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625 comments

Somewhere (4, Funny)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 6 years ago | (#21982910)

Ralph Nader just fell out of his chair.

Re:Somewhere (2, Interesting)

Garette (206805) | more than 6 years ago | (#21982954)

Would any one in the western world even think of buying this car? Even for driving in the cities/small towns?

Re:Somewhere (2, Insightful)

ArcherB (796902) | more than 6 years ago | (#21982974)

Would any one in the western world even think of buying this car? Even for driving in the cities/small towns?

I would if I never had to enter a freeway.

Unfortunately, that's not the case.

Re:Somewhere (3, Insightful)

smilindog2000 (907665) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983160)

This car isn't designed for US roads, where it would be a menace. It's designed for Indian roads, which I've never seen, but which I suspect are similar to roads in Italy. Imagine a country where the roads are exactly like a huge Target parking lot. This is Italy. The Tata Nano would be perfect.

Nope (0, Offtopic)

aepervius (535155) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983022)

Because of all the security concern & security upgrade which would be needed to bring it up par to our own security standard.

Re:Somewhere (4, Funny)

SQLGuru (980662) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983096)

I'd buy one for my commute. I have a Nissan Armada that I bought before gas prices went skyrocketing. I needed something with lots of space because of what I was carrying around and it was the roomiest. My needs have changed and I can't get out of it what I owe (who wants a gas hog these days). This car would be perfect for my commute (against traffic, 10 miles - takes less than 15 minutes each way even if I hit all of the lights) and would fit within my budget.

I wouldn't even need any extra garage space.....I could just build a ramp up into my Armada and park it there.....three cars in a two car garage.

Layne

Re:Somewhere (4, Funny)

bleh-of-the-huns (17740) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983204)

And when you go on holiday to another big city, you just pack the Tata into the back of your Armada and drive off :)

Re:Somewhere (1)

bleh-of-the-huns (17740) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983270)

I should have read your entire comment before hitting reply.. I redundacized (yes I made that up) myself.

I'd buy one, too. (2, Interesting)

maillemaker (924053) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983394)

I've been waiting for these little micro-cars to come out on the market. I had high hopes for the "Smart Car", but it's price is up around $12,000, and now they are down to 40MPG or so.

I think we are entering a phase of American driving where people will have a tiny, one-person, gas-sipping commuter car to go to work every day, and a "family car" for long-distance travels on the weekends.

And before everyone freaks out about the safety, I figure it's safer than a motorcycle.

Re:I'd buy one, too. (4, Insightful)

moosesocks (264553) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983574)

Yes, but the mentality of a motorcycle driver is somewhat different from the the mentality of a car driver.

A motorcycle driver *knows* that he will very likely die if he crashes at high speed. Car drivers typically don't tend to exercise the same amount of caution.

Likewise, the handling and braking on a $2500 car can't be all that good. Pedestrian injuries seem extremely likely.

Re:I'd buy one, too. (1)

pixelpusher220 (529617) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983596)

It may be safer than a motorcycle when it gets hit yes. But if I'm driving a motorcycle I'm a *lot* more cautious about where I stick my nose in traffic than when I'm driving a fully enclosed car.

Now give it to people who've never had the luxury of swearing and flipping off the other maniacs from behind closed doors and windows and I suspect you'll see quite a few accidents ;-)

Re:Somewhere (1, Interesting)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983416)

you will never be able to buy one. not in the USA. The auto lobbiests try their hardest to keep cars like that out of the states. they cite BS things like safety and other things.

That's why it took the SMART almost 8 years to get into the USA. And after "Americanizing" it to make it "safe" (you Canadians and Europeans with your death traps!) it is no longer an affordable car but a expensive curiosity. The Smart can be purchased starting at $18,000 but mostly priced around $24,000 because the only model available is the luxury model. Yes I know this as I talked to the guys out at ZAP! for the past 5 years trying to get one, and now the local dealer that has 4 on the lot and has them priced even higher than the MSRP.

This car will never be allowed in the USA, you will hear "experts" claim how incredibly unsafe it is, and probably some claiming how bad it pollutes.

Re:Somewhere (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21983452)

"against traffic, 10 miles - takes less than 15 minutes each way even if I hit all of the lights"

Or you could buy a push bike!

Re:Somewhere (2, Funny)

stiller (451878) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983520)

because of what I was carrying around

My needs have changed
Are we secretely talking about how you lost weight and thus no longer need this enormous SUV? If so, for a 10 mile commute, maybe you should consider taking a bicycle instead and lose even more. By the end of this year, you would be riding a unicycle to work! On the other hand, I go to the gym by car, so I'm not really setting an example here...

Re:Somewhere (4, Informative)

Bearhouse (1034238) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983174)

Having driven in India, I'm damned if I'd buy one there, either. I would not feel safe in anything less than a heavy tank.
Rover's 'CityRover', (a re-badged Tata), was a failure in the UK, being panned for virtually everything.

Still, some people in the West have bought the appalling 'Gee Whizz', which lets you have windscreen wipers, or lights, on a rainy night - but not both. It also virtually guarantees that you perish in the inevitable accident. If you want all-electric, get a Tesla, (rather pricy, though)

The Smart car is much safer, but a commercial failure.

BTW, the Beetle was not VW's idea - it was Hitler's. VW was created to produce the Beetle, which was designed by Dr. Porsche, (who also did other fun stuff like Panzers).

Re:Somewhere (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21983448)

The Bug was not VW, Hitler, or Dr. Porsche's idea. It originated in Czech and was stolen, and built upon. It was very likely a much better car than the original Czech version, but it was not an original German idea. I wasn't there first hand to see this happen, but Germany paid restitution for the "stolen IP", so this is pretty much fact in the history books.

Re:Somewhere (1)

arivanov (12034) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983422)

You cannot. It will not pass basic safety regs and more specifically the standard 35mph crash into a wall test.

It is the same design as the G-Wiz (also Indian by the way). There is a big chunk of weight in the back which will simply collapse the entire frame on top of the passengers in a crash.

There is a reason why the West has abandoned this design. Once upon a time many cars were made like this - Skoda, VW, Citroen, etc all had an engine in the back because you can have a very simple suspension and a very simple transmission. Unfortunately this design behaves very badly in a crash and this is the exact noone makes mass production cars like this any more.

Re:Somewhere (1)

lloydchristmas759 (1105487) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983444)

Actually this kind of car has existed for more than a decade [wikipedia.org] . Sales are quite good in Europe these days.

It costs 10'000 $ though.

Re:Somewhere (1)

ByOhTek (1181381) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983466)

Provided it did decently in safety/crash tests (which is possible), then yes.

Cheap fuel, cheap car, has enough power/performance to get the family around town and to/from the grocery store.
Why not? Depending on the safety test results, I may have a strict, no-freeway rule for my own use, but given traffic jams on the freeways around here, sometimes it's faster not to use them anyway.

My best friend would be all over one in an instant, but she likes small things (maybe I should consider it a compliment she won't date me?), and probably wouldn't have the sense to avoid the freeway on one. I suspect if these come to the US, she'll die within a year :-(

Re:Somewhere (1)

Bob_Sheep (988029) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983508)

This car is designed for the people who try to fit an entire family onto one scooter because they cant afford to buy a car. For them this car will immensely improve their safety when on the roads.

Re:Somewhere (1)

Ngarrang (1023425) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983376)

Ralph Nader just fell out of his chair.
No he wouldn't, because he would be wearing a seat belt. But, in reading the press released, it mentions "...with safety features such as crumple zones..." Where>! To have crumple zones, you actually some car around you.

Re:Somewhere (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21983440)

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the VW idea lives on... (2, Insightful)

i.r.id10t (595143) | more than 6 years ago | (#21982926)

Nice to see the VW idea (small affordable car for The People) keeping on. Also nice to see that the low horsepower is there, after all, horsepower is for those who can't keep their speeds up in the corners.

Re:the VW idea lives on... (-1, Troll)

Eddy Luten (1166889) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983100)

"Nice to see the VW idea (small affordable car for The People) keeping on." Yes, we're keeping Hitler's idea alive and well these days. Anyway, what a horrible puny looking thing but I guess it doesn't really matter when you drive like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjrEQaG5jPM [youtube.com]

Re:the VW idea lives on... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21983208)

Was the bud-bud-bud-bud I kept hearing coming from the engines or the drivers?

Re:the VW idea lives on... (5, Insightful)

Applekid (993327) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983230)

Yes, we're keeping Hitler's idea alive and well these days
So, the idea of an affordable car for everyone is invalid because it was Hitler's, or do you have a real argument against it?

I heard Hitler liked breakfast, too.

Re:the VW idea lives on... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21983460)

You know who else liked to point out logical fallacies. Yeah.

Re:the VW idea lives on... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21983482)

Hitler used to sleep all morning, I doubt if he had breakfast. He did like lie-ins however, which is sucky because I'll now have to give them up.

Re:the VW idea lives on... (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21983598)

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Re:the VW idea lives on... (1)

sadtrev (61519) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983548)

One other unintended consequence (besides the congestion and pollution) may be that of reducing the average family size to 4.

Re:the VW idea lives on... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21983292)

horsepower is for those who can't keep their speeds up in the corners.

You either don't live in hilly terrain, or always drive downhill.

Re:the VW idea lives on... (1)

FudRucker (866063) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983400)

i totally agree, just go to any Chevrolet or Dodge or Ford dealership and you cant get a new car for less than 15 thousand dollars, i surely hope small inexpensive cars like this Tata come to the USA, for those that putter around town surface streets @ no faster than 40MPH the little 30HP motor will do fine, getting on the expressway or Interstate highway might be a little more of a challenge...

What's in a name (5, Funny)

Ilan Volow (539597) | more than 6 years ago | (#21982950)

When I hear the phrase "$2500 tatas", cars isn't the first thing that comes to mind.

Re:What's in a name (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21982966)

I know!

I thought of your moms fake tits too!!

$2,500? (1)

Bogtha (906264) | more than 6 years ago | (#21982956)

Small potatoes.

The People's Car? (-1, Redundant)

Marcion (876801) | more than 6 years ago | (#21982964)

The article talks about "The People's Car", I thought that was Trademark Adolf Hitler?

Re:The People's Car? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21983050)

You're thinking of Stalin. Anyway, what's it's top speed? If it's 15 mph, no thinks.

Re:The People's Car? (1)

Omestes (471991) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983290)

Parent is refering to Volkwagen, which means "People's Car" in German. They were Hitler's idea. (wow, I can mention Hitler and not pull a Godwin).

For more see: Wikipedia [wikipedia.org] .

Re:The People's Car? (1)

kellyb9 (954229) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983486)

The article talks about "The People's Car", I thought that was Trademark Adolf Hitler?
LMAO, Clearly, they didnt do their research.

30BHP and only 54MPG? (0, Troll)

Bertie (87778) | more than 6 years ago | (#21982980)

That's pathetic. There's cars several times more bigger and more powerful than that which can do better. For example, the Fiat Punto 1.3 Multijet diesel gets a combined figure of 63 miles per (British) gallon. It produces about 70BHP.

Re:30BHP and only 54MPG? (5, Informative)

Da Fokka (94074) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983056)

Unbelievable! Especially since the Punto is only 8 times as expensive [honestjohn.co.uk] . You are comparing apples and golden oranges.

Re:30BHP and only 54MPG? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21983474)

But, but, but...

you could buy 2 mopeds for the less money, and get 100+ mpg if you only need to transport 1 or 2 people, or 50+ mpg (both mopeds) to transport 4 people

Of course, it's up to them, and it may be an improvement in India since their emission regulations are far less strict than in the west. But people in the west shouldn't see it as an efficient car, which it seems to be promoted as.

Re:30BHP and only 54MPG? (1)

denominateur (194939) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983076)

well, it's a two-stroke, very simple, very cheap, very easy to service

Two Cylinder - Four Stroke (4, Informative)

sjbe (173966) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983214)

well, it's a two-stroke, very simple, very cheap, very easy to service


It's a two cylinder, four stroke [wikipedia.org] engine. I misread that the first time too. From TFA:

powered by a 30 HP Bosch 624 cc four stroke engine mounted out back and mated to a CVT. That makes the Nano the first time a 2-cylinder gasoline engine will be used in a car with a single balancer shaft.

Re:30BHP and only 54MPG? (5, Insightful)

Albanach (527650) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983080)

For example, the Fiat Punto 1.3 Multijet diesel gets a combined figure of 63 miles per (British) gallon.
But it's a diesel so you're comparing apples to oranges.

Normally you pay extra for a diesel engine, sometimes almost as much as the $2,500 that is the entire cost of this car.

Re:30BHP and only 54MPG? (1)

asdfgl (891883) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983180)

Yes, compared to the punto it's pathetic. Though you have to remember that the engine of the Punto has far more complex to achieve that kind of mileage and thus much more expensive to manufacture and purchase... It is probably far more unreliable too.

As I myself is privileged in that I own more than one car, I use to drive an old Citroën 2CV during the summer. It has a very weak engine, and no better mileage than my more modern car, and i definitely wouln't want to be in accident with it. However, it is so reliable, being so simple mechanically that anything which could possible go wrong is quick and easy to fix. This is a niche that is perfect for the Nano, cheap to buy (which alas, the 2CV is not), and cheap to own. This leads to compromises, and a simple and weak engine is one of them...

Re:30BHP and only 54MPG? (1)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983334)

I used to have one too. I only ever had to do a few repairs (once pulled the "umbrella" handbrake up too far and it stuck in the slot - had to disconnect it below) but most only needed pliers and a swiss army knife.

I agree about the crash safety - you're probably less protected than a motorcylist.

Re:30BHP and only 54MPG? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21983280)

Fiat Punto has 40more horses and gives 9MPG more, but it costs about £10K.

Re:30BHP and only 54MPG? (1)

slumberer (859696) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983328)

Yeah well the Fiat costs a lot more as well. Remember that these are aimed the Indian market where price is a lot more importatnt.

Re:30BHP and only 54MPG? (1)

mrchaotica (681592) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983432)

Screw the Punto; Honda CRX HFs and Geo Metro LSis* got equally good fuel economy 20 years ago!

(*It might be the XFi instead; it was whichever one had the 3-cylinder engine)

free planet/population rescue initiative unveiled (-1, Troll)

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Notice the Green hatred ... (1, Flamebait)

Syncerus (213609) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983038)

Link to article at the FoxNews web site:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,321567,00.html [foxnews.com]

I found the comments from the Greens very enlightening. Notice the lack of joy for the poor who will now be able to drive.

Their comments fall in the "let them eat cake" category.

Re:Notice the Green hatred ... (2, Informative)

Reality Master 101 (179095) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983168)

I found the comments from the Greens very enlightening. Notice the lack of joy for the poor who will now be able to drive. Their comments fall in the "let them eat cake" category.

To be fair, the Greens would prefer that we *all* eat cake and live like the poorest indians (excepting other Green leaders and spokespeople, of course). :)

Re:Notice the Green hatred ... (1)

CaptainZapp (182233) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983344)

A Fox News web site commenting on greens?

Hell! I'm sure they must be fair and balanced...

Re:Notice the Green hatred ... (1)

moosesocks (264553) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983402)

1) It's an AP article. Not written by the Fox News staff

2) What comments? Safety concerns about the car do appear to be legitimate, and congestion is a *big* issue for India. Adding millions of cars to the roads will wreck havoc upon the national infrastructure, and produce tons of pollution.

It's important for everybody to have access to reliable transportation. However, adding more cars to the roads might not be the best solution to that problem. Personal vehicles are a piss poor solution for large, densely populated cities. Essential services and jobs can be easily placed within walking distances, and public transport should be able to take care of the rest.

If you want to criticize the "let them eat cake" mentality, start speaking out about the absurdity of the OLPC project. Those guys are far more guilty of it than the people concerned about the sustainability of placing millions of unsafe cars into an already overcrowded road network.

Re:Notice the Green hatred ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21983594)

--
Their comments fall in the "let them eat cake" category.
--

Er, no. Their comments fall in the "there's no free ride" category. Car drivers need to pay for the pollution costs of their choices, not yammer on about what they are entitled to do.

Gridlock & Monoxide (0, Troll)

sciop101 (583286) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983044)

Lots of cheap little cars congealing into gridlock and pumping effluents into the air!

PROGRESS AT LAST!

India is a developing country. Pollution does not exist, along with child labor, substandard wages, and living conditions.

Re:Gridlock & Monoxide (1)

deniable (76198) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983134)

And I remember someone saying that they were building this to get people off their bicycles. More pollution, more traffic, less exercise, everyone's a winner.

Please import this to the States... (5, Funny)

ciaohound (118419) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983046)

because the Nano's bra is the only one I have any chance of taking off. (No, I don't live in my parents' basement, I am married with young kids. The effect on one's sex life is the same.)

Shouldn't call it a "car" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21983048)

Instead use "the alleged car".

Oh no ! (1)

HansKloss (665474) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983058)

"The tiny car is a four door, five seat hatch, powered by a 30 HP engine that gets 54 miles per gallon."

It's not enough that they make terrible printers and now this...

Re:Oh no ! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21983286)

haha, in car terms HP stands for horsepower, for reals. not hewlett packard.

nerd.

Standards, (1)

oliverthered (187439) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983088)

We already know that this car doesn't have things like power strearing but does it have things like air bags and ABS and meet the same saftey requirements for Europe (and anywhere else with strong safety requirements)

and I dread to think what the build quality is like!

Re:Standards, (1)

srussia (884021) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983156)

We already know that this car doesn't have things like power strearing but does it have things like air bags and ABS and meet the same saftey requirements for Europe (and anywhere else with strong safety requirements)?

Probably not. But probably still safer than a motorcycle.

Re:Standards, (1, Insightful)

faloi (738831) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983206)

It might be safer than a motorcycle in a crash, but loses some of the maneuverability that might help prevent an accident. It's likely got none of the safety features of a "real car," and none of the agility of a motorcycle. The worst of both worlds.

Standards !!! (1)

anandsr (148302) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983484)

You do know that people do not wear helmets while driving motorcycles, even on highways ignoring the laws, which exists against such driving.

Nano will be definitely a much safer proposition, even if they don't use the provided seat belts. Talking about Air Bags is luxury. Even medium level cars don't have those in India, and I am sure in many developing countries around the world, where they are thinking of exporting it.

A simple car is like open hardware, anybody can fix it.

crumple... (2, Insightful)

apodyopsis (1048476) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983104)

hmmm, thats a mighty small crumple zone that the passengers all sit in.

no thanks, if I wanted a micro city car then I'd get a SMART. at least that has a safety tridon cage around the passengers, and does better mpg. it also performs surprisingly well on the safety test. though on an impact I would put my money on the other car...

Re:crumple... (4, Insightful)

Malc (1751) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983182)

And affordable is that to the people of India?

Re:crumple... (2, Funny)

robot_love (1089921) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983296)

And affordable is that to the people of India?


Is that you, Yoda?

Re:crumple... (1)

scsirob (246572) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983314)

[quote]no thanks, if I wanted a micro city car then I'd get a SMART[/quote]
Yes, but you have money, as you also have a computer, and time to spare to place comments on Slashot.

Re:crumple... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21983318)

TFA talks about replacing mopeds on India's roads; I'd rather take the crumple zone provided by the Tata, then by my whole family on a moped.

Wasn't this tried before... (1)

edwardpickman (965122) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983136)

One that comes to mind is the Yugo. There have been several others all of which were underpowered and unsafe. There's just so much steel you can buy for that much money and just so much power you're going to get out of an over sized lawn mower engine. It could go a long way to solving India's population problems but there has to be better ways of dealing with that than road attrition.

Re:Wasn't this tried before... (1)

tgd (2822) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983222)

Get a billion people on the road and traffic will be so bad you won't be able to go fast enough to be injured in an accident.

Actually I'd be curious to know what the number of traffic fatalities involving people IN a vehicle are in extremely dense cities...

Some addtional facts..... (5, Informative)

8127972 (73495) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983150)

... Besides being the largest car company in India according to this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tata_Motors [wikipedia.org]

They are in the process of buying Jaguar and Land Rover from Ford:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080103.wford0103/BNStory/Business [theglobeandmail.com]

It also owns pieces of Daewoo to boot. They're not a small player. The big three might want to take notice.

look out for jaguar, then (1)

swschrad (312009) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983502)

they'll make jags out of rejects from the beer can on wheels.

Good Business Oppurtunity (4, Interesting)

madhatter256 (443326) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983162)

I think this car would fare better in city markets. They can be used as taxis and replace the gas guzzling V8 Taxis that take up the road in NYC. With the size of the car being small, this can put more cars on the road.

Re:Good Business Oppurtunity (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21983556)

Why? short of the "cheapness" a far better solution is something like this velomobile [go-one.us]

9000mpg, zero emissions other than slightly elevated C02 levels and water vapor. Plus instead of being fat and lazy it makes you lean and fit.

and before you say anything, Yes I have ridden one. a 10 mile commute in the winter (3 inches of snow on the ground) is very doable. the streamlining makes it really easy to pedal and you can easily maintain 10mph in it. close all the vents and treat the canopy with "never fog" and you actually will take off your jacket because it's so warm.

Oh and those of you claiming you will get killed, ran over, nobody will see you... Really? in bright yellow cars give you a HUGE safe distance when they pass. It's way safer and practical than a bike.

Oh and it made me lose nearly 100 pounds.

Top speed (2, Informative)

LotsOfPhil (982823) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983176)

Heard about this on NPR and they said the top speed is ~50 miles per hour.

Re:Top speed (1)

gzerphey (1006177) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983624)

trouble is it takes about three hours to get up to that speed.

No thanks.... (1)

Lxy (80823) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983178)

I don't want to be the boob that gets seen in this thing.

Re:No thanks.... (1)

darjen (879890) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983472)

My thoughts as well. The design looks terrible, and is similar to the smart fortwo... which I would consider to be a bad thing. Why can't they make it look more like a normal hatchback?

Re:No thanks.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21983610)

how fitting your .sig is in this case.

Now India has its own Nano (1)

priyank_bolia (1024411) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983228)

Now India has its own Nano, much bigger in size and not so big in price than Apple Nano :) Tatas have done truly imaginative work for making India proud. A 4 seater family car, with great mileage for just $2500 and produces lesser pollution than bikes, confirms all safety tests and 21% more interior space. A true masterpiece for a families who had to ride on bikes in a unsecured way, in weathers like rain, an extreme hot conditions. What Reliance has done for telecommunication, Tatas has done for Automobiles. I am looking when govt. will look for making broadband available for 2$ and looking forward the way the world will change by OLPC and Asus Eee PC and wikipedia.

Re:Now India has its own Nano (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21983384)

what the shit does wikipedia have to do with this car

Why such poor fuel consumption?? (1)

ps236 (965675) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983232)

There seems to be lots of hype about it being efficient with it capable of doing 54mpg, but...

My BMW 320d Touring can do 57.6 mpg (combined cycle) according to the official figures (which is probably the same method that they came up with 54mpg). Since the Tato Nano should weigh so much less than my Beamer, I'd expect it to be more efficient, not less...

I can't find any technical specs for the Nano anywhere to know how the 54mpg was measured, but even if it's in the urban cycle, the BMW does 46.7mpg, which isn't that much less to say all the extra room, safety (and probably comfort) that you get from it.

OK, the BMW is considerably more expensive, but the way the Tato Nano is being written about you'd think 54mpg was so amazingly efficient it's newsworthy, when it isn't (at least by European standards)... The price is, but nothing else.

Re:Why such poor fuel consumption?? (1)

bleh-of-the-huns (17740) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983442)

Only considerably...... how about the leather seat option alone being more expensive then the Tata, hell the car radio is probably more expensive.. in fact I bet the floor mat option is more expensive.. (okay that last one is me being sarcastic)...

But you get my point, you are comparing a $50k car to a $2.5k car.. not quite in the same market..

Re:Why such poor fuel consumption?? (1)

Trouvist (958280) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983588)

BTW, it's "Bimmer" but you had the pronunciation correct.

Re:Why such poor fuel consumption?? (1)

MattBurke (58682) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983654)

"considerably more expensive"? Try over 20 times more expensive! (UK 320d touring poverty spec = £27,000. Tato Nano according to the article = £1,250)

Your DIESEL can do 47mpg combined cycle (according to specs), but the petrol 320 can only do 37 and that's with millions of euros worth of development on it. What's the urban figure for the petrol 320?

Sure the VAG group have come up with some very economic little engines (eg. the VW Lupo) but those cars still only do 60mpg extra-urban AND they cost the consumer 6 times more than this thing will to buy.

Now, you try getting a 2 cylinder engine to carry 4 people at 50mph and do 54mpg on a shoestring budget...

The "Future" has been here for quite some time... (3, Insightful)

stubear (130454) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983284)

...and it's called diesel [treehugger.com] . However, we have politicians too stupid to see that diesel powered vehicles can get the gas mileage consumers demand while burning cleaner than gasoline combustion engines can like environmentalists want. Stupid states like California and Massachusetts outright ban these vehicles for new car sales. If diesel is so awful, I saw no evidence of that on a recent trip to Paris where diesel cars are everywhere. Diesel also offers a path to biodiesel through conversion kits which could ultimately smooth the transition to a renewable energy source that a)helps the U.S. economy and b)helps lower carbon emissions dramatically.

Slap a VTEC sticker on (1, Funny)

sjbe (173966) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983324)

I can't wait until the sport compact [wikipedia.org] crowd gets a hold of the Nano. Who's going to be first to slap a VTEC [wikipedia.org] sticker on the back?

Robin Williams (1)

Speare (84249) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983338)

Okay, so who can imagine this car parked in front of a black background, slightly steaming, with Robin Williams popping out of it in a garish 1970s striped shirt? He can rant about oddities of the human condition, and close with an odd hand-gesture saying Nano, Nano.

Yes, I watched too much television as a youth. I liked that show until I saw Jonathan Winters in a diaper. Oy!

Optimism (1)

Random BedHead Ed (602081) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983388)

This is why I'm generally optimistic about the future: because if we can't do something in the United States, at least we've reached the point where someone, somewhere will find a way. We utterly failed to regulate the OS market by giving Microsoft little more than a slap on the wrist, but the EU seems to have its priorities straight, and has forced the company to open some of its key protocols. In the US our cars are pricey gas guzzlers because it's one of the markets that progresses the most slowly, but this Indian company has no qualms about turning the entire market upside down. Good for them.

But does it run.. (1)

slashmojo (818930) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983414)

at all. ;)

Seriously though.. seems like a bargain. Wonder how much it will cost us outside india when import duties are added and whaterver other charges the govt. piles on in various parts of the world.

To makers of bad Americans cars (1)

ProteusQ (665382) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983430)

Ha-ha! [wikipedia.org]

India Finally Shows us its Tatas (1)

MrCopilot (871878) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983462)

Really, I prefered my Title.

Grainy Video from the floor [mrcopilot.com] plus pics and an examination of what Tata had to cut out to make the price.

Doh! (1)

MobyDisk (75490) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983530)

This useless comment is just so I can undo a moderation where it looks like I selected the wrong item from the drop-down list. Doh! Stupid scroll wheel!

Tata Nano? (1)

Chineseyes (691744) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983542)

Tata Nano?

Listen making mp3 players smaller == good
Making Tatas smaller == bad

Seriously, my first thoughts were... (2, Funny)

kellyb9 (954229) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983560)

"oh my god, I CAN AFFORD THIS!!!" Doesn't seem like it'll ever make it to the States though... doesn't it have to be over a certain size and emit a lot more pollutants into the air?

Tata Improved MPG Option (1)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983632)

Just hitch a horse to the front like they did in that Borat movie.

how is this car fuel efficient? (1)

Chris whatever (980992) | more than 6 years ago | (#21983640)

Fuel efficient for me means that you take a car like a Honda, same size, same HP and create something in the same range but consumes less than it's competition.

here we have a car not much bigger than a little tike plastic car with a 30hp motor that burns 4gallons of gas for 86 km or 56 milles.......that's about normal consumption for a car that size, nothing to be impressed about anything here except the price.

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