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Jackson Slated to Make Hobbit Movie, Sequel

Zonk posted more than 6 years ago | from the hobbit-two-electric-bugaloo dept.

Lord of the Rings 496

syrinx writes "Peter Jackson, New Line Cinema, and MGM have agreed to work on two new movies: a film adaptation of J.R.R. Tolkien's 'The Hobbit', and a further sequel. From the article: 'The two Hobbit films ... are scheduled to be shot simultaneously, with pre-production beginning as soon as possible. Principal photography is tentatively set for a 2009 start, with the intention of 'The Hobbit' release slated for 2010 and its sequel the following year, in 2011.'" Not sure if it would be possible to nab Ian Holm as Bilbo, but here's hoping.

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sequel? (5, Funny)

BlueStraggler (765543) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740720)

Didn't he already shoot the sequel to The Hobbit?

Re:sequel? (0)

Mad Dog Manley (93208) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740762)

The "sequel" to The Hobbit will be a film that takes place in the time between The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings.

Re:sequel? (1)

Whalou (721698) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740972)

My bet is on The Adventures of Tom Bombadil. The movie will consist of a series of music videos based on the poems in the book. :-)

Re:sequel? (4, Funny)

Ed Avis (5917) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741262)

Will it include The Ballad of Bilbo Baggins [google.com] by Leonard Nimoy?

Re:sequel? (1)

StarvingSE (875139) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741056)

My bet is that they'll split the hobbit into 2 movies, the first one ending with bilbo stealing the ring from gollum. The second movie would feature the escape from the goblins, the slaying of smaug, and the war of the 5 armies.

Re:sequel? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21740772)

test

Re:sequel? (5, Interesting)

moderatorrater (1095745) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740798)

I would prefer he do a series of short films based on the Unfinished Tales, then a documentary based on the Silmarilion. That would be awesome beyond all reason.

Re:sequel? (0)

l2718 (514756) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740848)

Documentary based on the Silmarillion
Now that is a brilliant idea. I'm just not sure why you think Jackson is a good choice for director (have you actually seen his TTT,RotK ?)

Re:sequel? (1)

moderatorrater (1095745) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741044)

I did see those movies, and I thought they were quite well done and all of the changes I noticed were done for time. There was no time for Aragorn to gather forces from across Gondor, so the ghosts come with him instead, etc. The reason I would choose Jackson is that he's proven to have the dedication to the source material and the knowledge to pull it off.

Re:sequel? (4, Insightful)

rehtonAesoohC (954490) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740890)

That would be awesome for the nerds of us who stayed awake through the introduction to the Valar.

Re:sequel? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21741222)

then a documentary based on the Silmarilion
What's next? Documentary about Noah's Ark?

Re:sequel? (1)

enderdraxxus (1204992) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741268)

that would be awsome!

Re:sequel? (2, Informative)

PlatyPaul (690601) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740832)

Thankfully/sadly (take your pick) he hasn't agreed to do The Silmarillion [wikipedia.org] .

Given the bad blood, including a recent "taunting" phonecall [msn.com] , it really is surprising that Jackson would accept the project.

But, then again, money is money (especially when it's LOTS of money).

Re:sequel? (4, Funny)

Lev13than (581686) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740958)

Be ready for disappointment - we've seen this "shoot the prequels after the main trilogy" bit before. $5 says Bilbo stabs first, Gimli will be replaced by an annoying CGI sidekick, and we'll learn that the rings get their special power because they're made of high-strength mitochlorian alloy.

sequal? (1)

Hes Nikke (237581) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740726)

so are the splitting the hobbit into 2 films or doing somthing else from middle earth?

Re:sequEl? (5, Funny)

Gaerek (1088311) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740810)

The first movie will be entitled "The Hobbit." The second movie is tenatively entitled "Movie About Hobbits in an Effort to Milk the Lord of the Rings and Hobbit Properties for All They're Worth." Of course, this is a tenative title and subject to change.

Re:sequEl? (1)

PlatyPaul (690601) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740974)

It could be worse. It could be "LoTR Fanservice: The Musical".

Short, hairy men enacting fanfic love crusades while singing Britney Spears' comeback album.

*shudders*

Re:sequEl? (2, Interesting)

arkham6 (24514) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740978)

More likely, this is Peter Jackson doing what he can not to butcher the Hobbit by having to cut the book down to a 2-3 hour movie. Most likely its going to be a movie in two parts, with part 1 being up until Bilbo escapes from the wood elves, and Part 2 being the Dragon, the battle of the 5 armies, and some other things tying the movie further into the first 3 (Gandolf poking around the necromancer's home and finding out he's Sauron perhaps?)

Re:sequEl? (1)

Ron_Fitzgerald (1101005) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741200)

I understand your statement but I wouldn't classify this as milking. I personally am thrilled that there is more from these tales.

Here is a short list of milking IMO
Rocky 5 & 6
Beverly Hills copy 3
Freddy vs Jason
Missing in action 3
American Ninja 3,4,V
The Next Karate Kid
Lethal weapon 2,3

Can you tell my age?

I personally am excited to see more.

FYI: I wanted to post a link to Entertainment Weekly's list of 25 bad sequels but the list is 1 movie per page x 25 pages with 6 ads per page. f that s. 150 ads per person for the whole list? Now I remember why I ceased interest in EW.

Re:sequEl? (1)

russ1337 (938915) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741260)

Alien vs Predator

Not that I care, but (1)

plus_M (1188595) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740732)

Didn't he say he wasn't going to do a Hobbit movie earlier?

Re:Not that I care, but (1)

Paul_Hindt (1129979) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740744)

Why yes, he certainly did say that [hollywood.com] .

Re:Not that I care, but (4, Insightful)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740796)

But of course, like every such statement people make (e.g. "There's no way i'm sleeping with that donkey"), there is an unstated but very much present addendum of "unless someone gives me enough money, in which case hell yeah".

P.S. examples are not from personal experience, and you can't prove otherwise.

Re:Not that I care, but (4, Funny)

Kjella (173770) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740914)

P.S. examples are not from personal experience, and you can't prove otherwise.
Unless I pay someone enough money for the tape, right?

Re:Not that I care, but (4, Funny)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741010)

Unless I pay someone enough money for the tape, right?

Ah, you're catching on.

Re:Not that I care, but (5, Informative)

rehtonAesoohC (954490) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740790)

Jackson has always wanted to do film The Hobbit, but due to legal issues [premiere.com] they couldn't agree on terms.

They've finally resolved, woo!

Slashdot trolls (4, Funny)

ZeroExistenZ (721849) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740742)

finally have a place to apply.

I am happy (1)

Boap (559344) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740770)

I can not wait for the movie to be produced.

Re:I am happy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21740860)

I, for one, just came.

Re:I am happy (1)

junglee_iitk (651040) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740936)

Count me in. A long time since I have been so glad.

Life still has some good moments :)

is this a good idea? (-1, Troll)

l2718 (514756) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740778)

Given the abject disasters that Jackson's "The Two Towers" and "The Return of the King" were, is there any reason to expect that he'll do well with the Hobbit, not to speak of a "sequel" which will be mostly original? This is, of course, a matter of opinion, but it seemed to me that the weakest parts of there two films were the segments were Tolkien's material was explicitly rejected in favour of new material. The technical side will surely be amazing, but that is not quite reason enough to see a movie for me.

Re:is this a good idea? (5, Insightful)

nuzak (959558) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740814)

He will disappoint you. Bank on it. The other 99.99% of us will, however, probably like it.

Re:is this a good idea? (1)

Paul_Hindt (1129979) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740912)

Not to mention he will be laughing all the way to the bank regardless of whether or not it is critically acclaimed.

Re:is this a good idea? (1)

blueg3 (192743) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740928)

Not enough 9's imo.

Re:is this a good idea? (2, Insightful)

ContractualObligatio (850987) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740904)

This is, of course, a matter of opinion

True, it's all opinion, but even art allows for some objectivity. "Abject disaster" sounds like the small minded bitchiness of someone whose opinion isn't worth listening to.

Re:is this a good idea? (4, Insightful)

OmegaBlac (752432) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741030)

Given the abject disasters that Jackson's "The Two Towers" and "The Return of the King" were
Box office sales, the Oscars (ROTK garned a Best Film award of 2003), numerous film critics, the countless fans that enjoyed the trilogy, and many other film awards disagree with you there. Those two films may have strayed of the Tolkien path somewhat, but to call them an "abject disaster" is hilarious. Fortunately, your opinion is only shared by a small minority.

Thriller (1)

kryogen1x (838672) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740780)

Was I the only one who was worried that the title was referring to Michael Jackson?

Re:Thriller (1)

Rycochet (1006897) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740812)

You mean Michael also has a foot fetish?!?

Re:Thriller (1)

gardyloo (512791) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740822)

What, do you have something against loving little people?!?

Re:Thriller (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21740824)

Yeah, I mean i'm sure his general facial features would fit but I mean who wants a moonwalking hobbit?

Re:Thriller (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21741140)

I don't know why. He's starting to look like a sci-fi character [tmz.com] at this point.

Saumel L Jackson? (4, Funny)

fahrbot-bot (874524) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741282)

Was I the only one who was worried that the title was referring to Michael Jackson?

For some reason, I initially thought of Samuel L Jackson. Wouldn't that be interesting? "Get away from the gemstone Mother F*cker!"

Baby Boom Sept 2008 (0, Troll)

AssTard (684911) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740806)

... as millions of Mac users, upon hearing this news, obtain massive erections and impregnate their mail-order brides. LOL.

Note to director: no jar-jar (1)

192939495969798999 (58312) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740808)

Note to director: please don't add some pointless character to sell kids toys in this movie, just go "by the book", literally.

Re:Note to director: no jar-jar (4, Insightful)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740942)

Note to director: please don't add some pointless character to sell kids toys in this movie, just go "by the book", literally.

But, Jackson didn't do that in LOTR did he? Except for some minor changes to the overall arc of the film, I found he did a pretty faithful job of it.

I think he's the director we have the least to worry about. At least, I hope he is. The cinemas wanted him because he has proven he can make the movies (and, of course, make the money) - at least it's not Uwe Boll. ;-)

Cheers

Re:Note to director: no jar-jar (1)

JustOK (667959) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741172)

In the movie, at the battle of Helm's Deep, Jar Jar is 237th from the left.

Re:Note to director: no jar-jar (1)

StarvingSE (875139) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741212)

The only part I think Jackson totally screwed up was the army of the dead in RotK. The fact that he just swept up the battlefield with an invincible army made the entire battle completely worthless. In the books, I believe the army couldn't actually kill anyone, they simply frightened people so much that they dropped their weapons and ran away.

Re:Note to director: no jar-jar (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21740944)

Why you not like me-sa?

Re:Note to director: no jar-jar (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21741184)

You meant: just go BUY the book...right?

Re:Note to director: no jar-jar (1)

StarvingSE (875139) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741272)

I think you're getting your directors confused...

Hmmm... (4, Insightful)

CaptainPatent (1087643) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740816)

Peter Jackson did a great job in visualizing and bringing to life a story in which the plot was already fully written. I love the fact he's producing a version of "the hobbit" to go along with the LOTR Trilogy, but I'm not so sure about the sequel to it. I realize there is a gap between the two stories (around a 70 year gap actually) but what will the plot consist of?

I suppose it could go both ways, the first way with Peter Jackson doing a great job of tying the two books together and leading straight into the LOTR trilogy, the other with Peter Jackson unzipping and urinating on JRR Tolkien's masterpieces.

Re:Hmmm... (1)

Drazgal (683504) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740874)

"Jackson unzipping and urinating on JRR Tolkien's masterpieces" Gandalf beating up Denethor then throwing into the funeral pyre pretty much managed that one

Re:Hmmm... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21741028)

>Gandalf beating up Denethor then throwing into the funeral pyre

you've got to be shitting me

the movies were bad enough that i never bothered to see the third one, but please tell me you're just joking about that bit

no one could fuck up lord of the rings that badly

Re:Hmmm... (0, Troll)

n0dna (939092) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740888)

"unzipping and urinating on JRR Tolkien's masterpieces AGAIN."

There. Fixed it for you.

Re:Hmmm... (1)

An ominous Cow art (320322) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741012)

He could use some of the material from the RotK appendices, and some of the stuff mentioned in passing in The Hobbit: The Dwarf and Goblin Wars, Gandalf getting a Dwarven Ring from Thrain (or was it Thror?) in Dol Guldur, The Wise driving the Necromancer out of Dol Guldur. Maybe with all this stuff there would be enough to make a two-part Hobbit movie.

Re:Hmmm... (1)

physicsboy500 (645835) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741084)

He could, but as you said that was only mentioned "in passing"

If Tolkien was still around to write books about those adventures and Peter Jackson was around to adapt it to film I may trust it a bit more.

Re:Hmmm... (2, Informative)

Selfbain (624722) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741250)

He actually did. There is an enormous amount of material he wrote that was summarized in the Silmarillion. You can buy large volumes of books containing his notes.

Re:Hmmm... (1)

Sciros (986030) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741294)

He's already done the latter enough that I don't expect any different this time around. Jackson has shown with his adaptation of LotR that he thought he can do a better job with some portions of the story than Tolkien did. He, IMO, was wrong.

One thing I know to expect from The Hobbit is yet more of some of the worst editing in modern day cinema. King Kong had plenty as well, btw.

How many versions will we see of this film? (3, Insightful)

spineboy (22918) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740838)

Gold edition, 3D, directors cut? I plan on seeing it since the LOTR was soooo dang good.
I'm really quite interested to see how Smaug is done. The 3D done well might really up the bar for many action movies, and might set a new standard.

However, the movie still has to be good - putting lipstick on a pig still looks awful.

Re:How many versions will we see of this film? (3, Funny)

TheLazySci-FiAuthor (1089561) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741070)

putting lipstick on a pig still looks awful.


But have you seen the new lipstick? It uses subsurface scattering and revolutionary new food-stain shaders.

Re:How many versions will we see of this film? (1)

Kjella (173770) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741100)

How many versions will we see of this film?
I'd be happy if the damn bastards could just release the extended edition of LotR on HDDVD/Blu-Ray. Not that the regular ones are released, mind you. Of course you can get it in HDTV at any pirate site, it's a stunning example of pirates delivering a lot better product than anything you can buy. Pardon me for living under the illusion that paying customers (as in $$$ for discs, not "I am the product" broadcast) should get the best product available, clearly I live in some bizarro world...

Re:How many versions will we see of this film? (1)

drewmoney (1133487) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741266)

I said it would never happen, but I was wrong. My LOTR/Hobbit DVD collection WILL take up more space than my VHS Godfather collection!

Martin Freeman Would Be Better (0, Offtopic)

cybermage (112274) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740844)

Martin Freeman [imdb.com] played Bilbo in flashbacks during the LOTR. He'd be a better choice to play Bilbo in The Hobbit.

Re:Martin Freeman Would Be Better (5, Informative)

charlesbakerharris (623282) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740906)

Am I the only one who's noticed that Martin Freeman wasn't actually in the LOTR?

Re:Martin Freeman Would Be Better (0, Troll)

cybermage (112274) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740920)

Oh. I'm mistaken about the flashbacks thing, but he'd still be a good choice. He looks like a young Ian Holm.

Sequel?? (2, Insightful)

downix (84795) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740846)

Did he get some kind of wizard trick to summon the dead spirit of JRR Tolkein to write a new novel which to utilize as a sequel?

Why do I fear this "prequil" will suffer the same fate as the Lucas prequils, with Bilbo at the end screaming "NOOOOOOOOOOOO"

Re:Sequel?? (1)

tuffy (10202) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740918)

I expect they're simply splitting the original book into 2 films rather than making up all new material. Quite a lot happens in it, after all.

Re:Sequel?? (1)

Speare (84249) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740938)

Did he get some kind of wizard trick to summon the dead spirit of JRR Tolkein to write a new novel which to utilize as a sequel?

Yeah, it's called Christopher Tolkien. That guy has been combing his dad's ashes for half a century to dump a ton of excess half-completed JRRT junk on the market.

Actually, from what I've heard, Christopher despises the whole movie chain because he doesn't have movie revenue rights, even though he's raking in tons of dough from the inevitable book reprints and other merchandising details.

One thought on a possible "sequel" that came to mind would be an opportunity to let Bilbo go exploring the Old Forest. Maybe an original Tom Bombadil, Goldberry, Old Man Willow and the Barrow Downs story, to make up for the lack of that chapter in the LotR:FotR. Of course, there's plenty that can happen right in the Shire, with Michel Delving and Lobelia Sackville-Baggins.

Re:Sequel?? (5, Funny)

dubbreak (623656) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741132)

..with Bilbo at the end screaming "DO NOT WANT"

There, fixed that for you.

Re:Sequel?? (1)

Kjella (173770) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741208)

Did he get some kind of wizard trick to summon the dead spirit of JRR Tolkein to write a new novel which to utilize as a sequel?
Honestly, isn't there enough to write about to make a "middle" movie? You have Arwen and Aragon (and where the "lost heir" came from the in first place), you have saruman and the wizards, you have the beginning rise of Mordor... There are standalone movies built on 1/10th as thick a story as that.

Necessary to make two movies? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21740858)

I'm not sure why two movies are being made other than the obvious "milking it". Rankin-Bass made (ok, a kiddified somewhat silly, but reasonably complete) adaptation that IIRC was less than 1.5 hours. Assuming Jackson makes 2.5 hour movie as per his usual :), I don't see how they will extend this. I mean I guess you can end in like the Misty Mountains or Mirkwood... and really excessively expand the Battle of 5 Armies, but...

Beorn (2, Interesting)

mamono (706685) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740878)

I just hope he doesn't cut out Beorn like the cartoon did. Whereas I thoroughly enjoyed the LOTR movies, I was disappointed when Tom Bombadil was removed.

Re:Beorn (1)

drachenstern (160456) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741042)

AMEN!!!

I was hoping to see him as well, and exhausted many ears while lambasting that particular failure of the movie, while they had all the other stuff going on with the Ents. However, I would also like to have seen many of the Ent songs in the movies as well, along with all the other songs that JRRT took the time to compose/construct.

Or did I just miss something?

Re:Beorn (1)

HockeyPuck (141947) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741270)

You forgot to complain about the lack of Tom Bombadil..

Old Tom Bombadil is a merry fellow;
Bright blue his jacket is and his boots are yellow;
None has ever caught him yet, for Tom he is the master;
His songs are stronger songs and his feet are faster."

Re:Beorn (1)

immcintosh (1089551) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741244)

If recently watching The Golden Compass has taught me anything, it's that bearmen are fucking badasses and clearly belong in any computer generated battles.

Actors ... (2, Insightful)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740882)

Not sure if it would be possible to nab Iam Holm as Bilbo, but here's hoping.

He might be a little old to play Bilbo as he was well cast to play a Bilbo who settled down for quite some time, but much older than Bilbo was when Hobbit happened.

I'm wondering if they'll be able to get Ian McKellen to play Gandalf again. I'm trying to think how many recurrent characters there were across the Hobbit and LOTR -- Bilbo, Gandalf, and maybe Elrond (it's been a long time since I read the Hobbit).

Unless Sir Ian is otherwise booked, I bet he'd love to revive his Gandalf role.

Though, I must confess, I'm a little unsure of what this other sequel is, and TFA appears to have died under the strain.

Does anyone have more info on that?

Cheers

Re:Actors ... (5, Informative)

njfuzzy (734116) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740960)

I believe that Sir Ian McKellen has said that he would be overjoyed to play Gandalf-- but not if Peter Jackson wasn't involved. I would say he's likely to reprise the role, which is more important than Ian Holm (who would clearly be too old) in terms of continuity. I'd say the other big role to worry about would be Gollum.

Re:Actors ... (1)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741034)

I believe that Sir Ian McKellen has said that he would be overjoyed to play Gandalf-- but not if Peter Jackson wasn't involved.

In which case, this project should be in good hands. Sir Ian made a point of taking it seriously and becoming something of a scholar on the work from what I recall. Now, they'll obviously have to start with a smaller budget for the Hobbit than the LOTR saga, but I bet the film companies won't be overly worried about making their money back.

I'd say the other big role to worry about would be Gollum.

Subject to availability, I don't think anyone but the guy who played Gollum in LOTR should be considered. He was amazing.

I'll be curious to see how this plays out.

Cheers

Re:Actors ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21741106)

Remember that Biblo was older when he went with the party on the quest. He was frozen in age *AFTER* he got the ring, if you remember the flashback of him finding the ring in the cave during FOTR, he was the same age. As such, the same actor should be able to play him.

Re:Actors ... (1)

stoolpigeon (454276) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741144)

There is nothing in TFA about the sequel other than mentioning that there will be one. They link to a blog which contains the text of TFA. the hobbit blog [thehobbitblog.com] so you can probably read the article there, but it wont tell you much you don't already know. Lots of studio execs saying nice things about Peter Jackson that they don't believe.

Ian Holm (1)

flogger (524072) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740886)

Most would love to see Ian Holm as Bilbo for continuity. I'd love to see Ian McKellen play Gandalf for that reason. I was pleased to see Ian Holm in Jackson's LotR movies because I was a huge fan of Holm in the BBC radio version: [wikipedia.org] 13 hours of goodness. Off to RTFA now...

Re:Ian Holm (0, Troll)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740996)

I wonder if we could get Dick Chaney [wikipedia.org] to play Smaug?

The Sequel's title will be... (5, Funny)

Korveck (1145695) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740896)

"The daily life of Tom Bombadil, Treebeard, and Radagast" Sponsored by Green Peace.

STOP MAKING FREAKIN PREQUELS (-1, Flamebait)

The Media Mechanic (1084283) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740948)

This is one prequel that makes no sense... we already know pretty much the whole story- Hobbit encounters Golllum, gets the Ring of power, escapes, Gollum hunts him down 50 years later. It's not like Star Wars prequels where they made one-off references to ancient history like "Oh BTW, Clone Wars". No. Instead, in the Lord of the Rings they are very clear about what happened... "Oh I got the ring from Gollum a long time ago, he's a monster that lives in the caves". And, they even SHOW us Gollum pre-ring. So this would be the equivalent of (instead of some vague, mysterious reference to some historical events like in Obi-Wan and Luke's conversation in ANH), "You fought in the Clone Wars?" "Yep, the Clone Wars. Remember the Clone Wars? That's when a bunch of Clone soldiers who were identical copies of each other, fought against a huge Droid Army, and here's a flashback to help jog your memory." No. Instead, George Lucas left it deliberately ambiguous, and that is part of the charm of the original Star Wars, that there were allusions and vague references to this whole backstory, that we only get bits and pieces of. GUESS WHAT THE AUDIENCE HAS A BRAIN ! FILLING IN ALL THE BLANKS IS BORING! PLEASE LEAVE SOME PART UP TO THE AUDIENCE'S IMAGINATION. STOP MAKING FREAKING DUMB PREQUELS THAT NEVER LIVE UP TO THE HYPE ! I WILL PERSONALLY PULL OUT THE NOSE HAIRS OF THE NEXT HOLLYWOOD DIRECTOR TO MAKE A PREQUEL. MAKE SOMETHING ORIGINAL INSTEAD OR I WILL SLAP YOUR FACE WITH A WET NOODLE. Now please excuse me while I go teach my daily "Peace, Relaxation, and Meditation thru Non-Violence" seminar.

Re:STOP MAKING FREAKIN PREQUELS (1)

SirMeliot (864836) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741216)

Uh, you do know it's not a prequel in the Lucas sense don't you? The Hobbit was written first. They just happened to film the sequels first (More $$ I guess).

Re:STOP MAKING FREAKIN PREQUELS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21741228)

Please do not rant on subjects you have no clue on. There has always been a prequel to LOTR, it is called "The Hobbit". Perhaps if you closed your mouth, breathed through your nose, and then realized there are these wonderful things called books, and in general, are better than their on screen translations, you might actually have something insightful to say.

Re:STOP MAKING FREAKIN PREQUELS (1)

Abreu (173023) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741238)

"Oh BTW, Clone Wars".
There is lots of things in the Hobbit that are worthwhile to do in WETA-enhanced cinema
How about:

1- Oh BTW, the Black Forest
2- Oh BTW, escape from the Goblin King
3- Oh BTW, Beorn the Bear-man
4- Oh BTW, the Battle of the Five Armies
5- Oh BTW, A FRIGGIN' HUGE, EVIL DRAGON! ... Did I mention A FRIGGIN' HUGE, EVIL DRAGON!?

i heard good news about smaug (0, Redundant)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 6 years ago | (#21740970)

they are tentatively reimagining smaug:

1. eyes are going to be on stalks
2. big floppy ears
3. speaks in pidgin

sounds like a great improvement for the prequel to the smash trilogy we all know and love!

From Silmarillion to the Red Book? Hope so. (1)

jackpot777 (1159971) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741014)

With two films, there's space to fill in the creation story of Middle Earth, or maybe just concentrate on The Red Book of Westmarch [wikipedia.org] (which contained Elvish stories translated by Bilbo).

I'm hoping for Christmas releases. Going to the movies at Christmas was fun for the three years of The Ring Trilogy. Especially when I realised there was no time left for Shelob in The Two Towers and I'd have to wait another year for the giant spider. Which made sense, considering how half of The Return Of The King (book) consists of a guide to pronouncing words in Elvish.

Who Will Play Gandalf? (1)

curmudgeon99 (1040054) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741024)

The only question I have is if the same actor will be back to play Gandalf. He was awesome and I would only see it if he's in it.

Re:Who Will Play Gandalf? (1)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741296)

That was Magneto [wikipedia.org]

the ending.. (5, Funny)

savuporo (658486) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741048)

I hope they get the the ending right [youtube.com] this time.

Agree With Zonk (1)

immcintosh (1089551) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741126)

Ian Holm did an absolutely fantastic job as Bilbo. Honestly I think he gave the strongest performance of anybody in the cast in any of the three films. I would love to see him in The Hobbit, although I imagine they'd have to make him up to appear a bit younger.

Noooooo! (0, Redundant)

6-tew (1037428) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741148)

I was really disappointed with the changes in the LOTR. I understand omissions (it's a long book), but just changing characters and dialogue and making up stuff? I was surprised they kept the names. Seriously, I was. Why not just make an original film if you're going to change everything? Why bother wrecking (IMHO) someone else' work?

So I'm not too excited about this. I can't wait to see what "improvements" they'll make.

If they like the book so much that they have to altered everything... well I'm beating a dead horse.

My thoughts... (1)

east coast (590680) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741164)

At one point I heard that Jackson said he could make a 40 hour adoption of The Hobbit. While it could be done it certainly wouldn't entertain today's audience.

Instead I think that the second film should be an "off adventure" not written by Tolkien but rather a modernized epic. It would be Bilbo looking for some obscure treasure of a distant relative where he pairs up with Billy Crystal, Daniel Stern and Eddie Murphy (Sorry, but with the passing of Bruno Kirby and Jack Palance I just can't find a suitable third). They would go to Mirkwood in search of this treasure, hilarity will ensue.

It will be called The Shire Slickers: Curley's Midget Brother's Silver Horde.

Hey, Pete, if you're reading this give me a call. I have a million ideas. Really.

LOTR actors (5, Insightful)

syrinx (106469) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741170)

I don't think Ian Holm will be able to be cast as Bilbo... they made him look younger for a brief shot in LOTR, but from what I remember it involved stretching the skin on his face, etc, and wouldn't be workable for a full movie.

Ian McKellen and Andy Serkis I believe have both said they'd be very interested in coming back for a Hobbit movie as Gandalf and Gollum. The only other cross-over character bookwise would be Elrond; I don't know if Hugo Weaving has said anything one way or the other. (I suppose there was some guy in the FOTR movie who was ostensibly Gloin at the council scene, but I don't think anyone would notice if he came back or not...)

They could sneak in cameos from other actors I suppose; there's nothing saying Legolas wasn't hanging out with his father in the Elves' home in Mirkwood. I don't know that I want Legolas showing up at the Battle of Five Armies to surf on an eagle shooting down wargs though.

(Hey, so about 7 years in between accepted Slashdot submissions. Roland, I'm catching up!)

good, might as well ruin the Hobbit too (0, Flamebait)

EllynGeek (824747) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741218)

Might as well ruin all of Tolkein's books with omissions, ridiculous embellishments, and seriously stupid stuff- nothing like having the complete set.

Dear Mr. Jackson, here's a free hint: trust the story. You are no Tolkein- every time you deviated from Tolkein's books for LOTR you added stupidity and detracted from the story. Don't write- just film the book. Thank you.

I wonder who will replace... (1)

Godwin O'Hitler (205945) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741220)

...Arwen as the completely pointless character he wastes a good half hour of film time on?
The novel The Hobbit was written for children. I bet the film isn't.

Is anyone else scared by this? (1)

Groo Wanderer (180806) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741252)

No, not Jackson + Hobbit, but the unnamed sequel bit. Once Hollywood and the content mafiaa get their claws into it, I can see "Hobbit: Vengance" starring Bruce Willis. The tag line, "More explosive action than any other Middle Earth movie EVER!!!!". Shudder.

              -Charlie

This would make the BEST sequel ever (2, Insightful)

hellfire (86129) | more than 6 years ago | (#21741288)

I think Ben Stiller and Vince Vaughn came up with the best idea for a LotR sequel EVAR! Maybe this is what they mean? :)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=EqMV_3JusXY [youtube.com]
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