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Vista SP1 Update Locks Out Some Users

kdawson posted more than 6 years ago | from the lather-rinse-repeat dept.

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Echostorm writes with word that Windows Vista SP1, which began rolling out via Automatic Update, has left some users' machines unbootable. The update loops forever on "Configuring updates: Stage 3 of 3 — 0% complete. Do not turn off your computer." "Shutting down"... restart and loop. Echostorm notes having found traces of what sounds like the same bug in early beta releases of SP1. It's unclear how many users are affected. So far there is no word on a fix from Microsoft.

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You can't make this stuff up. (5, Funny)

kellyb9 (954229) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435100)

They actually DO beta test their software, right??????????

Re:You can't make this stuff up. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22435166)

WE actually DO beta test their software, right??????????

There, I fixed that for you.

Re:You can't make this stuff up. (2, Funny)

CSMatt (1175471) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435648)

Score:0, Insightful

Only on Slashdot.

Re:You can't make this stuff up. (4, Interesting)

CrazyTalk (662055) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435204)

Actually, yes. In fact, those of us inside Microsoft (I'm a Vendor, and not on Vista team) have had access to SP1 for over a month.

Re:You can't make this stuff up. (1)

KublaiKhan (522918) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435232)

So why didn't they catch this bug, then?

Or do they all have homogeneous hardware to test these things on?

Re:You can't make this stuff up. (5, Insightful)

B3ryllium (571199) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435406)

I think their test setups are entirely Hetero, dude. However, it's rather difficult to have every possible machine configuration represented. I mean, think of the permutations! Why won't anyone think of the permutations?

Re:You can't make this stuff up. (1)

CrazyTalk (662055) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435412)

I can't speak for the Vista test team methodology (and I'm sure they should not be posting on slashdot in any case!) but contractors and vendors are NOT all running the same hardware (let alone FTEs).

Re:You can't make this stuff up. (2, Insightful)

kellyb9 (954229) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435450)

yeah exactly... its called beta testing. Where you literally give it out to people and say this might not work... and if it doesnt tell us and we'll fix it.

Re:You can't make this stuff up. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22435644)

I work for Microsoft too and am not an Orange card. I avoid running Vista when I can. Period.

Re:You can't make this stuff up. (5, Funny)

Fred_A (10934) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435320)

They actually DO beta test their software, right??????????
They did test it in .au and even did a survey to see what people thought of it.
Oddly enough everybody thought it was the best thing since sliced bread.

Re:You can't make this stuff up. (0, Redundant)

Wowsers (1151731) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435390)

No, they don't beta test, YOU do ;-).

Re:You can't make this stuff up. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22435444)

People like you are just retarded. When Apple, FireFox, whatever has a problem it gets played down. When the slightest hint of a problem comes up with MS it's bla bla bla. You guys can say what you want, but this is why I look at slashdot less and less. I'm interested in news not a bunch of anti-MS stories blown out of proportion. Also, just for the record, I've been using Vista for two months now and haven't had any issues. I really don't understand what is causing all the horror stories since the accounts are either vauge or second/third hand accounts. Why doesn't Tacoboy just make another site called IdiotDot for people to spew nonsense about Microsoft and then we get back to talking about real things here without being interupted all the time?

Re:You can't make this stuff up. (4, Funny)

CSMatt (1175471) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435702)

You must be ne...

Oh wait. Never mind.

Taking a leaf out of apple's book? (5, Funny)

KublaiKhan (522918) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435110)

I know that they're said to have copied the concept of a GUI from apple (who, yes, stole it from PARC) but I didn't think Microsoft would follow the iBrick update also.

ROFLMAO (4, Informative)

Captain Splendid (673276) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435116)

About 10 minutes before this popped up, I got my first client call with this symptom.

Ahhh, Microsoft. Thank you for all the work you throw my way!

The only thing I can confirm so far is yep, Safe Mode don't work.

Re:ROFLMAO (4, Funny)

BoomerSooner (308737) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435336)

Has safe mode ever worked?

Re:ROFLMAO (5, Funny)

ari_j (90255) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435612)

Has safe mode ever worked?
Yes, but it was called DOS back then.

Re:ROFLMAO (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22435616)

So you got your first client call from a Vista SP1 Beta Tester did you? Because SP1 isn't being rolled out via Windows Update for a few weeks yet.

Just desserts? (-1, Flamebait)

mnslinky (1105103) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435120)

Well, you *did* download the update illegally off Bit Torrent. And it *is* a beta release.

And I'm supposed to feel sorry for you? If I was Microsoft, I'd just let you sit there and wait for a couple weeks.

Re:Just desserts? (2, Informative)

KublaiKhan (522918) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435150)

Incorrect. If you paid attention, it was rolled out via the automatic update.

This is clearly a botch by Microsoft, not something "illegally downloaded".

Re:Just desserts? (1)

Knuckles (8964) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435338)

Would someone please correct the obviously incorrect moderation of the parent post? Must have been either a clicko or an MS astroturfer. Parent said

Incorrect. If you paid attention, it was rolled out via the automatic update.

This is clearly a botch by Microsoft, not something "illegally downloaded".

Re:Just desserts? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22435440)

Would someone please correct the obviously incorrect moderation of the parent post? Must have been either a clicko or an MS astroturfer. Parent said Incorrect. If you paid attention, it was rolled out via the automatic update. This is clearly a botch by Microsoft, not something "illegally downloaded".
Not sure what you want corrected, but SP1 is most definitely not rolled out on Windows Update yet, that is planned for mid-March. Something we just a few stories ago were bashing MS to kingdom come for. So something is fishy with this story.

Re:Just desserts? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22435750)

Automatic update does not ship SP1 yet - its scheduled to be released sometimes in march via automatic update. The story is completely wrong and you might as well apple-astro-turfing.

Re:Just desserts? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22435410)

It hasn't begun rolling out via Automatic Update and the linked article is a forum post that refers to SP1 RC Refresh. RC Refresh is technically the same patch as SP1 but Microsoft has since releases pre-patches for SP1 which are rolling out via Automatic Updates - presumably to fix many of these issues.

So yeah - this story seems like bullshit and those parroting its claims need to remember that this is Slashdot - where facts are less important than a story tagged "haha".

Re:Just desserts? (2, Insightful)

mnslinky (1105103) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435162)

bah! -1 retard for me. I didn't RTFA before I posted. I didn't see the part that it was rolling out via Automatic Update.

I suck.

Re:Just desserts? (1)

milsoRgen (1016505) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435168)

Well, you *did* download the update illegally off Bit Torrent. And it *is* a beta release.
Is that a poor attempt at a joke? The summary states it is being rolled out via Automatic Update, which I'm assuming is Windows Update?

Re:Just desserts? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22435288)

Is that a poor attempt at a joke? The summary states it is being rolled out via Automatic Update, which I'm assuming is Windows Update?
It won't be on Windows Update before mid March. We were just bashing MS for that in another story here.

Re:Just desserts? (1)

Mushdot (943219) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435170)

They already are by the sounds of it :-)

Re:Just desserts? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22435254)

Huh? The summary indicates that the problem is happening in the release version of SP1, being delivered by automatic update. Who said anything about downloading a beta through BitTorrent?

And while we're at it, it "deserts", as in what you deserve, not "desserts". Nobody's talking about an after-dinner treat here!

SP1 prevents Vista from booting? (5, Funny)

goldspider (445116) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435126)

So in other words, it IS an improvement!

Re:SP1 prevents Vista from booting? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22435676)

SP2 will uninstall and install a XP pro with the name Vista Deja vu edition

Win a T-Shirt! (5, Funny)

140Mandak262Jamuna (970587) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435130)


Q: Vista SP1 gets locks up the machines after update.

A: [x] Fiction (wins a T-Shirt)
    [ ] Fact (truth but no T-Shirt to you bad boy.)

Re:Win a T-Shirt! (1)

milsoRgen (1016505) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435218)

Windows Vista won't truly be ready until the first complete Service Pack is released. Fact (Fiction)

their answers, not mine
Recycling is hip!

Re:Win a T-Shirt! (0, Redundant)

Midnight Thunder (17205) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435366)

Q: Vista SP1 gets locks up the machines after update.

A: [x] Fiction (wins a T-Shirt)
        [ ] Fact (truth but no T-Shirt to you bad boy.)


What? That issue looks like fact. Sure the machines are not technically locking up and are simply rebooting for ever, but their user is locked out of getting back to work.

Re:Win a T-Shirt! (2, Informative)

tsa (15680) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435478)

From OSX's `dictionary application:

sarcasm |särkazm|

noun

the use of irony to mock or convey contempt : his voice, hardened by sarcasm, could not hide his resentment. See note at wit .

ORIGIN mid 16th cent.: from French sarcasme, or via late Latin from late Greek sarkasmos, from Greek sarkazein 'tear flesh,' in late Greek 'gnash the teeth, speak bitterly' (from sarx, sark- 'flesh' ).

Re:Win a T-Shirt! (1)

berashith (222128) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435658)

Hi,
When opening slashdot for the first time every day, please scroll to the bottom first and at least glance through the headlines. This will make it easier to catch local humor and apply DUP tags as quickly as possible.
Thank you,
The management

Lucky! (2, Funny)

Grandiloquence (1180099) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435152)

They're lucky! When it finishes booting, it kicks your dog and sends kiddie porn to all the contacts in your address book!

That's odd (0, Redundant)

calebt3 (1098475) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435158)

If I don't do anything it restarts into Ubuntu. Gotta love GRUB.

Vista is imitating Apple Again! (4, Funny)

TrippTDF (513419) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435160)

this time, it's with "One Infinite Loop"

Re:Vista is imitating Apple Again! (1)

peragrin (659227) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435236)

odd I was thinking there was a goto joke in there.

Or a Vista counting problem. It couldn't figure out what comes after 0 so it couldn't move forward. After all if it takes 14 days to copy a gig of files one has to wonder about basic math inside of Vista.

Ye who lack faith (4, Funny)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435174)

Eventually the loop will stop, and the installation will complete. But only if you BELIEVE!

Re:Ye who lack faith (1)

youthoftoday (975074) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435314)

that's a very Apple

Re:Ye who lack faith (1)

Moonpie Madness (764217) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435422)

I can't tell you how many times I used to allow broken loops to run, hoping and hoping and pleading that it would work. And sometimes it did.

Computers don't really have that clunky feel anymore, and we're leaving the "hot-rod" modder age that was kinda akin to 60's and 70s muscle cars. Laptops are more like the newer less modable cars, so the OS is the only opportunity I get to have these fun experiences!

yay

Re:Ye who lack faith (2, Informative)

MBGMorden (803437) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435826)

The impatience of users annoys me too sometimes. In particular, I'm convinced that they believe that any prompt that appears will somehow physically injure them if left open for more than 3 seconds.

ANYTHING that pops up with the words "Yes", "OK", "Next", or "Finish" gets clicked with lightning speed as if they were playing a game of whack-a-mole. I even had one instance where I was doing training, and the software program would give a confirmation number that the user was supposed to write down for their records. Even after TELLING them to NOT just click the next dialog box, out of a group of 10 people, a few seconds later when the prompt appears 3 people responded almost immediately with "Oh sorry I clicked it . . .".

Re:Ye who lack faith (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22435426)

Thanks for a really good laugh.

One possible solution ... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22435178)

Good opportunity to upgrade to XP?

Or, dare I say it, Linux?

Re:One possible solution ... (1, Offtopic)

milsoRgen (1016505) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435270)

If games, XP. Else, Linux.

No problems here (1)

Marin3 (988561) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435180)

I had no issues about the SP1 except the 3 reboots required...

Regression testing, people (4, Insightful)

plopez (54068) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435186)

Seriously, sounds like a version issue. An SCM (Software Configuration Management). Seriously, I worked for smaller companies that were serious about versioning and regression testing. Is it my imagination or does MS seem more and more like a software organization that is out of control?

Re:Regression testing, people (4, Funny)

porkThreeWays (895269) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435252)

Seriously guys, seriously.

Re:Regression testing, people (5, Insightful)

cliffski (65094) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435274)

more likely they are a software company rolling out tens of millions of copies of an O/S onto completely random hardware. I'd be amazed if there were not a few problems.

Re:Regression testing, people (4, Interesting)

BUL2294 (1081735) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435642)

Bullshit... The amount of hardware variability has declined over the past 15-odd years due to consolidation and Microsoft's insistence...

* How many CPU makers are out there today? 2. (Transmeta is dead).
* How many companies make chipsets (north/southbridges) today? 4(?)
* GPU makers? 3.
* BIOS vendors? 3(?)
* Sound cards? 2 (Intel & Creative)
* Expansion interfaces? 2 (PCI, PCI-Express)

Now, look back to 1993-1995. How many no-name brand BIOSes caused problems? How many brands of VGA chipsets were there? CPU makers? (Think Intel, AMD, Cyrix, NexGen, C&T,...) How many expansion interfaces were there (ISA, VLB, PCI, MCA). How many brands had their own incompatible hardware, where Microsoft's HIMEM.SYS had special switches for (AST, Everex, IBM PS/2, etc.) All of these worked well with DOS/Win3.x and Win95.

No, this is Microsoft's way of saying "we don't know what's wrong with Vista!"

Re:Regression testing, people (2, Funny)

SanityInAnarchy (655584) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435280)

It's your imagination if they ever seemed like they were IN control.

Re:Regression testing, people (2, Funny)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435376)

Is it my imagination or does MS seem more and more like a software organization that is out of control?

The problem is clearly your imagination. MS has a complete and total grasp on the situation. Their sales rep told me so.

Re:Regression testing, people (5, Interesting)

tlhIngan (30335) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435456)

Seriously, sounds like a version issue. An SCM (Software Configuration Management). Seriously, I worked for smaller companies that were serious about versioning and regression testing. Is it my imagination or does MS seem more and more like a software organization that is out of control?


It appears that each little division of Microsoft is their own little fiefdom. Take a common DLL - comctl32.dll (common controls). Windows ships with one version. Office ships with another version. Applications (using Visual Studio Redistributables) ship with a third version! Each has features that aren't in the others, so Windows apps get one look, Office another look, and 3rd party apps yet another look.

In addition, the OS team forked the compiler they use from the development team. It makes sense in one aspect - all developers have a stable toolchain. However, if the dev team breaks something, instead of the Windows team making a big stink, people who use Visual Studio do.

As far as anyone's concerned, Microsoft might as well be split up into separate companies - they more or less act that way anyhow. Code's taken from one team and forked, improvements aren't folded back in, etc.

Re:Regression testing, people (1)

Sockatume (732728) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435664)

One has to wonder why they call it "common controls" in the first place. Seeing Vista and Office consolidate their interfaces internally but not between eachother was a bewildering moment for me. And then there's Media Player, which is a bit of both...

Re:Regression testing, people (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22435482)

Yeah, good luck trying to do configuration management when you don't control the hardware, or any of the other software that is installed, and you have an install base of tens of millions. Any regression testing you do will only be representative of a few percent of configurations out there. You then are forced to extrapolate out to the rest, and not surprisingly, you miss.

Even Apple, who has a lot more control over the platform than Microsoft, has this problem. The OS X 10.5 upgrade hosed some people's machines because they had installed weird third party OS hacks. You can say that is the users fault, but it still adds to the negative chatter on the Web. These SP1 failures could be the same sort of thing. We'll never know.

It's not on windows update (5, Informative)

Megor1 (621918) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435192)

You can't download SP1 yet from Microsoft, in fact its not due out for weeks...

Re:It's not on windows update (5, Insightful)

nicklott (533496) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435518)

Who modded this Offtopic? The summary says "which began rolling out via Automatic Update", which is just wrong. Admittedly they might want to have caught this a touch earlier, but it's not public yet, nevermind auto updating people's machines. OSS FUD I say...

Re:It's not on windows update (4, Interesting)

nicklott (533496) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435634)

In fact, all the posts to the thread in the article were made after this article was posted to slashdot and by posters with a post count of 1. They talk about SP1 on auto-update (which the original post didn't) yet that can't possibly be true because that's not the case. And oh look, echostormfury is one of the posters, could he perchance be related to the Echostorm who posted the story? I smell bullshit...

doh (1)

nicklott (533496) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435796)

In fact, all the posts to the thread in the article were made after this article was posted
should have been

In fact, all the posts to the thread in the article that mentioned auto update were made after this article was posted

Re:It's not on windows update (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22435614)

You can't download SP1 yet from Microsoft, in fact its not due out for weeks...
To reduce the load on their servers, Vista SP1 was released via virus (or "friendly worm" [slashdot.org] ). That's why it's not available for direct download from Microsoft.

That should show that you never (0, Troll)

christrs (187044) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435194)

give control to an auto-updating system blindly. Never trust someone else to have an update that will work with your system. Otherwise be prepared to live with a brick until you restore your computer (you do have backups - right?)

Re:That should show that you never (2, Insightful)

SanityInAnarchy (655584) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435324)

That's a dillution of the term "brick", and it's also not true. Except in the case of a really destructive update (as in, corrupts the FS or similar), if an update ever renders my Linux unbootable, I'll just pop in the install CD and use it to roll back the changes.

Certainly not what I'd call an "easy" process -- easy for me, maybe -- but it's by no means a brick.

Vista SP1 isn't public yet, unless you pirate it. (5, Informative)

Coopjust (872796) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435576)

Vista SP1 isn't available publicly yet, unless you hop on The Pirate Bay.

Microsoft placed 6 weeks between code finalization and public release for 6 weeks of driver testing; some drivers were not properly written, and MS wanted to work with hardware manufacturers/OEMs to find hardware with problems. Everyone bitched about how technical users should get it early.

Then these same people download SP1 from an unauthorized source, and bitch when it breaks their system. They downloaded an update without letting Microsoft work the kinks out, and they didn't get the update from MS. No automatic download was involved in this.

Re:That should show that you never (1)

necrogram (675897) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435728)

SP1 isnt available till March. the only way you're going to get machines auto-updating with SP1 is aome jack ass admin imported the beta SP into WSUS/SMS/Whatever. A legit SP1 RTM build isnt publicly available. I'm just gonna sit back and laugh at the poor bastards.

Don't Panic!!!! (4, Funny)

molex333 (1230136) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435214)

Microsoft will be releasing a worm to fix this problem early next week!

Re:Don't Panic!!!! (1)

linumax (910946) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435310)

Thank god my machine doesn't boot, otherwise Norton Antivirus would have stopped the worm fix!

Typical (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22435222)

This is the best service pack yet! It makes window$ user switch to something better.

Brick?!? (4, Funny)

gardyloo (512791) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435246)

I'm sorry. I can't believe I read a summary about a computer problem without it being called "bricking". What the hell is wrong with the world?!?

Re:Brick?!? (1)

Oxy the moron (770724) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435446)

Well, It's Not totally a brick... ThiS could be as good Time A time as you'LL get to Loosen up, Indulge your iNner geek, and Upgrade to something better by niXing Windows altogether...

insert Nelson-laugh here (-1, Troll)

Wolfger (96957) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435250)

That's what people get for trusting a greedy lying monopoly with their computer systems...

Quick Fix! (1)

CaptScarlet22 (585291) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435284)

Format Hardrive and reinstall OS...That seemed to solve my problems...

Re:Quick Fix! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22435586)

Hopefully with a better OS. ;)

Same thing happened for me with 10.5.2 (0, Offtopic)

copponex (13876) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435306)

I upgraded to 10.5.2 last week... not sure what went wrong. Machine rebooted, and after providing my user name and password, it would go blue (the color of my desktop) for about a second, and then kick me back to the login screen. I booted into safe mood, booted off the Leopard disk and repaired permissions, repaired disk, reset the password, and that didn't work.

Then I did a clean Leopard install, and imported the user settings from my Time Machine backup (so I wouldn't have to manually reinstall all of my programs). Same thing happened, so I was forced to repave my laptop and reinstall all of my applications.

I'm just putting this out there to silence all of the anti-microsoft folks. A few users get screwed when an OS is updated, that's always been the case.

Oh, I did try to put Ubuntu on there between Leopard installs. Everything installed without issue, except the wireless performance was dismal (as in three minutes to load Google, timing out on everything else), and I couldn't get the VESA drivers to recognize the laptop resolution, and I couldn't get the proprietary ATI drivers to work with Compiz. It's very, very, close though. (On a side note, the Leopard disk utility is incapable of partitioning once Linux has been installed, so I had to nuke the partitions with the ubuntu installer before Leopard would successfully partition without the error: Resource Busy.)

Re:Same thing happened for me with 10.5.2 (1)

Amarantine (1100187) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435710)

I had the same issue with an earlier update of Leopard.

Fortunately I had a second computer nearby to look up the issue before reinstalling the entire thing. Check out http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306998 [apple.com] , appearantly it happens more often when updates aren't completely installed. The solution seemed so simple, yet it fixed my problem.

Still a nasty bug that shouldn't be there, and i'm sure there are more than a few people out there who went looking for their OS X installation discs while cursing themselves for making fun of Windows users...

massjunk@gmail.com email me if you dont like vista (-1, Offtopic)

massjunk956 (1237948) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435350)

massjunk@gmail.com - spam me if you don't like vista

massjunk@gmail.com - spam me if you don't like vista

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A RC Refresh through Windows Update (2, Informative)

soilheart (1081051) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435354)

Well. If you read the first forum post that person states that he used the Refresh RC... And my windows update doesn't tell me anything about any updates. If it's one of those preSP updates I can understand, but why doesn't you say so then...

Re:A RC Refresh through Windows Update (3, Informative)

soilheart (1081051) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435438)

Reading a little more of the forum confirms my theory about it mostly being the Refresh RC 2 ("Which should be the same as the RTM").
I havn't found a single thread about someone saying anything about windows update.

Sounds like a fix (0, Redundant)

zakeria (1031430) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435374)

to me, removing vista from a users computer is the best thing Microsoft has offered thus far!!!

For those who say "Get a Mac" (5, Interesting)

Radhruin (875377) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435430)

Something similar happened [slashdot.org] with the 10.4.11 update as well.

That's some keen fucking reporting (5, Informative)

sharkey (16670) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435468)

Echostorm writes with word that Windows Vista SP1, which began rolling out via Automatic Update, has left some users' machines unbootable.

A forum post from last month about issues with the Vista SP1 Release Candidate (prerelease code, just to let Echostorm know). SP1 does not go out via auto updates until next month, and is only officially available to select system builders and beta testers now.

It's unclear how many users are affected.

I counted 5, including the guy who yanked his power cable and trashed his filesystem.

So far there is no word on a fix from Microsoft.

It might possibly be fixed in the RTM version of SP1. Who knows? Certainly not Echostorm, who is having a poopie because he hosed his own PC and is trying to drum up a whine-fest about it. Definitely not kdawson either, who posted this because, well, it's kdawson.

This is taking slashvertisments to the preschool tantrum level.

Re:That's some keen fucking reporting (1)

Dude McDude (938516) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435650)

Good post. The original summary is a classic example of anti-MS FUD that pollutes Slashdot on a regular basis.

Is there anyone really surprised by this? (1)

flashfire (74439) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435472)

Microsoft is very much a market driven company; the marketing department is the driving force for all of M$ projects. While this can be very good for profit margins, its not so good for the poor engineers. With M$ software development model, the test engineers some times get a build a day that they have to test, and they are very dependent on other M$ product to speed up those tests by creating testing scripts. The only problem is that when you are testing software with a product that maybe faulty; what do you expect to get? M$ need to slow down the marketing department, and allow the engineers to do their job.

BRILLIANT!!! (1)

t33jster (1239616) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435474)

It's unclear how many users are affected.

Obviously, because these poor souls can't even get their PC's started, let alone post on /.

This is a fantastic way to cut your support costs. Squeaky wheels only get grease if you can hear them in the first place.

Funny beyond belief (1)

iminplaya (723125) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435484)

Oh well, thank goodness for live CDs and the recovery partition.

Microsoft announced a fix. (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22435494)

Download the files and follow the steps found on the following website.

www.ubuntu.org

you will not only have the same Vista experience but you also can enjoy the removed DRM.

Repair disk fixes vista problem (4, Funny)

BroadbandBradley (237267) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435496)

you can download a disk image, boot from the disk, and start being productive. It's a proven fix that worked for me.

Vista Repair Disk [kernel.org]

I used it as soon as I started having problems with Vista on a new work computer and it's been smooth sailing ever since.
 

Somewhat reminds me. . . (4, Funny)

smooth wombat (796938) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435570)

of the situation years ago when a patch went that killed ones network connection. The solution from Microsoft? Download a new patch to correct the situation.

Um, yeah.

2009! (1)

PinkyDead (862370) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435602)

"The year of Windows on the Desktop."

Trolly, but true.

Re:2009! (1)

Vexorian (959249) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435808)

heck, the year windows detects my hardware without me having to keep all my CDs or at least the year I wouldn't have to use the recovery console every once in three months, will be the year on windows on the desktop.

I call Shenanigans (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22435628)

Since Vista SP1 isn't even being deployed via Windows Update until next month, this whole story reeks of BS...

Re:I call Shenanigans (1)

Dude McDude (938516) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435720)

this whole story reeks of BS...
It was posted by kdawson; your nose is working well.

Popping Sound (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22435746)

I tried the Service Pack. It left me with a machine that looked exactly the same but now made poping noises. I did not really notice a big drive speed improvment. There did seem to me some sharper quality to the screen but that was about it. The poping sound which seems related to manipulating the mouse over windows drove me nuts so I rolled back. If I had to guess it was either trying to make a sound and failing or for some reason the driver was dropping out.

Wrong title? (1)

mrg17 (36780) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435810)

The linked thread seems to be about the updates issued to enable SP1 rather than sp1 itself.

interesting (1)

SP33doh (930735) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435812)

when I installed the leak I got stage 3, stage 3 (0%), stage 1, stage 2, stage 3, then everything worked fine.
did the same thing happen for everybody? or is this installation just awesome

what, not "bricked"? (1)

Scudsucker (17617) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435822)

I'm surprised to see about a Slashdot story on software making problems for hardware that doesn't use the word "bricked".

Um, people... (1)

Knara (9377) | more than 6 years ago | (#22435828)

Vista SP1 isn't officially released yet, nor is it coming down by automatic updates.

So... why is this story about unreleased software trashing people's systems that they're stupid enough to install software that isn't RTM code being considered news?

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