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Scientists Create Zombie Cockroaches

Zonk posted more than 6 years ago | from the almost-as-good-as-'them' dept.

Biotech 243

Reservoir Hill writes "Zombie insects might sound like a B-movie plot device (quicktime video) but to the emerald cockroach wasp (Ampulex compressa), they're a tried and tested way to provide food for their hungry larvae. The wasp relies on cockroaches for its grisly life cycle but unlike many venomous predators, which paralyze their victims before eating them, the wasp's sting leaves the cockroach able to walk, but unable to initiate its own movement. Researchers have discovered that the wasps sting the cockroaches once to subdue them, then administer another, more precise sting right into their victim's brain. The venom works to block a neurotransmitter called octopamine with a similar action to dopamine, which is involved in preparations to execute complex behaviors such as walking. Then the wasp grabs the cockroach's antenna and leads it back to the nest 'like a dog on a leash', says one researcher. The team found that they could restore spontaneous walking behavior in stung cockroaches by giving them a compound that reactivates octopamine receptors in the insects' central nervous system. Researchers were also able to create their own zombies by injecting unstung cockroaches with a compound that blocks the receptors producing a similar effect to that of the venom."

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Credit where credit is due... (5, Funny)

bruins01 (992422) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530003)

The title should read: Emerald Cockroach Wasps Create Zombie Cockroaches, Scientists Notice

Re:Credit where credit is due... (2, Insightful)

jacquesm (154384) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530069)

as if humans would ever take the credit for things found in nature...

Re:Credit where credit is due... (1)

youthoftoday (975074) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530613)

we are found in nature... ?

Re:Credit where credit is due... (2, Insightful)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530887)

Right, they usually blame some deity for it.

Re:Credit where credit is due... (5, Insightful)

Plutonite (999141) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530087)

This is the most awesome thing I've read in some time. In highly complex behaviors like these, I often wonder how the hell the evolutionary development [of the wasp] proceeded in order for the organism to deal with its prey like that. Not just one carefully administered sting, but two, then drags it home as if it knows what it just did. Hot damn.

Re:Credit where credit is due... (2, Insightful)

FredDC (1048502) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530153)

The smallest creatures on this planet offer some of the most interesting behavioral patterns to study. I've always been fascinated with bees, ants, ... The solutions that nature has come up with for what appear to be impossible tasks are simply astounding!

Re:Credit where credit is due... (2, Funny)

ozmanjusri (601766) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530309)

I've always been fascinated with bees, ants

Hawk moth pupae?

Re:Credit where credit is due... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21530333)

in b4 god did it.

Re:Credit where credit is due... (5, Informative)

stranger_to_himself (1132241) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530415)

For more insect related awesomeness the BBC made Life in the Undergrowth [bbc.co.uk] a documentary series presented by David Attenborough. There's some really incredible stuff in there. Wasps especially seem to have evolved lots of these rather sinister behaviours.

Re:Credit where credit is due... (4, Interesting)

DerWulf (782458) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530421)

It is highly complex but if you watch the video it becomes appearant that any form of sedation would have been an evolutionary advantage so the path could have been strength (wrestle the cockroach 'till it dies) > sedation > mind control. Once reduced to simple steps such complex behaviour is still awesome but less mind-boggling :-D

Re:Credit where credit is due... (1)

olman (127310) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530455)

And chime in short lifespan + great numbers and loooooong time.

This is just one species of wasp with one specific cocroach (works on other insects too?) whereas great many species of wasps did not make the leap from "paralyze -> chew and/or drag on your own"

Heck, spiders have nice living food storage thing going..

Re:Credit where credit is due... (1)

rasputin465 (1032646) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530507)

(wrestle the [creature] 'till it dies) > sedation > mind control

well I, for one, welcome our new mind-controlling wasp overlords!

Re:Credit where credit is due... (1)

porpnorber (851345) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530457)

Wow! So that proves that God is made of cake!

Sorry, sorry.

Zombie ants are cooler (5, Interesting)

jordyhoyt (1013713) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530463)

If you find this amazing, check out the wikipedia article on these amazing parasites [wikipedia.org] !

Re:Zombie ants are cooler (1)

somersault (912633) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530615)

"Most of the cercariae encyst in the haemocoel of the ant and mature into metacercariae, but one moves to the sub-esophageal ganglion (a cluster of nerve cells underneath the esophagus). There, the fluke takes control of the ant's actions by manipulating these nerves."

o_0 that's insane. I was wondering if it would just be an article someone made up, though there is an external link (which someone else could have made up, but it seems less likely).

Re:Zombie ants are cooler (1)

jordyhoyt (1013713) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530685)

yeah, a google search [google.com] reveals several other sites discussing the "Fluke". it's amazing how it serves to keep the grass population up by making the cows wary of the longer, greener stuff. awesome! apparently it can infect (inhabit? i don't know parasite terminology) dogs and sheep too.

Re:Credit where credit is due... (5, Interesting)

140Mandak262Jamuna (970587) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530923)

A simpler form of this behavior was observed by Charles Darwin. Wasps laying eggs on live caterpillars which were eaten alive by wasp larvae! That convinced Darwin that no moral, just, fair God would design such a system. It was one of his motivations in seeking natural explanations for behavior of animals. Darwin wanted to plug the hole, "I am bad because God designed me to be bad and sinful" defense for the sinners. Because if Paley's watchmaker God was true, then every immoral behavior is a designed behavior, specifically created by God. It is ironic that present day fundies paint Darwin in the darkest hue.

The evolution is easily explained. Wasps sting and kill cockroaches and lay an egg on the dead roach to provide ready food for their larvae. Some wasps had less potent venom, strong enough to paralyze but taking longer to kill. These roaches would stay alive longer and provide better, less rotten bodies for the larvae. Now you can see the selection mechanism, give it a few million years and a billion generations, you can see behavior that is incredible.

Re:Credit where credit is due... (4, Informative)

StrawberryFrog (67065) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530245)

Almost, it should be: "Emerald Cockroach Wasps Create Zombie Cockroaches, Scientists Imitate".

From the blurb above:
Researchers were also able to create their own zombies by injecting unstung cockroaches with a compound

Re:Credit where credit is due... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21530485)

I always thought zombies are re-animated dead people.

These poor cockroaches weren't killed, just paralyzed then manipulated. (Then eaten alive, yikes.)

What's the definition of zombie? (Not computers but the real thing. Or am I splitting hairs?)

Though I vaguely recall some old story with perhaps the original use of the word "Zombie", from Haiti where voodoo/santoria priests gained control of (living) people. So maybe Sam Raimi and other documentary shooters just perverted the idea.

Implications? (1, Funny)

JoeInnes (1025257) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530005)

What would this mean for humans? Is it possible to do this to us? If so, this could be the new date rape drug. Oh yeah, and I suppose it needs to be done: I, for one, welcome our new zombie cockroach overlords.

Re:Implications? (3, Funny)

slyn (1111419) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530049)

I for one, welcome our new nuclear blast surviving Zombie Cockroaches.

I hear those are what "I am Legend" is about.

Re:Implications? (5, Funny)

SetupWeasel (54062) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530101)

Will Smith is not a zombie cockroach. He is a Scientologist. I may be splitting hairs here, but there is a difference.

Re:Implications? (1)

scooter.higher (874622) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530277)

No...

He killed a giant cockroach in a movie.

He turned down the other roach:

http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2006/12/01/will_smith_turned_down_tom_cruise_s_invi [starpulse.com]

Re:Implications? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21530413)

Yeah, he doesn't get the antennae until OT7.

Re:Implications? (1)

nem75 (952737) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530501)

Will Smith is not a zombie cockroach. He is a Scientologist. I may be splitting hairs here, but there is a difference.

No, he just defends the beliefs of a personal friend of his (Cruise). Which still, as he states, are not his own. The claims of him having been "converted" (since Scientology is no religion but a "religion" it's impossible to write the "converted" without the quotes) came from an unnamed source.

I may be splitting hairs here, but... well, you know.

P.S.: yea, off-topic. So was parent. Sue me. Or us. Or him.

Re:Implications? (2, Funny)

rucs_hack (784150) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530409)

Well, this buggers my zombie plan

Re:Implications? (1)

MindKata (957167) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530183)

"What would this mean for humans? Is it possible to do this to us"

I was thinking that, could it be done? ... but then thinking about this line from the article, "administer another, more precise sting right into their victim's brain" ... it reminds me of watching Big Brother & other reality shows.

Re:Implications? (1)

Whiteox (919863) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530557)

Yes but we don't have antennae do we?

Re:Implications? (1)

muridae (966931) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530831)

Speak for your self.

Re:Implications? (1)

ozmanjusri (601766) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530323)

Is it possible to do this to us? If so, this could be the new date rape drug.

No, it doesn't work on humans.

However, if you were to find an attractive female cockroach...

Re:Implications? (1)

JoeInnes (1025257) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530595)

I'm not talking about the exact same combination of chemicals, but it'd surely be a relatively trivial matter (in medical terms) to get a needle into a brain, and administer a drug. Some kind of hallucinogenic, possibly, would have the effect of separating the mind and body?

Perhaps medically induced schizophrenia could cause a catatonic state (and incidentally protect the mind from the shock of being severed from the body), and an intelligent choice of drug to split the higher brain functions off from the body? I'm not a physician, but the theory seems okay to me?

Re:Implications? (2, Funny)

vegiVamp (518171) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530335)


You might do better to welcome your new emerald wasp overlords. If you're able to do so, that is.

Re:Implications? (1)

Walt Dismal (534799) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530757)

For god's sake, PLEASE don't tell my ex-wife about this, it'll make her even more efficient.

First thing I thought of was: (1, Funny)

xx01dk (191137) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530015)

the executive branch of our government for some reason...

Yup, mod me down for that one, I deserve it.

Re:First thing I thought of was: (4, Funny)

Misanthrope (49269) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530057)

Don't blame me I voted for zombie Lincoln.

Re:First thing I thought of was: (1)

c6gunner (950153) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530449)

Strange. First thing I thought of was the Daily KOS. To each their own, I guess...

Re:First thing I thought of was: (1)

smitty_one_each (243267) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530489)

I was thinking: "Scientists Shown Way Behind Legal System"

Eh? (5, Insightful)

fyngyrz (762201) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530021)

"Scientists create Zombie Cockroaches"

Yes, and then we elect them. Wake me up when the system changes.

Re:Eh? (5, Funny)

PietjeJantje (917584) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530411)

Ford Prefect, talking to Arthur Dent about an immense robot that came from a flying saucer (destroying a huge area including Harrods), and said "Take me to your Lizard.":

"It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see ..."

"You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?"

"No," said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and
coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee forced
down him, "nothing so simple. Nothing anything like so
straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders
are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the
people."

"Odd," said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy."

"I did," said Ford. "It is."

"So," said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse,
"why don't people get rid of the lizards?"

"It honestly doesn't occur to them," said Ford. "They've all got
the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government
they've voted in more or less approximates to the government they
want."

"You mean they actually vote for the lizards?"

"Oh yes," said Ford with a shrug, "of course."

"But," said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?"

"Because if they didn't vote for a lizard," said Ford, "the wrong
lizard might get in. Got any gin?"

Re:Eh? (1)

rasputin465 (1032646) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530535)

mod parent up

+1 quoting-perhaps-my-favorite-Douglas-Adams-passage

Deja Vu (5, Informative)

SetupWeasel (54062) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530031)

I can't believe I remembered this. [slashdot.org]

Re:Deja Vu (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21530175)

You, Sir, are the last 5 digit Slashdot reader who cares.

Do you remember the pre-politics times? I miss them so much. Today I delete RSS feeds as soon as I spot a "SCO" or "Jack Thompson" in the title of an item. Stories of that kind destroyed Slashdot when it was the #1.

Re:Deja Vu (1)

jacquesm (154384) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530211)

that's very impressive. is that a general thing or just this once ?

Re:Deja Vu (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21530549)

NOBODY forgets zombies. They're just too awesome.

How is this for deja vu (4, Interesting)

Daath (225404) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530581)

I remembered this [slashdot.org] , believe it or not. Almost 6 years to the day ;P Well, who's counting ;P

A new degree of Slashdotting... (2, Insightful)

AlXtreme (223728) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530041)

Linking a 40MB quicktime movie from Slashdot somehow doesn't seem like a very smart idea...

For the wasp this looks like a very useful move. Why haul your food when it can walk for you?

Actually that's how the political system works too (2, Insightful)

DaedalusHKX (660194) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530073)

Why rob people (which is a risky business when robbing men and women) when they can raise people as zombies, so they bravely volunteer themselves into servitude via taxation and voting for fixed choices. Top that off with voluntarily putting their young through zombification processes known as "free public schooling" (which isn't free but the zombies don't know that, so don't tell'em.)

Re:Actually that's how the political system works (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21530125)

Then one of those zombies discovers the huge plot and posts a breathtakingly trollish version of it on a public forum and ruins it for everybody. Somebody get me a glass of water.

Re:Actually that's how the political system works (2, Funny)

ZombieRoboNinja (905329) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530253)

Nicely crafted, but couldn't you have worked "sheeple" in there somewhere?

Re:Actually that's how the political system works (2, Funny)

ModMeFlamebait (781879) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530741)

Why rob people (...) when they can raise people as zombies,
And then you can Rob Zombie :)

Re:A new degree of Slashdotting... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21530325)

I'm confused. Is slashdot the wasp or the food...?

slashdotters arrested (4, Funny)

jacquesm (154384) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530081)

In other news, large hordes of nerds are being arrested all over the planet while injecting nubile females with what appears to be insect venom. Natalie Portman in intensive care after a severe allergic reaction.

That is blatant racism (2, Insightful)

SmallFurryCreature (593017) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530139)

When jocks inject large amounts of toxic liqued into women to get them to loose control over their bodies, that is just guys being guys, but when nerds do it "CALL THE COPS". For the humor impaired, alcohol is far easier to obtain in large doses then insect venom

I say enough is enough, we have to strike back. Revenge of the nerds!

Mmm, sounds like a good title for a movie, what is the number for hollywood?

Re:slashdotters arrested (1)

sowth (748135) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530551)

...and Paris Hilton was standing on top of a huge phallic symbol yelling: "Hey guys! Why didn't you pick me?!?" The nerd who captured Nicole Richie was found hours later, his brain encrusted with neurosyphilis [nih.gov] . Lindsey Lohan and Britney Spears were found in a closet "lezzing out" with some butch roaches. When prompted for a statment, they replied "this doesn't mean we're gay. They're not even the same species as us."

Zombies? (2, Interesting)

killmofasta (460565) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530133)

ok. Let me see? Which are the Zombie Cockroaches, and which are the scientists? Is there are demonstrateable diffrence? Are they both vying for press? Didn't Mabel, the cow, see little diffrence betweem the Pigs and the Humans in the end of "Animal Farm"

Must favor "unreasonably huge subsidies to the Zombie Cockroaches planet."

With Hunger, Global Warming and catostrophic ozone loss affecting the lives of billions, dont you think the scientests/Zombie Cockroaches have something better to do? Hmmm?

Re:Zombies? (1)

dltaylor (7510) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530179)

Science, some of it very, very old already did: it's called birth control. Can't get it practiced where and when it's needed most, though.

Re:Zombies? (2, Informative)

StuckInSyrup (745480) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530303)

With Hunger, Global Warming and catostrophic ozone loss affecting the lives of billions, dont you think the scientests/Zombie Cockroaches have something better to do? Hmmm?
Oh, I love comments like this.
"You are studying cockroaches, hm? Interesting. But MILLIONS are starving, are you going to feed them with cockroaches? Forget about your work, do something, HUMAN LIVES are on stake" ...and so on.
You know, there is this thing called fundamental research. You never know when data like this will be useful.

Re:Zombies? (1)

iainl (136759) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530445)

Yes, they've got something far better to do. Whine about stuff on Slashdot.

Re:Zombies? (1)

c6gunner (950153) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530471)

With Hunger, Global Warming and catostrophic ozone loss affecting the lives of billions, dont you think the scientests/Zombie Cockroaches have something better to do? Hmmm?
Are you sure that you're not a zombie cockroach?

Seriously, you're right. I think it's very unfortunate that there are some very intelligent people starving in the third world, while mindless overfed idiots like you continue to lead a carefree existence. If there were a God, he'd have switched you around ages ago.

Matthew 7:5 (1)

overshoot (39700) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530545)

With Hunger, Global Warming and catostrophic ozone loss affecting the lives of billions, dont you think the scientests/Zombie Cockroaches have something better to do? Hmmm?
With Hunger, Global Warming and catostrophic ozone loss affecting the lives of billions, dont you think you have something better to do than complaining about what others choose to do on Slashdot?

So many freaky parasites so little vomit left... (3, Interesting)

F34nor (321515) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530191)

This one freaks the shit out of me for some reason. http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=53 [damninteresting.com]

Quicktime? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21530193)

Since when did generic MPEG video become Quicktime video?

"Quicktime video"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21530213)

It's just an MPEG-2. (Scientists seem to be really fond of outdated encodings.) OK, I guess Apple Quicktime will play it. As any other video player will.

Well, I for one (4, Funny)

427_ci_505 (1009677) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530219)

Well, I for one am scared shitless of our new overlords.

Re:Well, I for one (1)

countincognito (741644) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530239)

I for one welcome our new waspy overlords, and their unstoppable army of mindless roach zombies.

Bah (1)

iminplaya (723125) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530231)

I get a girl drunk, grab her hair, lead her back to MY nest, plant my seed, and...well...I think you know the "rest of the story".

Re:Bah (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21530297)

... you wake up.

Re:Bah (1)

Boronx (228853) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530435)

Alas, the pill is your kind's undoing.

Re:Bah (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530937)

Yeah, yeah, tell me 'bout it... by the way, how far behind are you with your alimony payments?

Dupe (3, Informative)

sentientbrendan (316150) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530259)

http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/02/04/1649211 [slashdot.org]

I wish they'd just google for the old title... that would catch most of these dupes.

Re:Dupe (1)

scooter.higher (874622) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530313)

Not exactly a dupe... this time scientists were able to recreate the toxin.

Re:Dupe (1)

Sockatume (732728) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530709)

The new part of it is that the scientists have discovered a way to recover normal behaviour. I guess folks were too busy going "HOLY SHIT ZOMBIES" to notice.

Instead of headcrabs, 'headbees'? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21530293)

Brings a new horror to the unpopular mantra 'help i'm covered in bees!'.

Human Zombies (5, Interesting)

Miratus (1196407) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530331)

This reminds me of a bit of research done by the psychofarmacology department of the University of Rotterdam in the late eighties. They set out to discover if there was any substance to the reports from aid-workers and missionaries in Africa that 'zombies' were for real. Several well-documented cases existed, involving 'dead' individuals returning to their old villages, months or years after their burial, with only hazy memories of what happenend during their time away. With some help from anthropologists it was discovered that the 'zombies' were in fact poisoned with a complex witch-doctor mix of herbs and toxins, the only really important ingredient of which was a powerful neurotoxin of animal origin, which inhibited active thought and the forming of memories. The individual who was doused in this contact-poison would fall into a death-like coma soon afterwards. Then it was simply a matter of digging the body up fast and whacking it over the head a few times to get the person to wake up. If that failed (hitting the proper dosage is a bitch), the grave could be closed, no one the wiser. The 'lucky' ones woke up as addled 'zombies', with no will of their own and able to hear and obey simple instructions and could be sold as slaves. The toxin was recreated by science (without the unnecessary extra ingredients) and proved quite powerful when tested on lab-rats. The neurotoxin blocked key neural pathways, but turned out to be easily 'washed away' by a sufficiently large dose of Na+ ions, such as when the victim ingested common table-salt. Having proved that it there was a scientific truth to the zombie-myth, but finding no easy synthesis of the neurotoxin nor any medical use, the research group moved on. I was given their report while in high-school by one member of the team, who thought it was funny that I was VERY interested in this voodoo-zombie story that she had mentioned to me. I should go look up that report or contact her again for further details, but perhaps someone who is more skilled in research and farmacology can just pull this out of a database for all of us?

I for one welcome our new wasp overlords. (1)

martensitic (747168) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530343)

Actually, who am I kidding... even the zombie cockroaches could probably do a number on us these days.

Brains? (4, Funny)

FranklinDelanoBluth (1041504) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530375)

But do they eat brains? I don't think so. So, technically they're not zombies.

Re:Brains? (1)

maroberts (15852) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530395)

Actually the larvae will eat everything, brains included.

Re:Brains? (1)

MLease (652529) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530469)

But the cockroaches are the alleged zombies, not the (wasp) larvae. The cockroaches aren't eating brains, so the parent is right.

-Mike

Re:Brains? (1)

Darfeld (1147131) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530539)

Zombie are supposed to eat brain, not being eaten...

Good (2, Interesting)

ajs318 (655362) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530493)

This should serve once and for all to dispel the myth of a benevolent creator.

Re:Good (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21530857)

What evidence do you have that the cockroaches don't like it?

Alternatively, perhaps all cockroaches are Bush supporters.....

Re:Good (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530959)

Quite the opposite. I can already see the creationist bunch start ranting "See? Someone MUST have come up with that shit, nature CANNOT create such weird things itself."

Re:Good (4, Insightful)

One Childish N00b (780549) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530965)

This should serve once and for all to dispel the myth of a benevolent creator.

Alright, you've posted with your real account, which has no history of trolling, so either this is a genuine statement or you forgot to hit 'Post Anonymously'.

I have to ask, at the risk of being modded troll myself... why?

People have been doing worse things than this to one another for centuries, usually in the name of one God or another, and you are taking the existence of a zombie cockroach as your final proof of a Godless universe? Is there a justification here I'm just not seeing?

corepirate nazis create zombi population (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21530497)

?work?, buy, eat, video (hypenosys) & sleep. they do not look at/care about, each other (the opposite, in fact).

time to get real. the lights are coming up all over now.

rhetorical mindphuking micro management of populations has never worked (for very long). it's an illness. tie that with life0cidal aggression & gangster style bullying, & what do we have? a greed/fear/ego based recipe for disaster.

we're intending for the nazis to give up/fail even further, in attempting to control the 'weather'.

http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&q=video+cloud+spraying [google.com]

the creators will prevail. as it has always been.

corepirate nazi execrable costs outweigh benefits
(Score:-)mynuts won, the king is a fink)
by ourselves on everyday 24/7

as there are no benefits, just more&more death/debt & disruption.

fortunately there's an 'army' of angels, coming yOUR way

do not be afraid/dismayed, it is the way it was meant to be.

the little ones/innocents must/will be protected.

after the big flash, ALL of yOUR imaginary 'borders' may blur a bit?

for each of the creators' innocents harmed (in any way, including by deception), there is a debt that must/will be repaid by you/us, as the perpetrators/minions of unprecedented evile, will not be available.

all is not lost/forgotten/forgiven.

no need to fret (unless you're associated/joined at the hype with, unprecedented evile), it's all just a part of the creators' wwwildly popular, newclear powered, planet/population rescue initiative/mandate.

or, is it (literally) ground hog (as in dead meat) day, again? many of US are obviously not aware of/interested in how we appear (which is whoreabull) from the other side of the 'lens', or even from across the oceans.

vote with (what's left in) yOUR wallet. help bring an end to unprecedented evile's manifestation through yOUR owned felonious corepirate nazi glowbull warmongering execrable.

we still haven't read (here) about the 2/3'rds of you kids who are investigating/pursuing a spiritual/conscience/concious re-awakening, in amongst the 'stuff that matters'? another big surprise?

some of US should consider ourselves very fortunate to be among those scheduled to survive after the big flash/implementation of the creators' wwwildly popular planet/population rescue initiative/mandate.

it's right in the manual, 'world without end', etc....

as we all ?know?, change is inevitable, & denying/ignoring gravity, logic, morality, etc..., is only possible, on a temporary basis.

concern about the course of events that will occur should the life0cidal execrable fail to be intervened upon is in order.

'do not be dismayed' (also from the manual). however, it's ok/recommended, to not attempt to live under/accept, fauxking nazi felon greed/fear/ego based pr ?firm? scriptdead mindphuking hypenosys.

consult with/trust in yOUR creators. providing more than enough of everything for everyone (without any distracting/spiritdead personal gain motives), whilst badtolling unprecedented evile, using an unlimited supply of newclear power, since/until forever. see you there?

"If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."

Re:corepirate nazis create zombi population (2, Informative)

PonyHome (625218) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530587)

Nice one! Okay, two points for demonstrating that IS possible for human brains to become infected, to do the bidding of others, and reprogrammed to mindlessly spread that infection as far and wide as possible. It would have been fifty points but, y'know, spelling.

And what is this constant harping on cockroach "brains?" Their so-called "brain" is a cluster of nerve cells that runs along the ventral midline of their thoracic segment. There's three clusters of it in the "head" segment, but that doesn't control locomotion. A cockroach doesn't even need its head, except for that starving to death thing. It would have been nice if the article had been a bit more clear on where this precise injection occurs. In the head? That might blind them, but probably wouldn't rob them of "free will" (as much as a cockroach can be said to have free will). Even more impressive might be that the wasp knows in which segment of the neural ganglia to inject them in order to control their actions.

Re:corepirate nazis create zombi population (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530993)

Well, since it's probably the same for every 'roach of the same model, all the wasp needs to "know" (or, be programmed to) is to sting at a certain point. That's not so far fetched, current robots that we built instead of nature can do that already. We build cars in a quite similar way.

The wasp needn't "know" anything about the cockroaches neural network. All it needs to "know" is "sting here, food follows".

Sounds familiar (1)

overshoot (39700) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530527)

I knew a gal once who had a similar schtick. Well, except it wasn't exactly the antennae she used ...

Re:Sounds familiar (1)

Kickasso (210195) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530559)

Did she ate her victims?

Was Bush stung by a wasp? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21530617)

Can the wasp sting also change a human into a zombie? If so, perhaps Bush has been stung.

Re:Was Bush stung by a wasp? (1)

SharpFang (651121) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530657)

I don't know about Bush, but Mikael Jackson is certainly a marvel of animatronics.

Zombie? (1)

msormune (808119) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530639)

So the cockroach is stung once for paralyzation and then again for making it walk again against it's will (Well, if a cockroach has a will...)
At what point does the cockroach turn into a zombie? Seems to me it's just involuntarily walking towards it's doom.

Re:Zombie? (1)

v1 (525388) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530977)

It's been awhile since I watched the Nature ep on this but I recall there were actually three stings in all. One to pacify, one to control, (then the antenna clipping and leading it to the burrow like a cow on a rope) and then a final sting to the nervous system in a way that permanently crippled (but not killed) the roach, to insure that when the roach recovered from the mind toxin that it could not escape. I'm surprised no one has mentioned this yet.

I don't entirely see why the control aspect was strictly necessary, because at least in that show the roach was not all that much bigger than the wasp. This summer I watched a particularly large wasp tag a CICADA in flight, in my back yard while I was picking up sticks. Made a heck of a racket as you might imagine, thrashing around on the ground with the wasp until the poison took effect, but then the wasp was more than happy to fly away with the cicada. Most members of the wasp family are quite capable of flying away with very large prey.

Zombie Cockroaches Would Be Invincible (1)

doyoulikeworms (1094003) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530645)

How do you kill zombies? You go for the head. These things can live for like 10 hours without a head, or something, right? Heaven help us if that happens!

Re:Zombie Cockroaches Would Be Invincible (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530973)

Actually, IIRC, they can go for days without a head and finally die from starvation.

Pretty creepy if you ask me.

FANTASTIC! DOES THIS WORK ON WOMEN? (1)

MichailS (923773) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530711)

I often get frightened by the Pandoras' Box that our revered biotechs are opening time and time again.

Relation to Parkinsons? (1)

Stefanwulf (1032430) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530909)

This sounds like it has remarkable parallels to Parkinson's, actually. Both conditions are characterized by an difficulty initiating voluntary activity, and seem to be caused in large part by a lack of/inability to process dopamine or equivalent neurotransmitter. I wonder if the section of the roach's brain which is stung serves a function analogous to the basal ganglia in a human?

Some quick poking around shows that P. D. Evans, in OCTOPAMINE DISTRIBUTION IN THE INSECT NERVOUS SYSTEM (1978), demonstrated that octopamine distribution was highly localized in cockroaches, particularly in the ganglia of the ventral nerve cord. From what I can read, there would have to be some pathway for distribution, most likely to the area which is stung by the wasp. If this area really does act in a similar manner to the basal ganglia in humans, providing inhibition via a feedback loop from the higher control centers of the brain, then it should be broadly connected to the mushroom bodies (if not a part of them itself).

Does anyone here know more about cockroach neuroanatomy?

Oh Thank God (4, Funny)

Kadmium (679058) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530947)

I read the title as "Scientologists create zombie cockroaches" and actually caught myself thinking, "Yeah, they've been working up to this for a while now."

Huge opportunity (3, Funny)

longslash (1196447) | more than 6 years ago | (#21530967)

Surely this opens up a whole new area of cockroach racing with wasp jockeys?
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