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125 comments

Oh god (1, Funny)

i_liek_turtles (1110703) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943082)

In Soviet Russia, simple life forms look for YOU! Wait a minute...

Re:Oh god (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21943138)

In Soviet Russia, Europeans explore URANUS!

Re:Oh god (1)

Movi (1005625) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947206)

You're late. They changed the name to URECTUM

obligatory (1)

Neotrantor (597070) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943084)

monoliths, plants etc etc

A colossal waste of money (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21943140)

Why are they expending so much money on searching for life on Europa?

It's Soviet Russia, dammit! Have Europan life search for you!

On Europa ... (1, Funny)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943100)

On Europa, Soviet Russians look for YOU!

Life Safety. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21943102)

Due to the gentle noble-savagery of the Russians, there will be little to no danger of contaminating or harming any possible life Europa may have.

Watch out for monoliths (5, Funny)

CambodiaSam (1153015) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943128)

Aren't they a bit behind schedule? I thought this was going to happen in a couple years.

Oh wait, that wasn't a documentary was it...

Re:Watch out for monoliths (4, Funny)

plover (150551) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943258)

Sure, the aliens tell us "ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS, EXCEPT EUROPA. ATTEMPT NO LANDINGS THERE", and which moon is the first one the Russians are heading for? Exactly.

At least they can't say they weren't warned.

Re:Watch out for monoliths (1)

infonography (566403) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943642)

Like we should worry?, that second sun of theirs didn't seem to last so long now did it?

We should insist they take Roy Scheider [imdb.com] just because he's earned it.

Re:Watch out for monoliths (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21943658)

Sure, the aliens tell us "ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS, EXCEPT EUROPA. ATTEMPT NO LANDINGS THERE",
Apparently in Soviet Russia, All These World are belong to YOU!

Re:Watch out for monoliths (0, Flamebait)

davidsyes (765062) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943974)

Wouldn't it be easier to search Uranus? There's a whole flora and fauna in that hot, dark world...

Re:Watch out for monoliths (1)

mweather (1089505) | more than 6 years ago | (#21944296)

They tried. They couldn't find it with both hands.

Re:Watch out for monoliths (1)

davidsyes (765062) | more than 6 years ago | (#21946164)

My my, we've got some humorless wretches here. It's not as if I initially said they could do the Trotsky or something to that effect (or, even affect...).

But, if they (or whomever) can find life, they'd better hope it's not superior to us. Or, shit WILL really hit the fan.

Re:Watch out for monoliths (1)

Monkey (16966) | more than 6 years ago | (#21945610)

It's a well documented fact that Soviet Russians do the reverse of any stated action.

Re:Watch out for monoliths (1)

LrdDimwit (1133419) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947644)

So the moral of the story is ... keep mail order Russian brides away from talking snakes?

I'm european and (2, Funny)

sveard (1076275) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943136)

With a population of over 710 million, life is abundant in europe. There is however no strong evidence for intelligent life. I kid. ;)

Re:I'm european and (-1, Flamebait)

peragrin (659227) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943806)

there may not be strong evidence for intelligent life in europe, but at least there is evidence. the USA has a long way to go to catch up to that part.

For every dupe on slashdot drop the collective IQ by one point.

Re:I'm european and (1)

BrentH (1154987) | more than 6 years ago | (#21944650)

Searching around that basement for intelligent life does not count.

Not sure how this fits... (4, Funny)

explosivejared (1186049) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943156)

Hey go for it, we should all support going into space as this planet is screwed.

Everyone knows that in Soviet Russia, mother nature screws you... so that sort of environmentalist talk is uncalled for.

Re:Not sure how this fits... (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 6 years ago | (#21945288)

Everyone knows that in Soviet Russia, mother nature screws you

Hmmm... didn't know Soviet Russians are that kinky.

Seems like we just assumed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21943160)

that because the moon never had life that no where else did?

Seriously, mars and now this...

NIH (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21943168)

If they some day find life, how do they know they haven't brought it from here on their missions?

Re:NIH (1)

sveard (1076275) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943232)

This would only strengthen the arguments for panspermia.

Re:NIH (1)

dintech (998802) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943298)

Teehee, he said sperm. :P

Re:NIH (2, Insightful)

Pr0xY (526811) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943426)

I've wondered this before. But then I read about the precautions they put in place to make sure this very thing doesn't happen. NASA actually does a very good job making sure to the best of there ability that we wouldn't bring anything with us (unintentionally) and more importantly, it puts even more effort into making sure nothing comes back ;).

After the moon landing, the astronauts were in quarantine for several days just to make sure they didn't accidentally bring back some crazy microbe from the moon :-P.

All in all, I think that if something is found, it'll be pretty clear cut that it isn't from earth for several reasons.

Re:NIH (3, Insightful)

Kozar_The_Malignant (738483) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943674)

If they some day find life, how do they know they haven't brought it from here on their missions?

If the life is based on DNA/RNA replication using L-amino acids you might think of contamination or panspermia. On the other hand, if it is based on a completely different chemistry from anything on Earth, you can be pretty sure it's alien. On the gripping hand, if it's somewhere in between, you have to consider all the possibilities including convergent evolution.

Please think of the children (2, Funny)

Dutchmaan (442553) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943194)

Someone needs to tell them that their new 2010 DVD is just a movie.

All these worlds are yours... (1, Insightful)

Lucas123 (935744) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943210)

except Europa. Attempt no landing there.

Re:All these worlds are yours... (1)

ajs318 (655362) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943260)

How come it took *11* posts before someone mentioned this?

Re:All these worlds are yours... (1)

Tony Hoyle (11698) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943346)

I counted 3 before someone mentioned it, and every second or third post thereafter.

The first few probably got modded offtopic by mods on a particular strong brand of crack.

How are you gentlemen !! (1)

BitwizeGHC (145393) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943394)

All these world are belong to you, except Europa. You have no chance to land there make your time.

Re:How are you gentlemen !! (1)

starakurva (453545) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943560)

Just as I was thinking about how that quote needed a Gundam twist, scrollity-scroll, and.... :)

Well done, man!

Re:All these worlds are yours... (1)

ettlz (639203) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943794)

Use them together.
Use them in peace.

Re:All these worlds are yours... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21943838)

And it's a work of fiction. Strip mine the fucking place.

Russia (1)

moogied (1175879) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943222)

Always trying to sneak a peek in my Europa...

Re:Russia (1)

Tesen (858022) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943308)

Cause Uranus is so big...

predicting the end game outcome (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21943228)

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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/31/opinion/31mon1.html?em&ex=1199336400&en=c4b5414371631707&ei=5087%0A [nytimes.com]

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meanwhile, the life0cidal philistines continue on their path of death, debt, & disruption for most of US. gov. bush denies health care for the little ones;

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whilst demanding/extorting billions to paint more targets on the bigger kids;

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& pretending that it isn't happening here;

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What is unclear about "Attempt NO landings there" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21943248)

can't these big governments just listen for once? Cue Ron Paul fundraiser.

my god (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21943268)

In Soviet Russia, stars are full of it?

HAL Says... (-1, Redundant)

smitty97 (995791) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943290)

All these worlds are yours except Europa. Attempt no landings there.

Life on Europe? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21943306)

For some reason, I read the headline as "Russia to Search For Life on Europe." And giggled.

Could the Russians Send this Message? (1)

LifesABeach (234436) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943364)

.


Kurt Vonnegut (1922-2007)

Re:Could the Russians Send this Message? (0, Offtopic)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943400)

* (ewwwww)

All these worlds are yours... (0, Redundant)

Lucas123 (935744) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943410)

except Europa. Attempt no ... Oh, forget it. Our immigration policy useless -- no border fences, free medical care and education for illegal aliens and now our politicians are talking about amnesty. Go ahead an land.

Re:All these worlds are yours... (1)

Shteven (1137821) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943936)

Well, I'd say our immigration policy is downright fascist compared to the Native American's. Not only did they let us all in, but they even sold us this spiffy little island for 24 dollars...

Nasa Needs Outside Competition (4, Interesting)

StCredZero (169093) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943446)

NASA needs outside competition. Otherwise, they just devolve to being a big pork-barrel project for Houston Texas and defense contractors. Outside competition got us to the moon. Maybe it will get us to Mars and Jupiter?

Re:Nasa Needs Outside Competition (5, Insightful)

mathfeel (937008) | more than 6 years ago | (#21944716)

I say, let them land. This country needs another Sputnik to remind us that the rest of the world's S&T will still go forward while we "debate" such items as ID v.s. evolution.

Well Said (1)

turgid (580780) | more than 6 years ago | (#21945578)

No mod points today.

Re:Nasa Needs Outside Competition (4, Funny)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 6 years ago | (#21945322)

Just claim you found life there, the males looking like tentacle monsters and the females like schoolgirls, and the Japanese will be ready to launch in less than 2 years. :)

Re:Nasa Needs Outside Competition (2, Interesting)

Nyeerrmm (940927) | more than 6 years ago | (#21946766)

I'd actually argue that the high profile competition with the Soviets caused the current state of the US space program. We rushed to the moon in a completely unsustainable way, and needed something to do afterwards that would be high profile but much cheaper, and most importantly involve men (eliminating the possibility of probes counting as high profile). This led to the technological budget monster that is the STS, which is fundamentally flawed (combining heavy lifter with person carrier), and is overly complex for what little it really does. That said I have a little hope for the new architecture (Orion+Ares) because it fixes the architectural flaws, leaving only the managerial ones.... but I digress.

If there had been no Soviet competition it may have taken us 10 or 20 years longer to get to the moon, or we may have decided to skip it all together, and gone to Mars or asteroids instead. However, whatever we did, it seems likely that it wouldn't have been simple flags and footprints, but instead would have been more along the lines of what Von Braun and the others had really been going for, with longer stays eventually leading to permanent habitation. Because there would never have been as large of an investment, there would never have been the budget fatigue, and the space program, whatever form it took, would have been better at using limited resources to fulfill its goals.

Of course, predicting what might have happened is hard, but I still think that that very strong competition was ultimately harmful. Of course, this kind of lower-key competition doesn't carry the same dangers.

Err, waitaminute... (4, Interesting)

Penguinisto (415985) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943460)

Wasn't there some sort of Internationally-recognized moratorium about landing on Europa, for fear of potential bacteriological contamination?

Forget the Arthur. C. Clarke meme... I'm speaking as in a for-real 'we ain't going there yet' agreement that space-faring nations had agreed to, at least until they can come up with some sort of exploration set-up that can search for life there without risk (or at least an acceptably minimized risk) of contaminating the underlying ocean with Earth-borne bacteria.

I could've sworn that there was something in place to that effect... sort of the same reason why the Russians held off from their efforts to drill all the way down to Lake Vostok [wikipedia.org] in Antarctica.

/P

Re:Err, waitaminute... (1)

solarlux (610904) | more than 6 years ago | (#21944136)

"Chuck Norris understands the ending to 2001: A Space Odyssey" (I couldn't resist when I saw Clarke's name mentioned)

Re:Err, waitaminute... (1)

BornAgainSlakr (1007419) | more than 6 years ago | (#21944292)

Nothing in Wikipedia [wikipedia.org] about it, so you must be wrong. ;)

Seriously, though, it says that there have been many false starts. Plus, there are some pretty serious technical hurdles to overcome.

Re:Err, waitaminute... (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21944422)

There have been a lot of concerns raised, but no exclusions. The spacecraft that discovered the oceans, Galileo, was burnt up in Jupiter's atmosphere to eliminate the small possibility that it crash into Europa and spread bacteria that it likely carried from earth, since it wasn't sterilized. You can bet that there will be ample pressure from inside the science community to clean any probe sent to a degree beyond even what the Mars landers are cleansed.

The concern is that biological contamination could taint any scientific observations (was that bacteria native and therefore life did develop independently on another planet or did we screw up and bring it from earth? Is this compound naturally occuring or a metabolic product of this stupid bacteria we brought from earth? etc.).

If you never observe the planet at that level, the concern is a moot point, so it's nonsense to flat-out ban sending a lander. We do want to be darn sure, however, that we don't screw up future studies.

In Soviet Russia (-1)

192939495969798999 (58312) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943480)

In Soviet Russia, Europa searches for life on you!

wait, that's not funny... that's not funny at all. /rethinks ISR joke formula

Re:In Soviet Russia (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21943496)

In soviet russia, Euoropa probes you.

Obligatory (0)

StarfishOne (756076) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943690)

You can be sure that they will welcome their Russian overlords. :)

Europeans also love Vodka and play chess to keep warm! :p

Europa being says ... (0)

PPH (736903) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943712)

Personally, I welcome our Soviet Russian overlords.

Re:Europa being says ... (1)

syrinx (106469) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943828)

Personally, I welcome our Soviet Russian overlords.

Shouldn't your Soviet Russian overlords welcome you?

Re:Europa being says ... (1)

32771 (906153) | more than 6 years ago | (#21944666)

Well I'm glad to have gotten rid of them.

HEADLINE: RUSSIA FINDS LIFE OUTSIDE EARTH (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21943736)

If it wasn't for Bush's NASA cuts to divert more funding into the Moon, we would've been developing this for YEARS already.

Contamination (5, Interesting)

hyades1 (1149581) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943750)

Everything I've seen so far indicates it will be incredibly difficult and expensive to thoroughly decontaminate a spacecraft in order to ensure that Earth-based organisms don't "piss on the Petri Dish". The Russians are notorious for cutting corners, and their prime motivation for this exercise is political. The chance that they'll spend the extra millions of dollars to ensure the sterility of a Europa lander is non-existent.

I see a serious potential for compromising what appears to be one of the better spots in the solar system to look for extraterrestrial life.

Re:Contamination (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21943824)

... The Russians are notorious for cutting corners ...
Stuff like that's just unecessary.
They're ALL notorious for cutting corners, not just russians.

Re:Contamination (2, Insightful)

RenderSeven (938535) | more than 6 years ago | (#21944088)

They're ALL notorious for cutting corners, not just russians.
Thats not fair either... the Russians are famous for cutting costs even when they shouldnt. NASA is famous for not cutting costs even when they should. Both approaches have their benefits and their downfalls. But when it comes to decontaminating a interplanetary probe I'd have to trust NASA more on this one. Hey, if for no other reason than it *is* a pork barrel project.

Re:Contamination (3, Insightful)

HappyHead (11389) | more than 6 years ago | (#21944202)

Yes, but you realize that this means one important thing:
Even if there wasn't life on Europa before they look for it, there will be once they've found it.
And 10 million years from now, the Europan flibbity-wumpus people will argue with eachother over whether life arose there spontaneously, or was "seeded" from space.

Re:Contamination (2, Funny)

ArcherB (796902) | more than 6 years ago | (#21944746)

And 10 million years from now, the Europan flibbity-wumpus people will argue with eachother over whether life arose there spontaneously, or was "seeded" from space.

Never thought we'd be the I in ID.

Re:Contamination (1)

idontgno (624372) | more than 6 years ago | (#21944878)

We won't be. We don't qualify.

Now, if you want "Borderline-moronic design", humanity fits the bill just fine.

Re:Contamination (2, Interesting)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 6 years ago | (#21945360)

Wouldn't it be kind of funny if "God" was just some alien space probe engineer who sneezed on the probe before launch?

Re:Contamination (1)

ricree (969643) | more than 6 years ago | (#21945146)

With the D standing for distributor?

Re:Contamination (1)

exp(pi*sqrt(163)) (613870) | more than 6 years ago | (#21944354)

> The Russians are notorious for cutting corners

Yeah, Challenger and Columbia exploded because they used Russian parts, right?

Re:Contamination (2, Informative)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 6 years ago | (#21945428)

No, they exploded because there was no Russian to compete with. Or, rather, because NASA turned to Russian practices.

Challenger blew up because the launch was decided despite really, really bad conditions for a launch (to cold, too wet weather), because Reagan was about to hold a speech that night, and they wanted to be in it. This is about as Soviet Russian as can be.

Columbia was a matter of time and money. NASA engineers will tell you (of course not officially) that it was bound to happen sooner or later, and that for about 10 years they were incredibly lucky. But sooner or later your luck is all spent. The crates are OLD, for crying out loud. They need a complete overhaul or, better, replacement. But there's neither time nor money available for either.

Re:Contamination (3, Interesting)

bitrex (859228) | more than 6 years ago | (#21945826)

You should really read physicist Richard Feynman's report on the Challenger disaster for an honest analysis of what lead to that orbiter's destruction. There's also a good list of myths about the disaster that's worth reading - for example the belief that Reagan's state of the union had anything to do with the disaster.

Launch officials clearly felt pressure to get the mission off after repeated delays, and they were embarrassed by repeated mockery on the television news of previous scrubs, but the driving factor in their minds seems to have been two shuttle-launched planetary probes. The first ever probes of this kind, they had an unmovable launch window just four months in the future. The persistent rumor that the White House had ordered the flight to proceed in order to spice up President Reagan's scheduled State of the Union address seems based on political motivations, not any direct testimony or other first-hand evidence. Feynman personally checked out the rumor and never found any substantiation. If Challenger's flight had gone according to plan, the crew would have been asleep at the time of Reagan's speech, and no communications links had been set up.

Feynman's Appendix to the Rogers Commission Report on the Space Shuttle Challenger Accident [ralentz.com]

7 myths about the Challenger shuttle disaster [msn.com]

Re:Contamination (5, Informative)

rilister (316428) | more than 6 years ago | (#21944724)

whoah there! 'fraid you've been misled by the lousy headline. If you'd got to the story synopsis, you'd see it was a *European* mission, which Russia is contributing to. It's called 'Laplace' (a curiously French name for a 'Russian mission', huh?) and will be launched by the ESA - European Space Agency in 2015ish.

Now how much you trust those dirty Europeans is a different matter...

Re:Contamination (1)

curmudgeon99 (1040054) | more than 6 years ago | (#21945840)

Excuse me, but the Russians have kicked the US's ass with their space program. To think that they don't know what they're doing is assinine. They just need money and then they are good. They sent rovers to Venus and had them survive. If you cut corners, that aint gonna happen. No, it was the US who cut corners.

Re:Contamination (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21946284)

To think that they don't know what they're doing is assinine.
He didn't say that.

They just need money
Exactly.

No, it was the US who cut corners.
In post-Soviet Russia, corners cut YOU!

Finally someone is sane (2, Insightful)

mattr (78516) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943920)

And this is exactly what you get when you actually go out wanting to find life and look in the most obvious place. This is low-hanging fruit and hopefully a race will start to get some smart exploratory packages over there before we're dead.

Re:Finally someone is sane (4, Informative)

CheshireCatCO (185193) | more than 6 years ago | (#21944356)

Actually, it's looking for fruit in a fruit tree where the fruits are *high*. Europa, while the best extra-terrestrial candidate for bearing life at present, requires some serious radiation shielding on any spacecraft going there, a fairly expensive landing, and a *lot* of work to bore through 1-10 km of literally-rock-hard ice. The probability of finding a viable ecosystem is balanced against the great difficulty to get to it.

As I recall, a recent NASA study said that they can't do it for under $1 billion (US); actually, I think that they found that they couldn't even do a decent orbiter for under $1.5 billion, let alone a lander or a submarine probe. (Warning! This is only my recollection from presentations 6 months ago.)

Re:Finally someone is sane (1)

Mr2cents (323101) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947026)

The article said they would melt a bit of ice, there was no mention of drilling through 10km of ice. I guess they just want to examine surface ice for fossils.

Still, it's an ambitious plan. But am I the only one who's beginning to get sceptical about Russian announcements? Weren't they going to do a sample return mission to Mars' moon Phobos? Weren't they going to do moon rovers? Weren't they going to build their own space station in 2015, when the ISS will be deorbited (not that I think it will be deobited so soon)? Talk is cheap, those missions are *not*. They're all impressive plans, but what was the last interplanetary mission of Russia?

Frankly, they are reminding me of the decade following the dead of the Amiga. "It's been sold to another company!". "They're bringing out a new model real soon now!". "It's being sold again!". "Prepare for the rebirth of Amiga!". It all turned out to be a lot of hot air.

success guaranteed (0, Troll)

savuporo (658486) | more than 6 years ago | (#21943996)

they WILL find life of course, because Putin said so.

I do not expect (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21944052)

I do not expet life on that, but it is interesting to conquer new orbits, and it is always force the development and the race for the win...

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missing the point! (0, Troll)

pretygrrl (465212) | more than 6 years ago | (#21944178)

wow you guys are ALL completely missing the point!
w the stupid memes repeated 8 times

did anyone RTFA? did anyone watch the video?

they are sending ROBOTS TO EUROPA! they are going to GET UNDER THE ICE! and find life!!!!!

Re:missing the point! (2, Funny)

kellyb9 (954229) | more than 6 years ago | (#21944580)

did anyone RTFA? did anyone watch the video?

Hi, you must be new here. Welcome to /.

HG2G (1)

jcaldwel (935913) | more than 6 years ago | (#21945670)

If you keep it up, you can eventually get promoted to Senior Shouting Officer, and there are not usually many vacancies for non-Shouting and non-Pushing People About Officers, so I think you ought to stick to what you know.

In soviet russia (1)

32771 (906153) | more than 6 years ago | (#21944588)

people search for even colder place because permafrost is thawing.

http://www.informedresponse.co.uk/environews/?p=39 [informedresponse.co.uk]

One muddy mess. No wonder they want to go somewhere cold.

Re:In soviet russia (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 6 years ago | (#21945628)

Yeah, Sibiria simply ain't what it used to be. Sending people there is soon like sending them to a Club Med, so we need something new.

Re:In soviet russia (1)

tenco (773732) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947132)

In Soviet Russia, the government controls the commerce.

In Western Capitalism, commerce controls you!

Eurasia? (-1, Troll)

drxenos (573895) | more than 6 years ago | (#21944732)

We are at war with Eurasia. We have always been at war with Eurasia. We have never been at war with Eastasia.

Re:Eurasia? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21946524)

Ah, the wrath of the illiterate moderators.

Re:Eurasia? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21946620)

For the idiot moderators who didn't get the joke: Russia is sending a spacecraft to Europa. In Orwell's 1984, Russia was part of Eurasia. Oceanica was alternately at war with Eurasia and Eastasia, and change written history each time to show they've always been at war with the same power.

Am I the only one (1)

Cro Magnon (467622) | more than 6 years ago | (#21944742)

who thought they were looking for life on Europe?

O_o' Headline caused me to do a double take! (1)

bornagainpenguin (1209106) | more than 6 years ago | (#21944784)

I had to re-read the headline a couple of time because the first few times I thought I read "Russia to search for Intelligent Life on *Europe*" LOL..

--bornagainpenguin

Commander Taco should read the summary (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21945214)

First, this is not a Russian mission, but a European one that Russia is saying they will participate in, FROM THE SUMMARY, not even TFA. Second, the "there-sure-are-none-here" would apply to a search for intelligent life. This mission is for finding bacteria or other simple life, and there sure are some here. Is it just Monday, or is this level of laziness (obvious from a cursory glance) typical of Taco?

Re:Commander Taco should read the summary (2, Interesting)

curmudgeon99 (1040054) | more than 6 years ago | (#21945796)

The hell it is European! You going to Europa on an Ariane? Not likely. This will be launched from Baikonaur using the large Energia boosters. This is 95% Russian and the Russkies deserve the credit. Anybody can make a little jacky rover to go look around. GETTING there is the problem.

Overheard from the spacecraft.... (1)

penguin_dance (536599) | more than 6 years ago | (#21945664)

Damn...I thought they were sending us on vacation to Italy.

world largest oil producer hasbucks and smarts (1)

peter303 (12292) | more than 6 years ago | (#21946178)

Russia has been the worlds largest producer for a couple years, producing nearly a billion dollars worth per day. They also have excellent scientists. Sounds like a great combination.

Well... we are alive and well... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21946350)

...and those damn Russians should know, a big part of Russia is on Europa.

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No, I didn't read TFA... am I supposed to do that ?

Easy as cake! (1)

net_oholic (222829) | more than 6 years ago | (#21946692)


Pie. Easy as -pie-.

on slashdot (0)

indy_Muad'Dib (869913) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947484)

Soviet Russia joke screws up YOU!

Boink (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21947578)

If there are any simple life forms on Europa, I hope they don't land on 'em.

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