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Alienware Planning Android iPhone Killer?

CmdrTaco posted more than 6 years ago | from the competition-means-better dept.

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meteorit found a story about rumors of an Alienware phone based on Google's Android phone OS. As Dell has a history of bombing with handhelds, it would be interesting to try the Alienware brand instead. And I'm not exactly sure where they get off claiming that their drawings are the first pictures of the thing. Cheesy renderings designed explicitly for your website are not quite pictures of a product... they are artists impressions.

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Anyone else think... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22445096)

...this thing looks more like a creepy, Gigeresque sex toy than a phone? Sil [wikipedia.org] would be pleased.

Re:Anyone else think... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22445188)

This looks like a cheap POS, look at how much space is wasted by that grill. There's absolutely NO way this is an iPhone killer, this looks more like some kids first phone that they are going to glue plastic beads to or put .25 cent vending machine stickers on. There's no QWERTY keyboard, and the screen on the phone uses no more than 1/3rd of the phone's realestate. No one is going to be sending e-mail back and forth on it, no one is going to be texting with this thing, and enterprise corporations arent going to buy batches of 30,000 of these to hand out to their sales staff. I can see it being used as a MP3 player, but at best I see this being marketed as a kids first phone.

But (1)

Mateo_LeFou (859634) | more than 6 years ago | (#22447484)

But it only takes one of those things to destroy the Cybermen

Re:Anyone else think... (3, Insightful)

MikeUW (999162) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445284)

Based on these fictional images, it looks like this thing will just be uncomfortable in general. The grill things will probably break at some point too, and AC mentions, waste space. I don't see how this thing has anything to do with the iPhone. The fact that it will be based on Android is somewhat cool. But otherwise it's physical design/functionally looks like just about every other modern cellphone, and as I understand it, the physical design/UI is what really makes the iPhone most distinctive.

Re:Anyone else think... (4, Informative)

Vexorian (959249) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445394)

If I understand it these are just rumors and the images are all invented and not from alienware itself, in fact it looks like it is more of a CNP of the alien ware case to look like a cell phone...

Re:Anyone else think... (2, Insightful)

i4u (234028) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445804)

exactly it is just a rumor without a source and fake photos. congrats to the webmaster on getting this story slashdotted. Oh, have you heard about the Coca Cola iPhone killer? It looks like a soda can.

Re:Anyone else think... (1)

lastchance_000 (847415) | more than 6 years ago | (#22446986)

It's not even a rumor, it's somebody saying "Hey, wouldn't this be coooool!"

Re:Anyone else think... (3, Insightful)

frdmfghtr (603968) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445614)

I don't see how this thing has anything to do with the iPhone.
That's because it doesn't have anything to do with the iPhone. The iPhone isn't even mentioned in the linked article.

However, "iPhone" in the headline attracts more attention.

Re:Anyone else think... (4, Funny)

ATL_gadget_grrl (1122351) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445492)

I defy you to find me one woman who would carry that thing...

Re:Anyone else think... (4, Funny)

Provocateur (133110) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445640)

You posting on /., you could still shorten that to

I defy you to find me one woman.

No, it's the Dethphone from Metalocalyplse (1)

Dr. Spork (142693) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445890)

And free minutes will start at 11pm. It's brutal.

Re:Anyone else think... (1)

Kaeluka (1182731) | more than 6 years ago | (#22446626)

This looks like ritual dagger from outer space.

If looks could kill... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22445104)

The iphone would be a goner.

iPhone killer? (3, Insightful)

timeOday (582209) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445106)

I don't think the iPhone has attained the status that any new smartphone must be considered a competitor first and foremost to it. Especially when, as in this case, it's a completely different styling concept. I do see iPhones here and there, but by far most people still use other cellphones, so I do not think the iPhone merits a reference in the title of every story about cellphones.

Re:iPhone killer? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22445242)

Spoken like one of the poor saps who yet do not know the erotic pleasures of owning an iPhone.

Re:iPhone killer? (4, Funny)

hitmark (640295) | more than 6 years ago | (#22446026)

erotic? remind me to never borrow a phone from you...

Re:iPhone killer? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22446230)

... well there's no real keypad to get sticky. It just wipes right off.

Re:iPhone killer? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22446376)

An iPhone is better in some ways:

1: You can't get a disease from an iPhone.
2: An iPhone is always turned on.
3: An iPhone always looks good, even at 7am in the morning when you have a hangover.
4: Nobody cares if you manipulate your iPhone in public.
5: An iPhone is always popular.
6: An iPhone always makes you look like you are a cool cat.
7: Meeting an iPhone's "friends" (such as a Macbook) is always a good thing.

Re:iPhone killer? (5, Insightful)

jacksonj04 (800021) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445288)

I was just wondering that myself. Other points, from the article:

It would have the striking design to make an impression in a mobile market dominated by fashion phones...
Eh? It looks like something you get free in a cereal packet. Wasting half the form factor on a pointless grille != good design.

...it would instantly be the coolest phone on the market thanks to the popularity of the Alienware brand...
No, it would be bought by a few die-hard Alienware fanatics who don't mind trading features for silly design. It looks like it's got relief details on that fascia, they snag in your pocket. This is not a cool design, no matter how many blinky lights it has.

...it would have the marketing muscle of Dell behind it to push it beyond its established niche and into the mainstream...
It would have to play on the Alienware brand which at the moment, at least in tech circles, has connotations of overpricing. For Joe Public, I doubt they would see the point in this phone because it would have the 'Gaming' association of Alienware.

...and it would be the mobile gamer's dream, just as video gaming on mobile phones is starting to enter the picture.
I don't know how they work this out. Video gaming on mobile phones isn't starting to enter the picture at all, because most people only want their phones to play idle games of Snake on at most. Hardcore mobile gamers would want something easy to play on, the design of this doesn't look to offer much hope of that. More intense gamers wouldn't care for the tiny screen and poor quality graphics, and to make it even stand a chance at reasonable gaming it would sacrifice loads of battery. Perhaps that's why it has the grille, it's to fit a huge battery pack behind.

Re:iPhone killer? (1)

STrinity (723872) | more than 6 years ago | (#22446364)

And then there's this bit:

The increasingly dull associations with the Dell brand? Maybe they should change their name to Dull.


If you're the sort of retard who thinks a custom built case that looks like a silly alien is |3\/\/1, sure. But if you're the sort of person who buys computers based on reliability and capabilities, Dell is a great brand. I'd rather have a plain-jane cell phone that's reliable, than some overpriced flanged monstrosity that looks like it was designed by a pimply-faced 13 year old boy who spends more time playing D&D than fantasizing about girls.

Re:iPhone killer? (5, Funny)

aplusjimages (939458) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445388)

I think they mean it's literally an iPhone killer. You see this isn't just an ordinary phone. It's what a ninja would be if it were a phone. These ninja-phones, if you will, act as your everyday phone, but when in close proximity to an iPhone the ninja-phone transforms into a ninja star or katana and literally kills the iPhone and it's owner. So you see it is the iPhone killer.

Re:iPhone killer? (1)

Professor_UNIX (867045) | more than 6 years ago | (#22446032)

You don't have an iPhone do you? Poor SOB. Someday you will... just keep saving your pennies and you will know the glory of the iPhone.

Re:iPhone killer? (1)

timeOday (582209) | more than 6 years ago | (#22446358)

Actually I don't even have a cellphone. My wife does have a tracfone which I ocassionally borrow. I just don't like talking on the phone all that much, and fortunately my job is not such that I need to be interruptible all the time.

Re:iPhone killer? (5, Insightful)

johnpaul191 (240105) | more than 6 years ago | (#22446586)

The iPhone is important because it made the smartphone concept mainstream. Tech nerds aside, before the iPhone it was common to see business people with Blackberries. There was some sort of stigma from that masses that they could never escape the office because they were always in touch. The iPhone somehow succeeded where Palm failed to..... make a smart phone seem really freakin useful and fun. Let's face it, Palm took the basic handheld they have been selling for 10+ years and added a phone to it. Windows Mobil phones are just Microsoft's version of that, and again often an extension of the office. The iPhone may have the best mobile browser out there, and that matters. I can't tell you how many times we will be out to dinner and randomly want to look something up online. It's always the iPhone that has the best browsing results.

I know a lot of people that freelance, and want/need email and some sort of web access in their pocket. The Treo still seems to dominate that world, but maybe it will change? These are people picking out their own phones and paying for their own plans, not issued by work.
*Most* iPhone owners i know are new to a smartphone. The second biggest group are people that upgraded from a Treo.

I write this as a Treo owner, and a Mac user.... but if the iPhone was CDMA, i would probably own one. The iPhone's Safari is the app i want more than anything. Having a Verizon/BREW Treo it does not seem like i have 3rd party options for browsers that are anywhere near Safari (operamini doesn't run on my phone).

Re:iPhone killer? (3, Interesting)

Skruggs (838610) | more than 6 years ago | (#22446634)

I couldn't disagree more... I see iPhones EVERYWHERE and given the amount of talking people do about them, I think it's fair to say it's the ONLY thing people currently compare against. Palm? Dead. RIM? Alive but really a totally different market. Symbian? Boring. Windows Mobile? DOA. The proof to me was last week on an airplane to California. In a row of 5 seats, 4 of the row occupants had iPhones out during the flight (including me)

yawn (0)

v1 (525388) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445112)

look out here come the ipod killers!

(pause)

ok... look out here come the iphone killers!

Proof? (1)

Noxzoul (1140823) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445132)

Looks to me like this guy is talking out his ass about the entire Alienware thing.

Re:Proof? (2, Insightful)

p0tat03 (985078) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445266)

Not to mention Alie nware can't make a cell phone if it meant their life. They can barely make laptops (the build quality isn't very good), and their case designs are generics from Asian suppliers, modified slightly to give it that distinct Alienware style at the top. I don't believe they have the engineering expertise to build a mobile system from the ground up - not when their status is merely a (substandard quality, overpriced) systems integrator.

Hell, the iPhone's only *real* advantage is its incredibly slick and easy UI. That Alienphone concept has a UI that looks convoluted enough that even a techie like myself will get lost.

Re:Proof? (2, Interesting)

usrusr (654450) | more than 6 years ago | (#22446066)

Alienware couldn't, but Dell could. And besides, they could do exactly the same thing with phones they do with cheap computer cases, china has plenty of noname gadgets makers that can supply "phone blanks". It still does not matter at all, because Alienware as a brand does not really exist outside of the basements of a few rich parents. In comparison to Alienware, Apple is mainstream. And in the market of mobile phones, even Apple is still midget, despite of the biggest hype ever made around a piece of electronics and even a few serious technical merits.

Re:Proof? (2, Insightful)

p0tat03 (985078) | more than 6 years ago | (#22446140)

I think mobile consumers have proven themselves savvy enough not to buy substandard "phone blank" devices. Why is Motorola in the rut they are in now? Well, years of making substandard devices (hardware quality was fine, software was not) that had no ergonomics physically nor mentally. They thought they could ride on their brand (which at one time was THE most powerful in the market) with mediocre phones. Consumers knew better.

For anyone to break into, or even survive in, the mobile market, they need to bring to the table something amazing, either by offering unprecedented feature sets, or simply making the gadget slick and stylish. A "blank phone" would accomplish neither of those things.

In the end, any serious competitor in this market is going to have to spend a LOT of money building their phones, no corner may be cut.

Foul looking device... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22445146)

Yeay, just what the world needs, a 4 tone mobile phone with four seconds of battery life and dedicated cooling system, that can just about play Doom II.

(Yeay, I'm a little upset with my £2.5k ($5k) Alienware laptop.)

moral of this article (2, Informative)

Coraon (1080675) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445166)

1. liquid nitrogen very cool 2. fire very not cool 3. alienware cool 4. dell not cool 5. slashdot always cool

errr.... (0, Troll)

weeeeed (675324) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445216)

That rendering is the most ugly shit i've seen in years. It does not even look close to anything i'd want to get even for free. I wish you teenage fanbois could just shut up and go back to your mamas basement to tune your shitty alien dells.

Eat up Martha (3, Insightful)

0xdeadbeef (28836) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445228)

As Dell has a history of bombing with handhelds

So does Apple, fool.

iPhones not "the" phone to beat (3, Insightful)

webmaster404 (1148909) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445246)

I really don't think that now the iPhone is the phone to beat. Most people I know have a RAZR or similar, while they would like an iPhone as most people would, the $600 price tag plus dealing with AT&T makes them not buy one.

Re:iPhones not "the" phone to beat (2, Interesting)

Tony Hoyle (11698) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445438)

It could become so though.

The ipod wasn't the mp3 player to beat for years... at the beginning it was OSX only, then it got windows compatibility but was still a hideously expensive geek toy. That's about where the iphone is now. Look what happened - It got colour, it got video, the design was refined, it got more capacity, then followed the ipod mini(? forgot its title), nano, etc. all came out, the price plummeted then everyone got one.

Following the same track - get 3G, more capacity, decent camera, maybe an iphone nano on PAYT for half the price, etc. and it'll take off. Apple know how to make a phone UI (compared to Symbian, which is a bit of a trainwreck, it's not got a lot of competition on that front). Might take a few years... but it's not beyond possbility.

Re:iPhones not "the" phone to beat (1)

smilindog2000 (907665) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445558)

I fully agree. The cell industry has had it's ass so far up there for so long, it took Steve Jobs to show them how screwed up they are. The only threat IMO to Apple dominating smart cell phones the way they dominated music players is Google's Android, which currently is far far behind, and Steve Jobs keeping his head in his own ass to boot. Steve can make an advanced and desirable product, but he can't compete against open platforms any better than he competes against Windows/IBM PCs. If Google offers a native devkit (which they currently do not), and Jobs continues to be hostile to native app developers, eventually the iPhone line will be nothing but pretty, high-end low-feature stuff, just like his Macs. It'll be Mac vs Wintel all over again.

The reason Jobs kicks butt in music players is that it's low-end stuff, where we can't build open platforms to compete against him.

Re:iPhones not "the" phone to beat (0, Flamebait)

macs4all (973270) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445886)

'and Jobs continues to be hostile to native app developers..'

Hey, fuckface! Quit spreading FUD!

Or, I guess you didn't hear: 'Jobs' announced an Apple-approved SDK for the iPhone/iPod Touch to be released, um, THIS MONTH about FOUR MONTHS AGO [tuaw.com] .

Stupid Git.

Re:iPhones not "the" phone to beat (1)

Nixoloco (675549) | more than 6 years ago | (#22446070)

pretty, high-end low-feature stuff, just like his Macs.
My MacBook Pro that runs Windows, Linux, & OSX along with all of their applications, plus it has Firewire 400/800, 802.11abgn, USB2, an amazing screen, backlit keyboard, dual link DVI, etc etc and is half the size of other laptops strongly disagrees with you regarding the low-feature comment. But I will agree that it is very pretty.

revisionist history (2, Insightful)

Scudsucker (17617) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445936)

The ipod wasn't the mp3 player to beat for years...

Uh, no - the iPod was the player to beat the day it was announced. It was the first player to use 5 gigabyte 1.8" hard drives while everything else used tiny amounts of flash memory or used big and heavy desktop hard drives. It also used a 400 Mpbs Firewire interface while everything else used 11 Mbps Usb 1.1 or even parallel. Combine that with a good interface and good integration and you had a product that was far ahead of the competition.

Now everything uses USB 2.0 and the same storage media, so there is little difference in the physical size/capacity anymore, but that wasn't the case to begin with.

Re:revisionist history (1)

Tony Hoyle (11698) | more than 6 years ago | (#22446900)

It also cost about $1000, worked only with Macbooks which were far more niche than they are today (hell, back then the average person on the street hadn't even heard of apple).. itunes was little more than a list of music - no store or anything like that. Truly, they sucked compared to the $100 mp3 players of the time.. and capacity didn't make up for it. I only ever saw one of them in the wild.. and it was 2 years after that before I heard the ipod name again.

Only a true fanboy would believe that the other mp3 (and minidisc, which was huge back then) manufacturers even gave a shit about the ipod back then, let alone thought it was the thing to beat.

Re:revisionist history (1)

MightyYar (622222) | more than 6 years ago | (#22447320)

I *think* that you are joking, but it's hard to tell. The iPod cost $400, not $1000 - and even back then, Apple was one of the most recognized brands in the world. iPods completely dominated the market as soon as they were released for Windows. The only thing even close was the jukebox, and it used a full-sized laptop hard drive. The $100 players of the day could only hold a few songs, so most people carried around CD players.

Toshiba (the Zune's forefather) would have been some good competition if they hadn't hobbled their unit so badly with encryption, which made it transfer songs at USB 1.1 speeds even though it supported USB 2.0.

Re:revisionist history (1)

Graymalkin (13732) | more than 6 years ago | (#22447362)

The iPod was only $399 when it was released in October of 2001. While they initially only worked with Macs support for Windows was added in July of 2002 through MusicMatch Jukebox. The flash based players of the time were only slightly cheaper than the iPod's initial $399 price and held an order of magnitude fewer songs. It's a bit of revisionist history to suggest that the iPod didn't gain a lot of attention right out of the box. The iPod sold more than a quarter million units in its first year and nabbed about 7.1% of the PMP market [businessweek.com] after only six months. That's 0% to 7% in six months. To suggest the iPod wasn't a big deal is kind of silly. I know you're trolling but try to sound believable.

Re:iPhones not "the" phone to beat (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22445466)

I would I thought the phone to beat at the moment was Blackberry. The foul little lumps of crap might be well foul lumps of crap but buisness loves them.

Re:iPhones not "the" phone to beat (1)

macs4all (973270) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445816)

Um, iPhones are $400, not $600, moron. Even the brand-new 16GB model is only $500.

Or are you submitting comments from the past, before the price drop [gizmodo.com] over five months ago?

Re:iPhones not "the" phone to beat (1)

rukidding (931503) | more than 6 years ago | (#22446126)

I agree that the IPhone is not the dominate cell phone in the over all cell phone market, but when it comes to cell phones that utilize the internet, the IPhone is by far the market leader.

This past Thursday an Apple Insider reports that "Google on Wednesday said it has seen 50 times more search requests coming from Apple iPhones than any other mobile handset -- a revelation so astonishing that the company originally suspected it had made an error culling its own data."

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/02/14/google_iphone_usage_shocks_search_giant.html/ [appleinsider.com]

These are huge numbers.

Yet another Killer (5, Informative)

tigheig (546423) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445248)

If you read TFA you find that it's not even a rumor, it's entirely speculation based on the purchase of Alienware by Dell. It states that the argument for the Alienware phone is "overwhelming" based on the fact that the author thinks that Alienware is cool and is well known outside of us build-it-yourself PC geeks. TFA is accompanied by something labeled "First Pictures of Alienware Android Cell Phone" that is actually a GIF mockup drawn by a staff artist based on what they'd like it to look like. So now the Slashdot "killer" label is being applied to products that not only don't exist yet, but for which there's no objective evidence that anyone is even thinking about. Can we retire the "killer" now? It's become parody.

Re:Yet another Killer (1)

usrusr (654450) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445314)

looks more like a GIF mockup drawn by an unsupervised intern than like a GIF mockup drawn by a staff artist.

The author is the biggest pussy... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22445252)

and that phone looks like the huge stinky turd that I just birthed while checking slashdot. God bless wireless internet!

Butt Ugly (5, Insightful)

Telvin_3d (855514) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445258)

That may be the ugliest piece of hardware I have ever laid my eyes on.

As for an iPhone killer? Why is everything these days an iPhone killer? This abomination does not compete with the iPhone in any way. Completely different design (if you can call it that) aesthetic. It's not based on a touch screen. Any mention of an iPhone killer exists only to drive people to the site so they can have a look. If the title was 'Dell subsidy designs cellphone, beats it with ugly stick' they would not get as much traffic.

Re:Butt Ugly (1)

Spunkemeyer (805072) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445318)

I have a hard time believing that anyone would be looking at that thing, and the iPhone, and seriously trying to choose between the two of them. That looks like the complete opposite of what the iPhone tries to achieve. They might as well go all-out and put a "Type RS" racer sticker on it. At this point, why be subtle about it?

This will destroy the iphone... (3, Funny)

malevolentjelly (1057140) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445390)

...in the market of "13 year old boy's imaginations".

I was thinking maybe they should add something that looks like a jet intake, a sub-woofer, some neon underglow, flame stickers on the side, and maybe some spinnaz.

I am pre-emptively naming it the Dell Alienware AREA 51 EXXTREME XENOMORPH. Its default ring tone would be "Crawling in my skin" by Linkin Park. I hope it has Myspace Mobile.

Re:Butt Ugly (1)

Gordonjcp (186804) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445344)

As for an iPhone killer? Why is everything these days an iPhone killer? This abomination does not compete with the iPhone in any way.

I think what they mean is:
1) place iPhone on desk
2) hammer iPhone to death with Alienware phone
3) ...?
4) sweep up the mess

I can't see where "Profit!!!" fits in here.

Re:Butt Ugly (1)

Jaktar (975138) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445674)

Why is everything these days an iPhone killer?

Because you can't get people to click on your page if you say "here's a cool phone idea". People are sheep. If you tell them that product X is better than product Y, many will take time to look at it. Then, in the end, they'll just end up buying what they're told to buy.

bombing? (3, Insightful)

llZENll (545605) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445260)

"Dell has a history of bombing with handhelds"

The Dell Axim series was one of the most popular Pocket PCs in history, I would bet they sold several times more Axims than Apple has sold iPhones.

The highest powered Axims released in the later years of the series was more powerful and feature rich than the iPhone. The x50 had VGA, touchscreen, wifi, BT, SD/CF, IR, 620mhz CPU, over 6000 software apps, and came out in 2004.

If Dell was serious about releasing an iPhone 'killer' all they would have to do is resurrect their x50 and add phone support and it would be better than the iPhone except for the interface. After releasing 6 PDA models they have the knowledge and experience to easily do this. Its probably only a matter of business contracts with the mobile carriers that is holding them back.

Re:bombing? (4, Insightful)

natrius (642724) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445338)

If Dell was serious about releasing an iPhone 'killer' all they would have to do is resurrect their x50 and add phone support and it would be better than the iPhone except for the interface.

The interface is the device.

Re:bombing? (5, Informative)

p0tat03 (985078) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445704)

Mod parent up. This is something that people in the tech field gloss over FAR too often. When it comes down to cell phones, laptops, and all of these consumer electronics, the feature sets of each device is all about the same (bluetooth, WiFi, yadi yada, it's all there)... The only thing that the user interacts with that is DIFFERENT is the UI. The UI *is* the device. It is why Apple has succeeded, and why Motorola is desperate to rid itself of its mobile division.

Re:bombing? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22446184)

The device is a touchscreen. The interface is what's on the screen.

Re:bombing? (1)

llZENll (545605) | more than 6 years ago | (#22446704)

"The interface is the device."

In the end it is, but it is far easier than the hardware. I agree the inteface/OS is probably the most important thing in any phone next to the connection stability, but any piece of software can be easily copied by even the smallest team. Copying the entire iPhone OS experience would be trivial when done on top of Windows Mobile, a single person has already copied much of the functionality. Creating a solid piece of hardware and in mass quantities is much harder IMO.

Re:bombing? (1)

astaldaran (1040462) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445340)

llZENll (545605) had some great points but in addition to this I just want to point out that this article seems very very cheesy..at best. First of all throughout the article they give opinion, obviously not the best journalistic approach. Now this site probably isn't a serious news site and most of its articles are some what op-ed in nature but still. Secondly (either this comment is correct or the article is just badly written enough that I think it is) the article doesn't cite real knowledge that A) dell is getting into the phone market B) that they will brand it under alienware C) and the crazy phone design (though I admit it does look like alienware) rendered in 3d only adds to the unbelievability of this article. This article is full of conjecture and opinion and i'm not sure how seriously we can take it...though it is possible that everything it says is correct it is just hard to tell due to the manner that it was written.

Re:bombing? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22445462)

The Dell Axim series was one of the most popular Pocket PCs in history, I would bet they sold several times more Axims than Apple has sold iPhones.
Excellent point. The Axim in almost certainly outsold the iPhone by considerable numbers. It was an awesome device, way before its time. It had a lot of features still not found in many small handhelds.

So don't consider Dell dead in this area - they're just playing it cool. Clearly their Alienware-branded device is a potential iPhone killer; Dell is likely just floating this idea to the public to gather reaction and to let businesses know that they should wait on the iPhone to see what Dell is going to offer.

Dell is first and foremost a business supplier - and with Blackberry falling due to reliability issues, and with Windows CE growth slowing down, and with Corporate IT's distaste for employees with iPhones, Dell has a great opportunity to land on top.

Re:bombing? (1)

INeededALogin (771371) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445612)

After releasing 6 PDA models they have the knowledge and experience to easily do this.

You are assuming that the knowledge and experience hasn't been lost. If companies get out of a market or bomb in a market, the team is usually not kept together. Most likely, the teams that created the handsets in the past are either not with the company any longer or are in different groups. Every company I have worked at that got rid of a product from its portfolio was totally unprepared to do anything with the market a few months later. I am not saying that Dell can't do, just saying that it would not find it easy to just simply start another attempt and learn from all its past mistakes.

iPhone killer? (1)

mecenday (1080691) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445268)

Ummm... to be an "iPhone Killer" don't you need to have. like a similar featureset and formfactor. This looks like a run of the mill cellphone with some decent gaming which makes it an NGage killer at best. It seems to be for a different market altogether. It doesn't have any sort of qwerty input or touchscreen.

Why bother to mention the iPhone at all in this story? "Alienware Planning Android Cellphone" seems like enough.

Re:iPhone killer? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22445354)

Is killing the N-Gage really something to brag about? That'd be like a person bragging about killing a quadriplegic.

Besides it's the "in" thing nowadays to say you're working on an iPhone killer, and it gets press. Do you think we'd be reading about this if the iPhone wasn't mentioned?

I thought Android is a platform (4, Insightful)

bogaboga (793279) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445296)

Indeed, Android is a platform. Just googled it up and came up with this link: http://code.google.com/android/ [google.com] . It says in part...

"The Open Handset Alliance, a group of more than 30 technology and mobile companies, is developing Android: the first complete, open, and free mobile platform."

But the title suggests that there is an Android phone which will be killed! Android is a platform just like Linux, and Alienware's device will be based on the Android platform. so to me, this development will perpetuate Android instead of killing it.

It's like saying..."Bogaboga Systems is gonna come up with a Linux killer which will be based on Linux!" This does not make much sense to me.

Re:I thought Android is a platform (1)

Zach978 (98911) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445478)

Am I missing something, seems like it's saying that the Android phone is could kill the iPhone??

Re:I thought Android is a platform (1)

bhassel (1098261) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445514)

I think the title was meant to read as Android-based "iPhone Killer", not an "Android iPhone"-killer.

Re:I thought Android is a platform (1)

smoker2 (750216) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445538)

Reading comprehension skills = -1
The title says it correctly. AFAIK, the iphone doesn't use Android, so to take your point of view would be foolish. If there was an article that said "Ford plans 500bhp Ferrari killer" would you take that to mean that the ford was designed to kill 500bhp ferraris or that it had 500bhp that made it the ferrari killer ?
Or "NASA plans 21st moon shot" would of course mean that NASA are planning to go to the 21st moon !

Re:I thought Android is a platform (2, Informative)

Anpheus (908711) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445622)

You parsed the adjectives wrong: [[[[Alienware] Planning] Android] [iPhone Killer]]. Last two words are a noun phrase, Android is used as an adjective describing said noun phrase, and then you have the verb and subject.

Easy mistake to make but you shouldn't be modded insightful for pointing out the grammatical reason the title sucks. Then again, given when you posted, you would have gotten modded redundant for calling out the Editor for calling a fictional and unsubstantiated device with crappy drawings an "iPhone Killer."

Re:I thought Android is a platform (1)

bogaboga (793279) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445680)

Agreed. I wonder whether the editor could have re-phrased the title to avoid confusion. What about inserting the word "based" after the word Android? I think this is part of good editing skills.

iPhone killer (4, Insightful)

ptomblin (1378) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445324)

I'm hoping for an "iPhone done right", and this aint it. By "iPhone done right", what I'm looking for is something that will replace my Treo and my iPod. I definitely like the real keyboard on the Treo - the touch keyboard on my wife's iPod Touch sucks. I also like the fact that the Treo has cut and paste, so I can trim down the quoted part of email. And it's compatible with my Palm apps. But the iPhone is multi-tasking, has a much better web browser, and would mean I don't have to carry around a separate iPod. If something could combine the virtues of both, I'd be right there in line.

Re:iPhone killer (1)

mlk (18543) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445838)

A Windows Mobile device, such as the HTC TyTN II [htc.com] .

Chuck Opera on it and you have a good web browser. Windows Media Player for your MP3 & videos.

Don't have your Palm apps, but I would guess most would have WM versions.

Re:iPhone killer (1)

ptomblin (1378) | more than 6 years ago | (#22446192)

Can you sync to a Windows Mobile device with a Macintosh?

And no, the most important Palm app I need is http://lauriedavis9.tripod.com/copilot/ [tripod.com]
which isn't ported to Windows Mobile.

where is the innovation? (1)

sheehaje (240093) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445342)

Just looking at the "Pictures", I don't see where the innovation is. It is a regular phone dressed in a skin. The iPhone on the other hand did introduce the world to some new ideas. The way the touch screen works on the iPhone, and automatic roatation on the screen are just a couple of the innovations. Not to mention a brand new operating system for a phone. What is Alienware introducing to the world other than a skin? I see a joystick, but these have been available for a while for most PDA type phones.

I really think they need to re-think their strategy here. Unless they are going after the 12-year old crowd with this, I don't see many people carrying this thing around.

Where's the KISS?? (1)

lazyeye (24949) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445350)

If for nothing more, the iPhone takes the cake for simplicity in design. This concept of the Alienware phone is garish, if anything. I don't think this would be good for Google if Android were running on this monstrosity. Hopefully, if they do decide to come out with an Android-based phone, Alienware will keep the design simple without losing their signature look.

Re:Where's the KISS?? (1)

jrothwell97 (968062) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445404)

This is exactly the problem with companies trying to make their machines 'cool'. They seem to think that by making it look like something from Star Trek it's automatically going to be cool. The reason iPods, iMacs and iPhones are so pretty is because of their simplicity. Plate of glass, wide screen, aluminium backplate. That's all. No delta badges. No flares.

The proliferation of black plastic computer casing (the new beige, in a way) needs to stop, too. That's awful.

Re:Where's the KISS?? (2, Insightful)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445782)

It's exactly the reason that so many 'iPod killers' have failed. You start with the iPod and say to an engineer 'make a better one of these,' so the engineer goes away, lists all of the features that iPod doesn't have, and starts adding them. Along the way, marketing gets involved, and adds a few more features (which probably don't integrate well with the existing ones).

After a year or so, they come up with something that is bigger than the iPod, but has a load more features. They ramp up the hype machine and tell everyone about all of the great features it has. Consumers then go into a shop and look for a device with a nice form factor which has the one feature they actually want - the ability to play music - and buy an iPod. Yet another company fails to kill the iPod.

If you want to kill the iPhone, start with the form factor. Design goal number one should be to make something that fits better in the hand than the iPhone. Then take a look at all of the features in all of the smartphones out there, and rank them by utility. Start at the top of the list (presumably 'making voice calls') and keep adding them until just before your user interface starts to get cluttered. Then stop.

Touch sensitive keypad! (3, Funny)

Aaron Isotton (958761) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445358)

Oh my god! It even has a touch sensitive keypad! Now that's unheard of!

Re:Touch sensitive keypad! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22446736)

Now, see, a touch insensitive keypad would be really revolutionary. It would make jokes at inappropriate times, sort of imply that you're fat in an offhand kind of way, and flirt with other people even though it should know damned well you've a crush on it.

fugly (3, Insightful)

ZipprHead (106133) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445360)

How is something this ugly going to be an Iphone killer?

Re:fugly (1)

bazorg (911295) | more than 6 years ago | (#22446526)

it can be used as a hammer.

It will never work (1)

Cannelloni (969195) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445416)

Why? Because Dell and Alienware don't know the difference between their own rears ends and good industrial and GUI design. They would have to use someone else's crappy operating system and UI, and it would be just another stupid Windows handheld device. No go.

NEVER (1)

EddyPearson (901263) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445418)

There is no way you could convince me to buy one of those gothic nightmareish designs.

Christ, its like a 7 year old designed it...

Re:NEVER (1)

DragonTHC (208439) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445586)

completely agreed.

They were cool-looking like 5 years ago when everyone had beige boxen.

My cases have been lian-li since 2000 and I haven't looked back.

SH/IT (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22445434)

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Written by a Monkey (0)

whisper_jeff (680366) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445470)

Mention "iPhone" in an article - even one that looks like it was written by a drunken monkey - and you can get on Slashdot. I love Apple. I want an iPhone (waiting for the Canadian market to pull their heads out of their butts...). But, seriously, this article isn't about the iPhone so why does it get mentioned in the subject? (I know the answer to that - it's a rhetorical question) Not to mention, this article looks like it was written by someone in 8th grade. Or is english this guy's second language?

No, I'm not new around here. Yes, I'm being an elitist tit this morning. But, seriously....

Ugly (1)

kurtis25 (909650) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445486)

I wouldn't carry that thing around. I like the idea of the slide open changing the screen contents. But the Iphone has a nice big screen, any killer will have to find a way to have a big screen or someway of compensating.

it's a killer alright, a revenue killer (1)

wardk (3037) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445516)

an iPhone killer?

they should aim lower, like maybe a fischer-price phone killer?

no such thing as an Android iPhone (1)

lethe1001 (606836) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445550)

iPhones run OSX, not Android. "Alienware Planning Android iPhone-Killer", maybe?

Cheap looking POS, kids first phone or MP3 player (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22445592)

This looks like a cheap POS, look at how much space is wasted by that grill. There's absolutely NO way this is an iPhone killer, this looks more like some kids first phone that they are going to glue plastic beads to or put .25 cent vending machine stickers on. There's no QWERTY keyboard, and the screen on the phone uses no more than 1/3rd of the phone's realestate. No one is going to be sending e-mail back and forth on it, no one is going to be texting with this thing, and enterprise corporations arent going to buy batches of 30,000 of these to hand out to their sales staff. I can see it being used as a MP3 player, but at best I see this being marketed as a kids first phone.

Bleah (2, Interesting)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445634)

So nearly half of its structure is junky looking "futuristic" plastic just for looks?

If they got rid of hat and just put the keyboard there, they wouldn't need a failure prone moving slider part.

wow (1)

colinstu (1151311) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445708)

can someone give me a fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck ugly?

Ugly to the Bone (1)

BrendaEM (871664) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445754)

That could be the ugliest phone I have ever seen.

It's almost perfect (3, Funny)

spintriae (958955) | more than 6 years ago | (#22445786)

All it needs is a Flowmaster.

Fan Art (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22446014)

HEEELLOO!

This is fan art. Not a design of an actual phone. In fact, there's no hint whatsoever that Alienware is designing phone, just an author claiming "Dell not cool, Alienware cool" several dozen times with a claim that they should make the phone.

I'll go back to my Blue Peter project now...

how about.... (1)

the cdrive (1144027) | more than 6 years ago | (#22446054)

how about a phone....that makes phone calls. Maybe bluetooth for syncing. And battery life would be good to..like a week between charges. I don't need my cell phone to play mp3s...I need it to make phone calls. I don't mind my razor v3. It tends to be battery hungry, but it's slim and has decent sound and quality. How about something that just makes damn phone calls?

Trendiest?!? (1)

rockhome (97505) | more than 6 years ago | (#22446272)

Alienware is "the trendiest tech company in the world" according to the article.

Would someone care to explain how this is so? I would say that Apple takes that title.
Though, if not Apple, certainly not a company that very few people have heard of. What
percentage of the PC buying market really knows who Alienware is. I work for a tech
company and would bet less than half of the people there would be familiar with the name.

Alienware doesn't "innovate" (1)

Kalewa (561267) | more than 6 years ago | (#22446434)

I think it's important to keep in mind that Alienware doesn't have the capability to actually create new products. Their computers are just standard components in a gaudy case, and even the much-touted curved display was created by a company in California (for NEC), and relabeled with an Alienware badge.

If they were to release an Android phone they would need to wait for someone else to do so first, then slap their (according to this article, hideous) chunk of custom plastic on the front.

ET even thinks its teh ghey (1)

corifornia2 (1158503) | more than 6 years ago | (#22446442)

I heard it comes with a free punch in the neck for being a fucking idiot and buying it in the first place.

Ironically... (1)

Dizigel (756737) | more than 6 years ago | (#22446764)

...this cell phone/tech blog has pretty much guaranteed that Dell WILL NOT use the Alienware branding to release an Android-based cell phone. In fact, I think that Dell/Alienware could claim that the article damages their brand. It is clearly misleading given many of the responses here.
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