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Oh God no.... (5, Insightful)

Daimanta (1140543) | more than 6 years ago | (#22539438)

Please don't let EA screw up another good game studio.

For the love of baby jesus (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22539542)

If EA buys this company it means there is another great game franchise not worth buying due to their machavellian work environment. YES you can go work for someone else yada yada yada.... But every decent game franchise that comes out the Nazi Thugs from EA either attempt to buy them out or sue them into oblivion.

Please don't make baby jesus cry and succumb to the whims of the truly evil empire. Microsoft has plenty to learn from EA, Balmer looks like a Carebear on downers compared to the jackbooted thugs of EA.

Re:Oh God no.... (5, Insightful)

Thane2600 (1158225) | more than 6 years ago | (#22539556)

Word!!! Westwood studios being the prime example of a game studio run into the ground. And Battlefield 2 is like a supermodel dressed in a paper bag. I just love the ten minutes it takes to get into a BF2 server.

Re:Oh God no.... (1)

icsx (1107185) | more than 6 years ago | (#22539714)

Oh yes, and don't we all want more sequels after a sequel to a sequel which used to be an original game 10 years ago. Also someday people get bored to those NHL, FIFA, NFL and other sequel series.

What it comes to situation with EA now, it needs something new since it can only create sequels. If it where to get Take Two, it would get the release of GTA 4, Mafia 2 and other upcoming and important releases. EA has no hitgames on it's garages atm but Take Two has plenty and the firm itself is in good condition. These 2 games alone will sell good, there is no question about that.

You say that, but... (5, Insightful)

Dutch Gun (899105) | more than 6 years ago | (#22540308)

don't we all want more sequels after a sequel to a sequel which used to be an original game 10 years ago
The simple fact of the matter is, that's what consumers seem to actually want. Look at the most anticipated games of 2008 (according to some writer at Yahoo, that is):

http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/10-most-anticipated-games-of-2008/1177969 [yahoo.com]

Grand Theft Auto 4
Smash Bros. Brawl
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue
Metal Gear Solid 4
Halo Wars
Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
Fallout 3
Spore
World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King
Final Fantasy XIII

Of that list, I see only one title based on a 100% new intellectual property: Spore. One guess who is publishing that title...

Irony?

Anticipation for original titles... (1)

sonap (973069) | more than 6 years ago | (#22540986)

One has fond memories of IP, so it's not surprising that you'd get lots of anticipation for sequels over originals.

Spore brings up an interesting point: We should be celebrating good game creators, the way we celebrate the directors of movies. Thus the hype comes for talented teams, rather than the just the intellectual properties they create.

Re:You say that, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#22541394)

They're anticipated because people know the studios that make them, and know the games will be quality. Original IPs are almost never anticipated, but become hits after release.

Re:Oh God no.... (2, Interesting)

Sinryc (834433) | more than 6 years ago | (#22540802)

See, this is where people are wrong. No one will ever get tired of sports games any faster than people get tired of watching sporting events. Its really that simple. People have been saying that they would get tired of the sport games for the past 5 years or so, but it hasn't happened yet.

Re:Oh God no.... (4, Insightful)

rustalot42684 (1055008) | more than 6 years ago | (#22539728)

Or Maxis. The SimCity 4 Rush Hour expansion had a stupid thing where you could unlock buildings by doing "U-Drive it" missions or whatever, and now they've made some shitty "sim city societies" game that's not about building up and cities any more, and EA's to blame. Fucking assholes.

Re:Oh God no.... (3, Interesting)

Mr_eX9 (800448) | more than 6 years ago | (#22540384)

Maxis may have gotten decapitated, but EA is still giving Will Wright their full support. We'll see the fruits of their labor when Spore finally comes out later this year.

And the real test to whether or not EA is going to stop screwing up their acquisitions [wired.com] will be the fate of Pandemic/BioWare. The jury's still out on that one.

Re:Oh God no.... (1)

atrus (73476) | more than 6 years ago | (#22540768)

Rush Hour U-Drive-It sucked.

Rush hour had new road types and the intensely useful commute graphs. So it wasn't all bad.

Societies is horrible though.

Re:Oh God no.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22541158)

Don't foget Bullfrog Productions, Ltd. who gave us Dungeon Keeper. When Bullfrog was aquired by EA pretty much all the talent fled the company [bit-tech.net] . When EA aquires a game studio, they pretty much kill it regardless if they mean to or not.

Re:Oh God no.... (4, Insightful)

asdfghjklqwertyuiop (649296) | more than 6 years ago | (#22541168)

Not to mention that SimCity 4 was basically unplayable without the expansion. You just didn't have the road types needed to handle traffic in high-density cities. It just reeked of your typical EA garbage where they get the game only partially done, sell it, then sell the finished product as an expansion. I won't be buying societies.

Re:Oh God no.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22540964)

Supermodel dressed in paper bag. Sounds sorta hot.

Oh yeah, supermodels dressed in anything is pretty hot. Thats why they are supermodels.

Re:Oh God no.... (0, Troll)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 6 years ago | (#22539766)

Another? Did they screw up a good game studio before?

Re:Oh God no.... (1)

khellendros1984 (792761) | more than 6 years ago | (#22540242)

Bioware got eaten by the ogre, as well as Maxis, Origin, Westwood...studios that put out some real classics and would still be doing so if they hadn't been swallowed up....I've still got some faint hope for Bioware, at least. They seem to be relatively independent...

Re:Oh God no.... (3, Interesting)

Chris Mattern (191822) | more than 6 years ago | (#22540360)

You go back far enough, and you realize they also ate themselves. Remember when Electronic Arts meant Pinball Construction Set? Chuck Yeager's Advanced Flight Sim? M.U.L.E.? Archon? The creativity in Electronic Arts was once nothing short of amazing.

Re:Oh God no.... (1)

Dogtanian (588974) | more than 6 years ago | (#22540750)

You're right. The irony is that EA is nowadays in many ways the antithesis of what it started out as. Rather than a seller of endless sequels created by anonymous slave-driven peons, it used to be a well-regarded publisher of generally high-quality games, with the authors even being given named credit on the front of the packaging.

I'm sure I read somewhere that the turning point was sometime around the start of the 90s when they shifted their focus onto games for the 16-bit consoles. Wasn't that also the time that Trip Hawkins left (or at least shifted focus) to concentrate on the flop 3DO console?

Re:Oh God no.... (5, Insightful)

numbski (515011) | more than 6 years ago | (#22539788)

Everyone's focused on GTA. How is everyone overlooking the fact that TT owns Visual Concepts - ie, the 2K Sports franchises? They would eliminate the only real competition they have in that arena, and Madden will continue to be the "best" football game out there.

(ie, the only football game out there)

Re:Oh God no.... (2, Informative)

esrobinson (1028500) | more than 6 years ago | (#22539886)

Madden has been the only football game out there since they purchased the exclusive license from the NFL.

Re:Oh God no.... (1)

The Analog Kid (565327) | more than 6 years ago | (#22540286)

Madden has been the only football game out there since they purchased the exclusive license from the NFL.

All-Pro Football 2k8 was released last year. I myself don't consider on par with Madden, since it lacks a franchise mode (even if they are all made up teams, I don't care), but give enough time I think it would be pretty good.

Re:Oh God no.... (1)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 5 years ago | (#22541230)

The NFL can't stop someone from making a football game anymore than they can go down to your local athletics field and kick everyone out for playing the game.

They can only prevent you from using real people and real teams.

Model your game as if you were using the real teams, randomize the player and team names, and create original artwork.

Problem solved. If anything it might be BETTER that way, as you don't have players obsessing over their real-life favorite team, distorting their decisions in-game.

Note: I don't watch, OR play, sports.

Re:Oh God no.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22540078)

If they could get Visual Concepts people to fix EA Sports AI that would be great.
I am tired of playing against dumb computer intelligence and see the other game studios creating games that are actually smarter than most of the humans I know.
While all the other studios are working on developing AI, EA is creating a new kind, that can be called AS (Artificial Stupidity).

Re:Oh God no.... (2, Funny)

r_jensen11 (598210) | more than 6 years ago | (#22540490)

(ie, the only football game out there)
Konami makes Pro Evolution/Winning Eleven, which is touted as the most realistic football game out there and has a very dedicated fanbase.

Oh, you ment American football. Gotcha.... As far as I'm concerned, all video games for that sport went downhill after Tecmo Superbowl

Re:Oh God no.... (1)

Cokeisbomb (1001675) | more than 5 years ago | (#22541228)

no question about it - Tecmo Super Bowl was the peak of football gaming. To this day, i dont know anyone that actually thinks Madden 08 is a better game. In addition to Madden 08 - you get RBI Baseball - and in a distant 3rd place Baseball Stars. The quality of these games (especially these two) has been unmatched for 20 years.

Re:Oh God no.... (1)

lostsatellite82 (1153629) | more than 6 years ago | (#22540756)

I'm going to get called for trolling here but I'm not; I'm legitimately confused.

I thought ie meant "for example". So in the previous comment, numbski states that Madden would be the "best" football game, for example, the only football game.
Is this a proper use of the ie? Or would something like aka be more appropriate?

Oh, and EA sucks btw.

Re:Oh God no.... (1)

KrazyA1pha (911714) | more than 5 years ago | (#22541312)

You're probably thinking of 'e.g.' E.g. is an abbreviation for the Latin phrase exempli gratia which translates to "for the sake of the example", or "for example."

On i.e... (1)

Terraism (936192) | more than 5 years ago | (#22541314)

Continuing the off-topic discussion, "for example" is actually represented with "e.g.", which is Latin for "exempli gratia".

Re:Oh God no.... (5, Insightful)

PocketPick (798123) | more than 6 years ago | (#22539792)

Given the fact that in the last few months Take Two has been investigated by the SEC, ousted most of it's executives, laid off some of it's staff and has a stock value that is still 1/2 what it was in 2005, I don't think they need EA to screw themselves up.

Re:Oh God no.... (1)

Simian Road (1138739) | more than 6 years ago | (#22540314)

I dunno. Financial maneuverings tend to have give no indication of quality of product to me.

Re:Oh God no.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22541106)

Didn't Take Two publish the famous Battlecruiser 3000AD [google.com] game? Please, somebody make sure that Battlecruiser 3000AD will still be okay! So many people got so much enjoyment out of just discussing BC3K, let alone playing it, that it would be a shame if it was canned.

I guess EA will get frustrated... (3, Funny)

syousef (465911) | more than 6 years ago | (#22539444)

...and in the spirit of GTA will start randomly shooting people, stealing cars and running people down, and picking fights with random street walkers.

Re:I guess EA will get frustrated... (5, Funny)

CSMatt (1175471) | more than 6 years ago | (#22539674)

At which point Jack Thompson will cry out "I told you so!"

Re:I guess EA will get frustrated... (3, Funny)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 6 years ago | (#22540428)

Could we somehow rig it so Jack takes on EA on a battle to death?

Whoever loses, we win.

[Whispers] Buy Everything! (1)

MrSteveSD (801820) | more than 6 years ago | (#22539456)

I think we are just going to end up with one massive games company.

Re:[Whispers] Buy Everything! (4, Insightful)

Dunbal (464142) | more than 6 years ago | (#22539632)

That's what I thought, way back when all these buyouts and mergers started happening in the 90's. Guess what? The big commercial entities (EA, Sierra, Ubisoft, etc) keep making "sequels" and innovators keep appearing with new stuff that sells well (before getting bought out before version 3, etc).

      I doubt very much we'll only every have the One Big Gaming company - games would suck so much people would eventually stop buying them.

Re:[Whispers] Buy Everything! (1)

hobbit (5915) | more than 6 years ago | (#22539942)

I doubt very much we'll only every have the One Big Gaming company - games would suck so much people would eventually stop buying them.
Just like everyone stopped buying operating systems ;)

Re:[Whispers] Buy Everything! (1)

not flu (1169973) | more than 6 years ago | (#22540388)

It's pretty trivial to stop gaming. It's frickin' hard to stop using an operating system.

Re:[Whispers] Buy Everything! (1)

PietjeJantje (917584) | more than 6 years ago | (#22540368)

Ok, but how does this take into the account the every increasing cost to make big games, isn't that creating an ever increasing barrier of entrance? Sure, creating a concept like Tetris doesn't cost much, but on the whole if I draw a graph of the average cost associated with making games over the last 10 years, it has been increasing because of hardware possibilities and such. The most innovative time was when games could be made by a single freak in the attic, but just like in the 90ties when you could not get away with a Chuckie Egg anymore, it will be even harder now for small studios to compete with the big ones.

Re:[Whispers] Buy Everything! (1)

BryanL (93656) | more than 6 years ago | (#22540416)

You mean like with popular music? Big labels bought indie labels in the 70s/80s/90s and now most popular music has a sameness to it. Now the labels complain that people don't buy their music anymore. When there is a sameness to games because there are only a few big game companies, people will probably stop buying games as well.

The big gaming crash of the 80/90s? (1)

Wilson_6500 (896824) | more than 6 years ago | (#22540718)

I doubt very much we'll only every have the One Big Gaming company - games would suck so much people would eventually stop buying them.

I was too busy playing games back then, and less busy thinking about them--besides that I was just a kid--but didn't something very much like that actually already happen once sometime in the 80s or 90s?

The difference, now, is that video games are breaking into the "real world" and are becoming akin to movies and television. They'll suck, sure, but people won't stop buying them, and the medium will become permanently bankrupt, speaking to creativity, with only the rare gem from an independent studio shining out once in a long while. And you'll still probably somehow have to put up with advertisements to see those gems.

and of course, (5, Funny)

notgm (1069012) | more than 6 years ago | (#22539458)

in response to the offer, take two has blown up several cars outside EA's offices and triggered a turf war.

Re:and of course, (1)

0x000000 (841725) | more than 6 years ago | (#22539646)

I wish I had mod points.

I have enjoyed the GTA series, and really hope that EA does not take over Take Two. I can't remember a single game that ever came out EA that I would want to play again. The last game I remember playing was Need for Speed, number 2. EA would destroy that what makes Take Two such an awesome game publishing company!

In Related News (5, Funny)

garett_spencley (193892) | more than 6 years ago | (#22539506)

Many Take Two shareholders are suing the company for acting outside of the best interest of it's share holders. Other shareholders have resorted to robbing Take Two employees' cars and using them to pick up hookers before taking their money and "disposing" of them.

Re:In Related News (1)

nacturation (646836) | more than 6 years ago | (#22539914)

Many Take Two shareholders are suing the company for acting outside of the best interest of it's share holders.
Nice. I like how in your parody of the Yahoo story you reproduce Slashdot's trademark grammatical error.
 

Re:In Related News (1)

garett_spencley (193892) | more than 6 years ago | (#22539982)

Ouch and to think I'm a grammar Nazi myself. I can't believe I let that one slip :(

Wait, did I just invoke Godwin's law ? I double suck today.

Re:In Related News (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22541132)

Make that triple suck. Shareholder is one word.

Take Two ~~ Yahoo? (4, Interesting)

Rinisari (521266) | more than 6 years ago | (#22539518)

I wonder if Take Two's shareholders will sue the board now similarly to Yahoo's shareholders.

One hit wonder? (1)

Izabael_DaJinn (1231856) | more than 6 years ago | (#22539572)

"Take-Two is known as a mercurial one-hit wonder." You mean Rockstar's Table Tennis wasn't a smash hit? Go figure ;-)

Re:One hit wonder? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22540896)

Well, a two-hit wonder...the guys who made GTA also made Lemmings :)

Aw... (5, Funny)

Orleron (835910) | more than 6 years ago | (#22539600)

...and I was almost so psyched about getting to play a MMORPG where you can grind skills like "Steal Cars", "Shotgun", and "Pimp Ho's".

Re:Aw... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22540906)

Three words: All Points Bulletin ;\

Dear EA the reason why your offer was declined... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22539614)

...was due a typo: "...Electronic Arts Offers $2B for Take Two..." as what it should actually say is: "...Electronic Arts Offers 2billion pounds For Take Two..."

I mean common guys! Firstly just so you know her in the UK be aware a billion GBP is worth a LOT more than a US billion and secondly common take a look at the value (oxymoron?) of the dollar vs UK pound currently! Thus just change the $ to a pound sign and then your talking!

Thanks all your friends @ Take Two!

Re:Dear EA the reason why your offer was declined. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22539696)

Seriously, anyone who writes such common English cannot be taken seriously, especially when they claim to come from the part of the world that spawned the language.

On an actually serious note, don't Europeans have billion == 10^6 and million == 10^9 (flipped compared to North America)

Re:Dear EA the reason why your offer was declined. (1)

rustalot42684 (1055008) | more than 6 years ago | (#22539794)

Nope. The "long scale" you're thinking of goes roughly as follows: million = 10^6 milliard = 10^9 billion = 10^12 billiard = 10^15 etc etc

Re:Dear EA the reason why your offer was declined. (1)

cephah (1244770) | more than 6 years ago | (#22539810)

It varies from country to country in Europe. In Denmark we use million as 10^6 and billion as 10^12.

Re:Dear EA the reason why your offer was declined. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22539992)

err no

Million == 10^6
Billion == 10^12 (at least in UK, but finance has accepted the Americanism of billion == 10^9)

Re:Dear EA the reason why your offer was declined. (1)

Dogtanian (588974) | more than 6 years ago | (#22540780)

No; in the UK, the US definition of billion (10^9) has taken over and is now the overwhelmingly accepted standard for all uses. I can't recall the last time I heard the old (10^12) definition used here- except in a discussion like this- and I'm sure I read that it's officially considered obsolete somewhere.

Re:Dear EA the reason why your offer was declined. (0, Offtopic)

ChinggisK (1133009) | more than 5 years ago | (#22541380)

I know I'll probably get modded off-topic (or flamebait) for this but it's relevant to the parent post and I'm curious- what is it with everyone in countries other than the US being so proud of how their currency is doing? I mean, when I go to countries where the US dollar is more valuable than the local currency I'm happy because stuff is cheaper, but it's not something I care enough about that I go bragging about it. But when I was up in Canada when their dollar overtook the US dollar, and that's all every Canadian I met could talk about. Now the US dollar is (slightly) back up on the Canada dollar, but I didn't even hear about it here and I know that very few Americans actually give a crap. Of course, maybe that lack of caring is why the US dollar is dying...

Politics and financial consequences. (3, Interesting)

palegray.net (1195047) | more than 6 years ago | (#22539618)

Given Hillary Clinton's [senate.gov] ongoing fight to convince America that she's better at parenting our kids than we are, these sorts of buyouts may wind up being poor judgment calls should she somehow get elected...

Re:Politics and financial consequences. (-1, Offtopic)

palegray.net (1195047) | more than 6 years ago | (#22539924)

Offtopic my ass. It deals directly with Clinton's views of video game publishers, with specific reference to GTA. Anyone who bothered checking the link would've seen that. For the lazy, here's the article text straight from Senator Clinton's website:

Washington, DC - Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (NY) today announced that she will introduce legislation to help keep inappropriate video games out of the hands of children. She also called upon the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) to take immediate action to determine the source of graphic pornographic and violent content appearing on the Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas video game. Recent reports have revealed that this graphic content can be unlocked by following instructions widely available on the Internet.

"The disturbing material in Grand Theft Auto and other games like it is stealing the innocence of our children and it's making the difficult job of being a parent even harder," said Senator Clinton. "I am announcing these measures today because I believe that the ability of our children to access pornographic and outrageously violent material on video games rated for adults is spiraling out of control."

Senator Clinton announced that the legislation she will introduce will put some teeth into video game ratings by instituting a financial penalty for retailers who fail to enforce the rules. It will prohibit the sale of violent and sexually explicit video games to minors and put in place a $5000 penalty for those who violate the law.

Recent research has confirmed links between exposure to violent video games and aggressive behavior in children and a groundbreaking new study by researchers at Indiana University School of Medicine show that playing violent video games triggers unusual brain activity among aggressive adolescents with disruptive behavior disorders. Senator Clinton noted that this is just the latest piece of evidence that confirms the potentially damaging impact of these games on children. Senator Clinton also noted that the current, industry enforced system is not yet working as it should and is not acting as a deterrent to kids accessing inappropriate video games, underscoring the need for today's action.

In calling for the FTC to launch an investigation, Senator Clinton urged the FTC to determine whether an Adults Only (AO) rating is more appropriate than the current Mature (M) rating for the Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas video game given this new, alarming content. She also requested that the FTC examine the adequacy of retailers' rating enforcement policies.

According to research by the National Institute on Media and the Family, games rated M, which means they are appropriate only for people aged 17 or older, are relatively easy for teenagers and even children as young as age 7 to obtain. In the National Institute's recent study, 50 percent of boys between the ages of 7 and 14 successfully purchased M-rated video games, and an astonishing 87 percent of boys play M-rated games. Furthermore, nearly a quarter of retailers in the study don't even understand the ratings they are supposed to enforce, and only half of the stores train employees in the use of the ratings.

"No wonder these games are falling into the hands of our children and no wonder so many parents feel everyday like they are fighting this battle with their hands tied behind their backs," said Senator Clinton. "We need to do better. We need to do everything we can to make sure that parents have a line of defense against violent and graphic video games and other content that go against the values they are trying to instill in their children."

The following is the text of Senator Clinton's letter to the FTC:

Deborah Platt Majoras
Chairwoman
Federal Trade Commission
Washington, DC

Dear Chairwoman Majoras:

Recent reports have revealed that the video game, Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, has graphic pornographic content which may be unlocked by following instructions widely available on the Internet. The Entertainment Software Ratings Board (ESRB) has given this game a Mature (M) rating, which means it is appropriate only for people age17 or older. In all likelihood, this revelation means the game deserves an Adults Only (AO) rating. Alarmingly, it seems that no one yet knows the source of this content. The ESRB is investigating this matter and I am hopeful its investigation will be vigorous and thorough. But the public has a strong interest in learning the answer quickly. We should all be deeply disturbed that a game which now permits the simulation of lewd sexual acts in an interactive format with highly realistic graphics has fallen into the hands of young people across the country. I therefore urge you to take immediate action to determine the source of this content and the appropriateness of the M rating in light of its vast accessibility, and to make your findings public. Parents who rely on the ratings to make decisions to shield their children from influences that they believe could be harmful, should be informed right away if the system is broken. Parents face an uphill battle just understanding the ratings system. They cannot and should not be expected to second guess it.

I also ask that you conduct a careful examination of the adequacy of retailers' rating enforcement policies. According to research conducted by the National Institute on Media and the Family, M games are relatively easy for teenagers and even children as young as 7 to obtain. In the National Institute's recent study, 50% of boys between the ages of 7 and 14 successfully purchased M-rated video games. Furthermore, only 76% of retailers in the study said they understand the ratings they are supposed to enforce. And only half of the stores train employees in the use of the ratings. The National Institute has determined that 87% of boys play M-rated games and 78% list an M-rated game among their favorites. As a Senator, I hear from parents all the time about the frustration they feel as they try to pass their own values onto their children in a world where this type of material is readily accessible. There is no doubting the fact that the widespread availability of sexually explicit and graphically violent video games makes the challenge of parenting much harder. I will be exploring legislation to help parents with this challenge when it comes to purchasing video games soon and I hope you will work with me to ensure that the ratings system - the best tool parents have to filter this material - is meaningful. Sincerely,

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton

Re:Politics and financial consequences. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22540090)

Dude...I get that you don't like Clinton's policy - in fact, I agree with you strongly. Thinking that your post is on-topic, though, is like saying that a quote from Darl McBride is on-topic to a news story about Linus Torvalds's vision for where Linux is going, just because of Darl's legal antics as regards Linux.

There's plenty of politics stories going on. Trying to put this in here just alienates people and makes them less likely to be sympathetic. It's about timing and relevance, and this post only hurts attempts by other folks (like me) to spread the word in a more on-topic fashion.

Considering what AE does to their franchies (1)

forgoil (104808) | more than 6 years ago | (#22539724)

I really hope Take Two resists this, or GTA 4 will be their last good game for sure. I really don't want that, and I think many agree with me, because that game is just so freaking good!

get ready for ... (5, Insightful)

cab15625 (710956) | more than 6 years ago | (#22539732)

GTA 5: Drivers Ed!

GTA 6: Parental Approval!

GTA 7: Sunday Driver!

GTA 8: Horse and Buggy!

Re:get ready for ... (2)

crossmr (957846) | more than 6 years ago | (#22540312)

oh please.. it takes them years to do a sequel, it just means GTA will have expansion packs and stuff packs. You'll be able to buy expansion packs that add new areas and missions to drive around in, and stuff packs will add new outfits, cars, and the guns will have new coloured triggers.

Re:get ready for ... (1)

Scoldog (875927) | more than 6 years ago | (#22540838)

Problem is, driving a horse and buggy can be pretty violent!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWFG4oEn87E

Re:get ready for ... (2, Interesting)

Enonu (129798) | more than 6 years ago | (#22541164)

Horse and Buggy, hmm, what about a grand theft auto (I know auto doesn't make sense here anymore), set in old western times? Riding with a gang of thieves to take down a stage coach full of gold on fast horses actually sounds pretty fun. The entire skill of quick shooting could be pretty interesting when paired with today's twichy mousers. The wild west in a video game?

All of the old movies could be brought in. The good, the bad, and the ugly. The unforgiven. Sounds awesome.

Re:get ready for ... (1)

ZombieRoboNinja (905329) | more than 5 years ago | (#22541320)

Your point about EA making too many sequels would be a lot more biting if you didn't have to start at 5 because the current owners have ALREADY MADE FOUR OF THEM.

Phew (2, Informative)

mark72005 (1233572) | more than 6 years ago | (#22539804)

I read another article where an EA bigwig was dismayed by EA's consistently low ratings at metacritic and other sites. Seems like a transparent attempt to eliminate competition with their crappy sports games.

Privately owned companies (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22539900)

Stuff like this riles me up and makes me want to say as a gamer I will just support (good) games developed by privately owned companies. But then, who's to say what'll happen to those companies a few years down the road? Ultimately, at the end of the day I think the best solution is to either boycott video games, or stop caring who owns what to a lesser degree.

The lifecycle of the EA (1)

Xelios (822510) | more than 6 years ago | (#22539940)

It infects healthy cells, multiplies like crazy, introduces all kinds of horrible mutations then eventually moves on, leaving dead tissue in its wake. I think in biology it's called that Cancer.

REJECTED (4, Informative)

Zaffo (755234) | more than 6 years ago | (#22539946)

The latest word is that Take-Two Interactive's Board of Directors has rejected EA's offer: http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/080224/20080224005068.html [yahoo.com]

Take-Two's Board of Directors has thoroughly reviewed EA's unsolicited proposal with the assistance of its independent financial and legal advisors and concluded that the proposal is inadequate in multiple respects and not in the best interests of Take-Two's stockholders.

Politely? (1)

Southpaw018 (793465) | more than 6 years ago | (#22539960)

..."politely?" Okay, they may have used polite and diplomatic language, but Take Two told EA to f*ck right the f*ck off, and cram a few sharp pointy sticks in various orifices and organs in the process. Their response goes so far as to call the EA offer irresponsible and (by inference) insulting.

Or could it be because of timing? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22540240)

Could it be they want to consolidate as many competitors as possible before a semi-reasonable person takes over the FTC? Lately, almost every merger, regardless of how ridiculous, in the US has been approved. But come 2009, would that continue?

Re:Or could it be because of timing? (1)

SamuelA1337O (1019988) | more than 6 years ago | (#22540372)

You really think monopolies are a serious problem in video games? There are very few barriers to entry.

Re:Or could it be because of timing? (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 6 years ago | (#22540524)

How many A material games did you see lately that didn't come out of big studios? Making a game today (and I don't mean some Flash-app or ringtone game) is a quite pricy matter. The days when a small team of enthusiasts could slap together a game in their spare time that makes it into the bestseller lists are over.

Sure, making a game has become easier than ever. You don't even have to know a lot about the math behind 3D graphics to create something that looks decent. But making it great (and thus sellable for 60 bucks) is a completely different matter. Or would you buy a game that looks like it's been done a decade ago?

Re:Or could it be because of timing? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#22541302)

Really, the problem is that there are few publishers. That being said, it's still not as much of a problem as many other industries. You've got EA, Vivendi, Sega, Ubisoft, Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, Midway, Take-Two, LucasArts...some others I'm probably forgetting about. It's not like we're down to Coke and Pepsi here. Will it be a problem someday? Yes, because that's just how capitalism rolls...but we're not there yet. There's much more monopolistic industries, like food industries or oil.

What the hell? (0, Redundant)

glitch23 (557124) | more than 6 years ago | (#22540268)

From TFA:

Mr. Riccitiello said his offers timing reflected a desire to integrate Take-Twos operations with E.A.s before the all-important holiday shopping season.

Um, this is February last I checked. What holiday shopping season is being referenced? Valentine's day is over. Christmas (the holiday that is now being relegated to the name "holiday" for idiots who think calling it by its name is offensive) is still 10 months away. Is he referring to Easter?

Re:What the hell? (1)

The End Of Days (1243248) | more than 6 years ago | (#22540378)

Perhaps it's referring to the fact that closing the deal, merging the operations, and getting everything running smoothly isn't an instantaneous process, and if they're going to do it, they'd like to get it done before it interferes with this years Christmas season.

I'm guessing, though.

Am i the only one.. (1)

eZtaR (764650) | more than 6 years ago | (#22540310)

Who read the headline as $28? This concept of B confuses and infuriates me!

Re:Am i the only one.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#22540822)

Yes, you are the only one.

EA ups the offer.. (1)

Snufu (1049644) | more than 6 years ago | (#22540422)

Take Two has politely declined the offer."
Would you consider $2B, a phat crib in the Hollywood hills, a gold-plated NASCAR racer, your choice of ho's, a pimped out fighter jet, a big ol' bag of spliffs, and some def minigames?

Civilization V: Grand Theft War (4, Funny)

Orion Blastar (457579) | more than 5 years ago | (#22541238)

Finally George W. Bush is unlocked as an American leader, and the Fox News World Wonder is available, after it is built you can declare war on any nation with a Weapons of Mass Destruction claim even if they don't have any. It also allows you to remain in power even if your people find out the nation had no WMDs and it is draining your economy as well.

Special units, Dick Cheney unit to form Haliburton corporation to get no-bid oil contracts on any nation you invade. Colin Powell unit to help ease opposition to the war with faked evidence for it. Condeliza Rice unit to get other civilizations to side with you on the war. Bill O'Reilly unit to keep your population happy even if they oppose the war.
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