you confuse them? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21228459)

first the typical American is incredibly stupid. This will easily confuse a huge number of people, just like yield signs and roundabouts.

Second the level of education and critical thinking with typical Americans is so low they will not notice details but make decisions based on general shape and color. This causes confusion in all walks of american life. finding the car in a parking lot, picking your own kid out of a lineup. voting for president....

Think of Americans as retarded 3 year old children. now you get the idea how this product will cause mass confusion and for them to be pulled off the store shelves and a public uproar over them.

you think I am kidding?

Re:How can you confuse them? (0, Redundant)

jhylkema (545853) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228543)

Too bad I don't have mod points. Yes, my countrymen are that stupid.

Re:How can you confuse them? (5, Insightful)

reddburn (1109121) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228711)

Far more likely than your utter slam of everyone else in the US (which tells us nothing more than that you think you're better than everyone else) is what the GP said - they're relying on brand confusion and poverty to sell something that looks like a Wii to people who can't afford the real thing and whose kids want a game system. Have you ever been that kid? Ever wondered why Christmas was a big deal in everyone else's house but not yours?

I have, and looking back with a kid of my own, I feel worse for my parents for picking up the knockoff than for myself for getting it. I can't imagine how they felt when they realized it wasn't worth fifty cents and broke the first time I used it. Blame Walmart for targeting desperate parents who want to do something really good for their kids but end up getting cheap crap instead of what they thought they were getting. We can't all be as wonderfully gifted as you, and an eighty hour workweek at a demanding physical job can wreak havoc on a mom who's out doing her last minute shopping.

Think of self-important, critical dickheads like you and realize that while your witty repartee might amuse you for a moment, it doesn't do a goddamn thing to help. Realize that if everyone you meet is "retarded," it may not be them. It may be you.

Re:How can you confuse them? (1)

EtoilePB (1087031) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228767)

First time I've ever wished I still had mod points, and said so. +1 for truth.

I was that kid, too. (Lucky for my parents I loved books best, and at least library sales are more likely to provide something valuable than Wal-Mart crap aisles.)

Re:How can you confuse them? (1)

cheater512 (783349) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228789)

The GP's comment doesnt apply to everyone in the US. Just the majority. :)

Re:How can you confuse them? (1)

MMaestro (585010) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228601)

Its easy to confuse if you're not familiar with the Wiimote, and the fact that we're looking at COMPARISON pictures manes it pretty easy to see the differences.

That said, if you're a clueless soccer mom and a Wal-Mart employee comes up to you and says "we don't have the Wii in stock, but this is just like it", chances are you're gonna buy it cause you can't find an real Nintendo Wii before Christmas.

10 to 15$ for it (1)

wizardforce (1005805) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228285)

In this first image, you can see the toy's tiny LCD screen. It's small, because it's being forced to fit within the proportions of the Wiimote. The screen is almost too small to be useful at all, and is nearly impossible to play. This gets even worse when playing in the "motion" controlled mode, which supposedly lets you control by moving the thing. I wouldn't know, since it's nearly impossible to move the toy and see the tiny screen at the same time.
I would hope that any parent thinking of buying this would use some fairly rudimentary logic to deduce that it is indeed garbage. Given the sheer number of people who shop at walmart, it wouldn't surprise me a bit if many did actually bother to buy this.

The magic of "Something like it." (4, Insightful)

xC0000005 (715810) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228615)

I would imagine that most people who buy this don't honestly think this is a nintendo wii. They think it looks a lot like one, and for kids toys so often that's "enough". The logic is twisted, but if you're a parent who can barely afford the $15 for this toy and your child wants a wii, well, it's a delusion that gets bought into. You can't afford the real thing. You can afford a cheap knock off, and "it's kind of the same thing, right?"

No. It isn't. That doesn't really enter the equasion.

unethical (5, Informative)

rice_burners_suck (243660) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228295)

I think this is a highly unethical business practice which must be stopped. It is somewhat akin to companies in China producing brand-name knock-offs that so closely resemble the original product that they can only be described as counterfeit.

The best thing to do is to take a few minutes of your time and send a short, concise, and polite letter to:

Wal-Mart Stores, Inc.
Attn: Customer Service
702 S.W. 8th Street
Bentonville, AR 72716

Believe me, they will notice your letter and do something about it.

Re:unethical (3, Funny)

JustShootMe (122551) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228315)

How could you think that resembles it so closely as to be regarded as counterfeit?

It's obvious they took design cues from it, but I don't see what people are complaining about.

Re:unethical (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228417)

Counterfeit no, but trust me there are people out there that wouldn't realize it until they got it home. I think technically in order to be a counterfeit it would have to either function in place of a real one or have no other function. Being poorly designed shouldn't be enough.

The whole thing looks like it is meant to be somewhat confusing. I don't think that it looks quite like the wiimote, but it does look like a generic wiimote might. And trust me, from what I read, a generic wiimote would be far more useful than that piece of crud.

I think either way this should represent some sort of infringement as it appears to be using a false connection to the wii as a marketing strategy.

So what!? (5, Insightful)

Lethyos (408045) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228593)

Who cares if some fool is so easily taken by this product. If someone could be so stupid to plunk down their hard-earned cash without understanding what they are paying for in the first place then they should suffer the consequnces. Promoting nannyism to prevent dumb behavior will solve nothing. Idiocy has to hurt or people will never stop being idiots.

Re:So what!? (3, Insightful)

Romancer (19668) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228627)

So am I the first to see this article and think "Wow, darwin for consumers!"
The stupid will have to return this or lose money so they will suffer for their stupidity. Good.

Re:So what!? (1)

JustShootMe (122551) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228665)

Egg-zactly.

There is certainly predatory behavior in consumerland which needs to be stopped. This ain't it.

In my view, if they made it look *exactly* like a wiimote and named it the "xii" or the "nii", then I would say, yeah, we need to do something about that. But as it stands? Let the buyer beware.

Re:So what!? (2, Interesting)

orkysoft (93727) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228751)

This makes me think of those non-poisonous snakes that have the same kind of stripes as a poisonous snake species, so they benefit from the deterrence effect without needing to invest in poison glands themselves.

Re:So what!? (2, Insightful)

zenetik (750376) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228707)

In most cases, I would agree. But considering that Walmart seems to have a very large customer base among the elderly, I think it's fairly certain that some grandparents on Social Security, who don't know a monitor from a mouse, are going to proudly buy one of these as a gift for a grandchild thinking it is that cool game system they saw on TV and learn too late, when they see the look of disappointment on little Johnny's face, that it isn't the real deal.

Re:So what!? (1)

reddburn (1109121) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228745)

So someone who gets a picture cut out of a magazine so that they "know what to get" but don't have time to research it because they're working two jobs and shopping at MaoMart for "great deals" deserves to get shafted? Not everyone works at a job where they've got time to play on the internet.

Re:unethical (1)

squiggleslash (241428) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228429)

I have to agree. I'm looking at the pictures and asking how anyone in their right mind would confuse a Wii-mote with one of these, let alone an entire Wii. They don't look the same, they just use the same styling.

There's no fraud involved, they're taking design cues from a market leader, largely, one assumes, so people see at a glance it's intended to be some kind of gaming device. If this is fraud, then those iFan things that look like iPods are even worse examples, and the CEOs of the companies making them should serve jailtime!

Re:unethical (1)

Yahweh Doesn't Exist (906833) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228677)

>I'm looking at the pictures and asking how anyone in their right mind would confuse a Wii-mote with one of these

are you stupid?

is it really so hard to imagine a parent wanting to buy extra controllers for a Wii, seeing this, and being misled?

the design of this thing is closer to an actual Wii remote than, say, a 3rd party Gamecube controller to a Nintendo Gamecube controller.

the fake speaker on the front is also pretty good reason alone to suspect the product aims to mislead.

Re:unethical (1)

rice_burners_suck (243660) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228443)

If Walmart's own employees are confusing the two, then it's probably too similar.

Re:unethical (2, Interesting)

G Fab (1142219) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228491)

I've got friends who work at Wally world, and I mean no disrespect, but a lot of walmart employees are complete idiots.

And yeah, this is a dinky toy that is meant to knock off a great toy. Kinda sad, but the market will correct. IN fact, it has. For many people, walmart ain't worth the trouble of sandals melting my feet off or lead filled vampire teeth toys. Sure, walmart is doing fine, but only for those who really don't care about reliability. If you don't give a crap about reliability, walmart presents a great bargain for you.

Walmart isn't ruining anything. It's just another lame component of our world. Provides context for all the nice things. It has revolutionized distribution processes and greatly reduced the number of retail ripoffs, and thus has made virtually every american richer. Sounds crazy, but it's true.

Re:unethical (2, Insightful)

chaoticgeek (874438) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228607)

I used to work at a walmart and wow there are some really stupid people there. Most of the people I worked with were complete morons and always had to get help constantly for the same problems over and over. The managers are not much brighter either.

Re:unethical (5, Insightful)

stevenvi (779021) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228337)

Unless the promotional materials (such as the packaging of the toy) refer to it as a device for your Wii, how is selling this unethical? The photo gallery (not article, as there was none) only showed pictures of the toy out of the box. There was no mention of a deceptive box, only a statement that, "hey look, this toy is designed to look like a wiimote. And the toy sucks."

Is it also unethical to sell squirt guns on the basis that they are (or were, anyways) designed to look like guns, except instead of using gun powder to propel bullets, they shoot water? If you look at the box before you buy something, you can save yourself some embarrassment when you have to return it later.

Re:unethical (2)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228489)

A squirt gun is usually quite a bit different from a real gun. Most of them don't try to trade on someone else's brand identity either, I've never seen any that look like any single specific gun such that they look the same at a glance.

It's the use of someone else's brand identity that I think is unethical. I would consider the general WiiMote design to be part of the Wii brand identity.

Re:unethical (2, Informative)

click2005 (921437) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228625)

In North America squirt guns are not allowed to resemble real guns so they cant be used for bank robberies etc. With the shoot first interrogate later mentality of most cops nowadays its probably a good thing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squirt_gun [wikipedia.org]

Re:unethical (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228685)

In North America squirt guns are not allowed to resemble real guns so they cant be used for bank robberies etc. With the shoot first interrogate later mentality of most cops nowadays its probably a good thing.

Not so sure about that - I've seen plenty of squirt guns that have a passing resemblance to the real thing. I do know that my little spring operated pellet gun - which looks rather like a generic 9 mm semi auto pistol - has an orange ring around the muzzle to tip police off to it's benign nature.

Re:unethical (5, Interesting)

Jerf (17166) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228523)

The true, original purpose of trademark law (which I am aware I'm the first to bring up) is to protect the consumer from products that are designed to fool you into believing you are purchasing a product from somebody other than the true source. That is why the touchstone of trademark infringement is "Would a reasonable consumer confuse the two products?"

As usual, you can skirt the line. You can argue about whether it claims to be a Wii, exactly what the box says, exactly what it claims to be, etc. Nevertheless, I'd say the intent here is pretty clearly to pick up sales through deception, with varying degrees of plausible deniability. That they try to stay on the legal side of the line doesn't make it automatically ethical.

They don't give me enough data to come to a conclusion. But it's certainly enough to be suggestive.

Is it also unethical to sell squirt guns on the basis that they are (or were, anyways) designed to look like guns, except instead of using gun powder to propel bullets, they shoot water?
"Guns" are not a protectable item. A closer analogy here, despite my hatred of using analogies in online debates, are the numerous "generic controllers" that you can buy that contain games in them, but are not unauthorized representations of any particular controller. Only a squirt gun that looked like a specific, trademarked gun would be comparable, and yes indeed, the law will require you to get permission. You can't make a model car that looks exactly like a real car without permission, which is why the Grand Theft Auto world is populated by knockoffs. You can't make a model Enterprise without permission from Paramount, but you can make any generic space ship you want. As is invariably the case with analogies used in debates, the difference between the analogy and the real-world situation render your analogy irrelevant.

Re:unethical (1)

ScrewMaster (602015) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228391)

elieve me, they will notice your letter and do something about it.

Hopefully, they wiill notice your letter.

Re:unethical (5, Informative)

aichpvee (631243) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228407)

Three points:

1) This "story" is really OLD. It did the rounds on the Internet MONTHS ago.

2) As stupid as I'm sure a lot of walmart employees are, I have a hard time thinking even many of them would be able to confuse these two items.

3)
a. Either zonk has trouble telling the two apart and thinks this is legitimate "news."
-or-
b. zonk believes that it has already been posted on /. and is posting it again just to make a dupe.

Re:unethical (5, Funny)

feepness (543479) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228431)

1) This "story" is really OLD. It did the rounds on the Internet MONTHS ago.

3)
a. Either zonk has trouble telling the two apart and thinks this is legitimate "news."
-or-
b. zonk believes that it has already been posted on /. and is posting it again just to make a dupe.
Maybe Zonk just has difficulties telling the stories apart?

Re:unethical (1)

The MAZZTer (911996) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228763)

Old? I'm pretty sure it was just posted on either Joystiq or Engadget mere hours ago. Maybe you're thinking of the Vii or something else.

Re:unethical (2, Funny)

Dr. Cody (554864) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228441)

Why do you hate freedom?

Finish your capitalism, young man--every last bite. There are starving entrepreneurs in China...

Re:unethical (2, Informative)

belmolis (702863) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228527)

If the design is sufficiently similar to the Nintendo Wii as to confuse consumers, Nintendo can sue for infringement on its trade dress [wikipedia.org] . Trade dress is similar to trademark, but instead of the words of a brand name or slogan it refers to the non-functional characteristics of a product. In other words, existing law should take care of this problem.

Re:unethical (2, Insightful)

evwah (954864) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228599)

no, they won't.

Re:unethical (1)

ThomasFlip (669988) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228643)

If people are too stupid not to know the difference they deserve to be ripped off. Must we protect the public from every stupid thing they do?

Re:unethical (1)

doyoulikeworms (1094003) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228799)

But chances are, you'll sound crazy in your letter.

They don't look at all alike. (1)

JustShootMe (122551) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228299)

Eh. They don't look alike at all. They share some of the same design elements, but the changes are significant enough that I wouldn't be fooled.

If someone is going to buy this while looking for a wii, they deserve what they get.

Personally, I think they just wanted to make it look like a wii because they thought "the wii is popular and maybe if we look like a wii we'll look popular too". Not "wow, if we make something that looks like a wii maybe we'll sell some by mistake".

Though I'm sure they consider that a bonus. No way do I think they're *completely* innocent.

Re:They don't look at all alike. (3, Insightful)

TheGoodSteven (1178459) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228385)

I don't think that are really trying to fool video game players though. I think they are trying to target the parents that have no knowledge about video games aside from seeing a Wii a few times and know that they are popular. I am such a person, and aside from the "Wii" on the bottom of the real controller, would be unable to tell which one was the knockoff. Certainly if someone threw one of the knock offs in my hand, my first thought would be that it was a Wii controller without thinking twice about it. And with Walmart selling these, you only have to fool a small percentage of your customers to sell a whole ton of these things.

Re:They don't look at all alike. (1)

JustShootMe (122551) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228395)

But I'd point out that even on the pictures, it says "football" in big letters on the bottom.

Caveat Emptor - even for people who buy at Wal-mart.

Re:They don't look at all alike. (1)

linal (1116371) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228475)

My parents have played on a wii but if i were to show them these pics they wouldn't know the difference, i fail to to the point your trying to make? They are clearly trying to make them look like the wii controller to cash in on the brand, how many MP3 players have you seen that are in the same style as the ipod?

Re:They don't look at all alike. (1)

TheGoodSteven (1178459) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228477)

Thanks for pointing that out; I didn't even notice that. I change my earlier statement, they are trying to target the grandparents that have no knowledge about video games and poor eyesight.

Re:They don't look at all alike. (5, Interesting)

Ephemeriis (315124) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228435)

They don't look alike at all.

Yes, they do. It's not just superficial... It's fairly obvious that the knock-off was intentionally designed to look like a Wii-mote.

the changes are significant enough that I wouldn't be fooled.

You aren't the target here.

I used to work at Electronics Boutique over the holidays, and I can guarantee that there are plenty of parents out there who would purchase this thing without a moment's hesitation - believing the whole time that they were purchasing a Wii-mote, or even the entire Wii system.

Parents used to show up with the most vague descriptions of what their child wanted... Or pictures clipped from catalogs, sales fliers, and magazines... Folks wouldn't know whether they needed a game for the PS2, Xbox, Game Cube, or computer. All they knew is that their kid said this, or it looked like that, or it had some guy with wings in it.

We had plenty of returns after Christmas because of this confusion. Folks who bought the game for entirely the wrong system...or the wrong kind of memory card...or bought some part of the system instead of the whole thing... And that was all without overly deceiving advertising or product design like this thing.

Re:They don't look at all alike. (4, Funny)

RobertM1968 (951074) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228515)

Mod Parent "+1 Intelligent" (and then ban him from SlashDot!!!) ;-)

Re:They don't look at all alike. (1)

Orange Crush (934731) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228569)

And those returns cost the retailer money--the product was taking up shelf space, the customer went through checkout, the store got charged the transaction fee if they used a credit card . . . and now it's being returned because it wasn't what the customer thought they were buying.

I think the real party at fault here is Wal-Mart. Sure someone made a crappy game device deliberately modeled after the Wiimote. Big deal. Wal-Mart decided to carry this piece of crap so it's taking up space on shelves, causing clueless customers to come back and return it and yell at customer service staff, etc. when they could be helping other customers purchase other cheap plastic crap that won't be returned. It's a waste of Wal-Mart's money. And that's the one thing Wal-Mart *hates* wasting.

Re:They don't look at all alike. (1)

Khaed (544779) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228723)

It's a waste of Wal-Mart's money. And that's the one thing Wal-Mart *hates* wasting.

yep. I know someone who works there (she's a college student). They'll side with the customer IF the employee is at fault, make employees apologize even to the shittiest customers, and if a customer does something to an employee, they try and talk the employee out of doing anything. Case in point, a crazy woman randomly threw some meat at the person working in their deli, and Walmart talked the employee out of filing any sort of charges (it was a significant amount of meat and nearly hit her in the head).

but if a customer gets hurt in the store, they'll go to great lengths to avoid having to pay anything. And this is something they've gotten very good at. anyone who has ever been to a Walmart has seen the army of little shits who run around, push buggies fast, etc, just begging to get hurt or hurt someone else. They'll go back and review security tape, etc, to try and get out of being responsible for it. Not that I blame them when it comes to customer stupidity.

Re:They don't look at all alike. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21228741)

I think the real party at fault here is Wal-Mart.

holy shit, welcome to 20 minutes ago. that's what this whole damn discussion is about you fool

Re:They don't look at all alike. (1)

G Fab (1142219) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228517)

I would think this was a wiimote if I saw it in a store without labelling. It's clearly supposed to look like a wiimote. I even bet that it IS a third party wiimote, just that the company couldn't get licensing or good tech or something, and retools to make this crap.

I mean, come on man. The button placement, the fake speaker, the color and shape, etc. It's a motion control game thingy. Like I said, I can tell this isn't nintendo's wiimote, but it could easily be logitech's or madcatz's. No doubt at all this is what even a nintendo employee would think at first glance.

Re:They don't look at all alike. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21228689)

Eh. They don't look alike at all.
S: (adj) alike, similar, like (having the same or similar characteristics)

Saw those...took me two seconds to no the differen (-1, Redundant)

PortHaven (242123) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228311)

Saw those...took me two seconds to no the difference.

First off, they were in the same section as the little joystick low-end games. Second anyone thinking they can get a Wii remote for that cheap.

Now, what I was curious about is if any of the components could be converted into a Wii remote?

Re:Saw those...took me two seconds to no the diffe (1)

Salgat (1098063) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228329)

When you're some parent who has no idea what a Wii is and vaguely remembers what the controller looked like, the possibility of grabbing this without second thought isn't surprising.

Re:Saw those...took me two seconds to no the diffe (1)

ottolinkfan (970689) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228377)

When you're some parent who has no idea what a Wii is and vaguely remembers what the controller looked like, the possibility of grabbing this without second thought isn't surprising.


I am not a parent, but if/when I am, I can't imagine I would ever buy a product for my kid without knowing what it was. Seems pretty irresponsible to me. Besides, one of them clearly says "Wii" on the remote and the other does not.

Re:Saw those...took me two seconds to no the diffe (1)

Adradis (1160201) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228721)

Yes, but your smarter then the average Joe, I'd guess. Lot of parents have no clue what anything looks like, other then the vague description. Remember, this is the TV/Videogame/Myspace generation of kids, with a lot less parental involvement then should be there. D:

Re:Saw those...took me two seconds to no the diffe (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21228797)

/** Yes, but you're smarter then the average Joe, I'd guess. Lot of parents have no clue what anything looks like, other than the vague description. Remember, this is the TV/Videogame/Myspace generation of kids, with a lot less parental involvement than should be there. D: *//

I'm sorry that I don't have time to correct your grammar as well.

Re:Saw those...took me two seconds to no the diffe (1)

Dunbal (464142) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228437)

Not only that - the idea is to shut your kid up. If you can do it for $14.99 and the kid thinks he got a Wii, all the better.

Re:Saw those...took me two seconds to no the diffe (1)

FataL187 (1100851) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228451)

I saw them at walmort over a month ago. The only thing I find very deceptive is the 3 walmart's I have now seen them in, is that they are actually in the video game section, mixed in with the Wii accessories.

I knew instantly it was a scam, however parents and grand parents that will be buying gifts this christmas season will easily be duped. The package coloring is also very similar to the Wii color scheme. The only reason for that is to mislead and trick someone into purchasing something other then what they think they are.

Honestly, I think that this type of obvious attempt at tricking a consumer into buying something should be regulated..

-FataL

Re:Saw those...took me two seconds to no the diffe (1)

FataL187 (1100851) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228497)

BTW for those that dont know walmort is a knock off of walmart. Or a obvious sign that I don't proof read my posts prior to hitting submit.

-FataL

Shit, calm down (5, Funny)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228323)

They've been making little LCD toys that looked like console controllers since the Atari 2600.

They make lighters that look like pistols and male masturbators that look like flashlights. If you dont want to be "taken", read the package first.

Slow news day? Is this the best you can do to muster nerd rage?

Re:Shit, calm down (1)

RobFlynn (127703) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228631)

You just said pretty much what I wanted to say. There's also this policy that Wal-Mart has that lets you return items that you have purchased. I think you even have 90 days to do so. If it takes you more than 90 days to realize that you bought something that's not a Wii-mote then you definitely have other problems.

As far as the design of the product, yes, it is definitely designed to look like one -- but I have to agree with the people above about packaging. Does it say "Wee mote" on it or something?

Re:Shit, calm down (1)

Khaed (544779) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228649)

And you can almost always return an item, even if you've opened it and used it.

Food is a clear exception, probably DVDs/CDs (never tried), but "crappy controller thing"? I imagine you can take it back.

Personally, if you're confused by this thing and you've actually ever even seen a Wiimote, I want you sterilized before you breed.

Re:Shit, calm down (1)

Scudsucker (17617) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228701)

You just said pretty much what I wanted to say. There's also this policy that Wal-Mart has that lets you return items that you have purchased. I think you even have 90 days to do so. If it takes you more than 90 days to realize that you bought something that's not a Wii-mote then you definitely have other problems.

Do they also compensate you for your wasted time and wasted gas money because they deliberately sold a crappy handheld that deliberately tries to look like a controller for a different system?

Re:Shit, calm down (1)

RobFlynn (127703) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228787)

Nope, which is a huge frustration of mine.

Actually, I guess I was being a bit too nice to Wal-Mart in my post.

I had to return something to them tonight. I went to customer service, told them I needed to return the item, and handed them the receipt. The following conversation took place:

Girl: Did they not put a sticker on this at the door?
Me: No.
Girl: Well, you need to make sure they do that next time.
Me: No one told me that. And besides, when I came in there was no one at the door. It is not MY responsibility to make sure that the employees of this company do their job. It is the company's responsibility.
Girl: You're right... *processes refund*

It just seems ridiculous to me that I'm expected to know to get some kind of something from a magical return fairy before I go to the customer service desk (or were they supposed to put something on it when I actually purchased the item?)

Typical Walmart sales (1)

GregPK (991973) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228325)

Seriously, this is very typical of Walmart. What do you expect from a company who's own employees get in the way more than the customers.

Non Story (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21228349)

This is a self-contained LCD game, and Wal-Mart has a whole aisle of cheap games like this. It's not with the video games but rather in the toy section with the board games and dolls. Someone in China decided the Wiimote look would distinguish it from the other LCD crap. It's like the Famiclones that look like other popular consoles. If you buy a cheap LCD game and somehow think you've bought a Wii, then you probably needed to do a little more research before leaving the house.

Not just walmart.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21228375)

Recently I noticed these devices at a Target store here in the Dallas, TX area. I find it amazing what these mega stores will do to earn a buck.

Imitation (1)

MECC (8478) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228387)

Imitation is the sincerest form of ripp off.

It looks like a great product... (4, Funny)

distantbody (852269) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228389)

...although I think my next game system will be a Mini Polystation 3 [gizmodo.com] . Thanks Dr Ashen!!! [youtube.com]

Knock-Offs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21228405)

In South Korea, only old people are not in charge of Gundam.

And your point is....? (2, Funny)

wickerprints (1094741) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228415)

"Wal-Mart is now selling an electronic LCD game in the kid's section that resembles a Wiimote so closely that even Wal-Mart employees can't tell them apart in a picture.
You know, given the intelligence level of your average Wal-Mart employee, that latter statement isn't really saying a whole lot. Then again, much the same could be said of your average Wal-Mart consumer. A fool and his money are soon parted.

Re:And your point is....? (1)

Asky314159 (1114009) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228495)

Seriously. One says "Wii" on the front and the other one doesn't. One has an LCD screen on it and the other doesn't. Duh.

Heh.. (1)

Duncan Blackthorne (1095849) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228425)

I forsee a possible Cease and Desist Letter in Wal-Mart's future. ;) What a bunch of asshats!

Non-sequitur headline (1)

Just Some Guy (3352) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228445)

Wal-Mart is now selling an electronic LCD game in the kid's section that resembles a Wiimote so closely that even Wal-Mart employees can't tell them apart in a picture.

I also saw poorly made jeans at ShopKo, and one time I bought shampoo from Wegmans that smelled just like a famous name brand but wasn't. So what? It's not like either of those chains made those goods.

What did Wal-Mart have to do with the story other than carrying that product among tens of thousands of others? Would we be reading "Costco's Terrible Wii Knock-Offs" if the author had shopped somewhere else that day? There are lots of reasons [honeypot.net] why people don't like shopping at Wal-Mart [honeypot.net] , but this is a pretty dumb one.

no sympathy... it's wal-mart after all (2, Insightful)

eagl (86459) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228447)

Come on... This is wal-mart we're talking about. Who goes to wal-mart to buy *good* stuff? wal-mart is all about large quantities of cheap stuff, end of story. It's a great place to buy cheap or bulk items... I shop there all the time for generic food items and anything disposable that I need in bulk (kleenex, cleaning supplies, etc). If you want to find something really good at wal-mart, you MUST look for the exact name brand and even then you have to carefully check model numbers to make sure you're not getting a cheaper wal-mart only version. You know, the wal-mart equivalent of those crappy dell soundblasters that don't work with anything but dell drivers and which had ultra-cheap and noisy components. I had a drill like that... My Dad had one from Sears and it had a metal body, durable rubberized, grips, etc. The same drill from wal-mart (same model number but with an "a" on the end) had a plastic body and the grip cracked within a week.

The point is, if you're going into wal-mart expecting to get high quality anything, you're either an optimist or a retard and deserve to get what you find there.

Re:no sympathy... it's wal-mart after all (1)

lazuli42 (219080) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228673)

That's right. Wal*Mart has nothing to offer but shit. In fact, I bought my Genuine Nintendo Wii there and it was absolute junk compared to the one my friend bought at GameStop. And the games my neighbor bought were more fun--even his copy of Zelda was more fun than mine. Dang Wal*Mart.

It is called 'passing off'... (1)

Undead Ed (1068120) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228453)

And it is going to land Wal-Mart and ToyQuest in court.

In view of the fact that the device is of such poor quality almost ensures Nintendo will be able to get an interlocutory injunction within days.

Wal-Mart really should know better - I am surprised.

Ed

I wasn't confused at all. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21228463)

Who is? Does the package deceptively look like Nintendo and is the game sold directly next to Wiimotes? I was at Walmart recently and did not see these in the Nintendo section. Eh, fool a child or someone who is completely unfamiliar with Wii.

Grandma... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21228467)

Can you buy me a Wii-mote, please? Here's a picture!

-Intermission-

What the fuck Grandma?! This is shit, I'm never calling you again.

Walmart: At least their hiring the gullible yet unloved elderly.

This is piratism (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21228493)

The MAFIAA goons should go after walmart.

walmart employees (2, Insightful)

pavera (320634) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228505)

Well, just because walmart employees can't tell them apart doesn't mean your average 6 year old can't.

Personally, I have no problem telling them apart and I've only seen a Wii once for about 5 minutes...

Sure this is probably a violation of some intellectual property law or other... but aren't we always complaining about those laws and how stupid and unnecessarily restrictive they are? We defended Lindows and said "you'd have to be an idiot to confuse Lindows with Windows". Personally I'm from the camp of idiocy gets what it deserves. If you're too dumb or ignorant to tell these 2 devices apart, then you deserve to have your money taken. I know my 8 year old brother wouldn't be fooled by the knock off, so why should anyone? Or are we all willing to say that the average adult is dumber than an average 8 year old? And, if that is what we're saying HOW IS THAT OK OR ACCEPTABLE?!?

I can assure you (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21228535)

that nobody cares. Not at WalMart, not at Nintendo.

Foreign imports (5, Insightful)

fmarkham (1091529) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228577)

Damn those cheap foreign knock-offs of quality American designs! Oh wait...

More Spin... (4, Insightful)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228641)

Yea it gets you points to bash Walmart on Slashdot.
So why is everybody posting how bad Walmart is for selling this.
ToyQuest out of L.A is the manufacture. So where is the venom for them? Is this a Walmart exclusive? Has anyone checked to see if Sears, Target or those stupid little carts in the middle of every mall is selling them?
I am not a huge Walmart fan but this is so slanted that it is just silly.
Sorry folks it looks sort of like a Wiimote and costs all of $10. I don't think this is anymore of a ripe off than the toy cellphones that look like a Razer.
Good grief.

Oh, sweet! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21228645)

Now that Wal-Mart is selling bizzare crap like this, I no longer have to search the Flea Market!

How does this even work? (1)

ironring2006 (968941) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228687)

Ok, forget the legal aspects of this being an obvious rip-off of the Wiimote. I'm still trying to wrap my head around how anyone would use the motion function on this thing when the screen is ON what you are moving. I mean seriously, it would be like having to pick up your laptop up off your desk and lift it up and to the left if you wanted to move your mouse to the file menu. Not only is your pointer moving on the screen, but your whole point of reference is also moving. It's easy to focus on a tv or computer screen because it is STATIONARY. Say you have to tilt it forward to move the pointer up. Well, now your screen is tilted away from you and you can't see it. I mean, when they come up with these cheap knock-off toys, do they just go straight from some marketing guys head straight into production? Surely someone out there would at least try to use it once and realize how stupid this is. I guess the idea is, is that it doesn't actually have to be functional to sell, it just has to look like a Wiimote, yeah, make it white with a d-pad on it and you can hold it in your hand. Brilliant.

Knock-offs? (1)

Trogre (513942) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228739)

...are complete and utter crap, to the point of being unplayable. ...fake speaker on the front.

Sounds like they really did do their homework.

Cheaper = Better ? (1)

ohgood (1144715) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228753)

As usual, people shopping WalMart are doing it for only one reason. They are cheap. Welcome to the endless cycle of cheap junk.

mo3 do3n (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21228769)

That have r4ged propaganda and

*you* can tell, but can everyone? (1)

SailorSpork (1080153) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228781)

There have been a lot of posts from people saying that they can tell the difference, and that if you can't, you're an idiot and get what you deserve. I just wanted to clarify that trademark confusion isn't necessarily to protect slashdotters (who I would consider more savvy); its for your average person on the street. You're asking "why should that matter, only people who know what they're doing would buy a Wiimote, right?"

Well, yes and no. The problem will come around Christmas when parents and grandparents, who have seen their kids playing "that newfangled white wand-y game," try to go Christmas shopping. A certain percentage of them will wander through the toy department, notice this, and because of the similarity will think that this is what they were playing with and buy one. The horrified victim/gift recipient will have to act grateful, play with it for 5 minutes, throw it in a box and never play with it again (or if they have the cajones, ask for a gift receipt). A certain percentage of the gift givers that bought it would have found the real thing eventually and bought it, so in a real (if rather small) way it will have stolen sales from Nintendo through imitation and market confusion.

On the other hand, while Nintendo would have some legal recourse to sue, it is a borderline case. If there is no mention of the Wii and if the wording is dissimilar enough to convince a judge that it could stand on its own, it might not be worth Nintendos time and lawyaring dollars to pursue it, especially since the segment of gift buyers that might fall for it would be under 25% of potential Wiimote buyers.

Yawn. (1)

n6kuy (172098) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228783)

Even if you're confused by the similar appearance, the $2.98 price should clue you in that this is NOT a Wii...

"Nobody ever went broke... (1)

jpellino (202698) | more than 6 years ago | (#21228793)

... underestimating the intelligence of the American buying public." is as true here as ever.

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