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MLB Fans Who Bought DRM Videos Get Hosed

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 6 years ago | from the digital-restrictions-management dept.

Media 299

Billosaur writes "Major League Baseball has just strengthened the case against DRM. If you downloaded videos of baseball games from MLB.com before 2006, apparently they no longer work and you are out of luck. MLB.com, sometime during 2006, changed their DRM system. Result: game videos purchased before that time will now no longer work, as the previous DRM system is no longer supported. When the video is played, apparently the MLB.com servers are contacted and a license obtained to verify the authenticity of the video; this is done by a web link. That link no longer exists, and so now the videos will no longer play, even though the MLB FAQ says that a license is only obtained once and will not need to be re-obtained. The blogger who is reporting this contacted MLB technical support, only to be told there are no refunds due to this problem."

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No support? Hear from my lawyer. (4, Insightful)

Volante3192 (953645) | more than 6 years ago | (#21272731)

The blogger who is reporting this contacted MLB technical support, only to be told there are no refunds due to this problem

I smell a class action coming along..

Re:No support? Hear from my lawyer. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21272771)

You need at least two people to initiate it.

Re:No support? Hear from my lawyer. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21272797)

Noo... that's not how it works.

I smell MLB.com launching a defamation suit against the blogger.

EULA? (5, Insightful)

finnw (415539) | more than 6 years ago | (#21272857)

Depends whether anyone saved a copy of the EULA they signed when they downloaded the videos.
If it favours MLB they'll find a copy. But if it doesn't, it would be quite easy for them to say "We've lost all copies of that EULA but our policy back then was to put in a 1-year time limit" and given the small numbers involved, probably no-one will be able to prove otherwise. I think I'll get in the habit of saving a copy before clicking on "I Agree" from now on.

Re:EULA? (2, Informative)

LiquidCoooled (634315) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273303)

Their EULA is horrible and long [mlb.com].
Its also buried away in a tiny text frame and opens up to a novel size.

however there is one gem which made me smile:

2. Message Features

          Participation. The Website may offer opportunities for you to transmit messages in connection with various features including, but not limited to, vanity email, auctions, contests, games, blogs, video submissions message boards and chat features ("Message Features"). You must use Message Features in a responsible manner, and are solely responsible for any content you transmit. You must not transmit any message ("Message") in connection with any Message Feature that: (i) imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the Website's infrastructure, or otherwise adversely affects, restricts or inhibits any other user from using and enjoying the Website; (ii) is threatening, abusive, libelous, defamatory, obscene, vulgar, offensive, pornographic, profane, sexually explicit or indecent; (iii) constitutes or encourages conduct that would constitute a criminal offense, give rise to civil liability or otherwise violate any local, state, national or international law; (iv) violates, plagiarizes or infringes the rights of third parties including, without limitation, copyright, trademark, patent, rights of privacy or publicity or any other proprietary right; (v) contains a virus, trojan horse, worm, time bomb, cancelbot or other similar harmful or deleterious programming routine; (vi) contains any information, software or other material of a commercial nature; (vii) contains advertising, promotions or commercial solicitations of any kind; (viii) constitutes or contains false or misleading indications of origin or statements of fact; or (ix) contains material irrelevant to the subject matter of the Message Feature. In order to participate in any Message Feature, you may be asked to register by providing certain personal information such as your name and/or email address. (The Website's Privacy Policy explains how such information may be collected and used.) You may also be asked to select a screen name ("Screen Name") for identification purposes. You must not use any Screen Name that violates any term of subsections (i)-(ix) above, or any other operating term set forth by MLBAM.

Call 866-800-1275 and be a PITA (4, Informative)

whackco (599646) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273339)

Call 866-800-1275 just to be a pain in the ass. I don't even watch baseball, but I called it to protest their treatment of customers. The guy was nice to me, and admitted they have a big problem, they will try to fix.

Too bad it won't affect many... (-1, Flamebait)

787style (816008) | more than 6 years ago | (#21272739)

Unfortunately, this probably only affects about 20 people. Not trolling, but a fact.

Re:Too bad it won't affect many... (2, Insightful)

fredrated (639554) | more than 6 years ago | (#21272763)

How can you classify speculation as a fact?

Re:Too bad it won't affect many... (4, Funny)

rootofevil (188401) | more than 6 years ago | (#21272833)

duh, this is slashdot. wild speculation of those that clothe themselves in tinfoil is taken as the gospel truth, no questions asked.

Re:Too bad it won't affect many... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21273021)

It's easy. That's a fact.

Re:Too bad it won't affect many... (2, Funny)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273169)

He said "fact", can't you read? This is the internet, when someone says "fact" it has to be.

For reference, see "obviously".

Re:Too bad it won't affect many... (2, Funny)

freshmayka (1043432) | more than 6 years ago | (#21272847)

Yeah BUT...

If it was 20 CHILDREN then my god something must be done! WHAT about the children?!?!

Re:Too bad it won't affect many... (4, Interesting)

Alzheimers (467217) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273143)

Apparently, according to this study, [philanthropy.com] not as much as if it were just ONE child:

In another study, Paul Slovic, a psychology professor at the University of Oregon, found that people were more sympathetic to a single starving child than they were to two children facing the same plight.

"We cannot wrap our minds around two people as well as around one," said Mr. Slovic.

Re:Too bad it won't affect many... (1)

wattrlz (1162603) | more than 6 years ago | (#21272981)

More of a hypothesis, really. How many people who knew about such a thing would pay money to download a baseball game?

Re:Too bad it won't affect many... (1)

superbus1929 (1069292) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273369)

If that's so, I'm one of those 20. Granted, it was only two games (total cost: just under $8 USD), but it shows the system is fucked beyond reproach.

Translation? (5, Insightful)

phalse phace (454635) | more than 6 years ago | (#21272743)

"....there are no refunds due to this problem.""

It's your problem, not ours.

Re:Translation? (3, Insightful)

sm62704 (957197) | more than 6 years ago | (#21272831)

-1, troll? Who gave major league baseball owners slashdot mod points? The parent is correct, albeit sarcastically (and I'd have been sarcastic too). It's not a problem to the MLB, they already GOT your money, sucker!

Now mod me troll too.

-mcgrew [kuro5hin.org]

Re:Translation? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21273217)

If the product is defective by design, and you buy it, and it turns out to be defective, the product is working as intended. I don't see what the problem is.

Re:Translation? (5, Insightful)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273323)

There may yet be a chance to settle it.

If you can dig up the credit card bills, you might still be able to do a charge-back. I know it's kind of pushing it, but my mom does the CC transactions for the family business, and she says that in some cases, there is time limit for a charge-back. It's really brutal for the merchant though, $15 fees per transaction on top of losing the money. Normally, I'd say doing a chargeback two years after the purchase is pretty dickish, this situation is ridiculous. I'd check your card's policies first, but once you know for sure, I suggest that you take it up with the customer service and threaten to do a charge-back before going through the procedure.

Re:Translation? (5, Insightful)

Intron (870560) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273397)

Seems reasonable. You got to use the video for two years. They got to use your money for two years. They take the video back, you take your money back. Fair is fair.

Yea that's a shame... (5, Funny)

Wolvie MkM (661535) | more than 6 years ago | (#21272745)

Excuse me while I enjoy my NHL feed on YouTube :)

Re:Yea that's a shame... (5, Insightful)

sm62704 (957197) | more than 6 years ago | (#21272935)

Excuse me while I enjoy my MLB feed on Morpheus. Oh wait, I forgot - I stopped watching baseball the year they cancelled the world series.

My point, thoough, is that the only ones with functioning videos got them illegally.

-mcgrew [kuro5hin.org]

Re:Yea that's a shame... (5, Insightful)

Bert64 (520050) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273071)

In any case, those people who obtained pirate copies often have a superior experience to legit buyers. All this does is encourage more piracy.

Re:Yea that's a shame... (1)

Wolvie MkM (661535) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273093)

Hence why I'm proud that one of the few things that the NHL has done recently is to not limit their fans to some locked in DRM'd platform.

Granted the NHL is desperate for viewers outside of Canada and the NE of the United States, but baseball is hardly pulling down serious money out side of it's top 5 markets.

The MLB has done a fantastic job this year of screwing their loyal fans out of their money.

Re:Yea that's a shame... (1)

Jherek Carnelian (831679) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273161)

Excuse me while I enjoy my MLB feed on Morpheus.
Oh wait, I forgot - I stopped watching baseball the year they cancelled the world series.
In hyper-capitalist america, MLB cancels you!

A Slow Death (4, Insightful)

JBMcB (73720) | more than 6 years ago | (#21272749)

I don't think DRM is going to go away until a lot more people get burned by it in this way. Most people don't understand or care, once something like this rears up and bites them in the ass, the outrage machine will start. Thank you, MLB, for being the obnoxious, monopoly-driven organization we've all come to love to hate.

Re:A Slow Death (5, Insightful)

Dachannien (617929) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273127)

Digital TV and the assault on the VCR/DVR is going to be the telling moment in the fight against DRM. Everybody's got a TV, and just about everyone has either set their VCR or DVR to record a show or movie for them or gotten their nine-year-old child to do it for them. When the media companies finally get their way and Joe and Jane Sixpack can no longer freely re-watch "It's a Wonderful Life" to their heart's desire every holiday season, there will be outrage. Of course, by that time, the technology will be so entrenched that it will be next to impossible to remove it.

Re:A Slow Death (4, Informative)

HTH NE1 (675604) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273291)

Digital TV and the assault on the VCR/DVR is going to be the telling moment in the fight against DRM.
A day doesn't go by when my Series3 TiVo doesn't tell me some HD programming it recorded is not authorized for display over an HDMI connection. (WTF?! Component I could understand, but why the hell would it prevent playing over HDMI?) So far I've managed to get around it by one or more of going back to Now Playing and selecting the recording again, turning the HDTV off and back on, or turning the HDMI switchbox between them off and back on.

Re:A Slow Death (5, Funny)

mike260 (224212) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273379)

When the media companies finally get their way and Joe and Jane Sixpack can no longer freely re-watch "It's a Wonderful Life" to their heart's desire every holiday season, there will be outrage.
Angry mob: "Hey! Where are those digital rights we gave you to manage? We want them back!"
Jimmy Stewart: "Well I don't have your rights here, they're in Bill's house, and in Steve's house..."

One more reason... (5, Funny)

capt.Hij (318203) | more than 6 years ago | (#21272751)

This is one more reason not to pay money to watch grown men sweat a lot and scratch themselves. A few more of things like this and I am going to just give it up completely.

Re:One more reason... (5, Insightful)

phalse phace (454635) | more than 6 years ago | (#21272927)

Correction. This is another reason why you shouldn't pay money for DRM'ed content.

Re:One more reason... (0, Troll)

heinousjay (683506) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273059)

You shouldn't pay money for anything. I have all these VHS tapes and no working player. Do they expect me to go buy another VCR? Screw them, they should give me the HD-DVDs for free. That's why I pirate. I deserve to be entertained.

Re:One more reason... (1)

gclef (96311) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273227)

Yeah, 'cause watching grown men sweat a lot and scratch themselves for *free* is so much better...

Re:One more reason... (1)

thegrassyknowl (762218) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273479)

Correction. This is another reason why you shouldn't pay money for DRM'ed content.

I have always been wary of things with DRM including iTunes. I have purchased a couple of tracks from iTunes but I immediately convert them to unencumbered MP3s so that I don't risk losing the music if iTunes one day decides that I shouldn't be able to play it any more. At least iTunes allows me to do that still. Sure you lose a bit of quality, but while ever you can play the original files it's good. It's only when you can't play the encrypted files that you need to revert to the MP3s. I won't be buying any more tracks from there though.

I would hazard a guess that a similar thing could have been done with the MLB videos (probably not legally), but people were either complacent or just not aware of the problems DRM could cause them.

Re:One more reason... (1)

Stanislav_J (947290) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273009)

This is one more reason not to pay money to watch grown men sweat a lot and scratch themselves.

Hell, I agree. There are plenty of neighborhoods around here where I can see that for free all day long...

Re:One more reason... (1)

edwardpickman (965122) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273203)

This is one more reason not to pay money to watch grown men sweat a lot and scratch themselves

That IS a sport in some countries. Ever watch Sumo wrestling?

Re:One more reason... (1)

lelitsch (31136) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273433)

This is one more reason not to pay money to watch grown men sweat a lot and scratch themselves.
Oh puh-leeeze. Have you ever seen a baseball player sweat on the field, rather than in front of a grand jury?

Well... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21272753)

First Comment

hmmm. (4, Funny)

apodyopsis (1048476) | more than 6 years ago | (#21272757)

In a highly litigious culture, about a sport which borders on an obsession, about access perceived as a right...?

I predict the big winners in this one will be the lawyers....

Re:hmmm. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21272829)

What a moronic statement. He paid for the content. Access is his right by contract. Nimrod.

Re:hmmm. (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 6 years ago | (#21272885)

I think that what he's getting at is that rather than MLB just providing new copies, they'll probably end up going to court. The lawyers will get the thing certified as a class action suit, then take 40% of whatever the award is.

Leaving the people that were hurt with perhaps a credit, or a fraction of what they were screwed of. And probably several new ulcers to boot.

Re:hmmm. (3, Interesting)

mentaldelusions (1165295) | more than 6 years ago | (#21272851)

I love how lawyers make money off the screw ups in our society... i guess you could judge how damaged a culture was by saying it was proportional to the average salary of a lawyer

Re:hmmm. (4, Insightful)

iocat (572367) | more than 6 years ago | (#21272853)

Access which you purchase with the proviso that it will always be there IS a right. It's fine to make fun of baseball, fans, and our culture, but if someone sold you a book, and told you you'd always be able to read it, and then two years later you couldn't -- well, to it bluntly, that's fucked. MLB needs to provide the access, or refund the money. It wasn't a time-limited purchase, and MLB is on the hook for this.

Re:hmmm. (1)

UbuntuDupe (970646) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273075)

I'm willing to bet that somewhere in the user agreement, there's a provision that lets them do exactly this, and abusive hard-to-read* EULAs that no one really expects people will read, are just as much the problem.

*I'm not just talking about the legalese, but how such screens are inevitably different from reading text in the rest of the product, and how it's hard to scroll through or search through, and there's no standard EULA that it can stipulate a deviation from.

Re:hmmm. (2, Insightful)

RattFink (93631) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273415)

I'm willing to bet that somewhere in the user agreement, there's a provision that lets them do exactly this, and abusive hard-to-read* EULAs that no one really expects people will read, are just as much the problem.

I am no lawyer but selling someone something and delivering something entirely different is fraud. When you start marketing the videos in the same manner as you do DVDs it's not unreasonable for the customer to expect the same lifespan of the product. I just don't see however much wrangling is done in the EULA could overcome that expectation in the sale.

Re:hmmm. (1)

fredrated (639554) | more than 6 years ago | (#21272877)

I think the right demanded is the ability to use what you paid for.

As for the lawyers, they always win, no matter what.
(With the possible exception of Pakistan, where right now they are being clubbed)

I wish I had that kind of time (4, Funny)

Schlemphfer (556732) | more than 6 years ago | (#21272801)

DRM sucks, and inevitiably produces unfair situations like this, where legitimate licencees get screwed. But having said that, what kind of person has so much time on their hands that they would ever want to watch a baseball game from previous seasons? And I thought posting to Slashdot was a time waste ;)

Re:I wish I had that kind of time (1)

griffjon (14945) | more than 6 years ago | (#21272961)

I knew a guy who'd watch a season of Celtics basketball over and over and over again; they exist.

I for one welcome our.. er, am happy that the true stupidity of DRM is biting more consumers. remember DIVX (the circuitcity one?) Anything that reminds consumers that they're getting screwed, even if they may not immediately realize it, is a good thing for raising anti-drm awareness. People who played nice with the monopolies and paid for their DRMed content are now SOL, while people who downloaded pirate versions can watch them whenever, wherever, and on whichever device they choose. Hm.

Re:I wish I had that kind of time (4, Insightful)

Bert64 (520050) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273005)

People who *play* any given sport will often watch old games. If your coaching someone in a sport, showing the players your coaching an old game is a very good way to show and explain examples.

Re:I wish I had that kind of time (1, Troll)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273117)

> ...what kind of person has so much time on their hands that they would ever want to watch
> a baseball game from previous seasons?

What kind of person has so much time on their hands that they would ever want to watch a major-league baseball game, full stop?

Re:I wish I had that kind of time (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21273361)

let me guess, the big, mean jocks beat you up in high school?

Re: Baseball Videos (1)

TaoPhoenix (980487) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273465)

You mean they don't speed the video up 170% first?
Oh right, that's only on YouTube.

This is why I run the page in the background and refresh every half hour.
"Look. An inning went by."

The Captcha is "bloody". Go Schilling!

Doesn't matter how many (2, Interesting)

pinguwin (807635) | more than 6 years ago | (#21272807)

Not the point how many people are affected. The point is that they can take it away from you when they feel like and say, "Suck it". What are you going to do? File a class action lawsuit where the lawyers actually make some cash and you get coupons for 20% expired peanuts at your local teams next away game.

Re:Doesn't matter how many (1)

sholden (12227) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273025)

Filing in small claims yourself would seem better. Seems a pretty clear cut case, though reading whatever the original license was would best done first...

Whoa now... (5, Funny)

Chairboy (88841) | more than 6 years ago | (#21272813)

I'm pretty sure we're not allowed to talk about this without the express written consent of Major League Baseball.

Re:Whoa now... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21273015)

Oh no! I thought I could do it with implied oral consent!

Re:Whoa now... (1)

CompSci101 (706779) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273191)

Dammit. I should have known that implied oral consent was not enough!

The cease-and-desist should be here any minute now...

C

Re:Whoa now... (3, Funny)

dgatwood (11270) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273259)

Do you have the express written consent of Major League Baseball and the American Broadcasting Company?

Just ABC.

*sound of gunfire*

Re:Whoa now... (5, Funny)

trb (8509) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273429)

They gave me express written consent, but it's in this document that I can't read any more.

Phoning home is OK for E.T. (4, Insightful)

olddotter (638430) | more than 6 years ago | (#21272887)

I don't want any product hardware, software, or DRM media that must phone home for permission to work. Too much a risk that the company will go out of business, or decide maintaining the service is no longer profitable.

If this story is true, I think a class action lawsuit is in order...

No surprise there... (1)

WaterDamage (719017) | more than 6 years ago | (#21272899)

Hmmmmm...I wonder what will happen to all those iTunes songs once Apple moves to a new DRM or non-DRM format in the future and stops supporting their old format???

Re:No surprise there... (1)

Brett Buck (811747) | more than 6 years ago | (#21272943)

Probably nothing, since one of the first things they suggest is to back up the file on CD, so you can re-import it any time you want.

      Brett

Re:No surprise there... (4, Insightful)

Andy Dodd (701) | more than 6 years ago | (#21272983)

Same thing that happened to people who bought into Microsoft's "Plays for Sure" system and then bought a Zune?

Ooops... I found it hilarious that the first company to break compatibility with a system called "Plays for Sure" was the company that created the system... (Note that I said break it, companies which never implemented it in the first place don't count.)

Re:No surprise there... (1)

sarahbau (692647) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273107)

When they do end up doing that, songs should still play on the computers they're authorized for since it only "calls home" the first time you try to play it on a computer. Hopefully Apple will be smart enough to provide something to remove the DRM though.

Thank You MLB (1)

GweeDo (127172) | more than 6 years ago | (#21272911)

I just want to say Thank you to MLB for this. The more cases of things like this screwing over the consumer the sooner we can see DRM die the death it deserves. So again...Thank you MLB.

Yes, but... (5, Funny)

n0dna (939092) | more than 6 years ago | (#21272925)

It's MLB.

The videos already wouldn't play if it was Cold. Or Raining. Or Night. Or Outside.

Re:Yes, but... (1)

Stalin (13415) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273113)

I'm not sure what sport you're talking about. All game one of the 2007 World Series was missing from your list is a cold temperature, and that is because it was unusually warm in Boston. Well, I assume it was unusually warm. I doubt Boston is normally 70 degrees on October 24.

Re:Yes, but... (1)

conteXXt (249905) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273489)

Baseball is a sport? That's the best one I have heard today.

Baseball (like American football) is a placeholder between commercials.

Unlocking Software (4, Insightful)

TheVelvetFlamebait (986083) | more than 6 years ago | (#21272937)

MLB should release unlocking software for the old DRM scheme, even if all the software does is apply the new scheme instead. DRM doesn't have to mean that the files you purchase suddenly become useless, if the company actually takes responsibility for it and fixes it. It's ethically their responsibility to rectify any damage their actions do to other people's property. But there's probably some clause saying that the people don't actually own the video, and are thus under no obligation to ensure the playability of the file. What's worse is that people aren't technically allowed to do it themselves, thanks to the DMCA. I think, however, that MLB is going to learn the meaning of the old saying: "those who aren't permitted to do, sue".

Serves them right (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21272947)

Serves them right. If you support DRM by buying this shit I don't feel sorry for you when it no longer works.
You got what you paid for and everybody told you so beforehand.

[OT] That's like those people who actually buy that viagra spam, because it's impossible to get from the pharmacy.

Re:Serves them right (3, Insightful)

Bert64 (520050) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273205)

Unfortunately, most people don't realise what DRM is or why it's bad...
They believe the marketing hype, designed to make people think it's a good thing. The people need to be educated about the dangers of DRM, and stories like this are good examples. People won't believe you without hard evidence, they're more likely to believe mass market propaganda.

Goatse DRM (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21272991)

I'm working on a way to allow Goatse to be downloaded and only viewed for 2 hours, after which it will close up and you won't be able to see it any more.

I'll keep you all posted.

MLB? How about MLD? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21272995)

Major League Dirtballs

People just don't get it, companies that use DRM.. (1)

Snotman (767894) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273041)

do not give a hoot about their customers. If they did, they would understand what DRM means and would protect a consumers property so that it is useful in the future. Companies do not care and people should give them the finger for not caring about those that would patronize their services.

Digital Restictions Management ala Star Wars (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21273083)

"The more you tighten your grip, [insert media company], the more [customers] will slip through your fingers."

I can't wait for this to go to court (1)

Pluvius (734915) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273111)

After the judge sides with the plaintiff, he'll take a printout of the sentence "any rebroadcast, reproduction, or other use of the pictures and accounts of this game without the express written consent of Major League Baseball is prohibited" and shove it up Bud Selig's ass.

At least, that's what'll happen in my dreams.

Rob

Google Video killed purchased files too. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21273159)

Coincides with what happened at Google when they killed off Google Video and all the files purchased there died. Excellent article on that mirrors what MLB just did - lose customer trust - and how it in the long run will destroy their chances of selling videos in the future.

Google Throws Lead Paint on Movie Download Market http://www.mp3newswire.net/stories/7002/google-video.html [mp3newswire.net]

THINK OF THE CHILDREN (1)

hurfy (735314) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273187)

Seriously....

There must be a mom of one of the players that has lost precious video of her son. Get her out to front the issue for the masses ;)

I hate this kind of trick nowdays. I have a scanner driver that won't work and needs an update that requires being registered...registration page no longer exists :(

3D Baseball Cards (1)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273195)

When this stunt works for MLB, resulting in people buying their <2006 videos again in the "new format", they'll finally roll out those 3D baseball cards. Sure, they need special glasses to view, but that keeps people who didn't pay for them from pirating them. Betcha can't wait for 2009, when they upgrade those goggles to the incompatible "widescreen" version!

No sympathy. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21273235)

You buy the DRM, you are bending over, giving them money, and asking for this.

this is not fascism (4, Insightful)

cliffski (65094) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273241)

and the idiot who tagged it as such needs to read some history. This is BAD DRM, and sucks, and the people responsible are idiots and should be sued. but to equate not being able to watch sports videos with fascism is just immature bullshit that makes you look foolish. Don't cry wolf.

Took them long enough (3, Insightful)

Fujisawa Sensei (207127) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273265)

If you downloaded videos of baseball games from MLB.com before 2006, apparently they no longer work and you are out of luck. MLB.com, sometime during 2006, changed their DRM system. Result: game videos purchased before that time will now no longer work

The change was made sometime during 2006, and its now October 2007, and people are only noticing this!?

Not the first time, not the last, but a good start (4, Interesting)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273287)

This happened before. And it will happen as long as people buy cripplified content. ANY content that requires you to contact its maker before it plays has the chance to follow this road. No contact, no content.

This will happen again, I'm sure. Whenever some media company goes out of biz, whenever some media company decides that they can make more money by disabling everything they already sold, this will strike again. And more people will get pissed.

Unfortunately at the company that did it, not DRM itself. But given time, people will learn. People are used to "buying" content. They're used to buying a DVD and being able to play it 'til the earth stops turning. Changing this model will not go without resistance. It will take a while for the masses to notice that seemingly minor difference, but they will.

Unfortunately that takes time. Whether it takes too long we'll see. It will sooner or later fall back on them, though. People will stop buying content, fearing that it will some day stop to "work".

So what I started to do was to do some spinning myself. Whenever some friend of mine tries to buy something DRMified, I remind him of the time when whatever DRM crippled content backfired on him. Yes, it's another company, but it also got DRM, it just MIGHT do the same, ya know... Yes, it's a lie. Still, for some odd reason my conscience gives me an A-OK for it.

But, isn't that the real purpose of DRM? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21273297)

To make you pay over and over again for the same content? Do you really think that when you lose your MP3 player with the songs locked to the hardware, that you WON'T have to buy those songs all over again? Do you really think that when you buy a new PC, you'll be able to use the licensed software that ran on the old PC? Face it, if it's got DRM, you didn't buy it -- you're just renting it!

Easy for society to fix this (5, Interesting)

Sloppy (14984) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273319)

Don't give copyright protection to publications that use copy protection. DRM -> PD. Let publishers (and their markets) decide which mutually-exclusive way to go.

Re:Easy for society to fix this (1)

david.emery (127135) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273399)

Mod parent up. I thought I had some moderator points myself, but they've apparently expired. That's a very interesting idea.

        dave

The REAL Question is... (1)

DarthTeufel (751532) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273391)

Who actually can spend the time watching a baseball game that is over 2 season old? Thats freaking dedication right there. Its one thing to watch a baseball game when you don't know whats going to happen next, but to watch one where you know the outcome... 2 years after the fact just blows my mind

MLB and Silverlight (1)

hansamurai (907719) | more than 6 years ago | (#21273477)

MLB.com has made a lot of mistakes lately, the most recent being their commitment to Silverlight, Microsoft's "Flash-killer". It's really quite annoying and I refuse to download their plugin (is there even a plugin for Firefox?).

I love baseball, but MLB can be so draconian about things. They have a subscription service that I would totally sign up for if everything MLB.com touched didn't eventually rot.
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