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Firefox 2.0.0.11 Released

CmdrTaco posted more than 6 years ago | from the download-compile-reboot-repeat dept.

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BrianAU writes "Firefox 2.0.0.11 has been released, the Release Notes show the only major change as a correction of a compatibility issue with some websites and extensions as discovered in Firefox 2.0.0.10."

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And faster too!!! (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21545001)

Now, if they can only fix those memory leaks!

one sentence summary and it makes front page.. (4, Insightful)

LingNoi (1066278) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545015)

Firefox 2.0.0.11 has been released, the Release Notes show the only major change as a correction of a compatibility issue with some websites and extensions as discovered in Firefox 2.0.0.10.
If you think it wasn't that big of a change then why did you sumbit it to Slashdot?!

Re:one sentence summary and it makes front page.. (4, Insightful)

calebt3 (1098475) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545029)

You'd be amazed what goes into the Firehose. The fact that it actually made it through is a bit mind-boggling though.

Re:one sentence summary and it makes front page.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21545063)

great news day 'spose...

Re:one sentence summary and it makes front page.. (2, Funny)

Harmonious Botch (921977) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545087)

The fact that it actually made it through is a bit mind-boggling...
They probably thought it was news about Firefox 3, like I did.

Re:one sentence summary and it makes front page.. (2, Funny)

rueger (210566) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545141)

The fact that it actually made it through is a bit mind-boggling though.

You must be new here.... if it only gets duped one more time, that'll be a surprise.

Re:one sentence summary and it makes front page.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21545077)

The real question is how did it make it to the main page =/

Re:one sentence summary and it makes front page.. (1)

SeaFox (739806) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545321)

If you think it wasn't that big of a change then why did you sumbit it to Slashdot?!

Perhaps they wrote it as a journal entry, and they have their journal set to automatically submit to stories.

Re:one sentence summary and it makes front page.. (1)

Tim C (15259) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545427)

No; journal entries that make it are marked as such. This looks to have been a normal submission.

This update keeps crashing on me! (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21545435)

You should be careful before upgrading. Firefox upgraded itself for me, without my consent, to this release. It was working fine before, but now it's crashing a few seconds after it starts up. I've had to switch back to using Safari until they get this resolved.

I tried going back to Firefox 2.0.0.10, but right after starting it up it upgraded automatically to Firefox 2.0.0.11, which of course doesn't work!

Re:This update keeps crashing on me! (3, Informative)

Crimson Wing (980223) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545765)

Here's how to downgrade without it auto-(re)-updating on you:

1.) Get whatever files you need your 2.0.0.10 installation method of choice, then disconnect from the Internet (by whatever means you like).

2.) Once disconnected, install Firefox.

3.) In Firefox, go Tools > Options, go to the "Advanced" section, and click the "Update" tab. You should see an option saying "When updates to Firefox are found: ( ) Ask me what I want to do; (x) Automatically download and install the update". Change that setting to the "ask me" option, and it should prompt you whenever it finds an update.

4.) Reconnect to the intertubes and surf away.

Alternatively, on the same screen, there are checkboxes to determine what features to *look* for updates to.

Re:This update keeps crashing on me! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21545807)

That sounds like a big hassle, just because Mozilla didn't test their patch properly.

Maybe instead of wasting his time with yours steps, he should just go to http://opera.com [opera.com] and install a web browser that's tested, performs well, consumes little memory, and doesn't get completely broken by such minor updates.

Re:This update keeps crashing on me! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21546117)

The second I can run adblock/flashblock/greasemonkey/a quick proxy switcher on opera. that's a deal.

Until then, I'll run a browser that can be easily extended to provide a more rich feature set.

So? (0, Redundant)

PenisLands (930247) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545035)

Stop the presses! Firefox has had bugs fixed!

Re:So? (1)

Spookticus (985296) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545055)

so thats how web pages are made...they take the paper right off the rollers and scan them into the internet. I have always thought there was some kind of programming involved here...You learn something new everyday.

Re:So? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21545155)

Stop the presses!
Firefox now includes a new toolbar called Enhancements - buttons for the top 20 most popular extensions.

Ok. It doesn't. But wouldn't it be nice if it did? Preconfigured with the most usable web enhancements. You could toggle the menu to [dis]appear much like extra Office doodads. Honestly, I don't know what's all out there, but extra exposure is the punch behind advertising. Show me what I'm truly missing in my web experience.

I think such an addition will separate Firefox from IE. Imagine another toolbar installed by default with all these gizmos, leaving IE users scratching their chin, "Hmm. Wheres mine?"

Re:So? (1)

sonchat (819093) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545833)

with the difficulty of creating a computer program compared with the hastle from armchair programmers I 'm suprised there's any programmers.

Hey (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21545041)

Fix any problems? I always have this weird slowing down, to the point where I can't switch between tabs and the URL bar is frozen. They should fix that. Beck to using Opera (out of necessity because I really do like the Fox better, when it's working)

Re: FF slows down (1)

xorbe (249648) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545071)

Yes, what the heck is that? Restarting fixes it, but that just shouldn't be. Happens under Linux on my machine at work that rarely reboots.

Re: FF slows down (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21545163)

I found some Flash-based stuff causes that to happen to me every once in a while. Killing off tabs with Flash content one at a time usually reveals one of them was solely responsible for the sluggish performance. What that really means I don't know. Time for Flash-block perhaps? I'm too lazy to bother...

Re: FF speeds up (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21545267)

Easier than that, just get rid of the silly flash plugin if you were dumb enough to get it in the first place...

Re: FF slows down (1)

Man On Pink Corner (1089867) | more than 6 years ago | (#21546049)

Flashblock is damned nice. I just started using it in response to some unusually-gross ads on Fark. It doesn't require much motivation to install -- just google flashblock and click on the obvious link.

Re:Hey (1)

vidarh (309115) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545343)

After some upgrade CPU usage has been going through the roof (and staying there) more and more frequently for me. Combined with the memory leaks it's now seriously close to the point where I'll start moving to some other browser. Problem is I don't like any of the alternatives - I use Opera for some things that tends to bring Firefox to it's knees, but I can't stand it's UI for regular usage... I really, really want to be able to stick to Firefox, but not if it means restarting my browser many times a day (it used to be once or twice a day - now either memory usage or persistent high CPU usage will cause me to restart it every 2-3 hours of browsing).

Re:Hey (1)

thebjorn (530874) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545591)

Safari 3.0.4 is out for Windows. I've only tried it for a couple of days, but it's a significant improvement over the last beta :-)

As if this is news? (5, Insightful)

garcia (6573) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545043)

Maybe it was different in the past when software didn't automatically tell its users to upgrade but now that Firefox reminds you automatically when a new release is out I don't see the reason why Slashdot would put this on the front page... Not only that but this release was pushed out yesterday (or the day before, I can't recall when I picked it up). In addition to even that aside, 2.*.10 was out just several days before that and was a bigger update. If anything, we should have heard about that instead and not this minor fix.

Until the "editors" stop pushing garbage through w/o letting the firehose "fix" stupid submissions, Slashdot will continue to lag other sites in the quality coming through. If you really want to keep it up let the firehose do its job -- if not, let it degrade to the steaming pile that is Digg and be done with it already.

Re:As if this is news? (1)

kc2keo (694222) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545157)

I agree. Dunno why this made it to slashdot front page. All users of FF get updated through the browser. So I think this is !news. I would be more interested when FF3 is stable and being compared to other browsers.

Re:As if this is news? (1)

calebt3 (1098475) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545227)

All users of FF get updated through the browser.
Technically, many Linux users get updated through the repos. But either way, it is still automatic.

Re:As if this is news? (1)

somegeekynick (1011759) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545287)

Technically, many Linux users get updated through the repos. But either way, it is still automatic. Speaking of Linux, I guess this release is not as important the previous release of Fx, since I haven't yet seen an update.(Ubuntu 7.10.) Usually, I get to know about an update through some news source or the other, but with 2.0.0.10, it was apt that first informed me.

Re:As if this is news? (4, Interesting)

Excors (807434) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545265)

The interesting thing is that it was the fastest ever release of a browser update. John Resig [ejohn.org] gives most of the details: A security patch in Firefox 2.0.0.10 was incorrectly checked in, and introduced a bug which was not caught by the testing process. That was only discovered after the release, so the code was fixed and the whole release process had to start up again. Three days later, the 2.0.0.11 update is available for forty languages and three platforms.

So, it reflects badly on Mozilla's testing efforts, though that is an area where Firefox 3 has made significant improvements with automated testing. It reflects well on their release process, which can push out a critical update in just a few days.

Re:As if this is news? (1)

wizardforce (1005805) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545293)

That's the thing though, the firehose isn't doing its job, part of the problem is that someone needs to be voting up this dreck in the first place. The other is that the editors are not "editing" anything, dupes, inaccuracies, basic failure to use spell-check, you know things like that. There isn't really a way at the moment to label pointless stories, dupes, innacurate articles/summeries that have been shown to work yet. what we need is for editors *and* slashdotters to pay attention to what is being submitted and maybe google some old stories to prevent dupes, check the links before it's on the front page and alert the editors to obvious problems with stories. Just like FLOSS there should be a way for everyone to review what is being produced and find the "bugs" [dupes, pointless stories erc.] perhaps fix a few here and there

Re:As if this is news? (1)

heffrey (229704) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545669)

Obviously you don't like Digg (me neither). But what you also hint that there are sites which offer a more lucid take on technology news? What would you recommend? Can't see this as an Ask Slashdot topic ever!

Re:As if this is news? (1)

Mex (191941) | more than 6 years ago | (#21546001)

I like slashdot, but I have to agree here. This is non-news, worse than filler because there's really nothing to discuss. I use Firefox and it updated automatically. So?
 

Yay.... (1)

Man On Pink Corner (1089867) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545049)

... a new Firefox point release. Time to run regedit and delete all the .htm/.html DDEExec keys by hand again.

Why don't they ever seem to fix that bug?

Re:Yay.... (1)

bunratty (545641) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545135)

What bug? I see bug 246078 [mozilla.org] which was fixed years ago. Is there a new bug? If so, you should make sure you report it properly.

Re:Yay.... (1)

Man On Pink Corner (1089867) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545487)

Every time I install a new Firefox release on any Win2K or XP system (two desktops and one laptop), I get "Windows cannot open (site name)" error dialogs every time I launch Firefox with no other browser windows open. This symptom has returned with every Firefox installation since the pre-1.5 releases. To fix it, I have to manually delete the ddeexec keys that the Firefox installer insists on creating for no good reason.

I genuinely don't understand why I'm the only person this ever seems to happen to, because (as you say) the bug was supposedly fixed a long time ago.

(Edit: if you scroll down to the bottom of the page at the link you posted, you'll see other people posting the same complaint.)

Re:Yay.... (1)

i.of.the.storm (907783) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545699)

Oh, happens to me too. I didn't know how to fix it, thanks. Where are these keys located? is it in the part where all the file associations are?

Re:Yay.... (1)

Man On Pink Corner (1089867) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545931)

I just search for "FirefoxHTML" (whatever that is) to get into the right areas of the registry, then delete the ddeexec keys from it and the other common suffixes nearby (http, https, ftp). I think the relevant ones are in My Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\FirefoxHTML and a few other places, although I don't know which one(s) actually trigger the bug.

The link to the Bugzilla page posted above will have better info than this, I'm sure. Needless to say, back up your registry before going around deleting keys on the advice of some random dude on Slashdot.

Re:Yay.... (1)

bunratty (545641) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545951)

I saw that. Someone should file a *new* bug report properly. Making further comments on a bug report that was fixed years ago isn't the correct way to report a new problem, unless it's basically the same problem. It may be the same symptom, but if it's different someone will have to submit a new bug report.

Can't reproduce that one here. (3, Funny)

Almahtar (991773) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545357)

My system doesn't know what a "regedit" is. Maybe that's your problem?

Re:Can't reproduce that one here. (1)

urcreepyneighbor (1171755) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545373)

You're stilling using Windows 3.1?

Re:Can't reproduce that one here. (1)

Denis Lemire (27713) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545453)

Windows 3.1 had regedit.

Re:Can't reproduce that one here. (2, Informative)

urcreepyneighbor (1171755) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545625)

Well, I'll be goddamned. It appears, based on a quick search, you are right.

http://www.gaby.de/win3x/etips.htm [www.gaby.de]

Working with Windows 3.11 Regedit
"Windows 3.1 registry??", you may ask. Believe it or not, but the registry first came with Windows 3.1, not Windows 95.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I must perform seppuku for this shameful display of my ignorance. :)

Anxious for 3.0 (2, Insightful)

a_nonamiss (743253) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545053)

Firefox is a terrific product which I use and wholeheartedly endorse, but I think they have lost sight of their original intentions a bit. I originally started using Phoenix way back when because of the fast, simple interface. People have been so enamored with lots of pretty icons, plug-ins and add-ons, that in many cases, IE is a faster, leaner browser. ::shudder:: I like many of the add-on features on more powerful systems, but I pine for a browser that I can run quickly and easily on low-end machines. I've ever once used a Firefox theme. The default one is just fine for me. I've heard rumors that FF3 is headed in that direction, and I just hope that they keep that focus. Maybe they could even have separate installations or installation options for low-end and high-end machines.

Re:Anxious for 3.0 (1)

mopslik (688435) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545111)

I like many of the add-on features on more powerful systems, but I pine for a browser that I can run quickly and easily on low-end machines.

Well, you've got two main options:

  1. Use Firefox as it is, sans memory-hogging extensions. This is the default installation.
  2. Seek out a lightweight browser like Dillo [dillo.org] and use it for surfing on your low-end machines.

Re:Anxious for 3.0 (2, Funny)

JackMeyhoff (1070484) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545205)

Imagine using a product called "Dildo" at work. Yeah that will do it.

Re:Anxious for 3.0 (2, Funny)

mopslik (688435) | more than 6 years ago | (#21546127)

Imagine using a product called "Dildo" at work. Yeah that will do it.

...or posting to Slashdot under that user name, Jack. ;)

Re:Anxious for 3.0 (1)

h4rm0ny (722443) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545285)


I'd just add that both Konqueror and Epiphany seem to be slimmer and faster than Firefox at the moment, especially Epiphany which handles Slashdot noticeably faster. I use Firefox for any web development because of the excellent Web Developer and Firebug plugins, but I use Epiphany for general browsing. The only thing I miss is the level of fine-tuning I can apply to my cookie preferences - Firefox handles that better.

Re:Anxious for 3.0 (1)

calebt3 (1098475) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545115)

I personally would like to see a completely stripped-down browser with only one feature built in: Plugin handler. Take spell check, tabs, RSS, etc. and make them into FF plugins.

Full Changelog (-1, Troll)

Kiaser Wilhelm II (902309) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545059)

A full grown stallion's cock, when fully erect, will measure some two to
three feet long. It can be three to six inches thick at the base, to about
two inches thick at the head. Horses are somewhat different from other
animals in the way their cock head works. When a horse is fully erect and
excited and ready to mount, his cock head is somewhat pointed and not as
thick as might be normally observed. This is to facillatate an easier
entry into the mare. After the horse has entered and reaches a climax the
head swells (though it is more spongy then hard) into a fist sized mass as
he ejacultates. It is thought that this serves as a plug to force the
semen deep into the mare rather then allowing it to leak out. A full grown
stallion can ejaculate about one cup ( 8 ounces ) of semen. It will take
quite a few spurts to accomplish this. Each time his tail will raise and
lower in a brief flick. The first few jets are of a thin to average
consistency of cum. The final few jets are of a thick gelatinous
substance... it is thought that this serves to "seal" the mares pussy so
that the semen has time to do it's thing before leaking out. Horse semen
is extremely viscous, if you touch your finger to a pool of it you can draw
a thin string of it five to six feet long! Horse cum has a nice flat taste
to it...not at all bitter like man's cum. You can easily drink cups of it
with no discomfort.

Re:Full Changelog (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21545109)

thanks!

Re:Full Changelog (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21545241)

Aw, this hit +5 funny. It's no fun if you mod it down, guys.

Re:Full Changelog (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21546101)

Masturbation: Female dolphins, once they show interest in you, can be supported in much the same way as the male, one hand under the fin, supporting her, the other doing the stimulating. The clitoris of the female is located at the top of the genital slit, and is a prominent lump when erect. You can rub this with your finger tips, or lick and suck it, but with the oral aspect, you might end up with a bruised nose as they thrust up into you. You can slide your hand gently into their genital opening, and feel around inside, rubbing gently. They feel warm and muscular inside, their labia like tough, squishy sponge when they are excited. Don't be surprised if they start to play with your hand inside them. They have very manipulative muscles, and can use them to carry and manipulate objects, including your hand. (They can do things that would make a regular human woman turn green with envy.) Their climax is coupled with stiffening, shuddering, sometimes a lot of thrusting, clinching of the vaginal muscles, and sometimes vocalisation. Mating: This is harder. Obviously, being human, it is awkward, but not impossible to mate in open water. It is easier to have the dolphin in a shallow area (like the shallows just off the beach) around 1 1/2 to 2 feet deep. This is usually comfortable enough for both the dolphin and you. Gently, you should roll the dolphin on her side, so she is lying belly-towards you. You can prop yourself up on an elbow, and lie belly to belly against her. You may want to use the other arm to gently hold her close, and place the tip of your member against her genital slit. She will, if interested, arch her body up against you, taking you inside her body. There is usually a fair bit of wriggling and shifting, usually to get comfortable, both outside and inside. Once comfortable, though, females initiate a series of muscular vaginal contractions that rub the entire length of your member. They may also thrust rhythmically against you, so enjoy the experience while you can, since you will rarely last longer that a minute or two. Just prior to her climaxing, she will up the speed of her contractions and thrusts. It is interesting to note that the times I have mated with females, thay have timed their orgasm to mine. Whether they do this consciously or not, I do not know, but it is a great feeling to have two bodies shuddering against each other at the one time.

More Crashes (2, Informative)

Spinlock_1977 (777598) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545073)

Ever since 2.0.0.8, Firefox is crashing regularly on both my Win2k and XP (both fully patched) boxes. New Firefox releases keep coming fast this year, but do they ever address these stability issues? Is anyone else getting regular (2-3 per week) crashes? Do I need to quit surfing for free porn in the .ru domain on my Win95 box with no firewall? (ok, that last part was actually bs).

Re:More Crashes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21545095)

i use seamonkey on an XP box with no problem other than Outlook 2007

Re:More Crashes (1)

niceone (992278) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545829)

Do I need to quit surfing for free porn in the .ru domain on my Win95 box with no firewall? (ok, that last part was actually bs).

The part about no firewall?

How is this important news? (2, Funny)

jopet (538074) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545089)

Yes, I use Firefox, happy user and all, but how is such a minor update news worth to make it on the title page?
Just as a comparison: when OpenSuse 10.2 was released (or was it 10.1) not a single of the many submitted articles was published on Slashdot.

So why is this worth its own article on Slashdot?

Re:How is this important news? (1)

Ash-Fox (726320) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545145)

So why is this worth its own article on Slashdot?
Firefox is probably seen as a more notable piece of software than OpenSuSE.

I'm pretty sure there are more Firefox users than OpenSuSE users for one.

Re:How is this important news? (1)

jopet (538074) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545219)

I am sure FF has more users than OpenSuse. However, OpenSuse is among the three most used Linux distros, and in central Europe probably among the top two or one .
Also, the comparison with OpenSuse was more an example -- I certainly would find an article about the FF version 3 or even a beta for version 3 apropriate. But a tiny bugfix update like this? How do articles actually make it to the frontpage on Slashdot?

Re:How is this important news? (1)

Ash-Fox (726320) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545303)

I am sure FF has more users than OpenSuse. However, OpenSuse is among the three most used Linux distros, and in central Europe probably among the top two or one .
I remember in 10.1 and 10.2 OpenSuSE was just starting to get popular actually. So, I don't think it was at that ranking yet.

I certainly would find an article about the FF version 3 or even a beta for version 3 apropriate. But a tiny bugfix update like this? How do articles actually make it to the frontpage on Slashdot?
You must be new here...

I wonder (1)

kilodelta (843627) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545107)

If I'll be able to see my account activity on Vonage now. Because while I can't see it with Firefox, I can see it with IE which annoys me to no end.

Re:I wonder (1)

MollyB (162595) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545283)

I'd blame the website before Firefox. Can't say about Vonage, but my online banking has been curtailed by the IE 'requirement' which seems to hide the frame(s) with clickable buttons which enable online transactions. I d/l'ed the WebDeveloper add-on or plug-in. Now I can right-click on the borders of hidden frames, select This Frame/Open in new tab and there is the good old page I used to see. The buttons are not "live" however, you must right-click desired function button, choose Copy Location and paste it into the address window, hit Enter. With this admittedly clumsy workaround, I save myself a trip to town. YMMV.

bugfix (3, Insightful)

SolusSD (680489) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545131)

A simple bugfix release is definitely !news. If slashdot were to consistently post stories for simple bugfix releases for major software packages these would be 90% of the news! Imagine MS patch Tuesdays.

What are the security changes? (1)

FranTaylor (164577) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545201)

What are the security changes, in some sort of detail? The ChangeLog is completely vague. I know I can diff the code, but an explanation would be a lot better.

Not a "compatibility issue" (3, Informative)

christopherfinke (608750) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545215)

This release did not address a "compatibility issue;" it was released solely to fix a bug in canvas.drawImage that was introduced in 2.0.0.10, the bug being that it no longer worked.

See more details at John Resig's blog [ejohn.org].

I'm curious (1)

trytoguess (875793) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545237)

why is this on the front page of slashdot? The folks who already have the browser will already get it automatically, and for those who don't... well doesn't really matter for them no? So who does this leave, the folks who do have firefox, but disabled auto update, yet still cares to update his/her browser while NOT visiting firefox's release page?

Some people may prefer to not auto-update (1)

linebackn (131821) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545243)

I see some people saying that this isn't news, but I am glad to see Firefox get some attention. Some people may have disabled auto update and forgotten to update for a while. (I personally don't like apps that automatically phone home even with good intentions).

This specific release only fixes a canvas regression from the previous one, (Whoops! And I thought I was having a bad day trying to rush out some software) but altogether previous releases fix many security issues and it is nice to see a reminder elsewhere once and a while. If nothing else it seems like a good time to download a fresh set of installation files.

Re:Some people may prefer to not auto-update (1)

garcia (6573) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545279)

I see some people saying that this isn't news, but I am glad to see Firefox get some attention. Some people may have disabled auto update and forgotten to update for a while. (I personally don't like apps that automatically phone home even with good intentions).

Then you need to pay attention for updates yourself and your point that it should be front page Slashdot news is moot. In addition, I would assume that the vast majority of geek users of Firefox don't turn off auto-updating because then it basically becomes quite similar to IE in updates and no one wants that.

Purely Anecdotal Comment (1)

rueger (210566) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545271)

Well, on my G4 Mac Firefox 2.0.0.9 seemed to hit a peak for resource usage, and needed to be restarted every couple of hours if I had my usual six or seven tabs open. Eventually it would slow to a near halt. Slashdot in particular just stopped loading for some reason that I couldn't bothered to figure out.

2.0.0.10 seemed to be better in terms of bring a memory hog, but crashed repeatedly. I suspect that specific to a few sites, but still there hadn't been problems before.

2.0.0.11? We'll see.

Although I haven't quite reached the point of abandoning FF, I do find myself jumping to Safari on the Mac or IE and Opera on the PC when FF starts having problems. I too long for a browser that compatible, fast, and stripped down.

I really think that browsers are one of those things that needs to be totally reinvented every few years. The people that create IE or Firefox or Opera inevitably get locked into one paradigm or the other, even if the Internet landscape has changed around them. Just as Netscape refined what Mosaic had created, and IE trumped Netscape, and Firefox was a grand improvement on IE, it may be time for a new take on browser design and usability that doesn't just copy what has been done before.

That likely means a few dead ends, but it's what I'll be watching for.

Version numbering (2, Interesting)

Goaway (82658) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545315)

Open source projects tend to have somewhat byzantine version numbering schemes, but Firefox really takes the cake. It has four different numbers, out of which only two are used. The second one was a "5" once, but that was completely arbitary, too.

I know the reason for this is supposedly the extension system, but that is not a valid excuse. An internal technical detail should not exposed to users like that, and even so, the reason is not the extension system, but that the version checking for extensions was designed wrong from the start.

Now, can we please have a sane two-part version number for 3.0 and up?

Re:Version numbering (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21545441)

I know the reason for this is supposedly the extension system, but that is not a valid excuse. An internal technical detail should not exposed to users like that

You mean users shouldn't be informed when a new version of the browser will break all their extensions?

Here we go again (3, Funny)

kernelpanicked (882802) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545317)

Mozilla Dev1: OMFG, we haven't been mentioned on the front page of slashdot in like 20 minutes or something!

Mozilla Dev2: No problem. We'll just release yet another pointless sub-sub-sub-sub-sub version.

Me: (looking at yet another firefox recompile from FreeBSD ports) Screw it, I'm going back to seamonkey.

Re:Here we go again (1)

BZ (40346) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545731)

Of course the bug was in Gecko, so it affects Seamonkey too.

You are kidding us, right (2, Insightful)

Orig_Club_Soda (983823) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545451)

How is this a news item? All 4 of my computers updated automatically. NAtural as breathing. Reporting this is like reporting "The sun rose today for the nth time this year...."

News behind the news (2, Insightful)

kimanaw (795600) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545493)

As someone who was bitten by the bug fixed in 2.0.0.11, I think the terse /. description needs a little backstory.

2.0.0.10 f*cked up a lot of AJAXy web apps, and, frankly, Mozilla's initial response [mozilla.org] was less than "customer oriented". The "shoot the messanger" attitude exhibited in some of those early Bugzilla posts - despite there being numerous random URLs provided to point out the flaw - is a bit troubling.

As is the fact that Firefox's release process seems to be either lacking basic tests for std. API's, or is choosing to skip those tests.

And of course, the lack of an easy 1-click "Revert" menu item/button to back down versions when an auto-updater introduces such a bug further compounds the impact of these sort of bugs.

Of course, the /. crowd are somehow spinning this serious failure of both software and processes into proof of Firefox's superiority, due to the quick turnaround time. However, those of us that were actually bitten by this - and esp. had customers bitten by this (see the Bugzilla link above) - are having to rethink the usual practice of recommending FF over IE/Opera/etc.

Re:News behind the news (4, Informative)

BZ (40346) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545705)

> The "shoot the messanger" attitude exhibited

Where, exactly? Reading the link you posted I see:

1) Original report
2) 5 comments confirming that it's a problem
3) 1 comment indicating which change caused the problem
4) 1 comment indicating what should be done to fix the problem
5) 1 comment combined with flag changes to make sure there is a regression test in the future
6) 1 comment asking an earlier commenter for the URL to the site they said was broken, to
        make sure that it actually gets fixed.
7) 3 comments that say that it's a problem and where
8) A regression test being posted
9) The regression test being checked in
10) Some bugs being marked duplicate
11) The fix being checked in

All that happened over the course of 18 hours. I stopped reading there, since the rest doesn't particularly matter, as far as I can tell.

Where's the problem exactly?

Re:News behind the news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21545713)

Get off your high horse, nerd.

Does it do...? (1)

camperdave (969942) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545773)

Is there a mute function like the [esc] key in IE?
Can I quickly add a page to the bookmarks toolbar (or a folder on the bookmarks toolbar) by right clicking the toolbar (or on the folder)?

Re:Does it do...? (1)

Gertlex (722812) | more than 6 years ago | (#21545869)

You can click and drag a webpage to the bookmarks toolbar... (though this functionality doesn't seem to exist in additional bookmark toolbars added by addons.)

news for nerds (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21546039)

It's news for nerds in the tradition of slashdot to announce software released!
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