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Facial Recognition Vending Machine Debuts

samzenpus posted more than 6 years ago | from the no-more-candy-for-you-chubby dept.

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Peter Hanami writes "Yesterday in Japan, a facial recognition vending machine went on sale that can tell the age of the buyer based on a range of features including number of wrinkles, bone structure and how the skin sits on the face. It was developed as a way to stop minors from buying cigarettes from vending machines. In Japan, cigarette vending machines are a common feature on the street and presently few safeguards exist to stop younger users from purchasing them. This new machine is seen as a positive step to reduce under age smoking. If the machine doesnt deem the buyer to be of suitable age, 20 years old, the buyer must provide further identification such as a drivers licence."

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Build a better mouse trap... (0)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 6 years ago | (#21343923)

... breeds a better mouse. Ronny to the rescue. [sillyjokes.co.uk] *

And if that doesn't work, they'll figure out, yet, how to beat the machine, keeping the mask warm under shirt if it's looking for IR. Eventually this will inconvenience smokers.

*Remember, Nancy says, "Just Say No!"

Re:Build a better mouse trap... (2, Insightful)

tubapro12 (896596) | more than 6 years ago | (#21343933)

And of course, what about people who look older than they actually are? I had a friend in high school who liked he was almost thirty before he even turned twenty.

Re:Build a better mouse trap... (1)

wizardforce (1005805) | more than 6 years ago | (#21343969)

There's not really much you can do about it other than require an ID for everyone regardless of age. In that case, you'd still have a problem with faked ids which this system wouldn't solve anyways.

Re:Build a better mouse trap... (1)

trolltalk.com (1108067) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344263)

>"There's not really much you can do about it other than require an ID for everyone regardless of age"

You can always just ban cigarette vending machines ... other places have done it.

Re:Build a better mouse trap... (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 6 years ago | (#21343979)

And of course, what about people who look older than they actually are? I had a friend in high school who liked he was almost thirty before he even turned twenty.

And those who look far younger than they are. I recall an embarrassing gaffe where a friend of a friend offered to drive us to some store. He nipped into the house and emerged with the keys, started the car and away we went. I asked if his mom knew he drove her car. Ooops. He was 18 and it was his car, though he looked for the world like he was 13.

Re:Build a better mouse trap... (1)

HTH NE1 (675604) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344269)

And those who look far younger than they are. I recall an embarrassing gaffe where a friend of a friend offered to drive us to some store. He nipped into the house and emerged with the keys, started the car and away we went. I asked if his mom knew he drove her car. Ooops. He was 18 and it was his car, though he looked for the world like he was 13.
So the gaffe was... that you insulted his choice of car as effeminate?

"They called the Enterprise a garbage scow! Sir."

Re:Build a better mouse trap... (1)

pintpusher (854001) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344311)

that was from all the smoking...

Re:Build a better mouse trap... (1)

Z34107 (925136) | more than 6 years ago | (#21345185)

I had a friend in high school who liked he was almost thirty before he even turned twenty.

Maybe he looked thirty because he was smoking too much.

And maybe that made it easier for him to get cigarettes from the machine... which let him smoke more...

Obligatory Kids In The Hall (1)

Propaganda13 (312548) | more than 6 years ago | (#21345883)

Gavin: okay. These guys, smoke.

Mark: They smoke.

Gavin: Yeah!

Mark: Wow.

Gavin: And they're *bad*! And you know what??? They taught a dog to smoke! Do you believe that?

Mark: Sure, I believe that.

Gavin: Yeah, well it's true! And they taught him to beg for cigarettes! Door to door! So right away when this poor little devil would ring your door bell with his paws, you'd know right away what he wanted! So you'd give him a cigarette, and he'd take it back to these guys that waited by the fence to smoke, and they didn't care who saw them smoke! These guys sure smoked!

Re:Build a better mouse trap... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21343937)

*Remember, Nancy says, "Just Say No!"
as she pops another hand full of pills...

$1.89 hack (4, Insightful)

EmbeddedJanitor (597831) | more than 6 years ago | (#21343987)

Re:$1.89 hack (1)

Aladrin (926209) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344225)

Yes, because nothing looks as natural as a Japanese man with a mustache.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/image/19497/japans_new_royal_son.html [associatedcontent.com]

Hmmm... I'm not so sure about this plan of yours. It's probably easier to get a passer-by to stand in front of the machine for a moment, instead.

Re:Build a better mouse trap... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21344433)

what is you just wear like a mask? would it recognize people wearing masks

Re:Build a better mouse trap... (4, Insightful)

Schraegstrichpunkt (931443) | more than 6 years ago | (#21345989)

Eventually this will inconvenience smokers.

I've had enough smokers stand upwind, throw cigarette butts everywhere, walk around stinking like a smokestack, etc., that I just don't care if smokers are inconvenienced once in a while too.

What a bunch (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21343935)

of NIGGERS.

Re:What a bunch (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21344005)

How does facial recognition work with ethnics? They all look the same!

Re:What a bunch (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21344609)

It's like my father used to say: "When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nigger."

Re:What a bunch (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21345501)

Only on slashdot could racist drivel be modded funny. And I thought us geeks came to the conclusion that the only prejudice that we could carry would be against the popular people! What happened to that!

I'll Make Sure to Bring... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21343943)

A picture of daddy!

What about other nationalities (4, Interesting)

Kazrath (822492) | more than 6 years ago | (#21343947)

This was obviously created in Japan with Japanese in mind. I am curious "out of the box" how it functions against other nationalities who's facial features are significantly different. I would suspect it would be unable to identify the age and require an identification card of some sort.

Well at least it is a fairly novel idea.

Re:What about other nationalities (1, Funny)

Aladrin (926209) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344193)

"and require an identification card of some sort."

Ah, so you read the summary. Very bold of you, sir.

FTFS: "the buyer must provide further identification such as a drivers licence."

Re:What about other nationalities (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21344241)

I am curious "out of the box" how it functions against other nationalities who's...


I'm not. This is something we'll never see in America anyway.

Re:What about other nationalities (1)

ObsessiveMathsFreak (773371) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344615)

I am curious "out of the box" how it functions against other nationalities who's facial features are significantly different.
Same way it deals with Japanese facial features. Very poorly.

Seriously, the difference between "races" is hardly so vast that the algorithms will have to be rewritten from scratch. In fact, they probably won't have to be rewritten at all. Are there really any facial feature that are unique to geographic regions?

Re:What about other nationalities (1)

piojo (995934) | more than 6 years ago | (#21345085)

Seriously, the difference between "races" is hardly so vast that the algorithms will have to be rewritten from scratch. In fact, they probably won't have to be rewritten at all. Are there really any facial feature that are unique to geographic regions?
Are you kidding? My Vietnamese girlfriend always jokingly asks me why all Westerners look so old, and I ask her why all Asians are so small (or why they look so young). If the algorithm isn't a learning one, it absolutely will not succeed at this task. I witnessed the introduction of an Israeli girl and a Japanese woman. The Israeli asked in English, "How old are you?", and the Japanese woman said, "Thirty." My Israeli friend said, "No, you couldn't possibly be thirteen..." She misheard, because this woman looked very much younger than thirty. Would that woman have looked so young to another Japanese person? Probably not. So, learning to tell the age of one race leads to incorrect judgements about the age of another. Hence, the machine won't work on Westerners.

Re:What about other nationalities (1)

megaditto (982598) | more than 6 years ago | (#21345451)

Apparently the age thing is handled differently over there. Old people get lots of respect and admiration, so much so in fact, that many will exaggerate their age.

Also, telling a middle-aged person that they look young is like calling them a 'nO0b' -- not a good thing (or so I am told).

In light of this, these smokes machines might be little more than a clever marketing ploy to appeal to the younger smokers.

Re:What about other nationalities (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21345487)

"...girlfriend..." On Slashdot? Now we know you're lying.

Re:What about other nationalities (1)

badasscat (563442) | more than 6 years ago | (#21345655)

Seriously, the difference between "races" is hardly so vast that the algorithms will have to be rewritten from scratch. In fact, they probably won't have to be rewritten at all. Are there really any facial feature that are unique to geographic regions?

First of all, are you really so PC that you need to put "races" in quotes, as if you doubt the fact that different races even exist?

Second, while it may not be politically correct to say, it's pretty obvious that there are visual differences between races. Most of these differences we can all agree on - Caucasians generally have lighter skin than those of African descent, Asians have a different eye shape (and really a different eyelid structure), as well as thinner eyebrows. Other differences are more subtle, but they still exist - I think it's pretty much conventional wisdom that Asians also "look younger" at any given age than whites. I put that in quotes because nobody can ever seem to pinpoint why, but different types of skin do have different properties and it could partially be a relative lack of wrinkles until reaching a more advanced age. Asian skin is different than Caucasian or other races' skin. Different races have evolved in different climates.

One example - how old is this girl [wikimedia.org] ?

Another shot of the same girl [jugem.jp] .

What would you guess? 15? 16 at most?

She's 23. And she's even half-Caucasian.

How about these girls [flickr.com] ?

Most people here seem to think they're still teenagers. But as of this magazine cover, one was 33 and the other was 32.

This is not uncommon - in fact I'd say it's more common than not. My wife is also from Japan - she's 35, and most people here think she's at least 10 years younger. (Of course, in Japan, people think she's 35.)

So any age recognition software is definitely going to have to take that into account. The Japanese know it too; it's not just us, they think we look old as hell at any given age. (That's probably closer to the truth - we look old, they look normal. Some of it is probably based on our unhealthy diets.)

I don't see how this machine could work reliably in the first place, but it would definitely need to be re-tuned for any use in the west, if it's even going to have a chance.

Why not compare ID with face? (5, Insightful)

Nyktos (198946) | more than 6 years ago | (#21343957)

If it's that good, why don't they just require standard government ID and use the face recognizer to determine if the buyer is the person on the ID and let the ID provide the age?

Re:Why not compare ID with face? (2, Informative)

QuantumG (50515) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344037)

That does sound a lot more sensible.

I guess you haven't figured out how to think like the Japanese yet.

Re:Why not compare ID with face? (1)

HTH NE1 (675604) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344123)

Mod points to parent of this.

Then again, I'm not versed in the law in Japan. Perhaps they have laws preventing the use of the ID in this manner (unlike how the US SSN was only (broken) promised to be used for limited government purposes), and others preventing industry from providing its own IDs for use with their devices (i.e. a card for use in certain brands of cigarette vending machines, a card for use in certain brands of alcohol vending machines, a card for use in certain brands of pornography vending machines, a card for use in certain brands of soiled teenage schoolgirl panties vending machines, etc.).

Re:Why not compare ID with face? (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344179)

If it's that good, why don't they just require standard government ID and use the face recognizer to determine if the buyer is the person on the ID and let the ID provide the age?

Perhaps they should just use a fingerprint analyser ...

  • or Blood tester (Give blood - Smoke!)
  • or LungCam (hai! As dark as a pint of Sapporo Black!
  • or Manga-reflex (If your pupils dialate at this then you are under 21)

At least this isnt Replicant hunting... (1)

sethstorm (512897) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344417)

or Manga-reflex (If your pupils dialate at this then you are under 21)
Let me guess that you want one of these [wikipedia.org] . Be forewarned that it may take an extended test for some people.

Re:Why not compare ID with face? (4, Insightful)

arth1 (260657) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344347)

Because you might not want the information that you buy cigarettes to enter a database? (Which could, for example, be used to deny health insurance later.)
Or you believe in the right to be anonymous and not have a government issued ID card?

Re:Why not compare ID with face? (1)

UbuntuDupe (970646) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344971)

If you're worried about your government ID connecting you to cigarette usage, you're probably *also* not going to be happy with a face-recognizing visual scan that can be passed to the government and linked to your government photo :-P

(Which could, for example, be used to deny health insurance later.)

Oh, yeah, I forgot about the right to defraud insurance companies by getting the rates of a non-smoker when you smoke.

Then again a smoker doesn't argue (1)

Cryacin (657549) | more than 6 years ago | (#21345465)

Seriously, I have witnessed smokers pick up cigarette butts from the street when they were desperate, but then complain that the person who was serving their hamburger didn't wash their hands.

Re:Why not compare ID with face? (1)

Frosty Piss (770223) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344467)

If it's that good, why don't they just require standard government ID and use the face recognizer to determine if the buyer is the person on the ID and let the ID provide the age?
How often am I supposed to go in for a new picture / have new facial recognition meta info encoded onto this card? My drivers license is good for 5 years, and I'm now 44 years old. At 49 will I look enough the same?

This technology has potential for AI programming for robots and such, but should only be used as a "one of many" input to determine if additional confirmation is necessary. And what about rubber masks and make-up?

Re:Why not compare ID with face? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21344521)

Because then all you need to do is get an older persons ID and you are set forever.

Whereas with face recognition, you would need someone of age with you each time.

Re:Why not compare ID with face? (2, Insightful)

mpcooke3 (306161) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344531)

Maybe the Japanese government doesn't want to invest billions in a civil liberty infringing national ID card scheme when they know it wouldn't actually stop kids buying cigarettes?

Re:Why not compare ID with face? (1)

tooyoung (853621) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344593)

Because facial recognition doesn't work very well on large populations of individuals. A facial recognition system operating on an entire nation's worth of people would not be very successful. This is in large part due to the way that many facial recognition systems work, relying on various distance measures between eigenfaces.

Further more, most facial recognition systems are trained using more than a single source image per individual.

There are also a surprising number of laws that regulate commercial entities from using government-collected face databases.

Re:Why not compare ID with face? (1)

timeOday (582209) | more than 6 years ago | (#21345253)

why don't they just require standard government ID and use the face recognizer to determine if the buyer is the person on the ID and let the ID provide the age?
Because that wouldn't increase the convenience of the machine at all vs. just requiring an ID card. I guess you are viewing this as a security mechanism, but the people making them apparently think there's a better market as a convenience mechanism. Based on this, I would guess that Japan's attitude about under-age smoking is less strict than here in the US.

wtf? (-1, Troll)

virgil_disgr4ce (909068) | more than 6 years ago | (#21343959)

Who the hell wrote this broke-ass summary? Or a better question is, who the hell proofread and approved it?! Yes, yes, I know, "you must be new here," har har. Seriously, this is garbage.

--ted

Re:wtf? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21343973)

Even worse: the article linked to is just another blog, seeking hits and advertising.

The original article is at yomiuri.co.jp [yomiuri.co.jp] .

Re:wtf? (0, Offtopic)

josh_db (1082509) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344155)

Mod parent up until the editors get a clue. Proofread the damn submissions! It's not only atrociously grammatically incorrect (overlooking my own grammar mistakes hehe) but could also be worded a lot better. SlashDot! Argh!

Re:wtf? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21344989)

Look, I'm a card-carrying grammar nazi (apostrophe abusers, beware!), but I didn't see anything egregious about the summary on my first pass. Looking back, okay, there's some missing commas, but nothing that merits vitriol.

Overkill (1)

UltraMathMan (1139987) | more than 6 years ago | (#21343965)

I'm all for new technology making things easier, but in this case why not just require ID for everyone purchasing instead of using it as a backup to a much more complicated solution?

Re:Overkill (1)

ILuvRamen (1026668) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344127)

Yeah, I'm a programmer so I agree that you put the most accurate system up front and the less accurate one as a backup. And reading someone's license allows you to, I assume, extensively test if it's fake. Plus then you read an exact date of birth and tada. Reading someone's face and matching it to a photo of their face is ridiculously hard let alone trying to guess their age from it. I know some 7th graders that look older than I currently do and I'm 20. Full beard and 6' height and everything. It's just ridiculously inaccurate.
And since us programmers keep it real: in response to the other person up there who said why not match their picture to the live pic of their face...because if they used the most obvious, quick and easy comparison points like (FINE I'LL SAY IT) hair and skin color and eye color and height, those kinda tend to always result in a positive no matter who the machine sees in asian countries.

Honne and Tatemae (5, Interesting)

CB-in-Tokyo (692617) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344399)

Well here is the Honne and the Tatemae (The real thing and the appearance or facade) of Japanese culture at work.

It is not about actually preventing minors from purchasing cigarettes, it about making the appearance of doing so. By making the appearance of oing so, these vending machines will continue to be allowed, and it may even stop them from being "turned off" at 11:00 PM as they are now. It may also allow Beer vending machines to make a comeback (they are still here, but in far fewer quantities than they used to be.)

Japan is about image, and showing that you are respecting the group consensus. Japan is not about actually making something foolproof.

Re:Honne and Tatemae (3, Interesting)

rabiddeity (941737) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344799)

Japan is about image, and showing that you are respecting the group consensus. Japan is not about actually making something foolproof.

See also the new foreigner fingerprinting measures [google.com] going into effect this month. The fingerprinting and storage of those fingerprints has nothing to do with preventing terrorist attacks. It's about presenting an image to reactionary domestic groups and to the United States. The fact that it's going to have a negative impact on their tourist industry hasn't hit them for some reason. Japan has security theater down to an art form.

Re:Honne and Tatemae (1)

CB-in-Tokyo (692617) | more than 6 years ago | (#21345007)

Oh God, don't get me started on that! That is going to be a total pain in the ass for us foreigners who live here and have to travel all the time.

The Honne: Terror bad! We make you safe. Safe equals happy, we love you!

Tatemae: Must fingerprint foreign Devils.

Here is a video the Japanese government have put together about this which is worth the watch simply because it is so stupid it is funny.

http://nettv.gov-online.go.jp/common/moviechk.php?p=1203&d=0&t=110&b=0&m=1&r=2 [gov-online.go.jp]

The real purpose of this is to once again fingerprint all foreigners in Japan. It used to be mandatory, until it finally got thrown out about 10 years ago. They tried a few years back to fingerprint all of the Japanese citizens, and there as a public outcry that put a stop to that nonsense, but foreigners are fair game.

The truly ironic thing is, all terrorism in Japan has been committed by groups that are exempt from the list.

Absolutely Honne and Tatemae in action.

Re:Honne and Tatemae (1)

Mr. Slippery (47854) | more than 6 years ago | (#21345155)

Well, shit. That's new. I'm headed back over there in two weeks and didn't know about this. Thanks for posting.

Backwards? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21345303)

> The Honne: Terror bad! We make you safe. Safe equals happy, we love you!
> Tatemae: Must fingerprint foreign Devils.

Don't you have those backwards? "Must fingerprint gaijin," doesn't seem like much of a tatemae...

Re:Backwards? (1)

CB-in-Tokyo (692617) | more than 6 years ago | (#21345555)

Yes indeed! I do have them backwards. Thanks for that.

Why not just use the DL at first? (1)

astrashe (7452) | more than 6 years ago | (#21343977)

Why not just have people use their driver's license every time?

Wouldn't the comparatively simple low tech solution be better? Wouldn't even older smokers rather have a reliable system that one that's probably going to deny them cigarettes when it misreads their faces?

Re:Why not just use the DL at first? (2, Funny)

urcreepyneighbor (1171755) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344069)

Deny... me... my... cigarettes?!

Kamikaze the machine!

Re:Why not just use the DL at first? (1)

tubapro12 (896596) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344187)

Well, from an American viewpoint (which may or may not apply in Japan), inserting one's driver's license/other photo ID into a machine might seem like a potential identity security breach. But <caesura /> where are there not potential security breaches in today's world?

Re:Why not just use the DL at first? (2, Informative)

1u3hr (530656) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344515)

Why not just have people use their driver's license every time?

A lot of people in Japan don't have driver's licences.

Anyway, the whole idea is to make the transaction quick and not require the purchaser to find a card. It's an initiative by the cigarette machine makers to make their machines more acceptable, not by the government to reduce cigarette smoking by youngsters.

Licenses? (1)

sultanoslack (320583) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344577)

I don't know what the situation is like in Japan, but in many countries most people don't have driver's licenses -- moreso in places of high population density.

Re:Why not just use the DL at first? (2, Informative)

JanneM (7445) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344743)

Why not just have people use their driver's license every time?

Because a lot of people don't have driver's licenses here, and thus there is no standard ID card to read, nor is there any requirement that you actually own one. A fair amount of people will actually use their bankbook or similar document, and for signatures you'd use a hanko.

I wonder... (1)

Hanging By A Thread (906564) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344009)

Will it recognize how pissed off you are when the product you purchased got stuck.

They're pretty neat but... (4, Funny)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344027)

How come no matter what button I push this damn vending machine keeps spitting out Clearasil?!

Re:They're pretty neat but... (1)

AngryLlama (611814) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344695)

Or, what about clear-eyes?

Old news (1)

D H NG (779318) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344083)

They've already got those [nytimes.com] . Heck, these vending machines can even run away [reuters.com] .

Japanese Newspaper headlines: (0)

planckscale (579258) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344093)

Beheadings at all time high!

Sounds like it could be easily fooled (2, Interesting)

Matt Perry (793115) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344137)

So some kid takes a picture of his grandfather's face, prints it out on his color printer, and then holds the printout up in front of the camera. I wonder if the software will realize whether it's looking at a real face or not.

Re:Sounds like it could be easily fooled (1)

BlueTrin (683373) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344177)

I do not know about this device, but if I was in charge to make one, I would add some feature to check the depth, so the wrinkles would be detected by refraction not by looking at the picture, or even better you could try to match the surface to the picture.

Re:Sounds like it could be easily fooled (1)

ross.w (87751) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344915)

You need one of these [resultspage.com] .

Need these in pubs and clubs! (4, Funny)

myowntrueself (607117) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344221)

No, not for the vending machines, but so that blind-drunk guys can get a machines 'expert opinion' as to whether their prospective, er, 'date' is under age or not...

examineButton_onclick() (1)

game kid (805301) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344677)

if (girl.isOldEnough())
  displayApprovalDialog(girl.name);
else
  whyDontYouHaveASeatOverThere(user.name);

//I'm pretty sure I violated Obscure Coding Rule #655360 but whatever

Re:examineButton_onclick() (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21346041)

no curly braces to mark your blocks :)

Hmmmm (4, Interesting)

djupedal (584558) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344271)

I can recall when vending machines in Japan sold cigarettes, coffee, beer, condoms & pantyhose...all out of the same machine. As Slim would say "That's a goddamn 3 day vacation in Las Vegas".

Some of the beer machines would power off at a certain time to try to discourage street drunks.

When asked what kept under age drinkers from using the beer vending machines, the locals would reply "well, they just don't..."

Certain enterprising business men would pay the local high school girls for used underwear. Then they would shrinkwrap them, along with a signed Polaroid and put them into those arcade 'claw' machines. Had a thriving business until the neighborhood moms began wondering why their daughters were always asking for new Hello Kitty undies. The moms went to the cops. The cops were stumped, at first, as they had a hard time finding a specific law on the books that the pre-owned-panty vendors were breaking.

Finally, the cops decided to apply an antiques law that says you have to be licensed accordingly for the sale of certain 'used' or aged goods. No permit to sell antiques? Come with us...you're under arrest - and don't forget the evidence :)

Re:Hmmmm (2, Interesting)

kryzx (178628) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344341)

Parent post makes me think we need a "+1 Off-Topic" mod.

Re:Hmmmm (1)

JesseMcDonald (536341) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344617)

Parent post makes me think we need a "+1 Off-Topic" mod.

Perhaps "+1 Better Topic" would be more appropriate? "Off-Topic" has a somewhat negative connotation. Also, it would go well with the proposed "-1 Too Informative" mod.

Re:Hmmmm (2, Funny)

boobavon (857902) | more than 6 years ago | (#21345293)

+1 panties.

condom vending machines!!! (-1, Troll)

myowntrueself (607117) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344351)

Of course!

Fit these on condom vending machines in pubs and clubs. Not to ensure that guys buying condoms are legal age but because since, as everyone knows, its a womans responsibility to ensure that a guy uses protection, when an *underage* girl trys to buy a pack of condoms from the vending machine it *refuses* to sell them to her and, of course, she doesn't have sex thereby saving the unsuspecting guy the trauma of discovering that he had sex with an underage girl!

Brilliant!!!

Re:condom vending machines!!! (2, Insightful)

stormguard2099 (1177733) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344461)

I think they should just dispense condoms for free for whoever wants them in the pubs and clubs. The kind of people who hook up in these places are the ones we don't want reproducing

Re:condom vending machines!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21344853)

Fascist-style eugenics from "stormguard". Charming.

Re:condom vending machines!!! (1)

QuantumG (50515) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344503)

Ever notice how the vending machines in women's bathrooms have one kind of condom, hair brushes, deodorant, lipstick, etc, but the vending machines in men's bathrooms have 8 different kinds of condom? I'm sure there's some market research going on there.

Re:condom vending machines!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21345229)

I tend just to go in men's bathrooms.

Re:condom vending machines!!! (1)

QuantumG (50515) | more than 6 years ago | (#21345597)

and being a resident of slashdot you have no female friends.

Are you saying I'm fat? (1)

kiehlster (844523) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344383)

"Are you saying I'm fat?" breeds a whole new meaning.

"Old Guy" Masks Flying Off Shelves in Japan (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21344401)

Why the sudden spike in sales of "old guy" masks? How could these stories be related?

If this was the USA... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21344493)

The kid who was denied the chance to buy cigarettes would just go buy some weed.

Whats next? (4, Funny)

Matt867 (1184557) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344495)

Whats next? A machine that calculates your weight based on a picture it takes of you and if it deems you obese refuses to sell you a coke?

Re:Whats next? (1)

enoz (1181117) | more than 6 years ago | (#21345409)

Better yet, it gives you a Diet Coke instead.

a simple mask (1)

wonkobeeblebrox (983151) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344505)

what prevents a kid from fashioning a mask (aka: buying cigs 'halloween style') that resembles an older person and then buying the cigs from the machine?

Smoking ages you (1)

Joebert (946227) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344527)

Don't most people who smoke look alot older than they are anyways ?

When I was a kid & smoked, all my friends & I looked older than we actually were because we'd started smoking when we were about 13.

Re:Smoking ages you (1)

Khyber (864651) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344673)

Yup. I'm 25 and I look damn-near 35 thanks to smoking.

A plus, though. I can attract most any hot MILF within seconds (always fun to screw with the other guys.) Minus? I'm gay, so it doesn't really affect me (even more fun, they know I'm gay and they still can't get the girl from me.)

Re:Smoking ages you (1)

Joebert (946227) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344769)

It's payback for when the guys slapped eachothers asses & said "Good Game !" on the way to the shower during college isn't it ?

Re:Smoking ages you (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21345119)

Oblig. Hans Moleman: "Drinking has ruined my life. I'm 31 years old!"

Quite a trick for women. (3, Funny)

psoriac (81188) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344573)

As far as I can tell, Japanese women between the ages of 14 and 32 all look the same age.

Re:Quite a trick for women. (2, Insightful)

Zephyr14z (907494) | more than 6 years ago | (#21345103)

How did an obviously racist comment get modded +3 informative? Funny, maybe, but informative?

Re:Quite a trick for women. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21345737)

He did qualify it with "as far as I can tell."

Re:Quite a trick for women. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21345849)

Because Japanese women and girls are cute.

In Muppet Russia (1)

Michael Woodhams (112247) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344681)

vending machine [wikia.com] gives face to you!

Here is a marketing idea (4, Funny)

CrazyJim1 (809850) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344751)

Put a Vending Machine with masks of old people in it next to it. Intelligent kids can buy cigs for their friends and make a profit too. Everyone wins.

In other news... (1)

Sperlock (108578) | more than 6 years ago | (#21344899)

Teenage boys let out a sigh of relief that the used panties machine would not be affected.

Not my face you don't. (1)

Ranzear (1082021) | more than 6 years ago | (#21345027)

So how long until everyone just carries a photo of their grandfather? Or just puts on the classic Nixon mask?

How easy is it to fool? (1)

Phrogz (43803) | more than 6 years ago | (#21345307)

Separate from how accurate it is under normal circumstances, I wonder:
  • Could you hold a photograph over your face and fool it?
  • Could a wee bit of make up (dark lines along particular areas) change its opinion of where your bones are?

What about the Greg Oden factor? (1)

Viperion (569692) | more than 6 years ago | (#21345343)

You know, 19 year olds that look like they're 40? Does he get carded?

Barak Obama mask (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21345393)

I'll just put on my Barak Obama mask when I want to buy a pack of cigs.
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