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What If Gmail Had Been Designed by Microsoft?

CmdrTaco posted more than 6 years ago | from the thank-god-we-could-all-standardize-on-ie7 dept.

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caluml writes "There is a humourous look at "What would happen if Microsoft had designed GMail". Gems include: "Another security measurement we'll add is that you won't be able to log-in with just username anymore but are required to enter the full username@gmail.com. Furthermore, we will change the browser URL from 'http://gmail.microsoft.com/' to the more professional looking 'http://by114w.bay114.gmail.live.com/mail/mail.aspx?rru=home'.""

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279 comments

Yahoo (5, Funny)

pieisgood (841871) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471157)

I think they meant Yahoo.

Re:Yahoo (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21471325)

I thought they meant News for Nerds and Stuff that Matters, but clearly not, judging by this article.

Hotmail...? (3, Insightful)

LingNoi (1066278) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471165)

I RTFA a little and this sounds like a dumb question which has already been answered by just looking at hotmail. Sure they didn't design hotmail from the beginning but they have been maintaining it longer then Google has with GMail.

Re:Hotmail...? (1)

Fackamato (913248) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471191)

Well yeah, but it doesn't change the fact that Hotmail sucks and gmail owns it ;> OTOH, I don't know how many "customers" Hotmail has compared to gmail, but it has to be more, right? With all these MSN Messenger users... (yeah I know you can use a gmail email as a passport.net (or whatever it is) account and use that with messenger, but not everyone knows that)

Re:Hotmail...? (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471397)

I use Jabber for IM, but I signed up for a hotmail account back when you needed one for MSN Messenger so I had an account I could use via the transport (I had just been using ICQ before then). Hotmail disables your account if you don't log in for 60 days though, so I didn't have a working Hotmail account after that brief period.

Re:Hotmail...? (1)

Joe Jay Bee (1151309) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471523)

yeah I know you can use a gmail email as a passport.net (or whatever it is) account and use that with messenger,

Not any more. Before I used msn@joe-baldwin.net or somesuch, but one day I got a message at sign in telling me I had to either get a Hotmail account or change my Passport to something under the messengeruser.com domain (e.g. joebaldwin@messengeruser.com is the one i picked).

I suppose it makes sense; it allows me to give out my MSN information in places that are obscenely public (like, oh, say, Slashdot) and not worry about 12 trillion spam messages. ;)

Re:Hotmail...? (1)

genaldar (1118197) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471743)

I have used my gmail for messenger since I got it a couple of years ago. I have never been forced to switch it. And before that I used my yahoo account for messenger for a couple of years. You must've been singled out for a fucking.

Re:Hotmail...? (1)

Joe Jay Bee (1151309) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471885)

Sorta. After a quick google, seems like it's a corporate messaging thing, and since I use Microsoft Messenger (MS' pisspoor hybrid corporate/personal client for the Mac) it might have singled me out. Never know. :/

Re:Hotmail...? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21471771)

Hooray for anecdotal evidence. I've been signing in to Messenger with a non-MS Passport address for at least a year, multiple times a day (usually at least twice a day on different machines). I've never seen that message. You sure you haven't just been successfully phished? ;-)

Re:Hotmail...? (1)

Blkdeath (530393) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471975)

Not any more. Before I used msn@joe-baldwin.net or somesuch, but one day I got a message at sign in telling me I had to either get a Hotmail account or change my Passport to something under the messengeruser.com domain (e.g. joebaldwin@messengeruser.com is the one i picked).

I've been using my @Yahoo.com e-mail address as my MSN passport forever. Basically I signed up for MSN a while ago because, hey, everybody uses it {sigh} and in my old {cough} age I now prioritize the ability to communicate with people over and above the dusty 'ol soapbox. However I cancelled my Hotmail account the day Microsoft bought it out and I refuse to get a new one.

As somebody else suggested, you may have been singled out, or they may have put a baited hook out there and you chomped on it. On and off I've seen mysterious login failures and other peculiarities that made me think it would be easier to just get a Hotmail account and a proper Passport ID but lo and behold another try or two and I was logged in anyways.

I think it also helps that I don't use their official client on any platform so it makes it more difficult for them to turn the screws. MSN for me is nothing more than an address book and a protocol and I'm quite happy with my arrangement.

Lurk more, dickhead (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21471447)

The foot icon means it's supposed to be funny.

Re:Lurk more, dickhead (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21471613)

It's not funny. This isn't 4chan, go away.

Re:Hotmail...? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21471941)

But what if slashdot didnt publish the most uninteresting news from last week?

Hm.. (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21471167)

Another one of these eh?

Sort of like if Microsoft designed the iPod box?

Re:Hm.. (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21471379)

Imagine what it would be like if Microsoft designed Windows!

Re:Hm.. (3, Funny)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471435)

Ummm, that was exactly the joke that the article ended with: Coming up tomorrow: "What if Microsoft had designed Windows Vista." Stay tuned!

Re:Hm.. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21471709)

This is Slashdot, you know - we're not supposed to read the articles ;)

They have design a webmail site... (2, Insightful)

MLCT (1148749) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471175)

...it is called hotmail, and was (at least when I last was last there 4 years ago) a disaster zone, which included a page as part of the signup process where you were given the choice of what kind of junk mail you wanted emailed to you.

Re:They have design a webmail site... (1)

arktemplar (1060050) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471283)

Actually they didn't design it, this bloke called Sabeer Bhatia did it. They bought it out and then redid it all.

Re:They have design a webmail site... (2, Informative)

MLCT (1148749) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471511)

They bought it 10 years ago - and I was talking about 4 years ago.

Re:They have design a webmail site... (5, Insightful)

h4rm0ny (722443) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471589)


Correct me if I'm wrong (as if people wouldn't), but doesn't the Gmail system scan your emails so that it can send you targetted ads? Doesn't that make taking the piss out of Microsoft's security a lot hypocritical?

Re:They have design a webmail site... (5, Informative)

ChrisMP1 (1130781) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471955)

They scan your emails and show non-obtrusive targeted ads off to the side, whereas Hotmail floods your inbox with crap mail, obscuring the mail that you actually want to see.

Re:They have design a webmail site... (5, Funny)

howdoesth (1132949) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471973)

I guess, but doesn't Microsoft's hotmail system also "scan your emails" to put them into TCP packets?

Re:They have design a webmail site... (4, Interesting)

Ash Vince (602485) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471993)

Doesn't that make taking the piss out of Microsoft's security a lot hypocritical?
Not for those of use with long memories. I remember that at one point someone worked out you could log in to any Hotmail acccount just by changing the querystring. It did not ask you for a password. This was a collosal fuckup that never should have happened. Here is a link for those who have forgotten:

http://www.news.com/2100-1023-230411.html [news.com]

Since I heard about this and followed Microsofts response I made a mental note to never get a Hotmail account.

As for scanning my emails to show me targeted adverts I don't really mind this providing the information is not sold on to other companies.

Simple (0)

ILuvRamen (1026668) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471177)

Well duh, it would be MMail lol. Or Microsoft + e-mail = MeMail and they could have a little dancing leprochaun cuz it sounds Irish. But really they'd probably just sneak in a stealth windows update that removes Outlook and re-routes your home page to their mail site. And in case you don't believe me, at my work we're having a problem with IE7. Microsoft somehow snuck some sort of adware onto the computers that will randomly once in a while load up the Get It Now page for IE7 instead of the actual homepage. It doesn't get any more adware than that. Since the homepage is our important intranet hub, we're considering suing.

ieupdate (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471473)

Microsoft somehow snuck some sort of adware onto the computers that will randomly once in a while load up the Get It Now page for IE7 instead of the actual homepage.
It's not exactly adware. If you watch the URLs that it loads on the way there, you'll see "ieupdate" in a couple of them, which makes me thing it's just periodically checking for updates. And no, I don't know how to disable it within Internet Explorer. But I haven't seen it since I installed Opera on one machine and Firefox on the other.

Re:Simple (2, Informative)

eknraw (1193971) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471541)

Can't you just uncheck the "Automatically check for Internet Explorer updates" to stop the redirecting? I think IE is missing some patching and it wants you to update. I remember running into this all the way back with IE 5.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/222639 [microsoft.com]

Or you should be able to disable this in group policy: Computer Configuration -> Administrative Templates -> Windows Components -> Internet Explorer -> Enable "Disable Periodic Check for Internet Explorer Software Updates".

Didn't see anything in the User Configuration but that doesn't mean that it's not hidden somewhere and I missed it.

the reason you have to put the @ (4, Informative)

SirSmiley (845591) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471181)

The reason you put the username@hotmail.com is because there is also msn.com msn.ca for the ISP subscribers... hotmail.com hotmail.co.uk etc etc...would be rather limiting if you could only use your nickname and not have different domains......it is probably the worlds biggest web mail service...

why is this news? slllooww news day

Re:the reason you have to put the @ (1)

nuckin futs (574289) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471235)

so what about gmail and yahoo? do you see them doing that @ thing? they seem to work fine, and they have users logging in from around the world.

Re:the reason you have to put the @ (1, Informative)

Aladrin (926209) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471269)

On GMail you have to add the domain name to the URL instead if you have a non-gmail.com address. While it's trivial for me to remember the URL, -all- of the non-techies in our company have issues with it and I have to just bookmark it for them. Having them remember their full email address would be quite a bit easier, since they already do.

Re:the reason you have to put the @ (1)

BlackPignouf (1017012) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471335)

But at least they could default it to @hotmail.com !!!!

Re:the reason you have to put the @ (4, Insightful)

wikinerd (809585) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471543)

The reason you put the username@hotmail.com is because there is also msn.com msn.ca for the ISP subscribers... hotmail.com hotmail.co.uk etc etc

So perhaps they should make it aware of the URL the user types in the browser... if I visit by typing msn.com and I login with the @msn.com email, but if I type hotmail.co.uk then my mail login will be @hotmail.co.uk

Re:the reason you have to put the @ (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21471857)

Hotmail also handles email for all of the Office Live domains. I use multiple domains through Live Mail, and all of them have the smae username with a different domain.

While funny ... (4, Insightful)

DerWulf (782458) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471189)

I actually like the previewing pane in outlook XP. Emails are usually around three to five lines. Why should I have to open a new window or navigate to a new page for reading them?

Re:While funny ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21471371)

Considering mail clients have had preview panes for well over a decade, I really don't see what the point of your post is.

Re:While funny ... (1)

that this is not und (1026860) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471433)

I like the previewing pane in Sylpheed. I liked the one in Netscape's email component, too, back when I used that.

oh. you're one of *those*.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21471441)

How about a simple tooltip so that if you hover over a message you see it's content? Or... maybe hover over a message and the preview opens up and closes when your mouse leaves that area. Or... maybe a *real* preview pane where any folder you are in is shown in a different preview-active pane/tab? There is so much more Microsoft could do with preview than just on/off, and when ON, most of your message real estate is gobbled by just enough that you don't know what the h311 the message really says.

it's not all bad... (1)

icebrain (944107) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471721)

Personally, I'd like to see emails split up individually instead of in "message threads." I work best that way.

I also like the preview pane, too.

Re:While funny ... (1)

w.hamra1987 (1193987) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471823)

Well , why would you have to open a new window? use thunderbird, the best email client available, outlook sucks

Re:While funny ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21471969)

Well , why would you have to open a new window? use thunderbird, the best email client available, outlook sucks
You must have really low standards. The best I could rate Thunderbird would be "it sucks a bit less than the others, but it's still horrible".

Re:While funny ... (3, Insightful)

GrBear (63712) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471911)

There's plenty of reasons why a preview pane is a 'bad idea'. Ever remember a certain OS, with a certain bundled graphics library that would allow someone to infect your computer with a carefully crafted embedded image file? Now display that image immediately before the user can delete the email, oh shi...

How long will it take for hackers to find out other ways into your system via instantly displayed non-text elements?

Thank you very much, but I'll keep auto-preview turned off.

Gmail does it right imho.. it displays a snippet of the first sentence, more than enough for me to tell if it's worth opening when the subject/sender is questionable.

Re:While funny ... (1)

freeweed (309734) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471995)

There's plenty of reasons why a preview pane is a 'bad idea'. Ever remember a certain OS, with a certain bundled graphics library that would allow someone to infect your computer with a carefully crafted embedded image file?

No, the problem there is not with the preview pane. The problem is with your software executing image content as code.

Gmail does it right imho.. it displays a snippet of the first sentence, more than enough for me to tell if it's worth opening when the subject/sender is questionable.

Well, considering that malware has been emailing itself from your friends' address books for nearly a decade now, the "questionable sender" comment is entirely meaningless. And unless you have an incredibly tiny circle of predictable friends, it's hard to know whether a subject line is sketchy or not.

Beyond "1ncr3453 ur s153", I guess... those don't tend to have malware attached.

Incidentally, one reason gmail DOES rock and could easily have a preview pane - it doesn't display images by default. You have the opportunity to read the body of the email before deciding to load them. One of the coolest email features I've ever seen. Saves a ton of time loading graphics from stupid servers.

The guy lost me at the require username@gmail.com (1)

CCosby (1100665) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471197)

I started to read into it but hell hotmail handles @hotmail.com and @msn.com so you need to type in what domain you are using. Other then that the newer interface for hotmail has gotten a lot better, just not as good as gmails.

Re:The guy lost me at the require username@gmail.c (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21471545)

GMail's interface can hardly be considered "good". Its performance is piss-poor on Firefox. It's a little bit better when using Opera, but Thunderbird is still a lot faster.

One thing I particularly hate is how I have to go to a new page just to view a message. The split mailbox listing and message display layout of Thunderbird, Outlook, Netscape Communicator, Mail.app and other real desktop apps is so much more efficient.

Re:The guy lost me at the require username@gmail.c (1)

BrentH (1154987) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471661)

99% percent of the users of hotmail.com will use hotmail.

Slashdot (5, Funny)

the_Bionic_lemming (446569) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471203)

Hey, now that we had this, Can we have a "What would Slashdot look like if someone artistic designed it" Page?

Re:Slashdot (3, Interesting)

Devv (992734) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471297)

I would like someone to make a website with gravitation so that everything will be sucked down to the bottom of the browser. Then you have to drag one item up at the time to look at it. Articles with the most comments would be the heaviest and be at the bottom of the pile.

Re:Slashdot (0, Troll)

Joe Jay Bee (1151309) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471683)

Yes, but the editors would rather like to keep Slashdot a purely metaphorical shitheap.

Impossible (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21471347)

This will never happen because if anybody artistic got within ten feet of Slashdot, they'd spontaneously combust.

Re:Slashdot (4, Funny)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471411)

Forget artistic, how about a 'What would Slashdot look like if someone designed it' page?

Re:Slashdot gmail (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21471427)

More like: what if gmail were designed by slashdot?
1) Strange, fixed "color" scheme;
2) Cluttered, but oddly comforting and hyperconfigurable, user interface (except the colors);
3) Random in-joke-based poll every 18 months;
4) Almost usable search engine;
5) People who want to contact you first email editors who then "approve" or "reject" incoming emails based on their personal taste;
6) Arbitrarily assign other users to read your email and act as moderators;
7) AC option gives spammers a fair shot (albeit at a lower mod base) -- don't forget to check AC before emailing something really stupid like this post;

You know, it just might work!

Re:Slashdot gmail (4, Funny)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471497)

Don't forget the "I am willing to test Gmail's new mail interface" checkbox that brings up a clusterfuck of an interface designed by a retarded 11 year old. Although, admittedly, it has improved since they first put the checkbox there.

Re:Slashdot (1)

4D6963 (933028) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471479)

Can we have a "What would Slashdot look like if someone artistic designed it" Page?

It's already been done [slashdot.org] and implemented, and [slashdot.org] if [slashdot.org] I [slashdot.org] was [slashdot.org] one [slashdot.org] of [slashdot.org] the [slashdot.org] guys [slashdot.org] who [slashdot.org] participated [slashdot.org] I'd be pretty pissed at your comment.

Re:Slashdot (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21471551)

Ahhh, yes, design by committee. That's always the best way to go, especially when the committee has shown time and time again that they know absolutely nothing about interface design.

Re:Slashdot (1)

4D6963 (933028) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471807)

Ahhh, yes, design by committee.

Exactly! Except that it's not design by committee at all.

Re:Slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21471687)

While we are at it can we have a "What Linux would look like if someone artistic designed it"

Re:Slashdot (1)

GuldKalle (1065310) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471761)

Pink and full of ponies?

And what if Abble designed it (1, Troll)

El Lobo (994537) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471217)

Well, if Abble had designed it:

* It will be named iMail (duh)

* It would tell you that you need to sign for .mak to use it (duh)

* It would have only one button (which would do ant function, receive, send, attach)

* It would be that "kool and pretty"(TM) that instead on a mail site you,d though that you are in teletubby land with silver colors

* It would have iPhone compatibility but forget about the other players

* It would save "It just works" even when you have no ineternet connection

* When some problems arise, they would , of course , blame MS.

* Everybody on /. would praise it even if they limited it to 1 MB/month amd send the letters DRMed :-)

Re:And what if Abble designed it (0, Troll)

powermacx (887715) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471317)

No need to guess, this is what it would have looked like:
http://www.mac.com/1/webmail.html [mac.com]

Re:And what if Abble designed it (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21471327)

Exactly... I DESPISE Apple's culture even more than I hate M$.

Re:And what if Abble designed it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21471425)

I think you meant "cult" up there where you said "culture".

Re:And what if Abble designed it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21471905)

Nahh... I mean culture. i HATE all things Apple, the way they implement everything, theit cuteness, their disfunctionatlity, their closeness... Everything...

OS (1)

El Lobo (994537) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471487)

Well, the article is a humorous article about MS and what if...

Well, parent writes the same humorours article but abbout "never do wrong" apple.. and gess what? Parent get moderated flamebait... Go figure....

Re:OS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21471705)

Your post was hardly humorous. Saying that it is lame is charitable.

Re:And what if Abble designed it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21471671)

I'm curious. When you speak with people do you get a lot of blank stares?

What if...... (2, Funny)

3seas (184403) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471223)

... there were no more what if stories?

Re:What if...... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21471393)

I have just the machine for that, but it's over there, pass me my finglonger.

Re:What if...... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21471795)

What if Linux had been a success?
What if Google had been here 15 years ago?
What if Linux had been into the gaming market 15 years ago like they are trying now?
What if the Open Source people had actually made a competing Office 15 years ago?

What if the Linux users hadn't been so worried about running it on a toaster?

You mean what if Gmail had been designed for... (4, Insightful)

defile (1059) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471225)

The mass market instead of early adopters?

Re:You mean what if Gmail had been designed for... (1)

Threni (635302) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471583)

I don't understand. Gmail was designed for the mass market, which is why it's more powerful yet simpler and more easy to use. Microsoft just doesn't understand the internet at all. Practically none of its products use the internet in any interesting way (except perhaps emailing bug reports and trying to catch pirates), except for the woeful Internet Explorer. Google started as an `internet company` and will only get more and more powerful. Here's hoping that Firefox 3 and Google apps is a credible threat to Microsoft, forcing them to genuinely innovate or have market share slowly sucked away from them.

Re:You mean what if Gmail had been designed for... (1)

MBHkewl (807459) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471897)

What about GMail's offer to businesses? Isn't that "TheMass Market" you speak of?

If you haven't noticed, Google still has "beta" over GMail, yet it's more usable than Hotmail and easier to navigate around. MS releases its products to the masses for beta testing, while it flag them "production quality"

From personal experience, Google delivers to businesses (and masses) what it promises, and it does it well.

new gmail vs new hotmail (2)

natenovs (1055338) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471243)

so, the new gmail looks an awful lot like the new hotmail. its a hell of a lot slower too.

Moogle? (3, Funny)

Taagehornet (984739) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471249)

Another modern classic: What if Google search had been designed by the guys behind Windows Search

"Award for the Silliest User Interface: Windows Search" [secretgeek.net]

Re:Moogle? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21471323)

I think there is a subliminal message in that Moogle thing and their mascot. A Holstein cow with horns and udders? Is this the search engine for transsexuals?

Yeah... Seen this joke before, except funny (2)

91degrees (207121) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471251)

Okay... It was funny when they did the iPod one. But GMail? It's an adequate web page. Not fundamentally different from any other webmail provider out there. A bit like Hotmail really except uglier.

Re:Yeah... Seen this joke before, except funny (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21471343)

It's an ok interface...

Except for the fact that they hide the needed NEW button, as a non button.

They need to keep it understandable, THEN pretty.

Re:Yeah... Seen this joke before, except funny (1)

Tim Browse (9263) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471619)

Ha, good one. I use GMail, and every so often I have to go and look at my Hotmail account (it's my login for MSN Messenger), and every time I do it irritates the living fuck out of me. That's not what I look for in a webmail system.

An Ad is an Ad but No Ad is better (1)

mm05 (856966) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471281)

I do not get the annoying right frame banner while reading an email message in live.com/hotmail. So live.com email has less Ads than Gmail. This is amazing enough and I wish Gmail was showing less adds (either targeted or not).
Note: live.com is not my favorite email for other reasons :) but it is just better for the user about ads.

About 8 cm! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21471289)

"Security measurement"???

What If Gmail Had Been Designed by Microsoft? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21471295)

Yeah yeah, typical slashdot OMG M$ SO FUNNY bullshit. We get it, /., LOLZ M$ R SO RETARDED DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS. How's Linux on the desktop coming along? Still 0.03% marketshare?

Thanks for wasting the 2 seconds of my life it took to realize this was just another round of jealous adolescent sniggering at your elders and betters.

Re: What If Gmail Had Been Designed by Microsoft? (2, Funny)

Dunbal (464142) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471305)

I laugh at your feeble attempt at a troll.

Re: What If Gmail Had Been Designed by Microsoft? (0, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21471369)

Laughing at a troll is also falling for it. No matter what your response to a troll actually IS, the very fact you post a response shows YHBT. Enjoy! :-)

Re: What If Gmail Had Been Designed by Microsoft? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21471459)

I chuckle at your psuedo-rebellious FITE DA POWA reasons for choosing your operating system.

When you get a little older, you'll realise that in the real world we go on ease of use and corporate support instead of the '1337' of having to research arcane commands to do the simplest of things (see the article about the $200 PC running gOS, a Linux that not even Google's billions could improve, where you still have to type 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree' into a terminal to watch videos on Youtube.)

So laugh away, little boy. I'll carry on using my high-performance industry-standard software backed by the biggest player in the market, while you giggle at me through your retainer as you search through your 132nd obscure forum of the day trying to work out what command you have to type to be able to see those wonderful, fantastical videos of what it's like to actually go outside.

Re: What If Gmail Had Been Designed by Microsoft? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21471921)

> where you still have to type 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree' into a terminal to watch videos on Youtube.

Working out of the box on Ubuntu 7.10. Try to keep up.

Re: What If Gmail Had Been Designed by Microsoft? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21471935)

Ooh... did vista hurt you so much you now have to rationalize your choice like that? "High-performance industry-standard software backed by the biggest player in the market?" Whoa, it must hurt.

Dude. I never knew. I promise I won't giggle at you. Not even if you get a virus, or the biggest player in the market calls you a pirate and disables your industry standard software.

Cheers.

Web design (1)

Wonko the Sane (25252) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471333)

The comments page for that article links to a much more interesting article [bokardo.com] .

Nothing beats the original (2, Informative)

apankrat (314147) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471475)

Microsoft iPod [youtube.com]

clippy (1)

wikinerd (809585) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471515)

You wouldn't write an email without being subjected to Clippy's continued demands for attention by jumping all over your screen screaming "click on me! click on me!!"

Re:clippy (1)

AuntieWillow (1188799) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471673)

Would it be wrong of me to say I kept calling my last boyfriend "Clippy" during inappropriate moments?
Dang I carried a torch for that helpful little paper clip.

Re:clippy (1)

Loganscomputer (1176841) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471727)

I know we like to hold onto our gripes for a long long time against micro$oft but hasn't it been 4 or 5 years since that little guy was turned on by default? I think this joke is dead and buried. Of course, most of us are still sore about windows 98 and ME so I can understand the latent hostility.

LOL! What would a Microsoft owned Slashdot be like (1)

Doug52392 (1094585) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471519)

Funny stuff! Not suprising to! Which gets me to think, what if Slashdot was owned by Microsoft?

Actually if MS had designed it (1, Funny)

AuntieWillow (1188799) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471641)

Every new e-mail would be larger than the one before, open slower, and eventually stop supporting your printer.
Oh! And spam would open itself for you!

*Oh, and yes, I do program using MS. Eh, it's a living

blame marketing droids (4, Insightful)

owlnation (858981) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471647)

To be fair to MS, they are only doing what most large Corporation do -- listen to their Marketing Department. Yahoo, eBay, many others, are much worse.

This is a primary failing. One that Google, miraculously, seems to have so far avoided. Full credit is due.

Marketing depts make two mistakes.
  1. (and foremost) They ask people what they want. They convene a focus group of a cross section of people, brainstorm and come up with a list of priorities. The issues with this being that most people don't know what they want, no committee ever came up with anything minimalist, functional or streamlined, and most people in a focus group are only statistically representative -- but not representative in reality.
  2. They have no understanding of pure Economics. They attempt to maximize revenue from everything up to the point that function is destroyed and satisfaction is lost. Thereby devaluing the product.
Apple and Google are far more successful than many other similar brands. They value function and form. This is why they are successful. This why they have fanboys. It's not rocket science, all you need to do is fire the marketing droids out of the nearest airlock.

What if.... (5, Funny)

onosson (1107107) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471657)

there were no interesting stories, so someone posted some tired microsoft-bashing article instead?
Oh...

Ob (1)

Edie O'Teditor (805662) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471745)

What if they'd designed slashdot?

Developed not Designed (1)

WebmasterNeal (1163683) | more than 6 years ago | (#21471827)

It's funny how you use the word designed rather than developed. The interface (as with most google apps) looks really plain and boring. It looks like a high schooler designed it. Also to counter your annoying url redirect I was redirected here after typing in gmail.com: https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=mail&passive=true&rm=false&continue=http%3A%2F%2Fmail.google.com%2Fmail%2F%3Fui%3Dhtml%26zy%3Dl&ltmpl=default&ltmplcache=2 [google.com] Yahoo, in my opinion is the best online email.

simple (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21471933)

I would not be using it! Even more funny is the fact that my security imge word was "robbers" which is exactly how I feel about m-soft! How ironic.
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