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Mystery Company Recruiting Talent With a Puzzle

kdawson posted more than 6 years ago | from the denver-maybe dept.

Programming 354

An anonymous reader writes "Google has previously used coding competitions to locate top talent. In a new twist on the idea, an anonymous tech company is posting a help-wanted ad that challenges developers to find out who the company is. A little digging and text mashing reveals a website containing a Web 2.0 puzzle that makes notpron look like child's play. So, fellow developers, who is this company, and, well, what is the significance of the date '01-18-08?'" Update: 12/12 20:20 GMT by KD : Replaced link to a removed Craigslist ad with a mirror.

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One word... (5, Informative)

DigiWood (311681) | more than 6 years ago | (#21791806)

Cloverfield. 01-18-08 is the release date.

Re:One word... (1)

marqs (774373) | more than 6 years ago | (#21791928)

perhaps the last date to answer to the ad

Maybe... (5, Funny)

msauve (701917) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792048)

but it's also my birthday. Do I get the job?

Re:One word... (2, Insightful)

weicco (645927) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792186)

System.Globalization.CultureInfo.CurrentUICulture.DateTimeFormat.ShortDatePattern returns "M/d/yyyy" No wonder I couldn't figure it out. There's no 18 months in the calendar. ;)

Viral advertising is my guess (2, Insightful)

Scrameustache (459504) | more than 6 years ago | (#21791816)

And a movie with a release date coinciding with those numbers would be the culprit, in my opinion.

Re:Viral advertising is my guess (1)

gambolt (1146363) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792052)

I was thinking about a new segway model.

anniversary of what? (1)

Gary W. Longsine (124661) | more than 6 years ago | (#21791828)

In a little under a month, it will be the 2000th anniversary of whatever it is.

Re:anniversary of what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21792180)

1-18-08
Who says that the year must be 2008?
Here's a famous nerd born 1-18-1908: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Bronowski [wikipedia.org]

Here's a brain teaser... (5, Interesting)

creimer (824291) | more than 6 years ago | (#21791840)

If the mysterious company makes you jump through hoops to get into the door, will they jump through hoops to make you feel like a valued employee or just break out the whips since you're lucky to have the job?

Re:Here's a brain teaser... (1)

lars (72) | more than 6 years ago | (#21791930)

Oh spare me. They aren't going to turn away a qualified candidate that applies in a conventional way. This is a way for them to get some free publicity and maybe even (heaven forbid) have some fun.

Save some time (4, Informative)

madsheep (984404) | more than 6 years ago | (#21791846)

If anyone wants to save some time (like 30-60 seconds) with Base64 to Ascii:

eyAnOicgPT4gJycsICcgJyA9PiAnLScsICdzXG4nID0+ICdzLmNvbVxuJyB9 converts to { ':' => '', ' ' => '-', 's\n' => 's.com\n' }

Base64 (3, Informative)

HateBreeder (656491) | more than 6 years ago | (#21791856)

The clue is base 64 for:
{ ':' => '', ' ' => '-', 's\n' => 's.com\n' }

Now, if you notice [RFC 3548] later changed to 4648:
  "CB-" ":" ":" ":"
              ":"

my 30-seconds attempt is over.

Circumstantial evidence (2, Interesting)

sidles (735901) | more than 6 years ago | (#21791902)

Without even solving the puzzle, but reasoning purely on circumstantial evidence, the answer has to be Mike Hunkapillar's stealth startup Pacific Biosystems. The reasons are simple ... (1) PB's genomic technology is producing a flood of raw data, (2) PB therefore needs programmers to convert that stream into IPO-salable value, and (3) PB is the only one hiring right now!

Re:Base64 (5, Informative)

jcaldwel (935913) | more than 6 years ago | (#21791950)

Its a find-and-replace that turns the title:
Wanted: Master Software Developers

Into:
http://wanted-master-software-developers.com/ [wanted-mas...lopers.com]

... and the test continues...

Re:Base64 (1)

Nazlfrag (1035012) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792092)

sticky falling bricks of truth... huh? Beats the hell outta me, need a programming viewpoint...

Well, the date is obvious (1)

Colin Smith (2679) | more than 6 years ago | (#21791868)

It's the "Tri-Valley Singles Lock & Key and Dance"... Clearly.

 

Anonymous Coward? (5, Insightful)

Crimsane (815761) | more than 6 years ago | (#21791872)

I'll bet you dollars to donuts that that company creating all of this is the same one to submit the story.

Re:Anonymous Coward? (2, Insightful)

Mex (191941) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792122)

Agreed. This is just about that stupid movie.

You're always looking for ways to eliminate waste (4, Funny)

FooAtWFU (699187) | more than 6 years ago | (#21791878)

5. You're always looking for ways to eliminate waste, at all levels of development.
How ironic!

Re:You're always looking for ways to eliminate was (1)

stonecypher (118140) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792032)

Not really [tri-bit.com] . Of course, I don't actually see anything wrong with wanting to eliminate waste in the development cycle...

Re:You're always looking for ways to eliminate was (1)

zippthorne (748122) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792076)

"eliminate waste" is also a medical term...

Here's the contact info (spoiler warning) (4, Informative)

mukund (163654) | more than 6 years ago | (#21791892)

Just base64 decode the string that appears to be made of random chars. You get:

{ ':' => '', ' ' => '-', 's\n' => 's.com\n' }

Apply that to the subject in the contact details. You get:

http://wanted-master-software-developers.com/ [wanted-mas...lopers.com]

That was pretty easy. The test then seems to move to web programming and I'm not interested.

Re:Here's the contact info (spoiler warning) (3, Informative)

taloobie (537189) | more than 6 years ago | (#21791982)

/*
([Dollar,Daily Universal Register] % 100).([Flavian II => Severus] / 2 - 1).([Sherman Anti-Trust,Van Gogh] / 9).([Tycho Brahe,Stellar] / 12)
*/

that's at the top of the main css file. the other js files don't help...

Re:Here's the contact info (spoiler warning) (1)

corychristison (951993) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792034)

It's an IP address of some kind.

You need to find the values of the things in [], then perform the mathematical evaluation on them... it will then create a numerical sequence such as an IP address.

Re:Here's the contact info (spoiler warning) (4, Insightful)

corychristison (951993) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792448)

As I had figured... it indeed is an IP address.

1: dollar and daily universal register had the year 1785 in common. 1785%100 = 85
2: the date of transition (=>) between the two rulers was 512. 512/2-1 = 255
3: Sherman Anti-Trust and Van Gogh have the year 1890 in common. 1890/9 = 210
4: Tycho's supernova was in 1572. 1572/12 = 131

Going here: http://85.255.210.131/ [85.255.210.131]

Only reveals 'yes';

Re:Here's the contact info (spoiler warning) (3, Funny)

multisync (218450) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792006)

That was pretty easy. The test then seems to move to web programming and I'm not interested.


That's okay, someone else will be. Maybe they should hire Slashdot

Re:Here's the contact info (spoiler warning) (1)

c0d3h4x0r (604141) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792234)

It's pretty obvious what you're supposed to do in the first puzzle, especially given the hint in the lower-right corner: write a function that will treat the 2D array "d" like a simple "tetris" grid of falling "true" blocks. (The "false" bits in the grid are empty space, and the "true" bits are the "blocks".

l33t spe4k (4, Funny)

frietbsd (943773) | more than 6 years ago | (#21791896)

eyAnOicgPT4gJycsICcgJyA9PiAnLScsICdzXG4nID0+ICdzLmNvbVxuJyB9 (3548, 4648)

"eye and i......"

my l33tspeak isnt what it used to be.

Re:l33t spe4k (1)

eclectro (227083) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792324)

Thank you! Now I will get they job for sure, proving that 'I' know how to read slashdot!

Significance of the date "01/18/2008" (5, Funny)

Sara Chan (138144) | more than 6 years ago | (#21791900)

The significance of the date "01/18/2008" (the eleventh question) is that the company is American and does not use ISO date formats [wikipedia.org] . The particular date is unambiguous, but in general that is not true with their format, e.g. "02/03/2008" could mean either February 3rd (for American readers) or March 2nd (for European readers). ISO is the global standard, and the format removes ambiguity: 2008-01-18. A small additional benefit is that it makes sorting trivial.

If these people were really as committed to quality as they pretend to be, they would be promoting the ISO format, to facilitate less-ambiguous global communication.

Re:Significance of the date "01/18/2008" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21791954)

Wow... talk about going over the deep end. I feel dumber for having spent the time to read that. Using an American Standard instead of the ZOMG MORE SUPERIOR!!! ISO standard makes them a substandard company?

Just wow...

Re:Significance of the date "01/18/2008" (1)

siride (974284) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792038)

How is it any less ambiguous? It could just as easily be year-day-month. The numbers don't actually tell you.

Re:Significance of the date "01/18/2008" (1)

dltaylor (7510) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792132)

Because the FORMAT of the numbers tells you. If it's in that format, it is year-month-day.

Re:Significance of the date "01/18/2008" (1)

siride (974284) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792166)

Uh....how is that actually different than month/day/year or day/month/year? It's just a different ordering. The only winning point is that year-first is easier for comparison.

Re:Significance of the date "01/18/2008" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21792218)

One is the ISO standard for representing date, the other two are useless in programming.

Re:Significance of the date "01/18/2008" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21792552)

The difference is that both MM/DD/YYYY and DD/MM/YYYY are in common use. However, YYYY-DD-MM is never used anywhere, whereas YYYY-MM-DD is in common use. Because of that, a date like 2008-01-03 is not ambiguous, because you know that nobody ever uses YYYY-DD-MM

Re:Significance of the date "01/18/2008" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21792142)

It's unambiguous because only the country of Nonexistia uses the date format yyyy-dd-mm

it decrypts to... (5, Funny)

2020steve (999594) | more than 6 years ago | (#21791912)

"Drink more Ovaltine"

Re:it decrypts to... (1)

pravuil (975319) | more than 6 years ago | (#21791986)

Mod parent up for the season please.

Re:it decrypts to... (1)

Hawthorne01 (575586) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792168)

No kidding. On-topic and seasonal, too. Well-played, indeed.

The decoded message from the film is actually... (1)

John3 (85454) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792346)

"Be sure to drink your Ovaltine."

So don't expect a job offer as you did not accurately decode the secret message.

dear applicant 63B: (5, Funny)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 6 years ago | (#21791924)

we would like to extend a job offer to you.

by hitting upon the clever solution of submitting the puzzle to slashdot as a story subject and letting random slashdot commentors solve the puzzle for you, you have displayed a high level of ingenuity and cleverness. we therefore would like to hire you as the manager of the 3 other programmer applicants who slogged and plodded it out and solved the puzzle through brute mental force on their own. your salary will be 250% of theirs.

congratulations again,
anonymoustech inc.

Re:dear applicant 63B: (1)

madsenj37 (612413) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792290)

Being smart comes in different forms. Some solve puzzles and code, etc., others have business sense and know how to use what others have already done. Look at Bill Gates; he bought DOS and sold the hell out of it. He never created anything other than a solid business plan.

100% true (2, Funny)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792384)

i phrased what i said as a joke, and yet it is a sterling example of business intelligence

Re:100% true (1)

madsenj37 (612413) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792426)

I thought the way you phrased it was hilarious. I was just commenting on how the seemingly funny can also be true.

Re:dear applicant 63B: (1)

eclectro (227083) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792414)

Stop trying to make me feel guilty! If those other programmers (who are smarter than me) solve the puzzle, that simply means that they already have a job and are looking for a better one. But I, on the other hand, do not have one. Face it, we all believe in commie ideas here, and need to spread the wealth around!

!Mystery (-1, Offtopic)

JamesRose (1062530) | more than 6 years ago | (#21791936)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloverfield [wikipedia.org]

This truly is poor excuse for an article on slashot, and i mean on epic proportions (although that is getting more often now days). It's like "look, this is advertising, lets give them some free publicity"- its a good way of loosing credibility very fast

Re:!Mystery (2, Insightful)

cbart387 (1192883) | more than 6 years ago | (#21791974)

Except when people discuss about not discussing it ... which is actually counter-productive to their argument ;)

Re:!Mystery (1)

stonecypher (118140) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792056)

I love it when someone with a UID in the millions acts like they've been here a long time. Guess what, kid? This is how SlashDot has always been. If you don't like it, learn to spell Digg.

Re:!Mystery (1)

Bloater (12932) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792242)

Nah, it was much better right at the start before we had uids. There were few dupes, articles were really techie, and articles were always here before the mainstream news got them.

It's not like the good old days any more.

Re:!Mystery (1)

Haeleth (414428) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792278)

I love it when someone with a UID in the millions acts like they've been here a long time.
I love it when someone with a UID in the hundreds of thousands erroneously assumes that there is a perfect correlation between UID and level of Slashdot experience.

Hint: we aren't all on our first user account, and we didn't all sign up the day we started reading.

Re:!Mystery (1)

stonecypher (118140) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792310)

I love it when someone with a UID in the hundreds of thousands erroneously assumes that there is a perfect correlation between UID and level of Slashdot experience.
It's not an assumption. It's demonstrated. When you see someone acting like a novice, there's no guesswork involved in saying they're acting like a novice. Settle down.

Hint: we aren't all on our first user account, and we didn't all sign up the day we started reading.
I know. I didn't sign up for almost two years. It doesn't matter if it's his fifth account: he's still bemoaning something that's essentially always been true. What I said stands.

Wasn't the JJ Abrams film called 1-18-08 (1)

ducomputergeek (595742) | more than 6 years ago | (#21791938)

I don't know what the name of the movie is or whatever, but I just remember all the trailer said in the movie was:

1-18-08

So could it be some type of nerdy viral campaign like Ilovebees?

And the answer is... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21791942)

42.

Re:And the answer is... (1)

True Vox (841523) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792144)

Now, to figure out the question...

Re:And the answer is... (2, Funny)

skoaldipper (752281) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792444)

What
is
the
square
footage
of
my
cubicle?

Posting is gone (1)

Asmodai (13932) | more than 6 years ago | (#21791990)

The Craig's list posting is already removed.

a better way (1)

wikinerd (809585) | more than 6 years ago | (#21791992)

A better way:

  • Find out the people who have set up webpages and are public personas on the Net. You can find people from your connections (LinkedIn!), googling, from the free software community, or from professional societies.
  • Watch their blogs and generally their sites for some time, to ensure they are really the right people.
  • At some point introduce yourself and start discussing with them for non-professional topics.
  • If you "talk the same language", start sharing ideas about professional issues.
  • Do some small "virtual" projects with them, some small contracts maybe or in some cases just some open-source development together.
  • When you're sure these are the people to hire, sign contracts with, start a business with, invest in, or whatever, send them your big offer.

Only problem with this method is that it excludes most people who don't publish much about themselves (for this reason, in parallel, you can also utilise common "wanted" ads, to give a chance to invisible talent to contact you). Otherwise, it works great. Why have a pile of CVs laying around when you can fire up google and find up the best people in a field?

craigs list (1)

Turn-X Alphonse (789240) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792002)

The link to Craig's list gives the following page.

"This posting has been flagged for removal
(The title on the listings page will be removed in just a few minutes.)"

This is what I want... (1)

Paeva (1176857) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792030)

+news -slashvertising I might guess that the same person that posted this on craigslist also posted the story on Slashdot. The Slashdot fish gets hooked by the bait yet again...

Re:This is what I want... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21792398)

Difficult test? Hardly. (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21792036)

f = function(d) {
    TDD.assertEquals = function () { return true }
}

...I mean, come on guys, at least design your test to be a little resilient to people who grok JavaScript.

Cheating (1)

Weirdbro (1005245) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792044)

On the programming page linked to us by an above poster, here's a trick: f = function(d) { TDD.assertEquals = function(a,b) { return true; } } Amazingly, it passes every test :D

Re:Cheating (1)

knewter (62953) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792154)

and fwiw the message on completing the tests this way is:
Ford's, success, has, the, country, almost, financially, industrially, mechanically, exhibits, in, higher, than, persons, have, thought, possible, contradictory, requirements, of, efficiency, increase, great, workers, cost, consumer, And, cost, cost, consumer, And, cost, cost, consumer, And, workers, workers, workers, workers, to, repeated, great, increase, quality, increase, great, great, increase, quality, efficiency, efficiency, which, are, of, contradictory, contradictory, requirements, of, possible, have, have, thought, possible, have, have, persons, than, than, most, persons, persons, than, most, exhibits, exhibits, exhibits, exhibits, financially, financially, financially, financially, almost, the, the, country, almost, Ford's, Ford's, success, has

However, the 'execute f' button at the bottom, and its action on the blue boxes, seems to imply that cheating is avoided, because the TDD bit is supposed to lead you to write the correct function, not a cheat :)

DNF Release Date (1)

Lexor (724874) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792070)

"what is the significance of the date '1-18-08?'"

It's the release date for Duke Nuke'em Forever.

Oh and 3D Realms is recruiting a team for the development of the next title, Duke Nuke'em Times Infinity.

Re:DNF Release Date (1)

VGPowerlord (621254) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792276)

So... 18 is the year? That's one messed up date format.

Re:DNF Release Date (1)

kd5ujz (640580) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792560)

Not 18A.D, its 18 ATRC (after the return of christ), which should be a few months after Duke Nukem forever comes out, and windows vista runs it properly.

"We don't know what it does, either" (1)

IL-CSIXTY4 (801087) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792078)

I stopped by http://wanted-master-software-developers.com/ [wanted-mas...lopers.com] for a look-see.

If the talent they're looking for involves figuring out undocumented code with function names like "f" and variable names like "d", I think I'll pass.

Kudos for having testable code, though.

Nice job guys! (1)

CPNABEND (742114) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792090)

Only 37 comments, and the site has already been slashdotted! :)

To even a non-coder, the answer... (1)

Tastecicles (1153671) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792100)

is blindingly obvious. Ergo;

1-18-08

BT's Directory Enquiries service number is 118-118. This is a competition to find a web developer for 2008 for BT's planned upgrade to Yell.com.

Thank you. My salary requirements follow:

Flexi-40, £90k after tax. Willing to relocate for permanent accomodation in a detached 5-bedroom house with twin garages only. Company RV and access to local hunting grounds essential.

Fordware, (1)

jr599z (675276) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792136)

1-18-2008 is the release date for Bad Robot.

Fordware 3801 Market St Bsmt Philadelphia, PA 19104 (215) 387-2399

Just Googled "eyAnOicgPT4gJycsICcgJyA9PiAnLScsICdzXG4nID0+ICdzLmNvbVxuJyB9"

Took all of 3 minutes to find this info.

M$ trying to be cool (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21792148)

It's Microsoft, trying to be cool in their usual silly copycat way...

Next clue? (2, Interesting)

Stochastism (1040102) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792172)

So passing through all the tests on http://wanted-master-software-developers.com/ [wanted-mas...lopers.com] brings you to:

Ford's, success, has, the, country, almost, financially, industrially, mechanically, exhibits, in, higher, than, persons, have, thought, possible, contradictory, requirements, of, efficiency, increase, great, workers, cost, consumer, And, cost, cost, consumer, And, cost, cost, consumer, And, workers, workers, workers, workers, to, repeated, great, increase, quality, increase, great, great, increase, quality, efficiency, efficiency, which, are, of, contradictory, contradictory, requirements, of, possible, have, have, thought, possible, have, have, persons, than, than, most, persons, persons, than, most, exhibits, exhibits, exhibits, exhibits, financially, financially, financially, financially, almost, the, the, country, almost, Ford's, Ford's, success, has
With alt text "list, uniquify, relativity". So the above has the be transformed again into a new url. Some kind of word frequency trick?

Re:Next clue? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21792236)

Seems to be from this
However, it was in Henry Ford's revolutionary mass-production assembly
plants where many practices first emerged. In 1915, Charles Buxton Going, in
the preface to Arnold and Faurote's Ford Methods and the Ford Shops, observed:

Ford's success has startled the country, almost the world, financially,
industrially, mechanically. It exhibits in higher degree than most persons
would have thought possible the seemingly contradictory requirements
of true efficiency, which are: constant increase of quality, great increase
of pay to the workers, repeated reduction in cost to the consumer. And
with these appears, as at once cause and effect, an absolutely incredible
enlargement of output reaching something like one hundred fold in less
than ten years, and an enormous profit to the manufacturer.

oblig xcdk comic. (2, Funny)

bagofcrap (260283) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792178)

Re:oblig xcdk comic. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21792268)

That comic was all I could think about while doing the tests.

I don't have time for this... (1)

Landshark17 (807664) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792246)

I'm still busy trying to figure out how to build this damned Interocitor.

Source code (5, Informative)

Raynor (925006) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792288)

Am I the only one who grabbed their /js/ and peeked at the code...

"// Note: It is not necessary to reverse-engineer this file in order to complete the contest"

I did no testing of any sort... inside framework.pack.js it says

p.setAttribute("title","list, uniquify, relativity");
p.appendChild(document.createTextNode("Ford's, success, has, the, country, almost, financially, industrially, mechanically, exhibits, in, higher, than, persons, have, thought, possible, contradictory, requirements, of, efficiency, increase, great, workers, cost, consumer, And, cost, cost, consumer, And, cost, cost, consumer, And, workers, workers, workers, workers, to, repeated, great, increase, quality, increase, great, great, increase, quality, efficiency, efficiency, which, are, of, contradictory, contradictory, requirements, of, possible, have, have, thought, possible, have, have, persons, than, than, most, persons, persons, than, most, exhibits, exhibits, exhibits, exhibits, financially, financially, financially, financially, almost, the, the, country, almost, Ford's, Ford's, success, has")); ... That was easy.

Clues so far... (3, Interesting)

knewter (62953) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792316)

I don't have the function that passes the tests that they wanted yet, but here's a collection of everything so far:

First off, the craigslist posting leads to:
http://wanted-master-software-developers.com/?key= [wanted-mas...lopers.com]
Then, the main.css file has two bits of non-css info in it. At the very bottom, there's: /*
34w4wa
*/
Then at the top, we have: /*
([Dollar,Daily Universal Register] % 100).([Flavian II => Severus] / 2 - 1).([Sherman Anti-Trust,Van Gogh] / 9).([Tycho Brahe,Stellar] / 12)
*/
There's a hint at the bottom of the page, as well:
sticky falling bricks of truth

I have nothing on 34w4wa. Daily Universal Register, as was noted elsewhere, used to be the name of the Times of London. Dollar, who knows? Flavian II was the Patriarch of Antioch. Setpimius Severus was a Roman general, and Roman emperor. Sherman Antitrust Act was the first US Government action to limit cartels and monopolies. Van Gogh was of course a painter. Tycho Brahe was an awesome astronomer, and stellar, again, I don't know.

It's an array of four things, with dots between them - an IP address. Perhaps something with dates?

The date format tells us it's an American-related quiz. The US dollar was adopted in 1785, while the Daily Universal Register was also begun in 1785. 1785 mod 100 = 85.

Flavian II died in 518. Severus reigned from 193-211, when HE died. 518-211 = -307, /2 ~=-154 - 1 = -155.

So far, 85.155...

Sherman Antitrust and Van-Gogh's death were both in 1890. 1890/9 = 210

So 85.155.210...

Tycho Brahe died 1601...I don't know about stellar, but other dates have coincided so 1601/12.to_i = 133

85.155.210.133 doesn't appear to have a web server on it, but that 155 is really suspect, as is the 133 (not an integer). Brahe was BORN in 1546, and 1546/12 = 129.

85.155.210.129 isn't answering either. Again, the 155 bothers me.

Flavian II died 518, but 518/2 -1 = 258, which isn't exactly a meaningful number for an IP address, eh?

I got my Severus wrong, as there was a Severus that succeeded Flavian II in 512, 14 years after Flavian II became patriarch. 14/2 - 1 = 6.

85.6.210.129 has no website on it either, but it's feeling better. Maybe that 129's a red herring...I feel like the 85 and 210 are right as rain though.

A google search for 'tycho brahe stellar' returns a couple of hits for an article listing 1572 as a date, and 1572/12=131. Turns out SN1572 was known as Tycho's Nova.

85.6.210.131 still gives me nothing though.

Re:Clues so far... (1)

knewter (62953) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792350)

Also, googling the resulting message from the test page yields an obvious match with some text from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lean_manufacturing [wikipedia.org]

Re:Clues so far... (1)

knewter (62953) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792390)

The quote I'm referring to:

"Ford's success has startled the country, almost the world, financially, industrially, mechanically. It exhibits in higher degree than most persons would have thought possible the seemingly contradictory requirements of true efficiency, which are: constant increase of quality, great increase of pay to the workers, repeated reduction in cost to the consumer. And with these appears, as at once cause and effect, an absolutely incredible enlargement of output reaching something like one hundredfold in less than ten years, and an enormous profit to the manufacturer".[5]

Re:Clues so far... (1)

knewter (62953) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792506)

Didn't see the alt text...that quote's a red herring. However, I've got a list of the words, with frequency, right here:

irb(main):005:0> q.words.to_a
=> [["which", 1], ["consumer", 3], ["financially", 5], ["And", 3], ["of", 3], ["persons", 4], ["than", 4], ["cost", 5], ["great", 4], ["increase", 4], ["efficiency", 3], ["most", 2], ["almost", 3], ["repeated", 1], ["country", 2], ["has", 2], ["to", 1], ["in", 1], ["mechanically", 1], ["industrially", 1], ["the", 3], ["thought", 2], ["success", 2], ["Ford's", 3], ["have", 5], ["higher", 1], ["exhibits", 5], ["are", 1], ["quality", 2], ["requirements", 2], ["contradictory", 3], ["workers", 5], ["possible", 3]]

FWIW, my ruby script to do this, to check my work, is here:
class QuizSolver
    attr_accessor :text, :word_list, :words

    def initialize
        @text = "Ford's, success, has, the, country, almost, financially, industrially, mechanically, exhibits, in, higher, than, persons, have, thought, possible, contradictory, requirements, of, efficiency, increase, great, workers, cost, consumer, And, cost, cost, consumer, And, cost, cost, consumer, And, workers, workers, workers, workers, to, repeated, great, increase, quality, increase, great, great, increase, quality, efficiency, efficiency, which, are, of, contradictory, contradictory, requirements, of, possible, have, have, thought, possible, have, have, persons, than, than, most, persons, persons, than, most, exhibits, exhibits, exhibits, exhibits, financially, financially, financially, financially, almost, the, the, country, almost, Ford's, Ford's, success, has"
        @word_list = text.split(', ')
        @words = {}
        @word_list.each do |word|
            handle_word word
        end
        puts @words.inspect
    end

    def handle_word word
        @words[word] = @words[word].to_i + 1
    end
end

Then just require it, and q=QuizSolver.new

Re:Clues so far... (1)

knewter (62953) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792526)

Aaaand, sorted:

irb(main):010:0> q.words.to_a.sort{|a, b| a[1] b[1]}.reverse
=> [["have", 5], ["workers", 5], ["financially", 5], ["cost", 5], ["exhibits", 5], ["than", 4], ["persons", 4], ["increase", 4], ["great", 4], ["the", 3], ["possible", 3], ["contradictory", 3], ["Ford's", 3], ["And", 3], ["of", 3], ["consumer", 3], ["efficiency", 3], ["almost", 3], ["has", 2], ["requirements", 2], ["country", 2], ["most", 2], ["quality", 2], ["thought", 2], ["success", 2], ["to", 1], ["repeated", 1], ["in", 1], ["mechanically", 1], ["industrially", 1], ["higher", 1], ["are", 1], ["which", 1]]

Re:Clues so far... (1)

necrominx (1206420) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792538)

This quote must somehow be useful, but I can't enter it into the text field. The field accepts only numbers (positive and negative) and commas.

Re:Clues so far... (1)

necrominx (1206420) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792480)

For the 85, I'm right with you. For 'Flavian II => Severus', this may be the year that Severus succeeded Flavian II, which is 512.

512 / 2 - 1 = 255

So far we have, "85.255", which does look like the start of an IP address.

Now according to Wikipedia, 1890 is the year that both Van Gogh died and the Anti-Trust act were created. 1890 / 8 = 210.

So we have, "85.255.210".

Googling for "Tycho Brahe, Stellar" gives the date of 1572.

1572 / 12 = 131

So we have, 85.255.210.131. Unfortunately, going to this IP address shows an empty page with the word 'yes' on it. Hmmm.

Re:Clues so far... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21792486)

The address is:

85.255.210.131

Times and dollar initiated in 1785
Severus replaced Flavian in 512
Sherman Anti-Trust Act was enacted when Van Gogh died in 1890
Brahe saw a supernova in 1572

Re:Clues so far... (1)

snower1313 (801399) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792522)

Tracerout directs to tinyurl http://tinyurl.com/34w4wa [tinyurl.com] redirects to: http://groups.google.com/group/wanted-master-software-engineers [google.com]

Re:Clues so far... (1)

IL-CSIXTY4 (801087) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792558)

Run by "Samuel Smiles", who was a biographer that wrote about "heroic" engineers in the 1800s.

Why do I feel like I stepped into the middle of someone's Atlas Shrugged fantasy?

Re:Clues so far... (1)

IL-CSIXTY4 (801087) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792514)

I got my Severus wrong, as there was a Severus that succeeded Flavian II in 512, 14 years after Flavian II became patriarch. 14/2 - 1 = 6.


I think you're overthinking that part there. The succession took place in *512*. (512/2)-1 = 255.

http://85.255.210.131/ [85.255.210.131] comes back with a page that says "yes".

Re:Clues so far... (1)

taloobie (537189) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792534)

This is the IP we are looking for 85.255.210.131 255 comes from 512 being the year Flavian II was replaced (=>) by Servius

I know! (1)

dr_dank (472072) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792322)

and, well, what is the significance of the date '1-18-08?

Kevin Costner turns 53 years old.

When do I start?

1-18? (1)

segedunum (883035) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792368)

I didn't know there were more than 12 months in a year.

This posting has been flagged for removal (1)

twomi (986768) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792410)

"(The title on the listings page will be removed in just a few minutes.)" They got ./'ed.

10 Reasons to never see this movie... (0, Offtopic)

owlnation (858981) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792474)

Reasons to never to pay to see this movie are as follows:
  1. JJ Abrams
  2. The name "Cloverfield". Sounds like a TV movie-of-the-week about a woman dying from a terminal illness.
  3. The Inverse Hype Law: a movie's quality is always inversely proportional to the amount of hype generated pre-release.
  4. William Shatner is not in this movie.
  5. They hired smart-ass marketing droids to hype a mystery trailer.
  6. JJ Abrams.
  7. Their smart-ass trash marketing droids pull lame stunts like this to get free viral ads.
  8. Like "Lost", it promises but likely will never deliver.
  9. 95% of the planet uses a different date format.
  10. Like "Lost" and this stunt here, they make those of average intelligence feel like they're real smart while watching the low-brow TV show / movie.

In case I forgot to mention also... JJ Abrams.

Significance of 2008-01-18 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21792504)

Actually the significance of 2008-01-18 is that it is my next birthday. Were can I collect my copy of the software promised?

that was easy (1)

sykodrama (1206818) | more than 6 years ago | (#21792524)

http://www.1-18-08.com/ [1-18-08.com] Pretty sure it's movie related have a great day Usually friday or on the rare occassion to have bigger opening weekend they'll go on wed. Music, games, dvd come on tuesday. Jan 18 2008 is a friday.
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