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Sun Buys MySQL

CmdrTaco posted more than 6 years ago | from the didn't-see-that-coming dept.

Databases 588

Krow alerted me that MySQL has been bought by Sun. Right now there is only a brief announcement but it discusses what the acquisition will mean for the core developers, community etc.

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588 comments

Does anyone know why is my karma rated as terrible (-1, Redundant)

The_Fire_Horse (552422) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065358)

FIRST POST BIATCHES

Ah, SHIT - I've done it again... never mind. I just cant seem to resist getting a First Post (mind you - this shouldn't ban me for life as 'terrible' karma - should it?)

Re:Does anyone know why is my karma rated as terri (-1, Offtopic)

DeeQ (1194763) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065382)

Sure it should, if you dont have the common sense to go AC when doing dumb post like that you deserve the negitive karma :)

Re:Does anyone know why is my karma rated as terri (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22065812)

Karma, shawarma: Dharma!

Re:Does anyone know why is my karma rated as terri (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22065514)

If you don't actually post anything, it isn't really the first post, is it?

Re:Does anyone know why is my karma rated as terri (0, Offtopic)

ZeroExistenZ (721849) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065630)

I've done it again

By "it", you mean "proved I have nothing worthwhile to do with my time other then sitting here, waiting for a new slashdot post. I'm even too inept to search other places for technology news or to do something significant with my life that I'll one day appear on slashdot in a duped article"?

I wonder (5, Interesting)

BadHaggis (1179673) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065376)

One can only hope that they will be using this to replace the database that comes in Open Office.

Re:I wonder (5, Interesting)

goose-incarnated (1145029) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065536)

One can only hope that they will be using this to replace the database that comes in Open Office.

Seconded, thoroughly - in addition I would like some decent gui tools for single-user data-storage requirements; it's annoying that any pc user who wants to maintain a list of (contacts/friends/must-see-movies/must-read-books/etc) puts everything into a spreadsheet.

--
Homo homini lupus

?Every man is a wolf?

Re:I wonder (0, Offtopic)

cp.tar (871488) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065676)

--
Homo homini lupus

?Every man is a wolf?

Man is a wolf to man.

Re:I wonder (5, Funny)

Meneth (872868) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065714)

Seconded, thoroughly - in addition I would like some decent gui tools for single-user data-storage requirements; it's annoying that any pc user who wants to maintain a list of (contacts/friends/must-see-movies/must-read-books/etc) puts everything into a spreadsheet.
I like Notepad with a fixed font.

Re:I wonder (2, Interesting)

Firehed (942385) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065972)

Seconded, thoroughly - in addition I would like some decent gui tools for single-user data-storage requirements; it's annoying that any pc user who wants to maintain a list of (contacts/friends/must-see-movies/must-read-books/etc) puts everything into a spreadsheet.

Well, there's nothing fundamentally wrong with that. A spreadsheet is effectively just a less structured database, and given that you're talking about freeform data... and in any case those kind of lists aren't going to have enough data that a spreadsheet becomes inappropriate.

And to be honest, does it really matter what method they're using to make their lists? I'd rather be sent a CSV than a SQL file, and despite being a proponent of open standards, I can still open up an Excel file no problem. Yeah, I'd prefer to see just sharing out a page on Google Docs or just being handed a sheet of paper, but that's life.

Re:I wonder (4, Funny)

Mr. Underbridge (666784) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065688)

One can only hope that they will be using this to replace the database that comes in Open Office.

I figured MS was paying them to include the current one to make Access look good by comparison.

Im a sun employee (3, Interesting)

Mark Atwood (19301) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065378)

First post!

So now I'm a Sun employee. Interesting. No more BK at MySQL.

What all this means, I'm sure I'll be learning the hard way very soon.

Re:Im a sun employee (4, Funny)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065466)

No more BK at MySQL.
Are you saying that Sun employees don't eat Whoppers? Does Sun have stock in McDonald's?

Re:Im a sun employee (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22065678)

Congratulations! Sun has a popular product at last.

They stand to make a lot of money off this acquisition.

Re:Im a sun employee (1)

perdelucena (455667) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065740)

mv JavaDB [sun.com] MySQL

Re:Im a sun employee (0, Offtopic)

Karl Cocknozzle (514413) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065930)

Are you having a Whopper Freakout yet?

Re:Im a sun employee (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22065982)

Maybe Sun will fire the idiots who said that RI, ACID, Triggers, and Stored Procedures aren't necessary for a real database. One can hope.

Sun? (1)

poena.dare (306891) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065380)

Sun? Not Google?

Something's wrong here.

Re:Sun? (4, Interesting)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065522)

screw google. hard to find a more evil company these days (ignore their 'newspeak' nonsense about not doing evil. those that know about google and haven't been inducted into 'the society' know about google and avoid it like the plague).

sun hires older workers (disc: I work at sun). when I interviewed at google, though, I was the oldest 'grey hair' in the whole cafeteria ;(

then, see the brian reid story to confirm all this evilness about google.

please think twice about parotting the 'google is not evil' mantra, because I assure you - if you are over mid 30's, they will either not hire you OR fire you before you are about to vest. quite evil.

so I'm glad its not going into the hands of google. they have enough power and are corrupt enough, already.

(really, go search on brian reid - it may turn your view around about 'the beloved google'). sad to say, but it is true.

Re:Sun? (4, Funny)

timster (32400) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065638)

Man, I KNOW -- they didn't hire me either. Totally evil.

Re:Sun? (2, Interesting)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065722)

they hired brian and then fired him just before he was about to vest. they gave some cock and bull story about 'being too old fashioned' but if you knew brian (and I actually do) then you'd know this was a total blatant lie.

its not about not being hired - its about their hiring CRITERIA and retention methods. seriously, this has surfaced a few times and its not exactly a secret anymore.

I feel I dodged a bullet by not going there. who wants to work like a slave and then be fired right BEFORE you vest. evil!

Re:Sun? (4, Funny)

glwtta (532858) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065780)

Man, I KNOW -- they didn't hire me either. Totally evil.

And I even baked them a cake shaped like the internet!

Re:Sun? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22065756)

did you bake them a cake shaped like the internet?

Re:Sun? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22065788)

Just searched using Google; found nothing...

Re:Sun? (0, Troll)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065964)

Re:Sun? (-1, Troll)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065992)

"He was fired in February 2004, nine days before Google's IPO was announced, allegedly costing him US$38 million in stock options"

go ahead - tell me that isn't cold fucking blooded evil.

Re:Sun? (2, Funny)

goose-incarnated (1145029) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065834)

then, see the brian reid story to confirm all this evilness about google.

I googled for it, but nothing really evil came up

Oh, wait ...

Re:Sun? (1)

Mr. Underbridge (666784) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065986)

So you think enough of google to apply, don't get hired, then assume that when you're not hired it's because of your age? Ever consider you just didn't cut it?

Re:Sun? (-1, Troll)

Goaway (82658) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065584)

Sun are very experienced in pushing utter junk software, so mysql was a natural fit for them.

Re:Sun? (5, Interesting)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065592)

It's a bit odd considering how much effort Sun put in to pushing PostgreSQL on Solaris in the last year or so. I wonder what their goal in this acquisition is.

Re:Sun? (1, Troll)

Xest (935314) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065818)

To destroy competition and make PostgreSQL even stronger ;) ?

THE NEW COMMENTS SYSTEM! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22065394)

HOW IT BURNS!

Seriously, how the fuck do I view -1, threaded?

Re:THE NEW COMMENTS SYSTEM! (2)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065488)

Seriously, how the fuck do I view -1, threaded?
Try the Prefs link on the far left side of the bar thing at the top.

Re:THE NEW COMMENTS SYSTEM! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22065508)

see that new bit to the left "32 comments", drag it down.

very web 2.0

Re:THE NEW COMMENTS SYSTEM! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22065824)

see that new bit to the left "32 comments", drag it down.

very
FUCKING GAY.

Fixed your post.

Licenses (4, Interesting)

ilovegeorgebush (923173) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065398)

Interesting surprise! I wonder if Sun will streamline the licensing madness that MySQL has become...

Re:Licenses (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22065526)

I wonder if Sun will streamline the licensing madness that MySQL has become...
I'm sure that's part of the plan. Streamlined madness is what I've come to expect from Sun.

Re:Licenses (5, Insightful)

Martian_Kyo (1161137) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065546)

mysql license is real mess, it can be interpreted in so many ways.

Re:Licenses (5, Interesting)

Spy der Mann (805235) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065782)

mysql license is real mess, it can be interpreted in so many ways.

Mod parent insightful, please!

I recall reading that MySQL AB really didn't stand a chance to force the GPL (and therefore, move to their proprietary license) on programs that connected to the database because that was "dynamically linking". Dude, WTF? Using protocols to communicate to a program or service is NOT linking! I got so angry when I read the news on the License change, that I wanted to tag the story "greedybastards".
But if MySQL AB told the truth, then nobody would buy their ultra-expensive license.

On the other hand, Sun and their promotion of Open Office (and open formats) is a proper example of Free software.

Let's hope things change for the good (for example, re-releasing the MySQL client software to LGPL or GPL+linking exception).

Re:Licenses (1)

Tony Hoyle (11698) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065866)

This is the same company that states writing a program that uses mysql as the backend (even via odbc) is the same as distributing mysql... even though not a single byte of mysql code is distributed.

Hopefully Sun can bash some sanity into them.

Not a rash move (4, Informative)

Now15 (9715) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065404)

Sun has been thinking about this for a while
http://www.news.com/2100-7344_3-5562799.html [news.com]

Re:Not a rash move (4, Interesting)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065538)

Yeah, I remember the 'Sun DB' remark. I expect we'll see a Sun-branded version of MySQL (SunSQL? MySunDB? StarSQL? OpenSQL.org?). I also expect to see Sun packaging MySQL with OpenOffice.org, with smoother OOo Base integration.

Re:Not a rash move (1)

richlv (778496) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065792)

well, it would be weird if they just tucked together all the different acquisitions :)
though it isn't impossible - there's a relatively new thing, embedded mysql : http://www.mysql.com/products/embedded/ [mysql.com] .
frankly, i'd welcome such an option aside current java solution.

Re:Not a rash move (4, Interesting)

canuck57 (662392) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065566)

But I think most people thought Sun might push PostgreSQL [sun.com] which is a nice database. Not sure why Sun would purchase MySQL, seems like an expensive PR move. I for one have seen Sun's product support deteriorate over the years, and hope they keep support for MySQL independent of the main line support. Or maybe this plays into Oracle as Oracle had or has an alliance with Sun. Is this alliance strained?

Wow! (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22065406)

I hear they paid an astronomical amount for MySQL. In fairness though, the code is stellar. The developers must be beaming with pride. If I were a shareholder, it would certainly brighten up my day.

PS: Sorry.

Here is the PR (4, Informative)

kill-1 (36256) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065410)

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/080116/20080116005349.html?.v=1 [yahoo.com]

"As part of the transaction, Sun will pay approximately $800 million in cash in exchange for all MySQL stock and assume approximately $200 million in options."

Re:Here is the PR (2, Insightful)

icke (661710) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065462)

It would be interesting to see how this might stress their relationship with Oracle. So are we heading back to the days of a vertically integrated "stack"? I doubt it. More likely they will jettison the hardware business and concentrate on software.

Re:Here is the PR (4, Interesting)

MrKaos (858439) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065652)

For sure, The big guys (IBM, Sun, Oracle, Microsoft) are starting to look the same, with only Microsoft not playing with Open Source something. Could be interesting days ahead, it really looks like business models are starting to reshape themselves as they try to squeeze more dollars out of each account and/or IBM/Sun/Oracle eyeing over how much profit they could squeeze out of the demise of Microsoft's market share in the business sector.

Perhaps Sun will be playing around with open sourcing some more of their hardware as a pseudo way of moving away from hardware, without actually losing all their hardware aquisitions.

But it is interesting to see how open source as a business model is evolving by allowing competitors to leverage off each other and still compete. Maybe what we are looking at is the "horizontalisation" of the market, I note that with speculation about an open sourcing of DB2 and Oracle databases, Microsoft's position in the market looks more and more isolated every day.

Re:Here is the PR (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22065806)

Are you kidding? Sun gives most of its software away (Java, Solaris). It makes most money on hardware, then service contracts. It makes some pretty impressive datacenter computers, the power/cooling savings alone make them better than Dell Poweredges.

Yes! (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22065418)

I've been waiting SOO long for OpenJySQL 19!

Re:Yes! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22065686)

"I've been waiting SOO long for OpenJySQL 19!"

What calendar is that?
According to the Gregorian_calendar [wikipedia.org] today is Jan 16.

Great news (0)

KiloByte (825081) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065430)

Well, this could be something to breath life into MySQL which seemed to be in dire straits recently. After Oracle's low blows removed both of transactional engines, it looks like everyone is abandoning MySQL for Postgres.

Re:Great news (3, Interesting)

numbski (515011) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065556)

Could you fill us in? What low blows, and what transactional engines were removed? (Not being stupid, I'm just ignorant to what you're referring to...)

Re:Great news (5, Informative)

Too Much Noise (755847) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065650)

Oracle bought both InnoDB and BerkeleyDB. Those still happen to be two of the better engine options of MySQL.

Re:Great news (1)

glwtta (532858) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065716)

Didn't Oracle buy InnoDB two years ago, or so? I'm pretty sure they were still distributing it under GPL - did something new happen?

Not sure if anyone ever actually used the BDB backend, but it's definitely still distributed under Sleepycat's Free license.

Re:Great news (1)

canuck57 (662392) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065662)

Well, this could be something to breath life into MySQL which seemed to be in dire straits recently. After Oracle's low blows removed both of transactional engines, it looks like everyone is abandoning MySQL for Postgres.

There was no doubt what Oracle did was predatory, but if MySQL didn't use commercial InnoBase [innodb.com] component they would not have had any issues.

Lets hope many contributors and users dump MySQL and go to PostgreSQL [postgresql.org] . I have used PostgreSQL, MySQL, and Oracle. I often thought PostgreSQL was underrated and suspect those switching will be happy.

Re:Great news (1)

cheater512 (783349) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065876)

I've never found the need to use anything other than MySQL.

I dont need any fancy features but I do need speed.
For that MySQL fits the bill perfectly and Postgre not quite so.

There isnt any real reason that I know of for me to switch although if there was one I probably would.

What the???? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22065434)

This is just plain crazy.

Only one question (3, Insightful)

pieterh (196118) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065444)

Will it blend?

Not that I distrust Sun's motives when it comes to free software. I mean they did a stellar job on OpenOffice.org, didn't they?

Re:Only one question (1)

clem (5683) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065950)

I sense sarcasm, but I fail to see any reason for it that's self-evident. What problems have you been having with OpenOffice.org?

Great news!! (2, Interesting)

Slashidiot (1179447) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065448)

... I think. Are these great news? It's hard to know in which direction will big companies move. But if Sun keeps it's current track, I would say these are great news.

Re:Great news!! (2, Insightful)

b100dian (771163) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065874)

I think it's long-term bye-bye LAMP, since Sun may "empower" MySQL with Java stored procedures, may obfuscate the documentation(like Oracle does), or remove the transactions altogether and replace them with soft ones (JTA),... or anything you can expect (if you've seen a Java programmer using 1% of databases' features..)

Headline is misleading (0, Interesting)

free_agent_777 (717782) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065456)

The article clearly states that Sun is PLANNING on acquiring MySQL - they haven't bought them yet...

Why did they buy it? (5, Funny)

LiquidCoooled (634315) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065460)

Didn't they know they could just download it and run without paying?

Rewrite in Java (-1, Troll)

filbranden (1168407) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065472)

Damn it!

Now they will rewrite it in Java. It will no longer be the fastest database engine, after the rewrite, it will certainly be the slowest.

;-)

Re:Rewrite in Java (1)

glwtta (532858) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065628)

Seemed to work out pretty well when Oracle did it with BerkeleyDB JE.

Re:Rewrite in Java (1)

cbrocious (764766) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065704)

MySQL is the fastest DB engine... ?

Re:Rewrite in Java (4, Funny)

Grey_14 (570901) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065864)

Sure, like /dev/null is the fastest place to write backups to.

What happens now with Oracle and PostgtreSQL? (5, Interesting)

IYagami (136831) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065474)

Right now Sun supports PostgreSQL on Solaris (http://www.sun.com/software/products/postgresql/index.jsp) and Oracle is one of the main applications used in Solaris.

I think this is a move to sell support to their customers, like asking: "Do you need an Oracle Database?"
- If the answer is "YES", then we will sell you our servers and OS support
- If the answer is "NO", then we will sell you our servers and OS support AND MySQL / PostgreSQL support

There is a very good entry on a Sun blog about the cost of propietary databases and the "commodization" of this market:
http://blogs.sun.com/jkshah/entry/cost_of_proprietary_database [sun.com]

Re:What happens now with Oracle and PostgtreSQL? (1)

Ed Avis (5917) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065708)

Yes, I would have expected them to buy EnterpriseDB [enterprisedb.com] which is an Oracle clone built on Postgres.

So why would SUN buy MYSQL - discussion! (4, Interesting)

KeyserDK (301544) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065500)

Read the subject.
I thought SUN was currently bundling postgresql guess that wasn't good enough...
So up for discussion why buy mysql?

  * Well you can't buy postgresql.....(Who to buy?)
  * Wanting to hurt redhat
  * You get ownership of the code (Since mysql has)

The "hurting redhat" is more for journalists "lets find a conflict thinking" ...
What else are the reasons?

Re:So why would SUN buy MYSQL - discussion! (4, Informative)

theskipper (461997) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065772)

Ulterior motives aside, looking at it from the marketing perspective it presents a nice unified package for the big boys. On the golf course the sales drones will have clear tit-for-tat competition with MS's offerings.

From the official blog [sun.com] :

So why is this important for the internet? Until now, no platform vendor has assembled all the core elements of a completely open source operating system for the internet. No company has been able to deliver a comprehensive alternative to the leading proprietary OS. With this acquisition, we will have done just that - positioned Sun at the center of the web, as the definitive provider of high performance platforms for the web economy. For startups and web 2.0 companies, to government agencies and traditional enterprises. This creates enormous potential for Sun, for the global free software community, and for our partners and customers across the globe. There's opportunity everywhere.

Hopefully (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22065504)

Hopefully they will make PostgreSQL the default database engine and just add a MySQL legacy layer on top of it. Sun already has great PostgreSQL support, so it's not such a strange suggestion. Maybe that way MySQL will get ACID support this century.

Digg it (-1, Flamebait)

Now15 (9715) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065506)

Re:Digg it (1)

TheNinjaroach (878876) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065614)

No.

Re:Digg it (1)

theskipper (461997) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065852)

"Don't digg me, bro." --Slashdot

Stars are into OS? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22065524)

Holy crap! The Sun has bought MySQL? I didn't realize astrological entities were into open source. :|

Jonathan Schwartz's Blog (5, Informative)

sucker_muts (776572) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065540)

This is quite interesting news! Check out what Jonathan Schwartz has to say about this:

http://blogs.sun.com/jonathan/ [sun.com]

Oh Shit! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22065568)

This will not end well.

It would make MySQL easier to deploy... (5, Insightful)

hughk (248126) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065578)

I have worked at a lot of big banks. Open Source has been slowly finding its way in, but it is incredibly difficult to deploy an open source database like MySQL or Postgres. The banks says they want safety and security - and you answer that your database isn't enterprise critical so why pay for Oracle? Management then says, ah well, how about MS SQL Server....

Re:It would make MySQL easier to deploy... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22065698)

Banks have never been too reticent about spending their (ie your) money - so why would they even think of running open source.

The problem you have is getting justification for it in the first place, but once you've done that you get whatever you want, money no object.

Re:It would make MySQL easier to deploy... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22065970)

To which the correct answer is "lower TCO", if you want to get management buy-in. Find some figures that support you - I'm sure there are plenty around. While "nobody ever got fired for buying IBM" is generally a good mantra, "nobody ever got fired for saving the company money" is an even surer bet. Particularly if the numbers involved are substantial.

Emotional Reaction (1)

Abuzar (732558) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065604)

the immediate reaction upon hearing the news may be a mixture of various feelings, including excitement, pride, disbelief and satisfaction, but also anxiety.
Geeeeeez
Dude, gimme a break. It's only a database!

OpenOffice (3, Informative)

XB-70 (812342) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065616)

Base in OpenOffice has always been a disappointment - sadly sidelined as an 'afterthought', base lurches along..

Enter MySQL - combine it with OpenOffice and you finally have a real, integrated database that MS Office can't match. All we need now is a RAD front end for the consumer...

RAD frontend? (1)

Connie_Lingus (317691) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065752)

ive been using Navicat for my mySql frontend and while its not perfect at least it doesn't suck...

Re:OpenOffice (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22065754)

yeah, a cool new UI would hit the spot. Something sexy, easy to use, without endless dropdown menus. Call it the Rosette

Dificult to say... (5, Interesting)

mlwmohawk (801821) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065654)

As a long term PostgreSQL proponent, I'm not sure this is good news or bad. Many of the software stacks in open source, regrettably, use only MySQL. This makes it hard for PostgreSQL at times, but it puts the "owners" of MySQL in an excellent position to help some projects while ignoring others.

Sun owns Java. Sun will soon own MySQL. If you have a Tomcat/J2EE environment running open source, you will soon be having to deal with a single vendor with control over your environment, because most systems only give lip service to PostgreSQL but fully support MySQL. Expect the support bills to go up.

On to RedHat and IBM, I think it is time for them to start funding the PostgreSQL project for real. Setup a more corporate entity to guide it and REALLY compensate the guys like Tom, Bruce, et. al. for so much hard work, which IMHO is above and beyond a standard pay check.

Oracle in Java (4, Interesting)

wikinerd (809585) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065658)

This means that now more people may prefer to use MySQL rather than Oracle with Java, as they will see it as the most "compatible" database to be used within Java.

what about postgres (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22065664)

I have been a die hard postgres user for about 3 years and this news scares the crap out of me. Sun has been using postgres as a backend option for Solaris log functionality and they contribute to the project regularly. My fear is that postgres will be discarded in favor of the shiny new toy

Re:what about postgres (1)

Shados (741919) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065926)

Postgres is already maintained by third party companies and such... if it was to be bought, a -few- forks would probably still live on. Though, MySQL's copyright was assigned to a single company of its own...is Postgres the same? I'd guess it would be different.

RIP MySQL (-1, Flamebait)

JMac_978 (1221012) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065684)

Goodbye old friend...Sun will ruin you just like everything else they try to acquire or release.

RIP? Isn't that kinda old tech? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22065750)

I don't understand. You're saying Sun is going to design a new MySQL engine based on the RIP protocol [wikipedia.org] ? What a strange move indeed...

Aaah, crap... (1)

jaxtherat (1165473) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065696)

There goes another independent and relatively good quality FOSS product. Extra managementy foo and "vision" can only bollocks up the whole show :/ Sigh

Wait! (1)

Nephrite (82592) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065784)

TFA says: Sun Microsystems announced plans to acquire MySQL AB.. Not bought yet.

A surprising move (2, Interesting)

downix (84795) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065786)

When I talked to some Solaris guys about MySQL, I had nothing but grief from them about it. They kept hyping up postgresql. Now I wonder if I log into that forum now if they shall change their tunes any.

It's a scam! (0, Troll)

pain (18144) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065848)

Hey Sun, don't fall for this scam. It doesn't even support full outer joins.

Licensing (2, Insightful)

sribe (304414) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065856)

Wow, MySQL owned by a company that doesn't lie about the GPL! This is welcome news!

Another sale this morning - BEA to Oracle (3, Insightful)

(H)elix1 (231155) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065862)

Short version - Oracle offered 19.23 or so, and BEA said yes this morning. Big impact on a lot of Java EE developers out there.

Great news (5, Funny)

Lisandro (799651) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065916)

I can't wait for them to rewrite it in Java!

Holy sh!^ (1)

Bright Apollo (988736) | more than 6 years ago | (#22065968)

The most anticipated IPO of 2008 becomes a non-issue.

So... do we buy Sun stock now? Do we wait until Sun screws it up, then spins it off for the IPO?

It's like calling off the election this year. Well, not really...

-BA

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