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Microsoft Pulls Vista SP1 Update

CmdrTaco posted more than 6 years ago | from the undo-undo-undo dept.

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1shooter writes "news.com reports that Microsoft is withdrawing SP1 for Vista. Nick White, Microsoft product manager blogged 'We've heard a few reports about problems customers may be experiencing as a result of KB937287,' wrote White. 'Immediately after receiving reports of this error, we made the decision to temporarily suspend automatic distribution of the update to avoid further customer impact while we investigate possible causes.'"

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HA HA (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22503190)

all niggers must die

Re:HA HA (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22503654)

You're not a very Nice White.

Re:HA HA (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22503934)

Fuck you, cracker.

I'm sorry you can't compete with niggers, but if you ever try to pull that shit in the hood you will be dead before you finish spouting your ignorant bullshit.

Step up and try your luck, bitch.

1P (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22503194)

First White (guy) post from an Average White (guy).

Amiable Caucasian (5, Funny)

Stanistani (808333) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503202)

>Nice White, Microsoft product manager...

Could some please inform Dave Chapelle of this person's name? ...and videotape his unedited response?

Re:Amiable Caucasian (2, Funny)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503276)

No, that's the color he'll turn when Balmer finds out he bungled Vista again. There's a couple of chairs missing from the lobby.

Re:Amiable Caucasian (1)

TWX (665546) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503430)

Nice White, Microsoft product manager...

Could some please inform Dave Chapelle of this person's name? ...and videotape his unedited response?

Yeah, if there is a more obvious name for inadvertently attempting to set a positive image of someone pasty then I can't think of what it would be...

I actually wonder a little as to the actual racial makeup of this person. What if they're ultimately of Indian origin whose family immigrated through the British Empire before finally ending up with Microsoft?

Re:Amiable Caucasian (3, Informative)

TyIzaeL (1203354) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503498)

The article actually says the person's name is Nick White.

Re:Amiable Caucasian (5, Funny)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503560)

["Nice White"] The article actually says the person's name is Nick White.

Don't tell me, Microsoft OCR for Vista(TM)

       

Re:Amiable Caucasian (1)

Stanistani (808333) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503954)

It's too bad that reality got in the way of a silly joke.

Then again, the vagaries of Slashdot editors will always be risible.

Re:Amiable Caucasian (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22503676)

inadvertently attempting

How exactly do you "inadvertently attempt" something? The word "attempt" implies that it's intentional - it doesn't even require success, just that you tried.

(PS: if you were trying to make a joke, you failed.)

Re:Amiable Caucasian (1)

TWX (665546) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503832)

(PS: if you were trying to make a joke, you failed.)
Still got your attention though, didn't I?

Re:Amiable Caucasian (4, Funny)

Hoi Polloi (522990) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503538)

I hope he has a daughter named "Snow"

Aslevjal (1)

CarpetShark (865376) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503544)

Nice White, Microsoft product manager...


As long as no one at microsoft is riding dragons and turning up at Aslevjal, I'll not worry just yet ;)

Re:Amiable Caucasian (0, Offtopic)

R2.0 (532027) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503584)

I bet he has a vewy good fwiend in Wome named Bigus Dickus.

Re:Amiable Caucasian (1)

CrazyTalk (662055) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503968)

I call fake. I'm a Microsoft Vendor, and have access to the MS phonebook via Outlook - there is no one named Nice White in there.

"Nice" White? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22503210)

C'mon guys, the e isn't anywhere near the k on the keyboard!

Re:"Nice" White? (5, Funny)

e4g4 (533831) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503862)

C'mon guys, the e isn't anywhere near the k on the keyboard!
Yes, but they both require a middle finger - I know my middle fingers get a little twitchy when I talk about Microsoft.

Re:"Nice" White? (1)

mweather (1089505) | more than 6 years ago | (#22504264)

My Dvorak keyboard says otherwise.

What? (4, Interesting)

Brian Gordon (987471) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503222)

What happened to problems with KB938371? Their little Windows Update updater that paves the way for the SP1 update is causing big problems here where I work- I'm looking at 3 machines right now that it's refusing to install on.

Re:What? (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503706)

"We are sorry, but there is no support available for this product. You should better not have installed it."

Re:What? (0)

Real1tyCzech (997498) | more than 6 years ago | (#22504180)

Sounds like someone isn't testing patches prior to letting them be installed on production systems? Let's all point and laugh.

They need to think about this differently (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22503224)

If they imagine Vista to be a horrible cancer, and SP1 to be chemotheraphy, then this all seems better. Sure, it's going to make some sick and die, but for a few, it's going to be a cure for their problems. I say let it out and let people take their chances.

Re:They need to think about this differently (1)

tokul (682258) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503882)

I say let it out and let people take their chances.
Imagine that you are one of those sick ones.

The irony, it burns. (0, Offtopic)

Noryungi (70322) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503232)


The MS Product Manager for Vista is named "Nice White".

Let me rephrase this: the ugliest, most user-unfriendly OS out there is managed by a guy named "Nice".

Bada-Bing! Thank you, I'll be here all week. Feel free to mod me down, now.

Re:The irony, it burns. (5, Informative)

ubannoying (1180225) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503270)

What burns even more is that the MS Product Manager's real name is Nick. It was a typo.

Re:The irony, it burns. (5, Informative)

KublaiKhan (522918) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503324)

Looks like a case of autocorrection by the MS Word spellcheck to me. ;-p

As regards the last Vista-SP1-related-problem article, I found this [sans.org] that mentions said problem and how to solve it, if anyone needs that.

Re:The irony, it burns. (4, Insightful)

sm62704 (957197) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503670)

That's what I hate about Microsoft products. The stupid program assumes you're stupid. The stupid program forces you to do things backwards.

Microsoft seems to design for the developmentally disabled, and does a bad job of even that. And they can't seem to learn from their horrible mistakes. Did they learn from Clippy? Hell no, now they have the stupid dog on their XP search. If you tell the damned thing to gho away it comes back the next time you do a search. Yeah, I could probably google for a hack to fix it but damn it, I shouldn't have to.

Linux never does that shit to me.

Re:The irony, it burns. (1)

Constantine XVI (880691) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503760)

You can tell it off without a hack. There's an option in the search to get rid of the dog, and it doesn't come back. Anyway, they did away with it completely in Vista IIRC

(Full disclosure: my primary machine is an Ubuntu box)

Re:The irony, it burns. (5, Insightful)

Mateo_LeFou (859634) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503858)

"Yeah, I could probably google for a hack to fix it but damn it, I shouldn't have to.
Linux never does that shit to me."

So true. I've been using Lx since approximately Mandrake 5.1 (ask your dad), and have never had to, um, google up a fix for anything. Nope. Not once. Except of course 3-5 times a week.

NB: it's well worth it to me.

Re:The irony, it burns. (2, Interesting)

thrash242 (697169) | more than 6 years ago | (#22504152)

That's completely true and I 100% agree, but you have to consider how utterly computer illiterate so many people are to understand why Microsoft products are so dominant. Many people are stupid when it comes to computers.

Oh, and you can turn Clippy off.

Vista doesn't even have the dumb thing.

Re:The irony, it burns. (1)

Mateo_LeFou (859634) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503776)

'Let me rephrase this: the ugliest, most user-unfriendly OS out there is managed by a guy named "Nice".'

More irony. IIRC*, Vista's default theme is black?
"Nice White, manager of a mean, black product, recently stated that.. "

*Mercifully, I do not encounter Vista machines very often

Let me be the first!! (-1, Troll)

timias1 (1063832) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503238)

If they were using Linux they wouldn't be having these problems.

Then again 95% of Linux users are geeks and can manage most of these types of problems themselves.

NOT SP1 (5, Informative)

ilikepi314 (1217898) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503256)

I saw this on the firehose last night and it confused me then, it should have been edited.

The problem is not SP1, but rather an update for Windows Update/installation that is being installed in anticipation of SP1 next month. It's a required upgrade to run SP1, but it is not SP1 itself.

Re:NOT SP1 (1)

LiquidCoooled (634315) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503580)

so...

If you cannot install this update because MS has pulled it, how can you install SP1?
Whether they pulled this package or directly SP1 means the same thing:

SP1 is stopped for now.

Re:NOT SP1 (5, Informative)

Rary (566291) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503844)

If you cannot install this update because MS has pulled it, how can you install SP1?

You can't, whether you install this update or not, because SP1 has not been released yet. It's scheduled for release next month.

SP1 is stopped for now.

SP1 has not even started yet. This is yet another /. article seemingly about SP1 which actually isn't about SP1 becuase SP1 hasn't even been released. This is about a prerequisite to SP1.

Re:NOT SP1 (4, Informative)

LiquidCoooled (634315) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503946)

Read the article next time.
The release next month is for general public, that does not mean it is not available.

Vista SP1 is already available to subscribers to the Microsoft Developer Network but won't receive a formal public release until mid-March.

That certainly looks to me like there were people able to install and run SP1.
They now cannot install SP1 even if they wanted to.

Re:NOT SP1 (1)

ShatteredArm (1123533) | more than 6 years ago | (#22504054)

Yeah, but this article is still not about SP1. It's about an update in anticipation of SP1.

Re:NOT SP1 (2, Insightful)

Rary (566291) | more than 6 years ago | (#22504248)

Read the article next time. The release next month is for general public, that does not mean it is not available.

Fair enough. However, all they've actually stopped is the automatic update. I'm not on a Vista machine right now so I can't confirm this, but suspending the automatic update usually means it's still available as an option, as this problem only applies to a small subset of users. So, those MSDN subscribers who are desperate to install SP1 can still do so. Plus, another poster has pointed out that it actually is possible to install SP1 without first installing this update. I haven't tried it myself, so take that with a grain of salt.

Either way, this article is not actually about SP1, and SP1 is not available to the general public, but is still available to MSDN subscribers who really want to install it. It has not been "stopped".

Oh, stop it! (1)

ShatteredArm (1123533) | more than 6 years ago | (#22504148)

We're trying to bash Microsoft here. Stop being so damned reasonable!

IS SP1 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22503594)

It's not the full SP1, that's true. HOWEVER, it is still part of SP1.

And it most certainly should be pulled. I had a machine that got stuck in a reboot loop, although thankfully not quite the same way that other people have.

In my case, it would install the update, reboot, renotice the update, install the update, reboot, renotice the update, install the update, reboot...

I solved the problem by killing updates altogether. Now I have to manually run Windows Update, but that's a small price to pay for being able to actually use the machine.

'Course, $300 would be a small price to pay to get a working copy of XP to make the machine actually worthwhile, but for some strange reason no one seems to want to sell XP any more, almost like the manufacturer is bullying them...

In any case, this IS SP1! It's the first part of it. It's not the full thing, that hasn't been release yet. But it is the very first part of SP1 that all Vista machines require.

I'll hand it to Microsoft, though, the infinitely reboot loop was the first time I really experienced "the wow."

Re:NOT SP1 (5, Informative)

gravis777 (123605) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503604)

I totally agree. This is about an update that was released on Windows Update, and then withdrawn. SP1 has not been released yet to the end user.

This update just installs updates, and is a PREREQUESIT to SP1. Much as you have to install the Microsoft Genuine Advantage tool in XP before you can install Internet Explorer 7.
Slashdot really needs to start validating their sources

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/937287 [microsoft.com]

Re:NOT SP1 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22503758)

"Slashdot really needs to start validating their sources"

I'd say "You must be new here" but you clearly are not new. ;-)

Re:NOT SP1 (1)

CarlinWithers (861335) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503768)

It's certainly not required. I've got two machines beside me on my desk happily installed with SP1 without the KB update. We've got a few dozen users now using SP1, and so far not a peep.

Not a shock... (4, Insightful)

Kev647 (904931) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503266)

Poor Microsoft...why can't they seem to get things right from the beginning? With all that money and power, they should be able to develope higher quality software. It just doesn't make sense why they wouldn't or can't.

Re:Not a shock... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22503380)

The money goes to
  Marketing Marketing Marketing
not
  Developers Developers Developers

Re:Not a shock... (4, Insightful)

Macthorpe (960048) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503528)

Because you can test on ten thousand combinations of software and hardware and still hit less than 1% of the possible system configurations that exist?*

*Numbers from my arse - you get my point, though.

Re:Not a shock... (4, Informative)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503772)

Yeah. Look you pack of yapping three inch tall dogs even blessed St. Job's stable of magic coding elves riding glowing pink unicorns can't seem to get things right half the time.

Recent OS fix creates problems [macfixit.com] .

Recent OS fix creates problems [macfixit.com] .

Recent OS fix creates problems [macfixit.com] .

Hell, just read Mac Fix it [macfixit.com] and weep (a lot of us Mac users do). Quit yer bitching.

Re:Not a shock... (-1, Troll)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503784)

What ten thousand (or let's just say "significant") combinations?

How many different CPU manufacturers do you have?
How many different GPU manufacturers?
How many mainboard chipsets? ...

If you manage to extrapolate a thousand combinations out of those, without going back more than, say, 5 years (because who the heck has enough time on his hands to install Vista on a machine this old?), you have been very, very creative.

Re:Not a shock... (2, Interesting)

Your.Master (1088569) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503962)

Yes, because there are exactly three components to a computer system, with 3 manufacturers each, and each manufacturer has only one product at any given time.

Honestly, if you were correct, Microsoft wouldn't ever release software that would later be recalled. Because it would be unbelievably stupid. And no, despite the joking, Microsoft is not unbelievably stupid. Neither is Apple, with its far fewer combinations and still having update errors.

Re:Not a shock... (1)

eln (21727) | more than 6 years ago | (#22504164)

Have you ever installed a computer game? I've had those fail in interesting ways because my GPU's firmware was not the version they wanted it to be, even though the card itself was "supported". You could come up with 10,000 combinations easily if you take into account different products from each manufacturer (and any given manufacturer will have multiple products out at any given time, most of which will not be 100% compatible with each other), and the different firmware versions available for each of those products. Motherboards and GPUs especially are notorious for this sort of thing.

Re:Not a shock... (5, Informative)

Macthorpe (960048) | more than 6 years ago | (#22504296)

Let's entertain your ridiculous position for a moment.

Novatech [novatech.co.uk] currently sell the following parts:-

28 different AM2 motherboards.
21 different AM2 processors.
111 different PCI-E graphics cards.
17 sound cards.

So far, we have 1,109,556 different combinations of hardware you can build. That already exceeds my "10,000 combinations is less than 1% of the possible hardware and software configurations" comment.

Bear in mind that we haven't covered:
SATA/IDE hard drives
DVD writers
PCI cards of all types
USB devices
Anything from Intel whatsoever.

I call BS! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22504284)

Because you can test on ten thousand combinations of software and hardware and still hit less than 1% of the possible system configurations that exist?*

What, they can't test BOTH machines out there?

*Numbers from my arse - you get my point, though.

D'oh!

Re:Not a shock... (1)

shadeyk (697658) | more than 6 years ago | (#22504080)

Two words Cowboy Coding (look it up) That's how they did it when I was there, from what I've heard ain't nuttin' changed baby!

Re:Not a shock... (1)

JM78 (1042206) | more than 6 years ago | (#22504118)

With all that money and power...

The problem is the money and power. The bigger they get the less it matters. What are corporations gonna do, turn to Linux desktop or OS X? Not gonna happen on a broad scale anytime soon (although I'm sure Vista is helping IT make Linux arguments more viable).

Update (1, Troll)

the4thdimension (1151939) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503284)

An update that makes things worse from Microsoft? Who would have thunk it? L2QualityTest imo. At least they are pulling it before it gets any worse.

first coin purse! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22503292)

testicles are a myth!

Oops (0, Offtopic)

Eddy Luten (1166889) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503294)

Even though they pulled out [columbia.edu] , infections were inevitable.

Re:Oops (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22503542)

Actually, this quote from your link is pretty interesting:

Spermicides, used alone, have the highest failure rates of all methods of birth control -- even higher than withdrawal!

So that settles it. We now have a perfect analogy for MSFT's strategy and, even better, it doesn't involve a car.

Others (5, Informative)

locokamil (850008) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503310)

KB943899 plays havoc with laptops with misconfigured AHCI devices as well. This isn't reduced performance or anything trival like that; we're talking about full blown "cannot find boot device" BSODs on reboot.

I had to turn off automatic updates to stop the update from installing.

Classic MarketSpeak! (4, Informative)

brennanw (5761) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503330)

They're pulling the service pack because one of the pre-requisite patches you need to install before the service pack can even be applied is causing hard disk errors and requiring re-formats, although you can use the Vista CD to repair those errors, unless you paid for the downloadable version which doesn't come on a CD, and it only affects a minority of users in "unique circumstances" to begin with.

I love these guys.

Re:Classic MarketSpeak! (5, Funny)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503434)

causing hard disk errors and requiring re-formats ... and it only affects a minority of users in "unique circumstances" to begin with. I love these guys.

In other words, Russian Roulette is not problematic because it is only harmful under "unique circumstances".

Exactly! (1)

brennanw (5761) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503478)

5 out of 6 times it performs as intended. Those are good odds, right?

Re:Exactly! (2, Funny)

The MAZZTer (911996) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503526)

Don't you mean 1 out of 6?

Well... (4, Funny)

brennanw (5761) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503550)

... I suppose that depends on how you define winning the game. :)

Re:Exactly! (2, Funny)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503804)

You have very obviously never played Warhammer...

Re:Classic MarketSpeak! (1)

recoiledsnake (879048) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503794)

although you can use the Vista CD to repair those errors, unless you paid for the downloadable version which doesn't come on a CD,
Wrong, you can boot into safe mode and do a restore just like you can do with the Vista "CD".

Re:Classic MarketSpeak! (1)

brennanw (5761) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503874)

I suppose that depends on exactly how thoroughly this patch can screw up a hard drive. The advantage of booting to the CD is that it avoids the hard drive altogether, loads the recovery tools, and then lets you have a go at it.

CD (1)

Z34107 (925136) | more than 6 years ago | (#22504166)

you can use the Vista CD to repair those errors, unless you paid for the downloadable version which doesn't come on a CD

Some poster way up the page linked to a fix for those without a CD. Here's the short version:

  1. Press F8 to boot your computer into safe mode.
  2. Start -> run -> rstrui
  3. Select a restore point predating the bad patch. (The installer should've made one.)
  4. Turn off automatic updates and reboot.

Anyone "savvy" enough to install Windows over the tubes should know about safe mode, the most enduring feature from Windows 95. ^.^

Possible causes (2, Funny)

esocid (946821) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503358)

'Immediately after receiving reports of this error, we made the decision to temporarily suspend automatic distribution of the update to avoid further customer impact while we investigate possible causes.'
It's Vista. Just downgrade to XP. Problem solved. Profit!

Re:Possible causes (0, Redundant)

Kev647 (904931) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503390)

Agreed. XP does everything you need it to do...lets be honest, we all use Linux to develope software, Mac OS X for productivity, and then XP for solitare. lol. In my opinion, Vista doesn't really do anything new that is "so" essential to the average PC user which XP cannot also do...sad.

Re:Possible causes (5, Funny)

Elbart (1233584) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503416)

You mean upgrade to XP, right?

Re:Possible causes (1)

sm62704 (957197) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503620)

Downgrade? If going from Vista to XP is a downgrade, then replacing your carburated four cylinder with a fuel injected V-8 is a downgrade.

If it makes my computyer run slower it's NOT an upgrade.

Curious - Why? (3, Insightful)

Bob9113 (14996) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503376)

So there was a story [slashdot.org] about TechNet users wanting, and being denied, early access to SP1 -- apparently specifically so they could do battle testing. I don't know much about TechNet, but I'm guessing those are pretty much the most tech-savvy bundle of customers Microsoft can easily assemble. Why did Microsoft decide to skip the public beta phase with a bunch of expert customers with diverse operating environments and go straight to the world at large?

Re:Curious - Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22503500)

It is up on MSDN and Technet...

Re:Curious - Why? (1)

KublaiKhan (522918) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503504)

The final distribution -is- the public beta, with MS. Everyone knows that no first-release MS OS works properly, and to wait until after at least the first service pack. :-/

Re:Curious - Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22503674)

Everyone knows that no first-release MS OS works properly, and to wait until after at least the first service pack.

Apparently, now you have to wait until after the first service pack's first service pack.

Tell us again, Microsoft.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22503382)

...how Vista is going to dramatically lower TCO, and require less maintenance.

Two words for you: EPIC FAIL!

Hardly limited to unique circumstances (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22503448)

Note the last paragraph of the article: `According to Microsoft's White: "This problem only affects a small number of customers in unique circumstances."'

I find this a rather incredulous claim considering that in my part-time job providing support to laptop users at my university I had two users with the problem on the same day within an hour of each other. Entirely different laptops, but both fixed with a system restore to before the updates.

Re:Hardly limited to unique circumstances (4, Insightful)

Shados (741919) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503618)

Well, considering universities have a decent amount of people, that the update will be installed on a large number of users at exactly the same time....that you didnt get 200 people at the same time bitching about it means that its a rather uncommon issue. Not uncommon ENOUGH. But uncommon.

Re:Hardly limited to unique circumstances (1)

Anne Thwacks (531696) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503994)

This problem only affects a small number of customers in unique circumstances.

I think he means Visa users.

SP1at (3, Informative)

harvey the nerd (582806) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503452)

of course, the quick fix will be SP1a temporary.

Windows Update downloaded SP1 on my PC last night (1)

Brian Stretch (5304) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503496)

SP1 was waiting for me this morning. The installation took quite a while but it appears to have worked OK. This is for Vista Home Premium x64 (I needed 4GB+ RAM support). Maybe it'll be a little less unstable now. Vista had me seriously considering giving up video games so I could run Linux on my workstation instead (yes, I know about Cedega/Wine). Come on Epic, where's your UT3 Linux client...

Anyhow, either I just missed the cutoff or Microsoft hasn't really suspended SP1 distribution. I didn't RTFA.

Re:Windows Update downloaded SP1 on my PC last nig (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22503616)

It's installing SP1 for me right now. Stage 2 of 3 1% complete - I am on Vista Ultimate x64. I was too scared when I just read this "Pulls SP1 update" thing but reading your post gives me some hope.

Re:Windows Update downloaded SP1 on my PC last nig (3, Interesting)

The Living Fractal (162153) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503948)

SP1 was waiting for me this morning as well. I haven't yet installed it though. I have Ultimate 64. For me, stability has never been a concern and I am running an overclocked e8400 with 8gb of RAM. The system is very smooth. I haven't had any problems running games.. and the few games that I have run in DX10 are pretty nice looking compared to their DX9 versions. If you read the rhetoric on Slashdot you'll think Vista is a complete failure. I decided to try Vista for this new build, despite reading this rhetoric, because I knew that a great majority of the Slashdot posters who post about a Microsoft product have not in fact used the product. Slashdot readers are actually more herdlike and less independent than one might think.

Re:Windows Update downloaded SP1 on my PC last nig (0, Flamebait)

PrescriptionWarning (932687) | more than 6 years ago | (#22504298)

"8gb of RAM"

all things aside about the performance and stability of a computer, 4 or even 8GB of RAM to run an OS decently is a crime. Now I know you can run it with 2GB fine if you don't play many games, but even still I'm still happy with my XP Pro with 2GB of RAM and thats all I need for gaming, escpecially since there's not yet any real benefit to directX 10.

RTFA! (3, Informative)

Techogeek (1148745) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503522)

It's NICK White, not NICE white. Typo in the /. write-up.

Ass Clowns (0, Flamebait)

curmudgeon99 (1040054) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503638)

What, at this late stage Microsoft does not have a QA department? Or, rather, is it that MS's internal QA department is so used to releasing crap code that they considered this as business as normal. How bad is it--when people (who already know never to buy version 1.0 of anything Microsoft) now think they will have to wait not only for version 1.2 of something MS but version 2 of the Service Pack.

Re:Ass Clowns (1)

Shados (741919) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503822)

Hey, WinXP was trash until SP2. Win2k had registery corruption-caused bluescreens until SP3. WIndows ME....well...nevermind that one.

So its always been that way :)

Re:Ass Clowns (1)

DragonWriter (970822) | more than 6 years ago | (#22504006)

What, at this late stage Microsoft does not have a QA department?


The whole point of a monopoly is that it renders both quality and price substantially less important to the ability to sell product.

Consequentially, it makes devoting resources to QA less justifiable in a profit-maximizing firm.

If You Really Want to Help Your Customers (-1, Offtopic)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503646)

Microsoft, if you really want to help your customers, pull Vista completely, and don't release it, or any successor, OS until you've stripped out all the consumer VERY UNFRIENDLY DRM. We hate you for it, and I don't notice movie studios making up for that hate.

MSDN release as well? (1)

iainl (136759) | more than 6 years ago | (#22503702)

I was about to install SP1 tonight, after downloading it from MSDN. Does this mean I should hold off, or does it only affect people who were going to get it over Windows Update? The write-up seems a bit unclear.

I have the URLs for the *REAL* Sevice Packs (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22503742)

for Both Windows Vista and Windows XP.

Click Here [umn.edu] if you have a 32-Bit processor.
Click Here [umn.edu] if you have a 64-Bit processor.

MS SysOp Rule One: Wait until SP2 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22503878)

real IT won't look, not even a trial or peek
for anyone using betaware's clearly no geek,
and when users ask and pray for microsoft vista
you can then say, "can't say I've miss for ya"

SP1 breaks Vista? (1)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 6 years ago | (#22504046)

At least it's doing something right, then!

Stupid waste of time (1)

nozzo (851371) | more than 6 years ago | (#22504120)

not Vista! this story. As others have already pointed out SP1 hasn't been pulled at all. Now you've wasted your time reading this rant about made up stories wasting my time.

It's Hell.

Daily Two Minutes Hate (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22504140)

... right on time!

Good work, boys! Surely this posting will take down Microsoft THIS time!

The fine reporting of Slashdot continues... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22504172)

Well, at least you guys are consistant when it comes to reporting MS stuff. Terrible as always.

MS is not pulling SP1. In fact as of this morning it is available to many through windows update.

KB937287 is not SP1, but a prerequisite patch that a handful of users have had issues with installing. This is the patch that the actual article is refering to.

Yeah, Yeah, Big Deal (1)

BigBlueOx (1201587) | more than 6 years ago | (#22504238)

SP1 pre-upgrade service patch install patch service upgrade install patch doesn't work. So what? Who cares? Operating systems and (ick) code are so ... 80s.

This is the new millenium; this is the new Microsoft. How are ad revenues? What's our advertising market share? We are gonna f***ing kill Google!!

Ironic (1)

immcintosh (1089551) | more than 6 years ago | (#22504294)

So much for the ol', "I'm just gonna wait until the first service pack irons out all the major bugs," people eh? That sure turned out well :P
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