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CEO of Red Hat Steps Down

Soulskill posted more than 6 years ago | from the big-hat-to-fill dept.

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bearer_of_bad_news points us to a C|net article which states that Matthew Szulik is stepping down as the president and chief executive of Red Hat. Szulik is citing family health reasons, and he plans to remain chairman of the board. Red Hat has indicated that his replacement will be former Delta Airlines COO James Whitehurst. Quoting the article: "On a conference call, Szulik said Whitehurst stood 'head and shoulders' above other candidates interviewed in a recruiting process. He was a programmer earlier in his career and runs four versions of Linux at home." We discussed Szulik's ascension to CEO back in 1999.

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ut oh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21775462)

> He was a programmer earlier in his career and runs four versions of Linux at home.

Unfortunately he's using Gnome as his desktop!

Re:ut oh (3, Funny)

Aussie (10167) | more than 6 years ago | (#21775692)

but is he Emacs or Vi ?

Some insight into Matthew Szulik (0)

suso (153703) | more than 6 years ago | (#21775912)

Actually, this is a good question. I'm a bit worried because Matthew is a "Linux person". I had the chance to meet him when he come to Bloomington and he has been with Red Hat since the mid 90s and has been a Linux user all this time. I doubt the same could be said for the Delta guy, but maybe not?

I imagine that it really is family reasons. That's too bad. He was really leading the company into global markets and was meeting with some very important people around the world.

Re:Some insight into Matthew Szulik (4, Insightful)

Daniel Phillips (238627) | more than 6 years ago | (#21776568)

Actually, this is a good question. I'm a bit worried because Matthew is a "Linux person". I had the chance to meet him when he come to Bloomington and he has been with Red Hat since the mid 90s and has been a Linux user all this time. I doubt the same could be said for the Delta guy, but maybe not?
Bringing in somebody who is not only has no open source credentials but no tech credentials at all? You can tell me all the head and shoulders stories you like, but this amounts to nothing more than another step in Red Hat losing the plot. The slide started years ago, however the rapid expansion of the Linux server market tended to keep Red Hat's missteps from translating immediately into poor financial performance. Now it is way too obvious to ignore. If you think for a moment I am sure you will remember a few of the more egregious community relations fiascos, hostile takeovers of community projects, burning the desktop community, etc. It is just those self inflicted wounds that are hurting Red Hat now, and what do they do? Bring in an airlines guy. Sheesh. It shows you just how far Red Hat management has drifted from reality. Remember the Pepsicola guy who ran Apple into the ground.

Re:Some insight into Matthew Szulik (5, Insightful)

hdparm (575302) | more than 6 years ago | (#21776700)

You, Sir, clearly have no idea whatsoever what you are talking about.

One of the major reasons why Red Hat will soon become $1Bn+ revenue company is the fact that they invested so much into community through Fedora Project. Everybody and their dog bitch about RH product line discontinuation, forgetting that the code base has been split into two superior products, unparalleled in the Linux world. Slowly but steadily Fedora has largely been put back to community care. Community that has learned A LOT from Red Hat and gave back enormous amount of code improvements to various upstream projects. CentOS is there, too - another proof of how much Red Hat Inc. actually care.

They know what they are doing. If they say that James Whitehurst is culturally good fit, I believe them.

Re:Some insight into Matthew Szulik (2, Insightful)

Daniel Phillips (238627) | more than 6 years ago | (#21777032)

One of the major reasons why Red Hat will soon become $1Bn+ revenue company is the fact that they invested so much into community through Fedora Project. Everybody and their dog bitch about RH product line discontinuation, forgetting that the code base has been split into two superior products, unparalleled in the Linux world. Slowly but steadily Fedora has largely been put back to community care
Oh really? Red Hat appoints five members of the fedora board and only 4 are elected, assuring Red Hat of complete control over the project. Community, bah.

CentOS is there, too - another proof of how much Red Hat Inc. actually care.
Why do you suppose CentOS would exist if Fedora is the be all and end all of community projects? Oh right, CentOS is not controlled by Red Hat.

They know what they are doing. If they say that James Whitehurst is culturally good fit, I believe them.
Highly skeptical that an airline exec can learn the open source business. What Red Hat needs is somebody who can go play with the community. Now there is the claim he runs Linux and was once a programmer, OK, that is tech credentials of sorts. A far cry from participating in a tech organization or having a clue how the community off which Red Hat feeds works and works together. Who is going to teach him that? Matt? No sir. Matt is basically not there with the community. A few speeches, platitudes, lots of talk, very little walk. Has a bad habit of hiring managers with no open source credentials whatsoever, who busy themselves with laying waste to whatever community spirit Red Hat once had.

Re:Some insight into Matthew Szulik (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21777292)

Oh really? Red Hat appoints five members of the fedora board and only 4 are elected, assuring Red Hat of complete control over the project. Community, bah.
Red Hat hire good people. They by and large hire *from the community*, the ones passionate about it. And they back it all up with paid developer time.

Which Fedora board member in particular, or which block-vote they've made, do you object to?

Re:Some insight into Matthew Szulik (1, Insightful)

Daniel Phillips (238627) | more than 6 years ago | (#21777322)

Red Hat hire good people. They by and large hire *from the community*, the ones passionate about it. And they back it all up with paid developer time.
Red Hat is a revolving door for community people. A few stick, many find the dysfunctional management just too much to take.

Re:Some insight into Matthew Szulik (2, Insightful)

module0000 (882745) | more than 6 years ago | (#21778026)

Red Hat is a revolving door for community people. A few stick, many find the dysfunctional management just too much to take.
Do you work for Red Hat?

Obviously you have a boulder-sized chip on your shoulder about them, and lots of opinions about their inner workings.

Either (a) you work for them and have an issue. Or (b) you don't work for them and are a FUD spreading dipshit.

Re:Some insight into Matthew Szulik (1)

Wdomburg (141264) | more than 6 years ago | (#21777768)

Why do you suppose CentOS would exist if Fedora is the be all and end all of community projects? Oh right, CentOS is not controlled by Red Hat.


Um, too completely different goals? Fedora is cutting (sometimes bleeding) edge, CentOS/RHEL is conservative with a long support cycle.

Re:ut oh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21775932)

He uses RH. So an X based GUI text editor.

Re:ut oh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21775994)

nano

Nano rocks! (1)

furbearntrout (1036146) | more than 6 years ago | (#21776284)

Nano has a very discoverable interface. With the other terminal mode editors, you have to go through the docs, etc;just to save (or even edit) the file you're working on. In nano the necessary shortcuts ar right there on the status line. It saved from having to reinstall windows and just give up on this "free software" stuff, more than once. I still haven't got the key bindings for emacs or vi down yet.

Re:Nano rocks! (2, Funny)

smitty_one_each (243267) | more than 6 years ago | (#21776452)

The only thing you need to learn in Emacs is C-h C-h (hold down the control key and tap 'h' twice).
The uber-help menu will take you where you need to go.
When befuddled, M-x doctor (Alt-x, then type 'doctor' in the mini-buffer) will call up Eliza, the built-in doctor.
Can't confirm if this is really Dr. Eliza Spaceman (spuh-chay-man), the parent of Dr. Leo Spaceman [wikipedia.org] on 30 Rock [wikipedia.org], but it is fun to speculate.
With service like this, how can these pagan infidels denigrate the Esteemed Mother Amongst Computer Software?

4 versions of Linux (1)

calebt3 (1098475) | more than 6 years ago | (#21775474)

runs four versions of Linux at home
And Red Hat isn't one of them. Neither is Fedora.

Re:4 versions of Linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21775526)

Actually Fedora IS one of them ... See http://spevack.livejournal.com/40827.html [livejournal.com].

Re:4 versions of Linux (2, Funny)

cumin (1141433) | more than 6 years ago | (#21775736)

one of my co-workers who did told me that Jim mentioned that he runs Fedora on one of his computers, and is very much a Linux user. This brought a smile to my face.

No wait, what?!? You're kidding right? The idea that the new CEO might not be a Linux user, or might not run Red Hat software is so plausible that the confirmation that he is a "Linux user" is seen as noteworthy? What the heck? Would they consider putting someone in that position who was "a Mac user" or "a Windows user" or even "sometimes uses Linux?"

I know very little about Jim, but geez, the idea that it could be any other way makes me shudder to think.

Yes. I shudder when I think. I think it is a venereal disease I got from fsking a penguin.

Re:4 versions of Linux (4, Insightful)

spevack (210449) | more than 6 years ago | (#21775970)

No wait, what?!? You're kidding right? The idea that the new CEO might not be a Linux user, or might not run Red Hat software is so plausible that the confirmation that he is a "Linux user" is seen as noteworthy? What the heck? Would they consider putting someone in that position who was "a Mac user" or "a Windows user" or even "sometimes uses Linux?"

Seeing as you are commenting on my blog post, let me concur with you:

*I* think it would be insane to hire someone to be Red Hat's CEO who isn't a Linux user. But I am just one Red Hat employee. Keep in mind the perspective -- shock that the CEO of your company is stepping down, and sadness because he's a great leader who everyone respects. So hearing "not only is the new guy a Linux user, but he knows and uses Fedora" would make you smile at that moment.

That is all.

Re:4 versions of Linux (1)

deragon (112986) | more than 6 years ago | (#21777462)

In an ideal world, I would agree with you. But finding a CEO which knows and make use of Linux must be practically impossible. If it wasn't for James Whitehurs, Red Hat would have a hard time finding someone else from the outside. Of course, you can always pick someone from the inside, but you reduce substantially the pool of people who have CEO qualities.

Re:4 versions of Linux (1)

Mr. Underbridge (666784) | more than 6 years ago | (#21777958)

Of course, you can always pick someone from the inside, but you reduce substantially the pool of people who have CEO qualities.

The other problems with promoting from within are:

1) You now have another job vacancy to fill, and presumably are losing someone very good at their job (otherwise, why promote them?)

2) There will probably be resentment from his new subordinates who were his former peers. This can lead to people leaving, and sometimes can cause the new boss to overdo the 'alpha dog' thing as he tries to gain their respect/obedience.

Of course, there can be advantages to an inside promotion, but one has to recognize the problems too.

Re:4 versions of Linux (1)

Professor_UNIX (867045) | more than 6 years ago | (#21777750)

Red Hat is a business and is selling a product. What operating system the CEO runs is irrelevant as long as he knows how to market a product and keep a company afloat. In fact, maybe it would be a good thing to diversify Red Hat a little more and bring some of their enterprise products to other platforms like Windows and MacOS since the Linux market isn't really growing as fast as anyone had hoped. By embracing Windows and MacOS they could open new markets to their enterprise offerings.

Re:4 versions of Linux (5, Insightful)

Bruzer (191590) | more than 6 years ago | (#21776000)

a "Linux user" is seen as noteworthy? What the heck?
I disagree with you and think it IS noteworthy, and of special interest to the Slashdot audience.

Many CEOs appear more like lawyers or salesmen/women. They may be very smart, but don't strike me as technical minded.

Running 4 different distributions of Linux implies a fair bit of technical knowledge, more than Windows and Mac usage. I find that I use more console commands in Linux than the other operating systems, and to know those commands requires reading man pages or other documentation, something that the average user may not do.

Each distribution of Linux can have different configuration commands and nuances. You may know how to configure the sound card on one distribution but another distribution can be totally different.

Linux comes pre-installed on only a few PCs, and I am going to assume the four systems didn't come with Linux. Most of the time you have to install and often configure it which is (and lets be honest) can be more difficult than Windows or Mac OS.

The bottom line is I don't know of many CEO type people that use Linux at home. I don't think the CEO of my company could do anything productive with Linux without significant help from technical staff, much less install and configure it at home for personal use.

I think the CEO candidate of a Linux company using Linux at home is noteworthy, relevant, and interesting.

Re:4 versions of Linux (1)

uncqual (836337) | more than 6 years ago | (#21776640)

A new CEO of RH using four versions of Linux at home is interesting. But, if I were an investor, I would prefer that he ran one or one version of Linux, a recent (preferably a server version) version of Windows, a recent version of Mac (ideally Leopard), a version of Open Solaris, and perhaps something out of the mainstream. RH's competitor is not other Linux version, it's Windows, Solaris, and perhaps AIX (and, on the desktop, perhaps Mac).

Re:4 versions of Linux (1)

init100 (915886) | more than 6 years ago | (#21776706)

The bottom line is I don't know of many CEO type people that use Linux at home.

Michael Dell?

Re:4 versions of Linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21777346)

No wait, what?!? You're kidding right? The idea that the new CEO might not be a Linux user, or might not run Red Hat software is so plausible that the confirmation that he is a "Linux user" is seen as noteworthy? What the heck? Would they consider putting someone in that position who was "a Mac user" or "a Windows user" or even "sometimes uses Linux?"
Because that's not his job. He's there to run the business not make the tech decisions. That's a completely different skillset.

Now if the CTO didn't run Linux we'd have a problem.

Re:4 versions of Linux (1)

greenrd (47933) | more than 6 years ago | (#21777482)

Because that's not his job. He's there to run the business not make the tech decisions. That's a completely different skillset.

Now if the CTO didn't run Linux we'd have a problem.

But Red Hat's business is tech. If he didn't know anything about Linux or open source he'd be unsuited for the job. Risk of cultural mismatch, for one thing.

I remember (5, Insightful)

renegadesx (977007) | more than 6 years ago | (#21775476)

I remember the 1999 article about Szulik rising to CEO level. Since then Red Hat has done alot and have become very successful in their business model.

Not to mention making a rival in Oracle after buying JBoss, so in retaliation we see Unbreakable Linux.
And despite Novell's best efforts and prostituting themselves out to Microsoft we still see Red Hat in the #1 position.

Red Hat will do great without him (a company after all is bigger than one man) but we have seen a company growing so well under his leadership and that speaks volumes

Euphemisms (-1, Troll)

Frosty Piss (770223) | more than 6 years ago | (#21775502)

Szulik is citing family health reasons
OK, so in the world of corporate euphemisms, that means what? The board isn't happy with him why?

Re: Euphemisms (5, Funny)

eln (21727) | more than 6 years ago | (#21775540)

It means the board told him if he didn't step down, his family would soon be in very poor health.

Re: Euphemisms (2, Interesting)

darkrowan (976992) | more than 6 years ago | (#21775988)

I've always understood 'Family Reasons' to mean he wanted to quit, and 'To explore other opportunities' was 'don't let the door hit you on the ass'.

Re: Euphemisms (2, Insightful)

jamesh (87723) | more than 6 years ago | (#21775926)

OK, so in the world of corporate euphemisms, that means what?

Or maybe it means family health reasons... it's always hard to tell.

Re: Euphemisms (3, Insightful)

Cal Paterson (881180) | more than 6 years ago | (#21775952)

Seeing as he plans to remain chairman of the board, that seems doubtful

Re: Euphemisms (4, Insightful)

kripkenstein (913150) | more than 6 years ago | (#21776222)

OK, so in the world of corporate euphemisms, that means what? The board isn't happy with him why?
Seeing as he plans to remain chairman of the board, that seems doubtful
Mod parent up.

Indeed, if 'family health reasons' was a euphemism for something, he wouldn't be left on the board, especially not as chairman. No, it looks like this is exactly what it appears to be: Szulik has a family member with health issues that require Szulik's full attention. This is presumably a very sad and difficult situation, one that we wouldn't wish on anyone.

The only consolation, and a very partial one at that, is that Szulik has the financial means to indeed leave his job and devote himself to doing his best for his family.

Re: Euphemisms (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21777170)

This is grave news for an Operating System installed on the majority of the worlds Linux web servers, the OLPC, along with JBoss representing 25% (2005) of the Application Server market?

Re: Euphemisms (1)

Hal_Porter (817932) | more than 6 years ago | (#21777788)

Maybe it's like in Socialist countries, where you could go from General Secretary of the Communist Party and Head of the Armed Forces, to General Secretary of the Communist Party, to Chairman of the People's Assembly, to Assistant Deputy Chair of the North Siberian Republic People's Assembly, to prisoner number 14856734 in People's Reformation Of Incorrect Thoughts Through Death Camp Number 8763, North Siberia.

Re: Euphemisms (0)

Pros_n_Cons (535669) | more than 6 years ago | (#21776082)

Nothing hidden here I dont think. profits are up 12% this quarter per usual This company really has its stuff together IMO i hope it continues to without Szulik who was a big reason for the companys direction.

Re: Euphemisms (-1)

Daniel Phillips (238627) | more than 6 years ago | (#21776822)

Nothing hidden here I dont think. profits are up 12% this quarter per usual This company really has its stuff together IMO i hope it continues to without Szulik who was a big reason for the companys direction.
Revenue up 12% you mean. That is a big warning sign, it is roughly the rate of growth of the server market as a whole, and a huge deceleration from the growth rate over the last few years. Numbers like this indicate a growth company moving into a mature phase, except Red Hat is way too young to be moving into a mature phase.

Re: Euphemisms (2, Informative)

Daniel Phillips (238627) | more than 6 years ago | (#21776916)

Actually, no, Red Hat revenue and profit are way up, 20% and 39% respectively, mea culpa. Somebody mod parent into oblivion please. Red Hat is still growing just fine.

Nope... It means that... (1)

CptnHarlock (136449) | more than 6 years ago | (#21776318)

...after all these years he still can't find his sister and her health is detiriorating. I hear she's supposedly somewhere around the Den though. Well, good luck Sulik!

family health reasons (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21775522)

is that a euphemism for "he plans to pull off a Reiser"?

Delta is perhaps (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21775544)

The worst Airline i've ever traveled on and sadly their customer service, from top to bottom; is horrid. There are even fully dedicated [deltareallysucks.com] sites describing how bad the service is. Hell, just see for yourself [google.com]. Seeing as the COO's job is to make sure that said Corporation or company is operating to serve it's customers at the behest of the almighty dollar. I have a very strong feeling that Redhat is in for an extremely bumpy ride. I'm actually really sad to read that this appointment is going to take place. It's hard not to hold Delta's performance against him really.

Re:Delta is perhaps (4, Insightful)

pclminion (145572) | more than 6 years ago | (#21775592)

Dude, the article indicates that the everybody who interviewed him was impressed. If that's true, and he really is a moron, that means that everybody ELSE at RedHat is also a moron. And if THAT'S the case, then it was fucked anyway. One man can't sink a ship. Okay, if he has several pounds of explosive he can sink a ship. Let's check his pockets.

Re:Delta is perhaps (4, Insightful)

samkass (174571) | more than 6 years ago | (#21775656)

It's actually surprisingly hard to weed out the morons. It's especially hard to weed out the seemingly normal people who will go bonkers on you down the line. Interviewing well is one of the most difficult (and important) thing a company can possibly do, IMHO.

Re:Delta is perhaps (2, Funny)

explosivejared (1186049) | more than 6 years ago | (#21775782)

It's actually surprisingly hard to weed out the morons

/. moderation seems to do it pretty well. (glances at most recent YRO comments).... oh wait... nevermind.

Re:Delta is perhaps (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21775728)

This has nothing to do with running a company like Redhat. Listen, there are a lot of smart people; some people can run companies. Some people can not, no matter how smart or well they interview. Based on Delta's performance and general customer service, there is NO WAY I feel comfortable having the COO from Delta running Redhat. There is simply no confidence in that hire, NONE. Now you may say, well Delta was an airline so the customers of Redhat are different and you'd be right. However, if as COO he couldn't get delta's customer service right what makes you think he'll be able to handle the demanding needs and vision a company like Redhat needs for its own customers? How hard is it to put a customer on a plane, put their luggage on the plane, barring mother nature getting them from point A to point B with some semblance of time. How hard is it to setup a program by which your employees adhere to a code of conduct? Why wasn't it done; if at the end of the day it amounts to money, that's still a telling degree of what's to come. You're free to give the guy the benefit of the doubt but I sure as hell will not.

Re:Delta is perhaps (1)

slartibart (669913) | more than 6 years ago | (#21778112)

I don't know, I am not sure how much Delta's poor service reflects on the COO. First of all, the airline industry is extremely competitive. A lot of air travelers are willing to put up with poor service in return for cheaper tickets. So cutting costs on service isn't a bad business move.

Second, just because cheaping out on service was the strategy at Delta, doesn't mean that's going to be the strategy at Red Hat. I think the guy would have to be a moron not to realize that service is Red Hat's bread and butter. At Delta, service is secondary to getting a traveler from point A to B at minimum cost. Let's give the guy a little credit.

Re:Delta is perhaps (1)

wizardforce (1005805) | more than 6 years ago | (#21775754)

he can sink a ship if he steers them into an "iceberg" or for that matter "doesn't know there is an iceberg" like the titanic.

Re:Delta is perhaps (1)

kcbrown (7426) | more than 6 years ago | (#21776172)

Dude, the article indicates that the everybody who interviewed him was impressed.

Yeah, well, the article doesn't indicate who interviewed him, so this "everybody who interviewed him was impressed" statement doesn't necessarily carry much weight.

I'm going to reserve judgment here until we see what this guy actually does, but it's folly to ignore past results, particularly if they're associated with the very thing the guy will be responsible for in his new role.

Since RedHat is apparently rather successful thus far, it seems like it would be a better move to recruit from within (as long as you promote the most competent people, not the least).

Re:Delta is perhaps (1)

Knuckles (8964) | more than 6 years ago | (#21776220)

Yeah, well, the article doesn't indicate who interviewed him, so this "everybody who interviewed him was impressed" statement doesn't necessarily carry much weight.

Yeah, I think at RedHat, candidates for the CEO position are interviewed by a panel of gardener, janitor, and head of cleaning personnel.

Re:Delta is perhaps (1)

jimicus (737525) | more than 6 years ago | (#21776586)

Finding decent staff is damn hard at any level - because at every level you have timewasters, fools, people who are applying for something they're way underqualified for, people who are applying for something they're way overqualified for and former HP executives.

Out of that list of people you really don't want to hire, a certain number can probably bluff their way through the interview process. Every company of any decent size has hired at least a few staff who they've wished they didn't.

Re:Delta is perhaps (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21777504)

Yeah dude, they did check his pockets. But all they found were knives and lint..

Re:Delta is perhaps (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21775618)

That site can't possibly be for real. All the articles are written by "Administrator", in the first person, about bad Delta experiences. If this person hates Delta so much why the fuck do they still fly on Delta? What a load.

Nice troll though.

Re:Delta is perhaps (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21775654)

I REALLY hate Delta as well. Shittiest flight I ever took was from San Diego to Salt Lake City where I had a stop over. I changed airlines in Salt Lake City. My knees were bruised from being jammed into the seat in front of me on the Delta flight, and while I am tall I am not an NBA basketball player or anything. And there was basically NO service on the flight. I will never fly Delta again.

Re:Delta is perhaps (1)

rsidd (6328) | more than 6 years ago | (#21776360)

the worst Airline i've ever traveled on

I don't think they're worse than any other US-based airline. From what I've heard, Northwest is by far the worst, but the rest of them rank pretty close (I've only flown Delta, AA, US Airways). Airlines in Europe and Asia are orders of magnitude better.

Re:Delta is perhaps (1)

testadicazzo (567430) | more than 6 years ago | (#21776484)

This is getting a bit off-topic, but Delta can't compete with Air-Tran for chronically bad service. My experience with Air-Tran was so horrible I can't bring myself to tell the whole story. But, I will say that my crappy experience seemed to be the norm, as opposed to being an unlucky extreme. I had to stand in line waiting 3 hours to reschedule my connecting flight, since they had overbooked. The line never got shorter. As I watched, new people populated the line at about the same rate, or greater, than the poor customer service agents could handle. And that wasn't even the crappy part about my experience with them: dishonest service, destroyed and lost luggage (yes both), unfriendly and downright problematic (not to mention stupid) check-in staff. God I get angry just thinking about it. Delta's got their shit together by comparison.

Release the haters (1)

pembo13 (770295) | more than 6 years ago | (#21775570)

I can just feel the energy as RedHat hatters relish the words that they are soon to release upon Slashdot.

Re:Release the haters (2)

FudRucker (866063) | more than 6 years ago | (#21776850)

hate Redhat? no, i can not hate Redhat, Redhat-7.1 was my first taste of Linux, i thought it was the greatest thing since the invention of the lightbulb, or peanutbutter & sliced bread (you get my point), by the time Redhat-7.3 was released i seen Redhat was targeting a different audience than what i was, Redhat seemed more interested in providing a product for businesses (enterprise & corporate desktops & servers), i was just a hobbyist that loved the PC, and grown tired of ms-windows vulnerabilities and other malware shenanigans (basically windows is a dirty racket), so i start hunting for a distro to call home and found Slackware, been a happy slacker ever since = has excellent out of the box development tools making it easy to rebuild & install a customized vanilla kernel & just about any other application i desire to rebuild, makes a great audio/video & graphics desktop/workstation for me, whew! glad i did not have to blow a couple of grand on a Macintosh...

- my other brain doesn't know good spelling and grammar either...

Re:Release the haters (1)

Dr. Smoove (1099425) | more than 6 years ago | (#21777864)

Are you really comparing a slackware PC to a Mac? Apples and Chickens man... and Slackware is a PITA sometimes (I used it from 7.0 to 10). You're right in that it's perfect pretty much for someone who likes to tinker and mess around with Linux and their computer, but in terms of general usability it's not that great.

Re:Release the haters (1)

FudRucker (866063) | more than 6 years ago | (#21777938)

RE:["If you plant ice, you're gonna harvest wind."]

no! if you plant ice you get Popsicles...

does he use mandriva? (-1, Troll)

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I apply a strong bent knee to the crater, forcing the ring until the patella
pops in. Circling my knee, I get the now grotesquely extended sphincter to
stretch even further. Slowly I slide more and more of my bent leg through
the breach, extracting heartbreaking screams from the tortured boy.

It's time for what I really have in mind. I take my knee out, with a loud
PLOP!, open Tom's legs, taking a good grip on his strong thighs, brace
myself and plunge, shoving the top of my head inside his asshole!

My shaven, smooth pate almost fits into the gargantuan gap of what used to
be, not too long ago, the young man's tight anus. I wriggle my head, shake
it to and fro, slowly shoving the top inside, using the surfer's flesh ring
as a new kind of crown.

Surprised at the size of this new invader, Tom brays like a butchered
animal, struggling to free himself from my grip. That only makes my job
easier, as I jam more and more of my head into his open grotto.

I'm up to my ears into Tom's gorgeous butt, enjoying his warmth and tight
embrace of my skull, and even though it may kill him, I have to go further.
I pick a respirator in the CPR box and stick the two tubes into my nostrils.
I'm now ready to dive into the helpless surfer.

I close my eyes and plunge in. Breathing through the respirator, I have now
my whole head inside the boy, feeling his fast heartbeat loud in my ears,
the sweet mucous of his bowels mixed with all the cum I have poured inside
him, and the appeal of the tunnel ahead, calling me to unplugged depths.

I start to move my head back and forth, fucking Tom with a really gigantic
black phallus, while he goes back to sucking my cock. He seems to be more
relaxed now, geting used to the new invasion, and aroused by the extra
pressure in his guts.

I open my mouth and bite into the tender flesh, until I find my prize: the
hard truffle of the boy's prostate, that I roll between my teeth and tickle
with my tongue. I feel Tom's whole body shaking around my head. He's cumming
again!

His convulsing bowels squeeze my head, trying to swallow more of me. It's a
pity but my heavy shoulders are too wide to fit into the boy, otherwise I'd
keep on plunging inside him.

Satisfied with this new experience, I pull my head out with a loud PLOP! The
boy has survived. Even better, he has enjoyed a massive orgasm, with my head
fucking his butt. He's ready for more cock. But he's now too loose for
Grossao to take care of him alone.

So I call Junior, the other lifeguard on duty, to help me. He runs up the
stairs, happy to oblige. He has been listening from downstairs to the sounds
of Tom's rape, and I know he's hard and ready, as always, to help me out.
He's a big black stud like me, with a huge dick, almost as big as Grossao.
Tom's torment is far from over.

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Airline? (3, Funny)

jeffkjo1 (663413) | more than 6 years ago | (#21775590)

The former head of an airline to take over the reigns at <insert business here>???.... that makes about as much sense as letting the former head of an airline take over the reigns at <insert business here>.

Oh... wait...

Re:Airline? (4, Funny)

dosius (230542) | more than 6 years ago | (#21775646)

Or the former head of a soda company taking over the CEO role at a computer manufacturer...oh wait...

-uso.

Re:Airline? (1)

seanadams.com (463190) | more than 6 years ago | (#21776512)

Or the former head of a soda company taking over the CEO role at a computer manufacturer...oh wait...

Not sure what you meant by the "oh wait". That was John Sculley, not Steve Jobs, and by the time he left in 1993 he had brought the company to its knees.

Re:Airline? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21775772)

Well, the good news is that the new guy is expected to be great at controlling costs. The bad news is that now all of your packets will have a stopover in Atlanta.

Re:Airline? (2, Funny)

jd (1658) | more than 6 years ago | (#21775846)

Depends on whether you want something that crashes. If you do, an airline exec would be the ideal choice.

Re:Airline? (1)

websitebroke (996163) | more than 6 years ago | (#21778038)

Actually, the safety record of airlines overall is incredibly good. Do you know anyone who has been in an airline crash? Compare that number to the number of people you know who have been in an automobile crash.

Re:Airline? (4, Funny)

Plutonite (999141) | more than 6 years ago | (#21775882)

-I just hope my processes don't get scheduling like Delta flights.

-It would be awesome if Fedora gets renamed to Redhat Linux Economy Edition.

-
1)Allow more packets to be sent than you can possibly handle
2)Delay said packets citing bad network conditions
3)????
4)Profit! ...etc..etc

Re:Airline? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21776102)

just hope my processes don't get scheduling like Delta flights.
Seriously. Did a three week business trip through Lyon and Hamburg a few years ago on Delta+Air France. They have some sort of partnership. Every single flight of the 8 involved was late and bags were lost in de Gaulle and some little US airport. Total nightmare. Anyhow, that was my first thought when I read about this former Delta COO.

The fate of Linux is not in the hands of RedHat. I'm running Linux exclusively on my personal and work machines. Windows is relegated to a various VMs. Not one box is running a RedHat distribution. On the other hand, going by recent stats [lwn.net] no other Linux vendor contributes as many Kernel man hours as RedHat, so I wish them the best. If I needed to provision a large production machine RedHat is still my first choice. That's their focus and they do it well.

James, the moment you begin to think of your developers as a 'cost center' it's time to go run some other company.

Re:Airline? (1)

spyowl (838397) | more than 6 years ago | (#21776248)

4)Profit! ...etc..etc
This is where most of the airline industry separates itself from the pack. What you really meant was:

4) Lose money, declare bankruptcy, and beg government for free money, tax breaks, and subsidies! ...etc..etc

Re:Airline? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21777766)

Or RedHat Enterprise Edition becomes RedHat Business Class Edition...

Not just any airline, the corp parent of Comair (2, Interesting)

RCSInfo (847666) | more than 6 years ago | (#21775890)

Remember when this [slashdot.org] happened? Interesting choice bringing in a manager whose company experienced a very publicized computer crash during his tenure. Hopefully Mr. Whitehurst carries forward some of the lessons learned from that experience.

5 posts and no reigns-REINS correction yet? (1)

xxxJonBoyxxx (565205) | more than 6 years ago | (#21775954)

5 posts and no reigns-REINS correction yet? Yeesh.

Seriously, though, can someone translate Szulik's last little bit of CEO-speak for me?

"When there is zero expectation of financial remuneration, everything is Hollywood."

Old Discussion (2, Funny)

Khakionion (544166) | more than 6 years ago | (#21775702)

It's funny reading the old discussion about the CEO's ascension...

"More Alpha support!" "YellowDog is good enough for PPC!" "Alpha users need to band together!"

Heh.

Too late to do any good for Red Hat (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21775966)

I'm speaking as somebody who saw how close-up how the executive level worked at Red Hat for two years. I saw a lot of bad decisions that were made systematically, dooming Red Hat to a mere niche in the software market.

Red Hat passed up a lot of opportunities, all to satisfy the MBAs and their cronies who took over during Szulik's reign and eased out the founding generation. The problem was that the company became obsessed by meeting financial goals in the short term instead of using their good will and war chest to make deeper, longer term plays to become open source providers for every major software category. Hal Covert (briefly Red Hat CFO) understood this, and Szulik punted him - Covert was probably Red Hat's last chance for greatness.

That's the reason that their stock price has been stagnant for four years - because Red Hat became a predictable, by-the-numbers company that was incapable of making the kind of bold moves that (for example) Google makes. Because he behaved like an accountant instead of an entrepreneur, Szulik squandered Red Hat's future just to find a stable financial base for the present. Worse, he did it at a time when the market was forgiving long term plays left and right, even after the 2000 tech crash. His leaving is about 6 years too late, Red Hat could have been a software giant bringing open source methodology to the entire industry, instead of a mere provider of support for enterprise Linux.

Re:Too late to do any good for Red Hat (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21776612)

So glad to see you have an internet connection, Mr. Covert! And a computer, too! Or are you at the local library?

a good man (4, Interesting)

davejenkins (99111) | more than 6 years ago | (#21775986)

I worked for Red Hat from 2001-2004, and I will say that Matthew Szulik is a good man. He is one of those types that remembers everyone in the room, and remembers your name even though you haven't spoken to him for weeks or months. It was a crazy time, taking the company through the transition from start-up to 'real' company. His emails were sometimes non-sequitir stream of conciousness things, but at other times were very visionary and helpful.

It was great to work for a company where everyone felt they were on a mission-- good times, good times.

Good Luck, Mr Szulik.

The next version of Red Hat ... (3, Funny)

DraconPern (521756) | more than 6 years ago | (#21776026)

The next version of Red Hat Linux will ...
- No longer come with any entertaiment software.
- Have nice icons and background that cost extra, and
- Be delayed from original release date because...
- there will be a major restructuring, while
- all the programmers go on strike.
 

Chuck Norris (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21776052)

Chuck Norris doesn't run four versions of Linux at home.

All versions of Linux run from Chuck Norris.

Crook (1)

Newton IV (666922) | more than 6 years ago | (#21776150)

The translation of Szulik from Russian is "crook" In Soviet Russia, ...

Re:Crook (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21777546)

No. Russians think Sulik is that guy with sledge hammer & grampy bone from Fallout 2.

Some of the greats (1)

mcrbids (148650) | more than 6 years ago | (#21776214)

Another great guy from Red Hat is Bob Young [lulu.com] who went on to start LULU.com [lulu.com]. This guy really groks the whole "open source" thing. Since I've built my million-dollar business on the back of RedHat Linux, I can say with complete honesty, I really appreciate their efforts!

This is a masterstroke! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21776440)

What is the one thing that Open Source needs to take over the world sooner rather than later? Government funding. And what is the *one* thing that airline bigwigs are good at? Getting government funding (in the form of bailouts, etc.). Even Microsoft's budget is dwarfed by the budget of the U.S. Federal Government!

How long has he run Linux at home ? (1)

Builder (103701) | more than 6 years ago | (#21777092)

How long has he run Linux at home? Is this something that has been going on for years, or something that he got someone to install after his second interview? Context means a lot here!

What about at work? How much Linux or other Open Source software has he worked with in his corporate life? That makes a big impact on seeing things from the customer's point of view.

The one thing I'm really hoping is that he will bring fresh eyes to Red Hat and more focus on their core products instead of implementing $BUZZWORDOFTHEWEEK in each new release.

As a company, they've become very bad at accepting criticism and taking feedback on issues. They also need to spend some time working on their installer and their command line tools.

The fact that you can't do an LVM (or was it RAID?) install in text mode in one of the newer RHELs really bugged me. The fact that they told me the command line tools were not a focus and would never be able to do everything the GUI tools did just scared me witless. Apparently their corporate strategy is to sell you Satellite (at GBP8k + per seat licensing) and for you to manage your boxes through that, hence the lack of focus on command line tools.

Contrast this with SLES where everything you can do in the GUI version of YAST2, you can do in the text version as well. Telling Solaris admins that they have to run X on their new Linux boxes to be able to use the config tools is NOT a good way to win them over!

Re:How long has he run Linux at home ? (1)

Dr. Smoove (1099425) | more than 6 years ago | (#21777928)

Good thing you can do everything from YAST via CLI, that god awful piece of shit gave me nightmares for months after using it once.

Ah, great (2, Funny)

HangingChad (677530) | more than 6 years ago | (#21777266)

his replacement will be former Delta Airlines COO James Whitehurst.

Now that means all your cron jobs will run late and RedHat will stop giving out those little packages of peanuts.

Someone who's earned my respect (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21777954)

In retrospect, Redhat has been a well run company and continues to do some impressive work. I think we're all better off because of some of the hard decisions Szulik made during his tenure as CEO. My initial thoughts when I read the headline were "what if we get some idiot who plays into MSFT patent-pact trap". Having RTFA, I'm confident that Whitehurst isn't an idiot.

Whoring oneself out for Linux (2, Funny)

billcopc (196330) | more than 6 years ago | (#21778128)

"runs four versions of Linux at home"

Oh yeah ? Well I run four versions of Windows and two Macs on top of my Linux! :P

Seriously, web development is the worst job evar.
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