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Sperm Made From Female Bone Marrow, Men Obsolete?

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 6 years ago | from the what-some-women-have-been-saying-for-years dept.

Biotech 459

Shaitan Apistos writes "British scientists have discovered a way to turn female bone marrow into sperm, allowing women to reproduce without the need of male companionship. All children born of this method would be female, due the lack Y chromosomes, and there is high chance of birth defects. Eggs also can be created from male bone marrow, but men looking to reproduce would still need to find a surrogate mother to handle the gestation period. I'd like to take a moment to welcome our new amazonian overlords and remind them that men are still very good at mowing lawns and fixing cars."

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459 comments

dont forget (5, Funny)

User 956 (568564) | more than 6 years ago | (#22271838)

I'd like to take a moment to welcome our new amazonian overlords and remind them that men are still very good at mowing lawns and fixing cars.

Also, SNOO SNOO!

Re:dont forget (1)

homey of my owney (975234) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272252)

and there is high chance of birth defects.
Not needed... Well, I suppose it depends where you think the race is headed.

well (1)

g4b (956118) | more than 6 years ago | (#22271842)

hello missis "i am my own mother"

We discussed males and females, so.... (3, Funny)

DanMelks (1108493) | more than 6 years ago | (#22271846)

...so where do transsexuals fit in here?

Re:We discussed males and females, so.... (1)

g4b (956118) | more than 6 years ago | (#22271874)

trans-gender-men could make eggs out of their bone marrow
or sperm.
confusing.

More seriously... (5, Funny)

DrYak (748999) | more than 6 years ago | (#22271928)

This could be genuine good news for :
- Homosexual couples (2 lesbians, or 2 gay men + 1 surrogate mother)
- Couples where 1 is trans gender (and lack the correct type of gonads)
One day such technology would enable both parents in such couples to be the biological parents.

Now back to humour :
Yes, we *DO* welcome our new Amazon overlords.
Specially since, if as a consequence of this the percentage of women increases in the general population, this new girls:boys ratio (men are rare) when added to eons-old instinct (sex drive) will finally increases the chances for the average /. to get laid.

Re:More seriously... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22272032)

Have you _SEEN_ the average /.er? It's more likely that that's the reason why women would seek this.

Re:More seriously... (2, Funny)

turgid (580780) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272186)

Have you smelled the average /.er? Nope, regular guys will just get more.

Re:We discussed males and females, so.... (5, Funny)

tacocat (527354) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272262)

I guess after being told to "Go Fuck Yourself" for so many years, these scientists finally found a way to do it.

There will be some interesting debates raging about this one for a long time. I'm of the opinion that on the whole, we are better off with the process of gene mixing than practicing self-eugenics.

Re:We discussed males and females, so.... (1)

Dr. Cody (554864) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272436)

They're a valuable market segment-- they buy and spend for two . [youtube.com]

Too bad.... (-1, Troll)

Izabael_DaJinn (1231856) | more than 6 years ago | (#22271852)

I'll still need someone to take out the garbage. Still, it's a step in the right direction to completely obviating the more superfluous sex.

Re:Too bad.... (2, Insightful)

CommunistHamster (949406) | more than 6 years ago | (#22271912)

What happens when we have the technology to grow babies from a sperm + egg to birth without the use of a female host? Will girls be obsolete then, as well as men?

Re:Too bad.... (5, Funny)

Znork (31774) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272028)

If men had been the ones carrying the babies I'd betcha good money that we'd have had artificial wombs perfected in the 1930's.

Re:Too bad.... (2, Funny)

TapeCutter (624760) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272080)

Who says we didn't ;)

Re:Too bad.... (4, Funny)

Nullav (1053766) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272094)

That, or babies would be a lot...thinner. (Damn, just thinking about it hurts.)

Re:Too bad.... (4, Insightful)

kestasjk (933987) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272244)

Surprise surprise, a male (Karim Nayernia) invented the technique. I guess that's how superfluous we are?

But hey it's alright to be sexist; you're female.

Re:Too bad.... (1)

Nocturnal Deviant (974688) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272340)

nice homepage.....lol you know your a real /.er when you have a pink homepage full of pictures of women....though on a "superfluous" side note, the day i took out your trash, i would also be singing "its a bird, its a plane, its flying pigs" at the top of my lungs over and over

In other news... (4, Funny)

Tsar (536185) | more than 6 years ago | (#22271868)

British scientists have discovered a way to move around by walking, making wheeled transportation obsolete. All trips made with this method would be short or very slow due the lack of speed, and there is high chance of being late. I'd like to take a moment to welcome our new ambling overlords and remind them that airplanes are still pretty handy for the really long trips.

Re:In other news... (2, Insightful)

znode (647753) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272002)

No funny tag, and the source is a tabloid?

Where is the... anything??

New Porn In The Making (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22271872)

A complete female based society all genetically created and enhanced. And no men? Sounds like a porn title seriously. Instead of "Where the men aren't" we could simply drop 'Where'.

Of course men not obsolete just yet (5, Interesting)

syousef (465911) | more than 6 years ago | (#22271890)

From a sexual point of view, most women are still part conditioned and part pre-programmed to want male ahem companionship. (I could put this much more crudely but I won't). Without these urges our species wouldn't exist. You can't suddenly replace that in a generation. If you had many generations that could survive just as well (ie elliminate high birth defects etc) perhaps you'd see human sex drive die off. I like sex, so let's hope not.

From a social and evolutionary point of view, while men and women can replace each other for most things it is still true that the male tends to be physically bigger and buliker, and prefer science and math while women tend to be smaller and have more interests in social bonds, fashion and nest-making. We'd need to change both society and biology to change that. (Note that I'm not saying a man can't be a splendid nest-maker or that a woman can't do heavy work, or even that this should be discouraged - nothing sexier than a woman with a brain, or one that can kick arse - I'm just stating what the trend is currently and that it takes time to change such trends.)

So while a few scornful women may wish to bomb men out of existence but we ain't going anywhere anytime soon. Let's all be friends, instead.

Re:Of course men not obsolete just yet (5, Insightful)

damburger (981828) | more than 6 years ago | (#22271914)

But many women like the, ahem, companionship of other women. If this has a genetic basis (almost certain) then the genetic offspring of two such women is very likely to feel the same way. A female-only subculture is almost certainly on the way.

The depressing thing is, as a man I can't really think of why we should be allowed to stick around.

Re:Of course men not obsolete just yet (3, Interesting)

Jamu (852752) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272034)

Doesn't this also allow women to reproduce without the need of female companionship? Just make sperm from your own marrow and use this to fertilise your own eggs. Of course the daughter would then be a clone of the mother. But she would only inherit birth defeats, not engender new ones.

Re:Of course men not obsolete just yet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22272188)

Women being able to clone themselves is a major plot point of the interesting, if overly-long, David Brin novel "Glory Season"

Re:Of course men not obsolete just yet (1)

TheThiefMaster (992038) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272278)

It wouldn't be a clone of the mother, as genes that existed in the mother may not be in the offspring, and genes that there was only one of in the mother could have 2 in the offspring.

Re:Of course men not obsolete just yet (1)

warrax_666 (144623) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272054)

If this [homosexuality] has a genetic basis (almost certain)

(empahsis mine)
Are there any actual properly controlled studies on this? I'm not being facetious, I'm geniuinely interested.

Re:Of course men not obsolete just yet (4, Interesting)

Tony Hoyle (11698) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272120)

They've pretty much proven that both gender and sexual preference are hardwired into the brain (lots of studies, some quite good, one or two quite unethical (I read a story about one where they cut a babies penis off at birth and raised him as a girl.. of course as soon as he got the chance he reverted to being male - he 'knew' he was male despite nobody ever telling him)).

If course there's two ways that a 'reverse' preference could happen... either it's genetic, or something happens during the development of the foetus.

I seem to remember a pair of identical twins, one gay one straight, though (can't provide a link as it's too vague for even google to help) which would count against the genetic theory.

Re:Of course men not obsolete just yet (2, Insightful)

timmarhy (659436) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272154)

err what does gender have to do with proving sexual preference? all your example proves is that GENDER is hardwired, not sexual preference.

i personally think sexual preference is NOT hardwired though it does stem from prepubescent experiences. your just confusing 2 issues here.

I don't think enough emphasis is put on the fact this method produces birth defects. I find it INCREDIBLY selfish that anyone would risk their babies health just so that a man isn't involved in anyway. but that's just the kind of nonsense i've come to expect from certain man hating rug munching factions.

Re:Of course men not obsolete just yet (2, Interesting)

duguk (589689) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272428)

It's not *too* vague! :)

"Studies of identical twin brothers show that in 52% of cases where one twin is gay the other twin is also gay. This is a much higher concordance than the 2% to 10% distribution of gay people in the general population, as recorded by various sex surveys." from Gene Genie [petertatchell.net]

originally from a very interesting article: in the Guardian. [guardian.co.uk]

Disclaimer: I am a gay man, last born and I'm not sure if its environmental, genetic or a combination. The thing about gay men having a bigger cock is true though. Honest.

Re:Of course men not obsolete just yet (2, Interesting)

Dhalka226 (559740) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272454)

They've pretty much proven that both gender and sexual preference are hardwired into the brain

I read the article you linked, but it dealt primarily with gender rather than sexual preference. So, for starters, do you have any more links to sources?

Also, by "hardwired," I assume you mean genetic? I know there are cases in which brains essentially re-wire themselves. I wonder if, regardless of whether or not sexual preference is hard-wired to begin with, psychological issues could play a strong enough role to change the setting, so to speak.

I seem to remember a pair of identical twins, one gay one straight, though (can't provide a link as it's too vague for even google to help) which would count against the genetic theory.

Ehh, sort of. It would if it were true, but sexual identity is a complicated and emotional issue. People lie about it all the time--sometimes even to themselves.

I'm not sure if sexual preference is genetic or psychological, but I absolutely do not believe it is a choice by any meaningful definition of the word.

Re:Of course men not obsolete just yet (1)

denominateur (194939) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272368)

Genetic:
You can find the same behaviour in animals (from fruit flies, where it can be controlled through gene manipulation, to the big apes, our nearest relatives). There's also been studies which confirm that male homosexuals' brains respond differently to the testosterone (http://www.livescience.com/health/ap_050510_pheremones.html)

Psychological/Physiological debate:
This article makes some interesting points and has references, didn't read it completely though. http://allpsych.com/journal/homosexuality.html [allpsych.com]

Re:Of course men not obsolete just yet (1)

jmichaelg (148257) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272464)

Are there any actual properly controlled studies on this?

Seymour Benzer's group at Caltech demonstrated that male homosexual fruitflys (must ignore obvious pun...) have genetically different brains from male heterosexual flys. Benzer's group isolated the key difference down to some six cells in the portion of the fly's brain that is responsible for sexual attraction. They found that in the case of the homosexual fly, the cells had inherited two x chromosomes in lieu of the ordinary x-y pair. They attributed the difference to an error in cell mitosis when the fly's brain was initially developing.

Benzer's group did some amazing work. For more details, read Love, Time Memory: A Great Biologist and His Quest for the Origins of Behavior [amazon.com] by Jonathan Weiner. The book should be required reading for any high school biology student - it's excellent.

Re:Of course men not obsolete just yet (4, Insightful)

Haeleth (414428) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272074)

The depressing thing is, as a man I can't really think of why we should be allowed to stick around.
Come to that, why should people with disabilities be allowed to stick around, when a fully able-bodied society would be perfectly viable? Why should people with dark skin be allowed to stick around, when a fully-white society would be perfectly viable? Why should Jews be allowed to stick around, when a fully Jew-free society would be perfectly viable?

Most people view such questions as shocking, revolting, taboo. We have collectively decided that such questions simply have no place in our lives. We do not need any explanations or justifications: the idea that all these groups have a fundamental and irrevocable right to exist is taken as axiomatic. It's one of the foundations of our modern western civilisation, period, and there is simply no further room for debate.

The question of whether men should be "allowed" to exist is the same question, asked in a different way. Therefore the answer, to people in our society, will be the same: of course men must be allowed to exist. No justification will be required.

(Not to invoke Godwin or anything, but there's a reason some people refer to extremist feminists as "feminazis". Their views are unlikely to become mainstream any time soon.)

Re:Of course men not obsolete just yet (4, Insightful)

thesandtiger (819476) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272172)

Don't fall into the trap that "biological" means "genetic." There is almost certainly a biological basis to homosexuality, but it may be epigenetic rather than "genetic" as most people mean the term. It seems to be more complicated than most - including myself - think.

Re:Of course men not obsolete just yet (2)

syousef (465911) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272392)

But many women like the, ahem, companionship of other women. If this has a genetic basis (almost certain) then the genetic offspring of two such women is very likely to feel the same way. A female-only subculture is almost certainly on the way.

Such changes:
1. Take time. Generations, literally. A sub-culture already exists but it's not prevalent.
2. aren't necessary a good thing just because they're possible.

The depressing thing is, as a man I can't really think of why we should be allowed to stick around.

Fortunately there are those of us that can, but to be honest I don't feel like a long drawn out discussion about it.

Re:Of course men not obsolete just yet (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22272438)

The depressing thing is, as a man I can't really think of why we should be allowed to stick around.

Why don't you just cut your balls off so you can feel like you deserve to exist? Trying to impress militant feministists? Has this bullshit line every gotten you laid? Trust me, you'll still be sitting around in your parent's basement tomorrow night.

Must be a lot of rug munchers around if you're being modded up for this tripe. Some women like to have sex with other women is "informative"

Men will win in the end (sort of) (5, Insightful)

mithras invictus (1084169) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272442)

While feminists like to exaggerate the bad properties and general uselessness of men and the superior characteristics of women, they fail to realize that those properties have been genetically selected by their sexual counterpart. If men are really that useless, this must mean that women really suck at selecting a sexual partner.
If womens "stupid useless macho" partner preference is left unchecked by a mitigating male preference, everybody in the future will pretty much be a man with different sexual organs.

Of course men not changed just yet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22271932)

"We'd need to change both society and biology to change that."

Why? And who exactly wants this change?

"From a social and evolutionary point of view"

A rather limited POV, IMHO.

Re:Of course men not obsolete just yet (2, Funny)

umghhh (965931) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272146)

who is going to make vibrators if man is going extinct?

Re:Of course men not obsolete just yet (1)

Tim Browse (9263) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272294)

From a sexual point of view, most women are still part conditioned and part pre-programmed to want male ahem companionship. (I could put this much more crudely but I won't).

"Joey, we always know what you mean."

I don't get this type of research (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22271894)

What is the goal of this line of research? Provide a means for lesbian couples have kids without going to the sperm bank?

Re:I don't get this type of research (2, Insightful)

dltaylor (7510) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272106)

Cloning reproduces (more, or less, given epigenetics, and the source of the mitochondrial DNA in the egg) a copy of an adult. This technique allows the genetic equivalent of sexual reproduction from two (or three, again depending on the egg) parents. For two-genetically female couples, yes, it will allow, when reliable, replacing the trip to the sperm bank with a trip to "gene shop".

It will also allow infertile persons to have genetic children (like the planet needs more humans).

If we're going to obsolete men, let's start with the most overtly misogynistic, please. Imagine the freedom for women when they don't have to hide their bodies because most the local men are incapable of (or simply disinterested in) controlling themselves and can make their own life decisions without having to defer to some thug.

There have been several SF stories that covered this subject. Most presented an optimistic future with no men. There would certainly be no more unplanned pregnancies. Anyone who's heard about the major women's street fight in LA a couple of months back knows better, though. Without men to do most of the dying, women can be just as ruthless and brutal. I suspect being sodomized with a stick is no more pleasant that being raped by a man, although, at least, there's no risk of pregnancy.

damn. (5, Funny)

theheadlessrabbit (1022587) | more than 6 years ago | (#22271906)

as soon as scientists develop a machine that automatically opens pickle jars, men are fscked.

I don't want to be obsolete.
now I know how Windows feels. :(

Re:damn. (1)

turgid (580780) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272060)

What about putting up shelves and topping up the oil in the car?

Re:damn. (1)

theheadlessrabbit (1022587) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272116)

thats what lesbians are for.

not the kind of lesbians that appear in my movie collection. the kind of lesbians that exist in real life. the scary ones that will tear me in half for making this post.

Re:damn. (1)

turgid (580780) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272174)

I thought they were all Arts Critics and Environmentalists.

Inbreeding? (2, Insightful)

ultracool (883965) | more than 6 years ago | (#22271918)

Wouldn't that be like having a child with your twin, rather than something like cloning?

Re:Inbreeding? (3, Insightful)

BirdDoggy (886894) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272018)

I think you're right, I don't think the intention is for women to impregnate themselves with sperm created from their own bone marrow. The idea is that a woman can impregnate another woman.

Re:Inbreeding? (2, Insightful)

jamesh (87723) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272040)

I don't think you'd fertilize your egg with sperm from your _own_ bone marrow.

Re:Inbreeding? (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272150)

Well, ya see, if you take the marrow from one woman, and the egg from another, ya see.

Infertility Applications (5, Informative)

amilham (737749) | more than 6 years ago | (#22271962)

I think something people seem to be missing from this is that it could be great for couples (of whatever orientation) with men who are infertile. If sperm can be produced artificially from their bone marrow, they could still father children biologically.

Re:Infertility Applications (1)

Anomolous Cowturd (190524) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272206)

It would be hilarious if the sperm this produced were also infertile.

Fixed it (3, Funny)

eebra82 (907996) | more than 6 years ago | (#22271966)

Isn't Will Smith starring in some movie with tagline "the last man on earth"? Did the women kill the rest of them?

Re:Fixed it (3, Funny)

timmarhy (659436) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272194)

no the women just nagged them till all they could do is hide in the dark and bite anything that comes near them.

Women of the world, I entreat thee! (5, Funny)

Junior J. Junior III (192702) | more than 6 years ago | (#22271968)

Before you go throwing out the male gender, stop for a moment and consider this:

Sperm extracted from my bone is a lot less painful to obtain than from your bones. Think about it!

Re:Women of the world, I entreat thee! (1)

chuckymonkey (1059244) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272052)

I do believe that there is a way of extracting sperm from us men that happens to fun for both parties involved.

Re:Women of the world, I entreat thee! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22272200)

biggest swoosh ever?

Re:Women of the world, I entreat thee! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22272326)

While guy on guy fun is appreciated by some women, if Japanese yaoi is any indication it's unfortunately nowhere near as popular as lesbians are for men. : )

Re:Women of the world, I entreat thee! (5, Funny)

swarsron (612788) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272268)

great, now they're going to rip our bones out to make sperm. Way to go, traitor!

Re:Women of the world, I entreat thee! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22272398)

great, now they're going to rip our bones out to make sperm. Way to go, traitor!
Fe Fi Fo Fum,
I smell the marrow of an Englishman,
Be he dead or be he barren,
I'll grind his bones to bun my oven.

Czech SciFi movie (1)

Bender_ (179208) | more than 6 years ago | (#22271988)


I remember there is an old Czech SciFi movie about an utopian society where men are obselete and women procastrinate by cloning. Anyone remember then name?

Re:Czech SciFi movie (1)

amilham (737749) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272006)

Procastrinate? That word is scary to me. Like a combination of "procrastinate" and "castrate".

Re:Czech SciFi movie (1)

mindwanderer (1169521) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272044)

Well it's not so bad, if they never get around to doing it.

Re:Czech SciFi movie (1)

Onetus (23797) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272026)

I believe you're talking about "Seksmisja"
It was made in 1984 (?!) in Polish.

Obligatory IMDB link: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088083/ [imdb.com]

Re:Czech SciFi movie (1)

Chapter80 (926879) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272048)

define: procastrinate = no definitions.

perhaps you mean procreate.

Re:Czech SciFi movie (1)

Bender_ (179208) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272102)


True, I should use the preview button more often.

Also a James Tiptree novel... (3, Interesting)

Stanislav_J (947290) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272104)

...on a similar theme (maleless society after a plague -- women reproduce via cloning).

"Houston, Houston, Do You Read?" [wikipedia.org]

Re:Czech SciFi movie (4, Informative)

Maljin Jolt (746064) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272126)

I remember there is an old Czech SciFi movie about an utopian society where men are obselete and women procastrinate by cloning. Anyone remember then name?

That movie is not Czech, but Polish, original title is "Sexmisja" (Sexmise in Czech dabing). Some early 80', I guess. In after-nuclear war epoch, women consolidated a society in underground bunkers-mines system, ruled by two opposing organizations, Genetix and Archeo, struggling each other with different ideologies... until they found a hybernation chamber with two frozen men in excavations.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088083/?___412 [imdb.com]

Well, seems a story writer is a Czech :)

Re:Czech SciFi movie (1)

icebrain (944107) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272224)

Charlotte Perkins Gilman wrote Herland back in 1915; essentially a similar premise.

Re:Czech SciFi movie (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22272250)

Probably you mean Polish (but what's a small bit of Sudettenland [wikipedia.org] between friends :-) and the film is Sexmission or Seksmisja in Polish [wikipedia.org] which whilst funny the first time is vastly overrated by all the Polish males I know.

Interesting (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22271998)

Apart from the obvious cackling from the feminist groups which support the SCUM Manifest. This is actually astonishing (yes I am a man). Why? Because it proves (yet again, may I remind you) of the power of stemcells.

Now here is the paradox. Feminist groups who were opposed to the use of stemcells on grounds of "limiting the woman's role in society" would now have to do a 180 degree turn and support stemcells if they want this technique. I don't know about you but I am so subscribing to every mailing list I can find about feminism.

amazonian overlords (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22272000)

"our new amazonian overlords and remind them that men are still very good at mowing lawns and fixing cars."

Just remember that the sort of women who want to reproduce with other women are also very good at mowing lawns and fixing cars!

Feminists, rejoice! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22272030)

This has got to be a feminist's wet dream. Women of Mt. Holyoke university (and the like), rejoice!

Silly Scientists... This aint nothing new... (3, Funny)

Jackie_Chan_Fan (730745) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272038)

Hell, I be making sperm every time i bone a female.

Flat Pack Furniture (4, Funny)

turgid (580780) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272072)

This won't be allowed to happen. IKEA will go out of business.

Yes (4, Funny)

eclectro (227083) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272078)

But my sperm is Organic(TM). No telling what you're gonna get with the fake stuff.

Old news - I'm a Slashdotter (4, Funny)

Hogwash McFly (678207) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272082)

I've been obsolete from a reproductive point of view for some time now.

A couple of comments on this: (4, Informative)

Upaut (670171) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272084)

1.) This is an argument against all those advocating to ban same sex marriage, because they "cannot reproduce". Quite the common argument recently. Despite my second point.

2.) THEY DID THIS FIVE YEARS AGO. Really. While I was still in high school I cheered the first time someone pulled this off. I used it in a debate with someone on the case of gay marriage. Its in my old Science News... I mean this might be a team doing it again, or doing it better, but they are still not the first.

Just my 2 cents.

Re:A couple of comments on this: (1)

sigzero (914876) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272434)

If you are arguing your #1 there as a reason you have no clue what the whole debate is about and that isn't "quite the common argument recently" despite your writing so.

Mowing lawns (1)

MikeUW (999162) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272096)

I think mowing lawns is the skill you'll want to hone the most...it is the most likely to satisfy your amazonian woman overlords enough to keep you around.

You do that, I will specialize in SnooSnoo (2, Funny)

SmallFurryCreature (593017) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272182)

Lets face it, robotic mowers exist. Garbage chutes exist. But dildo's have been around for millenia and they never replaced us yet.

Mind you, it is murder on the hips but a man got to do, what a man got to do. I will bravely sacrifice myself so that the rest of slashdot can live a pure life! Yes I am that noble.

Obsolete? But who will... (1)

dohzer (867770) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272118)

...open jars?

Replacing Men is not a good idea. (3, Interesting)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272138)

This could be a great way towards extinction.
1. Phase out men.
2. When there are no men you can only breed through a procedure.
3. Wait for a major war or some major problem where a lot of people die and a good chance many with the knowledge of the procedure will die to. (Just because the world is run by woman don't think for a second that they will solve all the problems that we have)
4. Then a slow extinction.

Generally it is a bad idea. There is also the issue rejecting half of the genetic code and the biological and psyological difference that men have give a major advantage to the specie.

Re:Replacing Men is not a good idea. (0, Troll)

timmarhy (659436) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272210)

I would wager if the planet was made up of only women, the war would come sooner then you could imagine.

too many women and they would just implode on their own mood swings.

Re:Replacing Men is not a good idea. (1)

iHal (1213402) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272362)

I couldn't agree with you more. Silly humans! Here we go again, playing with nature like we know everything. Between nuclear weapons, our utter hatred and abuse of our own planet, and stuff like this, it amazes me that we haven't managed to destroy ourselves already.

Great but... (1)

Taleron (875810) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272152)

Too little too late for the Asgard. Well, unless we gate through a star... y'know, again...

Like women would really get themselves pregnant (2, Interesting)

tjstork (137384) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272168)

That's the craziest thing I ever heard of. As soon women get any rights, the first thing they do is stop having babies. The old 1980's battle of the sexes is a two way street. If men may be obsolete sperm providers, then it follows that a woman is useless unless she is pregnant!

Re:Like women would really get themselves pregnant (2, Funny)

turgid (580780) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272204)

And you, Mr Stork, will be out of business!

Please don't cite The Daily Mail (5, Informative)

Critical_ (25211) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272242)

The Daily Mail is considered a tabloid rag by many of us who have lived in the UK because they cater to people with a palate for sensationalist headlines and content. The referenced New Scientist article [newscientist.com] talking about Karim Nayernia's research was published in April of 2007 but The Daily Mail chose to report it many months later. Regardless, since last year there have been few tangible gains in this field. The problem rests in the fact that converted stem cells can achieve the first 2 of 3 stages towards mature sperm development. Even once this is done there is no guarantee the sperm can actually be used in IVF to create a viable/implantable fertilized egg.

The implications of this research are great but rags like The Daily Mail focus on the most provocative uses such as gay/lesbian couples conceiving and auto-reproduction. Before we can approve this research for use in the public we must ascertain whether the manipulations necessary to force conversion of bone marrow stem cells into spermatogonium or the products of these cells potentially introduce undetectable abnormalities within the genetic code. Next, during the process of spermatogenesis chromosomal crossover introduces genetic variability. Without more details in the original article I wonder if one of the failing stages of development involves this important process. Lastly, auto-reproduction is nearly impossible. Every person carries a set of lethal recessive alleles which manifest themselves in incestuous reproductive pairings--hence why most societies have shunned this sort of relationship. This would almost certainly guarantee the fetus would spontaneously abort.

The real application of this research is injecting spermatogonium eggs in women or men who are infertile. This would revolutionize reproductive medicine because it would allow couples to conceive naturally. However, being in the medical field, there are very valid natural reasons why couples may not be able to reproduce (i.e. certain genetic abnormalities) or why fetuses spontaneously abort that we need to decide as a society whether its prudent to interfere. I don't claim to have the answers but I would welcome discussion in this direction so we can make informed choices in the medical breakthroughs we're bound to see in the next few decades.

Incidentally, the New Scientist published a new article [newscientist.com] today on the matter discussing the implications of this research. Without having a subscription I can't read more but I certainly wouldn't count out fathers just yet. Having a child is only the first part of the equation. Raising an emotionally and psychologically well-adjusted child still necessitates their role--although many single-parents or LGBT couples may argue this point. Anyway, as a community I hope we're a bit more careful of citing sensationalist publications.

Demented arcticle (1)

gweihir (88907) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272256)

men obsolete --- all children would be men

What is wrong here?

Reading Comprehension (1)

dreamchaser (49529) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272396)

All the offspring would be female, not male. You lose.

Men can also reproudce without women... (1)

justkeeper (1139245) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272302)

We have tubes! A series of tubes! Finally a way for all the /.ers to make babies with the internet!

I wouldn't say obsolete. (2, Funny)

EddyPearson (901263) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272310)

I wouldn't say obsolete, just a lot cheaper.

Downgraded? (4, Funny)

dtml-try MyNick (453562) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272334)

So men are now downgraded to just a lustobject?

Ofcourse that's very sad and tragic. But I can live with it.

Re:Downgraded? (1)

doyoulikeworms (1094003) | more than 6 years ago | (#22272384)

We're at the same level as women now???

Isn't "female bone marrow" already a nickname... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22272422)

... for sperm? Or do I have an old list...

What about infertile men? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22272456)

Can the same procedure be used for infertile men, who are unable to produce viable sperm? If so, I think this would be a far more practical application. No disrespect to homosexuals.
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