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The Video Game Industry Goes Political

samzenpus posted more than 6 years ago | from the president-diablo dept.

The Almighty Buck 187

An anonymous reader writes "The video game industry is finally forming a PAC by the end of March to get some political clout. A story in The New York Times yesterday reports that the video game industry has finally woken up and realized that in order to stay strong going forward, it can't rely on 13-year-old pimple-faced kids to promote its agenda."

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yep, thats right (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22076890)

video games are for lonely fags.

Re:yep, thats right (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22077176)

Heres pplz discussing about games so cant stop my self to say a industry name online game builders. Online game builders are also generating games and satisfying thier clients by there great work.

Verticity

Re:yep, thats right (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22077586)

Get back to me once they can spell.

screw myminicity (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22076898)

Ok, it's done, I'm fed up.

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I'm a regular visitor to slashdot and since a couple of weeks a bunch of jerks have been placing cloaked links to 'myminicity.com' in just about every story.

Myminicity.com is complicit in this because they actively encourage users to send traffic to those links in order to boost their status in the system.

To give the myminicity.com jackasses a run for their money I've come up with a very simple plan.

Fight fire with fire.

Support the official Slashdot mymincity page:

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That's right! Post this link in your blogs, on slashdot articles, everywhere you can. We badly need links to /tra, /ind, /sec, /env because are population is bleeding away.

Together, people, we can beat them at their own game!

Technically this is probably illegal, but call me reckless. As I said, I'm pissed off.

Re:screw myminicity (1)

schnikies79 (788746) | more than 6 years ago | (#22076960)

How is this going to solve anything? I'm all about (internet) vigilante justice and hate mymycity as much as the next guy, but doesn't this just do the same thing as the other trolls?

Or maybe I have been duped by another mymycity troll...

Re:screw myminicity (1)

Cassius Corodes (1084513) | more than 6 years ago | (#22077212)

It's unfortunately the latter my friend.

Re:screw myminicity (1)

cp.tar (871488) | more than 6 years ago | (#22078404)

It's unfortunately the latter my friend.

Especially since I, for one, had seen no mmc links for several days now.

But I guess they started again. And adopted the words of some Slashdotter who started the screwmmc page.

Ah, well.

What? (5, Funny)

LeoDavinci578 (795523) | more than 6 years ago | (#22076902)

it can't rely on 13-year-old pimple-faced kids to promote its agenda
I thought I was doing a pretty damn good job you insensitive clod!

Re:What? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22079012)

it can't rely on 13-year-old pimple-faced kids to promote its agenda
I thought I was doing a pretty damn good job you insensitive clod!
This is Slashdot, not digg you insensitive clod!

Why not state it plainly? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22076934)

They've decided to form an organization to pool resources and pay off politicians.

Re:Why not state it plainly? (2, Funny)

EonBlueApocalypse (1029220) | more than 6 years ago | (#22077004)

Since I cant see paying off politicians going away any time soon, is it possible for average citizens to organize and do the same?

Re:Why not state it plainly? (2, Funny)

riseoftheindividual (1214958) | more than 6 years ago | (#22077034)

We tried that with political parties, and, well, see my sig.

Re:Why not state it plainly? (1)

davester666 (731373) | more than 6 years ago | (#22077442)

Well, the political parties have half of it down.

They do welcome your contributions.

Now, as for taking directions from you...they're still working on that [or perhaps more likely, making it seem like they are].

Why not state it plainly?-PACs are people too. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22077036)

You mean like Greenpeace and NOW?

Re:Why not state it plainly? (1)

tsa (15680) | more than 6 years ago | (#22077578)

Indeed. Democracy in action. Bribery is legal in America.

Re:Why not state it plainly? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22077684)

It's the best governemnt money can buy, you insensitive clod.

Re:Why not state it plainly? (1)

Ours (596171) | more than 6 years ago | (#22078582)

If only it was legal only in America :-(. In Europe you'll find the lobbies strong and well fed. Keeping politician pockets fat and corporations happy. I think democracy would be better off without ANY lobbies.

Re:Why not state it plainly? (5, Funny)

Melbourne Pete (1204418) | more than 6 years ago | (#22077998)

They've decided to form an organization to pool resources and pay off politicians.
Funny, I always used to think this (corporate lobbying) was a bad thing. But now that it's for something I care about, I'm all for it!

Re:Why not state it plainly? (2, Insightful)

domatic (1128127) | more than 6 years ago | (#22079252)

It's like hiring a lawyer. Nobody likes lawyers but you need their services occasionally.

MAFIAA again (5, Insightful)

BESTouff (531293) | more than 6 years ago | (#22078454)

I wonder how gamers think it will fare better than the MPAA and RIAA. This association will promote antipiracy laws, outlaw P2P and favor big editors. Mark my works.

Re:MAFIAA again (5, Funny)

High Hat (618572) | more than 6 years ago | (#22079056)

I wonder how gamers think it will fare better than the MPAA and RIAA. This association will promote antipiracy laws, outlaw P2P and favor big editors. Mark my works.
Like Emacs? Right, that's one hell of a video game...

Re:Why not state it plainly? (4, Insightful)

Bazar (778572) | more than 6 years ago | (#22079116)

I could hardly believe what i read

We will be writing checks to campaigns by the end of this quarter," Mr. Gallagher said. "This is an important step in the political maturation process of the industry that we are ready to take now. This is about identifying and supporting champions for the game industry on Capitol Hill so that they support us.
I personally cannot understand why companies are allowed to give political donations. It doesn't make sense, because the net result is that it leads to bribing political orgiziations for their own agenda

I don't expect it to ever change anytime soon however. What politician would bite the hand that feeds them.

Great! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22076936)

Now videogame companies can join the big leagues and buy politicians and legislation just like the big corporations! I wonder how long the gamer crowd will make excuses for them before they realize that power corrupts...

Careful! (5, Funny)

Tr3vin (1220548) | more than 6 years ago | (#22076966)

Make sure that the supply of invincibility stars and 1-up mushrooms doesn't fall into the wrong hands...

Conflicts (5, Insightful)

sqrt(2) (786011) | more than 6 years ago | (#22076968)

On the one hand, I hate the idea of PACs, on the other hand it's for an interest I support and is currently underrepresented. On the third hand it's not really that important compared to things like (ending) The Global War on Terror TM and the economy. I guess PACs are just part of the current system, standing on principle and thinking that money shouldn't have a say in political decisions is far too wishful even for me. Playing within the system might be the best way to get it changed at this point.

Looking at the entities behind this PAC--"Electronic Arts, Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo"--I doubt they're going to be fighting for the rights of gamers so much as the rights of game producing corporations. So issues that are important to ME (less censorship, rating restrictions, not using games as a scapegoat for school shootings) might take backseat to interests that are important to the industry from a business stand point (DRM/copy protection, criminalizing mod-chips, less regulation, certain taxes). That's the whole point of a PAC though I suppose, and what's good for the industry is good for people who play games in that more games can be made. In theory at least. I'd be happier if EA made less games, or stopped entirely.

Re:Conflicts (1)

Steauengeglase (512315) | more than 6 years ago | (#22077044)

I can't help but agree. When you let the big boys play ball you have to play the game by their rules and I really can't see a lot of good coming out of that. As a gamer, I have no interest in becoming someone's potential voter product.

Re:Conflicts (5, Insightful)

DarthJohn (1160097) | more than 6 years ago | (#22077082)

Don't you think that EA et al. would like the politicians to stop telling their potential customers that their products will turn their children into mindless killers?

I agree that there are likely to be bad things that come from this, mod chip prohibition and such. There are also likely to be good things, like less censorship, or at least less sensationalized crusading for the "think of the childrens" b.s.

Re:Conflicts (3, Interesting)

westlake (615356) | more than 6 years ago | (#22078750)

Don't you think that EA et al. would like the politicians to stop telling their potential customers that their products will turn their children into mindless killers?

Quickly, now.

Name one - just one - developer whose name doesn't begin with the letter R that makes headlines for the violence of its video games. Whose PR trumpets the casts the player in the role of the psycho killer. The use of the Wii controller to mime torture porn kills. F.E.A.R, The Orange Box, Bioshock. These games and a hundred others enter the market to critical and popular acclaim and nary a whisper of complaint. You take Rockstar out of the picture and most of the problems disappear.

To take an example from television - and from Fox, of all networks: "The Sarah Conner Chronicles" has all the patented shock and thrills of the Terminator franchise. In a sense, the story begins with a shootout in a high school classroom. But there is a lot of fun to be had here too. You get to save Summer Glau by tossing her out of a twelve-story window. Fun is something we haven't seen much of in sci-fi since Battlestar Galactica turned so bleak.

Conflicts-Principals. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22077234)

"That's the whole point of a PAC though I suppose, and what's good for the industry is good for people who play games in that more games can be made. In theory at least. I'd be happier if EA made less games, or stopped entirely."

Or you can start your own company and be part of the solution. Or you can complain on slashdot and we all know how effective that is. PACs as in power equals numbers plus opinions means change. If it's good enough to bring the RIAA,MPAA, etc, etc [slashdot.org] down, then it's good enough for us.

"I guess PACs are just part of the current system, standing on principle and thinking that money shouldn't have a say in political decisions is far too wishful even for me."

Why? Money influences every other decision in our lives, from what car we drive to what jobs we work? Even the women we date. Why should politics run on principle when all the rest doesn't?

Re:Conflicts-Principals. (4, Informative)

pipatron (966506) | more than 6 years ago | (#22077620)

what's good for the industry is good for people who play games in that more games can be made

Yes, because bribing politicians for hand-picked regulations instead of making competitive products is always better... or what?

Game companies doesn't necessarily want to create more games, they want money. If they can get that by forcing people to pay more for less by limiting competition in the field, then forming an alliance like this is a good way to do it.

WTF, dude, you WANT the terrorists to win? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22077324)

it's not really that important compared to thing like (ending) The Global War on Terror
Okay, you could argue that's not what you intended, but then you say...

and the economy.
So, you want to end the economy? What do you propose then, Mr. Marx? Oh, and did you really think you'd get away with saying...

I just wish the terrorists would hurry up and cleanse this country of all its vice and sin
You slipped up, my friend, never should have written that. Any doubt that you supported the terrorists... poof. Out the window.

Go git 'im, Dubya!

Re:WTF, dude, you WANT the terrorists to win? (1)

Lord Nerevar (1184053) | more than 6 years ago | (#22077728)

To Anonymous Coward (with misdirected attentions towards terrorists),

I think that ending "The Global War on Terror" (more like "The Global War of Terror") is a valid point. Just because you disagree about someone's opinion of the American Government's policies, does not give you the right to claim they support terrorists. There are laws against defamation for a reason, and with America being so enthusiastic about rooting out terrorists, it might (slight chance) be dangerous.

When the person you were quoting said "and the economy", he wasn't talking about ending it, but saving it. When he used the word "ending", he was only referring to "The Global War of Terror".

I am sorry to any readers who do not like this, because it is irrelevant and off-topic. But I feel a need to reprimand people who write with such ignorance.

Yours truly,
Lord Nerevar.

Re:WTF, dude, you WANT the terrorists to win? (1)

mightyQuin (1021045) | more than 6 years ago | (#22079268)

I'm pretty sure AC was just being critical of parent post's grammar. Sheesh.

Re:WTF, dude, you WANT the terrorists to win? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22078212)

Suck twenty cocks you stupid conservative shit.

Re:Conflicts (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22077450)

No group of professionals meets except to conspire against the public at large.

-Mark Twain

Re:Conflicts (0, Offtopic)

Cal Paterson (881180) | more than 6 years ago | (#22078806)

Libertarianism : noun, an economic model for the justification of selfishness and abject greed.
Are you trying to be avant garde when you say that?

What're you actually trying to do is quickly get the boot in on libertarianism using the format of a two line slashdot signature. This is as inane as it sounds. You're trying to look clever and cynical, but you're failing, because all but the most stupid (yourself, by the looks of it) knows that philosophy cannot be debated in shouted slogans.

Re:Conflicts (1)

garett_spencley (193892) | more than 6 years ago | (#22079130)

(DRM/copy protection, criminalizing mod-chips, less regulation, certain taxes)

This is slightly off-topic but it might interest the /. crowd.

I recently bought a vintage / classic / retro 1981 arcade machine. Upon opening up the back I discovered an extremely thick manual book with instructions for doing everything you could imagine to the machine. It has full technical schematics for the PCBs and Monitor. Talks about replacing and modding components etc.

I was born in 1982 and in "my time" the back panel would have a huge warning about how just opening the panel would void the warranty etc. with a number to call if you need to pay a technician $500 / hour with a 3 hour minimum to come service it for you.

I've just gotten a huge glimpse of what "open hardware" is and why it's important. I was shocked and extremely delighted to find such an impressive manual. It's never happened to me before.

niggers (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22076986)

ron paul 2008

Re:niggers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22077514)

Ah, satire at its finest.

With a CAPTCHA of 'rustled'

No reason to go political! (1)

Fruity McGayGay (1005769) | more than 6 years ago | (#22077022)

The industry could easily win if they put a nigger bashing game on the shelf. Maybe something like a nigger version of WOW, naa that wouldn't work since all they would be doing is picking cotton and eating greens. Maybe a welfare version? The less you do, the more you get. Thats basically the life of niggers at the moment. How about a prego version? Female nigs are always knocked up. (who knows why though. no one wants to fuck the greasy fatty nigger women, would you?) I can't say what they should do, but a political party isn't it. It has to focus on the nigger.

I'm disgusted and ashamed by Slashdot these days. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22077106)

Seriously, what the hell is going on with Slashdot these days?

Why has parent post not been modded immediately to +5? Are we truly living in a day and age where a man can't honestly speak his mind about niggers and command the attention of the community?

Slashdot seems to be in steady decline.

Re:I'm disgusted and ashamed by Slashdot these day (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22077342)

if there was a hell I'd tell you to go there but since there isn't- we much make yours on Earth a close approximation.

Video games are but one item... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22077066)

Well, step aside my friend
I've been doing it for years
I say, sit on down, open your eyes
And open up your ears

Say
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Put a bumblebee in your butt
Put a clock in your butt
Put a big rock in your butt
Put some fleas in your butt
Start to sneeze in your butt
Put a tin can in your butt
Put a little tiny man in your butt
Put a light in your butt
Make it bright in your butt
Put a TV in your butt
Put me in your butt
Everybody say

I, hey, that's, man, I ain't putting no trees in nobody's butt,
no bees in nobody's butt, putting nothing--
You must be out your mind, man,
y'all get paid for doing this?
Cause y'all gotta get some kind of money
Cause this don't sound like the kind of--
I'd rather golf, to be perfectly honest,
than put somethin in somebody's butt
to be truthful

Well step aside my friend and let me
show you how you do it
When big bad E just rock rock to it

Put a metal case in your butt
Put her face in your butt
Put a frown in your butt
Put a clown in your butt
Sit on down in your butt
Put a boat in your butt
Put a moat in your butt
Put a mink coat in your butt
Put everything in your butt
Just start to sing about your butt
Feels real good

"13 year old pimple faces" (4, Interesting)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 6 years ago | (#22077134)

That's exactly what's wrong with the industry. Or rather, people's views of the "users" of the industry's output.

Hands up. How many here are above 18? Eligible to drive, drink liquor and (most of all) vote? Ok, hands down again, I can't see the opposite wall anymore.

I think it's a good step. It's time the politicians see that it might not be a good idea to use games as the scapegoats anymore, because gamers vote. Computer games ain't for the 13 year olds anymore. Computer games aren't just for kids who don't matter because they can't vote. 20 years ago, computer games were a teenager pastime, today, more and more computer gamers are well above 18, many are interested in politics and many take their games, and their freedom to play the games they want, serious enough to consider it and the stance politicians take towards games important enough to have it influence their decision who to give their vote to.

There is a reason why politicians have no problem blaming every single thing that goes wrong with today's youths on games, but surprisingly few blame TV and movies. The reason is simple: TV and movies do have a political lobby.

While I'm not really a fan of political lobbying (it is so close to political bribing), it seems to be a necessity in today's political climate.

Re:"13 year old pimple faces" (2, Funny)

LeoDavinci578 (795523) | more than 6 years ago | (#22077272)

Once we get Mario elected to Congress we'll be a significant voting, until then I think most candidates will focus on "giving" healthcare or making us "secure".

Re:"13 year old pimple faces" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22077300)

Just curious, I'm assuming your not from the US? I'm eligible to drive and vote, but not to drink liquor.

Re:"13 year old pimple faces" (2, Interesting)

ilikepi314 (1217898) | more than 6 years ago | (#22077420)

That seems to be true of technology in general. It's new, not entirely understood by the general public, only the "kids" really use it a lot and the kids don't listen to us... perfect thing to scapegoat and sound like a hero for stopping! It's like the political equivalent of that statement (paraphrased) "Any sufficiently advanced technology seems like magic." ... I propose "Any misunderstood technology seems like the root of all of our problems."

Re:"13 year old pimple faces" (5, Insightful)

secretwhistle (1116881) | more than 6 years ago | (#22077426)

As a 33-year old gamer and father of two and 1/2 children (I have a step-daughter), I'm sick of politicians and other professional hand-wringers telling me how to raise my children.

I have two young boys (age 1 and age 3) who like to watch me play nearly any videogame I throw in (they're big fans of the Katamari series). Frankly, their perception of any violence or other supposed influences at this point is moot, considering their attention span is near zero at this age.

My 10-year old stepdaughter I tend to look out for more carefully. She watched a few hours of Bloodrayne and had nightmares so the horror games get played while she's at school. She likes to kill time playing any of the GTA series which I have no problem with. In fact, I usually have to kick her off the system because she's boring the shit out of me. She won't steal cars, hurt people, or open fire on unarmed civilians. She doesn't want the police to come after her and tends to wander the streets aimlessly on foot or joyride on top (yes, on the ROOF) of CPU vehicles.

I can take care of my children and control what I think they should view and participate in. I would rather keep it this way and somehow I think that a PAC, while helping get some pols on our side, will ultimately be a net loss for gamers. You cannot legislate personal responsibility.

Re:"13 year old pimple faces" (4, Funny)

Dr. Cody (554864) | more than 6 years ago | (#22077930)

I have two young boys (age 1 and age 3) who like to watch me play nearly any videogame I throw in (they're big fans of the Katamari series).

Jesus tits, it's people like you that enable the think-of-the-children advocates. By the time your kids grow up scientists will probably have found out that K.D. is the thalidomide of our generation [xkcd.com] .

Re:"13 year old pimple faces" (4, Insightful)

jay-be-em (664602) | more than 6 years ago | (#22077938)

No one is telling you what to let your kids play. No one is taking away your right to play any game out there and no one is taking away your responsibility. They're just saying your kid can't go out and buy any game -- if you want them playing GTA, then YOU buy it for them -- the responsibility lies clearly with you. Fortunately we legislate responsibility in that parents are legally responsible for their children.

Re: Legislation (2, Informative)

secretwhistle (1116881) | more than 6 years ago | (#22078094)

Fortunately we legislate responsibility in that parents are legally responsible for their children.

That the way it should be. However, more time and money is spent trying to ban games completely, edit content or hold game manufacturers responsible for society's ills. None of these lawmakers, parents and other "concerned" groups direct their attention towards the parents of those whose criminal actions have brought so much negative attention to the gaming community over the past several years.

Re: Legislation (2, Informative)

jay-be-em (664602) | more than 6 years ago | (#22078184)

From what I've seen there's a lot of push to have a legislated ratings system that's legally enforced (Hillary and Lieberman endorsed a measure to ban the selling of M rated games to minors). There have been a few single cases where people proposed complete bans of games. Chuck Schumer of NY, there have been a few other cases of trying to ban games that in any way glorify the killing of police officers, similar to the Body Count/Cop Killer case of the early 90s. These aren't going to succeed pretty clearly on the basis of the first amendment, as illustrated by the Body Count case -- in fact that never even reached the courts as it was voluntarily pulled from shelves by many retailers.

Anyway, I don't think the case for banning/editing/etc games is as strong as you say -- it's more that many parents and legislators are waking up to the fact that games aren't ms pac man and galaga anymore.

Re:"13 year old pimple faces" (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 6 years ago | (#22078414)

In theory, yes. But can you imagine what the next step will be after the ban on kids buying violent games doing jack to stop teen violence?

In case you didn't notice yet, our rights are being taken away piece by piece. It's the boiling-frog thing.

Re:"13 year old pimple faces" (1)

jay-be-em (664602) | more than 6 years ago | (#22078446)

Fortunately we have a constitution and amendments which prevent the government from slipping too far down the slippery slope. Having laws to prevent minors from accessing certain materials is not a pathway to all out banning of games or mandatory censorship of games -- it comes nowhere near touching the first amendment.

Restricting minors from being able to purchase certain things has nothing to do with our otherwise, agreed, eroding rights. Unless you're a teenager or currently wearing a tinfoil bodysuit.

Re:"13 year old pimple faces" (1)

moosesocks (264553) | more than 6 years ago | (#22078088)

I have two young boys (age 1 and age 3) who like to watch me play nearly any videogame I throw in (they're big fans of the Katamari series)


If what the video game-opponents are saying is true, and kids really do subconsciously model their behavior based upon what they see in games, your kids are going to have some hilarious tendencies [xkcd.com] when they're older.

Attention span (1)

Valdrax (32670) | more than 6 years ago | (#22078142)

I have two young boys (age 1 and age 3) who like to watch me play nearly any videogame I throw in (they're big fans of the Katamari series). Frankly, their perception of any violence or other supposed influences at this point is moot, considering their attention span is near zero at this age.

Ever think there might be a causal relationship behind that complete lack of an attention span?

Re:Attention span (4, Insightful)

vux984 (928602) | more than 6 years ago | (#22078270)

Ever think there might be a causal relationship behind that complete lack of an attention span?

How do you figure?

Your going to blame short attention spans on an industry accused of putting out games so addictive they compell mothers to neglect their children in order to obsessively play the game?

Re:Attention span (1)

Anne Thwacks (531696) | more than 6 years ago | (#22079144)

so addictive they compell mothers to neglect their children in order to obsessively play

Are computer games that addictive? Or are some people just crap at parenting?

I suspect this is a new version of "the devil made me do it!"

Re:Attention span (1)

secretwhistle (1116881) | more than 6 years ago | (#22078320)

Ever think there might be a causal relationship behind that complete lack of an attention span?

Nah, I'm still pretty much linking that with them being boys. And being 1 and 3.

Re:"13 year old pimple faces" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22078566)

"My 10-year old stepdaughter I tend to look out for more carefully. She watched a few hours of Bloodrayne and had nightmares..."

I know! I had nightmares from Bloodrayne too!

Wait... what do you mean few hours? I though it was only 92 minutes?

Re:"13 year old pimple faces" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22078738)

I blame the fact that you're involved with and raising your children. When I play Gears of War at 1am, I often have to mute screetching harpies pretending to be parentless pre-pubescent boys who hate homosexuals and love to learn about every aspect of smoking pot. Which is often the topic of discussion in occasionally exhaustive detail. Clearly not all parents suffer from the burden of such responsability. It's obvious their children are a horrible, empty, soul-sucking burdern deserving of tax breaks and better raised by wolves and failing them, consumer electronics. Since you're a few sigmas out from the mean perhaps you'd be willing to conceed that legislation shouldn't be confined to your narrow extreme no matter how successful. Because, it's clear to me that wolves and consumer electronics have one big thing in common, a lack of boundries. Who better to provide that than the wise ol' government under the guise of either a nanny-state or a theocracy? What about the parents that loath the very existance of their unwanted children? What of them Ward Cleaver? That's what I thought, those people deserve representation too.

Re:"13 year old pimple faces" (1)

smurgy (1126401) | more than 6 years ago | (#22077612)

Exactly. Going back to the recent post [slashdot.org] on first gaming experiences, a lot of us were found to have started out with pong and the like.

We therefore have a growing adult cohort of 'native' gamers whose interests deserve to be represented.

Now it's easy to look at political lobbying and see it as a simple dollars-for-votes machine; but it's far from it.

Any good PAC will create around it a body of political analysis to support its views, and at the end of the day political thought that can be translated into a coherent stance for a politician will find more takers.

Yes money talks, but without creating the language so that the politicians can pocket the money and be able to tell themselves (and their electorate) they're being good representatives is the key.

And let's face it - other political movements got started by people taking to the streets. Inspiring stuff. By contrast, nobody (not even Blizz) cares about 1000 naked level 1 gnomes crashing Ironforge on a roleplay server, [afkgamer.com] so it's a good thing if the gaming industry is recruiting some real political thinkers and activists to do that kind of work.

Re:"13 year old pimple faces" (2, Funny)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 6 years ago | (#22077658)

Eligible to drive, drink liquor and (most of all) vote?

How many plan to do all three at the same time in the next election?

Re:"13 year old pimple faces" (1)

DerekLyons (302214) | more than 6 years ago | (#22077744)

That's exactly what's wrong with the industry. Or rather, people's views of the "users" of the industry's output.
 
Hands up. How many here are above 18? Eligible to drive, drink liquor and (most of all) vote? Ok, hands down again, I can't see the opposite wall anymore.

Clue: Slashdot doesn't represent even a visible fraction of gamers.

But... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22077160)

My mom said my acne cleared up...!

Top 10 Gamer Facts (5, Informative)

SEGT (880610) | more than 6 years ago | (#22077372)

For those who are discussing the average age of a gamer (in the USA) in relation to this article, check out the top 10 facts and other stats the ESA has produced for the year 2006. http://www.theesa.com/facts/top_10_facts.php [theesa.com]

3. The average game player is 33 years old and has been playing games for 12 years.

Re:Top 10 Gamer Facts (-1, Troll)

jay-be-em (664602) | more than 6 years ago | (#22077902)

Coincidentally 33 also happens to be the average age of loser virgins living in their parents' basement browsing internet forums.

Next generation RIAA/MPAA (0)

vossman77 (300689) | more than 6 years ago | (#22077402)

How many years until they start to suing kids and grandmothers?

Re:Next generation RIAA/MPAA (1)

NathanBFH (558218) | more than 6 years ago | (#22077498)

Exactly my thoughts as well. A gaming industry PAC will eventually be just as (more?) concerned with copyright protection and IP laws as free speech laws. I understand why this is necessary for the game the industry, but I fear for the fruits of their lobbying and the likely collateral damage into non-gaming IP law. Frankly, I trust the courts to protect free speech and fight censorship a lot more than I trust a gaming industry lobby. Gaining a lobby who fights for free speech in games at the cost of more absurd IP laws doesn't sound like a very good trade to me (for a consumer).

So, good for the gaming industry, they need and are entitled to a lobby (obviously). But this isn't a win for consumers.

Re:Next generation RIAA/MPAA (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22077614)

Probably a couple years after they finally stomp out mod chips and emulators. :)

--
"My god they're remembering their gaming experience. FINE THAT PIRATE SCUM!"

Job Title? (4, Funny)

DeadboltX (751907) | more than 6 years ago | (#22077540)

Is someone who is in this PAC known as a PAC-man?

Re:Job Title? (1)

ilikepi314 (1217898) | more than 6 years ago | (#22077576)

Ah, so this political group isn't going to go anywhere, just in loops around the same old place as before. Oh well, I can still hope he'll get rid of the ghosts...

Re:Job Title? (OT whining) (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 6 years ago | (#22077636)

Crap, you stole my joke. I did a search for "pacman" to make sure it wasn't already taken, but that damned slash ruined my text search and dooms me to "redundant" mod. Oh, the humanity of the slash.

Warning: Bad Joke Ahead (0, Redundant)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 6 years ago | (#22077604)

The video game industry is finally forming a PAC by the end of March

Are they gonna call it PACman?
     

The time is ripe. (3, Informative)

briester (1031918) | more than 6 years ago | (#22077618)

Notice Hillary Clinton's nomination in New Hampshire? She's been an anti-video-game crusader from day one. The timing of this move may not be coincidental.

Re:The time is ripe. (2, Insightful)

jay-be-em (664602) | more than 6 years ago | (#22077922)

I'm curious -- how anti-videogame is Ms. Clinton? I've never seen her advocating anything like banning any games, she just seems to be for enforcing content/age restriction laws, similar to ones present in the movie industry which frankly nearly the entire populace agrees with and has no problem with.

Please correct me if I'm wrong. I definitely wouldn't support anyone who would propose banning games like GTA, but I have absolutely no problem with age restriction enforcement. If you want your kid to play GTA, just buy it for them. Simple.

Re:The time is ripe. (3, Interesting)

briester (1031918) | more than 6 years ago | (#22078004)

There's a difference between a private institution offering a rating, like the movie industry does, and the government enforcing one. If G rated movies suddenly appeared with odd content, we could *fire* the people who rated it. Not so with the government - it is necessarily above the law. We just need to recognize that and give it as little power as possible. Specifically, support characters like Obama (dem) or Ron Paul (rep) if video-games are an issue you care about. Hell, I think free-speech is something both sides of our silly little bi-partisanship can get behind.

Re:The time is ripe. (1)

jay-be-em (664602) | more than 6 years ago | (#22078040)

We could fire them? Who's we here?

I'm not seeing how this is a free speech issue. No one is preventing adults from purchasing any kind of game protected under the first amendment.

Re:The time is ripe. (5, Interesting)

Dunbal (464142) | more than 6 years ago | (#22078944)

she just seems to be for enforcing content/age restriction laws

      The game ratings set by the ESRB are voluntary. Just like the movie ratings by the MPAA are voluntary. No game "HAS" to be rated. In fact several games (and movies) are released as "NR" (not rated). Hillary of course feels that government should ENFORCE ratings systems.

      Oh and as for the "age restriction" - yes, there is a HUGE difference between a 17 year old playing a violent video game and an 18 year old playing the same violent video game... All this politics came out because of the "hot coffee" mod for GTA... a game released with a 17+ rating. Now at 17 you are old enough to enlist and go kill Iraqis oh sorry "insurgents", but apparently heaven forbid you witness some bad attempt at video porn (no actual oral-gential contact is visible). Big fucking deal.

      Enough of the "nanny state" philosophy. It's up to parents, not the government, to regulate what their children can and can't play. And guess what - violent crime and rape statistics are at an all time low since the mid/late 90's and the popularity of home computers/internet/gaming systems.

How about a Gamer's Bill Of Rights? (5, Insightful)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 6 years ago | (#22077648)

Article 1: The X-Axis and Y-Axis shall always be independently invertible. This inversion shall carry through into any minigames. Failure to do so earns the developers a punch in the balls.

Article 2: There shall be *copious* save points in RPGs always close to the player. Note: 45 minutes away across the Chasm Of Despair and on the other side of Mount Doom is not "close". Failure to do so earns the developers a punch in the balls, and another one 30 minutes later.

Article 3: Games should not be subject to bad voice acting. There's thousands of decent local and community actors across the land who'd probably love the experience of doing some voice work. Failure to do so earns the developers a punch in the balls. Developers who claim it was "intentionally bad" get second, harder punch.

Article 4: The industry is too advanced to still inflict bad camera angles on gamers. Developers who release a game with bad cameras face multiple ball punches from bad angles when they least expect it.

Article 5: Any game developers who think it's wonderfully dramatic to strip my FPS character of all his or her carefully rationed weapons and ammo in the middle of the game will face summary execution.

Article 6: If the player fails to get past a tricky part in 25 tries, give him the change a fucking variable somewhere, would you? Is it THAT hard to adapt things to a player's skill? Make his bullets a little stronger for a while or something. Sheesh. Oh yeah, ball punches.

And so on.

Re:How about a Gamer's Bill Of Rights? (1)

RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) | more than 6 years ago | (#22077878)

Article 3: Games should not be subject to bad voice acting. There's thousands of decent local and community actors across the land who'd probably love the experience of doing some voice work. Failure to do so earns the developers a punch in the balls. Developers who claim it was "intentionally bad" get second, harder punch.
It worked for Katamari Damashii.

Re:How about a Gamer's Bill Of Rights? (5, Funny)

secretwhistle (1116881) | more than 6 years ago | (#22077926)

Article 2: There shall be *copious* save points in RPGs always close to the player. Note: 45 minutes away across the Chasm Of Despair and on the other side of Mount Doom is not "close". Failure to do so earns the developers a punch in the balls, and another one 30 minutes later.


Make sure the ball-punching is long and unskippable.

Re:How about a Gamer's Bill Of Rights? (3, Funny)

jimicus (737525) | more than 6 years ago | (#22078864)

Well, if nothing else such a proposal would probably work wonders for the proportion of men:women in the games industry.

Generation G you say (0, Troll)

Eirenarch (1099517) | more than 6 years ago | (#22078038)

Let's face it: the old fools who have no idea what video gaming is all about are dying off by the minute and those people who actually value video games because they recognize the entertainment valued provided by them, should be around for quite a while to carry that torch.
HAHA! We're coming for you obsolete clowns.

hmm (2, Insightful)

culprt (972984) | more than 6 years ago | (#22078602)

Add games industry to the list of things that they've screwed up by mixing it with politics.

This is a useful counter-narrative (1)

stupidpuppy (955515) | more than 6 years ago | (#22078720)

Because a lot of people still claim that Washington (and all politicians therein) are ordered around by giant corporations.

Whereas we can see the opposite thing happen with new industries : they think they can get by without dedicate lobbying and then suddenly get screwed (or realize that they are close to getting screwed) and only at that point do they start to make themselves known politically.

Of course, once the danger has passed they'll ask for (and often get) massive subsidies and pork that we all pay for, which certainly does suck.

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