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OpenDocument Foundation Closes

kdawson posted more than 6 years ago | from the to-bed-without-your-supper dept.

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Munchkinguy writes "First, they dropped support for their namesake OpenDocument Format and declared a switch to the W3C's 'Compound Document Format.' Then, W3C's Chris Lilley clarified that CDF 'was not created to be, and isn't suitable for use as, an office format.' Now, the Foundation has mysteriously closed up shop, leaving the following message: 'The OpenDocument Foundation, Inc. is closed. We sincerely wish our friends and associates in the OpenDocument Community all the best and much success going forward. Good-bye and good luck.'"

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Microsoft shut them down (4, Insightful)

JamesRose (1062530) | more than 6 years ago | (#21315407)

Oh come on, you were all thinking it.

Re:Microsoft shut them down (1, Redundant)

d34thm0nk3y (653414) | more than 6 years ago | (#21315451)

Probably... If nothing else it was a trademark suit waiting to happen.

Re:Microsoft shut them down (4, Informative)

NeoTron (6020) | more than 6 years ago | (#21317671)

No it wasn't, but, it did dilute the acronym for the format and their actions did manage to fuel the FUD-fire. http://hackfud.net/2007/11/06/now-its-open-document-formats-turn-for-the-fudmeisters/ [hackfud.net] Has a good summary of that plus links to further informative pages and information related to those chaps.

Another FUD bites the dust ... (5, Funny)

tomhudson (43916) | more than 6 years ago | (#21315523)

[chorus]

dum, dum, dum, another FUD bites the dust.
dum, dum, dum, another FUD bites the dust.
And another one gone, and another one gone,
another FUD bites the dust
Hey, I'm gonna see it on youtube
another FUD bites the dust

How do you think OpenDoc Foundations gonna get along
When the M$ bux are gone?
You got all the FUD that they could give,
And kicked them out when you were done.

Are you happy? Are you satisfied?
How long can M$ stand the heat?
Out of Redmond, the chairs do fly,
To the sound of the FUD beat [chorus]

dum, dum, dum, another FUD bites the dust.
dum, dum, dum, another FUD bites the dust.
And another one gone, and another one gone,
another FUD bites the dust
Hey, I'm gonna see it on youtube
another FUD bites the dust

Mod funny (0, Offtopic)

EvanED (569694) | more than 6 years ago | (#21315533)

Dear god I wish I had points right now.

Re:Another FUD bites the dust ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21315577)

Hey, I'm gonna see it on youtube
...
How do you think OpenDoc Foundations gonna get along
...
And kicked them out when you were done.
...
To the sound of the FUD beat


A few too many syllables there, Tex.

Patches are welcome (1)

A nonymous Coward (7548) | more than 6 years ago | (#21317663)

This is open source -- don't just gripe, make your criticism constructive.

Re:Microsoft shut them down (4, Interesting)

semiotec (948062) | more than 6 years ago | (#21315563)

nope, I was thinking that they realised their gaffe has really backfired and there was nowhere else left for them to go. So they simply packed up and went home.

On the assumption that these people are not entirely stupid:

1. If they were really working to break MS Office dominance, they would have realised by now that what they have said was completely stupid, and may have brought harm to the "cause", as the damages were amplified by clueless "journalists" and "analysts" (e.g. http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=875 [zdnet.com] )

2. If they were MS stooges, the credibility required to carried out their work successfully was pretty much destroyed.

Nothing more to do in either case, to continue hanging onto the empty name of OpenDocument Foundation would be farcical on the same scale as Enderle or DiDio.

Re:Microsoft shut them down (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21315787)

nope, I was thinking that they realised their gaffe has really backfired and there was nowhere else left for them to go.

And I was thinking that they realised that an "OpenDocument Foundation" that doesn't support OpenDocument is pretty silly, so they decided to take a breather to look at their options, and chances are they'll start up again in a month's time, having rebranded themselves. They can't just flick a switch and rename themselves, all their material is based around OpenDocument.

Quite frankly, I'm surprised that people weren't expecting this. It's an entirely sensible thing to do.

Re:Microsoft shut them down (1)

LrdDimwit (1133419) | more than 6 years ago | (#21316311)

What part of this strikes you as "entirely sensible"?

Re:Microsoft shut them down (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21316461)

You're really living up to your name there, LrdDimwit. It wasn't obvious? The part of this that strikes me as "entirely sensible" is them not continuing to operate as the "OpenDocument Foundation" when they support another format in preference to the OpenDocument format. You don't think that's entirely sensible?

Re:Microsoft shut them down (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21316575)

They're not stooges, they're just living on their own little planet.

The Foundation publicly trashed-talked ODF just the other day, saying that IBM's secret plan was to move to CDF, and that IBM were treating ODF as a transitional format. I wouldn't be surprised if IBM told them to shut up shop or they'd bring the lawyers in.

Re:Microsoft shut them down (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21315829)

> Microsoft shut them down

As in, stopped paying them?

Re:Microsoft shut them down - Nah. They outsourced (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21315857)

i believe they outsourced to Novell.

Shut them down? -No, Send a large check? -Maybe.. (2, Informative)

drgonzo59 (747139) | more than 6 years ago | (#21316487)

Microsoft can't shut them down, but a nice fat check to each one of them certainly will make them shut up.

Recently they tried to bribe their way to the Nigerians to get ahead of Mandriva. Then we hear of Blamer throwing chairs around the office yelling "I'm going to fucking kill Google", I really wouldn't put it above them trying to bribe this committee into submission.

In other words, when everything else fails, look for the money trail.

In all honesty, no matter how much I would care about some open standards, Linux, Linus, and so on (and I do care about those things), if Microsoft sent me a $100k check in exchange of not caring "as much" about open standards, I don't know if I would resist. (If I would resist, I probably wouldn't resist if they doubled the offer).

To me this "bribing conspiracy" makes sense. It would be pocket change for Microsoft and would quickly solve their problem (promoting OOXML). Not a bad business move on their part...

Re:Microsoft shut them down (2, Interesting)

Trogre (513942) | more than 6 years ago | (#21317729)

"If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand."

I read it in a book once.

Fishy (3, Interesting)

corychristison (951993) | more than 6 years ago | (#21315411)

This really does sound fishy to me... Especially since (last I checked) Microsoft was a large part of W3C?

lol (-1, Flamebait)

alfs boner (963844) | more than 6 years ago | (#21315551)

i like spelling it 'i$rael' instead of 'israel.'

'the jew$ of i$rael' lol lol

Amerikkka!!!1

Re:Fishy (2, Insightful)

pablochacin (1061488) | more than 6 years ago | (#21316225)

Yes, Microsoft is a large member of W3C as almost any body else is the industry like IBM, SUN, HP and som 400 (four hundred) other companies. Please, give me a break, stop thinking that if some one doesn't agree with an open source project and prises that big pile of crap called Open Office, then is been paid by Microsoft.

As fishy as a fishy fisherman's fishy bits (5, Funny)

CarpetShark (865376) | more than 6 years ago | (#21316665)

I don't know why you'd be suspicious. Huge evil megacorp, known for bribery and corruption, is facing it's worst nightmare in the form of ODF. It's tried everything to get rid of it, and ODF is still slowly but surely progressing. Suddenly, one of the big organisations behind ODF declares that ODF is somehow a failure when it's on top, and then decides to blink out of existence altogether.

Nope. Nothing fishy there. I'm sure the OpenDoc Foundation just accidentally ate a ring of teleportation or something.

Re:As fishy as a fishy fisherman's fishy bits (2, Informative)

tehBoris (1120961) | more than 6 years ago | (#21317057)

Checking on Wikihack [wikia.com] , you can only eat rings when you are polymorphed into either a rock mole, a rust monster or xorn.

So, if they DID eat a ring of teleportation as you say, the only remaining question would be, did Microsoft zap them with the wand of polymorph?



I can't believe I just said that...

Re:As fishy as a fishy fisherman's fishy bits (4, Insightful)

The Iso (1088207) | more than 6 years ago | (#21317197)

They were never a "big organisation behind ODF." They were two guys who picked an authoritative-sounding name at got invited to conferences.

Correction, "and got invited" (n/t) (1)

The Iso (1088207) | more than 6 years ago | (#21317229)

There is no text of import in this comment.

They released a formal statement.. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21315417)

But it was in .docx format, so no one is able to open it.

Re:They released a formal statement.. (1)

vidarh (309115) | more than 6 years ago | (#21316523)

That would imply that these people are smarter than the rest of us, which is not an impression I'd like to leave in any case.

Re:They released a formal statement.. (1)

Diabolus777 (663144) | more than 6 years ago | (#21317679)

docx is simply a zip of xml files
everyone can open it
editing is the problem

Look on the bright side (4, Funny)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 6 years ago | (#21315431)

this story is just BEGGING to be tagged "thanksforallthefish"

rather tag it "!thisodf" (5, Informative)

Janek Kozicki (722688) | more than 6 years ago | (#21316209)

because it is NOT this ODF (the ISO standard (almost?), by OASIS [oasis-open.org] ) everyone knows about. Just some stupid group of people with same name.

Re:rather tag it "!thisodf" (-1, Redundant)

Tony Hoyle (11698) | more than 6 years ago | (#21316727)

But it's killed the format anyhow. They promoted it.. they supported it.. now they're gone.

ODF will continue to be supported by openoffice but it's the end for any hopes of it becoming any kind of standard. Deal with it.. game over.

Re:rather tag it "!thisodf" (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21316897)

Argh. That's exactly what They (Microsoft) want you think, and the press to regurgitate. The OpenDocument Foundation was NOT behind ODF. ODF is from OASIS and is ALREADY AN ISO STANDARD.

Good riddance (3, Interesting)

tsa (15680) | more than 6 years ago | (#21315457)

We don't need any official-sounding non-organizations spreading (F)UD.

Re:Good riddance (1)

Burz (138833) | more than 6 years ago | (#21316143)

Maybe they were hoping to get Microsoft's attention, and a nice fat donation to help spread their "message".

Re:Good riddance slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21316147)

"We don't need any official-sounding non-organizations spreading (F)UD."

Yay! You mean Slashdot's shutting down? Finally!

Now (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21315469)

Thanks god my university pushed for the MS format. Actually THIS was the thing we wear fearing the must. And we were right. NEVER...NEVER trust Open Source. You never know what you get tomorrow.

Please read previous articles. (5, Insightful)

Eco-Mono (978899) | more than 6 years ago | (#21315557)

For what it's worth to you, it's been known for some time that the Open Document Foundation doesn't represent any actual source of authority vis-a-vis ODF - nobody's really sure what the organization was for to begin with. More info in this (oft-linked) blog entry [robweir.com] .

Re:Now (3, Informative)

shaitand (626655) | more than 6 years ago | (#21315595)

I should know better than to feed the trolls but you do know these guys are not responsible for Open Document and have no official status. They were more or less a fan club. Redmond is the most likely culprit in this case so the addage NEVER... NEVER trust Redmond would be appropriate. This isn't even substantial news to the open source world and won't impact anything in it.

Hello! (1)

Frosty Piss (770223) | more than 6 years ago | (#21316017)

I should know better than to feed the trolls but you do know these guys are not responsible for Open Document and have no official status.
Yes, I think most people here at Slashdot understand that. And just about everyone else doesn't care. And that's the thing: While there is a good amount of frothing conspiracy theory going on, it really doesn't matter because no one really cared about the "Open Document Foundation" anyway. And that's probably one reason they shut down, they just where not effective FUD.

Re:Now (1)

awrowe (1110817) | more than 6 years ago | (#21317279)

Microsoft give you money if you open a fan club?

Say wha?? (1)

downix (84795) | more than 6 years ago | (#21315507)

This sounds like someone forgot what they were there for, then gave up once they realized their issues.

It's ok to say "we messed up" and call a mulligan. Right guys?

Is was not? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21315515)

CDF is 'was not
Rarely is the question asked: is our editors learning?

Re:Is was not? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21315769)

There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again.

Re:Is was not? (1)

VGPowerlord (621254) | more than 6 years ago | (#21316343)

The Dailt Show [thedailyshow.com] explains all about this.

Re:Is was not? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21316699)

So they really don't speak English in Tennessee. Interesting.

Foundation has no official status (5, Interesting)

ral315 (741081) | more than 6 years ago | (#21315531)

As was said in the last story [slashdot.org] , the OpenDocument Foundation has no official status -- it was merely a group founded by a few guys who have changed their minds about OpenDocument (whether they were paid to do so or not, no one knows). The closure of the Foundation has no impact, other than the ability for OOXML supporters to spread FUD headlines like this.

Re:Foundation has no official status (4, Informative)

fireboy1919 (257783) | more than 6 years ago | (#21315603)

To elaborate, the format was actually put forth by OASIS [oasis-open.org] (which, the entire British parliament should agree is the best band ever), but that's just a little piece of what they do.

The open document fellowship [opendocume...owship.com] are the community supporters (i.e., the ODF volunteer organization), while the ODF Alliance [odfalliance.org] are the industry supporters. What did the Open Document Foundation do? Muddy the waters.

They're the Ross Perot [wikipedia.org] of open document foundations - making people think that if they listen to them, that they'll get the real skinny because of their seeming-official status. Good to see 'em go.

Re:Foundation has no official status (1)

harlows_monkeys (106428) | more than 6 years ago | (#21315957)

Why do I suddenly have an urge to watch "Life of Brian"?

Re:Foundation has no official status (4, Funny)

Ajehals (947354) | more than 6 years ago | (#21316337)

To save you having to watch it again, (although feel free) here is an updated version, I assume its close to what you were thinking

Brian:Are you the Open Document Foundation?
Reg: Fuck off!
Brian: What?
Reg: Open Document Foundation. We're the Open Document Alliance*! Open Document Foundation. Cawk.
Francis: Wankers.
Brian: Can I... join your group?
Reg: No. Piss off.
Brian: I didn't want to code this stuff. It's only a job. I hate closed source formats as much as anybody.
ODA: Shhhh. Shhhh. Shhh. Shh. Shhhh.
Reg: Schtum.
Judith: Are you sure?
Brian: Oh, dead sure. I hate closed source formats already.
Reg: Listen. If you really wanted to join the Open Document Alliance*, you'd have to really hate closed source formats.
Brian: I do!
Reg: Oh, yeah? How much?
Brian: A lot!
Reg: Right. You're in. Listen. The only thing we hate more than closed source formats are the fucking Open Document Foundation.
ODA: Yeah...
Judith: Splitters.
ODA: Splitters...
Francis: And the Popular Alliance for Open Documents.
ODA: Yeah. Oh, yeah. Splitters. Splitters...
Loretta: And the Open Document Alliance.
ODA: Yeah. Splitters. Splitters...
Reg: What?
Loretta: The Open Document Alliance*. Splitters.
Reg: We're the Open Document Alliance*!
Loretta: Oh. I thought we were the Open Document Group.
Reg: Open Document Alliance*!
Francis: Whatever happened to the Open Document Group, Reg?
Reg: He's over there.
ODA: Splitter!

* I Know its ODF Alliance but that doesn't work as well and this is, after all humour/satire.(Based on Movie "the Life of Brian")

Re:Foundation has no official status (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21315783)

They weren't paid to change their minds... they were just given some $400,000 for a three-month deal to not market the OpenDocument Format.

foundation for creators' planet/population rescue (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21315565)

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Honestly, (0, Offtopic)

EaglemanBSA (950534) | more than 6 years ago | (#21315567)

I could care less what they do. I save all my open documents to pdf's that everyone can read anyway...what's the issue here?

Re:Honestly, (1)

astrashe (7452) | more than 6 years ago | (#21315591)

Editing PDFs is hard.

Re:Honestly, (1)

Fred_A (10934) | more than 6 years ago | (#21317693)

Editing PDFs is hard.
Granted it's not as convenient as a random office format (or an open office format for that matter) but it's not exactly *hard* [petricek.net] either.

Re:Honestly, (2, Informative)

SavedLinuXgeeK (769306) | more than 6 years ago | (#21315605)

Well that might be because people want to be able to edit the document later. Just a thought.

Re:Honestly, (1)

Znork (31774) | more than 6 years ago | (#21315927)

Feh. Save in UTF-8 Unicode text format and typeset in whatever presentation format you need.

Word processor formats are the computer version of toilet paper. You dont use it for longterm retention of important information.

Re:Honestly, (1)

elh_inny (557966) | more than 6 years ago | (#21316995)

Unfortunately plain text stores no information about the organization of the text.
That's where you use DocBook for instance.
But average Joe nor even programmers understand the advantages of splitting the information , meta-information and presentation, therefore they all use Word for drafting their documents.

Re:Honestly, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21316771)

Tell me, how much less could you care?

a closed doc shop with a shop closed doc (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21315593)

if Windows was a plane,
i'd be riding on a train

poetic justice, or what!!

In related news (3, Funny)

LM741N (258038) | more than 6 years ago | (#21315613)

The Republican Party released a similar piece saying the party was unsuitable for use in a Democracy. "We wish all the good luck too our Democratic colleagues in sustaining the intent of the US Constitution."

Re:In related news (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21315695)

In more related news, the Democratic party quickly issued a statement saying "Us too!" after poll numbers revealed a sudden surge in popularity for the Republican party.

Re:In related news (1, Insightful)

pilsner.urquell (734632) | more than 6 years ago | (#21315873)

The Republican Party released a similar piece saying the party was unsuitable for use in a Democracy. "We wish all the good luck too our Democratic colleagues in sustaining the intent of the US Constitution."
That would only be true if we lived in a Democracy. Your statement indicates you don't know what kind of government you live under, I recommend you look it up.

Re:In related news (2, Insightful)

nagora (177841) | more than 6 years ago | (#21316023)

That would only be true if we lived in a Democracy. Your statement indicates you don't know what kind of government you live under, I recommend you look it up.

"Plutocracy".

TWW

Re:In related news (1)

pilsner.urquell (734632) | more than 6 years ago | (#21316133)

"Plutocracy"
So your answer is socialism?

Re:In related news (1)

Chandon Seldon (43083) | more than 6 years ago | (#21316221)

Step 1: Identify the problems.
Step 2: Come up with potential solutions.
Step 3: Don't give up when you realize that the potential solutions might be more radical than you expected.

The fact of the matter is that the economic system in the United States is very likely incompatible with democracy. I'm not yet convinced that some sort socialist model is the only thing that would work, but hybrid-socialist systems (as in Northern Europe) are the best solution that has been demonstrated in practice.

Re:In related news (1)

nagora (177841) | more than 6 years ago | (#21316549)

So your answer is socialism?

What a strange leap of logic. You need to study Lincoln.

Re:In related news (1)

pilsner.urquell (734632) | more than 6 years ago | (#21317113)

What a strange leap of logic. You need to study Lincoln.

What part of Lincoln? The man was a tyrant imprisoning thousand suspected Confederate sympathizers without trial, revoked habeas corpus and spent money on the Civil War without Congresses approval. Abraham Lincoln was so unpopular that in 1925 when Mount Rushmore commissioned his bust almost didn't make it because of the fear that anti Lincoln sympathizers would vandalize the bust, sixty years after his death.

I would venture to say if there had been poles in Abe's time he probably make George Bush AND Congress look like golden boys. All and all he was probably a pretty good president although I defiantly don't believe the ends justifies the means.

Re:In related news (1)

the eric conspiracy (20178) | more than 6 years ago | (#21317431)

Anti-Lincoln sympathizers? WTF is an anti-Lincoln?

Re:In related news (1)

Fred_A (10934) | more than 6 years ago | (#21317707)

What a strange leap of logic. You need to study Lincoln.

What part of Lincoln?
Numerous scholars seem bo believe that his left knee was especialy worthy of study for some reason.

Re:In related news (0, Flamebait)

ewieling (90662) | more than 6 years ago | (#21316669)

Moving quickly to being a theocracy. I expect the atheists to be rounded up and put in "re-education" camps any day now.

Re:In related news (1)

ozbird (127571) | more than 6 years ago | (#21316937)

Plutocracy: A minor government.

Re:In related news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21316131)

Dear god, why do they let middle schoolers have access to the internet. Check up on American history and the different forms of Democracy you semantic whore!

Re:In related news (1)

belmolis (702863) | more than 6 years ago | (#21317129)

You're confused. If you look it up, you'll find that the US is considered a democracy.

Re:In related news (1)

pilsner.urquell (734632) | more than 6 years ago | (#21317327)

You're confused. If you look it up, you'll find that the US is considered a democracy.

Your the one that is confused. Go find an American Flag, stand in front of if, place your rught hand over ypour heart and say:

"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Democracy for which it stands, ..."

Now is that right?

Re:In related news (1)

belmolis (702863) | more than 6 years ago | (#21317593)

I know perfectly well that the US is a republic. Your confusion is that you think that a republic is not a democracy, which is false. The US is a republic and a democracy. There's no conflict. You don't explain yourself, but the usual basis for this fallacy is the mistaken belief that only direct democracies are democracies. That just isn't the case: representative democracies like the United States are considered democracies by virtually everybody, and the definitions of democracy that you will find in dictionaries and encyclopedias are not restricted to direct democracies. As one of many examples, see the Wikipedia article on democracy [wikipedia.org] .

Re:In related news (1)

pilsner.urquell (734632) | more than 6 years ago | (#21317737)

Your confusion is that you think that a republic is not a democracy, ...

You make it sound like it's a democratic republic much like the former USSR was a socialist republic. We do not have a democratic republic.

Re:In related news (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21315899)

Yes, because the dems love the Bill of Rights.

Resurrect it then (4, Interesting)

presidenteloco (659168) | more than 6 years ago | (#21315641)

Someone else (who isn't busy like me ;-) ) should form another organization by the same name then
I suppose.

Anyone?

The worst that could happen is that M$ will pay you a bundle to close it down again.

At best you could shepherd a format that we sorely need promoted.

MS Laughing Its A** Off (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21315659)

Microsoft must be laughing its ass off. There'll be nothing but smug I told you so's for the next year.

Re:MS Laughing Its A** Off (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21315703)

There'll be nothing but smug I told you so's for the next year.

Why? This was nothing but a sham organisation that existed to promote a sham document format (OOXML). This headline is the last bit of FUD they could throw, making it appear that ODF is dead. Why does Slashdot even given credence to these shills? Articles like this (and the lies about moving to CDF) deserve to be given a good ignoring, otherwise we're just encouraging Microsoft to make up more scam foundations.

Obligatory South Park Reference (1)

Dunbal (464142) | more than 6 years ago | (#21315841)

Oh God, if we add Microsoft's smug with the smug from all the hybrid drivers and the smug from George Clooney's Oscar acceptance speech then we're really in the shit.

Choose opendocumentcommunity.org Quick! (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21315675)

>We sincerely wish our friends and associates in the OpenDocument Community

And opendocumentcommunity (.org, .net, .com) domains are vacant. Quickly, choose one and spread FUD!! XD

Re:Choose opendocumentcommunity.org Quick! (2, Funny)

downix (84795) | more than 6 years ago | (#21315721)

Hmm... **texts the boss**

Microsoft Too.... (0, Troll)

Sfing_ter (99478) | more than 6 years ago | (#21315737)

Microsoft too is cutting back in these hard times, when fud is discovered as fud it no longer is fud it is an albatross around Ball(less)mer's neck, and does not reek enough already with his aerobic workouts at meetings and trainings...???

Excellent precedent (3, Interesting)

belmolis (702863) | more than 6 years ago | (#21315805)

This is an excellent precedent. Maybe the Alexis de Tocqueville Institution [wikipedia.org] will follow their lead.

The OpenDocument Foundation hasn't gone away (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21315987)

The OpenDocument Foundation have moved to da-vinci.us [da-vinci.us] ... named after their vaporware converter product that they claimed could magically convert between ODF and OOXML losslessly. They showed it at conferences on their own test documents and their claims have never been substatiated.

On the OpenDocument Fellowship mailing list (not to be confused with the 'Foundation') there's been some posts from members of the foundation... hilariously they accidentally send a private email to the full list [opendocume...owship.com] which reveals their plans (hint: they're not going away, but they will continue with their FUD)

Don't be fooled by their claims in that email. You'll see that despite being challenged they can't back up anything they say!

Re:The OpenDocument Foundation hasn't gone away (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21316151)

The parent isn't a troll. Read it and follow the links.

Also shut down (1)

vik (17857) | more than 6 years ago | (#21316335)

That links to the foundation's website and is also shut down.

Vik :v)

Re:Also shut down (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21316423)

All the members of the OpenDocument Foundation recently moved their email from opendocumentfoundation.us to da-vinci.us. Keep an eye on that site, and read those links (ps reprap rocks)

Still Making News...? (2, Insightful)

mlauzon (818714) | more than 6 years ago | (#21316155)

Why is this still making news, it has already been found out that the OpenDocument Foundation, Inc. has nothing to do with the OpenDocument Alliance...the real organisation behind ODF; so I ask again why this is still making news?!

In other news.... (5, Funny)

LingNoi (1066278) | more than 6 years ago | (#21316405)

...I just made a new organisation called the Open Document Format Gathering and we are now closing because ODF sucks / whatever.. now give me my Microsoft check...

Pointless. (1)

Jessta (666101) | more than 6 years ago | (#21316527)

We already went over this, the open document foundation is just four guys in a garage with no real connection to the OpenDocument Format.
This news is pointless.

Tit for Tat (1)

99BottlesOfBeerInMyF (813746) | more than 6 years ago | (#21316675)

Maybe I should found the OpenOffice XML Standardization Committee? Anyone interested in joining? Membership requires you prefer OOXML today, but plan to have a strong belief that ODF is superior to OOXML as per the announcement we'll make tomorrow. Don't worry, it won't take a lot of your time since we plan to dissolve in a week, and announce that to the tech press. ;)

Re:Tit for Tat (1)

zullnero (833754) | more than 6 years ago | (#21317259)

I'll join! Do I get a share of the kickback payment?

Re:Tit for Tat (1)

99BottlesOfBeerInMyF (813746) | more than 6 years ago | (#21317689)

I'll join! Do I get a share of the kickback payment?

Sure... you call the PR department at Sun and I'll call IBM.

Sour grapes? (1)

loftwyr (36717) | more than 6 years ago | (#21316839)

Maybe they're just really upset that Robert Weir from IBM was given co-chair status [oasis-open.org] instead of one of them. After all they're in charge of a whole foundation.

Good to see them gone.

I'm nominating (1)

zullnero (833754) | more than 6 years ago | (#21317235)

.txt as the new standard document format for everyone to use. My slogan is "It just works."

This just in... (1)

Teilo (91279) | more than 6 years ago | (#21317317)

Leading several prominent Ziff Davis publications to report, "The Open Document Format has been abandoned, as its parent organization has closed its doors."

Goodbye and good riddance to the trolling trio and their self-serving vaporware specification.

Attention! Announcement! (1)

the eric conspiracy (20178) | more than 6 years ago | (#21317499)

In related news I have the pleasure of announcing that The Eric Conspiracy has commissioned a fully-owned subsidiary named "The Open Document Format Conspiracy" or ODFC. The ODFC has acquired all of the trademarks, intellectual property and desk accessories of the Open Document Foundation (not saying how) and will soon take over all of the rights, duties and responsibilities of the Open Document Foundation (if any exist).

Watch this space for future announcements, news, and requests for donations.

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