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Brain Control Headset for Gamers

CmdrTaco posted more than 6 years ago | from the get-out-of-my-brain dept.

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gbjbaanb writes "Gamers will soon be able to interact with the virtual world using their thoughts and emotions alone. Headsets which read neural activity are not new, but Ms Le [president of US/Australian firm Emotiv] said the Epoc was the first consumer device that can be used for gaming. 'This is the first headset that doesn't require a large net of electrodes, or a technician to calibrate or operate it and does require gel on the scalp,' she said. 'It also doesn't cost tens of thousands of dollars.'" Wait until the government can get warrantless wiretaps on the logs of those things.

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YES! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22487154)

First post!!!

Re:YES! (1)

Djatha (848102) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487182)

And that without a helmet!

I guess after the helmet for on our heads, the next step will be a helmet for some other part of our body ....

Re:YES! (1)

somersault (912633) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487576)

You're trying to say you've been going all this time without one? I think I'd have gotten bored pretty quick of all this internet stuff without it. No workstation is complete without a cockpit simulator!

Re:YES! (1)

cromar (1103585) | more than 6 years ago | (#22489220)

Are you coming on to me?

Mindstorms (5, Interesting)

n3tcat (664243) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487162)

I can't wait to see what some hardware hackers can do with this and a Lego Mindstorms NXT robot!

Eat, die, and shit (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22487194)



That is the true order of things. Sorted.

Eric 'Suck My Balls' Cartman

Re:Mindstorms (2, Funny)

tristian_was_here (865394) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487274)

I cant wait till some one mods it for the GTA San Andreas "hot coffee mod"

Combined this with VR and... We can all stay home (1)

posys (1120031) | more than 6 years ago | (#22490148)

...and only go into "work" when we want to?

Yea! Finally Brain Control for Gamera (4, Funny)

inicom (81356) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487186)

I'm personally glad to read this, as Gamera has been far too much of a free spirit wrecking havoc with his fire breath. This new era of brain control for Gamera should focus his energies far better to protect the cities of Japan.

And now you've gotten the song stuck in my head. (2, Funny)

Rob T Firefly (844560) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487300)

Gamera, Gamera!
Gamera is really neat!
He is filled with turtle meat!
We all love you Gamera!

THANKS (1)

ajlitt (19055) | more than 6 years ago | (#22488078)

for sharing.

Split Brain (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22487688)

The original article does not mention that this device is gender specific. In fact, it only shows the version for women.

The version for men has two similar but distinct components, taking in account the known anatomic specificities of male brains: men have two separate brains, a northern and a southern one.

No man has sufficient blood to feed both brains, so the basic package includes one sensor only. (it is the south-brain-version. Will do for most gamers and internet surfers).

And you thought CTS was bad (4, Funny)

bentcd (690786) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487212)

Another new word of the 21st century:

brain sprain
Usage: "I sprained my brain playing HalfLife all through the weekend".

Mind control? (1)

zaaj (678276) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487224)

When I first read that headline, I read it as a headset that enables one to control the mind, vs. using the mind to control something. Perhaps that's because I'm listening to the 7th Son trilogy over at podiobooks.com...

Re:Mind control? (1)

bewildered_one (1224876) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487306)

i read it that way too - i do think that would be far more entertaining though.... but possibly a little unethical

Re:Mind control? (1)

harry666t (1062422) | more than 6 years ago | (#22488596)

I can already control your brain (to some extend).

If you do not understand how, read this comment until you do.

You just executed my code.

I wonder. (5, Interesting)

AltGrendel (175092) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487226)

When will people like Mr. S. Hawking get one?

Probably could help them quiet a bit with things.

Re:I wonder. (1)

Threni (635302) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487362)

If there's one thing Stephen Hawking doesn't need, it's help from Slashdot readers...

Re:I wonder. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22487586)

Probably could help them quiet a bit with things.
Only if it doesn't work.

Re:I wonder. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22487794)

Womewhy, I don't think Hawking would be much of a gamer.

Re:I wonder. (1)

FusionDragon2099 (799857) | more than 6 years ago | (#22488234)

Womewhy, I don't think Hawking would be much of a gamer.
You don't know? Stephen Hawking's a Quake master!

Re:I wonder. (1)

Maxo-Texas (864189) | more than 6 years ago | (#22490190)

But could he take Chuck Norris?

Re:I wonder. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22490030)

Yeah, we tried it. He said the Milky Way's twice as big as it was now he can neurally manipulate Excel.

Still needs development (4, Informative)

firex726 (1188453) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487240)

I remember seeing these demonstrated at my college a few months back. At the time we could use them to point, and type things; but they were very slow and somewhat inaccurate.

At the time they did not have a "Backspace" method, so when you typed "O" instead of "P" you would still have to use the keyboard to delete it.

Found a YouTube video of it, but I think this one from a different company.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhR076duc8M [youtube.com]

Re:Still needs development (1)

stereoroid (234317) | more than 6 years ago | (#22488062)

That's software, a separate issue. If I get one of these, all it has to do is emulate a mouse, then I will want to use it with e.g. Dasher [cam.ac.uk] , on top of a Tablet PC interface.

Bad summary. (4, Informative)

Dibblah (645750) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487250)

Look closer at the text. It looks like the device reads *facial expressions* through pointed sensors touching the skin. Yay. That sounds comfortable.

Re:Bad summary. (2, Interesting)

Purity Of Essence (1007601) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487282)

Hmmm. That doesn't sound any better than the Atari Mindlink developed in the early eighties. That thing was reported to give players terrible headaches.

http://www.atarimuseum.com/videogames/consoles/2600/mindlink.html [atarimuseum.com]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Mindlink [wikipedia.org]

Re:Bad summary. (5, Funny)

hal2814 (725639) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487318)

That's exactly what it is. I found a picture [pbs.org] of it online if anyone is interested.

Re:Bad summary. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22488134)

It's actually not that uncomfortable. I got a chance to play around with it since I know a few of the engineers working on the device. I do believe they're slashdot readers too.

What's really interesting is that it actually takes a fair bit of concentration for it to work like you want it to.

maybe I miss read. (4, Interesting)

BrianHursey (738430) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487252)

Did it say it required gel or did not. I have had multiple EEG's and the gel is not fun. It is like gel with sand in it. "This is the first headset that doesn't require a large net of electrodes, or a technician to calibrate or operate it and does require gel on the scalp," she said. "It also doesn't cost tens of thousands of dollars."

Re:maybe I miss read. (2, Funny)

WC as Kato (675505) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487460)

Yep, that's an awkward sentence. Does it require gel or not?! And how does it taste?

Re:maybe I miss read. (5, Funny)

somersault (912633) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487636)

But even more importantly - will it blend?

Re:maybe I miss read. (1)

vikstar (615372) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487836)

But even more importantly - will it blend?
Lol. But dammit, I never get moderator points when I want them. Parent: +1 Funny.

Re:maybe I miss read. (1)

repapetilto (1219852) | more than 6 years ago | (#22488106)

Well I've recently had 3 EEG's and it wasn't too bad, you just wipe the area with an alcohol swab after pulling it off, it took about 20 seconds to be completely free and clean of the thing...There were only ten electrodes though. Maybe the gel they use for higher density arrays is different or its just more of a pain because theres more stuff to stick to your skull.

Re:maybe I miss read. (1)

BrianHursey (738430) | more than 6 years ago | (#22489084)

EEG's have gotten better over the years. The last one I got was 5 years ago. The first one I got was 1990. Your right I think there are less electrodes than before, although I never count I think there were more than 10 though. All I know is each time I go the experience gets better. BTW I have epilepsy that is why I have them. I probably have had 6 in my life.

Re:maybe I miss read. (1)

repapetilto (1219852) | more than 6 years ago | (#22490330)

I was just playing lab rat so I think I got the standard number for research which is probably less precise than whatever is used in a clinical setting. Also the sensitivity of individual electrodes may have increased as you mentioned. I was mostly just commenting on the fact that the gel didn't really cause any problems or annoyances with me.

I like the way it looks... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22487258)

But does it come with a tinfoil hat.

just what every MMORPGer needs. (3, Funny)

will_die (586523) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487262)

Now when you die alone in your studio apartment the decomposing of your brain will be interpreted as commands, further delaying the chance that someone will alert the police that something is wrong.

Re:just what every MMORPGer needs. (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22487432)

Depending on your guild mates to call the cops is probably a stretch. They'd probably just loot your corpse. You're better off hoping that your girlfriend, boss or friends notice that you're missing... Nevermind.

Re:just what every MMORPGer needs. (1)

ichigo 2.0 (900288) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487878)

Well if they're dead then what does it matter? Unless you have found a way to bring back the recently deceased that is.

Re:just what every MMORPGer needs. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22488056)

"There is a big difference between all dead and mostly dead"

Re:just what every MMORPGer needs. (4, Funny)

ichigo 2.0 (900288) | more than 6 years ago | (#22488486)

Yeah, except a decomposing brain usually means that the owner of said brain is 100% dead. Or watching American Idol.

Re:just what every MMORPGer needs. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22488738)

You mean like a defribulator? (I'm aware I can't spell)

Also, fresh bodies can be used for organ donation, so even if you can't save THEM, you might be able to save someone else.

Re:just what every MMORPGer needs. (1)

MORB (793798) | more than 6 years ago | (#22488706)

Now when you die alone in your studio apartment the decomposing of your brain will be interpreted as commands, further delaying the chance that someone will alert the police that something is wrong.

What's wrong with dead players? They can still compete in 2vs2 arena as resto druids.

Re:just what every MMORPGer needs. (1)

BigJClark (1226554) | more than 6 years ago | (#22489198)


right. Like mmorpg players have brains.

*snicker* I kid, I kid ;)

Is anyone slightly worried about some of this? (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22487290)

This is definately a technology i'm interested in, it will be awesome for game controlling and possibly helpful for the disabled. However, I think there are some concerns which need to addressed in its application.

For example, the Half-Life 2 games send an enormous ammount of information to Valve regarding player performance and interaction.

Do you really want your emotional reactions broadcast over the internet? Aren't these pitfalls and questions inevitable with this technology?

Re:Is anyone slightly worried about some of this? (5, Funny)

somersault (912633) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487700)

*somewhere deep underground in an abandoned missile silo*

Evil Data Mining Henchman: Look, master! This one smiles for 62% of the time while playing Half-Life 2! And they only have 512MB of RAM!

Evil Data Mining Master: MWAAAHAHAHAHHHAHHAHAHAA!! Excellent work, Patrick! Soon we shall know just how much all of those poor fools are smiling! My intricately pointless and entirely impotent plan for world domination is almost complete!!

Not really (3, Interesting)

joeyblades (785896) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487296)

I've been seeing these claims for years, but this technology is not really based on thought. It's just one form of bio-feedback. It is an example of control without conventional physical contact, but it does not process structured thought. The user typically has to train themselves to control the feedback mechanism. This is NOT reeading thoughts and taking some action. It is using thoughts to modulate some physical process. In that sense, it's not much different than training your fingers to operate a game controller.

Re:Not really (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22487428)

Then what are thoughts? The voice in your head that you identify as yourself? When that "thinks" in words, your voicebox moves. It's just speech with the volume turned down as far as possible, and it's possible to detect it (though a bit harder than more obvious signals).

Re:Not really (1)

Metasquares (555685) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487628)

Pictures, sounds, and video too. Call it hypertext, I guess :)

I've always thought one of the most fascinating potential uses for BCI was in music composition. Mentally "hear" a sound and the sound is suddenly there. No more fussing around trying to figure out what the right note or chord is. Presumably it could work the same way in art.

Re:Not really (2)

somersault (912633) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487732)

Source please? Not that I don't believe you, but that's very interesting. What happens when you visualise yourself playing tennis (in the first person) then?

Re:Not really (3, Interesting)

joeyblades (785896) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487924)

> Then what are thoughts?

This question is key. No one knows. There are a lot of people working on a lot of theories, but none of them have anything tangible yet. Until we understand how the brain creates thoughts, we can't expect a computer interface to interpret them.

> The voice in your head that you identify as yourself?

Now we're branching into the philosophical, but I'll bite. No, that voice is just one manifestation of thoughts. What about the movies that play out in your brain? Would you not classify these as thoughts, yet often they would not correlate with potential verbalizations? There are other concepts in my head that I don't have a clue how to put into words. I may attempt it from time-to-time, but these verbalizations are byproducts of the original thought. They may, in fact, be unique thoughts of their own, but they are not the root thoughts.

> When that "thinks" in words, your voicebox moves. It's just speech with the volume turned down
> as far as possible, and it's possible to detect it ...

Interesting theory. I've never seen anyone make this claim before. While I think it's possible that the larynx undergoes some change when we think of vocalizations, I doubt that it is a relaiable reproduction of the movements associated with the potential verbalization. Here's why I have my doubts:

    (1) The voice in my head speaks much faster than I am able to reproduce with my larynx
    (2) The voice in my head continues to ramble on, even when I'm eating or drinking

and most damning to your theory

    (3) Sometimes the voice in my head is going on about one thing at the same time I'm speaking about something else entirely

Incredible (4, Funny)

Mickyfin613 (1192879) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487304)

Soon all effort will be removed from gaming what-so-ever. Think of all the precious calories we can save playing World of Warcraft with our minds! Wonder if the twitch reaction timing will mean I can finally beat a Warlock 1v1.

Re:Incredible (1)

mouko (1187491) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487862)

Yeah, because most of us WoW players are running low on spare calories...

Re:Incredible (1)

tnk1 (899206) | more than 6 years ago | (#22488560)

Not even the speed of thought can save you from the Skill Coil.

Re:Incredible (1)

ryzynforce (199741) | more than 6 years ago | (#22488754)

The simple answer to that is NO! you will not be able to beat a warlock 1v1... You will still be pummeled by their pet. Only twice as fast! (this is a joke)

Re:Incredible (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22489772)

Twitch doesn't really matter in games like World of Warcraft.

Radio guys have purpose again (1)

Mishra100 (841814) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487320)

From the article: "It picks up electrical activity from the brain and sends wireless signals to a computer," said Tan Le, president of US/Australian firm Emotiv."

So instead of trying to pick up cordless phone signals and listening to conversations, they can instead sniff into the wireless signal and pick up thoughts!

I just can't wait to see the blog articles from this! :)

Future (1)

im_rotting (543266) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487330)

That picture is awesome. I can't wait for the future.

Typo? (1)

Tsoat (1221796) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487342)

it says in the article "does require gel" but it's listed with things it no longer requires im wondering if that was a typo or not. Im interested to see how this works out. I wonder if someone would be able to hack either the device itself or whatever console they're gaming on and read their thoughts?

Is this really nessary. (3, Insightful)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487364)

"Wait until the government can get warrantless wiretaps on the logs of those things."

Must every paragraph be twisted and poked until it makes some political comment. I don't know about the rest of you but I find it very annoying. Politics is only a small section that effect peoples lives. Things do happen without a political motive or really needs a political comantary. I think we as a people are getting obsessive over politics, everything needs a deep meaning. It doesn't enjoy life a bit.

Re:Is this really nessary. (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22487422)

Wiretapping a device of this sort would result in a log that looks something like this:

"Left! Left! Right! Up! DAMNIT SHOOT HIM! AIM UP STUPID! DAMNIT! WHY DO YOU SUCK SO MUCH? OMG!"

Boom Headshot? (1)

zulater (635326) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487396)

Will I just be able to think "boom headshot" and become 'l33t' at CS?

I read it wrong (3, Funny)

slaker (53818) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487486)

Did anyone else mis-read that headline as "Birth Control for gamers" or is it just me?

Re:I read it wrong (1)

somersault (912633) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487782)

There's a pointless product if ever there was one! You should go post it in the Half Bakery [halfbakery.com] ;)

Re:I read it wrong (1)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | more than 6 years ago | (#22488426)

I read it correctly, but "Brain Control Headset" frightened me at first. Then I realized that I don't play games, so I don't have to worry about being controlled.

Re:I read it wrong (1)

Anarchitektur (1089141) | more than 6 years ago | (#22488538)

Actually, yes, I did. Then I realized how useless such an invention would be and re-read the title.

Re:I read it wrong (1)

Creepy (93888) | more than 6 years ago | (#22488690)

Heh - I took it one step further - "Birth Control Handset for gamers." I'm sure they have that already.

Controlled by gamers thoughts.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22487488)

That is amazing. I didn't think it was possible to control a character on screen with just thoughts of tits and anime.

many brains controlled by mindphuking hypenosys (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22487516)

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Warrantless wiretaps (1)

PingXao (153057) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487536)

The government doesn't need "to get" warrantless wiretaps. They need to GET a warrant. That's the whole point of warrantless surveillance. You don't need to GET anything. You just do it without any oversight. No one watches the watchers. If the think you should be monitored for any reason whatsoever they will do so. Our political leaders have let us down, and that's putting it mildly.

Re:Warrantless wiretaps (1, Informative)

QuantumHack (58048) | more than 6 years ago | (#22488238)

All this hand-wringing about "warrantless wiretaps" is wasted energy. Unless you are intentionally planning/doing stuff to harm people, you need not worry about this.

Having worked in intelligence, I can tell you: the government does not care what books you check out at the library, or what [legal] porn you download. They have enough trouble looking for whack jobs who are trying to bring down buildings and/or networks.

There have been so many foiled plots from these so-called warrantless wiretaps, plots that if carried would have killed thousands or brought Internet businesses to their knees, that if you knew the full truth, you'd be glad these wiretaps exist. As it is, the general public can't know everything, because it would compromise the very intelligence gathering that saves lives. So, therefore, we must put up with paranoid whining.

If you don't want your brain waves to be read by the government, then don't freaking connect your box to the Internet or the phone line. Go ahead. Be paranoid for nothing.

Re:Warrantless wiretaps (1)

xtheunknown (174416) | more than 6 years ago | (#22488586)

Having also worked in Intelligence, I can say you couldn't be more wrong. The government cares about everything you do, read, watch, buy. Eespecially THIS government. When the Patriot Act was passed the government promised that it would be used to catch terrorists. Which lasted about 15 minutes. The first case prosecuted with Patriot Act powers was an OBSCENITY case. We're not talking child porn here. Just adult material that SOME find objectionable. Be afraid, be VERY afraid.

Re:Warrantless wiretaps (3, Insightful)

WK2 (1072560) | more than 6 years ago | (#22490022)

All this hand-wringing about "warrantless wiretaps" is wasted energy. Unless you are intentionally planning/doing stuff to harm people, you need not worry about this.

Or if you plan to do drugs. Or if you speak critically of the government. Or if you plan to do anything at all that someone else might find objectionable (which is pretty much everything). Or if you just don't want your dirty laundry in public view.

There have been so many foiled plots from these so-called warrantless wiretaps, plots that if carried would have killed thousands or brought Internet businesses to their knees, that if you knew the full truth, you'd be glad these wiretaps exist.

Name one.

As it is, the general public can't know everything, because it would compromise the very intelligence gathering that saves lives.

That's a little too convenient.

For what it's worth, I believe you when you say you've worked in intelligence. You spout the same things they do.

Think in Russian (1)

Thelasko (1196535) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487540)

If you think thinking in Russian will keep the Government from spying on your thoughts, you are wrong. The US government has plenty of people who know Russian left over from the Cold War. Based on the current state of US intelligence, I think you are better off thinking in Farsi. [wikipedia.org]

Re:Think in Russian (1)

Isaac-Lew (623) | more than 6 years ago | (#22488446)

I believe this is a reference to the movie Firefox [wikipedia.org] , starring Clint Eastwood. In order to operate the mind-controlled weapons onboard the plane, he has to think in Russian.

You and me (1)

Apoorv (1019864) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487556)

You think : Wow! This is amazing for gamers! This will help the disabled! This is a new breakthrough in technology! It would bring about a whole new era of gaming. I think : Guess what the FBI will use next?

For this to work... (1)

Undead Ed (1068120) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487648)

For this to work, you must be a gamer *and* you must have a brain.

OK.

Ed

HAL would say ... (2, Funny)

Kvasio (127200) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487650)

Without your space helmet, Dave, you're going to find that rather difficult.

There is one major flaw... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22487684)

If this is reading your genuine emotions and transferring them to your ingame avatar you will be unable to lie effectively to your fellow players.

Just imagine it, blue teammate 3 gets horribly slaughtered, you type "sorry mate, didn't know they had set up an ambush there" but at the same time the headset has your avatar bent over double laughing himself silly... team games will never be the same again.

Get Over Yourself TacoBoy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22487768)

Uncle Sugar couldn't give a shit what's going on in your brain. Warrantless wiretaps are for assholes providing direct aid and comfort to the enemy, like this cunt [wikipedia.org] .

You mean nothing to Uncle Sugar. So get over yourself and go back to pleasuring yourself with that new jumbo butt-plug that arrived today from chunksingravy.com.

MIsread (1)

King Jerk (41093) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487876)

I misread the summary title as Birth Control Headset for gamers and thought "Man, am I playing the wrong games"

This is progress? (1, Insightful)

Poseiden (575105) | more than 6 years ago | (#22487948)

Is nobody else seeing the terrible downsides to the technology that we are inventing here?

Imagine a world 30 years from now where robots running on ____ fuel do all of the worlds manual labor. Meanwhile, there are gigantic slums of the poor dying off due to starvation because they have no jobs because the robots can do it for less. Governments won't care because the transfer of power from democratic governments will move to our increasingly large corporations - think feudal. The ones with the jobs are the robot programmers, makers, and all other job sectors still left after such a shift from labor to services is complete. It's these people (many of us would be included in this technological future, of course) that still hate their jobs and go home and hook up to a virtual reality machine to, not be happy, but merely relieve the stress of work.

We don't need a hostile AI takeover to enslave us in the Matrix; we have been enslaving ourselves in the Matrix ever since the industrial revolution. Are we happier? No. Why are we doing it? Evolution. Machines are simply the next evolution after Man.

Time for the "Nintendo Whoah (TM)"? (1)

s_p_oneil (795792) | more than 6 years ago | (#22488154)

With this, hopefully no one would slip and throw their controller into the TV. It would be a tad bit uncomfortable with it being strapped to their head.

I'm a bit surprised they don't offer the option of a head-mounted display. They've already got the head-tracking, but that kinda sucks if your display doesn't move with you.

Better than reality? (1)

yoinkityboinkity (957937) | more than 6 years ago | (#22488174)

With all this VR stuff, I hate to rain on the parade, but as we get closer and closer to reality, what exactly is the advantage? At what point do people go outside and say, hey, this actual reality thing has better resolution! I understand that you can change or eliminate the rules in VR. But, if the rules are invented by people (you know, those things that go to war incessantly), then the rules are probably going to be worse and MORE annoying. So, I think I will stick with actual reality. Just a thought.

I'm surprised (4, Funny)

Phoenix666 (184391) | more than 6 years ago | (#22488246)

No one brought up the inevitable hack to enable "no-hands" surfing for pr0n.

Re:I'm surprised (1)

smackt4rd (950154) | more than 6 years ago | (#22490302)

I think the facial reading/emotion features could be used for more interesting things than just "surfing" for pr0n. :D

Actual neural interface from 1996 (1)

James McP (3700) | more than 6 years ago | (#22488314)

I saw one at CompUSA back in '98-99 and played with the skiing game. It was able to steer correctly about 75% of the time; not bad since I just walked up and plopped my finger on the little sensor.

Go to http:\\other90.com for an unobtrusive "neural" interface. It's really a biometric sensor that's able to get some very crude up/down/left/right input. Of course, their website is straight out of 1998 and it doesn't look like they have made any significant effort to rewrite their software for 2k, let alone XP.

Given that it never seemed to make any inroads at any time, I sometimes wonder if the system would only work for a minority of people. It seems like even the crude data input it had would be excellent to integrate into artificial limbs.

Can it replace my retarded left hand on WASD? (1)

BcNexus (826974) | more than 6 years ago | (#22488354)

My left hand is retarded, always fat-fingering the 'a' and 's' keys while typing on home row. It's not much better when gaming with WASD. I'd snap one of these bad boys up if it it's better than my left hand mashing the WASD keys.

Limitations (1)

Nerdfest (867930) | more than 6 years ago | (#22488466)

interact with the virtual world using their thoughts

I'm in management, you insensitive clod!

Rumbbblllle Ppppack (0)

Kaishaku255 (693156) | more than 6 years ago | (#22488540)

I've bbbeeen bbbeeeta tesstingg the rumbbbllle pppaack for the llaaast tttwwoo dddayys.

is it wrong? (1)

McBeer (714119) | more than 6 years ago | (#22489558)

When I read the title I immediately started hoping they had invented a headset that would allow me to control other peoples' brains. This isn't nearly as cool.

Gel scalp (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22489628)

The words were a little misleading at one point. Do you need gel on your scalp to play it?

video of the device in action at GDC (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22489662)

Videos of the general public giving the headset a go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 [youtube.com]

Good for the disabled but useless for the rest. (3, Informative)

gozu (541069) | more than 6 years ago | (#22489780)

The brain is designed to control the body. Our hands are the most useful part of it, with reason.

The next step will have to be some sort of glove ...we could call it a POWER GLOVE! Maybe nintendo can use it for the next console.

But seriously, it'll have to be that. The big problem is making sure it understands our intentions enough to be useful. Imagine a pianist that can airplay wearing a glove that understand which key he meant to hit (How? Good luck with that...). THAT is the next step and it's hard as hell.

Until then, all we can do is make more ergonomic pads, mice (wiimote is a 3D mouse, fun but doesn't provide more efficient control) and keyboards.

A scary image (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22489798)

If this catches on, the official hardcore-gamer stereotype will have to change. No longer will the Cheeto's-encrusted Inuyasha t-shirt be their emblem. You will know them by the facial expressions they have carefully trained over the years: cartoonishly exaggerated smiles, frowns, and raised eyebrows with statue-still eyes. Mechanically timed for just as long as it takes to register the signal on World of Warcraft III, and then back to nothing. Their parents will think they're on drugs, and society will think they're serial killers; indeed with clown makeup they'd probably look a lot like John Wayne Gacy.

Am I kidding? I'm not even sure; I do know I'm not playing any such game for any long period.

As a person typing in pain now (1)

Maxo-Texas (864189) | more than 6 years ago | (#22490238)

if this works even a little- combined with voice control it would be a godsend.

I deal with pain-3 (on a 1-10 scale) all the time now. Mousing is much worse than typing tho. Partially carpal, partially chemo, partially diabetes. The laser off the eyes devices would also very helpful for the total package. And foot pedals.
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