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Fedora 9 "Sulphur" Alpha Released

kdawson posted more than 6 years ago | from the they-really-spell-it-that-way dept.

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JonRob writes "The first development snapshot of Fedora 9 (Sulphur) has been released, providing both a KDE and a GNOME live CD. This is the first of three test releases before the final version of Fedora 9 this April. The alpha features many changes including KDE 4 by default, GNOME 2.21.4, support for creation of encrypted partitions and for resizing EXT2/EXT3/NTFS partitions during install, speed improvements to X, the Linux 2.6.24 kernel, and much more."

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SLASHDOT SUXORZ (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22310804)

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much "sulphur" released from here too [goatse.ch]

Re:SLASHDOT SUXORZ (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22310836)

nice. i had wondered where you were hiding...

Wireless (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22310862)

Is this release going to support wireless or is it still going to be a pain in the ass?

Re:Wireless (2, Informative)

1_brown_mouse (160511) | more than 6 years ago | (#22311556)

I have had no problems with wireless using the ndiswrapper.

http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/ [sourceforge.net]

The switch on the side of my laptop that turns it on and off has caused me more grief for a while than any driver issue.

Re:Wireless (0, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22312180)

I have had no problems with wireless using the ndiswrapper.

http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/ [sourceforge.net]

The switch on the side of my laptop that turns it on and off has caused me more grief for a while than any driver issue.
Some of us have wireless cards that have native Linux drivers, but Fedora lacks support for them. For example, my PowerBook has a broadcom. Ubuntu supports it with open drivers out of the box. OpenSUSE is the same way. My main desktop is supported by Madwifi. Fedora lacks support, though you can add it manually (pain in the ass). Ubuntu supports it out of the box, as does OpenSUSE. My ThinkPad has an Intel 3945. Fedora lacks support for it, but you can install it manually (pain in the ass). Ubuntu supports it out of the box, as does OpenSUSE.

Some of them can be supported via a third party repo (livna) that's incompatibility with the repos that have the software you actually want (rpmforge).

Would it kill them to have a unsupported repo that contains nothing but drivers? Ie, nVidia, wireless, and fully in sync with the constant kernel updates?

I don't feel like using a Windows driver on Linux when there is a Linux driver available.

Re:Wireless (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22313418)

Some of them can be supported via a third party repo (livna) that's incompatibility with the repos that have the software you actually want (rpmforge).
This is one thing I hate about Fedora. In Debian or Ubuntu it takes a few seconds to enable everything I need. But with Fedora, I end up having to fuck around with random third party repositories (livna, rpmforge etc). The third party repositories aren't compatible with each other, their security is questionable, and there isn't a single third party repository that has everything I need. It's enough of a pain in the ass that I just don't bother with Fedora anymore.

Fedora repositories (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22315974)

Fedora lacks support for it, but you can install it manually (pain in the ass). Ubuntu supports it out of the box, as does OpenSUSE.
Yeah, that's the speed of drivers on Fedora.

Some of them can be supported via a third party repo (livna) that's incompatibility with the repos that have the software you actually want (rpmforge).
That's not quite right. I agree that the rpmforge repos are preferable (of course), but let's not overstate the incompatibility of the others (Livna, and *shudder* ATrpms). The non-rpmforge unofficial repos are incompatible with the rest because they replace packages in the Fedora distribution itself. Therefore, doing "yum update" with livna enabled does bad things. If there's something in livna or ATrpms that you want:
1) install the repo
2) disable the repo (to prevent routine updates from pulling updates from it, possibly hosing your package set)
3) say, i.e., "yum --enablerepo=livna install mypackage"
4) IF that doesn't replace anything you don't want replaced, say y; otherwise, say n
4a) you have to enable the repo manually, AND check for package replacement manually, every time you want to update that package

For example: many people use livna's nvidia driver package, which is fine because there is no collision. Every time you update the kernel, you have to say "yum --enablerepo=livna update kmod-nvidia" to get the drives for the new kernel version. (It's the price to be paid for having working 3D nvidia drivers under package management in Fedora.) Perhaps the wireless drivers you mention are available like this.

Would it kill them to have a unsupported repo that contains nothing but drivers? Ie, nVidia, wireless, and fully in sync with the constant kernel updates?
Yes. The reason many packages are found in unofficial repos is the murky legality of "redistributing" them in Fedora's (Redhat's) country of origin. That's why the repositories tend to be based in countries where it's OK to, say, package the effing drivers properly and redistributing them via the repository system, since you're not claiming they're yours, or modifying them. Those repos also tend to have the media functionality that some U.S. company will sue you into financial death for having or distributing without giving them money. Yeah, you bought that DVD at Walmart but you can't play it unless you *licence* the *right* to play it? That's unreasonable on several levels, and fortunately there are a few places on Earth that realize this and permit the existence of such repo servers.

That does not address the problem of certain repositories (rpmforge) being mutually compatible with the main distribution and thus each other, while others (Livna, ATrpms) are mutually INcompatible. That seems to be the real heart of your complaint, and it's legitimate. The RPMforge consortium was formed to fix the problem of repository collision, and the other repositories just aren't on board (for various reasons).

Re:Wireless (1)

blueg3 (192743) | more than 6 years ago | (#22312894)

Depends on what you mean. Will they start providing closed-source or otherwise IP-encumbered drivers? No.

The OS of the FUTURE!!! (4, Funny)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 6 years ago | (#22310886)

Fedora 9: Sulphur Alpha
Isn't this a new show on the SciFi channel?

Gawd that name stinks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22311020)

Are you sure this isn't the code name for keep-the-Windows-open-for-ventilation 7?

Let me tell you what sulphur does to people. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22311062)

I know it's nice to be on the bleeding edge... (1)

thewils (463314) | more than 6 years ago | (#22311154)

...but can anyone give some good reasons as to why a Fedora 4,5,6,7 and 8 user might migrate to F9 instead of maybe waiting and checking out F10?

I was checking out the F9 Features only last night and it didn't seem that there was a lot in there that had me salivating like F8 did. There was mention of Firefox 3 but I couldn't ascertain the status of it.

It's a certain amount of trouble to do the upgrade (I usually do it as a new install), just wondering if it's worth it for me this time round.

Encrypted root support in anaconda. (5, Informative)

Ayanami Rei (621112) | more than 6 years ago | (#22311538)

That right there is the NUMBER ONE reason to get it if you have a laptop. It's been a long time coming and it is sorely missed.
Now you too can reap the benefits of transparent encryption enforced at boot on your portable device, wrapped up in a package that is easy to set up.

Re:Encrypted root support in anaconda. (1)

speculatrix (678524) | more than 6 years ago | (#22313332)

suse10.2 - which has been out for eons - they're now on 10.3 - has had point and click encrypted partition creation... along with trivial creation of s/w raid (raid 0, 1 & 5)... so how come everyone else has taken so long to catch up.

the advanced disk partitioning/formatting tool on suse is a real winner - even my developers (non-linux experts by far) could manage it; I tried ubuntu server only 4 months ago and it truly sucked golf balls through capillary tubes in the disk prep tools.

Re:Encrypted root support in anaconda. (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22313640)

It's been trivial to create encrypted partitions in Debian for quite some time. The option has been part of the installation process since Etch. Debian also has the big advantage that it's not Suse.

Re:Encrypted root support in anaconda. (1)

speculatrix (678524) | more than 6 years ago | (#22318478)

debian has the big advantage that you save lots of money not buying cutting edge hardware since it won't work on that :-P

Creating them after the fact is easy in any distro (1)

Ayanami Rei (621112) | more than 6 years ago | (#22314090)

It was getting the installer / boot scripts to support them (and also getting mkinitrd patched) so you can do encrypted root out of the box.

There's little things about that you have to watch out for... for example, if you decide to use LVM and swap but use a dynamic generated key for encrypting swap, then you have to disable hibernation because resume won't work. Blah blah blah...

Re:Encrypted root support in anaconda. (1)

Kjella (173770) | more than 6 years ago | (#22313732)

If you wanted that so badly, why not go with one of the distros that's already delivered that in a release, like Ubuntu (alt cd) or Debian? Easiest setup I've seen in ages. Strangely enough, I haven't found any instructions on how to mount a *second* encrypted drive automagically using either same key or key from root, basicly one key to unlock the whole system. That should be a lot easier but certainly not easy or documented...

Because some of us don't like Ubuntu? (1)

Ayanami Rei (621112) | more than 6 years ago | (#22314328)

It's not the environment is bad, I just don't like rolling APT packages. I was okay with hand-rolling patched mkinitrd's for the last few years but anaconda support here is like delicious gravy to me.

Re:Encrypted root support in anaconda. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22316754)

That right there is the NUMBER ONE reason to get it if you have a laptop. It's been a long time coming and it is sorely missed.
Now you too can reap the benefits of transparent encryption enforced at boot on your portable device, wrapped up in a package that is easy to set up.
Too bad it won't support your laptop's wireless adapter...

Uh huh. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22325290)

Try it... You may find the ar5212 with openbsd HAL driver works.
Otherwise:

# rpm -ivh http://rpm.livna.org/livna-release-9.rpm [livna.org]
# yum -y install kmod-madwifi

The main difference is that the 3rd party drivers contain firmware ripped from Windows drivers. Not free to distrbute but you just want it to work, right?

Re:I know it's nice to be on the bleeding edge... (1)

0racle (667029) | more than 6 years ago | (#22311640)

If I was a Fedora user, I'd be going to 9 for KDE 4.

Re:I know it's nice to be on the bleeding edge... (4, Informative)

cbart387 (1192883) | more than 6 years ago | (#22311684)

For me the quicker starting/stopping of X sounds nice [64.233.169.104] (provided by google since Fedora's server is overloaded right now). An interest of mine is in Operations Research and I typically turn off X when running simulations to remove some of the variability. It'd be nice to have a quicker response from X. I'm not sure if that's on everyone's list though ...

Re:I know it's nice to be on the bleeding edge... (1)

BrianGKUAC (919321) | more than 6 years ago | (#22313098)

ext4, and a much faster load time, perhaps?

Re:I know it's nice to be on the bleeding edge... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22319044)

...but can anyone give some good reasons as to why a Fedora 4,5,6,7 and 8 user might migrate to F9 instead of maybe waiting and checking out F10?

Fedora 4,5 and 6 no longer get security fixes (I believe the independant 'legacy release' support has largely gone away - could be wrong).

Each release is officially supported for 15 months, so if you are bothered at all about security you should install at least alternate releases.

Can't remember the the specifics off the top of my head, but each subsequent release I've installed has had less problems and needed less manual tweaking (I've been through RH9,FC2,FC4,FC6,F7 and now switching to F8).

Nomen est omen? (2, Informative)

iuso (1145139) | more than 6 years ago | (#22311294)

"Sulphur" translates to the Finnish word "rikki", which incidentally also means "broken".

it smells like sulphur (4, Funny)

Reverend528 (585549) | more than 6 years ago | (#22312976)

of course, that's a sign that there are lots of daemons.

Is this a deliberate naming convention? (1)

ricebowl (999467) | more than 6 years ago | (#22311414)

I realise I'm still very new to Linux, familiarising myself with Ubuntu Server and the desktop variants only recently, but 'sulphur'? The new improved Fedora: 'smells like rotting eggs'? Surely that's not the best name they could've come up with. Mind you, it's an Alpha release so maybe it's simply to prevent accidental downloads...

Re:Is this a deliberate naming convention? (1)

NaCh0 (6124) | more than 6 years ago | (#22311470)

Mind you, it's an Alpha release so maybe it's simply to prevent accidental downloads...

Bingo!

Re:Is this a deliberate naming convention? (2, Informative)

rudlavibizon (948703) | more than 6 years ago | (#22311574)

Sulfur doesn't smell like rotten eggs, hydrogen-sulfide [wikipedia.org] does

Re:Is this a deliberate naming convention? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22319108)

Burning Sulphur has distinctive smell too.

Re:Is this a deliberate naming convention? (1)

MonsterTrimble (1205334) | more than 6 years ago | (#22312530)

Sulphur: Sounds cool, smells bad.

Assume marketing had a hand in it.

Re:Is this a deliberate naming convention? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22317752)

No, Marketing didn't pick the name.
Devs pick names based on a connection to a previous name. Its a privilege granted to them only. The list is then examined by Red Hat Legal Dept, and the "available" names are put up on a poll, in which any member of the Fedora Community can vote. The winner this round was "Sulphur", which is used to kill "Werewolves" (Fedora 8's Codename)

List of all Fedora Names and their connections [fedoraproject.org]
Disclaimer: I'm part of the Fedora Ambassadors ;)

Re:Is this a deliberate naming convention? (1)

billius (1188143) | more than 6 years ago | (#22339258)

Indeed, Fedora Brimstone would have been a much more metal name...

filesystems (1)

blackjackshellac (849713) | more than 6 years ago | (#22311908)

I wish they'd add a decent extent based filesystem to their install defaults. I'd love to have xfs in there by default and not have to install a separate module.

Re:filesystems (2, Informative)

businessnerd (1009815) | more than 6 years ago | (#22313104)

Generally, xfs and others like reiser are supported by default, but you have to "unlock" them at install time. To do this, when you first boot up the install disk, instead of just hitting Enter to launch that graphical installer (anaconda) you have to type in "linux xfs" or insert another fs of choice in the place of xfs. Not sure why they do this, but it is nice to know that it is available "out of the box".

What did they break now? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22312220)

After using Fedora for a while, it appears to me that they don't actually test the packages all that well. Some of the bugs in FC8 are glaringly obvious and yet it got tossed out to the masses.

I mean "bleeding edge" is one thing but this is quite another. Do other distros do better testing?

Re:What did they break now? (0, Troll)

ThePhilips (752041) | more than 6 years ago | (#22315338)

RH never made a secret that Fedora is essentially a test bed for their commercial offering RHEL.

It would sound like rants, yet, the only people I know using Fedora are using it "unwillingly:" because their companies run RHEL, because their partners are using RHEL, because they need need to be compatible to RHEL, etc. I know nobody who uses Fedora because s/he likes it.

Fedora isn't bad at all. Yet, rough edges of corporate leadership are sticking out all over the place.

Re:What did they break now? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22318320)

I use it because of the combination of security (by far the best implementation of selinux) and bleeding edge features. I want the bleeding edge. I understand that that means I'm going to get some cuts, but I can take it. I like it better than following.

Re:What did they break now? (1)

idontgno (624372) | more than 6 years ago | (#22325628)

would sound like rants, yet, the only people I know using Fedora are using it "unwillingly:" because their companies run RHEL, because their partners are using RHEL, because they need need to be compatible to RHEL, etc. I know nobody who uses Fedora because s/he likes it.

So why aren't they running CentOS? [centos.org] It is RHEL without the trademarks and the promises-on-paper you don't get anyways if you're running Fedora, and as far as my experience goes it's production-grade. You're not RH's guinea pig like you'd be with Fedora.

People who are running Fedora because they want a solid server experience are mislead. The real reason to run Fedora is because you want to help out on the forefront, pioneering the good stuff that may eventually show up in RHEL (and CentOS).

On the other hand, pioneers tend to wind up face-down in the desert with arrows in their backs...

Re:What did they break now? (1)

zrq (794138) | more than 6 years ago | (#22353588)

I know nobody who uses Fedora because s/he likes it.

I use Fedora on all my machines, servers, desktops and laptops, and like it a lot.

Glad to make your acquaintance, now you know at least one person who uses Fedora because they like it.

Whew (1)

macdaddy (38372) | more than 6 years ago | (#22312400)

phew! What's that smell?

Compaq DL380 with Raid (1)

Pop69 (700500) | more than 6 years ago | (#22312842)

Let me know when it will boot after install on one of these, otherwise I'll be sticking with Slack on my servers

Re:Compaq DL380 with Raid (3, Insightful)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 6 years ago | (#22313770)

Why would you use Fedora for a production server?
Fedora has too short of a supported life for a server. I would recomend CentOS if you want a Red Hat like server install.

Re:Compaq DL380 with Raid (1)

J.Y.Kelly (828209) | more than 6 years ago | (#22318720)

It depends on what you need.

I'm running around 7 fedora servers performing various functions (web server, databases, svn etc.) and most of them started off with Fedora Core 1 and have done every update (not reinstall) to where they are now (f8).

I've never had a major OS problem with any of them. I lose about an hour of uptime every 6 months to run the update to the latest version (after testing it on a devel server), and I combine this with some normal housekeeping I'd be doing anyway. I find that these small incremental updates are very convenient and painless.

People go on about Fedora being cutting edge and therefore unstable - but this is only true to any significant extent for more advanced desktop features. For server functions it's been rock solid.

Re:Compaq DL380 with Raid (1)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 6 years ago | (#22320428)

But what do you gain from using Fedora over CentOS?
I am not saying that can not use Fedora and have a stable server but why choose it over CentOS?
CentOS is just fine at running web servers, databases, and SVN. Most databases and Apache produce RPMs for Red Hat Enterpise very early in the update cycle so there is no need for you to not have the latest and greatest if you want. All the tools are pretty much the same for management so why Fedora over CentOS?
I am long time Suse user but I have to admit that I have really become fond of CentOS for servers. That and I just installed the Latest stable Ubuntu on my desktop and my goodness am I impressed with it. The simplest install I have ever done.
Now if they could just get GNASH to work as well as Flash I would be ready to jump to 64 bit on my desktop.

Re:Compaq DL380 with Raid (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22328928)

CentOS isn't sexy with the system admin entry-level talent pool.

Try to find a entry-level sysadmin with any idea what CentOS is. They immediately categorize it as old, legacy code. They don't want to work on it, but have lots of experience playing with Fedora (or other popular distros).

Sooooo..... if you're infrastructure can handle it, you run with what the cheap monkeys are used to. It's the same reason we still have Windows sitting around. Many entry-level sysadmins can't handle a command line. Sad but true.

If you can find a sysadmin candidate who can tell you the general advantages of running CentOS, and those advantages are in line with your business needs, then you've found a possible gem...but then you need to figure out if that gem is really an old-fart unwilling to learn anything new.

But, CentOS doesn't offer anything compelling for my needs. It has doesn't have an entry-level talent pool willing to work on it. So I'll pass.

Re:Compaq DL380 with Raid (1)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 6 years ago | (#22328990)

I know this is a bit of a radical statment but Linux is Linux.
I don't find it all that hard to jump from Ubuntu, to OpenSuse, to CentOS.
Okay yum is a little different than apt-get and both are a little different from Yast but they are just not that hard to move from.
The difference between Fedora and CentOS are so small that I just don't see the problem but then I like learning new stuff and I am an old fart.

Longest lifetime? (1)

Kludge (13653) | more than 6 years ago | (#22331654)

RHEL 3 = red hat 9?
RHEL 4 = fedora 3
RHEL 5 = fedora 6
RHEL 6 = fedora ?

If I'm right, that last number will be a 9. If you install alpha now, you'll have all the latest stuff and a really long support life time.

Re:Longest lifetime? (1)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 6 years ago | (#22333810)

But the latest stuff is not always the best stuff.

The idea behind RHEL and CentOS and frankly Debian is to provide the most stable platform. For production servers uptime is everything. The ideal situation would be if you never had to update your server at all. That of course just doesn't happen. There will always be security fixes and bug fixes but many new features are just not that important.
To give you a real world example. At my office we use a Postgres Database server to run our call queue. We have a program that keeps track of all our incoming support calls and out going support calls. Right now it does what we need and is fast.
Postgres just came out with a brand new version. It looks great and has some really nice features. The thing is I don't need those features until I write a new version of our phone software. Postgres keeps updating the older version of the postgres server software with bug and security fixes for just that reason. I don't need to jump to a new major release until I want to.
This is typical of servers. Your example is kind of misleading. I think that Fedora 3 is no longer supported with updates, RHEL4 is.
For a home system Fedora is great. For a small office? Why not if you want it. But CentOS has the same cost as Fedora and a much longer support life.
Yea it may be "boring" but frankly boring is good for a server.

You are missing the point (1)

Kludge (13653) | more than 6 years ago | (#22363072)

I think that Fedora 3 is no longer supported with updates, RHEL4 is.
You seem to have missed the point entirely.
All Fedora 3 packages work on RHEL4. RHEL4 packages work on Fedora 3.
They are the same thing. RHEL4 is just an updated version of Fedora 3.
If you installed Fedora 3, you can just set yum to update from RHEL4/CentOS4/ScientificLinux4 servers.

Re:Compaq DL380 with Raid (1)

rsax (603351) | more than 6 years ago | (#22316196)

As the other poster pointed out, make your life easier and install CentOS for servers instead of Fedora. I'm using CentOS 5.1 on Proliant DL360s and DL380s, G5 and older. All the HP monitoring software works as long as you modify the /etc/redhat-release file before installing.

I wonder if it'll work on my hardware... (1)

rthille (8526) | more than 6 years ago | (#22313010)


I've been trying different Linux releases since 6 or 7, and I can't get anything to run stable on my VIA EPIA EN-15000G. Memtest86 will run for days with no errors. NetBSD (CURRENT) will run stable for as long as I've kept it up. Linux dies (just locks up hard: ping gets nothing, no response at the console) after a day or two at most, whether or not X is running. I'd _really_ prefer Linux for this box, since I wanted VMWare and to be able to consolidate a few boxes I use for various things. But I can't get Linux stable. Other people have reported their EN-15000G is stable, but not mine for some reason...

That's way below what they expect to perform well. (2, Interesting)

jensend (71114) | more than 6 years ago | (#22314200)

I've been trying different Linux releases since 6 or 7
Presumably you mean different Fedora releases since Fedora 6 or 7?

You'll note that their target machine for X11 2d desktop performance [fedoraproject.org] is a 1.7GHz Pentium M with a Radeon 7500, which they say is "not fast and therefore a good target for tuning." I miss the days when you could expect- out of the box- to get good desktop performance on your 400MHz Pentium II and have a ~1.5GB install footprint (or less if you bothered deselecting stuff you didn't need on install). Now endless tweaking and tuning and putzing with stuff is required to get poor (rather than abysmal) performance on something 2-3 times that fast using 2-3 times the space. There's really been about as much proportional bloat in Linux distros since the RH 6.x days as there has been in corresponding Windows versions up to Vista.

Re:That's way below what they expect to perform we (1)

owlman17 (871857) | more than 6 years ago | (#22316120)

I do as a matter of fact, have a 400MHz PII and a ~1.5GB (maybe less than half of that) install footprint, but I'm using LFS. I get to choose the packages that I want. It takes about a day to compile everything (I made scripts to ease the tedium). For those who won't bother, a 5 MB Ubuntu Minimal CD would do, plus a fast connection. Should be just about the same.

Re:That's way below what they expect to perform we (1)

rthille (8526) | more than 6 years ago | (#22316462)

Yeah, I've tried each new Fedora release (and some Suse and Ubuntu) when it comes out. Each one locks up hard. I don't care if it's fast, as it's a replacement for a Cobalt RaQ2+ 250MHz MIPS machine with no X11 installed...I just want it to run, be stable, and run VMWare.

Re:That's way below what they expect to perform we (1)

sonamchauhan (587356) | more than 6 years ago | (#22329034)

> You'll note that their target machine for X11 2d desktop
> performance is a ...

Nope, the link merely notes that their reference machine for _testing_ an enhancement to X is a ...

Re:I wonder if it'll work on my hardware... (1)

(H)elix1 (231155) | more than 6 years ago | (#22317374)

w00t! I know this one. Had the same problem with my mainboards - the C7 processor is i586, not i686. Try the Ubuntu distros - they will work without any work. Gentoo, RedHat derivatives(Centos, RHEL, OEL) default to i686, which will cause all sorts of weirdness like hard crashes and reboots. If you want to get RH to work, you need to set it up with the correct kernel.

(Got one of those $60 'google dev kit' mainboards, and was puzzled when gOS (a Ubuntu variant) booted fine, but Gentoo live distro did not. Same deal for my fanless VIA EPIA 5000)

Re:I wonder if it'll work on my hardware... (1)

rthille (8526) | more than 6 years ago | (#22317926)

I'm not in front of the machine right now (and it's powered down), but I don't think that's it. I'm pretty sure I tired Ubuntu, at least once, and according to this: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Epia_CN10000 [gentoo-wiki.com] the C7 is an i686. So does this: http://tinyurl.com/2pmpwy [tinyurl.com] but it seems to indicate that a C3 (the previous VIA processor rev) wasn't an i686.

torrent? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22316068)

does anyone know where the torrent can be found?

Re:torrent? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22321702)

does anyone know where the torrent can be found?
Here: http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease [fedoraproject.org]

9? Sulfur? (3, Funny)

bmo (77928) | more than 6 years ago | (#22317606)

I thought Fluorine was 9. Sulfur is 16, last I checked.

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