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Linux-Based PMP Features Head-Up Display

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 6 years ago | from the ripe-for-the-hacking dept.

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nerdyH writes "A new Linux-based portable media player (PMP) features an eyeglass-like head-mounted display with 800 x 600 resolution. Dreamax's Indicube i-800 PMP provides an experience similar to sitting two meters away from a 54-inch screen, the vendor claims. It uses an 0.44-inch eMagin OLED display, claimed to offer the smallest pixel pitch in the industry."

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200 comments

Cool.... (5, Funny)

The_Fire_Horse (552422) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947000)

porn on the train at last (and this time without angry guards and annoyed passengers)

Re:Cool.... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21947048)

I'm pretty sure they'll still notice you jamming your fist into your crotch.

However, Can It (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21947386)


waterboard George W. Bush [whitehouse.org] ?

Thanks for your patriotism.

Just imagine yourself... (2, Funny)

SchizoDuckie (1051438) | more than 6 years ago | (#21948270)

Sitting in the train, minding your own business, with your cool eyeglasses on, and then somebody snitches your bag, coat, shoes and everything else you're not paying attention to :-D

First Video To Watch On It.... (1)

phobos13013 (813040) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947010)

Strange Days!

Re:First Video To Watch On It.... (1)

mr_mischief (456295) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947316)

Let me know when I can get the playback of your experience watching Strange Days on it. ;-) Really, the hardware in the movie wasn't nearly as cool as what it was possible to do with it.

-=##### *very* small possible *partial* spoiler alert #####=-

I only have one complaint about the whole film. They used the Y2K subplot to explain the big crowds they needed for the end of the movie. Considering the characters involved in the film, there's no reason they couldn't have written a large crowd scene without dating the film's setting so readily.

Re:First Video To Watch On It.... (2, Interesting)

SoundGuyNoise (864550) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947442)

Shouldn't it be Brainstorm [imdb.com] instead?

Are they selling these separately? (2, Interesting)

m50d (797211) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947016)

I've wanted something like this to use with my PDA for some time.

Re:Are they selling these separately? (1)

ZeroExistenZ (721849) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947642)

I've wanted something like this to use with my PDA for some time
You can get these things already: PowerColor i-Screen Head Mounted Display PowerColor i-Screen Head Mounted Display [loveno.be] .

There's this picture circulating with a guy sitting in a chair with some joysticks, wearing a dress, two breast-vacuum pumps wearing a Head Mounted display with the appropriate caption. Too bad I can't find it to illustrate the possibilities wish such an device.

Re:Are they selling these separately? (1, Troll)

Miffe (592354) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947964)

I only have the non captioned picture.
Here it is, enjoy! 1199328595027.jpg [miffe.org]

A project manager that runs linux? (-1, Troll)

j-pimp (177072) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947020)

So do they run MS project under wine or what?

My Prediction (5, Funny)

DannyO152 (544940) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947044)

2008 will be the year of the Linux Borg Headgear.

Ah Linux (1)

jessiej (1019654) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947240)

A little off topic, but with how linux friendly slashdot is, I wonder what percentage of users read slashdot on linux machines.

Re:Ah Linux (1)

corychristison (951993) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947534)

Funny you should say that.

Today is my first time not using my own laptop (left it at home in my morning rush).

On my own laptop, I run a tasty install of Gentoo Linux.

Today I am using the work-place provided laptop... Win Vista Home Basic (yuck. Trying to build websites outside of a familiar environment is a pain in the ass.

Re:Ah Linux (1)

Teun (17872) | more than 6 years ago | (#21948110)

Slashdot is not necessarily Linux friendly, it is more like acutely aware of superior technology.
You know, Stuff that Matters ;)

Yes I run Linux (Kubuntu).

Re:My Prediction (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21947276)

I, for one, welcome our new linux using borg overlords.

This is excellent (5, Funny)

Malevolent Tester (1201209) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947060)

Now I can look like a complete tool without using proprietary software.

Re:This is excellent (4, Funny)

msuarezalvarez (667058) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947296)

There a great chances you already do... ;-)

As a fashion accessory... (1)

clem (5683) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947072)

I fear this visor will only look good on hot Asian women.

Re:As a fashion accessory... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21947168)

I guess they can scale back production.

Re:As a fashion accessory... (2, Funny)

NamShubCMX (595740) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947348)

From the article...

CREATE YOUR OWN STYLE
There is one of the biggest characteristic of INDICUBE by prominent design to express strong male beauty. With ergonomic and stylish feature, it must be fit in both orient and western people. Enjoy yourself with great style on a bus, train, airplane, or out of doors. We guarantee that INDICUBE can make you look better and create your own style.


ugh.

Target audience (5, Interesting)

Scutter (18425) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947096)

How come these designers never realize that many of their target audience have poor eyesight? These types of things never fit right over glasses.

Re:Target audience (1)

Mad Bad Rabbit (539142) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947284)

If you can afford toys like this, you can afford laser vision-correction surgery...

Re:Target audience (2, Funny)

Azarael (896715) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947384)

Unless your toy expenditure is the *reason* you can't afford the surgery..

Re:Target audience (2, Insightful)

wattrlz (1162603) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947520)

AFAICT TFA didn't mention a specific price, but... can you afford the new corneas when you're the 1 in 1,000,000 on whom they botch the surgery, though? I'll stick to contacts, thank you!

Re:Target audience (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21947602)

FYI: not everyone is a candidate for laser eye surgery. Anyone with vision that is still changing with time, or with extremely poor vision, is not a candidate for the treatment. (Yes, paradoxically the people who most need corrective surgery are not candidates.) For certain people with very bad eyesight and irritable eyes, neither contacts nor surgery are available (my sister is in this class of unfortunate people).

All of that to say that there is a segment of the population who cannot avoid wearing glasses. There are of course many others who prefer glasses over contacts or corrective surgery for non-monetary reasons.

Re:Target audience (1)

Doctor-Optimal (975263) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947996)

FYI: not everyone is a candidate for laser eye surgery. Anyone with vision that is still changing with time, or with extremely poor vision, is not a candidate for the treatment. (Yes, paradoxically the people who most need corrective surgery are not candidates.) For certain people with very bad eyesight and irritable eyes, neither contacts nor surgery are available (my sister is in this class of unfortunate people).

All of that to say that there is a segment of the population who cannot avoid wearing glasses. There are of course many others who prefer glasses over contacts or corrective surgery for non-monetary reasons.


And clearly not marketing to this segment is a marketing disaster on the level of "New Coke".

Re:Target audience (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Cowpat (788193) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947370)

well, if the screen is wholly over one eye (or could be moved as such) then a relevant lens could be put in position over the other eye. The screen could then be set to black when not in use (forcing you to use the uncovered eye) OR the gizmo could acquire a small camera to provide the relevant image on the screen (of course the camera could be anywhere, such as behind you, or be infrared-sensitive for night-vision, or both) the display could then provide extra information such as the temperature, air pressure, terrorist threat-level, a todo list or, if you happen to be a terminator, a selection of the pictures of the people that you have to kill. If you're short sighted then they'll be close enough to need no correction and if you're long sighted then more fool you (or you could wear a contact lens).
You'd still need to take them off to drive, of course.
Now I think of it, you could just wear contact lenses. Except that you're probably a geek who's too cowardly to try and poke himself in the eye - I certainly am.

Re:Target audience (4, Funny)

russ1337 (938915) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947646)

OR the gizmo could acquire a small camera to provide the relevant image on the screen (of course the camera could be anywhere, such as behind you, ...... ,
Sweet. I've always wanted to walk around in the third person.

Re:Target audience (2, Interesting)

veganboyjosh (896761) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947954)

Sweet. I've always wanted to walk around in the third person.

even better, you could switch between several vantage points, much like just about every car racing video game i've seen in the last 10 years. just choose whether you want bird's eye view, medium view, in the driver's seat, on the hood of the car, etc...

Re:Target audience (1)

Doctor-Optimal (975263) | more than 6 years ago | (#21948016)

even better, you could switch between several vantage points, much like just about every car racing video game i've seen in the last 10 years. just choose whether you want bird's eye view, medium view, in the driver's seat, on the hood of the car,, etc...
Try getting used to these things while walking downtown and that's just where you'll be seeing yourself.

Re:Target audience (1)

mhall119 (1035984) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947380)

Only a problem for far-sighted people, and making room for glasses isn't going to fix that.

The images your eye will be focusing on is only a couple of inches away, even if it "appears" to be 2 meters away. Your stereoscopic vision will be focused 2 meters out, but your lens will be focused only an inch or two out, so near-sighted users would just take off their regular glasses when they use this.

Re:Target audience (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21947476)

I am farsighted, you insensitive clod!

Re:Target audience (1)

hackerjoe (159094) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947682)

I think there are optics in there to change the focal distance, too.

I mean, maybe you're so blind you can actually focus on something an inch and a half away from your eye comfortably, but I'm only a little myopic, and trying to focus closer than about 3" hurts... hmmm... yeah, I'd say that hurts like a bitch.

Thanks a lot, now I have a headache from doing my fact check.

Re:Target audience (3, Informative)

ballpoint (192660) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947832)

No, that's not true. Optics are designed so that you need to focus your lens on a virtual image that appears to be x meters away in exactly the same way as you would need to focus on a real image that actually is x meters away, where x is a design choice.

For each level of near- or farsightedness, a display could be specifically designed so that no additional correction would be necessary. But guess what, manufacturers will be addressing the middle ground only, and won't be catering to special needs, save for a limited range like +/- 2 diopters that can be easily obtained by moving a lens a few mm.

Re:Target audience (1)

MrSteveSD (801820) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947844)

They often set these things up so that you are not straining your eyes to look at something so close. The whole two meters thing is probably a red herring since they often just quote a distance that makes the screen size sound good. It's probably set up for infinite distance, so unless you can adjusts it, it would look blurry for short-sighted people.

Re:Target audience (1)

Simple-Simmian (710342) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947756)

I can't see anything that close, I have artificial lenses in both eyes. These devices would be fantastic but to me they are useless.

Project onto the glass or into the eye? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21948024)

What I hope will be built someday is something which rear-projects the image onto the glasses, though I am not sure if that will ever result in a clear picture on the retina.

Best of course would be a laser projected image (pre-warped to compensate for the spherical geometry of the eye) *directly* onto the retina, well, second best, but I wouldn't bet anything on a direct neural interface (eye-nerve or deeper).

And now, poke holes into my dreams, make my universe collapse, see if i care ;-)

Re:Target audience (1)

nilbog (732352) | more than 6 years ago | (#21948150)

That's what the focus adjustment is for.

Re:Target audience (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21948232)

If the screen is that close to your face, then even with poor eyesight the distance would be small enough that you would still have clear vision of the screen despite being nearsighted. Anyways, you can always use contacts.

54" screen is well and fine (5, Informative)

Zerth (26112) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947118)

But can it give me the equivalent of 17" CRT at arms length?

Whenever I see these, I think "yay, monitor replacement" until I find out that, like most of them, it is just as fuzzy for reading text as a regular TV.

Re:54" screen is well and fine (3, Informative)

MrSteveSD (801820) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947884)

But can it give me the equivalent of 17" CRT at arms length?


No. The apparent size of the screen scales linearly according to distance. So 54 inches at 7 feet is the same as 54/7 at 1 foot. Your monitor is probably about 2 feet in front of you, so that is (54/7)*2 = 15.4 inches. So it's like having a 15 inch monitor.

Exactly (1)

OglinTatas (710589) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947920)

Here's an experiment to demonstrate the problem. Start reading a (physical) page of text. Bring the page in until it touches your nose. Can you still read anything? Unless you are horribly nearsighted you probably began straining around 8-10 inches, and lost focus entirely at 6-8 inches. I am about 20/400 in my good eye, the closest I can read is at 4 inches with my glasses off.

Is there an optometrist in the house who can explain how these displays work, and whether or not they are healthy for your eyes?

Re:Exactly (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21947992)

I hate to reply to my own post but I will anyway:

I guess the 800x600 resolution on a "54 inch" display should be a giveaway. Even on a 15 inch monitor on my desk that resolution would be unacceptable.

Mobile computing? (2, Interesting)

SharpFang (651121) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947122)

One thing I missed on the feature list: bluetooth.

Combine this with one-handed chording keyboard [demon.co.uk] , maybe a camera or just a hole to look through (or allow one-eye option) and some wireless connectivity (say, your mobile phone as GPRS modem), and you have a lightweight wearable computer.

bonus for whoever comes up with a handy wearable cursor control device - kinda trackpoint on the keyboard would do, but they are quite obnoxious.

Re:Mobile computing? (1)

nmos (25822) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947354)

bonus for whoever comes up with a handy wearable cursor control device

I would think some sort of eye tracking would be ideal.

Re:Mobile computing? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21947616)

Combine this with one-handed chording keyboard, maybe a camera or just a hole to look through (or allow one-eye option)
IT'S OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAND!

and some wireless connectivity (say, your mobile phone as GPRS modem), and you have a lightweight wearable computer.
Or make it into a screen for your phone (iphone/Neo 1973 for example)

bonus for whoever comes up with a handy wearable cursor control device - kinda trackpoint on the keyboard would do, but they are quite obnoxious.
Eye-tracking would be the obvious choice. Otherwise either a trackball or clit-mouse on the chording keyboard.

Re:Mobile computing? (2, Interesting)

russ1337 (938915) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947714)

for whoever comes up with a handy wearable cursor control device
You mean some kind of "a free-floating, glowing, shifting polyhedron-shaped, mote of energy which could three-dimensionally "draw" and generate physical objects as they are needed, generally becoming the object in the process." like the one here? [wikipedia.org]

Re:Mobile computing? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21947780)

how about an acceleration tracker like a wiimote(when not in IR mode)
it could be placed into the keyboard (not sure what the keyboard is like as /. killed it, rember kids kill google not individual sites)

Two screens or one? (1)

pwnies (1034518) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947124)

Are there two screens (one per eye) or one for both? If it's two screens then if I'm not mistaken it'd be the first PMP with 3d capabilities, which IMO would be pretty impressive.

Aspect Ratio is 4:3 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21947128)

Why? This sucks.

Re:Aspect Ratio is 4:3 (1)

CommunistHamster (949406) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947482)

Well, the reason widescreen is so nice to look at is because you have two eyes, set horizontally apart from each other. This display only uses one eye, so 4:3 is a better choice.

Random Tim O'Reilly post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21947130)

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Ready, Set, Go!! (1)

Critical Facilities (850111) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947196)

...and cue the Geordi LaForge jokes in 3-2-1

Re:Ready, Set, Go!! (1)

Fantastic Lad (198284) | more than 6 years ago | (#21948014)

I must be in the wrong room. --I was going to make a gag about optical blasts.


-FL

... finest pixel pitch may not be good (5, Informative)

dsojourner (695863) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947226)

I've worked on micro display projects before --- and you don't want the pixel pitch getting too close to the wavelength of light -- which will be around 1/2 micron. Pixels smaller than a micron or so will result in dispersion of the light that is generated, limiting the quality of the image.

Re:... finest pixel pitch may not be good (2, Interesting)

hackerjoe (159094) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947566)

Google calculator says:

(0.44 inches) / 800 = 13.97 microns

Still an order of magnitude or so away, but wow, that's a lot closer than I thought..

Re:... finest pixel pitch may not be good (1)

hackerjoe (159094) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947592)

Uh, whoops, a better assumption would be that 0.44" is the diagonal measurement:

(0.44 inches) / sqrt((800^2) + (600^2)) = 11.17600 microns

Too grainy (1)

ATestR (1060586) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947228)

The technology isn't quite there yet, if 800 x 600 is the best it can do. We generally run 1200 x 1040 as a minimum on our conference room big screens, and the average seat is at least 10 feet away.

Re:Too grainy (1)

mweather (1089505) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947492)

I generally run 720x480 on my plasma screen watching DVDs.It seems to work well enough.

Ow! My shin! (1)

arootbeer (808234) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947232)

I mean, does it offer translucency?

Vapour-wearable (3, Insightful)

Caspian (99221) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947246)

The realm of 'wearable computing' seems particularly prone to vapourware. For example, check out this awesome device [eyetap.org] , which has been babbled about for years, and which you still can't buy in stores. And this PMP thing... well, you can't buy it in stores yet either.

Yawn. Wake me when it's available for immediate shipment, with an actual price tag.

Seriously, I'm sick and tired of Slashdot stories slashvertising gadgets that ARE NOT EVEN AVAILABLE YET and may, in fact, never be. Like this damned thing [moller.com] .

Re:Vapour-wearable (1)

ferat (971) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947350)

The article says the thing is shipping in March, so not all that vapourware.

Re:Vapour-wearable (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21947856)

The article says the thing is shipping in March, so not all that vapourware.

Sadly, all the stores in my area are still in January, so it's not available and may never be.

Re:Vapour-wearable (1)

nmos (25822) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947378)

I'm sick and tired of Slashdot stories slashvertising gadgets that ARE NOT EVEN AVAILABLE YET

So, what you want is "Slashdot, EX-News For Nerds. Stuff That Already Happened."

Vision (1)

corychristison (951993) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947302)

Just curious here... I am (very slightly) far sighted.

It is incredibly difficult and hurts the eyes to try and focus on anything of about 4 inches away... would this still work for someone like me? Or am I out of luck?

Re:Vision (1)

Shados (741919) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947696)

Im not expert, and only go by my own observations... Farsighted or not, focusing on something so close normally is a pain, mainly because your eyes have to shift toward your nose to be able to look in the right direction... But with things like these, the image, I presume (I didn't look into it...I mean, this is Slashdot and all) has the picture adjusted for your eyes focusing the same way as if you were looking at something far, so most of the issue doesn't apply. I can see other problems, but not the focusing one.

A very common product (1)

Aceticon (140883) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947330)

At the moment a lot of Chinese manufacturers are making these PMP with head-mounted display products - these things were already available wholesale at least 2 months ago.

I suspect the fact that one of these things makes you look like a hard-core fan of a certain science fiction TV series imitating a certain weak-sighted character is probably not helping with it's adoption.

If you're really into portable media players you're probably better off with any of the flash memory based 2.4'' MP4 player which supports Divx and Xvid.

Re:A very common product (1)

backwardMechanic (959818) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947788)

I'm thinking in the opposite direction. Replace my laptop with a little box (think ipod sized) and use these for the display. The backlight is smaller, so hopefully the power consumption is low. Now all I need is an alternative to my keyboard...

This opens up whole new possibilities (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21947366)

... as a guy who has a fair bit of difficulty scoring with attractive women, I am really looking forward to the possibility of banging ugly chicks while watching hot porn.

Finally, technology that helps me in important ways.

Re:This opens up whole new possibilities (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21947736)

I find it more than a little disturbing that parent has been modded insightful

Re:This opens up whole new possibilities (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21947786)

Your problem being that the only chicks dumb enough to want to screw an asshole like you are also ugly enough to be desperate enough to take any action. Maybe treat 'em with a little respect and you might get yourself a hot chick who actually, get this, likes you.

Re:This opens up whole new possibilities (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21947908)

Not a chance. the only way he'll get a hot chick is to pay her to be with him.

Re:This opens up whole new possibilities (2, Funny)

RealGrouchy (943109) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947994)

Wouldn't it be better to bang a hot chick while she's watching hot porn?

- RG>

Health concerns (1)

camelcai (226109) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947444)

Can this thing explode? Also I feel dizzy when watch something too closely.

heh. (2, Funny)

apodyopsis (1048476) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947460)

to rehash the old joke...

you get home, put on the ol' Indicube and immerse yourself totally in the audio and video of your favorite p*rnstar doing what she does. there you are, she's 2m away in glorious full OLED color and resolution as you are cranking away....

you remove the headphones to find your mum has been in and left tea and biscuits on the side table whilst you were busy.

on a more serious note, add sound canceling headphones and I can see a use for this on a long haul flight.

54 inch screen at 7 feet = 15 inch monitor (3, Informative)

MrSteveSD (801820) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947548)

Yes, a 15 inch monitor (15.4 to be more precise) on your desk 2 feet in front of you has the same field of view. Somehow the sales tag "Like a 15 inch monitor on your desk" doesn't sound quite as impressive. This is one of my pet peeves. You always hear manufacturers explaining how their tiny FOV eyepiece is like an enormous screen at some equally enormous distance. They just pick a distance which coincides with an impressive sounding screen size. If they give you a distance in feet, just divide the screen size by the distance, then multiply by 2. That will give you the equivalent monitor size (2 feet in front of you).

The FOV of this device is actually a bit better than a many I have seen. They often come out as being equivalent to 14 inch monitors rather than 15 inch monitors. It's nice that it can play HD movies but a bit of a shame that the screen is way below HD resolution, making such an exercise fairly pointless.

Since the early 90s I been waiting for an affordable head mounted display (HMD) with a human-like field of view, and sadly I'm still waiting. Even the unaffordable ones have pretty crummy FOVs. Still, if any kind of HMD becomes popular (no matter how poor) it can only be a good thing in the long run. It's bound to result in better products before long.

Bad Summary as Usual (1)

pete-classic (75983) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947608)

The summary calls it a HUD, the article calls it a HMD. The article is right.

-Peter

what for? (1)

TheEden (1213710) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947662)

How funny. What the hell for they need to put Linux into *this*? And who gonna buy it? Like... "I`m such a fan of Linux, that it even runs my portable dvd player"... Crap.

Re:what for? (1)

amRadioHed (463061) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947796)

Umm, probably because Linux is free and does exactly what they need for the device. Would you rather pay extra for it to have a Windows CE backend?

Re:what for? (2, Informative)

ianare (1132971) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947824)

No ... using Linux means tried and tested support for the embedded platform, no royalties to pay, access to source code in case modifications need to be made, access to source code to see exactly what is going on, easy to set up a custom interface, no bloatware mandated by OS vendor, etc etc ...

It's really no surprise to me that Linux is making more and more progress in small devices, and none of it has to do with some sort of imaginary "Linux halo effect". It's just good engineering/business sense.

Re:what for? (1)

aim2future (773846) | more than 6 years ago | (#21948174)

How funny. What the hell for they need to put Linux into *this*? And who gonna buy it? Like... "I`m such a fan of Linux, that it even runs my portable dvd player"...

Would you rather prefer that it would run Vista then...?

Seriously, this is exactly that kind of device I have been waiting for since the middle of 90ies, when I started my wearable project, but... it seems as the displays never make it. I have bought endless amounts of displays several 800x600 only to find that they are unusable due to bad lenses, bad VGA to LCD converters etc.

I would really like a better resolution though, my 12" laptop screen has a 1400x1050 resolution and I would rather not have less resolution than that. I wonder if I will ever get my display, but I will anyway try with this for a while. It is great to have a real linux system together with the display.

OLED lenses (1)

viscus (1178513) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947668)

I'll wait for normal-looking sunglasses with embedded OLED displays. Sony has a prototype flexible and translucent OLED display, so I'm sure it can be done. It'll probably be something that Oakley will be first to market with.

Re:OLED lenses (1)

deanoaz (843940) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947940)

I'll wait for normal looking sunglasses with embedded displays, forward and rearward facing cameras, reactive vision protection, vision enhancements like light amplification, telescopic, microscopic and filtered views, full audio video recording and playback, and the ability to swap views with another wearer remotely.

Re:OLED lenses (1)

MrSteveSD (801820) | more than 6 years ago | (#21948046)

I'll wait for normal looking sunglasses with embedded displays, forward and rearward facing cameras, reactive vision protection, vision enhancements like light amplification, telescopic, microscopic and filtered views, full audio video recording and playback, and the ability to swap views with another wearer remotely.


Would you also like a forearm-mounted computer that you can set for self-destruct while you cackle manically in strange deep alien tones :)

It's funny... (1)

JMZero (449047) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947670)

..the hype of VR died away, and then the technology to make it good came along.

I've got a set of eMagin glasses (can't remember what model, but they're not new) - and playing racing games on them is incredible super-awesome fun. The problem with most racing games is you never feel like you're going fast, but with the glasses you get a great, wonderful feeling of speed (enough so that the game itself is just a bonus).

My prediction: One day quite soon here, people will re-discover VR and it will be huge. The tech is all ready to go, it's just nobody seems to be taking hold of it (I guess nobody wants to produce the next Virtual Boy).

Needs head tracking. (1)

Besna (1175279) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947942)

Moving your head and having the picture stay still will probably be quite nauseating. They need head tracking built in, which means it can't be automatically integrated into games. Same for 3d movies--this is the main distraction when I watch them. Maybe a head brace will solve all this?

Re:Needs head tracking. (1)

JMZero (449047) | more than 6 years ago | (#21948076)

Even the consumer level hardware has rudimentary head tracking (my eMagin set has just tilt sensors, though I usually turn that off because it's "not there yet"). But there are certainly more precise head tracking options available.

And it doesn't preclude integration in games. Tilt can be mapped to mouse-look (and is, with my eMagin setup now - though it's not ideal) while minor position changes can be taken care of at the driver-level (using similar techniques to the ones they use to offset the eyes for the 3d). Supporting large motions (or supporting orientation/movement with better fidelity) would require a bit more change - but nothing that's not doable at, say, the "mod" level.

Re:It's funny... (1)

MrSteveSD (801820) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947988)

I've managed to resist buying any HMDs so far because the FOV is always so poor. I want a huge FOV so I really feel like I'm in the virtual environment. I suppose the more people buy these new systems, the more likely it is that we will get something really good next time around. Walking around a game like Oblivion would be great with a HMD with a human-like field of view. Games will have to be written differently though. The head movements need to be separated from your hand movements.

Re:It's funny... (1)

timeOday (582209) | more than 6 years ago | (#21948176)

I don't think the immaturity of VR in the 90s will really delay its adoption once it becomes ready. Unfortunately simulator sickness is still a very big unsolved problem.

You too can look like Geordi... (1)

jpellino (202698) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947684)

...until you start crashing into junk.

I tried one of these! (1)

filbranden (1168407) | more than 6 years ago | (#21947956)

I tried one of these and it's really cool (it must be expensive though). The image quality is very good. The only thing that bothered me a little about it was that the room was bright and the light was bothering me and distracting me from the video. But I was told that there is another device that you can put around the player to block outside lights.

Overall I found it nice, although it's not really the way I enjoy watching my movies.

Cool! A Minnie Driver/Anne Hathaway love scene! (1)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | more than 6 years ago | (#21948072)

> an eyeglass-like head-mounted display with 800 x 600 resolution. Dreamax's Indicube
> i-800 PMP provides an experience similar to sitting two meters away from a 54-inch screen

I think he meant to say provides an experience similar to sitting two decades away from a "super" VGA screen.

a step closer to full 3D games? (1)

aleph42 (1082389) | more than 6 years ago | (#21948080)

What I really want: some FPS running in real 3D with some of these. That kind of glasses display already existed, but with a 320*240 res (worse than TV!) (for exemple:http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.5998). 800*600 is MUCH better. But I'm not about the connectic: will you have one or two cables to plug?

My dream: a 1280*1024 pair, with two cable, and an option in most game so that it calculates two distinct images of the scene at 6.5cm distance, and output them on two output of your graphic card. That's as immersive as it get, way better than those motion capture thingy for your head or a 3 monitor setup. You could see imediatly if an object is far or closejust as in real life!

What I mean with this overly detailed description is that all the technology is in place, but I apparently am the only one to consider it a majer step up for game to have full 3D. I mean, it would be so much better than a hhigher resolution or even better shaders.

what would be REALLY nice (1)

m1ndrape (971736) | more than 6 years ago | (#21948100)

is to combine this with an webcam facing outwards with 10x optical zoom. pressing a button on the side of the visor and presto it turns into binoculars, or have it display a picture-in-picture (even maybe have a webcam looking behind you?).

Here's what we want... (1)

hovercycle (1118435) | more than 6 years ago | (#21948196)

How about an affordable, wearable, 800x600 display that I can use with my broken laptop to turn it into a cyberdeck! a.k.a. a wearable monitor... We don't want to watch movies on the train... We want to kill people! Here's an idea, take a 800x480 (n800 || psp size) lcd w/controller and package it with as little bulk as possible (yes I realize there may be some bulkiness involved) and sell it to us with a webcam that can be used to overlay data on the world and as a multitouch like this dude did with the wiimote Wii-mote Hack Adds Multitouch Without the "Touch" [filefront.com] ; Now we have a cyberdeck! w/ VR controls! Yes I realize the z800 does this with head tracking but if you could get the form factor of this PMP... OH Baby! I'd bust out the buckz!

The 90s called ... (1)

desideria (140436) | more than 6 years ago | (#21948272)

... and want their crappy ideas back.

Virtual i/o, Phillips (1)

Loconut1389 (455297) | more than 6 years ago | (#21948278)

they've re-invented the i-Glasses. Yay. Resolution was the same as the nicer, later ones.
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